If your carrier automatically launches its fighters then you can't launch yours until the fighters have fully launched. At 16:30 the planes automatically launch so you can't launch your torp bombers. It makes sense in reality but is annoying in a gameplay point of view.
I watched a friendly parseval decimate a enemy Yamato with his bombers yesterday.. he got a kraken and top of the leaderboard... Later a parseval wrecked my Iowa just the same.. idk what to say but I do have a newfound hatred for CVs
@@alexeyman7301 There big nightmares, I've had instances where a shima goes on a suicide trip just to sink a full health yamato with a wall of torps then getting sunk not long after
15 Bf110s each with a 53 ft wingspan on the same flight deck..sure why not. Great video Spartan👍Appreciate the look at Parseval, didn’t have enough gold left after my American battleship spending spree to unlock it.
Eh cruisers are ok, they literally have to be brain ded to get hit by the AP bombers becuase they take so long to reach the target. dds and cruisers have more then enought time to get outta they way majority of the time
I feel like cvs are like planes and helis on battlefield games, people cry about how strong they are but only 1% of the player base can actually put them to good use and use them effectively
One of the real strengths of the KMS CVS is how quickly the torp sight shrinks, it lets you strike super quick, and the torp speed makes it super easy to basically one shot DDs.
So by the logic of what people are saying is that your upset that a CV can pop you for 20k but your ok with your surface ships being able to dev strike another ship. In other words you want them to not be able to touch you at all and for your AA to stop them from being able to do anything. The counter to CVS is one evasive maneuvers and two team work AKA stacking AA. CVS just point out the problem with the majority of players and that is the lack of team work. If you wanna wreck CVs than I would suggest division play as being your main thing and bring one or two of your division mates with AA builds. That's another thing nobody seems to want to change there builds to counter CVs.
Love how they add German Carriers which I don't even think were built in time during the war, but don't add ark royal etc in from the British which were involved
Next campaign with be the T7 Enterprise, which has AP bombs. Also for bureau probably will add Midway as the Legendary ship. I also saw lots of Legendary Montana's in games today, AI and Standard, so that ship is coming to the bureau at some point.
Just a tip spartan, use secondary mods on mod 1 and 2, and hipper inspiration, german cvs secondaries are accurate as hell and they can deal with dds by themselves.
@@SpartanElite43 hey Spartan USS Montana another us battleships is in the game…. Hive hound and someone else has fought against them in legendary ai matches … you should go and do a video about hunting the Montana
Biggest tips are aa is strongest on the side, bombers should never approach from the side. Manover around the aa bubble and attack head on from the back. Also invest in heavily in plane speed. PLAN YOUR ESCAPE, don't drop munitions then leave your planes to fly back over enemy ships. You will waste prescious planes. With bomber lead you reticle so you drop the moment you go green and lined up.
Seems like the German carriers may be the catalyst for change in game play especially if you’re a cruiser or battleship player. Teams may need to stay together in closer proximity, like a formation, to help with AA defense while pushing up. It also begs the question of what carriers should do, as a priority, at the start of the game? Seems like a carrier may need to destroy that enemy carrier ASAP, to gain that air superiority advantage to do other things for their team.
Don't get me wrong, I really like the Bf110 models, but kinda wishing they make a separate aircraft model for the dive bombers, like maybe Ju87? Same with Lex... wish the torp bombers were Avengers...
Hey spartan....have you noticed BB overpens doing wrong damage numbers? I swear I had 2 overpens in same Salvo in the Colorado do 13 & 14 damage....not 1300 or 1400....just 13 & 14. I also had one do 309 (positive on that number). All salvos were taken on another BB. I was just wondering if anyone else has experienced this. If so is it a damage glitch or just the damage value reporting incorrectly.
Most of the people saying that ap bombs are bad probably only have the first german cv which if you look at the stats the torps are SOO much better than the bombs and easier to use
Even so those AP bombs are downright nasty. I played it a bit yesterday - CV play really isn't for me - and even at tier III the AP bombs are straight up evil. Yes, harder to use, but a few runs against bots to get my eye in and I was handing out pain with them. Merciless difficult to dodge, if you're willing to give up a bit of pen for a sure hit, and a target that isn't dodging is absolutely getting penetrated because you can get away with releasing higher up for more pen.
it’s definitely time for us to be able to shoot torps if we spot them , at the very least being able to shoot them with battleship guns , and all ships need to have there hit points increased, at tier 6 and 7
@@Pigeon249 DDs at least risk more then CVs and if they do a mistake, it can cost them everything. Moreover, they can be outplayed by a radar cruiser or another DD and torpedoes most of the time can be dodged, especially if you now, where to expect them. Yes, destroyers are pretty annoying but wg added even more annoying class on top of that, which you are not able to outplay.
@@AndreyS-m3m Destroyers are abpe to outplay them. Aswell as relying on teammates to understand even what radar is nevermind how to properly use it is taking a huge risk. What if you get matchmaked with no radar cruisers? What if the enemy team gets 4 star tier destroyers. What are you supposed to do against that? Atleast with cvs you can make an attempt to shoot at them or even have your cv teammate fight them.
@@Pigeon249 Firstly, when I played, and I am an experienced player (3.5k games, 59% winrate casual, 65% winrate ranks) cvs almost never go for dds because they damage chasing and always focus bbs. Secondly, even if you have no radar cruiser, you can still capture points, destroy everything except dds and win by saving caps. And if dd go for a cv, it is most likely a lose for his team because he will not capture or do anything for his team for about 5 min (and this is in case he is not spotted and managed to find a cv and torpedo him)
@@AndreyS-m3m I don't care how experienced you are if you're too blind to see that destroyers are the problem here and nerfing cvs will do nothing but make destroyers better.
hello captain spartan nice video again and you re very close to the next swiss army knife captain. great job man. so now the german t7 cv changes the gameplay. in my oppinion first bb need support on the sea. and the first target is the the german cv. otherwise you loos your bb fast. i tryed to safe the bb with my cruiser and it worked mostly. but this planes are hard to kill and the damage is brutal when they hit. for me changes the game as far as the cv is gone and i can stop protect my bb s. so nice vid and have fun, take care and with best regards from 🇨🇭
This is my nightmare. I wish war gaming would allow me to spec my ship during the pre-match screen so I dont have to suffer for using my ship to kill other ships when a carrier shows up. Killing planes is not fun and not why I started playing legends.
my first game in the t5 weser 73k dmg, 3 kills, 5 torps 13 ap bombs, 4 cits, and at the end (it was on 2 brothers) me and the enemy weser charged eachother through the middle and I got a close quarters expert. Not op at all
Meh on the t3 a citadel hit on a cruiser is like 3k and on a bb is like 4K(which is super rare anyways) so no, they’re kinda really bad imo I get much more damage with their torps which they don’t even specialize in.
@@anime4gamers826 that's not a Tillman BB at all it's the last standards that were laid down then cancelled because of treaty limitions the guns on Kansas was in fact gonna be on Iowa but then the turrets were too small so they needed to design new guns
That thing looks like fun. Hopefully wargaming tries to even the playing field with AA buffs or some consumable that limits damage to surface ships. I’d hate to see the game go belly up because of broken CV play. It hasn’t been an issue for me but I could see some players complaining about it.
Lol germans carriers are fun to play, people like to complain about them when they get killed by it, but let's face it, you gotta stick with your teamates if you don't want to be focused, also if you are low HP, you're becoming a target for CVs, the only thing that sucks about CVs is the fact that DDs get spotted and killed instantly, wargaming should rework this by making the DD's only visible for the CV
@@reg1mbald294 you sir are what I refer to as a coward, I knew before I got halfway through you’re comment that you liked dds, because you like cvs, and it’s only the ones who like to attack while being invisible that like these ships.
I've played a handful games in air craft carriers and the best game for me was 20k damage 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 But every game it seemed like I was getting better at it
Spartan the Lexi and shokaku have the immunity thing just in case u were implying they do not and did u notice u actually fly much higher in the German planes especially AP bomber's
Oh I know all tier 7 carriers get it that's the problem. Imagine them giving BBs the ability to not take damage for 6 seconds.... See a mess of shells coming your way and whoopsie sorry about your luck you can't hurt me
@@SpartanElite43 yes it is dumb and ik they wouldnt change it the way it is maybe nerfs but that's it it will always be immunity so the have to have in game so I think this a great opportunity for the DFAA and make it more reliable and more prone to use by making DFAA the counter to this immunity canceling it out and doing damage like how sonar/radar cancels out the affects of smoke it's better then nun but we do need visual indications of both and BBs should get the option of DFAA
This ship is op in another Level. Once a game this thing completely nuked me and dealed me 15k damage per attack and because the AA on my ship didn't shoot, I got absolutely rekt. My Team wasn't even that bad but we unfortunately only had one cap and the carrier killed two mates and than they won because my mated couldn't cap another caps.
Personally I think the max you should be able to do per attack run with a CV is around 15k because 9k per citadel on an ap bomb is stupid The T3 German carrier is actually balanced because it does like 3-4K per citadel not damn 9
The day has come where they may have added something game breaking/op asf. Been having fun with the tier 5 and did not realize this has a consumable to make the damn planes invincible. Battleships dont stand a chance against this smh
Naw Level Bombing was an actual thing where bomber would come in at a much lower altitude and Bomb from the sides of ships. Instead of Dive Bombing coming in from Above. I think it was a way to help avoid being detected until the last moment
I'm not a CV players, but these german are NASTY, i'd say they will be nerfed soon, i manage to take pleasure with these bombers, those citadels hits are just powerful xD
There’s literally no point of playing any other class of ship. Especially battleships, they have no chance of dodging these bombs. Half of the battleships as it is are too inaccurate to hit anything, and even what they’re supposed to pray on, that being cruisers are a lot of times more predators than prey when you have ridiculous ships like the Atlanta, suzuya and Cleveland. They need MAJOR deck armor and AA buffs if these are gonna stay. A ship that can damage other players with no chance of getting damaged back, should by its nature be the weakest class, not by far the strongest. AP bombs need to go. What’s more, after playing the German carriers the only ship that represents any sort of threat to them is destroyers. Destroyers already are extremely overpowered as it is. They are already a huge threat to battleships, and even cruisers at times. And right now they are also predators to carriers. You could make the argument that any ship can damage a carrier, which is true but you can deal more damage back then they can deal to you, and it’s very hard to get spotted by anything other than a destroyer. But you cannot damage destroyers effectively. Destroyers need to be nerfed, Especially The ridiculous Japanese destroyers like the shimakaze, and armor piercing bombs and bombs that deal more damage per hit than the average battleship salvo have no place in the game on a ship that realistically can’t be damaged back. How do they effectively Nerf destroyers? Either reduce torpedo damage severely, or provide more ways for them to be spotted, by battleships in a 1v1 scenario, such as being able to control the spotter planes in the same way you can carrier launched planes, and have them tail a target. Have them ACTUALLY spot things. and really they need a combination of both. I think the torpedo should do about the amount of damage that the carrier torpedoes do, or there should otherwise be some form of rng, because in their current state there’s no art of aiming, you don’t need to worry about hitting certain points of the ship and torpedo protection belts mean nothing, if you get more than three or four torpedoes the ship is done no matter what kind it is. Every single salvo of torpedoes has the realistic potential to be a dev strike, and in the case of some Japanese destroyers it can be more than one. That is not achievable in any other class of ship, and to completely wipe out a ship from full health in a battleship takes a ridiculous amount of luck, rng, and aiming skill to pull off, and even then sometimes it doesn’t matter because your guns are too big for the target you’re shooting at and you get all overpens, or just as likely the game decides you are going to have garbage dispersion and miss every shot. Destroyers that doesn’t happen. All you have to do is get a torpedo somewhere on the ship you’re shooting at and it’s going to do a ton of damage and probably cause flooding too. And every torpedo that hits does more damage on average than a citadel does from a battleship and citadels are much harder to achieve. They don’t have any chance based factors that have any significant effect like battleship dispersion does. I’m sure there are going to be salty destroyer captains saying it’s harder to hit torpedoes than shells, and you can dodge torpedoes, which is just blatantly wrong, and you can dodge shells much more easily than torpedoes because you know when they’re coming, which is why a lot of cruisers are actually battleship predators instead of prey like they are supposed to be. Battleships are by far the most underpowered class in the game right now, and destroyers are by far the most overpowered class. But that being the case, does not hold a candle to a carrier, because even though it doesn’t have as much potential to deal damage as one of the overpowered destroyers, it’s basically impossible to have a bad game in a carrier. You are not going to get shot at until the end of the game unless you horribly screw up. You have no chance of anything detecting you and no chance of anything being able to shoot at you even if you are detected, because you don’t need to be anywhere near them to deal damage to them. And by that very fact and by that very nature, they should not have the potential to deal as much damage or pose as large a threat as they do in particular to the ship that is already the most under powered class in the game, that being the battleship. If you want to play a ship that you can survive every single game until the very end, your role should be 99% spotting, and offering intelligence data to the team rather than dealing ridiculous amount of damage with no damage being dealt back, and in the current state of the game it is the polar opposite of that.
Torpedoes are easy to dodge as long as you actually move your ass instead of sitting at spawn the entire game like most BB players do. But I agree about carriers. I can't believe they're doing it again. Fucking imbeciles.
@@MumentoMory they can be dodged in some scenarios, but in others it’s just not possible. They’re much harder to dodge than shells, and much more effective as well. The shimakaze is the most unbalanced ship in the game, and it’s not particularly close. Every torpedo does more damage than a citadel, and they’re much easier to get than citadels. They need to do the same amount of torp damage as carriers, and what’s more, overpens need to have a chance to cause flooding for a short duration of time, as they actually do, that way you don’t get rewarded for having shit armor.
This ship didn't need a AP bomb nerf. CV's literally have NO DEFENSE..so this entire line of thought Spartan layed out is hilariously, ironically flawed.
Its so sad. I already had cut my play time in about half because of the other carriers. Its just not fun getting HE bombed over and over and having no chance to strike back or even hide when your in a BB. Now with this one....im done. Guess i gotta start looking for a new warSHIP game to play.
I love the American battleships so much now because that AA🥵 I’ve been using California with a full AA build and any carrier that goes after me is guaranteed to lose the whole squadron
Well you have the luck of gods mate I’ve changes all my bbs to full AA and they still get at least 2 full salvos away before shot down n that’s when I’m near team mates of I’m alone I’ve fad 4 strikes on me.
@@rhebelrhouser2813 that’s because not all ships have good base AA the California has some of the best base aa in the game and it’s against tier 5 planes
So far I'm not disappointed with this update, but this update should really have been British. They have a host of BBs they could have used and most importantly England actually had aircraft carriers so they could have used real ships instead of all of the fantasy ships.
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If your carrier automatically launches its fighters then you can't launch yours until the fighters have fully launched. At 16:30 the planes automatically launch so you can't launch your torp bombers. It makes sense in reality but is annoying in a gameplay point of view.
I watched a friendly parseval decimate a enemy Yamato with his bombers yesterday.. he got a kraken and top of the leaderboard... Later a parseval wrecked my Iowa just the same.. idk what to say but I do have a newfound hatred for CVs
For whatever it's worth that's exactly what carriers did historically too
At least you can see the fucking planes before you get shredded unlike destroyers hitting 5 torpedoes to 1 shot a yamato from out of nowhere
@@Pigeon249 you must mean the Shimikaze lol big true
@@alexeyman7301 There big nightmares, I've had instances where a shima goes on a suicide trip just to sink a full health yamato with a wall of torps then getting sunk not long after
15 Bf110s each with a 53 ft wingspan on the same flight deck..sure why not. Great video Spartan👍Appreciate the look at Parseval, didn’t have enough gold left after my American battleship spending spree to unlock it.
I like how Spartan added chapters on YT. Watching it in full 4K on my laptop always makes my day
God have mercy on all the Battleships and Cruisers
Just battleships a lot cruiser just get overpened
Eh cruisers are ok, they literally have to be brain ded to get hit by the AP bombers becuase they take so long to reach the target. dds and cruisers have more then enought time to get outta they way majority of the time
Yea, being a tier 7 BB when there’s this CV in the lobby, is really a bad time
@@zach071591 ^
In a completely unrelated note! American battleship Montana has been added to WoWs Legends! Me and a friend just engaged two in an AI battle!
"can we finish this man" -Spartan Elite43
The planes talking off wasn't a glitch, it was that your fighter planes were talking so you had to wait for them to take off before you can take off
Spartan, all carriers of tier 7, when upgrade to Max, Have 15 planes or 30 in total if combine both torpedo and dive bombers together.
Also, DON'T DO A SECONDARY BUILD ON GERMAN CARRIERS
Also at 16:31, That wasn't a glitch spartan, u Carrier was launching Fighters before it could launch ur attack aircraft.
The higher you drop the AP bombs the more penatration.
It makes sense, but does it really works like that in game?
@@l.palacio9076 yes it does. It's the exact same animation as in PC, where it's to the KMS disadvantage
@@l.palacio9076 Yes
I feel like cvs are like planes and helis on battlefield games, people cry about how strong they are but only 1% of the player base can actually put them to good use and use them effectively
a good Idea is to drop the ap bombs from higher on bbs and slightly lower on cruisers for more citadels
One of the real strengths of the KMS CVS is how quickly the torp sight shrinks, it lets you strike super quick, and the torp speed makes it super easy to basically one shot DDs.
Adding the chapters is really helpful and a great idea! Good job Spartan
Glad you like them!
So by the logic of what people are saying is that your upset that a CV can pop you for 20k but your ok with your surface ships being able to dev strike another ship. In other words you want them to not be able to touch you at all and for your AA to stop them from being able to do anything. The counter to CVS is one evasive maneuvers and two team work AKA stacking AA. CVS just point out the problem with the majority of players and that is the lack of team work. If you wanna wreck CVs than I would suggest division play as being your main thing and bring one or two of your division mates with AA builds. That's another thing nobody seems to want to change there builds to counter CVs.
The spread on the lexingtons HE bombs DOES allow you to effectively attack destroyers, which in itself is pretty damn valuable
Love how they add German Carriers which I don't even think were built in time during the war, but don't add ark royal etc in from the British which were involved
I was pretty dissapointed too. USN, Japan and GB should have the only CV's in the game but WG is being ridiculous again
I recently started to play the german carrier on wow pc the only thing that I struggled with is the attack aircraft boy those are hard to use
Its videos like this that make me thankful for american dakka. Proof that every single last one of those AA guns is necessary
And one more thing it's not a glitch at 16:39 it's because ur fighter planes are launching and ofc u can't launch two planes in the same time
Next campaign with be the T7 Enterprise, which has AP bombs. Also for bureau probably will add Midway as the Legendary ship. I also saw lots of Legendary Montana's in games today, AI and Standard, so that ship is coming to the bureau at some point.
Change in team play may be required.
I enjoyed sniping from the back with my French battleships.
Lone battleship is going to be in lot of trouble 🤔
Just a tip spartan, use secondary mods on mod 1 and 2, and hipper inspiration, german cvs secondaries are accurate as hell and they can deal with dds by themselves.
I like your videos because it explains all the details
The name of the Commander is spoken like Guys_ler
thanks for the new mexico video it really helped
Glad it helped!
@@SpartanElite43 hey Spartan USS Montana another us battleships is in the game…. Hive hound and someone else has fought against them in legendary ai matches … you should go and do a video about hunting the Montana
Hope to play with/ or agin you someday. I like the way you approach the game. Good carrier game
Hey spartan you have to be farther away to get citadels becuz of gravity.also cant wait for your kansas review looks like a beast.
Insane Game Spartan, Congratulations, you are great player WOWL. I like your Channel !
Glad you enjoy it!
Biggest tips are aa is strongest on the side, bombers should never approach from the side. Manover around the aa bubble and attack head on from the back. Also invest in heavily in plane speed. PLAN YOUR ESCAPE, don't drop munitions then leave your planes to fly back over enemy ships. You will waste prescious planes. With bomber lead you reticle so you drop the moment you go green and lined up.
Seems like the German carriers may be the catalyst for change in game play especially if you’re a cruiser or battleship player.
Teams may need to stay together in closer proximity, like a formation, to help with AA defense while pushing up.
It also begs the question of what carriers should do, as a priority, at the start of the game?
Seems like a carrier may need to destroy that enemy carrier ASAP, to gain that air superiority advantage to do other things for their team.
Don't get me wrong, I really like the Bf110 models, but kinda wishing they make a separate aircraft model for the dive bombers, like maybe Ju87? Same with Lex... wish the torp bombers were Avengers...
I was looking forward to a Bayern video, hopefully it will come soon
August von Parseval sounds badass if you ask me
Sounds like a name made up by Tiny Tina in Borderlands. She has that bug in a jar named Sir Reginald von Bartlesby that she invites to a tea party.
@@smeghead765 lol
Well boys and gals it has been fun, but dark times are ahead of us. May match making be in your favor!
Hey spartan....have you noticed BB overpens doing wrong damage numbers? I swear I had 2 overpens in same Salvo in the Colorado do 13 & 14 damage....not 1300 or 1400....just 13 & 14. I also had one do 309 (positive on that number). All salvos were taken on another BB. I was just wondering if anyone else has experienced this. If so is it a damage glitch or just the damage value reporting incorrectly.
Most of the people saying that ap bombs are bad probably only have the first german cv which if you look at the stats the torps are SOO much better than the bombs and easier to use
The Rhein has super accurate bombs it's crazy but they way they drop is different from the other tow nations which is wack
Even so those AP bombs are downright nasty. I played it a bit yesterday - CV play really isn't for me - and even at tier III the AP bombs are straight up evil. Yes, harder to use, but a few runs against bots to get my eye in and I was handing out pain with them. Merciless difficult to dodge, if you're willing to give up a bit of pen for a sure hit, and a target that isn't dodging is absolutely getting penetrated because you can get away with releasing higher up for more pen.
First match in the Rhein i got 75k dmg mostly with ap bombs
it’s definitely time for us to be able to shoot torps if we spot them , at the very least being able to shoot them with battleship guns , and all ships need to have there hit points increased, at tier 6 and 7
Thx for some kind words and killing me. Greetings from Germany. 😉 #Oak-Berlin
Yes, always come from the rear man, It doesn't necessarily has to be a bomb run, more like a life lesson
16:40 you didn't launch your Planes, it launches the Auto fighter and so you can't launch bombers while the other are starting
Nice video! ❤️ Btw its Geisler not Giesler?
There was a moment when that first appeared bomb hit my ship..and I was like...ow! Kinda like the death star killing that first rebel ship in jedi
Sad, just sad. That poor Nelson couldn't do absolutely nothing to avoid being annihilated. Good game...
I don't see why people complain about this but not destroyers
@@Pigeon249 DDs at least risk more then CVs and if they do a mistake, it can cost them everything. Moreover, they can be outplayed by a radar cruiser or another DD and torpedoes most of the time can be dodged, especially if you now, where to expect them. Yes, destroyers are pretty annoying but wg added even more annoying class on top of that, which you are not able to outplay.
@@AndreyS-m3m Destroyers are abpe to outplay them. Aswell as relying on teammates to understand even what radar is nevermind how to properly use it is taking a huge risk. What if you get matchmaked with no radar cruisers? What if the enemy team gets 4 star tier destroyers. What are you supposed to do against that? Atleast with cvs you can make an attempt to shoot at them or even have your cv teammate fight them.
@@Pigeon249 Firstly, when I played, and I am an experienced player (3.5k games, 59% winrate casual, 65% winrate ranks) cvs almost never go for dds because they damage chasing and always focus bbs. Secondly, even if you have no radar cruiser, you can still capture points, destroy everything except dds and win by saving caps. And if dd go for a cv, it is most likely a lose for his team because he will not capture or do anything for his team for about 5 min (and this is in case he is not spotted and managed to find a cv and torpedo him)
@@AndreyS-m3m I don't care how experienced you are if you're too blind to see that destroyers are the problem here and nerfing cvs will do nothing but make destroyers better.
hello captain spartan
nice video again and you re very close to the next swiss army knife captain. great job man.
so now the german t7 cv changes the gameplay. in my oppinion first bb need support on the sea. and the first target is the the german cv. otherwise you loos your bb fast. i tryed to safe the bb with my cruiser and it worked mostly. but this planes are hard to kill and the damage is brutal when they hit. for me changes the game as far as the cv is gone and i can stop protect my bb s. so nice vid and have fun, take care and with best regards from 🇨🇭
This is my nightmare. I wish war gaming would allow me to spec my ship during the pre-match screen so I dont have to suffer for using my ship to kill other ships when a carrier shows up. Killing planes is not fun and not why I started playing legends.
That’s what I’ve been saying for ages but it’s definitely needed now with these arsehole carriers
When u skip the tier 3 and 5 sad boi times:(
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I skip rhein because it was a pain in the ass to grind and find a match, weser is hella good tho
my first game in the t5 weser 73k dmg, 3 kills, 5 torps 13 ap bombs, 4 cits, and at the end (it was on 2 brothers) me and the enemy weser charged eachother through the middle and I got a close quarters expert. Not op at all
Meh on the t3 a citadel hit on a cruiser is like 3k and on a bb is like 4K(which is super rare anyways) so no, they’re kinda really bad imo I get much more damage with their torps which they don’t even specialize in.
Loving the content, I main aircraft carriers and BB's
And you can place fighters you counter the other carrier’s aircraft.
Woah really nice video, this aircraft carries are so broken!
Do you think they’ll ever bring in the Tillman class USN super battleship concepts?
it's in the preview tier 7 new battleship line
@@anime4gamers826 that's not a Tillman BB at all it's the last standards that were laid down then cancelled because of treaty limitions the guns on Kansas was in fact gonna be on Iowa but then the turrets were too small so they needed to design new guns
@@doomguy.23frommars60 oh I checked it up and you're right but on console I could only see one which is the Vermont on legendary ship
@@anime4gamers826 yes for sure but Montana is coming first (u can see her in AI battles)
That thing looks like fun. Hopefully wargaming tries to even the playing field with AA buffs or some consumable that limits damage to surface ships. I’d hate to see the game go belly up because of broken CV play. It hasn’t been an issue for me but I could see some players complaining about it.
Like increased AA range and a 10% damage Buff.
Increase the amount of health recovered
I only at tier 3 but I got 4 citadels I was happy with that result I still learning aircraft carriers
This cv’s dive bombers brought my Tripitz to half hp 45 seconds into the match…..
What is the best way to get the new American line, Idek how to get them
It’s geisler as in g-eye-sler Ei in German makes an eye sound whereas ie makes an ee sound
Good play sir👍🏻
The German Cvs arebroken, it took half my HP in one run, I was in a Zara btw
Lol germans carriers are fun to play, people like to complain about them when they get killed by it, but let's face it, you gotta stick with your teamates if you don't want to be focused, also if you are low HP, you're becoming a target for CVs, the only thing that sucks about CVs is the fact that DDs get spotted and killed instantly, wargaming should rework this by making the DD's only visible for the CV
@@reg1mbald294 you sir are what I refer to as a coward, I knew before I got halfway through you’re comment that you liked dds, because you like cvs, and it’s only the ones who like to attack while being invisible that like these ships.
Hey Spartan can you do another carrier review lol I know you don't like to use them but I would love to see you in a carrier
I've played a handful games in air craft carriers and the best game for me was 20k damage 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
But every game it seemed like I was getting better at it
On my console it shows biplanes instead of messerschmidtd
Spartan the Lexi and shokaku have the immunity thing just in case u were implying they do not and did u notice u actually fly much higher in the German planes especially AP bomber's
Oh I know all tier 7 carriers get it that's the problem. Imagine them giving BBs the ability to not take damage for 6 seconds.... See a mess of shells coming your way and whoopsie sorry about your luck you can't hurt me
@@SpartanElite43 yes it is dumb and ik they wouldnt change it the way it is maybe nerfs but that's it it will always be immunity so the have to have in game so I think this a great opportunity for the DFAA and make it more reliable and more prone to use by making DFAA the counter to this immunity canceling it out and doing damage like how sonar/radar cancels out the affects of smoke it's better then nun but we do need visual indications of both and BBs should get the option of DFAA
@@SpartanElite43 the time it takes to drop 2 strikes is roughly 20 seconds. 6 seconds is honestly not that bad
I got a double citadel on a budyonny for 21 k damage in my weser
That isn’t a glitch. The defense fighters are launching first. Your planes are waiting in line pretty much
I LOVE IT! Cant wait to get it! It looks fabulous! How much elite xp do you need to be able to get it?! :)
You gotta admit they are pretty nice, and people fear you
Lol when the fighters are using the deck for take off you cannot take off with a squad until the fighters take off
I've given mine a 6km range AA that deal 550 DMG a sec
This ship is op in another Level. Once a game this thing completely nuked me and dealed me 15k damage per attack and because the AA on my ship didn't shoot, I got absolutely rekt. My Team wasn't even that bad but we unfortunately only had one cap and the carrier killed two mates and than they won because my mated couldn't cap another caps.
A fantasy ship (never built) doing fantasy damage (op).
Personally I think the max you should be able to do per attack run with a CV is around 15k because 9k per citadel on an ap bomb is stupid
The T3 German carrier is actually balanced because it does like 3-4K per citadel not damn 9
For me when I play it, it seems that turtle back is really weak against the ap bombs
all ships are weakly protected against top-down attacks
Now we prob gonna have enterprise cuz we have German cvs with ap bombs.
Just wait till they surprise us with the FDR as a legendary CV
@@adller05 they said no legendary carriers, but maybe they'll change their minds, i hope that they add the yorktown tho
@@adller05 yeah that thing is broken as hell
Do the other german carriers too spartan
The day has come where they may have added something game breaking/op asf. Been having fun with the tier 5 and did not realize this has a consumable to make the damn planes invincible. Battleships dont stand a chance against this smh
I asume he means carpet bombing when he says level bombing but I could be wrong
Naw Level Bombing was an actual thing where bomber would come in at a much lower altitude and Bomb from the sides of ships. Instead of Dive Bombing coming in from Above.
I think it was a way to help avoid being detected until the last moment
I'm not a CV players, but these german are NASTY, i'd say they will be nerfed soon, i manage to take pleasure with these bombers, those citadels hits are just powerful xD
Not even close to as powerful as 1 or 2 torp hits from any t7 destroyer
@@Pigeon249 t7 * japanese * destroyer
@@aproudbaguette3605 anything except americans
Parseval is OP. American and Japaneese carriers should have unique abilities too.
I'm excited for these. The other two nations have garbage CVs and this can really shift the meta for AA mods.
Ive almost all but stopped now using my german bbs its nothing but this cv in battles now
Wow your not bad with CV’s
There’s literally no point of playing any other class of ship. Especially battleships, they have no chance of dodging these bombs. Half of the battleships as it is are too inaccurate to hit anything, and even what they’re supposed to pray on, that being cruisers are a lot of times more predators than prey when you have ridiculous ships like the Atlanta, suzuya and Cleveland. They need MAJOR deck armor and AA buffs if these are gonna stay. A ship that can damage other players with no chance of getting damaged back, should by its nature be the weakest class, not by far the strongest. AP bombs need to go. What’s more, after playing the German carriers the only ship that represents any sort of threat to them is destroyers. Destroyers already are extremely overpowered as it is. They are already a huge threat to battleships, and even cruisers at times. And right now they are also predators to carriers. You could make the argument that any ship can damage a carrier, which is true but you can deal more damage back then they can deal to you, and it’s very hard to get spotted by anything other than a destroyer. But you cannot damage destroyers effectively. Destroyers need to be nerfed, Especially The ridiculous Japanese destroyers like the shimakaze, and armor piercing bombs and bombs that deal more damage per hit than the average battleship salvo have no place in the game on a ship that realistically can’t be damaged back. How do they effectively Nerf destroyers? Either reduce torpedo damage severely, or provide more ways for them to be spotted, by battleships in a 1v1 scenario, such as being able to control the spotter planes in the same way you can carrier launched planes, and have them tail a target. Have them ACTUALLY spot things. and really they need a combination of both. I think the torpedo should do about the amount of damage that the carrier torpedoes do, or there should otherwise be some form of rng, because in their current state there’s no art of aiming, you don’t need to worry about hitting certain points of the ship and torpedo protection belts mean nothing, if you get more than three or four torpedoes the ship is done no matter what kind it is. Every single salvo of torpedoes has the realistic potential to be a dev strike, and in the case of some Japanese destroyers it can be more than one. That is not achievable in any other class of ship, and to completely wipe out a ship from full health in a battleship takes a ridiculous amount of luck, rng, and aiming skill to pull off, and even then sometimes it doesn’t matter because your guns are too big for the target you’re shooting at and you get all overpens, or just as likely the game decides you are going to have garbage dispersion and miss every shot. Destroyers that doesn’t happen. All you have to do is get a torpedo somewhere on the ship you’re shooting at and it’s going to do a ton of damage and probably cause flooding too. And every torpedo that hits does more damage on average than a citadel does from a battleship and citadels are much harder to achieve. They don’t have any chance based factors that have any significant effect like battleship dispersion does. I’m sure there are going to be salty destroyer captains saying it’s harder to hit torpedoes than shells, and you can dodge torpedoes, which is just blatantly wrong, and you can dodge shells much more easily than torpedoes because you know when they’re coming, which is why a lot of cruisers are actually battleship predators instead of prey like they are supposed to be. Battleships are by far the most underpowered class in the game right now, and destroyers are by far the most overpowered class. But that being the case, does not hold a candle to a carrier, because even though it doesn’t have as much potential to deal damage as one of the overpowered destroyers, it’s basically impossible to have a bad game in a carrier. You are not going to get shot at until the end of the game unless you horribly screw up. You have no chance of anything detecting you and no chance of anything being able to shoot at you even if you are detected, because you don’t need to be anywhere near them to deal damage to them. And by that very fact and by that very nature, they should not have the potential to deal as much damage or pose as large a threat as they do in particular to the ship that is already the most under powered class in the game, that being the battleship. If you want to play a ship that you can survive every single game until the very end, your role should be 99% spotting, and offering intelligence data to the team rather than dealing ridiculous amount of damage with no damage being dealt back, and in the current state of the game it is the polar opposite of that.
Agree with your final point - I think the concealment is what needs to change!
Great comment
Torpedoes are easy to dodge as long as you actually move your ass instead of sitting at spawn the entire game like most BB players do. But I agree about carriers. I can't believe they're doing it again. Fucking imbeciles.
@@MumentoMory they can be dodged in some scenarios, but in others it’s just not possible. They’re much harder to dodge than shells, and much more effective as well. The shimakaze is the most unbalanced ship in the game, and it’s not particularly close. Every torpedo does more damage than a citadel, and they’re much easier to get than citadels. They need to do the same amount of torp damage as carriers, and what’s more, overpens need to have a chance to cause flooding for a short duration of time, as they actually do, that way you don’t get rewarded for having shit armor.
Mate you took the words right out my mouth lol
This ship didn't need a AP bomb nerf.
CV's literally have NO DEFENSE..so this entire line of thought Spartan layed out is hilariously, ironically flawed.
Your a CC can you find out with WG what’s going on with the crossplay division/party invite 🙄
Secondary build carrier less go
Who knew the german carriers are actually OP
I dont like how they drop less ordinance and have smaller sqd numbers
Why not do a review with The stock ship... i mean you have to get 75k to get the upgraded planes...
Its so sad. I already had cut my play time in about half because of the other carriers. Its just not fun getting HE bombed over and over and having no chance to strike back or even hide when your in a BB. Now with this one....im done. Guess i gotta start looking for a new warSHIP game to play.
War Thunder is funner anyway. Try it if you haven't. Much more of a sim though and bigger learning curve, but very fun.
I love the American battleships so much now because that AA🥵
I’ve been using California with a full AA build and any carrier that goes after me is guaranteed to lose the whole squadron
Well you have the luck of gods mate I’ve changes all my bbs to full AA and they still get at least 2 full salvos away before shot down n that’s when I’m near team mates of I’m alone I’ve fad 4 strikes on me.
@@rhebelrhouser2813 that’s because not all ships have good base AA the California has some of the best base aa in the game and it’s against tier 5 planes
which are the 5 battelships that you hate
I once did 93 k dmg in the tier 3 Carrier
Rhein
So far I'm not disappointed with this update, but this update should really have been British. They have a host of BBs they could have used and most importantly England actually had aircraft carriers so they could have used real ships instead of all of the fantasy ships.
Gosshhh im still hyped from my Rounds yesterday with Parseval i love her i just Love her 💕
bro I'm a carrier main 😅
Balanced
Great torpedo runs