The Hunger Games: The Ballad of Songbirds & Snakes
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- Опубликовано: 21 сен 2024
- The Hunger Games returns with a Coriolanus Snow back story. Does it live up? Does it disappoint? Does anyone still care? Here's my review for THE HUNGER GAMES: THE BALLAD OF SONGBIRDS& SNAKES!
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I am sorry that Charles White did not reprise his role as district 8 hospital helper.
I can't believe he and Jennifer Lawrence used to date.
I can’t believe his role has been cut twice
God that guy sucked
He’ll be back
Snubbed!!!
Now that we know Snow’s history with THE song I can only imagine how he felt hearing Katniss singing it. It must have hit him like a truck. The very same song that is used against him.
I was thinking the exact same thing this morning! 😅
Incredible reveal when we see her writing it 😄
thats probably why it was banned! wow i've never made that connection before lol
He didn't hear it though, did he? Didn't that guy say he broadcasted it everywhere except for the capital?
@@aksharamedam4823 it was banned?
The amount of people mad at the ending who saw the first 4 movies is hilarious. IT'S LITERALLY PRESIDENT SNOW
@@shawklan27 do you people really not keep up with film news? It was always going to be a TRILOGY. Can't really have a close ended SECOND MOVIE of a TRILOGY dude.
@@TheRibottoStudiosa trilogy ? That'll make it worse 😂 it's just one book why make it a trilogy movie
@@TheRibottoStudios A trilogy? Uhh Suzanne Collins herself never said that The Ballad Of Songbirds and Snakes is going to be a trilogy 🤷
Even Francis Lawrence and the producers said that they'll make more Hunger Games movies if Collins wrote a book for them. So it depends on Collins herself
@@Nishanth_mementomoriyup just look at the hobbit lol. When you try to stretch one amazing book into 3 shitty movies.
@@breadddward5455 if you're referring to snow abruptly becoming the bad guy, it was more abrupt in the book. he turns on lucy gray at a snap of a finger pretty much.
Viola Davis’ character, Dr. Gaul, is very silly in the first part of the book 😂 Not surprised you found her “cartoony”. But you quickly realized she’s not one to mess with. I kept thinking “Oh Viola had fun in this role” lol She’s one of my favorite characters.
Her silliness was exactly what made her so terrifying. A serious tyrant’s one thing but a playful one’s so chilling to me
@@kajsajohansson4111 Hey, she always savors her villain roles, she's been fighting for them all her life.
This is a character that began almost every sentence with "hippidy hop...", so, yeah, cartoony. Viola Davis looks to be spot on
@@suzygirl1843very rare to find viola in evil roles… love when she does villains / shady characters, like in street kings or that superhero villain movie
@@blackleague212Yeah that dc movie
Book reader here. The ending in the book sprints just as hard to the end. The movie actually did a good job of slowing down the end that was in the book. The casting was incredible here; the story is extremely faithful to the book; I had a great time all around with it. I so hope Suzanne Collins writes another in this world.
Books can catch a break, but in film it feels extremely rushed. Super odd how he got all sinister, I doubt anyone watching, either book reader or not, could cope with.
I agree
@@Miguel-s9n6ehe was sinister many times. There were several small moments when he would lie for no reason. Him snapping at the end was expected.
@@Miguel-s9n6ethere was always an undertone of something like off with Snow from the beginning. It was just brought to the forefront at the end.
In the beginning, you see him play both sides with his "friends" and Sejanus when the other is out of earshot.
Later, you see that he doesn't grieve for the dead classmate like the others do, and finishes an essay that some (i.e. the dean) might consider pathological in one night.
You then see his lack of empathy to help anyone but Lucy Gray, his ward, even if it is hidden by youthful naivete.
He doesn't hesitate to cheat and lie through all his problems, and when in the arena, demonstrates a lack of care for his supposed friend, as well as an unnecessary amount of brutality against the district kid he kills.
Later when he is on the train, you can see Sejanus being happy to be with him, but from what I recall Snow never showed anywhere near that level of happiness until he saw Lucy Gray, his prized songbird, alive again.
And then in the third act he starts to break down for all to see
The books don’t matter.
The books never matter smh don’t you watch cinema sins?
I actually think the opposite, i love the last 30-45 minutes. The cabin scene was incredible, you feel exactly what lucy gray was feeling which was "i have no clue what you're thinking, but i know im gonna end up dead soon if i dont escape". Him holding the gun while going "you wont tell anyone right?" Was chilling.
But i 100% agree, should have been a show. Probably not even a mini series, the film is long enough for 5 30 minute episodes, but parts still felt rushed. 10 episodes easily.
Who did he kill ? The guy in the arena?
@@RP-16SPOILERS:
When he said he’s killed 3 people, the third one he meant was Sejanus. Rachel only knew about the kid in the arena and the Mayor’s daughter.
Would’ve made a great mini series… could’ve been a 6 parter, 50 minutes each.
@@alexbosworth1582 he told her the truth? Why did she leave? Cuz he wanted nothing to do with rebels? Did he actually shoot her at the end? She should have been long gone
@@RP-16He didn't tell her the truth but she realizes he's lying.
I’m really glad Jeremy brought up the reason WHY some movies have bad CG; underpaid and overworked VFX artists with impossible deadlines and execs being satisfied with the barest bones possible shots to be released in the movie is a LARGE reason why CG in movies has decreased in quality over the years.
Most of the time people usually blame the directors and VFX artists for making “shitty CGI” and don’t understand the real reasons behind why things turn out the way they do in movies
That's why the Marvel VFX team wants to unionize. I can't imagine being told your team has to make up nearly a thousand VFX shots and you have less than a year to finish.
I would also sometimes blame the directors because you can only work with what you are given. If the director does not compose his shots well and expects the VFX artists to "fix it in post," that's a recipe for disaster. VFX shouldn't "fix" anything, but enhance it. If they have to fix it, that means you failed in your job.
@@mathsalot8099 That's not entirely true. You can do a lot in post very easily that is very hard to do in reality or what takes a lot of time and effort (or money) or simply is very dangerous.
It gets problematic if the director has no clue what can be done and uses the ability to fix something as the default mode of operation. A director can make it easier for post, but post can also make it easier for an director.
Overall the biggest problem is bad management of the production and since VFX sits at the end of the production pipeline, they have to fix everything out of necessity (and then get all the blame if it doesn't work out).
So I would blame the producers especially, the directors and the writers before I would start blaming the VFX teams.
@@RyoMassaki agreed. When I said VFX is to "enhance," I meant the shots you cited that are too expensive, dangerous or straight up impossible. Those aren't "fixing" a bad production. I think we are on the same page, though (hense why I said "sometimes" the director, not always or even often.) The problems generally go from the top down.
Edit: Top meaning the Studio
Another big reason is that the people behind CGI will get done with their work or are still in progress of doing it, and then the studio comes back demanding changes be made, sometimes even having to redo the entire sequence. Why? Because the actual filmmakers or higher ups don't know what they want. Gone are the days when they have everything planned out ahead of time before shooting, which made it easier for the people behind CGI to do their work properly.
Agree with a lot except for Rachel and Lucy Grey and the third act. She is a much more ambiguous character and very different than Katniss, she is a performer and you never know how faithful she is and what is real. I think Rachel portrayed that stellar as I could literally see these conflicting emotions (love and mistrust, terrified and reassuring) before she said the lines that telled them.
Minor, ambiguous spoilers I guess:
My mom always told me, don't trust someone saying outright, trust me. So when there's a discussion of trust, the characters involved all seem like try hards despite very different delivery, against possibly untrustworthy feelings. The zealous matter-of-fact versus choked up only for you, admissions.
I imagine if Lucy wanted to see Snow again she could have. But I imagine she was relieved and thought maybe he'd leave her be after a bit of time. Maybe on stage that wasn't joy but panic. She can be read any which way as a girl threatened and finding this man with some power also has presented an infatuation with her. For her life why would anyone blame her playing reciprocation? And if she did feel for him, why would anyone blame her for growing fearful and fawning at that point?
Haven't read the book, just wasn't attracted to reading Snow's perspective, but the film was good as a general history to the trilogy. And it was a really good story of a person adapting to the tools around them, arena and not, to survive.
Uhh Katnis was literally fucking with two men In their face. So that part about trusting just ain't true for either character. They both sang and had this hero vibe to them. Lucy was a copy cat character of kat to the max
@@eliteleveliq4289No she wasn’t. Katniss and Lucy had some similarities, but overall they are much different characters. Lucy is a performer with lots of charisma, and Katniss is pretty much the opposite. Lucy is closer to Peeta than Katniss
@@tmm4195 yal keep saying a performer which is so slow. Ok so they both sang and one perform. Great fucking difference..are yal ppl crazy lol that's like saying mc Donald's and Burger King are so different because one is an actual burger place that perform burgers. So I guess McDonald's is vastly different right. Gtfoh lol. Everything these higher ups present you ppl yal sware it's the best thing ever. Like stop.
@@eliteleveliq4289 Katniss and Lucy Gray are complete OPPOSITE characters, literally could not be more different
Even in the book the story is all about snow and Lucy is just a catalyst for him.
I would argue that Snow never really changed. He just stopped hiding who he was. Throughout the story, he’s always putting his own interests above anything else.
Yes, very true. Even early in the movie when he’s calling for Tigress and is upset the shirt is missing I was like, “Geez, what an asshole! I thought he was supposed to start off nice and slowly turn evil.”
I thought that was a good, subtle scene that foreshadowed his character arc.
@@guy8646 That’s a bit of a stretch lol. He’s yelling for the shirt cause he thinks he’s about to have the most important day of his life that will bring his family out of poverty. It’s not like he had any other shirt, it was that or show up shirtless, of course he would be yelling for her, it doesn’t make him an asshole lol.
@@guy8646 But his arc was clearly meant to be that of a still torn child that is twisted by the influence if his surroundings.
From the entire narrative it is clear that he isn‘t supposed to be evil from the start. There is evil and good in him and he chooses a path. Tigris mentioned his father and mother. His mother was full of compassion, his father full of hate. In the end he chose to become like his father.
This book was ACTUALLY a decent prequel and a decent villian backstory. Truly proves protagonist doesn't mean good guy, just main character, Excited to see this on the big screen.
it is a new trilogy or is just this book?
@@akiraperu1It's based on one book only. This is the only prequel book that Suzanne Collins wrote
To me the ending felt kinda rushed after the cabin what were your thoughts
Stop seeing terrible movies. You only tell movie companies you're ok with garbage.
Somehow Snow returned.
Jeremy, I grew up watching your channel all the way back in 2009. I just need to say PLEASE DO NOT EVER CHANGE YOUR INTRO OR OUTRO EFFECTS. It’s so amazing you’ve kept it at all these years . Thanks for years of great content!!
ADHD?
@@eachypinky118tf 😭
As someone who is a big fan of this book in the series, the ending was a little bit rushed there as well. I will say that you get a lot more out of Lucy Gray’s character if you pay attention to the lyrics of her songs because it dwells more into her backstory and her current feelings about a situation. This is obviously really hard to do on first viewing with the vocal changes and fast speeds of some of singing scenes. Overall, I thought this movie was really accurate to the book with only some minor changes that made sense to fit all the information into one movie.
Why the hell is she even singing? I don't remember the hunger games being a musical
@@harty3113because she’s a performer?? That’s like saying why Peeta knows how to bake bread when he grew up in a bakery
@@harty3113 Her character is a singer. That's the main reason why there's more singing. When they're in district twelve in the book, one of the few times Snow can actually go to see Lucy is when her band performs in public. Also there was singing in the original movies, because Katniss would sing a few of the song's they'll most likely sing in this movie to Prim or Rue, when she's trying to comfort somebody.
@@turnipcrazy4602 singing the way katniss did made sense. Breaking out in a song to tell everyone your feelings doesn't. But I haven't seen it I just assumed based on the comment it just randomly broke out in song
@@harty3113 It’s a big part of the book where Lucy Gray is kind of the opposite of Katniss as a protagonist. Katniss was a fighter and hunter forced to perform and play in the reality type show of the hunger games. Lucy Gray is an extrovert that performs in district 12 that loves the attention and has lots of charm, but not much of the fighting efficiency that Katniss does. She plays her games more like Peeta where she wins over capitol citizens with her voice and can almost manipulate snow into flirting with him as extra motivation to help her win the games sort of.
I worked as part of the team controlling the screens used on the sets where the mentors watch the games, had a lot of fun working on it and I'm glad you liked it!
Tom Blythe surprised me in the trailers, and I think he’s got the makings of a powerhouse actor
But does he have the makings of a varsity athelete?
If he doesnt want to be famous for flops he should stay away from weird weird weird
When JJ had to censor his own sarcasm to avoid RUclips labeling his video misinformation. Comedic Gold!
Hope more people hears the message.
This would work as a great pilot for a Snow series. You could structure it like The Crown or For All Mankind, and view the rise of Snow through each subsequent decade, and how Snow survived numerous poisonings.
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This tells when Snow embraced his ruthlessness and rejected happiness.
He murdered children and sold the survivors into prostitution. We do not need an “uwu sad boy backstory” for Panem’s most ruthless pimp.
@@mc-rn8roI agree. I want it to be a character study on how far sociopathic people go for power. Not a sympathetic exploration but one that condemns the protagonist.
@@GEMINIEARTHWALKERyeah, as a slight aside note what made a villain like Thrawn in star wars great is he was understandable at times, but not sympathetic in his first rendition. He had played the long game to become king of the galaxy, and was willing to make his final rush Genghis Khan style. Almost, as I felt even then he needed to be just a bit more ruthless, but essentially ruthless until he got what he wanted and you bowed to him, and then he'd rebuild the galaxy in stability and peace--supposedly
When he became popular, later books and crap shows made it where "no, um, actually, his people were about to come under threat from invaders in the next 10-20 years, so his people secretly "exiled" him to become a part of the Empire to ally/take the military back with him someday to save his whole race, and eventually the galaxy from these uber duber bad guys who are the REAL villains. He had your best interest at heart!" Way to cut off a guys dick.
The fact that President Snow got the same treatment is maddening. Show us a sociopaths rise to power, and his few fleeting human weaknesses, not a little good boi who fell to darkness
@@dflaming1371 if you watch it there are signs that he is putting on an act. If youve ever met a sociopath, they put up a really good charismatic act to get you on their side. In the end by the end he drops the act when things go to shit. I thought they did it well.
I'm sad to hear that Lucy Gray's character wasn't as standout as it could have been. (From the book) I did enjoy how you understood EXACTLY how she was using her singing to say ALL THE THINGS about the capital...without "saying" them. She was stubborn like Katniss but I feel character wise, they are very different. Her character was almost opposite to Katniss and I feel that the creative team might have been scared to go in that direction when Jennifer's Katniss was so well received. Truly, it's Snow's story so I'm glad that actor was on his game but with Lucy Gray being so foundational to his roots/motivations, it would have been nice to have both be strong characters.
Yeah, Lucy Gray was so great in the book and I felt for her, but I’ve noticed from the trailers her performance seems stale and that’s disappointing.
@@JustinBoccinah she’s actually really freaking great. Watched it last night and my audience really fell in love with her
Rachel Zegler actually explained the difference between Lucy and Katniss in a nice way. "Katniss is a fighter that had to perform, Lucy is a performer that has to fight."
Nah don't worry just saw the movie she's a stand-out
Watch it yourself and form your own opinion. In my opinion she was the best part of the movie.
No I think this movie is perfect and fits all the scenes to be exactly what was in the book. It’s Snow’s perspective so yes he’s going to see things differently than it might have actually happened. But Lucy is accurate to the way she was written. And she’s not forgettable once you see what she did to Snow but she also was basically written out of their history so she’s not going to be written to be some major character like Katniss who will forever live in the minds of others. She’ll be a character that you know and you know what parts she was involved in for creating a tyrannical ruler but she isn’t actually forgettable. Lucy Gray and Snow created the world Katniss grew up in so she’s just as impactful and important as any other character. And I think people should read the book before they complain about the songs because if they actually read the book they’d know she does break out in song a lot, she’s a performer, part of a band, she expresses herself through song. And it’s a way of showing how she manipulates too. Like a snake charmer, she uses her songs to charm the people she wants to use. She charmed snow and made him believe that she was in love with him. She charmed the capital to think she was a girl in need. She’s smart and cunning and it shows through her songs. Much like Snow uses words to manipulate and gets close to people only to stab them in the back later on. “Nothing You Can Take From Me” was purposely sung at the reaping, the whole song should have been sang as it happened in the book but it was her act of defiance and her first attempt to manipulate the way people saw her. Just read the book.
This.
But what’s confusing is we don’t know her motivation at all besides wanting to live. She flip flops from confident girl boss to damsel in distress every other line. Katnisses motivation is to survive and get back to her family in the first movie. Sure it’s from Snows point of view but we could have had some dialogue to show us that she was manipulating him to get to her own motivation of some kind. 🤷🏻♂️
@@marcusmezzano Anger? Defiance? She was suddenly forced into a life she didn’t want in a district and then to make it worse picked to be a tribute for the games because her ex boyfriend’s new lover hated her. Again it’s Snows perspective so he sees her as someone he can trust, he wouldn’t be looking for any reasons to think he’s being manipulated. The only real way to know when the manipulation technically started would be to read through a 3rd perspective but that’s not the point, the point is we’re seeing the beginnings of Snows reign through his eyes.
@@elliottrejo5676 You’ve read the book though so you’re subconsciously filling in these blanks. For instance, right off the bat when we meet Lucy Gray and she’s picked in the reaping we have no idea who the girl is that she puts the snake in her shirt so in my mind Lucy is just a cocky trouble maker when in reality she’s getting back at that girl for cheating. But since I didn’t read the book I don’t know that and the explanations are barely touched on and sometimes in the form of song which is hard to hear. So all of these emotions you’re describing we weren’t shown like we were shown in the first hunger games movie. This movie was made for the readers who have all this inner dialogue in their minds already so for you it will be a perfect movie but for the non readers it’s a mess 🤷🏻♂️
@@marcusmezzano It is why I said to read the book in the first comment I made because criticizing a movie without fact checking what happened in the book only shows that the book wasn’t read. It defeats the purpose to go see a movie you know nothing about and then make comments and get into debates with those who did read the book and say it’s perfect for us and a “mess” for those who didn’t read it. So please read the book before judging.
cannot disagree more about Lucy-Gray, she was stellar in my opinion. A consious actor trying her hardest to survive, and then realising that shes fallen in love with a man she cannot trust. We see her from Snows perspective. We see the facade. We never get a scene where we see her without her guard up because Snow fails to ever win her trust. In my opinion if youre paying attention you can see all of this written between the lines of her performance. Its incredible, or at least I thought so.
Well and whats nice about it being Snow's perspective and knowing shes a performer now trying to survive... you could see her affections as a long con, even a little Stockholm to take advantage of his affections and efforts on her behalf.
I believe Snow saw Lucy how she wished to be seen and she truly thought there was good In him in the song “pure as the driven snow” she sings You’re as pure as the driven snow, you saw the Ideal me and yes that’s the real me. After she sings the song she immediately goes and chases Snow cause she can tell something is wrong, I don’t think she would have went after him mid performance if she didn’t at least trust and love him a bit but after he shoots the mayors daughter the true testing of Trust begins and goes down hill from there to snow not telling her he was gonna leave to his friends hanging and to him saying he killed three. anyhow I find all very sad
***SPOILERS coming...*** This is the right take. Also, as @SabrinaRina wrote, it started as a long con. Lucy was a little too flirty and charming with Snow in the beginning. It seemed like she was playing him from the start. But as time went on, she started having real feelings for him even if she was conflicted about whether or not she could fully trust him. The point where he shoots Mayfair in the back is what changed everything, or tipped things over to distrust. Lucy saw a different side of Snow, what he was capable of. With him, the ends justify the means if it means he can survive another day (what if he's capable of shooting Lucy, the last loose end?). Finally, Lucy's last name explains the type of character she is. She lives in the "Gray" area. You don't really know where she stands, her feelings are meant to be ambigous. I was pleasantly surprised and really enjoyed this movie. (I have not read the book.)
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5:11 ngl, that caught me off guard 😂
Jeremy is the only reviewer I’ll watch even if I couldn’t possibly care less about the movie.
You should check out Chris Stuckmann!!
@@ViolenthrustJeremy is more honest than Chris. Ever since Chris got into directing he won’t criticise a movie.
@@andrewpennys823 fair point. But Chris only discusses a movie if he enjoys it. So if he reviews a movie, you know it will be good. Just a different style. I watch both of them.
@@andrewpennys823And that's just taking out the anticipation before watching it to know whether Chris liked the movie or not, cause you know, if he posted about it, he obviously liked it.
Same
"DOLLAR STORE KATNISS !" That was perfectly said you legend!
weird...weird
Hahaha😂. I'm not pouncing on Rachel, I'm just here because that joke is so dang funny.
Even the actress said she’s a dollar store Katniss something about “Katniss was a warrior who had to put on a show - but I play an actress or who pretends to be a killer” 🤷🏾♂️ so it’s what they were going for
@@firstlast9846it’s not “what they were going for” it’s simply the way the book is written. Lucy Gray Baird isn’t Katniss. She isn’t amazingly skilled in combat nor does she have the survival skills like Katniss. The point of her character was that she was a turning point in how the games were approached. She was a performer. A singer with a high energy spirit who could captivate a crowd. Her being in the 10th games showed that you could get people invested in the tributes and have them root for someone even if they thought they had no chance. That was the start of making it more a reality TV show than a mass slaughter. So they aren’t trying to get Lucy gray Baird to be like Katniss but shittier, she’s nothing like Katniss other than the fact they’re both females from 12.
@@firstlast9846 I think you completely missed the point of what the actress was saying. She was saying that Lucy was an inversion of katniss, not a copy of her. Katniss was a hunter forced to be a performer, lucy was a performer forced to be a hunter. Theyre kind of opposites of each other, theyre not alike at all. Katniss is supposed to be cold, distant and not very charismatic / likeable to the people around her, whereas lucy is supposed to be very charismatic and likeable to the people around her, which is how she survives as she does not have the survival skills katniss does.
As a massive hunger games fan this is was everything to me. I loved it from start to finish but I especially loved the second chapter being the hunger games. It reminded me why I love this franchise
Your review reminds me of the book. I hated the third act, but the beginning was great. I wanted to know more about that world; It was so intriguing. The ending was terrible. It felt rushed.
Yeah it was like after Snow found out about the rebels it was like quickly pushing though how Snow was able to get back on top. Wish it was a bit slowed down so we got the chance to breathe and digest what was happening.
The books were pretty much the same though. The first 2 were great the last was pretty much a boring romance
Yeah the 3rd act completely fell apart for me. I thought the first 2 acts were great and justified its existence, then the 3rd act really dropped the ball
@@Hangnailer47 No it wasn't, but the first half of the last book did not warrant its own movie.
This!! I loved the book in general but hated how rushed and abrupt the ending was. Seems like they have stayed true to the book with the movie haha
If you read the book you would understand more that lucy is a side chartcher and is ment to be Mysterious and Rachelle is a perfect Lucy and was extremely charismatic and uses her music as a form a rebellion
If every answer is " read the book " the movie didn't do it's job
As someone who read the book, its pretty decent prequel.
And anyone upset about the ending. Its President Snow's Backstory, you really think it was gonna be a "good one"
it doesn’t seem like most people are “upset” about the ending…it was the execution of it, with many feeling that it was too rushed.
@@xanderkai6353 ive heard many people say the ending / third act was very bad and they did not like it at all, which I completely disagree with. I definitely do agree it was rushed and they would have benfited from splitting the movie into two movies, but I still found the third act interesting to watch.
@@FirstnameLastname-zq8oy That literally what he said. The issue isn't that people hated the idea of the ending, they hated how rushed and poorly written it was
It’s interesting to hear you call Lucy forgettable. I read the book earlier this year and felt like she was a background character in there too. It’s weird that they’d market her as the main lead if she’s still not a central focus!
If you found her as a background character in the book I think the movie would make you think that even more. The mentoring and games get rushed a lot. I think the capitol scenes span about 5 days before snow goes to 12. Super fast compared to the books. She gets to stand out more when she performs in 12 but other than that not much.
@@Lalisd5 Dang that’s kinda disappointing. I like Rachel a lot, so I was hoping she’d get more time!
@@Lalisd5 the games were heavily extended in the movie, just the mentoring was rushed
Hehe people actually like Jennifer Lawrence
That’s crazy because Lucy has been stuck in my head since I watched last night. Rachel brought so much charisma and there are certain scenes that moved me and my friends to the point where we were so scared she would die 😭
“Felt like his head was gonna get crushed by Omni-Man… no.”
Jeremy is on his Mortal Kombat 1 binge and god bless him for it
or watching the new invincible season
That was my first Hunger Games and WOW what a gorgeous movie it is! Watched it two times in the row in cinema 🔥 And Rachel is such an eye-magnet of an actress!
If you like that one, watch catching fire
I recommend watching the original 4 movies if you haven't already
Am I the only one that didn’t know this movie existed?
You're not the only one.
Got a lot of RUclips ads with its trailer recently.
Most people who know this movie's existence are hardcore fans of the books and the franchise. For the general audience who's not into the lore of the franchise that much, they'll likely don't know that this exists or even the book itself 🤷
Love the HG games books...SB&S is so bloody boring.
Yes
Actually it didn’t feel rushed to me at all. There were many hints throughout the movie in Snow’s behaviour, he had his little dark side since the very beginning. I feel more like the end was just one of those sudden events that just happen unexpectedly, that the end was equally sudden for the characters as it was was for us. Like a snowball that just gets quicker and quicker. They survived and saw a lot, every character had their story shaped a little bit off screen even maybe, but it was there and you could feel it, and then and the end it just all exploded. Everything happened at once in the story and I felt that the movie showed exactly that. The situation evolved quickly and all the characters had to react adequately, resulting in a mess, but for me it felt on point.
She's not going to be saved by the prince!
Weiirdd.. weiiirrd1
Weird!...Weird
Evidently Sooooooooooo
It's no longer 1937
But that's Hollywood baby.
Lucy seems like a background character because her fate is to be forgotten. She is based on a poem. Since it's from Snow's perspective it makes sense why she isn't as present except for key moments that show that he is slowly moving towards evil and selfishness.
I loved the ending! It was such a good villain origin! And Snow's actor was so cool! 🤍🤍🤍
Snow in the book you get his internal thoughts and he's CLEARLY a narcissist at least, so I hope the performer gets across that his niceness is mostly performative to serve his own ends which is to serve his own needs and ego.
@neonthunderbirdthere are plenty other narcissists in this world besides trump…that feels like a huge stretch to say this character was based on him lol
@neonthunderbirddude was an established dictator loooong before Trump…it’s a bit of a stretch to link the concept of narcissism exclusively to him for the sake of “agenda”
@neonthunderbird nope snow and sejanus are meant to be allegories of Locke and Hobbes who are political philosphers from the 1600s. They have opposing theories on how people should be governed and that's what this story is meant to be exploring
I'm sitting here wondering why you care about who it's an allegory for at all, did the rich billionaire who probably lies over 20 times a day promise he would take 'Merica back to it's roots?? if so I have a big surprise for you he wont and he didn't, same thing applies to democrats about their progressiveness, they don't care. All of politics is trash. Stop defending rich people who don't care about me or you over idiotic things like a movie. Unless he's your cousin or something. @neonthunderbird
@neonthunderbird HE IS NOT TRUMP!!! TRUMP WAS ONE OF THE BEST, THAT BAG OF BONES WE GOT NOW IS THE WORST AND KEEP YOUR DAMN POLITICS OUT OF THIS!!!
Yes! Justice for VFX artists. You can't expect good work when you give them unfairly short working time. It's unfair and the fans end up yelling at the VFX artists on twitter, and of course they can't badmouth the film makers. If only studios managed release timelines more humanely and less greedily.
We all have deadlines.
Justice? Are there crimes being committed against VFX artists?
@@toaleydanza14True, but studios are making unrealistic expectations all while continuing to reshoot large parts of movies, which then puts more strain on CGI artists.
@@roboninja3194 you have no idea. It is fucking criminal how VFX artists are treated.
@@toaleydanza14 and fair working time
I am shocked that they had the self control to not stretch this out into 3 or 4 movies!
10 movies, 10 would be perfect.
The ending is fantastic, people just forgot who the MC was tbh
It seems like the movie forget who the MC was until the ending
This movie was so damn good. I was surprised at how invested I was. The lead actor is awesome.
The book I felt that the story lacked the intensity and suspense present in the original trilogy, and the protagonist's moral ambiguity made it challenging to empathize with him. AS ALWAYS A VERY excited to watch it
I don’t know if you’re necessarily supposed to empathize with Snow.
I had a hard time empathizing with Katniss in the trilogy since she was the most one dimensional character I've ever read a book about.
@@jonstiffer4994I read some shitty books as a kid but even like 13 year old me knew the hunger games book was boring.
I never made it past like the second chapter. It’s soooo boring
thats the point…
@@jonstiffer4994 Katniss is not a one dimensional character lmfao, she's just more stoic and emotionally numb at points due to the trauma she's experienced and being forced to grow up so fast. The hunger games trilogy were genuinely well written books in my opinion, ESPECIALLY for books in the YA genre which is often riddled with trash, although obviously not everyone is going to have the same opinion on a book / series.
Jeremy’s been killing it with the bits
WTF
This movie was hidden better than my dog hides my shoes
That's wonderful, it needs to fall further into irrelevance.
Love the HG books and read this one out of curiosity, it was so friggin boring.
Ziegler is a bad PR machine. My guess is they realized the odds were stacked against it and didn't invest in advertising.
@@MegaTeeruk It's not like they couldn't advertise cause there was a strike happening
@@_ivanche Stop it. The studio could've marketed the film and they definitely did. I was seeing multiple commercials a day for this movie on tv. The strike meant the actors themselves could not do promotion. Just like the Marvels was marketed all over too with commercials, ads, and trailers. The studios were not on strike.
@@MegaTeerukLmao no. She’s done a great job promoting this movie the past week
Thank you for pointing out the information control real life parallel in this movie. I honestly think it goes over most people's heads these days...
Loved the book and the ending had me smiling at how dark it was.
Same!!
Are all furries zoophiles?
“Had me smiling at how dark it was” > furry pfp. Lmao
@@cornpop838what does that have to with anything 💀
I would love to see a prequel of the civil war that lead to the capital rising up to power forming the districts and then the last scene could be them announcing the first ever Hunger Games
This guy is most consistent RUclipsR of all time.
This movie was great. There should definently be another movie in this prequel series.
Can we… um… can we acknowledge how great Lucky Flickerman’s character was?
And thank you for commenting on the VFX situation! We all know it’s not the artists causing this drop in quality because we know what they’re capable of. So we still have to verbalise our complaint about the shoddy unfinished VFX until Hollywood starts actually giving the artists the time, respect and pay (ALL OF THESE) they deserve.
Then we get films like Endgame and Avatar: The Way of Water. And it clearly pays off since they’re some of the highest grossing films of all time.
PAY YOUR ARTISTS
AND WRITERS WHILE WE’RE AT IT
I absolutely agree with your comments on Tom Blyth and Rachel Zegler's acting.Though the climax in the woods was indeed rushed, yet Tom did it perfectly with his acting and i was just so immersed in the scene.
I didn’t even know this movie was coming out yet. I loved your description of Rachel Ziegler 😂 FAF
That video unavailable caught me so off guard! 😂😂😂 you never cease to amaze us at how funny you are!
That offhand reference to Don't Be A Menace to South Central While Drinking Your Juice in the Hood was the very specific thing I didn't realise I needed today until it happened. 10/10 obscure nod.
I agree with you pretty much 100%. Just saw the film, and Ziegler felt like a fake southern person every moment she was on screen. And the last act was a rush.
Still one of the longest titles for a movie I can think of. Is "birds of prey and the fantabulous emancipation of one harley quinn"
this is the first time that I'm seeing Jeremy doing a "post credits scene" .... I love it 😂😂😂😂
I loved this movie, it stay closed to the book, and I liked seeing Coriolanus being ambitious and although he liked Lucy, those two had different ideas, I liked the aspect of a huge focus that it had the hunger games before Katniss era and the changes that were made. I always enjoyed the actual hunger games and less when the movie was about the revolution which was in Mockingjay
That's how it starts. The fever, the rage, the feeling of powerlessness that turns good men... cruel.
- C. Snow
I can’t wait for this film! The book was fantastic. I’m definitely curious how the ending will translate on screen. It wasn’t rushed in the book, but it was definitely disorienting, because you’re reading everything from Snow’s POV. There are also some things that happen that are left up to interpretation.
Anytime there is a reference to don’t be a menace in south central while drinking your juice…. You at that point we’ll always have my subscription, sir.
Well, now that Jeremy has watched this, it’s made at least 1/3 of its box office take already.
Whoa! Never expected to see you in the Madame Web trailer. Crazy. Nice job landing the role of Ezekiel Sims.
My friend and I saw this last night, I went in completely blind because I haven’t seen any of the movies, haven’t read any of the books (but I knew President Snow was a bad guy so I figured it was a villain origin story) she had seen and read all of the movies and books and we both thought it was really good . I guess now I gotta get into the hunger games series.
I mean I didn’t analyze the movie much and Tbf it did just end 11 hours ago so it hasn’t really marinated so maybe it won’t age great but overall it was a good time.
I agree about the ending feeling rushed. Great movie but it felt like the switch in snow was very sudden and his reasoning wasn’t very fulfilling
I saw the film last night and I do agree that the film really slowed down at that third act. But I disagree in the area and Lucy Grey. I was concerned at the start because of the accent, but think Ziegler did great job. Her best performance yet. And the thing that worked the most for me in that third act was her realising the man that Snow was becoming. That statement that Peter Dinklage made when she left, and what tigress says at the end really pulled that transformation together with those Forrest scenes. I wouldn’t say she was forgettable in any way. The person who I was most dissatisfied by was Dinklage. I know the character was a bit out of it. But the person who should such a burden never rely came across. Even at the end, he never really sold it.
That fake error message got me. FISSION MAILED, Jeremy.
Warning! Jumpscare at 5:13
What is that. Is that a new RUclips feature?
Thank you so much for this review. Now I will wait until it comes out on video. You are the best!
If anyone likes the book trust me it’s going to be amazing! It’s a very faithful adaptation but I personally I think it enhances the story by changing up a few things to make it more exciting!
Hell yes! I’m super excited. Read this book in a 4 hour car ride and I couldn’t put it down.
Never read the books, but enjoyed as a casual watcher
not true at all
@@kevinsolano3264did u even read the book? It was very loyal to it
It’s missing so much from the book
It’s pretty badass that Jeremy doesn’t spice his videos with ads like most other RUclips reviewers! Nothing wrong with doing that, great way to generate income, but still pretty badass!
This movie seems like a faithful adaptation because all your critique also applies to the book. That final act went from boring to super interesting but going at the speed of light so you fell like your almost missing everything interesting.
I was amazed by the camera work and lens choice in this film, made it much more cinematic than expected. Also absolutely loved Tom Blythe’s performance, immaculate performance and casting choice.
Why bother even making it. And having Rachel Zegler............WEIRD......WEIRD
This was filmed before the drama
@@oXRaptorzXo I know I was just being smart and Rachel Zeigler is box office poison anyway. She would actually turn me off watching any movie with her in it. Like Amber heard, brie larson and Ezra Miller
I read the book recently and saw the movie today, and the filmmakers did a very faithful adaptation of the novel - I liked that they showed more from Lucy Gray's point of view in the arena, since the book was entirely from Snow's perspective so events sometimes had to be pieced together later. I thought all the actors did a good job with their roles, with Tom Blyth definitely carrying the film and Rachel Zegler making her character very sympathetic (the book has more of her backstory so I may have been subconsciously filling that in while watching the movie). Viola Davis and Peter Dinklage of course were excellent, and Jason Schwartzman as Lucky Flickerman the weatherman/magician/Hunger Games announcer was hilarious.
I loved the movie over all ! Great character development, the cinematography was amazing with low angles everything seemed grandious
3:35 My childhood just flashed before my eyes as I am staring 40 in the face..:/
I think it’s a trait of Collins really.. if you read the original trilogy, the last book felt like she rushed the back third of it to meet a deadline or something. Maybe she’s just not a good closer. Idk
One of the main reasons why I like your reviews is that they make me laugh. This one was great 😂 Thank you!
The movie was FABULOUS! Acting was 10/10 all across the board and VFX wasn’t noticeable bad at all. You had really good representation of the book and the pacing holds up as much as it can when the lengthy runtime. Most people could enjoy this movie no matter what they no going in!
Damn, I was like RUclips can restrict a video whilst being viewed??? I didn’t know whether to be pissed or Impressed. Then I was like "...Oh." 😂 Fell for it.
Jennifer Lawrence has a beautiful yet relatable look and feel. When you see her cry, it feels like your sister, cousin, or the high school friend everyone loves is crying. This is why her frantic cry of "I volunteer" echoes through the collective consciousness of moviegoers. Ziegler feels like the drama kid who always gets her way. She may be nice to everyone, but behind it, everyone can't shake the feeling that she is fake AF.
You clearly have an axe to grind with her and you definitely don’t speak for everyone. Rachel does fantastic in the emotional scenes
@ganasde65 no she doesnt, she's an awful human and a terrible actress
@@ganasde65And you are undoubtedly one of those people saying modern Snow White looks great because it does away with that stalking Prince aspect. Yes we have an axe to grind with that train wreck, she’s the new Brie Larson.
@@Chronocritsy’all pathetic lmao. Pick real problems.
@@Chronocrits I don’t care about snow white because I wasn’t a fan of the original and I’m a grown man. Why do you care about it?
didn’t even know this was a movie coming out! i usually just receive word of movies that are out from your reviews so thanks!
6:35 I know he wasn't doing it on purpose, but I thought Jeremy giggling over his inability to say that admitted mouthful of a title was quite endearing. 😆🐦🐍
do not forget it's snow's POV the wholeeeee ass time, if he makes lucy looking manipulative because he was.
I thought this was really good and well made, its a long movie because it’s a long story, and it doesn’t waste time
Bro dropped the Don't be a menace... title in full, that's a man of culture. My boy!
4:11 " she just felt like dollar store katniss" 😂😂😂
...Kind of a stupid take tbh. She's not meant to be Katniss.
@@krustomerStill it was very funny xD
@@krustomerthat's part of the joke.
I liked this way more than the original ones. I love the politics in this. Or perhaps being a Star Wars fan, imagining Snow was a young Tarkin or young Hux.
Or a young Snoke.
I loved these books. It was always more than a surface level love triangle. 🤔
Movie title is so long, Jeremy forgot to add " - Movie Review" in the title for his video.
I'm finishing the audiobook. Didn't love it back when the book came out, but now I'm feeling it a little bit more. Let's see what the movie does.
The only issue I had with the audiobook was that they didn’t let Santino Fontana sing- the guy won a Tony for playing Tootsie, for Pete’s sake. Let him sing!
@@TardisGirl9 Right?!
7:01 "How does the last chapter feel so slow in its pacing yet so rushed and fast to its execution to the ending?"
Maybe it has something to do with Peter Dinklage being in it. He seems to have that effect.
The crappy drones was so cool 😊
5:10 I genuinely thought my internet stopped working at that moment
I don’t think Lucy is dollar store katniss in any way you would never find katniss performing and singing like Lucy does😭I knew those comments were gonna come though I’m gonna give it the benefit of the doubt bc I loved the book and I think I’m gonna love the whole movie too even the ending
That "Video unavailable" screen creeped me out a bit! Felt like a was living inside an analog horror video.
You got me for a minute Jeremey... well played haha
Censorsh
This movie was everything you’d expect from a modern Hollywood movie…let that sink in
The book is fantastic, highly recommended whether you are a fan or new to it. However, Jeremy's review only confirms my doubts about this adaptation.
I dunno it's quite literally an accurate adaptation. I'm thinking he maybe didn't like it cause he didn't read the book. Which CAN happen. Just look at Harry Potter. You definitely get MORE if you had read the books first.
As a huge fan of the books, this adaptation was more than I could have asked for. Saw it last night, it was incredible!
@@krustomerI hope not to spoiler it for anybody but I’m so curious because I haven’t seen anybody talk about it. Did they do the character Sejanus and what happens to him justice? Or was he undermined which I fear from the promotion?
@@clover2739 I know we were all afraid because of the promo, but his character is done well and given all his main beats ♥️
@@krustomer oh that’s good then! I was worried they’d really undermine his character when he’s almost as important or just as important to Snows development as Lucy Gray but we barley see him