Uproar Over Plans For New Stadium To Home Tasmania's AFL Team
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- Опубликовано: 17 мар 2024
- The Tasmanian state election could throw out the plans for the AFL's 19th team, the Tasmanian Devils, with many residents believing the $715 million could be better spent tackling other problems.
Senator Jacqui Lambie explains why she's against the stadium.
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Tasmania: “We wanna strike a new deal with the AFL”
AFL: “the new deal is the team is cancelled”
Spot On
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No stadium, no team. Pretty simple. Have these people never seen Field of Dreams?
I don’t get why people don’t want the stadium built, this will create so many jobs not just the building of it but the infrastructure around it , also the tourism .
Not nearly as many as they would like you to believe. Most of the jobs will be involved in the building phase. Not that many will be long term ongoing jobs. Tassie isn't going to attract that many big acts that warrant the use of a large stadium. International acts will stick to the main capital cities.
it is not the right time for this to happen. We have had issues with health and housing for many years now. Rockliff has this as the wrong priority.
@@MusicMasterTasmania the whole country has issues with housing.
The AFL is classified as a Tax Except Non for Profit. No other AFL Team has ever been forced to build a Stadium with a roof. The Taxpayer is being ripped off.
No Stadium, No Team, its your choice! We are happy for you to have a team, but you have to pay for it. If you don't want to pay, or can't afford it, that's ok. No Stadium, No Team!
Fake News!
@@mikaham681 Maybe they can put all the homeless there when their is not a game, at least they will have a roof over their head at night you nob
@@mikaham681 The AFL sells its TV Rights for over $3 million dollars a match, they also sell Grand Final Packages for over $2,000 dollars. Why should the Taxpayer pay for it? Are you aware that the AFL is also a non-profit organization which means they pay no Tax. Do you think that is fair?
@@SkyHeights-pc3hj All enterprises, (or businesses) that make $0 profit pay $0 tax. I suspect any profit/surplus is distributed to the clubs, and they in turn may, or may not pay tax, depending on the whether they make profit.
The players and administrators who receive a major portion of the revenue would pay tax as any individual. However, as high earners I suspect they have mechanisms to minimise that tax, but all totally legal (I hope).
Why should the AFL contribute, or subsidize a Tasmanian team, anymore than they they contribute or subsidize a team from any other state?
Happy to see a Tassie team or not, its up to you. But don't expect all of the other existing clubs to subsidize your stadium. Its up to Tasmania to create a stadium, that will be at the same level as other AFL venue's. And before you say it, the Roof is because of weather in Tasmania. I go to the Melbourne Dockland stadium regularly and its wonderful to have a roof.
This lady needs to look at what optus stadium has brought into WA, she knows nothing if she thinks it won't make money in the long run.
Honestly this lady needs medical help
What a joke Lambie is, State funding CAPPED at $375m a drop in the ocean of what is already given to health, housing etc, once the stadium is built will generate more income for those issues. I have watched games on Blundstone "Arena" where the ball travels backwards, being to Launy to watch the worst game ever between Hawks and Roos where the weather was so bad hardly a goal was kicked. We need a Stadium with a roof, will benefit Tasmanians for generations to come.
Economists say there is little if any benefit to tasmania and hell of a lot of issues!
@@ELDraco100 The stadium will be a hub for not only the Devils that already have over 125,000 members in 48 hours which is an AFL record but all other major sports and entertainment events heading forward.
@@lukeslayer There will hardly be any other "major sports" or entertainment using that stadium.
Big lols at Fat Eddie from Toorak professing to know what's best for Tasmanians. What a plonker
Was originally from broady, but go off
Eddie is good at spending government money on sport. I love sport, but some things are still more important. Fix up the existing two stadiums currently being used for AFL in Tassie. Attracting the occasional concert is not going to help much to pay for the new roofed stadium.
Eddie is good at spending government funds. I love sport, but some things are more important than spending a fortune on a state of a the art football stadium. They are right about cost blowouts because they always happen. Improve the existing two stadiums and spread the games across two cities to make the expansion club for the whole of Tassie.
I don't think they really care just how bad it is, There is literally no homes, The hospital is a complete disaster, Just walk through the doors and see for yourself.
The stadium creates jobs more events and will bring more tourists to Tassie that why I’m saying yes to it
State Government: $375M
Commonwealth Government: $240M
In other words, Tasmanian workers are paying $375M and the rest of us are paying $240M 😂 I’m happy for Tassie but what a joke.
we don't want the thing built, we already have Blundstone Arena
The Project needs a complete overhaul. It’s working parts aren’t working.
Is the roof mostly about the weather down there? I mean gets pretty chilly in Hobart in winter.
Aussie Rules is a winter sport, it’s supporters will still show up.
Probably, but North and Hawthorn have been playing games there for many years, so I can't see what the problem is.
Private school AFL heads telling Tassie how to spend.
There has never ever been more homeless people than what there is in Tasmania today. But the LNP does not care they want to spend $1 Billion dollars on what will be only the 2nd Football Stadium ever built in Australia. Why is it ok for all the other teams to play in stadiums without roofs but not Tasmania.
Weather!
Just clueless
@@mikaham681 The Bureau of Meteorology cites that Canberra is colder than Tasmania on average it also cites that Canberra receives are more rainfall on average than Tasmania. There is AFL, NRL and Rugby Union played in Canberra in Stadiums with no roofs.
@@brettcoles5262 Your right the AFL is clueless, but I would also argue very greedy. They pay no Tax as they are classified as a non-for-profit organization. Then they demand that the Taxpayer pays for all of their infrastructure.
@@FeminismDebunked I'm not aware of an AFL team based out of Canberra. AFL gets played in Canberra every now and then, maybe 2-3 games per year, which is fine. AFL currently gets played in Tasmania (4 Hobart, 4 Launceston) 8 games per year, thats fine.
If you want permanent Tasmanian team, which will mean, 12 games per year, then AFLW, probs 8 games per year, ALL in Hobart, you need a stadium on par with the other AFL venues.
Its not just tassie that has these issue's its country wide. If the federal government stopped wasting so much maybe more money would be there for the states.
Reality is a footy team is a better investment than schools and housing.
Oh dear, someone hasn't used their brain before commenting...
Private or corporate investment seeks a return on investment in monetary terms in the shortest possible timeframe but governments must invest in social projects and infrastructure that has long-term benefits. Otherwise, why bother with healthcare spending, with education, with housing? Why? Because the costs to society of NOT investing in these areas are much more grave. How much does an under-educated, under-trained population cost society? How much does it cost to have families homeless, and all the generational damage that does?
if they distributed all this money between us we could all retire.
At $715m if they distributed the cost amongst each of Tasmania's 541,071 people, they'd get $1,321 each. I hope you're not planning a flashy retirement.
@@J0NVCL1V0N calm down dopey
There are already two AFL Stadiums that have AFL Approval for both Cricket and AFL Football. How can they be good enough for NTH and Hawthorn but not a Tasmanian AFL Team.
Two half baked suburban grounds where the wind 💨 blows and not 1 memorable game apart from Franklin’s 13 goals and siren gate!!! Get into the 21st century and you might be surprised how many more events that you can host!!!!
@@aaronfarley14 The two Stadiums in Tasmania are far superior to multiple AFL venues. The AFL Venue in Ballarat that is by the way colder and receives more rainfall than Tasmania is far inferior to both Tasmanian Venues. As for them being suburban venues you are aware that Hobart has ICC approval for Test Match Cricket? If its good enough for Internation Cricket its good enough for AFL.
North and hawthorn both finished bottom 3. Enough said.
They only play about 4 games at both and at Blundstone arena they would only be allowed to play 7 games at Bellerive because of all the houses
Hawthorn also won 4 premierships in eight years whilst playing in Tasmania. Pick a lane, numpty @@Comatosedpeanut
And the AFL does this a week prior to an election.
She is embarrassing
It’s pretty simple Tasmania no stadium no team get it through your head, both of them 😂
The ‘Tasmania’ team, will most players be sourced from everywhere but? (like all teams)
The LNP choosing to build a 3rd AFL Stadium in Tasmania instead of fixing the Housing Crisis will cost them the Election. The Taxpayers have had enough of the AFL stealing their money.
I hope for the sake of all Tasmanians you are right.
She’s one angry lady 😂
Eddie is such a turn off - a poster boy for being out of touch. Whatever one thinks about the stadium proposal, there's no way he's swaying public sentiment towards the idea. Those who feel strongly against building it should hope he keeps putting his face out there.
No stadium no team, it’s quite simple.
Asking a silly question but where are the other stadiums...
Bellerive stadium is less than 1km away across the Derwent River!
That guernsey has to be the worst one in the comp now, imagine if Essendon had the outline of their suburb with an E in the middle 😂
I agree. Make the Tassie Devil the central feature of the jersey like North do with the Kangaroo. I'm also not a fan of the colours which are very drab. They should have a competition for Tasmanians to design the jersey by putting forward proposals.
It’s not the guernsey they will play in it is just the heritage guernsey, do your homework!
@@richardcooper3454 How can you have a heritage jumper when The Tassie Devils will be a brand new club? There is still a lot to play out before they even start to exist.
@@gustaaf1892 the logos pretty nice but that guernsey is one of the worst I’ve ever seen.
@@richardcooper3454 I literally watched the presentation on the afl app when it came on live at 5.45 buddy, it’s an awful guernsey.
The Taxpayer is being Ripped off. The AFL turns over hundreds of millions of dollars every year. So why is the Taxpayer building the AFL's infrastructure? The AFL is not a Charity the Government needs to stop treating the AFL like a Charity. There is nothing wrong with the two current AFL Venues.
Tasmania’s the charity lol, bringing in a 19th team means they will eventually have to bring in a 20th. As a Victorian I would 100% go down to Tasmania to watch Collingwood play the Tassie team, but I’m not getting on a plane and flying to some suburban ground and spending my hard earned money. A Tassie team would bring in so much money for their economy.
@@Comatosedpeanut Tasmania's population is more than big enough to support one Football team. NSW has 19 and Victoria has 15. Just do the Math it is irrational that Tasmania has zero. There is no need for a new stadium they already have two that host International Cricket and AFL Football.
@@Comatosedpeanut As a Collingwood Fan you will not be able to get a Ticket as every match will be a sell out. If the same % of Tasmanians attend AFL football as they do in Victoria then every single match will be sold out.
@@Comatosedpeanut The Charity cases are North Melbourne and Hawthorn they have both received millions of dollars of from the Tasmanian Taxpayer. The reasons for the Stadium delaying tactics is because the AFL want this situation to continue for as long as possible. If the Taxpayer is not subsidizing NTH and the Hawks then the AFL will have too. The problem is there is 11 AFL Teams, 1 NRL, 1 Rugby Union Team and 3 Soccer Teams in Victoria. That is quite simply too many. It makes no sense to have 16 Football teams in VIC and Zero in TAS.
@@banliveexport325 there is a need for a new stadium cause it was apart of the agreement of Tasmania getting a team, if you have a problem with anyone take it up with your premier.
Jackie cares about Jackie, been in the job for years and still selling the same old story, A typical No Can Do Tasmanian, Jackie We cant afford you!
80% of Victorians live in Melbourne, 65% of NSW in Sydney, 33% of Tasmania in Hobart. It is a poor representation of spend per capita for the population distribution across the state but a great example of a tail (AFL) waging the dog (Gov)
I think they should spend far less money by improving the existing stadiums used for AFL in Hobart and Launceston and share the games across the two cities, but I'm not a Tasmanian.
There is not one NRL Stadium with a Roof.
No English Premier League Stadium has a Roof.
There is no Roofed AFL Stadiums in NSW, QLD, Geelong, SA, WA, the NT.
So why on Earth does Tasmania need a Roofed Stadium? And why on Earth is the Taxpayer paying for it?
It's probably wettest state...
Two things: Rain and Wind…
Does not matter if the Tassie Team plays outside or not, but what does matter is attracting other events to go there and not have to deal with the elements.
It’s that simple
@@gerardcrabb4556Hobart is the second driest capital city, it rarely rains heavily there
Um… the EPL doesn’t have a single roof and that’s in… England?
Arctic winds.
The existing stadia is more than adequate to host a tassie team, it's money down the gurgler in the current fiscal climate to build a whiz bang arena just so a few afl execs can line their pockets
It's difficult to understand the debate. The stadium seems to be talked about as though it was an alternative to a social welfare program or a new hospital rather than an investment in the entertainment industry. This could be a bad business deal or it could be a good business deal but it's a business deal.
Complete garbage by the AFL chief to stipulate:
(a) tax payers must fund a new stadium
(b)said stadium must have a roof
This will push the cost to nearly 1 Billion for 23,000 seats. Pretty embarrassing at any time, let alone during a cost of living crisis- reflects how out of touch the AFL chief must be.
AFL is an outdoor sport isn’t it? Not as though they are hosting matches in Antarctica. Take football in europe- at times they play in snow and a lot colder temperatures. Luton town for example promoted to the EPL in their small, 100 year old stadium. Yes they spent money ( £10 million) to bring it up to spec, but there is no mandate for EPL teams to have roofed stadiums, and that is the most watched football league in the world. Spend a fraction of tax payer money to upgrade the existing stadium- let the AFL pay for a new stadium if they are so desperate for it.
Hobart need's a roof. IT will make Hobart! And Tasmania!
So is Mick Malthouse a state economist for a politician to be quoting and basing an arguement on?
No AFL, NRL, Rugby Union or Soccer team anywhere in the World has ever had such a bizarre demand put on them for entry the comp. Tasmania does not need a roofed stadium just as the teams in SA, WA, NSW, QLD do not need a roofed Stadium. If roofed Stadiums are so important why are there no Soccer Stadiums in Europe with roofs.
Forget the stadium can we talk about the horrible Geurnseys?
It’s so bad lol
Not just Tassie has though issues
Tasmania is being turned into a retirement village for the elderly, most of its population who are in their 20s & 30s who have talent and ambition are heading to other states or overseas...Successive governments are responsible for Tassie's disintegration!
The team is a joke let alone the stadium, team won't be in it the comp till 2027 now their will be 14 free agents from galf the comp what a damn joke, you call them a tassie side 🤣🤣🤣🤣
There’s no Uproar.
It’s what the people of Tassie want.
Speak for yourself! I know plenty of people that don't want it and have wanted this government to focus on issues that are actually important!
@@MusicMasterTasmania This is important.
Here’s the real rub though.
If you just accepted it, looked at the books and said, yes this is something amazing for our state, we’ve spoken to other premiers and we get it, we want it, it’d be not only huge but a real harmonious occasion.
But bloody Jacqui flapping her gums is honestly just creating a massive divide between Tassie and the rest of Australia…
Looks like most people here agree with her. It's a waste. If the afl sees value in it, they should build it. It isn't up to the state and federal governments to prop up a business that from all they profess is the bee's knee's and going wonderfully well. They got a billion dollars for tv rights. They ain't poor. People are homeless and more are losing homes. Public funds are for everyone not a few who want to sit in a new stadium for a couple of hours a month.
Set it up for racetrack around it for Supercars events for winter race... Bring in more events revenue...
Typical Tasmanians. Backward and not looking to the future. Don’t build the stadium then. Jackie needs to concentrate on her home town of Burnie. Jackie what have you done for Burnie. It is a s…h…
I'm victorian and find this unfair. Why cant the afl build it?
Tassie needs footy too. Bout time they're in the game
This chick has issues i think
Just no team for Tas, easy.
I'm from the U.S. Don't build a new stadium, renovate a current one. It's much cheaper!
Build it they will comerce 🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑
New stadium with a roof its about location Blundstone is on the wrong side of the river and not with in walking distance of the Hobart CBD or Salamanca place imagine 15k people walking from the ground 5 minutes down the road to Salamanca the economy on Hobart water front would explode $$$$$$$$
Jacqui is spot on.
Utopia was right😮
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That's a waste too. 2 weeks of events you could just put on over the whole year without the Olympic price tag. Does anyone think about the Olympics outside those two weeks? 2000 was the last one I saw any of.
I thought Queensland were using a lot of existing sporting infrastructure.
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IT IS HAPPENING accept it
No it won't happen dude, your dilussional
@@turbyoulance HAHAHAHAHA ok chief
Aussie rule no.1 sport in australia😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Better then being nrl and sitting in like 4th 😂
Terrible show
It is very simple new stadium, no team. I think her brain must have been in her other head, i guess they removed the wrong one
So sick of whinging Tasmanians. They don't deserve an AFL team. It simply doesn't make commercial sense. It doesn't add to the competition. As per usual, Tasmanians claim they "deserve" something but refuse to spend their own money.
Way prefer either a third WA team or a Canberra team over buldging Tasmanians who refuse to pay their own way.
It's a small minority you hear... People who are happy with it just go about the business knowing it's going ahead. Don't listen to the noise
Are they whinging? I want it. It's only the minority that don't want it.
disgusting comment and uneducated..