I feel bad for anyone who sees this film knowing the ending in advance. I was fortunate to see it in the theater on its release, and now I hope that anyone who sees it now as a young person gets to see it without knowing anything about it beforehand. That iconic ending is such a kick in the gut, and really deserves to be experienced that way.
Totally agree - I got to watch it on after school TV as a young kid in the 70's, and it took me a few years to understand it fully - Made me an intellectual sci fi fan for life and a wicked skeptic of any form of religion
@@SpacedCobraIII Oh yeah. I do remember that one. I'm guessing somebody got fired. Or hell, probably the whole advertising department. I mean, cover art is a decision made by more than one person I imagine.
I didn’t know the ending, but I pretty quickly figured out it was Earth. I mean, it’s pretty damn unlikely that apes and humans would evolve pretty much the same on a different planet, not to mention the fact that the apes can speak and read English.
I forgot how much of a good script this was, it's great how it flips back Taylor's misanthropy twice on him. That last speech of Zaius quoting Ceasar is such a mic drop
I don’t get how anyone can apply the word “underrated” to this classic. It was groundbreaking and a huge hit at the time, a rare feat then and almost unheard of now. It immediately spawned four film sequels and a tv series (all of disappointing quality, at least in comparison), multiple books, comics and graphic novels, a filmed remake over 30 years later (meh) and then a reboot film series (mostly pretty good). The original production is both celebrated and iconic. I realize everyone is currently on a downer about modern life and culture so everything once great is somehow not appreciated enough, but good grief can we give it a rest when it’s demonstrably untrue? The only ones not recognizing this greatness are those who don’t know about it and, last I checked, being young, ignorant and foolish was not a sin. It’s the natural order of things. If we are dumb enough to follow youthful ignorance into foolishness, that’s on us. There’s enough falsehood to deal with today as it is.
Unfortunately, Taylor arrived too late to notice that Dark Helmet, Colonel Sanders, and President Scroob climbing out of the nose. If he had, he would've realized that this wasn't Earth, and that wasn't the Statue of Liberty buried on the beach. ...yeah I've watched Spaceballs recently.
Charlton Heston: "There's got to be an answer." Maurice Evans: "Don't look for it, Taylor. You may not like what you find." Tim Russ: "We ain't found shit!"
" The Only danger is if they send us to that terrible Planet of the Apes. Wait a minute, Statue of Liberty... that was our planet! YOU MANIACS! YOU BLEW IT UP! DAMN YOU! DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL! " - Homer Simpson
Great job , Dude !! I'm 54 , so I grew up on these movies ! Matter of fact , I just got Cornelius , Zaius and Gorilla Soldier Mego action figures for myself for Christmas ! I always thought of those scarecrow looking things as a little bit like a crucifixion type warning as well . Thanks for all the hard work , effort and detail you put into these vids !!
Dad took me to see this in the theater in 1968 when I was 8 years old. I was enthralled, even though a lot of it was way over my head. Actually, I was terrified, especially during the cornfield hunt, when the apes are revealed for the first time. The camera zoomed in on the ape on horseback, and I freaked out. Also that first half-hour or so of the film was masterfully done. The suspense it builds is almost unbearable. I was so frightened, and yet it was shot in bright daylight! Those X-shaped "scarecrows" still give me the shivers every time I see this film to this day. They are so damn menacing, and hint at something terrible to come. In the weeks before my father's death in 2005, I thanked him for taking me to see this film, as it had a massive impact on me, an impact that has only increased with every viewing since. One of my top 3 favorite films of all time, and a true masterpiece put together by masters in their respective fields.
10:30 I was a kid when this movie came out, and the make-up was considered leaps and bounds above anything else ever done in a movie before... it was _The Cutting Edge_ in its time.
First,thnx.i listened to this while the Pittsburgh Steelers were slowly fading in another room.i saw this in '68 was in Jr. high.my mom had the novel....I just jumped to the to leading up to the statue of liberty to scene.it was so profound for me at the time .
I still prefer the make up in the original better than the tech of the newer films - this film has real content and acting, something sadly missing from any of the "action" reboots
I was lucky enough to catch the re-releases of all the apes movies at the theater in the 70s, i didnt have to wait years in between the movies and certainly didnt already know the mind-blowing ending of this one, it was a great time to be alive...
A little while ago, I learned that the movie "John Carter" filmed some of the Mars exteriors in the same locations as some of the Forbidden Zone exteriors in "Planet of the Apes." Around the same time, I learned that Charlton Heston's real name was John Charles Carter. So how's this for a trippy bit of synchronicity? An actor originally named John Carter played a character whose last name was Taylor in the same locations where, some forty-five-odd years later, an actor whose first name is Taylor played a character named John Carter.
I would love to see you do the rest of the movies in the series. While the budgets were slashed for each one, I like them all, as they all serve to tell an overall story. The fact that the last movie's ending is left up to interpretation is pretty smart. Did Taylor's landing cause history to change, or was it all going to happen anyway?
Hopefully trolling. On the other hand, it's hard to look at that scene without wondering why it was moved or why somebody built that cliff because that terrain is _all_ wrong.
@@boobah5643 I assume it isn't intact. That the bombs shattered the statue, and this part sits on the coast of some remnant of the New York/New Jersey coast.
@@lynngreen7978 But the NY/NJ coast looks nothing like this - and it won't look like this at the time in the future the movie happens. The only reason the upper part of the statue is upright and intact in such an environment, would be that somebody repaired it. How would it stay intact while falling from a considerable height, especially the outstretched arm with the torch? They transported it to a different place far away from New York (the beach/cliff shown in the movie is near Malibu, California!), and intentionally placed it that way as a memento for... whom exactly? Is that really what the last survivors of a nuclear apocalypse would spend time and effort on, instead of just trying to get out of the contaminated New York area as quickly as possible? How did they not drop dead from radiation sickness while doing that? If the statue is standing in its original location in the movie, the sea level is much higher than it is now, at least 175 to 200 ft. Liberty Island is entirely submerged, along with the base and lower half of the statue, the coastline is much farther west, possibly almost in eastern Pennsylvania. Most of New Jersey and all of NYC would be under water with only the remaining ruins of skyscrapers sticking out. The statue would be peaking out of the ocean, miles away from the coast, not be sticking out of a sandy beach next to a cliff. Stuff like this has always been why I don't really like "Planet Of The Apes" and can't get into it as a serious movie. If you slightly poke at almost anything in the movie, it falls apart immediately. Nothing makes sense, nobody thought any of this through, even for a minute during any of the rewrites. The "science" of it is laughable. And I'm not going to "switch off my brain and enjoy the ride" when I watch a movie that wants to teach me "important lessons" about humanity, civil rights, racism, the nature of good and evil, or rationality versus impulsivity. They want to lecture me on what a horrible monster I am deep inside as a member of the human species, but can't even get the most basic things right? That - and Charlton Heston who is impossible to take seriously with his ridiculous snarling and hammy self-important acting. Not to mention that he is one of the most instantaneously unlikeable human beings to ever appear in a movie. I've said this before and I'll say it again: "Planet Of The Apes" was a success because it has cool visuals and the amazing ape makeups, not because it has anything "important" to say. If the apes didn't look impressive and the Arizona landscapes weren't filmed as beautifully, it would be as well-regarded as something like "Yor, Hunter From The Future". Bad movie night fodder.
I first saw this film as an 8 year old in 1973, I grasped the ending scene however I was far to young to understand the nuances of the storyline ... your analysis of this film is %100 brilliant.
An absolute masterpiece. It's really a pity that the second instalment was not up to the first's standards. Each subsequent part of the pentalogy leaves something to be desired and looks trivial compared to the depth of the original. Nevertheless, the 4 other parts are not actually bad: they just pale in comparison and are never at the same philosophical level.
I never understand how people say the second one was poor. Infact, it is the best one: It had an amazingky intelligent story. (SFX) was visually stunning. The mutants was just a brilliant inclusion, amazing make-up FX. The ending was heartbreaking in that our heroes all die, very few films do that. Conquest was the worst then Battle and then Escape.
@@caitlinthomas2273 It's the second best, really. The best? Hmmm... Although the ideas in the plot are brilliant at face value, the acting leaves to be desired. I'm not very fond of the mutants' look either. Something's missing to make this a fluent story. The fact that Heston didn't want to return imposed major changes to the story, and it shows. As you say, few films dare to kill all (well, except 2) of their heroes. On the other hand, as a stand-alone movie, it makes for a very depressing movie! As I said, the second best. But to each his/her own!
You know what, you do make a good point. Why isn't the Eiffel Tower finished? They've had that metal skeleton up for over a century. I think it's about time they started pouring the concrete.
I think Dr Zaius's actions in this movie involve something more. He's not dumb, he doesn't think that apes are inherently better than humans. I think he realizes that apes can and would evolve into the same kind of aggressive beings as humans were. He has to hold them back from evolving further because they will evolve to the same ends as humans if they continue to evolve. I wouldn't call him 'wrong' in not believing Taylor came from space. Even if Zaius knew humans once had rockets, it's expecting one heck of a leap of logic to think he'd figure out that human space travel led to time dilation effects where some humans landed back on Earth after going forward in time thousands of years. If I was Zaius it'd be much more likely for me to believe that somewhere out there is a human base, where a tribe of old school humans survived and lived all this time. In my opinion Zaius thinks Taylor is an ignorant descendant of original man. I bet Zauis thinks Taylor has only heard good stories about human life back in the day. That would be why at the end he tells Taylor that he might not like what he finds. He thinks Taylor will find out the truth of humanity. The irony is that Taylor already knew the truth. The shock to Taylor is that he was right to feel that way about people. Right at the time Taylor finally had come around to a point in his life where he'd love to be around people again, he is slapped in the face with the reminder of why he had such a negative view of people in the first place. There is nothing quite so bitter as being right and realizing that all that it means is you are completely and totally screwed.
@@treestandsafety3996 That's a tough one for me to buy. Mainly because it assumes Dr Z has access to a lot of scientific information that we don't see hints of anywhere in the movie. Remember that Taylor's crew was in some kind of suspended animation to make that trip. Dr Z knows about things like time dilation and suspended animation? Taylor didn't simply fly out to space for a while and fly back home. Without some information to explain how it's possible, why would Dr Z think Taylor somehow travelled through time into his future?
@@flibber123 I wouldn't say Dr Z knew or belived all that, but Taylor spoke English, was human and was ignorant of what lay in the forbidden zone..Z thought his story was protecting his talking human tribe, not that he was from another planet. This story, resonates with me more the older I get. Lets hope a Neanderthal Astronaut, waking up from suspended animation gets treated better...!
@@treestandsafety3996 I don't put much stock in the fact they all spoke English. I figured that was just necessary for the movie to get made. Who is going to make a movie, in the '60s, where the apes spoke some language the required subtitles? Imagine all the reading that would require in this movie. I agree that Dr Z thought Taylor was from that planet, it's the only thing that makes sense. But I don't think Dr Z understood what that meant. Taylor was not just from that planet, he was from that planet's past.
This movie horrified my dreams as child in the 70s. It was the first movie that showed how a nuclear war could end with all of humanity as its victims.
New sub, great vid! I grew up with Planet of the Apes, there's no overstating the mania for it in the early 70's. Planet of the Apes everything was everywhere. I first saw the short-lived TV Series and then later the film on HBO.
I grew up in the 70s, too. And yes, not only the films, but the 2 tv series, one that was live action and the other the animated version. I also remember there was a board game and the me go action figures...Ah, memories.....
As a kid who grew up in the 70's, I remember Kung-Fu, then Kolchek: The Night Stalker, then the Planet of the Apes TV show followed by the Six Million Dollar Man on Friday night's.. That had to be one time of my life I was glued to the TV all night.
A lot of the best villains and bad guys, at least for me, are the ones who have a point in thei agenda. Something you, the main character, or both on a fundamental level would aggree with but which then divides you when it comes to the way they want to realize it..
I always get weirded out when the production seems to think I should be sympathetic to the villain's aim when it's just abominable. Most often I see it with various forms of "I don't like the world, so I should ruin it for everyone else, too."
@@Wildbarley Assuming you mean the character from _FFXIV,_ his first goal was freeing his god. The destruction was only a means to that end. Everything else was, to my mind, rationalization.
@@boobah5643 His goal was to save his world. His "god" was a construct of his own summoning. Now it did warp his mind when it tempered him though. That is what corrupted his intent into villainy. And it was all by design. His fall was engineered and purposeful by another.
@@Wildbarley Disagree. He convinced himself that that was his goal, yes, but it's no coincidence that his plan succeeded in freeing his god while leaving the world permanently sundered, thanks to the disaster of the 13th. And manipulated by whom? The Endsinger? Venat? Lahabrea? Elidibus? I just don't see a case for any of them (although if I had to pick one, it'd be one of the latter two. We'll see how the rest of Pandemonium goes.)
Nice Video. I relly enjoy your insight on the Movie as an POTA Fan any new Insight is good Insight. Beware of the Beast Man and Ape shall Never Kill Ape !!
Thank you for your review of this classic. I had a chance to read the book after I watched the movie.Frankly, I was surprised by the ending in the book. The ending in the movie made more of a impact on me.
A true classic in every sense of the word and a very good breakdown here. However, that hammy laughing at the tiny flag totally broke the `Immersion`, so to speak. It reminds be of the bad guy/head honcho in every terrible kung fu movie. I sometimes wonder if it inspired Mike Myers, he had bad kung fu movies AND a superb cameo from Charlton Heston in Waynes World 2.
i never thought of zais as a villian. an antagonist to be sure, but hes only trying to defend the society and values of which all ape kind is a part. he knows that human society obviously went awry and fears it happening to his own society. he views taylor and what he represents as an existential threat to apekinds life.
Plz advise me on these doubts, * How did the humans who survived with Caesar become mute? Lost the power to talk? * Why dint the Mutants try to save the people in the surface and bring them to the underworld? * Apart from Caesar or his descendants. How did other apes start to speak? * The Mutants could have used their mind control over the attacking apes. * The Mutants could have helped Taylor to find the spacecraft and return to the past to warn and save mankind. Instead they wanted to kill Taylor?
In the planning stages the relationship between Taylor (Thomas) and Dr. Zaius was more cordial but still adversarial as shown in the 1966 studio pitch/makeup test ruclips.net/video/a9cufbVNjr8/видео.html It looks like it was following the novel more than the movie ultimately did.
Neither of the two movie reboots understood any of the subtleties the original series had woven into their stories. On the other hand, the 1974 TV series was pretty good (and also somewhat of a reboot, though being so close to the originals and even using all the same costumes and starring Roddy McDowall, it was kind of more of the same than anything else). Also, it's got Mark Lenard (Spock's dad) as the main gorilla villain (but yet another different actor for Doctor Zaius...just couldn't keep that same guy). I haven't yet seen the cartoon, but since it also came out around that time, I expect it'll be a similar experience.
I quite liked the tim burton one. it was a lot of popcorn action but it still put in meaning and themes. Mostly just the ending made no sense, because they were trying to be clever and clearly were not. But yeah the new movies seem to be nothing but completely-demonstrably-untrue sentiment about how awful mankind is and how we do all these horrible things to ourselves. Poppycock. We create dangerous things because they save millions of lives, and they we use those things responsibly.
@@KairuHakubi The ending of the Tim Burton re-make was intended to be explained in the sequel, but that never happened. That ending resembles the ending of the original novel, but the novel had built up properly to it.
This film is an undisputed classic. While I enjoy some of the sequels, I sometimes wish they had never been made. Before the sequels were made, the end of this first film has a very different connotation; it implies that the humans simply started world war 3, and destroyed themselves. The apes then, are simply the next species to come along and evolved, as though the humans blew their shot, and nature gave the next species a chance to evolve. I mean I kind of like the sequels, but taken in isolation, the implied message of the first film is far more profound.
"This is your coming century! They will eat them Mandus, they will make pigs of you all and they will bury their snouts into your ribs and they will eat. your. hearts!"- Amnesia: A Machine for Pigs
Loved that - although the comment at the end about a “plot hole” is meant as a joke - right? There is no plot hole. They landed on Earth exactly as programmed except it’s 2,000 years in the future - Ape City is located where NYC was in fact. Taylor actually realises he’s home and he says so. That’s why he’s so distraught. The Planet of the Apes is Earth which after millennia was taken over my evolved apes when mankind pretty much destroyed everything.
Any idea why at the beginning of the movie, Charlton Heston's character and the other men were clean-shaven, but then when they woke up at the planet, they had beards? No beard growth the first 700 years but then it started?
I just wonder what the point of their journey even was... They were never going to report anything back, and even if they did, it probably would have been more efficient to wait for proper FTL to get invented... Or just send enough people to start a proper independent colony!
Given the unlikeliness of FTL (it's more accurately the speed of data than the speed of light), and the fall of human civilization, that would've meant no extrasolar exploration at all.
Lots of people in the 60s thought the Cold War would heat up and end in nuclear Armageddon. This thinking could lead to projects like the one in the movie, a one way trip to the future on a far off world to possibly colonize. Although having only one woman in the crew seems carrying on the human race was not the intent.
@@russellharrell2747 Maybe a cold war-style publicity stunt? Show your superiority by sending out what amounts to a suicide mission in order to get to say "We did it first!" Just one that they went all-in on and decided "We're going to claim so many firsts that they are going to be catching up for centuries!"
(32:50) Wait. I always thought that somehow their spacecraft ended up back on Earth, not another planet. I never heard anyone say otherwise. So, is this a joke? It is a bit late for me. WAY past my bedtime. 😜
I think it was a matter of someone not paying enough attention to the script. Did you ever see that movie the 'Ghosts of Mars'? If you did then you likely paid attention and knew what was happening at the very end. I watched it in the theater and there were two other people watching it. When the movie ended one of the two asked me "Who were they fighting" and I was surprised that it wasn't clear enough for her to understand when it had already been made clear what the antagonists' capabilities were. Everything we had heard and seen up to that point had lead us to understand what was going on and it should have been even more clear than what had happened in Planet of the Apes. Taylor says that he's returned home, to the planet he left, yet in that movie I think we were supposed to infer that their ship arrived at its destination, their stasis/hibernation chambers didn't open like they were supposed to and the ship either returned home on autopilot or did a slingshot (either on purpose or accident) and that's how they got back to Earth. I know in the second sequel they explained this as the ship went through a temporal wormhole and came out the other side headed right back to Earth, but I think they were just retconning in order to milk another movie out of the franchise. - That's my take on it.
@@blazerocker1734 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I always thought, through multiple viewings, mind you, that it turns out that they actually ended up back on Earth somehow. There were (and still are, I suppose) movies/shows that did a twist without not really thinking through the mechanics of how it would actually work out. But the way that plot hole title card at the end of the video is worded it sounds like a joke that is being multiple levels of meta. Like, it's making fun of people who take it all too seriously. Like, really? Someone is actually wondering how they _transported_ the statue _to_ the PotA rather than wondering how the astronauts ended up _back_ on Earth? I mean, I wouldn't put it past Chuck to go to that level of humor. I don't know. It was late when I wrote that comment and I just woke up right now, so maybe I just need to not watch videos or comment when I'm not fully online, so to speak. 😉
9:00 You know that's really saying something about practical effects that also shows that sometimes computers make us lazy & we'll end up paying for that laziness. Because this classic movie was made decades ago & no doubt probably done something similar with the live action stage play original are STILL better than that god awful cgi-crap fest Cats movie. Just prove that all the latest & fancy tech in the world will never be a good substitute for genuine effort.
P.S.: What about that final "plot hole" mentioned? Why it's never explained how the Statue of Liberty was transported to the Planet of the Apes? If that's some kind of a tongue-in-cheek remark, it doesn't look that way. Anyway, I'm sure there are a few morons here and there who can't make heads or tails out of the story and will ask such a stupid question.
Watched this a few times, but something just struck me: Early in the review, you make a point to hammer home that Taylor is a man of pure realism, rationality, only what is in front of you and deal with it through rigorous application of intelligence and logic. And then, at the end of the film, his final line, as the Background video states, is literally cursing. Literally calling on God to damn to Hell the people responsible for destroying humanity. The man of pure reason has nothing left but faith. . . and even that is no solace. Because nothing, not man, not his God, and not God's damnation matters anymore. Not super religious myself, just a nice final exclamation point on the utter destruction of the man Taylor was over the course of the film. And I don't mean to imply that reason and faith cannot coexist, just that Taylor at the start of the film seems very much like someone who'd pooh-pooh any kind of religion, but by the end, all he can do is hope that someone, somewhere, somehow, is paying for what's happened, even if it won't make a damn bit of difference.
The intro ruins the "surprise ending" of the movie for me. Being that far in the future, and the heavy handed "humanity self destructs" monolog, and I'd already seen Twilight Zone, I was only wondering, "Are they going to do a time loop and go the cheesy Adam & Eve route?" I'd have been more surprised if they weren't on Earth. If fact I find it odd that Taylor didn't guess the ending immediately since they aren't far enough in the future for the constellations to have changed significantly, but this is Movie Sci-Fi so you just have to roll your eyes and accept what you're presented with. They should have have pumped up the oxygen on the planet and had the astronauts complain that their eyes, noses and throats were burning. I'd have had glittering debris in orbit blocking a clear view of the stars and incidentally responsible for their crash. A slight filter on the sky to shift the hue just slightly. I'd have had malfunctions in all their equipment so their chronometer was stopped at the given date, but it wasn't the final date. Just saying there are a lot of little things you can do to throw people off that this is Earth.
It is a hard thing to balance. Twist tend to work better when you do plant information about the twist though the story, without revealing the twist. But if you give too much, then you give it all away. This is not necessarily bad either. Since it can make the audience feel smart that they figured it out. But you still need to keep it on a level where the audience feel smart, of course in that case. That it was not obvious. If you do not plant these hints, then the twist feels like it came out of no ware, in a bad sense. That the writers just added it at the last moment. It does not connect. This I think is the main reason why writing a good twist is so hard. You can not give too much, or you give it away. But you must have some build-up, or you will feel cheated. I think the twist in this movie works worse today, not only due to it simply so well known in popular media. But also the audience today is a bit more sophisticated. We are more used to this narrative plot device. We on a whole know science better, especially if we like science fiction movies. So this would not work on most today, I think. While in the past people who figured out the twist would likely feel they were smart while others would be more likely to fall for it.
@@Cythil Frankly I don't think the writer cared since he claims to be a "black list" writer. Invariably those claiming to be on the mythical commie black list are eager to sacrifice story to push ideology. The only real black list in Hollywood was printed in the Writer's Guild newsletter, and you got on that list for not being a commie.
@@Cythil Pretty much. You have to consider it from the perspective of someone back then. If you look at the Twilight Zone, speaking of which, there's a lot of "this alien planet has humans on it". Star Trek TOS has a few examples of that as well. It wasn't uncommon back then. So, safe to assume audiences were accepting of this being an alien world for the most part.
@@gallendugall8913 Of course, you care if you are a storyteller. Even if you have a motive. A storyteller that can not tell an engaging story won't manage to engage the audience. And no matter if your goal is to teach, or make money, or some other goal, not engaging your audience will be a failure. Or in short. If people do not sit down and watch your movie. Then how will you get paid, or able to impart your message?
@@Blues_Light Yep. Common trope back then. And in many ways the kind of visual effect that planet of the apes had would help to move away from this with better makeup. And today we not only have animatronics and advanced puppeteering at our disposal. But CGI. Not to mention the huge budgets we have for even a TV series. So it not only that people are more aware of the science. But the medium itself have gone more towards an alien look.
This movie gave us an unrealistic expectation of how wonderfully enbeardened the astronauts of the 70s would be. Baffling he ditches it later on a planet with no styptic pencils. I literally just now realized how nobody in the movie questions people ostensibly from separate planets speak the same language.. oy, can't resist throwing in some reprehensible modern politics, can ya. Uh.. I never got the impression he wanted Nova for "human companionship." Yknow, that requires the ability to speak.. he had much more of that 'basic human need to bond with one of their own kind' with Zira.
In the novel the astronaut learns the ape language over several months. There just isn't time in a film to feature something like that. Additionally, the apes in the novel (as far as I can remember) only turn openly hostile to the astronaut when he and a human woman produce a pregnancy [I'm open to correction by someone on that if I'm wrong]. In the film there is no chance that Taylor would be allowed enough time, or even the possibility, of learning their language.
I feel bad for anyone who sees this film knowing the ending in advance. I was fortunate to see it in the theater on its release, and now I hope that anyone who sees it now as a young person gets to see it without knowing anything about it beforehand. That iconic ending is such a kick in the gut, and really deserves to be experienced that way.
Totally agree - I got to watch it on after school TV as a young kid in the 70's, and it took me a few years to understand it fully - Made me an intellectual sci fi fan for life and a wicked skeptic of any form of religion
Unfortunately they were all too happy to spoil the ending on the movie's cover during the VHS and DVD era. =/
@@SpacedCobraIII Oh yeah. I do remember that one. I'm guessing somebody got fired. Or hell, probably the whole advertising department. I mean, cover art is a decision made by more than one person I imagine.
@@SpacedCobraIII Just tell them the iconic image is actually just _Spaceball One,_ not an indication that it was Earth all along.
I didn’t know the ending, but I pretty quickly figured out it was Earth. I mean, it’s pretty damn unlikely that apes and humans would evolve pretty much the same on a different planet, not to mention the fact that the apes can speak and read English.
I forgot how much of a good script this was, it's great how it flips back Taylor's misanthropy twice on him.
That last speech of Zaius quoting Ceasar is such a mic drop
Maurice Evans was a classical Shakespearian actor. He always quote Shakespeare on Bewitched.
@@DarthSideous63 God how I miss that show.
I totally agree. Wilson's rewrite of Sterling's first 2 drafts is a masterstroke of genius. Everything is word perfect.
This movie is so ridiculously underrated for modern audiences.
But with cheesy sequels.
Agreed, theres so much to dig into this movie, its a true classic.
It was always a joke to me growing up, but now I can recognize it has value.
I remember seeing this on tv in 1971 probably as a kid. Loved it then love it now
Like with the space agencies modern CGI still there yet.
I don’t get how anyone can apply the word “underrated” to this classic. It was groundbreaking and a huge hit at the time, a rare feat then and almost unheard of now. It immediately spawned four film sequels and a tv series (all of disappointing quality, at least in comparison), multiple books, comics and graphic novels, a filmed remake over 30 years later (meh) and then a reboot film series (mostly pretty good). The original production is both celebrated and iconic.
I realize everyone is currently on a downer about modern life and culture so everything once great is somehow not appreciated enough, but good grief can we give it a rest when it’s demonstrably untrue? The only ones not recognizing this greatness are those who don’t know about it and, last I checked, being young, ignorant and foolish was not a sin. It’s the natural order of things. If we are dumb enough to follow youthful ignorance into foolishness, that’s on us. There’s enough falsehood to deal with today as it is.
Unfortunately, Taylor arrived too late to notice that Dark Helmet, Colonel Sanders, and President Scroob climbing out of the nose. If he had, he would've realized that this wasn't Earth, and that wasn't the Statue of Liberty buried on the beach.
...yeah I've watched Spaceballs recently.
Oh Shit. There goes the Planet.
Charlton Heston: "There's got to be an answer."
Maurice Evans: "Don't look for it, Taylor. You may not like what you find."
Tim Russ: "We ain't found shit!"
" The Only danger is if they send us to that terrible Planet of the Apes. Wait a minute, Statue of Liberty... that was our planet! YOU MANIACS! YOU BLEW IT UP! DAMN YOU! DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL! "
- Homer Simpson
"Oh my God, I was wrong, it was Earth all along. You've finally made a monkey out of me!"
-Troy McClure
*belches* (passes out) - Barney Gumbel
@@BleydTorvall I hate every ape I see, from chimpanA to chimpanzee.
The whole Planet of the Apes musical was a brilliant bit with clever lyrics.
I love you, Dr. Zaus
"Ha haaaa!" - Nelson
"Turn around, bright eyes! Every now and then you fall apart." Congratulations and DAMN YOU TO HELL.
This really was one of your best essays yet.
Throughout the movie, you see countryside that is obviously California, then at the end, you find out you're in New York!
The nuclear war changed everything
Great job , Dude !! I'm 54 , so I grew up on these movies ! Matter of fact , I just got Cornelius , Zaius and Gorilla Soldier Mego action figures for myself for Christmas ! I always thought of those scarecrow looking things as a little bit like a crucifixion type warning as well . Thanks for all the hard work , effort and detail you put into these vids !!
Dad took me to see this in the theater in 1968 when I was 8 years old. I was enthralled, even though a lot of it was way over my head. Actually, I was terrified, especially during the cornfield hunt, when the apes are revealed for the first time. The camera zoomed in on the ape on horseback, and I freaked out. Also that first half-hour or so of the film was masterfully done. The suspense it builds is almost unbearable. I was so frightened, and yet it was shot in bright daylight! Those X-shaped "scarecrows" still give me the shivers every time I see this film to this day. They are so damn menacing, and hint at something terrible to come. In the weeks before my father's death in 2005, I thanked him for taking me to see this film, as it had a massive impact on me, an impact that has only increased with every viewing since. One of my top 3 favorite films of all time, and a true masterpiece put together by masters in their respective fields.
Perfectly put!
10:30 I was a kid when this movie came out, and the make-up was considered leaps and bounds above anything else ever done in a movie before... it was _The Cutting Edge_ in its time.
First,thnx.i listened to this while the Pittsburgh Steelers were slowly fading in another room.i saw this in '68 was in Jr. high.my mom had the novel....I just jumped to the to leading up to the statue of liberty to scene.it was so profound for me at the time .
I still prefer the make up in the original better than the tech of the newer films - this film has real content and acting, something sadly missing from any of the "action" reboots
I was lucky enough to catch the re-releases of all the apes movies at the theater in the 70s, i didnt have to wait years in between the movies and certainly didnt already know the mind-blowing ending of this one, it was a great time to be alive...
A little while ago, I learned that the movie "John Carter" filmed some of the Mars exteriors in the same locations as some of the Forbidden Zone exteriors in "Planet of the Apes." Around the same time, I learned that Charlton Heston's real name was John Charles Carter. So how's this for a trippy bit of synchronicity?
An actor originally named John Carter played a character whose last name was Taylor in the same locations where, some forty-five-odd years later, an actor whose first name is Taylor played a character named John Carter.
That is some trippy synchronicity for sure!
It's rather Kitschy actually, along the lines of the Abe Lincoln/John Kennedy coincidences.
@@MrMarquestor I see what you did there. 😁👍
I would love to see you do the rest of the movies in the series. While the budgets were slashed for each one, I like them all, as they all serve to tell an overall story. The fact that the last movie's ending is left up to interpretation is pretty smart. Did Taylor's landing cause history to change, or was it all going to happen anyway?
All of the five ape films are a time loop
I agree @John Linde I loved all 5 of them. Still one of my favorite top movie franchises.
This, Logans Run and Godzilla were my childhood.
I was going to make a Total Eclipse of the Heart joke, but Chuck beat me to it.
Kinda hard to say “I love you Dr. Zaius!” after the ending monologue.
"I hate every ape I see,
From Chimpan-A to Chimpan-Zee!.."
You'll never make a monkey out of mee
[stares at end card in disbelief]
Hopefully trolling.
On the other hand, it's hard to look at that scene without wondering why it was moved or why somebody built that cliff because that terrain is _all_ wrong.
@@boobah5643 I assume it isn't intact. That the bombs shattered the statue, and this part sits on the coast of some remnant of the New York/New Jersey coast.
@@lynngreen7978 But the NY/NJ coast looks nothing like this - and it won't look like this at the time in the future the movie happens. The only reason the upper part of the statue is upright and intact in such an environment, would be that somebody repaired it. How would it stay intact while falling from a considerable height, especially the outstretched arm with the torch? They transported it to a different place far away from New York (the beach/cliff shown in the movie is near Malibu, California!), and intentionally placed it that way as a memento for... whom exactly? Is that really what the last survivors of a nuclear apocalypse would spend time and effort on, instead of just trying to get out of the contaminated New York area as quickly as possible? How did they not drop dead from radiation sickness while doing that?
If the statue is standing in its original location in the movie, the sea level is much higher than it is now, at least 175 to 200 ft. Liberty Island is entirely submerged, along with the base and lower half of the statue, the coastline is much farther west, possibly almost in eastern Pennsylvania. Most of New Jersey and all of NYC would be under water with only the remaining ruins of skyscrapers sticking out. The statue would be peaking out of the ocean, miles away from the coast, not be sticking out of a sandy beach next to a cliff.
Stuff like this has always been why I don't really like "Planet Of The Apes" and can't get into it as a serious movie. If you slightly poke at almost anything in the movie, it falls apart immediately. Nothing makes sense, nobody thought any of this through, even for a minute during any of the rewrites. The "science" of it is laughable. And I'm not going to "switch off my brain and enjoy the ride" when I watch a movie that wants to teach me "important lessons" about humanity, civil rights, racism, the nature of good and evil, or rationality versus impulsivity. They want to lecture me on what a horrible monster I am deep inside as a member of the human species, but can't even get the most basic things right?
That - and Charlton Heston who is impossible to take seriously with his ridiculous snarling and hammy self-important acting. Not to mention that he is one of the most instantaneously unlikeable human beings to ever appear in a movie.
I've said this before and I'll say it again: "Planet Of The Apes" was a success because it has cool visuals and the amazing ape makeups, not because it has anything "important" to say. If the apes didn't look impressive and the Arizona landscapes weren't filmed as beautifully, it would be as well-regarded as something like "Yor, Hunter From The Future". Bad movie night fodder.
The greatest anti-war movie ever made....as an 80s teen, this was always on TV on lazy afternoons.
wut?
I first saw this film as an 8 year old in 1973, I grasped the ending scene however I was far to young to understand the nuances of the storyline ... your analysis of this film is %100 brilliant.
They should know exactly what planet they are on the first time they look up at the sky at night. (Or maybe even during the day)
Big Dipper, man in the moon, etc. You are correct.
The guy that wrote Planet of the Apes also wrote Bridge Over the River Kwai.
An absolute masterpiece. It's really a pity that the second instalment was not up to the first's standards. Each subsequent part of the pentalogy leaves something to be desired and looks trivial compared to the depth of the original. Nevertheless, the 4 other parts are not actually bad: they just pale in comparison and are never at the same philosophical level.
I never understand how people say the second one was poor. Infact, it is the best one: It had an amazingky intelligent story. (SFX) was visually stunning. The mutants was just a brilliant inclusion, amazing make-up FX. The ending was heartbreaking in that our heroes all die, very few films do that. Conquest was the worst then Battle and then Escape.
@@caitlinthomas2273 It's the second best, really. The best? Hmmm... Although the ideas in the plot are brilliant at face value, the acting leaves to be desired. I'm not very fond of the mutants' look either. Something's missing to make this a fluent story. The fact that Heston didn't want to return imposed major changes to the story, and it shows. As you say, few films dare to kill all (well, except 2) of their heroes. On the other hand, as a stand-alone movie, it makes for a very depressing movie! As I said, the second best. But to each his/her own!
Beginning at 16:10 - Total Eclipse of the Heart. I see you RUclipsr. Nice one.
You know what, you do make a good point. Why isn't the Eiffel Tower finished? They've had that metal skeleton up for over a century. I think it's about time they started pouring the concrete.
But who would pay for it?
@@Future_Vantas germany, who else?
If they had really thought about it they could have made it part of the Brexit deal
I think Dr Zaius's actions in this movie involve something more. He's not dumb, he doesn't think that apes are inherently better than humans. I think he realizes that apes can and would evolve into the same kind of aggressive beings as humans were. He has to hold them back from evolving further because they will evolve to the same ends as humans if they continue to evolve. I wouldn't call him 'wrong' in not believing Taylor came from space. Even if Zaius knew humans once had rockets, it's expecting one heck of a leap of logic to think he'd figure out that human space travel led to time dilation effects where some humans landed back on Earth after going forward in time thousands of years. If I was Zaius it'd be much more likely for me to believe that somewhere out there is a human base, where a tribe of old school humans survived and lived all this time. In my opinion Zaius thinks Taylor is an ignorant descendant of original man. I bet Zauis thinks Taylor has only heard good stories about human life back in the day. That would be why at the end he tells Taylor that he might not like what he finds. He thinks Taylor will find out the truth of humanity. The irony is that Taylor already knew the truth. The shock to Taylor is that he was right to feel that way about people. Right at the time Taylor finally had come around to a point in his life where he'd love to be around people again, he is slapped in the face with the reminder of why he had such a negative view of people in the first place. There is nothing quite so bitter as being right and realizing that all that it means is you are completely and totally screwed.
It could be construed that Dr Z knew Taylor was home, all along...Taylor was ignorant and indenial of that, all along..
The trick is in not believing that _until_ the moment we die. It's the only trick left in town, and beats non-existence for a short while.
@@treestandsafety3996 That's a tough one for me to buy. Mainly because it assumes Dr Z has access to a lot of scientific information that we don't see hints of anywhere in the movie. Remember that Taylor's crew was in some kind of suspended animation to make that trip. Dr Z knows about things like time dilation and suspended animation? Taylor didn't simply fly out to space for a while and fly back home. Without some information to explain how it's possible, why would Dr Z think Taylor somehow travelled through time into his future?
@@flibber123 I wouldn't say Dr Z knew or belived all that, but Taylor spoke English, was human and was ignorant of what lay in the forbidden zone..Z thought his story was protecting his talking human tribe, not that he was from another planet.
This story, resonates with me more the older I get. Lets hope a Neanderthal Astronaut, waking up from suspended animation gets treated better...!
@@treestandsafety3996 I don't put much stock in the fact they all spoke English. I figured that was just necessary for the movie to get made. Who is going to make a movie, in the '60s, where the apes spoke some language the required subtitles? Imagine all the reading that would require in this movie. I agree that Dr Z thought Taylor was from that planet, it's the only thing that makes sense. But I don't think Dr Z understood what that meant. Taylor was not just from that planet, he was from that planet's past.
This movie horrified my dreams as child in the 70s. It was the first movie that showed how a nuclear war could end with all of humanity as its victims.
This movie has ape sequels so far...
New sub, great vid! I grew up with Planet of the Apes, there's no overstating the mania for it in the early 70's. Planet of the Apes everything was everywhere. I first saw the short-lived TV Series and then later the film on HBO.
I grew up in the 70s, too. And yes, not only the films, but the 2 tv series, one that was live action and the other the animated version. I also remember there was a board game and the me go action figures...Ah, memories.....
As a kid who grew up in the 70's, I remember Kung-Fu, then Kolchek: The Night Stalker, then the Planet of the Apes TV show followed by the Six Million Dollar Man on Friday night's.. That had to be one time of my life I was glued to the TV all night.
@@mikepastor.k6233 Kolchak: The Night Stalker
A lot of the best villains and bad guys, at least for me, are the ones who have a point in thei agenda. Something you, the main character, or both on a fundamental level would aggree with but which then divides you when it comes to the way they want to realize it..
I always get weirded out when the production seems to think I should be sympathetic to the villain's aim when it's just abominable.
Most often I see it with various forms of "I don't like the world, so I should ruin it for everyone else, too."
Sounds like Emet-Selch in a nutshell.
@@Wildbarley Assuming you mean the character from _FFXIV,_ his first goal was freeing his god. The destruction was only a means to that end. Everything else was, to my mind, rationalization.
@@boobah5643 His goal was to save his world. His "god" was a construct of his own summoning. Now it did warp his mind when it tempered him though. That is what corrupted his intent into villainy.
And it was all by design. His fall was engineered and purposeful by another.
@@Wildbarley Disagree. He convinced himself that that was his goal, yes, but it's no coincidence that his plan succeeded in freeing his god while leaving the world permanently sundered, thanks to the disaster of the 13th.
And manipulated by whom? The Endsinger? Venat? Lahabrea? Elidibus? I just don't see a case for any of them (although if I had to pick one, it'd be one of the latter two. We'll see how the rest of Pandemonium goes.)
I'm loving this new direction for the Christmas Day specials
I watched the one you posted earlier and then went to look for a timeline video on the movies. Then came back and saw this posted. Woot. New lore day!
Here's a hot take....I actually liked the Tim Burton version.
A kangaroo court, but with orangutans...
So...
An orangaroo court.
You made me want to see this movie again
This is a wonderful description of the movie. Some of this I haven’t thought about in decades.
Isn't our planet the planet of the apes anyway considering were technically apes?
Good stuff, thanks for the Christmas present.
My dad took me to see this in the theater
I hate to say it, but Heston's overwrought performance kind of ruins the movie for me. He really does make it the part Troy McClure was born to play.
Having seen this movie when I was a kid in 70s I thought this was a very good movie!
Love the examination of this movie by the narrator! Well thought out!
Nice Video. I relly enjoy your insight on the Movie as an POTA Fan any new Insight is good Insight. Beware of the Beast Man and Ape shall Never Kill Ape !!
This is a different analysis of character and story of the movie. Good job.
nice Bonnie Tyler reference there 🎶
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Wonderful video sfdebris, I love the original planet of the apes is awesome. Great stuff!
I remember seeing the preview exactly one time......probably the week before it opened....& I was at the movie theater that following Saturday.
Really makes you want to rewatch Planet of the Apes IV...said no man or ape ever.
Thank you for your review of this classic. I had a chance to read the book after I watched the movie.Frankly, I was surprised by the ending in the book. The ending in the movie made more of a impact on me.
Thanks for all the background info
Beware of authoritative figures calling themselves "Doctor."
I hope you cover the rest of the franchise.
Hot damn that ending, bravo Mr. Debris, bravo.
i wish i could like this twice just because of 16:08
“USS Gus Grissom”! 😬😬😬😅😂🤣
"Yea!" ("Sharpe").
Rediscovering this gem makes me appreciate how story is about sociality ruled by harsh religious zealots and somehow all their actions are justified.
The gorillas are supposed to be the working-class, the ones who are forced to do all of the menial work and being the cannon fodder in the military.
Brilliant.
A true classic in every sense of the word and a very good breakdown here. However, that hammy laughing at the tiny flag totally broke the `Immersion`, so to speak. It reminds be of the bad guy/head honcho in every terrible kung fu movie. I sometimes wonder if it inspired Mike Myers, he had bad kung fu movies AND a superb cameo from Charlton Heston in Waynes World 2.
how sarcastic that we are almost there...
I feel a lot like Taylor now.
i never thought of zais as a villian. an antagonist to be sure, but hes only trying to defend the society and values of which all ape kind is a part. he knows that human society obviously went awry and fears it happening to his own society. he views taylor and what he represents as an existential threat to apekinds life.
Plz advise me on these doubts,
* How did the humans who survived with Caesar become mute? Lost the power to talk?
* Why dint the Mutants try to save the people in the surface and bring them to the underworld?
* Apart from Caesar or his descendants. How did other apes start to speak?
* The Mutants could have used their mind control over the attacking apes.
* The Mutants could have helped Taylor to find the spacecraft and return to the past to warn and save mankind. Instead they wanted to kill Taylor?
Awesome ending (comments on Zaius)!
You didn’t cover the part where Taylor sings of hating every ape, from chim-pan-A to chim-pan-Z. That’s the best part.
In the planning stages the relationship between Taylor (Thomas) and Dr. Zaius was more cordial but still adversarial as shown in the 1966 studio pitch/makeup test ruclips.net/video/a9cufbVNjr8/видео.html It looks like it was following the novel more than the movie ultimately did.
Pretty much covered everything from chimpan a to chimpan z in this vid
Neither of the two movie reboots understood any of the subtleties the original series had woven into their stories.
On the other hand, the 1974 TV series was pretty good (and also somewhat of a reboot, though being so close to the originals and even using all the same costumes and starring Roddy McDowall, it was kind of more of the same than anything else). Also, it's got Mark Lenard (Spock's dad) as the main gorilla villain (but yet another different actor for Doctor Zaius...just couldn't keep that same guy).
I haven't yet seen the cartoon, but since it also came out around that time, I expect it'll be a similar experience.
I think I've seen an episode. It was Filmation, using much the same techniques as He-Man, or the late 70s Batman, or Blackstar.
I quite liked the tim burton one. it was a lot of popcorn action but it still put in meaning and themes. Mostly just the ending made no sense, because they were trying to be clever and clearly were not.
But yeah the new movies seem to be nothing but completely-demonstrably-untrue sentiment about how awful mankind is and how we do all these horrible things to ourselves. Poppycock. We create dangerous things because they save millions of lives, and they we use those things responsibly.
@@KairuHakubi The ending of the Tim Burton re-make was intended to be explained in the sequel, but that never happened. That ending resembles the ending of the original novel, but the novel had built up properly to it.
@@CaminoAir well sort of. at least nothing in the book contradicted their ending
The Matt Reeves reboots was great cause it gave a more realistic explanation of the apes evolution and mans de evolution.
This film is an undisputed classic. While I enjoy some of the sequels, I sometimes wish they had never been made. Before the sequels were made, the end of this first film has a very different connotation; it implies that the humans simply started world war 3, and destroyed themselves. The apes then, are simply the next species to come along and evolved, as though the humans blew their shot, and nature gave the next species a chance to evolve. I mean I kind of like the sequels, but taken in isolation, the implied message of the first film is far more profound.
I can't remember. How did they go from an ape takeover at the end of Conquest to mutant humans in a radiated city at the start of Battle?
It is interesting to see how the moral of the story pertains to today.
really well done sfdebris!
Where is that 'promised Saviour' before this fearsome Earthly total destructions of the second coming.
Yet no one explains how the simians are all 5 ft tall now.
in the 4th movie they do. Apes were modify by humans when a virus wiped out nearly all domesticated animals
"This is your coming century! They will eat them Mandus, they will make pigs of you all and they will bury their snouts into your ribs and they will eat. your. hearts!"- Amnesia: A Machine for Pigs
"Monkey see, monkey do" does not work with this film, largely because apes are NOT monkeys.
Loved that - although the comment at the end about a “plot hole” is meant as a joke - right? There is no plot hole. They landed on Earth exactly as programmed except it’s 2,000 years in the future - Ape City is located where NYC was in fact. Taylor actually realises he’s home and he says so. That’s why he’s so distraught. The Planet of the Apes is Earth which after millennia was taken over my evolved apes when mankind pretty much destroyed everything.
Oooh so this is the fella lorerunner speaks of
Any idea why at the beginning of the movie, Charlton Heston's character and the other men were clean-shaven, but then when they woke up at the planet, they had beards? No beard growth the first 700 years but then it started?
I just wonder what the point of their journey even was... They were never going to report anything back, and even if they did, it probably would have been more efficient to wait for proper FTL to get invented... Or just send enough people to start a proper independent colony!
Given the unlikeliness of FTL (it's more accurately the speed of data than the speed of light), and the fall of human civilization, that would've meant no extrasolar exploration at all.
Because we can. This was written at the time Project Apollo was in the works, and probes to the inner planets were being designed and launched.
Lots of people in the 60s thought the Cold War would heat up and end in nuclear Armageddon. This thinking could lead to projects like the one in the movie, a one way trip to the future on a far off world to possibly colonize. Although having only one woman in the crew seems carrying on the human race was not the intent.
@@russellharrell2747 Maybe a cold war-style publicity stunt? Show your superiority by sending out what amounts to a suicide mission in order to get to say "We did it first!"
Just one that they went all-in on and decided "We're going to claim so many firsts that they are going to be catching up for centuries!"
This is what has happened to us, the modern homo sapiens..."MONKEYS SEE, MONKEYS DO!" Darwin's environmental theory.
(32:50) Wait. I always thought that somehow their spacecraft ended up back on Earth, not another planet. I never heard anyone say otherwise. So, is this a joke? It is a bit late for me. WAY past my bedtime. 😜
I think it was a matter of someone not paying enough attention to the script. Did you ever see that movie the 'Ghosts of Mars'? If you did then you likely paid attention and knew what was happening at the very end. I watched it in the theater and there were two other people watching it. When the movie ended one of the two asked me "Who were they fighting" and I was surprised that it wasn't clear enough for her to understand when it had already been made clear what the antagonists' capabilities were. Everything we had heard and seen up to that point had lead us to understand what was going on and it should have been even more clear than what had happened in Planet of the Apes.
Taylor says that he's returned home, to the planet he left, yet in that movie I think we were supposed to infer that their ship arrived at its destination, their stasis/hibernation chambers didn't open like they were supposed to and the ship either returned home on autopilot or did a slingshot (either on purpose or accident) and that's how they got back to Earth. I know in the second sequel they explained this as the ship went through a temporal wormhole and came out the other side headed right back to Earth, but I think they were just retconning in order to milk another movie out of the franchise. - That's my take on it.
@@blazerocker1734 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I always thought, through multiple viewings, mind you, that it turns out that they actually ended up back on Earth somehow. There were (and still are, I suppose) movies/shows that did a twist without not really thinking through the mechanics of how it would actually work out. But the way that plot hole title card at the end of the video is worded it sounds like a joke that is being multiple levels of meta. Like, it's making fun of people who take it all too seriously. Like, really? Someone is actually wondering how they _transported_ the statue _to_ the PotA rather than wondering how the astronauts ended up _back_ on Earth? I mean, I wouldn't put it past Chuck to go to that level of humor. I don't know. It was late when I wrote that comment and I just woke up right now, so maybe I just need to not watch videos or comment when I'm not fully online, so to speak. 😉
Next year, can you do an analysis of the movie Soylent Green?
They made a movie about the meal replacement drinks?
@@lynngreen7978 :facepalm:
@@Morgil27 actual company, actual product.
9:00 You know that's really saying something about practical effects that also shows that sometimes computers make us lazy & we'll end up paying for that laziness. Because this classic movie was made decades ago & no doubt probably done something similar with the live action stage play original are STILL better than that god awful cgi-crap fest Cats movie. Just prove that all the latest & fancy tech in the world will never be a good substitute for genuine effort.
1up, well done
what is red channel?
One of two other channels SFdebris has.
@@lynngreen7978 less than helpful. What are they?
I searched for sfdebris and found a channel with a red logo. You'd think he'd list it in this channel description
P.S.: What about that final "plot hole" mentioned? Why it's never explained how the Statue of Liberty was transported to the Planet of the Apes? If that's some kind of a tongue-in-cheek remark, it doesn't look that way. Anyway, I'm sure there are a few morons here and there who can't make heads or tails out of the story and will ask such a stupid question.
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Always loved classic Planet of the Apes. Never acknowledged remakes or the shitty planet of the marky marks.
4:17--"winge"--wince and cringe at the same time?
Watched this a few times, but something just struck me:
Early in the review, you make a point to hammer home that Taylor is a man of pure realism, rationality, only what is in front of you and deal with it through rigorous application of intelligence and logic.
And then, at the end of the film, his final line, as the Background video states, is literally cursing. Literally calling on God to damn to Hell the people responsible for destroying humanity. The man of pure reason has nothing left but faith. . . and even that is no solace. Because nothing, not man, not his God, and not God's damnation matters anymore.
Not super religious myself, just a nice final exclamation point on the utter destruction of the man Taylor was over the course of the film.
And I don't mean to imply that reason and faith cannot coexist, just that Taylor at the start of the film seems very much like someone who'd pooh-pooh any kind of religion, but by the end, all he can do is hope that someone, somewhere, somehow, is paying for what's happened, even if it won't make a damn bit of difference.
OranguTAN, not OranguTANG
"OranguTANG" conjures up images of apes doing commercials for orange flavored drink crystals.
@@willmfrank The word ends in G in the original Malayan I believe.
I hate every ape I see, from chimpan-A to chimpanzee, no they will never make a monkey out of me
Merry Christmas everyone!🎅🎄🎁
A satanic Wet Dream
The intro ruins the "surprise ending" of the movie for me. Being that far in the future, and the heavy handed "humanity self destructs" monolog, and I'd already seen Twilight Zone, I was only wondering, "Are they going to do a time loop and go the cheesy Adam & Eve route?" I'd have been more surprised if they weren't on Earth. If fact I find it odd that Taylor didn't guess the ending immediately since they aren't far enough in the future for the constellations to have changed significantly, but this is Movie Sci-Fi so you just have to roll your eyes and accept what you're presented with.
They should have have pumped up the oxygen on the planet and had the astronauts complain that their eyes, noses and throats were burning. I'd have had glittering debris in orbit blocking a clear view of the stars and incidentally responsible for their crash. A slight filter on the sky to shift the hue just slightly. I'd have had malfunctions in all their equipment so their chronometer was stopped at the given date, but it wasn't the final date. Just saying there are a lot of little things you can do to throw people off that this is Earth.
It is a hard thing to balance. Twist tend to work better when you do plant information about the twist though the story, without revealing the twist. But if you give too much, then you give it all away. This is not necessarily bad either. Since it can make the audience feel smart that they figured it out. But you still need to keep it on a level where the audience feel smart, of course in that case. That it was not obvious.
If you do not plant these hints, then the twist feels like it came out of no ware, in a bad sense. That the writers just added it at the last moment. It does not connect. This I think is the main reason why writing a good twist is so hard. You can not give too much, or you give it away. But you must have some build-up, or you will feel cheated.
I think the twist in this movie works worse today, not only due to it simply so well known in popular media. But also the audience today is a bit more sophisticated. We are more used to this narrative plot device. We on a whole know science better, especially if we like science fiction movies. So this would not work on most today, I think. While in the past people who figured out the twist would likely feel they were smart while others would be more likely to fall for it.
@@Cythil Frankly I don't think the writer cared since he claims to be a "black list" writer. Invariably those claiming to be on the mythical commie black list are eager to sacrifice story to push ideology. The only real black list in Hollywood was printed in the Writer's Guild newsletter, and you got on that list for not being a commie.
@@Cythil Pretty much. You have to consider it from the perspective of someone back then. If you look at the Twilight Zone, speaking of which, there's a lot of "this alien planet has humans on it". Star Trek TOS has a few examples of that as well. It wasn't uncommon back then. So, safe to assume audiences were accepting of this being an alien world for the most part.
@@gallendugall8913 Of course, you care if you are a storyteller. Even if you have a motive. A storyteller that can not tell an engaging story won't manage to engage the audience. And no matter if your goal is to teach, or make money, or some other goal, not engaging your audience will be a failure.
Or in short. If people do not sit down and watch your movie. Then how will you get paid, or able to impart your message?
@@Blues_Light Yep. Common trope back then. And in many ways the kind of visual effect that planet of the apes had would help to move away from this with better makeup.
And today we not only have animatronics and advanced puppeteering at our disposal. But CGI. Not to mention the huge budgets we have for even a TV series. So it not only that people are more aware of the science. But the medium itself have gone more towards an alien look.
Wilson likely got the inspiration for the mock trial from the Stalinist show trials he cheered on from afar.
The movie was ahead of it's time. How did they know what the GOP would turn into 50+ years later.
Which party is advocating defunding the police because "it'll reduce crime". You silly moron.
This movie gave us an unrealistic expectation of how wonderfully enbeardened the astronauts of the 70s would be. Baffling he ditches it later on a planet with no styptic pencils.
I literally just now realized how nobody in the movie questions people ostensibly from separate planets speak the same language..
oy, can't resist throwing in some reprehensible modern politics, can ya.
Uh.. I never got the impression he wanted Nova for "human companionship." Yknow, that requires the ability to speak.. he had much more of that 'basic human need to bond with one of their own kind' with Zira.
In the novel the astronaut learns the ape language over several months. There just isn't time in a film to feature something like that. Additionally, the apes in the novel (as far as I can remember) only turn openly hostile to the astronaut when he and a human woman produce a pregnancy [I'm open to correction by someone on that if I'm wrong]. In the film there is no chance that Taylor would be allowed enough time, or even the possibility, of learning their language.
@@CaminoAir yeah that's what i figured. books are better at getting to that junk.
stop with the "jokes"...please...it makes it hard to watch