So I keep coming back to this video on some data. I just wanted to say you did an excellent job on this. I hope many find it useful as I did. Awesome build on that tumbler to btw
Thanks man! I really appreciate it. I'm glad you're getting use out of it! I found that chart back in March and I just never got around to making a video on it. Wish I would have sooner.
I tried the powder coating based on your post. I first batch turned out ok, but needed more powder. Second batch much better. I shot the bullets through 9mm and .357 pistols. No leading and clean up was faster. I used black Airsoft BBs in the plastic bowl and shook for 30 secs. Baked for about 20 min at 400 degrees using a IR thermometer. I stood the bullets up on the base and water squench after the powder coating. Used Eastwood Ford light blue and no issues sizing through Lee push through sizer. Next going to coat 38 special wadcutters and .357 semi wadcutters and 9mm 124 grain. So far excellent coverage. Keep the vids coming.
Earlier today I was thinking about ways to increase static cling in your coating container and that idea of using a handful of plastic airsoft pellets came to mind. Has anyone tested that idea out yet? Not leaving them in there during bullet coating but just shaking them around in the container ahead of time to create some static...🤷🏼♂️ Also, while I'm commenting... has anyone tried other brands of powder coat. Sounds like Eastwood is decent...HF maybe not so much. Looking on line I've seen a brand called Prismatic Powders (I think) and Powder By the Pound (I think it was called). Any experience or feedback on other options and color recommendations...?
Gerry, I see a lot of guys do that on the Cast Boolits forum and they say that it helps. Worth a shot? Ive never tried it. In regards to different types of powder, Full.Lead.Taco uses Powder By The Pound and i think he really enjoys them. He has a channel here on YT.
Beside Ford light blue, I have the colors atomic pink, lime green and red wagon all from Eastwood. The atomic pink doesn’t seem to cover as well as the lime green and red wagon. The bullets I used for the pink are 230 lead grain for 45ACP. Maybe the heavier bullets need to be shaken longer. I think Tinman’s method of using the 4 inch uncoated PVC and a rock tumbler would definitely work. However, I don’t have a rock tumbler, I will check Amazon and Harbor Freight and see if I can find like what Tinman has, that’s not too expensive. One thing I do use when I handle the bullets before after I cast them is the latex gloves so I don’t get the oils from my hands on the bullets.
James Pollard I’ve tried both way shake and bake plus my Rotary Tumblr I like the tumbler because you can walk away and watch tv while your powder coating your bullets I’m just lazy
Your how and why background approach is beneficial. Also, the gentle release from container to basket is an asset, in my opinion, as well as is the RH factor. Thank you!
I clean my bullets in alcohol and lay them out to dry on a clean paper towel and use nitrile gloves to handle the bullets,I do clean the glove with a paper towel and alcohol before handling the bullets. Nice looking product you had at the end!
That's good to keep contaminates off the lead! I have had great luck with this method and haven't done it differently since I made this video. Thanks for watching!
Great Video! I Give the Boolits a quick soak in lacquer thinner and let them dry, careful not to handle them without gloves. Shake for about 10 seconds in a number 5 container and they are completely coated. The cleaning with lawyer thinner made a huge difference for me.
Great video, thanks. I like that you are willing to try something out whether it works or not rather than simply talking about it. BTW the list of static electricity substances is called the triboelectric series and Silicon is not the same as silicone. Silicon is the mineral used in semiconductors. Silicone is the rubbery stuff that is used in coatings and sprays. Your rock tumbler idea is very good. No need to shake your teeth out. Personally, I shake my teeth out with the bullets in a very sturdy #5 container and it only takes about 60 seconds to coat my bullets. Maybe a short 4" PVC homemade container would be more sturdy and longer lasting.
Thank you, Roy! I, myself, have gone back to the #5 shake and bake containers. I found that using the PVC tumbler put an excess of powder coating onto the ogive of the bullets and caused issues with chambering and seating depth. The PVC tube worked TOO well 🤣 Thank you for your reply!
Absolutely. A 10 foot stick of the 4 inch pipe was like, $20. The end caps get expensive though, Home Depot wanted $7 a piece. They can probably be found much cheaper somewhere else.
the Rubbermaid bowls that most of the buys are polyethylene which I have used myself and they are marginal of giving the bullets a static charge. I am going to make a pvc tumbler tube like you did. I will let you know how well it works. Thanks for the information.
I can powder coated in my garage while it's raining outside without issues getting Eastwood powders to stick with shake n' bake method. Lately I've been doing the stand up method because I toss about 8-12 BB's into my #5 container & 1 shipping peanut which gets broken up. If I just dump them into a basket, I'd have to pick that stuff out, but if I pick out the bullets to stand them up, then I just dump that stuff back into the container for the next batch. I literally only shake 20-30 seconds max. There are 2 things I do which I think make a big difference. I soak the bullets in acetone for 10-20 minutes to get them clean. Let that dry, then put the bullets in my hornady case dryer to warm them up. I think the warm bullets is the biggest key for me, because I used to not use the BB's and shipping peanut and still got good coverage, but it think it's slightly better with them. I thought of trying to build a PVC tumbler for my FA wet tumbler, but decided against it since shake n' bake so easy and still working for me.
I've always done shake and bake in a cottage cheese container and it's worked well for me. I've never used airsoft bb's though. I did have some troubles with Eastwood Lime green so maybe I'll try it now with the PVC tumbler. That's exactly what I was going to do too, make one for my FA wet tumbler base. But finding 8 inch PVC locally is almost impossible. Home depot had one 6 inch piece of pipe and zero fittings for it.
I haven't soaked the bullets in acetone but if I warm them it seems to make a big difference... although nothing I can do to get my Eastwood yellow to cover well...
@@ChrisKleinAuthor Yellows seem to present a definite challenge for everyone. I thought about trying some with the PVC tube but production is slow as of now. It's been 20 degrees out and that's no fun to cast in. Lol. Thanks for the sub!
I've never tried yellow, but I don't know of anyone that has found a good yellow. I've heard people complain about yellow with harbor freight and other brands as well. Haven't tried using a 2nd coat? I've done that with colors that's coat as well, and the 2nd coat usually does the trick.
the vibratory tumblers work beautifully as far as aplying the powder, it can be a bit messy when dumping the batch into the sifter though. a simple paint brush will usher remaining powder into a reclaimable pile when you want to change colors or use the tumbler to shine brass. a 1/8cup coffee scoop of powder will coat several hundred rounds of 125gr 9mm boolits.
@@TinManReloading I've coated several thousand rounds using the cheep harbor freight vibratory tumbler. i enjoy the reloading related videos, just wish the libtards of youtube wouldn't keep deleting peoples videos because they are firearm or reloading related.
I did in another video. A #2 plastic peanut butter jar gave me a .002" thick coating and the PVC gave me about a .005" coating I think. Not ideal to get a coating that thick, but it proved my theory. I did a video on it called Comparing Materials Used To Powder Coat if you want to check it out. Thanks, Thomas!
SilicONE is a rubbery substance used for sealing seams or cracks. Also formerly used in breast augmentation implants. SilicON is a powder that is often pressed together with a binder to create parts. It's most common use is in computer chips. Confusing these two would not work out well. ;-)
Great job Tinman but I need to know we’re you got your shaking tray from I really like it it looks nice and big and wide I have to say your really doing a great job sir
Tinman. Great video! Way to look at it from a scientific standpoint. I really want to get into bullet casting and am learning as I go. The one big question about the process is where to buy powder coat. I do not want to purchase something that may ruin my barrel. Any advice would be great.
Ozark Spirit I was thing the same thing Ozark but there’s nothing wrong with that if you have a filing cabinet like Uncle Jim has just store them in their upright and away you go
Thats a silicone baking mat I stole from my wife. Lol. Powder coat doesn't stick to it at all once they cool coming out of the oven, but they have to cool before they get taken off.
Thanks! No, I haven't. I've never tried Harbor Freight coating after hearing all of the troubles people have had. Eastwood Ford Light Blue is cheap enough. One pound will coat thousands of bullets. I like to buy a half pound for the container it comes in, then just refill the container from the one pound bags.
Ok, im just starting to cast and coat. I have that harbor freight red double tumbler. I did get HF yellow and use those black tmbler comtainers to tumble bullet and paint. Takes about 3 coats to get a decent coat.
TinMan, excellent info. I cast bullets in small batches depending on time available. I’m just for the powder to come in from Eastwood, so I could try powder coating. Any recommendations for a color beside Ford light blue? I’m staying away from Harbor Freight powder. I’d prefer quality powder. Keep the videos coming. Excellent presentation
Thanks, Tom! As far as colors go, I've tried Mirror Red and Lime Green from Eastwood, but the blue coats the best my far. Also, copper Vein was a good color that went on thinner than the blue but coated very well. Theres a fella named Smoke over on the cast boolits forum that sells powder too, but I havent really tried a huge variety. I realized that I didn't need a bunch of colors after I found the Ford Light Blue. It gives me great results every single time.
Good research. I also has a dehumidifier. When I don't use the dehumidifier my powder coating doesn't work as well. They still pass the hammer test. I think it's Elvis ammo's fault for the light Ford blue. I bet everyone has that in thier powder storage. I'm trying to get rid of mine buy using it. It just doesn't go away. I love the color but I think I have made 5,000,000 bullets on this one half pound. I have 3 other colors that are the same. I would love to have 100 colors but that would last for 4 generations. I may have to break down and get some Hemi Orange. I have owned several 426's and 392's and even a 331 hemi and the granddaddy Keith black 573 Hemi that we drag raced in the 80's. My dad had the fastest 4x4 Jeep ever. Too bad he was lucky to get a run out of a transfer case. We called them handgrenades. They were going to blow up. My dad worked at Chrysler in Belvidere IL back in the 60's and was a complete mad scientist when it came to motors and anything. He even put a hemi in a pontoon boat. . This isn't about cars. I think you are going to reignite the powder coating search again. I know you have me thinking. I'm trying to figure out how to stand rifle bullets up on end. I'm thinking of just coating them with the shake and bake them sticking them into a board with holes in it covered in tinfoil and using harbor freight's powder coating sprayer and re do them so the tips are a different color. To really the tops of the bullets don't need coating just the driving bands. It would make them look cool. Do I want to spend the money cool is the question.
Thanks! I figure humidity comes into play because in the wintertime, people run humidifiers to put moisture in the air in their homes. Otherwise you get shocked just from walking across the carpet or taking your shirt off. I do love the Ford light blue. Man, I wish I had cars like that! I had a 2005 Grand Prix with an LS4 in it. That thing was fast but the Achilles heel was their transmissions. Parts were hard to find and expensive for it too because it was the GXP. Do you think a block of wood with tin foil over it could be used in your toaster oven with the shake and bake method instead if the sprayer gun? Then you wouldn't have to pick up a powder coating gun. I'd be interested to see that. I'm just a state away from you and 243 Outdoors. Im right on the border of Iowa and Illinois.
You have to use tinfoil so you can ground out the bullets when you spray them so the powder will stick to them. I never thought of putting wood in my oven. I'm sure that would start a fire. I could trust some sheet aluminum I have to drill the holes in. I'm thinking it is a big waist of time to have pretty bullets that I'm going to shoot.
I gotcha. I thought you meant using the wood with holes in it to stand your rifle bullets up after you shake and bake them. There's a few videos of guys that use the powder coating gun like you said. I don't remember the creators off the top of my head though.
The powder coating stays on the bullets. No need to recoat after sizing! As long as the coating isnt way too thick it works like a dream. Thanks for the sub!
I'm sure you will have the same results with a plastic peanut butter or mayo jar that fits your tumbler . I use a rock tumbler that has a plastic housing and it works great for PC'ing .
I could give that a shot today. That would certainly be easier than making a PVC tube. Good idea. I actually have a peanut butter jar on my shelf by the bench.
The real question is, is this faster than lubrasizing? Not sure why everyone seems to PC these days... I have never casted, but I have always just loaded lubed cast bullets with basically no leading assuming the BHN isn’t like WAY off. 🤷🏻♂️ Interesting concept, brought back some nightmares from chemistry!! Lol
Honestly, I've never run a lubrasizer. The main reason I got into powder coating was the appeal that I didnt have to spend $170 on another machine and worry about getting the different sizing inserts for one. Powder coating is cheap and it helps avoid direct contact of lead to barrel. Some say velocities average around 30-50 fps faster with powder coated bullets using the same loads as traditionally lubed cast bullets but I cant comment on that. No chrono yet. Have you ever tried shooting powder coated bullets? I'd be happy to send you some if you'd like to try them.
Ok using a lubrasizer is faster but it is so dang messy you get the lube on your fingers and in your reloading dies and don’t for get the lucky people ho have a silencer the lube makes a mess inside there can it’s so easy to powder coat plus there really is no mess and you can almost treat your powder coated bullets as a jacketed bullet for load development this is just my option sorry for bad spelling and grammar
Hey Nathan! I forgot about the Mythbusters episode where they did that. I loved that show. I use Eastwood powders and bake at 400 degrees for 20 minutes per their directions. One thing to note is that this builds up a huge coating, so I started using tweezers to grab the bullets from a tray and tap my tweezers against my pan to knock excess powder off each bullet before I stand them up to bake them. This takes some more time, but they size a LOT easier and if the coating is too thick it will chip off during sizing.
I did a video called Powder Coating OCD if youd like to check that out. I show the tweezer method coined by Charlie Irby in that vid. Thanks for watching!
Ok ,so I heard you going back,forth on that .do you think it help ,or do you think it made no difference from shake,and bake. I have never used a tumblr.
It did seem to make the powder stick a little better. I haven't had many problems using the shake and bake, but this did seem to put a thicker coat on and more evenly. I haven't had the best luck with the lime green from Eastwood, for instance. It coated decent enough but it was splotchy looking. I tried again with the PVC tube and they came out much better. Not saying the container method doesn't work, but for those that have trouble with it, this has worked very well for me. Sorry if I contradicted myself! I should have made notes on what to say.
I guess the main reason I didnt want to say this is better than the shake and bake is because other people might not have the same luck I did with it. So I'll say this: For me, this worked better!
Pre-heat your bullets at 140 degrees for 5 or 6 minutes prior to tumbling. Don't handle bullets with bare hands use gloves. We don't want contaminates on the projectiles.
Ok, your science ruined it for me. All this time I thought I had a magic cool whip bowl🤣. Just kidding, This is good info. I’m gonna try the pvc tumbler👍🏻🇺🇸
Lol! Who's to say your cool whip bowl isn't magical? Let us know how it works out! I'm thinking the main reason this could be used is for troublesome powders we cant seem to get to stick. I had a couple issues with the lime green from eastwood and I might try it again with this.
Spray the bullets with silicone spray or the inside of the pvc. Or wipe on liquid silicon lube inside the tube and let it dry maybe. Let it dry then you have silicone and pvc working on them. Maybe that’ll work. I’ve done this silicone spray and dip method I saw on here someplace and it worked well. See what both does...
This looks fantastic! I use my vibration tumbler but have to put an empty 5 gallon bucket over it to keep the darn dust down. Thank you for this tip!
Thanks for watching! You’re welcome 👍🏻
good info. thanks
So I keep coming back to this video on some data. I just wanted to say you did an excellent job on this. I hope many find it useful as I did. Awesome build on that tumbler to btw
Thanks man! I really appreciate it. I'm glad you're getting use out of it! I found that chart back in March and I just never got around to making a video on it. Wish I would have sooner.
I tried the powder coating based on your post. I first batch turned out ok, but needed more powder. Second batch much better. I shot the bullets through 9mm and .357 pistols. No leading and clean up was faster. I used black Airsoft BBs in the plastic bowl and shook for 30 secs. Baked for about 20 min at 400 degrees using a IR thermometer. I stood the bullets up on the base and water squench after the powder coating. Used Eastwood Ford light blue and no issues sizing through Lee push through sizer. Next going to coat 38 special wadcutters and .357 semi wadcutters and 9mm 124 grain. So far excellent coverage. Keep the vids coming.
Glad to hear it, Tom! Thank you for your feedback. I love the Ford light blue powder. Keep up the good work my friend!
Earlier today I was thinking about ways to increase static cling in your coating container and that idea of using a handful of plastic airsoft pellets came to mind. Has anyone tested that idea out yet? Not leaving them in there during bullet coating but just shaking them around in the container ahead of time to create some static...🤷🏼♂️
Also, while I'm commenting... has anyone tried other brands of powder coat. Sounds like Eastwood is decent...HF maybe not so much. Looking on line I've seen a brand called Prismatic Powders (I think) and Powder By the Pound (I think it was called). Any experience or feedback on other options and color recommendations...?
Gerry, I see a lot of guys do that on the Cast Boolits forum and they say that it helps. Worth a shot? Ive never tried it. In regards to different types of powder, Full.Lead.Taco uses Powder By The Pound and i think he really enjoys them. He has a channel here on YT.
Beside Ford light blue, I have the colors atomic pink, lime green and red wagon all from Eastwood. The atomic pink doesn’t seem to cover as well as the lime green and red wagon. The bullets I used for the pink are 230 lead grain for 45ACP. Maybe the heavier bullets need to be shaken longer. I think Tinman’s method of using the 4 inch uncoated PVC and a rock tumbler would definitely work. However, I don’t have a rock tumbler, I will check Amazon and Harbor Freight and see if I can find like what Tinman has, that’s not too expensive. One thing I do use when I handle the bullets before after I cast them is the latex gloves so I don’t get the oils from my hands on the bullets.
The rotary tumbler with a plastic housing is my go to way of PC'ing . Good stuff .
James Pollard I’ve tried both way shake and bake plus my Rotary Tumblr I like the tumbler because you can walk away and watch tv while your powder coating your bullets I’m just lazy
@@williebulletman5217 Not lazy , efficient , lol
Your how and why background approach is beneficial. Also, the gentle release from container to basket is an asset, in my opinion, as well as is the RH factor. Thank you!
I appreciate your research and innovation. Great video, TInMan.👍
Thanks, JCM. Much appreciated!
I clean my bullets in alcohol and lay them out to dry on a clean paper towel and use nitrile gloves to handle the bullets,I do clean the glove with a paper towel and alcohol before handling the bullets.
Nice looking product you had at the end!
That's good to keep contaminates off the lead! I have had great luck with this method and haven't done it differently since I made this video. Thanks for watching!
TinMan I have only powder coated maybe 300 bullets so I am new to this still. One thing I liked is that you got to the point.
Have a great day!
Great Video! I Give the Boolits a quick soak in lacquer thinner and let them dry, careful not to handle them without gloves. Shake for about 10 seconds in a number 5 container and they are completely coated. The cleaning with lawyer thinner made a huge difference for me.
Great video, thanks. I like that you are willing to try something out whether it works or not rather than simply talking about it. BTW the list of static electricity substances is called the triboelectric series and Silicon is not the same as silicone. Silicon is the mineral used in semiconductors. Silicone is the rubbery stuff that is used in coatings and sprays. Your rock tumbler idea is very good. No need to shake your teeth out. Personally, I shake my teeth out with the bullets in a very sturdy #5 container and it only takes about 60 seconds to coat my bullets. Maybe a short 4" PVC homemade container would be more sturdy and longer lasting.
Thank you, Roy! I, myself, have gone back to the #5 shake and bake containers. I found that using the PVC tumbler put an excess of powder coating onto the ogive of the bullets and caused issues with chambering and seating depth. The PVC tube worked TOO well 🤣 Thank you for your reply!
Great job, thumbs up. I am looking for a good container for ages, this looks like a job well done. Thanks for the vid.
Thank you! I hope this helps you out 👍👍👍
Now I can double up use some of the PVC for brass and some for PC great vid thx for sharing
Absolutely. A 10 foot stick of the 4 inch pipe was like, $20. The end caps get expensive though, Home Depot wanted $7 a piece. They can probably be found much cheaper somewhere else.
Very clever. Thank you for sharing your research!
Thank you! I appreciate the feedback! Hope this may help you.
the Rubbermaid bowls that most of the buys are polyethylene which I have used myself and they are marginal of giving the bullets a static charge. I am going to make a pvc tumbler tube like you did. I will let you know how well it works. Thanks for the information.
You can use a regular bowl with tight lid and powder coat and shake the bowl up
Youre right. I do that frequently for smaller batches.
I can powder coated in my garage while it's raining outside without issues getting Eastwood powders to stick with shake n' bake method. Lately I've been doing the stand up method because I toss about 8-12 BB's into my #5 container & 1 shipping peanut which gets broken up. If I just dump them into a basket, I'd have to pick that stuff out, but if I pick out the bullets to stand them up, then I just dump that stuff back into the container for the next batch. I literally only shake 20-30 seconds max. There are 2 things I do which I think make a big difference. I soak the bullets in acetone for 10-20 minutes to get them clean. Let that dry, then put the bullets in my hornady case dryer to warm them up. I think the warm bullets is the biggest key for me, because I used to not use the BB's and shipping peanut and still got good coverage, but it think it's slightly better with them. I thought of trying to build a PVC tumbler for my FA wet tumbler, but decided against it since shake n' bake so easy and still working for me.
I've always done shake and bake in a cottage cheese container and it's worked well for me. I've never used airsoft bb's though. I did have some troubles with Eastwood Lime green so maybe I'll try it now with the PVC tumbler. That's exactly what I was going to do too, make one for my FA wet tumbler base. But finding 8 inch PVC locally is almost impossible. Home depot had one 6 inch piece of pipe and zero fittings for it.
I haven't soaked the bullets in acetone but if I warm them it seems to make a big difference... although nothing I can do to get my Eastwood yellow to cover well...
@@ChrisKleinAuthor Yellows seem to present a definite challenge for everyone. I thought about trying some with the PVC tube but production is slow as of now. It's been 20 degrees out and that's no fun to cast in. Lol. Thanks for the sub!
I've never tried yellow, but I don't know of anyone that has found a good yellow. I've heard people complain about yellow with harbor freight and other brands as well. Haven't tried using a 2nd coat? I've done that with colors that's coat as well, and the 2nd coat usually does the trick.
CrankyCleatus yes sir a slightly warm lead bullet is the key but just lightly too much heat and the powder coat will stick like crazy
the vibratory tumblers work beautifully as far as aplying the powder, it can be a bit messy when dumping the batch into the sifter though. a simple paint brush will usher remaining powder into a reclaimable pile when you want to change colors or use the tumbler to shine brass. a 1/8cup coffee scoop of powder will coat several hundred rounds of 125gr 9mm boolits.
I havent tried the vibratory tumbler. Good tip! I agree that a little powder goes a long way. Thank you for watching! 👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸
@@TinManReloading I've coated several thousand rounds using the cheep harbor freight vibratory tumbler. i enjoy the reloading related videos, just wish the libtards of youtube wouldn't keep deleting peoples videos because they are firearm or reloading related.
Looks good. Did you use a Caliper on bullets before and after powder coating.
I did in another video. A #2 plastic peanut butter jar gave me a .002" thick coating and the PVC gave me about a .005" coating I think. Not ideal to get a coating that thick, but it proved my theory. I did a video on it called Comparing Materials Used To Powder Coat if you want to check it out. Thanks, Thomas!
Good stuff. Thanks for the education!
Thanks, Rich!
SilicONE is a rubbery substance used for sealing seams or cracks. Also formerly used in breast augmentation implants.
SilicON is a powder that is often pressed together with a binder to create parts. It's most common use is in computer chips.
Confusing these two would not work out well. ;-)
Thank you for clearing that up! I see how you wouldn't want to confuse the two 🤣
Thank You Sir! This is a great idea!
Would one of those silicone collapsible water bottles work?
Great job Tinman but I need to know we’re you got your shaking tray from I really like it it looks nice and big and wide I have to say your really doing a great job sir
Thanks Willie! I got it at Walmart. It was over by the cookie sheets and stuff. I think it was $5
Tinman. Great video! Way to look at it from a scientific standpoint. I really want to get into bullet casting and am learning as I go. The one big question about the process is where to buy powder coat. I do not want to purchase something that may ruin my barrel. Any advice would be great.
Eastwood is a great source. Their color called "Ford Light Blue" is a gold standard among bullet casters.
Just about to have a tube for each color it seems.
Good thing I only have three colors! Lol.
Ozark Spirit I was thing the same thing Ozark but there’s nothing wrong with that if you have a filing cabinet like Uncle Jim has just store them in their upright and away you go
Great tip that’s awesome 👍👍
Thanks, Ocean!
Excellent Excellent research.
Thanks, David!
What is the grating material that you're putting in the bottom of the pan when you put them in the oven
Thats a silicone baking mat I stole from my wife. Lol. Powder coat doesn't stick to it at all once they cool coming out of the oven, but they have to cool before they get taken off.
Is there a difference between silicon and silicone?
Great vid! Very informative.
I'm not exactly sure on that. That's a good question! Thank you, lifelong learner!
@@TinManReloading Silicon is what the CPU in your computer is made out of. Silicone is what marital aids are made of.
I love my Ford light blue..... my go to powder
Yes sir! No reason to use another powder. I use it exclusively anymore.
Nice work! Have you tried this method using jarbir freight powder paint particularly the white paint?
Thanks! No, I haven't. I've never tried Harbor Freight coating after hearing all of the troubles people have had. Eastwood Ford Light Blue is cheap enough. One pound will coat thousands of bullets. I like to buy a half pound for the container it comes in, then just refill the container from the one pound bags.
Ok, im just starting to cast and coat. I have that harbor freight red double tumbler. I did get HF yellow and use those black tmbler comtainers to tumble bullet and paint. Takes about 3 coats to get a decent coat.
If you want to try Teflon or silicone, buy a Teflon or silicone "non stick" oven mat and glue it to the inside surface of your container.
That would be an interesting test! Silicon would help the bullets tumble better too.
@@TinManReloading Silicone is not Silicon, not even close.
TinMan, excellent info. I cast bullets in small batches depending on time available. I’m just for the powder to come in from Eastwood, so I could try powder coating. Any recommendations for a color beside Ford light blue? I’m staying away from Harbor Freight powder. I’d prefer quality powder. Keep the videos coming. Excellent presentation
Thanks, Tom! As far as colors go, I've tried Mirror Red and Lime Green from Eastwood, but the blue coats the best my far. Also, copper Vein was a good color that went on thinner than the blue but coated very well. Theres a fella named Smoke over on the cast boolits forum that sells powder too, but I havent really tried a huge variety. I realized that I didn't need a bunch of colors after I found the Ford Light Blue. It gives me great results every single time.
Dang Tin.. to the next emeth! (spell check)
Tinman great video..
I'm with you man but all the science way over my head i just put em in a bowl and swirl them around till there coated
I went back to doing that too. Lol. I started doing 300BLK bullets and the coating from the PVC was too thick.
@@TinManReloading Interesting tidbit.
Good research. I also has a dehumidifier. When I don't use the dehumidifier my powder coating doesn't work as well. They still pass the hammer test. I think it's Elvis ammo's fault for the light Ford blue. I bet everyone has that in thier powder storage. I'm trying to get rid of mine buy using it. It just doesn't go away. I love the color but I think I have made 5,000,000 bullets on this one half pound. I have 3 other colors that are the same. I would love to have 100 colors but that would last for 4 generations. I may have to break down and get some Hemi Orange. I have owned several 426's and 392's and even a 331 hemi and the granddaddy Keith black 573 Hemi that we drag raced in the 80's. My dad had the fastest 4x4 Jeep ever. Too bad he was lucky to get a run out of a transfer case. We called them handgrenades. They were going to blow up. My dad worked at Chrysler in Belvidere IL back in the 60's and was a complete mad scientist when it came to motors and anything. He even put a hemi in a pontoon boat. . This isn't about cars. I think you are going to reignite the powder coating search again. I know you have me thinking. I'm trying to figure out how to stand rifle bullets up on end. I'm thinking of just coating them with the shake and bake them sticking them into a board with holes in it covered in tinfoil and using harbor freight's powder coating sprayer and re do them so the tips are a different color. To really the tops of the bullets don't need coating just the driving bands. It would make them look cool. Do I want to spend the money cool is the question.
Thanks! I figure humidity comes into play because in the wintertime, people run humidifiers to put moisture in the air in their homes. Otherwise you get shocked just from walking across the carpet or taking your shirt off. I do love the Ford light blue. Man, I wish I had cars like that! I had a 2005 Grand Prix with an LS4 in it. That thing was fast but the Achilles heel was their transmissions. Parts were hard to find and expensive for it too because it was the GXP. Do you think a block of wood with tin foil over it could be used in your toaster oven with the shake and bake method instead if the sprayer gun? Then you wouldn't have to pick up a powder coating gun. I'd be interested to see that. I'm just a state away from you and 243 Outdoors. Im right on the border of Iowa and Illinois.
You have to use tinfoil so you can ground out the bullets when you spray them so the powder will stick to them. I never thought of putting wood in my oven. I'm sure that would start a fire. I could trust some sheet aluminum I have to drill the holes in. I'm thinking it is a big waist of time to have pretty bullets that I'm going to shoot.
I gotcha. I thought you meant using the wood with holes in it to stand your rifle bullets up after you shake and bake them. There's a few videos of guys that use the powder coating gun like you said. I don't remember the creators off the top of my head though.
I'm still waiting for your "Understanding the chemistry of Hi-Tek coating bullets" video :)
I understand I can't do it 🤣
Do you lose a lot of powder coating when you size them?? Do you recoat them again afterwards?
The powder coating stays on the bullets. No need to recoat after sizing! As long as the coating isnt way too thick it works like a dream. Thanks for the sub!
THANK YOU!!!!
I'm sure you will have the same results with a plastic peanut butter or mayo jar that fits your tumbler . I use a rock tumbler that has a plastic housing and it works great for PC'ing .
I could give that a shot today. That would certainly be easier than making a PVC tube. Good idea. I actually have a peanut butter jar on my shelf by the bench.
The real question is, is this faster than lubrasizing? Not sure why everyone seems to PC these days... I have never casted, but I have always just loaded lubed cast bullets with basically no leading assuming the BHN isn’t like WAY off. 🤷🏻♂️ Interesting concept, brought back some nightmares from chemistry!! Lol
Honestly, I've never run a lubrasizer. The main reason I got into powder coating was the appeal that I didnt have to spend $170 on another machine and worry about getting the different sizing inserts for one. Powder coating is cheap and it helps avoid direct contact of lead to barrel. Some say velocities average around 30-50 fps faster with powder coated bullets using the same loads as traditionally lubed cast bullets but I cant comment on that. No chrono yet. Have you ever tried shooting powder coated bullets? I'd be happy to send you some if you'd like to try them.
I'm on slack if you'd rather PM me on there!
Ok using a lubrasizer is faster but it is so dang messy you get the lube on your fingers and in your reloading dies and don’t for get the lucky people ho have a silencer the lube makes a mess inside there can it’s so easy to powder coat plus there really is no mess and you can almost treat your powder coated bullets as a jacketed bullet for load development this is just my option sorry for bad spelling and grammar
Willie Bulletman ...no worries, thanks for the info! 👍🏻
I was thinking about using PVC because I remembered Myth Busters were getting a huge static charge from it. What was your bake time and temp?
Hey Nathan! I forgot about the Mythbusters episode where they did that. I loved that show. I use Eastwood powders and bake at 400 degrees for 20 minutes per their directions. One thing to note is that this builds up a huge coating, so I started using tweezers to grab the bullets from a tray and tap my tweezers against my pan to knock excess powder off each bullet before I stand them up to bake them. This takes some more time, but they size a LOT easier and if the coating is too thick it will chip off during sizing.
I did a video called Powder Coating OCD if youd like to check that out. I show the tweezer method coined by Charlie Irby in that vid. Thanks for watching!
Ok ,so I heard you going back,forth on that .do you think it help ,or do you think it made no difference from shake,and bake. I have never used a tumblr.
It did seem to make the powder stick a little better. I haven't had many problems using the shake and bake, but this did seem to put a thicker coat on and more evenly. I haven't had the best luck with the lime green from Eastwood, for instance. It coated decent enough but it was splotchy looking. I tried again with the PVC tube and they came out much better. Not saying the container method doesn't work, but for those that have trouble with it, this has worked very well for me. Sorry if I contradicted myself! I should have made notes on what to say.
I guess the main reason I didnt want to say this is better than the shake and bake is because other people might not have the same luck I did with it. So I'll say this: For me, this worked better!
@@TinManReloading thank you sir 👍👍
Anytime, brother! I just shot a real quick video comparing my previous attempts at lime green to the PVC method. I'll upload it here in a few minutes!
@@TinManReloading 👍👍
Pre-heat your bullets at 140 degrees for 5 or 6 minutes prior to tumbling. Don't handle bullets with bare hands use gloves. We don't want contaminates on the projectiles.
Ok, your science ruined it for me. All this time I thought I had a magic cool whip bowl🤣. Just kidding, This is good info. I’m gonna try the pvc tumbler👍🏻🇺🇸
Lol! Who's to say your cool whip bowl isn't magical? Let us know how it works out! I'm thinking the main reason this could be used is for troublesome powders we cant seem to get to stick. I had a couple issues with the lime green from eastwood and I might try it again with this.
Spray the bullets with silicone spray or the inside of the pvc. Or wipe on liquid silicon lube inside the tube and let it dry maybe. Let it dry then you have silicone and pvc working on them. Maybe that’ll work. I’ve done this silicone spray and dip method I saw on here someplace and it worked well. See what both does...
Never thought of the silicone spray. That's a good idea. Might have to try that! Thanks 👍