@@bryancantrell1138 Honestly, I was surprised that there was so much more overall power (total joules of all shots) with the disk in. You would think it would have been about the same with the same amount of CO2. Goes to show how much power you loose by the more rapid cooling of the CO2 like that. At least I would assume that's the issue. I know if you take the exact same setup and fire a shot a minute or a shot a second, you'll get way more overall power with the slow shots. Same principle I'm sure
I will be following this video when I mod my new HDB68 Thanks. BTW I just got a used HDS68 16 joule that works great except that the trigger pull is very heavy 12-18 lbs..Any ideas? Thanks Chas
Hey DK Thanks alot for the video! I hate to bug you with one more question but I'm wanting to put my remote line which has a slide check for degassing which will mount an 88/90 gram CO2 on my hdb. I haven't used it because I'm not sure if I should use it with or without a restricter disc and if the push in disc will even stay in without a 12gram in. No valve restricter ofcourse. Any advice please kind sir? Same situation with my HDR68. I dnt want to screw it up
@@FLAlesslethal it should stay in easy in the grip. No difference. I would think you might still need it. Not going to hurt to test both ways though. With an 88/90 might not need it though. If it finishes the mag, which it may, that's a lot of CO2. But, to be picky, if you removed the entire valve block, it's not going to shoot at all unless you mean you removed the restrictor in the valve block, not the entire valve block. Too many people saying that wrong for some reason, got to set em straight 😉. The valve block is the entire assembly that the actual valve sits in, the restrictor is in the back of the valve block, that is the only part you remove
@@DK-Spencer My bad bud, I am saying if the the restricter is removed. Should I put a drilled out or tuning restricter disc in if I'm using a remote line out the handle with an 88/90grm CO2? I'm scared of it messing it up and honestly bro I really don't feel like taking another marker apart(time nor money) I just want to run the 88grm without it farting that's why I'm asking about the restricter disc. If it doesn't fart it should be a bit more power and more shots. I just figured you would have some knowledge on this... It's so cool though to have a remote line with degasser on it 🤔👉💨💥
@@FLAlesslethal That's what I was saying, the disk may or may not matter with that much CO2 . You use the disk to keep from running out of CO2 too early with 12g. With 88 or 90 you will probably have enough to last. It's not going to hurt to test it both ways and see. Obviously, you will remove the valve block restrictor either way. But the disk in the handle is the one I'm saying you may not need to use. I can test one today for you probably just to see if I can find all the stuff I need here. I'm sure I've got it all, lol
So one is amazing without the disc such high numbers I got. However with the pop in disc with the oring it did pop out after a bit of shots. Also the spring and noise from no disc on one is just crazy rattling and just sounds like it's going to fly out. Now what's crazy also is the TR50 was working fine no disc 88gram CO2. Hhhhmmm weird!
@@noobt4eguns I've never had a 16g but My understanding is that it does not have the restrictor in the valve block or it has a smaller one and it already has a disc restrictor in the handle. The pin is the same Im almost positive
@@DK-Spencer the 16joules version have aluminum valve block with small hole in it. Have also disc valve(restrictor) with same threads like the HDR 50 11J ,HDR 68 16J.
@@DK-Spencer In Cyprus we don't have any Umarex paintball marker 7.5 joules and am curious why you have the 7.5 joules version. We have also the HDX68 40 Joules
I am getting ready to do this mod, got just the disk from XXX -24, but need to know what size Phillips screwdriver bit size to use. PH0-2.0, PH1-2.5 or 3.0 ?? All the heads I have are too short 1/2" and won't go down inside the HDB far enough. So need to buy..Thanks
What you are calling "valve block" I call a restrictor, because it does not block the valve, it just restricts it some. I know some people call it that, but I don't. So, what you are calling Valve block is for sure removed or it would be like 7 joules. the point of the video was to test the restrictor disk in the handle in and out.
@@DK-Spencer i asked you if you tried the HDB68 with out the disc valve(restrictor) on CO2 12g. And i said also obviously the valve block from air chamber its removed.
Nice video and test as always Daniel. Take care my friend and have a great weekend 😃
Good test. I, like you would rate have a bit less power but spread out over more shots. Keep the disk in. Love this one.
@@bryancantrell1138 Honestly, I was surprised that there was so much more overall power (total joules of all shots) with the disk in. You would think it would have been about the same with the same amount of CO2. Goes to show how much power you loose by the more rapid cooling of the CO2 like that. At least I would assume that's the issue. I know if you take the exact same setup and fire a shot a minute or a shot a second, you'll get way more overall power with the slow shots. Same principle I'm sure
Impressive, bro
Thanks bro good to know. I’ll try it without the disc and pick one up later.
Great video brother!
Good way of showing it. Guess it depends on how good a shot you are 🎯 or think you are 😅
I'm sure someone would take half the shots and way less overall power for those first two stronger shots. But, for me, I have common sense, lol.
I will be following this video when I mod my new HDB68 Thanks. BTW I just got a used HDS68 16 joule that works great except that the trigger pull is very heavy 12-18 lbs..Any ideas? Thanks Chas
@@charlesgreen5077 Odd, not right off. Have not had one of those open for years and never had that problem before.
Hey DK Thanks alot for the video! I hate to bug you with one more question but I'm wanting to put my remote line which has a slide check for degassing which will mount an 88/90 gram CO2 on my hdb. I haven't used it because I'm not sure if I should use it with or without a restricter disc and if the push in disc will even stay in without a 12gram in. No valve restricter ofcourse. Any advice please kind sir? Same situation with my HDR68. I dnt want to screw it up
@@FLAlesslethal it should stay in easy in the grip. No difference. I would think you might still need it. Not going to hurt to test both ways though. With an 88/90 might not need it though. If it finishes the mag, which it may, that's a lot of CO2.
But, to be picky, if you removed the entire valve block, it's not going to shoot at all unless you mean you removed the restrictor in the valve block, not the entire valve block. Too many people saying that wrong for some reason, got to set em straight 😉. The valve block is the entire assembly that the actual valve sits in, the restrictor is in the back of the valve block, that is the only part you remove
@@DK-Spencer My bad bud, I am saying if the the restricter is removed. Should I put a drilled out or tuning restricter disc in if I'm using a remote line out the handle with an 88/90grm CO2? I'm scared of it messing it up and honestly bro I really don't feel like taking another marker apart(time nor money) I just want to run the 88grm without it farting that's why I'm asking about the restricter disc. If it doesn't fart it should be a bit more power and more shots. I just figured you would have some knowledge on this... It's so cool though to have a remote line with degasser on it
🤔👉💨💥
@@FLAlesslethal That's what I was saying, the disk may or may not matter with that much CO2 . You use the disk to keep from running out of CO2 too early with 12g. With 88 or 90 you will probably have enough to last. It's not going to hurt to test it both ways and see. Obviously, you will remove the valve block restrictor either way. But the disk in the handle is the one I'm saying you may not need to use. I can test one today for you probably just to see if I can find all the stuff I need here. I'm sure I've got it all, lol
So one is amazing without the disc such high numbers I got. However with the pop in disc with the oring it did pop out after a bit of shots. Also the spring and noise from no disc on one is just crazy rattling and just sounds like it's going to fly out. Now what's crazy also is the TR50 was working fine no disc 88gram CO2. Hhhhmmm weird!
So for the cost of that airgun Leshy u can get a whole LL arsenal 😅great stuff DK so hdb over the hdx ?
Depends. It costs about the same as a custom VKS. I would say HDX for CO2, HDB for air, honestly
@DKSpencerNon-FirearmBallistics thanks pard 💯💪🏼💥💥💥
Yes this video i wanted to see.Thank you
The original pin valve on 7.5J its same on 16j version?
@@noobt4eguns I've never had a 16g but My understanding is that it does not have the restrictor in the valve block or it has a smaller one and it already has a disc restrictor in the handle. The pin is the same Im almost positive
@@DK-Spencer the 16joules version have aluminum valve block with small hole in it.
Have also disc valve(restrictor) with same threads like the HDR 50 11J ,HDR 68 16J.
@@DK-Spencer In Cyprus we don't have any Umarex paintball marker 7.5 joules and am curious why you have the 7.5 joules version.
We have also the HDX68 40 Joules
I am getting ready to do this mod, got just the disk from XXX -24, but need to know what size Phillips screwdriver bit size to use. PH0-2.0, PH1-2.5 or 3.0 ?? All the heads I have are too short 1/2" and won't go down inside the HDB far enough. So need to buy..Thanks
PH1
But they make the long skinny ones for stuff like this, a standard short bit won't fit
You can buy the disk separately now for 23 euros, pin and disk 34 euros plus 9 euros shipping. Well someone needed to get rich foff paintball guns!
@@charlesgreen5077 😂😂😂 that's cool, thanks for the info. I haven't seen them separate before. HD24?
You tried with out restrictor on CO2 12g ?and for sure valve block removed
@@noobt4eguns ruclips.net/video/JjG5Ga2T5EY/видео.html
What you are calling "valve block" I call a restrictor, because it does not block the valve, it just restricts it some. I know some people call it that, but I don't. So, what you are calling Valve block is for sure removed or it would be like 7 joules. the point of the video was to test the restrictor disk in the handle in and out.
@@DK-Spencer no i said it correct but the way i wrote must be wrong😅
@@DK-Spencer i asked you if you tried the HDB68 with out the disc valve(restrictor) on CO2 12g.
And i said also obviously the valve block from air chamber its removed.
@@noobt4eguns That was the entire point of the video