We can float down the Rivers Now (Civ 7 Gameplay Reaction)
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- I think the thumbnail sums up my overall feelings, but I'm definitely not all negative. Hopefully some of these concerns can be alleviated during the coming months as the release gets closer for us. What do you think? Were you happy with the reveal or not?
Come find out exactly what has me so concerned about the latest edition in my beloved Civilization Franchise.
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Can your civ stand the test of time in Sid Meirs Civilization VII?
Yes, until I hit the next era 😩
🤭you're killing me here lmfao
"Beware of beautiful (unreadable) artwork for it masks the ugliness of gameplay." - Prophet Mip, Assur, 2865 BC
That's the most philosophical burn I've ever read lol
"We were searching for the next big challenge to take on. 3 decades later-" we decided to take a dump all over our flagship video game series and see if people will still buy it!
😂 they're going for a science victory running an elaborate experiment on human spending habits
For Civ to change up like this, Humankind must have a pretty large market share!!!🤣
😂 im dying over here lmfao
I don't think the UI text should be so small - if I have to squint to read text, I often can't be bothered to. The small text is made worse by making it white on grey.
It does significantly detract from the aesthetics of the game, and I don't think they will change it prior to release.
As for the changing ages and civilisations, I think Firaxis will handle this well - there's only 3 ages, and they're not letting players simply morph from Celts to Indians - it looks like there's some continuity and preconditions to it.
Yeah I'm actually excited for the changing of ages the way they have it-- totally pumped. But it's the Humankind aspect of it that has a sour taste in my mouth.
I'm cautiously optimistic they'll pull it off
They should have a ui scale option. It's become very common in games since 4k started to be adopted
@@Endermage1244 if im being honest i dont know what a ui scale option is.. you mean quality of the textures?
These dudes love their khaki pants, don't they?
Were they all wearing khakis in the video??!? i didnt notice lmao
Great analysis, Grampz… Good to have you back!
@@SirDucksLancelot thanks Lancelot it’s good to be back and good to see you found your way here after all these years 🥰🍺
Back here I meant 😂
Every time they show gameplay I can't help but think that it looks way too urban. Cities and districts taking up 70%-80% of the area of your empire. Where is all the farmland? The forests? The mines?
Looks better than civ 6 but worse than civ 5
I see your point, but at the same time-- we've only seen snippets of footage. We've seen quarries or mines in a small gameplay clip, as well as a plantation-- I'm sure farms will be in the game too they just haven't happened to have on in the footage yet would be my best guess
I dunno, for me personally I think this is BY FAR the best civ has ever looked and I've played every game and enjoyed them all since my first time seeing Civ 2 as a kid
The first thing I do with any Civ game is turn Narration Off.
you now hold the record for the 100% most original and intriguing comment I have ever replied to on RUclips lol
If you don't mind me asking, why? What bothers you about it?
11:35 there is no more citizen management
you cant micromanage your citizens inside the city? when did they say that?
Let's not kid ourselves wait for the game 6 months after release when the patches have come out
@@Sheepy19801 😂
Hey I totally respect your PoV and thoughts about the game, the UI and art does look very "alpha", but why so much hate for Humankind? Like calling it a "bad rip off"? I'm not even a mega fan of the game, only played a few times, but I thought it was great for what it was. I think more people trying out and experimenting with the Civ formula is a GOOD thing, not a bad one!
Hey man thanks for taking the time to leave such a thoughtful comment. Yeah, maybe I did go a little too harsh on them I think it's just because pre-release I was actually super excited about Humankind and looking forward to it and then when I saw gameplay I was disappointed and maybe that's why I'm overly critical
what do you think of the civs changing over time?
That's the part I FUCKING HATE. I'm sorry but I love the history aspect of the game and while yes certain cultures get assimilated by others and maybe that's where they are sort of going with it I don't know if I can get behind the way its being carried out... or at least appears to be.
It's hard to say at this point so early in the media coverage but that's probably my biggest problem with the gameplay reveal.
I like being able to start as Rome in the ancient era and being able to build their empire to stand the test of time-- it's what every civ game has been about.
So I obviously have to hold out until I see how it feels in game with mechanics etc, but I'm not thrilled out the concept
@@GamerGrampz I agree with you 100%. Playing as egypt and conquering america or playing as india and going to the moon is the whole reason i play civ, and changing that aspect is like bmw deciding to only make motorcycles for me. Its that type of thing where no matter how well that might implement it, it will not appeal to me at all. Imagine playing with china to your west and all of a sudden its the usa? nah
@@donkor3849 yah 100% can relate and I’m leery myself but time will tell as soon as they start showing off more in game stuff
I mean with AI nowadays, someone could definitely make a Morgan Freeman voice over mod.
you sir, are a genius lol... but yes, really somebody should get on top of that asap!
I miss the civ 5 scenes where when you talk to a leader they have their own environment they're in and they're talking directly to you. civ 6 stepped back on this but it was still to you, in this it looks like a bunch of poorly rendered theater kids interpretive dancing at each other whenever you open diplomacy. The models look bad, the fact that they removed the "talking directly to you" aspect is weird, the little poses and movements they do look like theater interpretations.
The game looks pretty and the rivers thing is great, but I am disappointed by this game and probably won't touch it unless it changes alot before release. They removed the history in a history game by making you shift from egypt to mongolia to whatever, ruining the historical theming and making the gameplay less constistent and grounded. They removed the city management in a city management game by simplifying and automating everything. Sure, it looks pretty, but I signed up to play civ, not humankind. That game was ass and people didn't like it for a reason.
The one thing I didn't like that I know if done well enough I could grow to like is the separation of the ages. It sounds like it's three separate games now. I don't like how "everyone will be reset to be level each age". I get they don't like the snowballing, but it makes doing good seem less rewarding if I know as soon as Exploration comes along that everyone will be caught up with me. That said, if implemented well enough, I'm sure I could become accustomed to this. This is the one part that I think is "new good, old bad" that is part of the meme.
I understand the cycle of "ew new game bad, okay new game coming out, old game good now" or "it'll be good after the dlc", I did that with civ 6 at first, the art style threw me off but I grew to like it as the gameplay drew me in. But this is worse than that, this isn't "oh, this is too cartoony for my taste, but it's still a decent game" this is foundation level stuff being ripped out and replaced with the things people didn't like about a game that failed. This isn't a civ game, this is humankind. And because it's foundation level stuff thats wrong with the game, and other things are now built on top of it, it would take upheaving the entire thing to fix it and I don't think that simple dlc is going to do that. This needs to be uprooted and redone, because I and many others aren't interested in playing humankind again. And I don't believe they can do that before february, or that they will even try to do it. I'll going to keep an eye on it, see where it goes, because they proved me wrong with civ 6, even if it was a lesser issue, and they haven't done me wrong yet. I'll see what more they reveal, see if they attempt to fix this or not. But I don't think I'm going to buy this day one, or at all unless the foundation of this game is redone and fixed. It's not a "humankind did it bad, civ vii will do it right" issue, I fundamentally didn't like the concept, regardless of implementation, you are taking the civilizations out of civilization by making them change and unrecognizable every handful of turns.
I'm not writing this game off entirely, but it would take a damn near perfect implementation to make this current game plan work. They haven't done me wrong yet, so I'm giving it a chance, but this reveal makes me less hopeful about the game, when it should have made me more.
Thanks for taking the time to leave such a thoughtful and well thought out comment. The city management thing I think is still there-- you just control everything from the city itself rather than having a builder go chop your lumber or build your mine it's controlled from inside. Time will tell how this feels and goes over and functions-- until more gameplay and such is revealed it's hard to know for sure one way or the other.
I definitely agree with you on the Humankind being ass part lol
Yeah I agree with you on the Ages system-- I for one am excited about that part so I think I'm in the boat of I actually am currently feeling how you think you might get to eventually. I don't know what your Civ experience is, or how you fared in Civ 6 but for me-- the only real competition was myself because the deity level AI was so piss poor once you learned the ins and outs of the game mechanics to the point where it was just a matter of how fast I was going to win my victory condition not if I was going to or not.
THe funnest part of the game for me was always the early game and while a big part of this was because starting fresh and building from scratch is fun, another large chunk of my enjoyment came from the Deity AI being so overpowered where I had to race to catch up to them in whatever victory condition I was chasing.
By having the "reset" of the ages in a sense, I get to have 3 separate distinct fun races where they will be overpowered and I am further pressured to get better and be good because I want to come out of that Era number one.
I wasn't a fan of humankind by any means-- I was originally excited about it, but as I saw more coverage and gameplay I realized it wasn't anything I wanted to spend money or time on. That being said, the original concept was appealing to me so maybe it's possible that they will have a spin on it that does work for me because ultimately I do have a lot of faith in this development team for just civ 6 alone... the transformation from Civ Vanilla to where it stands today is remarkable.
i hate the narrator - that put-on british theatrical accent is just way too 'drenched'. it doesn't have the timeless characteristics the narrator's vocal performance should have.
I dunno, I personally like her voice and thought it was good but to each their own :)
I heard the victory conditions are military, economic, cultural and science victories. They removed diplomatic and religious victories... In fact idk if there even is religion in this game. It looks terrible tbh.
diplomatic was ez mode, religion was ass, dont need either of them + ratio
I got about 20 minutes into ursa ryans 2 hour deep dive so far so i plan to watch the rest of that tonight, and then boes did a 1 hour 20 mintute video on it and told me i could do a react video to it so im gonna do that as well and maybe ill feel differently after seeing more info
@@Jack_Jack05 i hated diplo because it was poorly executed but the concept is interesting to me. i liked religion once they reworked it in rise and fall & gathering storm personally
Religious victory felt so unfleshed out and repetitive compared to the other main 3 victory conditions. You literally are just building tons of the exact same three units the entire game which you get access to very early in the game. I hope religion is still in civ 7 and works the same or similar to how it did in civ 6 just simply without the win condition for converting all civilizations.
@@NathanWilson07 Yeah but it was so fast an easy. I think I have a turn 147 win on this channel still lol with 8 players standard size map
Most disapointing reveal. Ever.
a lot of people definitely feel that way-- i wouldn't call it the most EVER... but definitely not my favourite by any means. I'm sort of still on the fence TBH... im scared and leery and not impressed with it, but i do have some faith in the fact I've loved every civ game since civ 2 so how could they strike out SOOOO BADLY that I don't even remotely like the game... time will tell obviously
Civ cant stand the test of time in this Mid Meiers Humankind 2. its a new empire every age. the 3 of them. Without seeing WAY more, this feels lazy, washed out. Olnly 3 ages, fuck me. maybe its not too bad, but the Civ changing is the absolute worst, and if im not able to have the option to stay as Rome as the gods intended, then ill wait for mods or refund that that bitch and play Civ V/VI. Fuck ill pl,ay 3, my personal fav anyway
Sid Meier's Humankind 2--- now that's just gonna have to be a video title I use haha
I am in agreement with you. This game I want to see some deeper infrastructure and city planning from this game. Unsure about the combat but I hear that units are made into a pod around a general? Not sure about it all. A game that looks pretty but plays as dog crap is still dog crap.
yeah with the release date so soon I'm worried the things I dont like about it and people are complaining about all over aren't going to be addressed until the first expansion sort of how like reworked vanilla civ6 with rise and fall
@GamerGrampz Hopefully they wasn't as history focused and just slapped some simple mechanics and bloated the game with just pretty things and historical recaps by Brienne of Tarth.
@@diatowolf4975 yah I get where you’re coming from I do it’s just I guess I have a little more faith in the development team than you do
@GamerGrampz I mean, I'll give them a chance. That's all. But if they try and fix it down the road again with a DLC or something. I'm out. They are proudly announcing they had 30 years in this franchise and have new technology etc. Well, they also had that time to listen. So I hope they listened and listen well. All those pretty things isn't going to save it and I'm sure it's hella expensive.
@@diatowolf4975 Well said brother