Because gengar has the trashiest passive in the game........ including talon flame even absol has increase crit rate... they should update the passives of old pokemon......
@@MiMi-Elona Yes Gengar passive need a change and his unite move need a buff like his unite move cooldown is so long compare to other speedster and is not very good
That's right but in the hands of an S tier player probably everything is S tier. I guess expect some of the supporter cuz they don't really do anything if u team is garbage.
@@shauryanegi6553Brother the skill gaps of other pokemon is way way smaller than Gengar. Doesn't matter if you are a S+ tier player and you are playing pokemon like Pikachu you cannot improve your skill even more because you already reach the highest skill ceiling of that pokemon so skill doesn't matter alot if you playing those broken no skill pokemon but if you are playing Gengar skill will matter alot
A speedster that evolves at lvl 9 needs something more than the other speedsters. It being ranged is cool but the other speedsters feel better because they get dashes to move in and out while gengar has trouble getting out of trouble if there isn't a target to dash too. I think they should make him bulkier or something to make that lvl 9 feel scary and a better unite move
But now Hex Gengar is balance like every pokemon in this game can counter it and then for some reason they nerf Gengar again when Gengar is not in the meta anymore they nerf all of his moveset range his shadow ball range dream eater range hex range sludge bomb range this nerf range is unacceptable now you cannot even escape with hex because the range nerf. They need to buff Gengar no matter what they really hate a pokemon that takes skill isn't it what is this balancing they ignore the broken no skill pokemon like Falink but nerf Gengar this unacceptable even Cris hate the Gengar range nerf because is so unnecessary
Gengar is a hard character to balance cause the Assassin class in general is just too hard to balance, they’re either VERY strong or VERY weak, not much of an in between. Getting one shot will never feel good
Speedsters should be the hardest and highest caliber of skill that players need to master to get a good result out of them. Imo the unite moves should be at 8 for all of them since they are meant to slightly fall off near the end of the match. They should all get their first and second moves at 5 and 7 and their unite moves at 8. This would make it more fair for them to go up against all rounders like azumarill, blaziken and other all rounders who get their unites earlier than speedsters. This would help reduce the power gap between all rounders and speedsters, since all rounders have just been doing the speedsters jobs, but far better. None of the speedsters should have click and point moves apart from their level 1 and level 3 moves but the rest of their moves should not be point and click. Have a cooldown reduction intergrated in their moves for all of them. Such as how gengar gets a CD reduction if its move lands on a wild pokemon or an enemy.
Yes speedster should be a pokemon that is hardest to play and need alot of skill but too bad now pokemon unite hate's skill like every pokemon in this game now take no skill like they make Leafeon one of the most broken speedster that takes no skill so RIP Gengar RIP skill and they nerf Gengar range for no reason
I don't think buffing Gengar that make him have his CD Reduce by just killing a wild pokemon is good idea because that's the main reason why Mimikyu is broken and is a Gengar but better version and take's no skill and that just remove the skill ceiling of Gengar and make him broken and not original anymore is just like Mimikyu so in my opinion just buff his range like all of his range because they nerf Gengar range for no reason in the last patch give him back his old range back
@@Agilepickleunite all rounders basically do the job of speedsters and attackers, look at mons like ceruledge, mimkyu, gyarados they render speedsters useless.
Gengar can be good as a last pick in draft if the opponent picks squishy characters But its hard to play Gengar without knowing what comp you will face
Believe me, there's many more good options other than Gengar like Zoroark, Meowscarada or even Talonflame in that situation. Gengar is not that hard, but the player base of Unite just sucks af when it comes to skillshots (like SB + DE Gengar)
Why play Gengar Dream Eater + Shadow ball... When you can play Mimikyu lol. Or can play Gengar just with HEX... But yeah, it's need some buff with a faster evolution on Gengar.
But faster evolution make Gengar Leafeon 2.0 because he evolve very fast and have a unite move at level 8 im not saying Gengar doesn't need a buff im just saying i don't think that a good idea just buff his range and his unite move
@@rasyawahyu4283wdy mean leafeon 2.0? Bro all the evees evolve early a 2stage evolution Gengar on the other hand is a 3stage And lvl7 evolution and lvl9 unite seems fair to me
I think if they did something across the game where you couldn’t get chain cc’ed then people would pick Gengar back up (and some others). It’s so rough to blind pick Gengar and then have A9, mammo, pika, snorkax, bro… a whole team of stuns
I main Gengar, he was the reason I downloaded Pokemon Unite in the first place. And I haven't touched the game in two weeks because he kinda suck right now, they should rework something about gengar
I remember I purchased gengar by mistake not knowing that I would spend 10k on this one shot doer . Also it was the first pokemon of mine for green badge
Every speedster should be like that right high risk high reward but only Gengar that play like that every speedster that is not Gengar can just spam dash move and takes no skill to play all you have to do is spam dash move if your hp is low spam dash move to escape is just dash move man thank god Gengar is not like those speedster that requre no skill to play and only spam dash move is just dashing simulator
@@luckylunch3256 New Gengar already exist is Mimikyu. Yeah Gengar maybe old but is Golden and well design maybe not the old Hex Gengar but other then that his well design speedster old timi care about the game because this is the first time they make a pokemon moba soo they care alot remember when they emergency nerf Sylveon so fast because they care about the game but now timi now just money they care about money and now they are very lazy about designing the Pokemon like the new speedster is just going to have dash move is just dashing simulator again and make broken Falink don't even care about nerfing it
@@rasyawahyu4283 Nah Mimikyu is defo Zera revamp. It's super similar stuff except Discharge. Lazy I don't think so they go above and beyond to make some cool gimmicky stuff but then idk if it's greed or absolute recklessness release seriously broken stuff that magically get nerfed in a week as if it was planned from the start to be nerfed in week to farm all the people buying the broken mon. Only ceruledge and blaziken has felt like they honest and good releases where I could actually play the game.
Would be too OP if Gengar resets worker like Mimikyu's? Gengar needs to get the KO on an enemy Pokémon while Mimikyu gets resets even on assists. We can keep the resets out of the wild Pokémon tho.
I think Gengar is definitely the worst speedster and a contender for the worst Pokémon period, but it’s still decent (at least in solo queue), so credit where credit is due to the fact that pretty much every Pokémon feels playable
To me both Zeraora and Gengar are the worst Speedsters in the game. But Zeraora is slightly worse than Gengar because at least Gengar has a way to come back.
@@JustaLonelyspirit Have you heard of consistency? If so, you will know that while they are good, they are way too inconsistent compared to other Speedsters. Like I said, being a worst Speedster is not bad in this age. It just means that they can do it but have very big inconsistencies compared to other Speedsters. I put Absol and Talonflame above them because they provide consistent results compared to these two. Next time, read the comment because I never said that they are bad. They are simply bad in their class.
@@JustaLonelyspirit It can work on certain scenarios and can look like op cuz of the wildcharge and all but its just not consistent enough Not to mention zeraora has bad reputation like greninja, cinderace zeraora has been power creeped for far too long Like zeraora wildcharge might have the invincibility but that's it You can only use zera well by using the unite multiple times Not to mention zeras early game is kinda bad too except it's kinda tanky in early game Gengar is good even though it doesn't have the mobility of a Speedster other than the unite it can get nice comeback exp
@@Imhungries Its way better than Gengar and Zeraora and much more consistent than them. That's for sure. If he has a bad win rate, that's actually skill issue on their part. Its not hard to win games with Talon unlike those two. I compared Talon to those two. Not overall because it's either Leafeon or Meowscarada.
I don't think there's really a bad speedster, I am a speedster main and I achieved at least 80k on every speedster mon, it only depends on the enemy comp most of the time
Too many counters! Miraidon counters Gengar because of its sleep immunity. Clefable’s gravity also hinders the second hit of Dream eater for some reason!
Wrong items Chris, you played with score glasses instead normal ones, check the build on the start Unfortunatelly my main Gengar is the worst spedster by far. Greetings from Argentina
Gengar is definitely not the worst speedster. Ask an owl, ask an attacker in general who gets one shot, ask a 50% HP all-rounder.. 😂😂😂. Gengar is fine, just the level 9 evolution is a bit of a bummer, and the fact that people don't prioritize getting level 9, and keep fighting as a Haunter.
@@dravalagon3691 Yeah so no speedster is bad duh! It's only mostly a skill issue. Yeah against some team comps speedsters in general doesn't perform good, but that's a team comp diff, not a speedster problem. For example some 5 random people decided to go 5 speedsters, but unlucky for them I was a ttar, and destroyed the shit out of those 5.
Definitely the worst. Outside of unite with near-no mobility like other speedsters. Basic attack is ass. Weak lv.5 No teamfight endgame. Ass unite move.
who would you say is the worst speedster?
Because gengar has the trashiest passive in the game........ including talon flame
even absol has increase crit rate...
they should update the passives of old pokemon......
Whatever Speedster my jungler decides to play
Gengar
@@MiMi-Elona Yes Gengar passive need a change and his unite move need a buff like his unite move cooldown is so long compare to other speedster and is not very good
Zeraora
Not just cuz of their reputation btw
"What am I supposed to do to Trevenant?"
"That's the neat part, you don't"
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sick timing on eject button btw 8:06
gengar is S tier in the hands of an S tier player
You are correct
They just dont know how to play with it
That's right but in the hands of an S tier player probably everything is S tier. I guess expect some of the supporter cuz they don't really do anything if u team is garbage.
But what if the opponent is S+ tier.🤔
@@shauryanegi6553Brother the skill gaps of other pokemon is way way smaller than Gengar. Doesn't matter if you are a S+ tier player and you are playing pokemon like Pikachu you cannot improve your skill even more because you already reach the highest skill ceiling of that pokemon so skill doesn't matter alot if you playing those broken no skill pokemon but if you are playing Gengar skill will matter alot
@@rasyawahyu4283 So matchup is what matters the most.
A speedster that evolves at lvl 9 needs something more than the other speedsters. It being ranged is cool but the other speedsters feel better because they get dashes to move in and out while gengar has trouble getting out of trouble if there isn't a target to dash too. I think they should make him bulkier or something to make that lvl 9 feel scary and a better unite move
Speedster in general is just hard to balance. Remember Gengar before it gets nerfed. (Not talking about 2021 Gengar )
They buff Mimikyu basically Gengar but Better if they buff Mimikyu that's mean Gengar also need to get a buff
But now Hex Gengar is balance like every pokemon in this game can counter it and then for some reason they nerf Gengar again when Gengar is not in the meta anymore they nerf all of his moveset range his shadow ball range dream eater range hex range sludge bomb range this nerf range is unacceptable now you cannot even escape with hex because the range nerf.
They need to buff Gengar no matter what they really hate a pokemon that takes skill isn't it what is this balancing they ignore the broken no skill pokemon like Falink but nerf Gengar this unacceptable even Cris hate the Gengar range nerf because is so unnecessary
Gengar is a hard character to balance cause the Assassin class in general is just too hard to balance, they’re either VERY strong or VERY weak, not much of an in between. Getting one shot will never feel good
But it still need a buff they nerf Gengar range for no reason in the last patch he still need a buff
@@rasyawahyu4283 Agreed, the range nerf was so random lol
Speedsters should be the hardest and highest caliber of skill that players need to master to get a good result out of them. Imo the unite moves should be at 8 for all of them since they are meant to slightly fall off near the end of the match. They should all get their first and second moves at 5 and 7 and their unite moves at 8. This would make it more fair for them to go up against all rounders like azumarill, blaziken and other all rounders who get their unites earlier than speedsters. This would help reduce the power gap between all rounders and speedsters, since all rounders have just been doing the speedsters jobs, but far better. None of the speedsters should have click and point moves apart from their level 1 and level 3 moves but the rest of their moves should not be point and click. Have a cooldown reduction intergrated in their moves for all of them. Such as how gengar gets a CD reduction if its move lands on a wild pokemon or an enemy.
Yes speedster should be a pokemon that is hardest to play and need alot of skill but too bad now pokemon unite hate's skill like every pokemon in this game now take no skill like they make Leafeon one of the most broken speedster that takes no skill so
RIP Gengar RIP skill and they nerf Gengar range for no reason
I don't think buffing Gengar that make him have his CD Reduce by just killing a wild pokemon is good idea because that's the main reason why Mimikyu is broken and is a Gengar but better version and take's no skill and that just remove the skill ceiling of Gengar and make him broken and not original anymore is just like Mimikyu so in my opinion just buff his range like all of his range because they nerf Gengar range for no reason in the last patch give him back his old range back
@@rasyawahyu4283 yh idk why i said wild pokemon but your changes would help it more
Bruh speedsters are the best class attackers are second defenders are third
@@Agilepickleunite all rounders basically do the job of speedsters and attackers, look at mons like ceruledge, mimkyu, gyarados they render speedsters useless.
Gengar can be good as a last pick in draft if the opponent picks squishy characters
But its hard to play Gengar without knowing what comp you will face
Believe me, there's many more good options other than Gengar like Zoroark, Meowscarada or even Talonflame in that situation.
Gengar is not that hard, but the player base of Unite just sucks af when it comes to skillshots (like SB + DE Gengar)
Why play Gengar Dream Eater + Shadow ball... When you can play Mimikyu lol.
Or can play Gengar just with HEX... But yeah, it's need some buff with a faster evolution on Gengar.
But faster evolution make Gengar Leafeon 2.0 because he evolve very fast and have a unite move at level 8 im not saying Gengar doesn't need a buff im just saying i don't think that a good idea just buff his range and his unite move
@@rasyawahyu4283wdy mean leafeon 2.0?
Bro all the evees evolve early a 2stage evolution
Gengar on the other hand is a 3stage
And lvl7 evolution and lvl9 unite seems fair to me
@@Lucarecus Because it evolve fast
@@Lucarecus Because it evolve faster
I think if they did something across the game where you couldn’t get chain cc’ed then people would pick Gengar back up (and some others). It’s so rough to blind pick Gengar and then have A9, mammo, pika, snorkax, bro… a whole team of stuns
I always wondered why gengars unite was a strong punch when every move is some kind of cast, then I remembered gastly learns every elemental punch
He is the worst, u miss ur skill u die. they should revert his dream eater back to original range so he can become playable.
Like what about zoroark, leafeon etc?
YES You are very right and why they nerf All Gengar move Range in the first place his not even meta give me back his original range
not just buff his dream eater range buff all of his range like his shadow ball range Hex range and sludge bomb range
@@cartoon20 Because they nerf Gengar range now you cannot even escape with Hex you can only use Hex as a offensive option
Ye, ig thats true but then again, most speedsters are high skilled mons that carry. So if u wanna carry, u gotta hit em balls.
I main Gengar, he was the reason I downloaded Pokemon Unite in the first place.
And I haven't touched the game in two weeks because he kinda suck right now, they should rework something about gengar
Funny enough they actually already do that they rework Gengar so in level 5 he learn Dream eater or Hex instead of Shadow ball or Sludge bomb
How is cris crazy with every single pokemon bro ain’t no way
@@jamesperrott1 I’m only good w supporters and speedsters tbh but I’m not good at this game I only play it occasionally for fun
I remember I purchased gengar by mistake not knowing that I would spend 10k on this one shot doer . Also it was the first pokemon of mine for green badge
Speedsters are all really good but Gengar is the definition of high risk high reward.
Not just that he is also the definition of Skill The King Of Skill
Every speedster should be like that right high risk high reward but only Gengar that play like that every speedster that is not Gengar can just spam dash move and takes no skill to play all you have to do is spam dash move if your hp is low spam dash move to escape is just dash move man thank god Gengar is not like those speedster that requre no skill to play and only spam dash move is just dashing simulator
@@rasyawahyu4283 Gengar is just old if he were to release now he would have probably been too broken like zoro and Leafeon
@@luckylunch3256 New Gengar already exist is Mimikyu.
Yeah Gengar maybe old but is Golden and well design maybe not the old Hex Gengar but other then that his well design speedster old timi care about the game because this is the first time they make a pokemon moba soo they care alot remember when they emergency nerf Sylveon so fast because they care about the game but now timi now just money they care about money and now they are very lazy about designing the Pokemon like the new speedster is just going to have dash move is just dashing simulator again and make broken Falink don't even care about nerfing it
@@rasyawahyu4283 Nah Mimikyu is defo Zera revamp. It's super similar stuff except Discharge. Lazy I don't think so they go above and beyond to make some cool gimmicky stuff but then idk if it's greed or absolute recklessness release seriously broken stuff that magically get nerfed in a week as if it was planned from the start to be nerfed in week to farm all the people buying the broken mon. Only ceruledge and blaziken has felt like they honest and good releases where I could actually play the game.
Would be too OP if Gengar resets worker like Mimikyu's? Gengar needs to get the KO on an enemy Pokémon while Mimikyu gets resets even on assists. We can keep the resets out of the wild Pokémon tho.
No that Op because that's the main reason why Mimikyu is broken and Gengar but better and also takes no skill to play
I think Gengar is definitely the worst speedster and a contender for the worst Pokémon period, but it’s still decent (at least in solo queue), so credit where credit is due to the fact that pretty much every Pokémon feels playable
gender could use some tune-up with it's evolution and stats buff
It is an excellent Pokemon if you don't Sludge Bomb Dream Eater and Hex Ball.
To me both Zeraora and Gengar are the worst Speedsters in the game. But Zeraora is slightly worse than Gengar because at least Gengar has a way to come back.
Are you kidding me? All speedster are good and all of them can 1v5 if you play them the way they should be played. Nonsense.
@@JustaLonelyspirit Have you heard of consistency? If so, you will know that while they are good, they are way too inconsistent compared to other Speedsters. Like I said, being a worst Speedster is not bad in this age. It just means that they can do it but have very big inconsistencies compared to other Speedsters. I put Absol and Talonflame above them because they provide consistent results compared to these two. Next time, read the comment because I never said that they are bad. They are simply bad in their class.
@@JustaLonelyspirit
It can work on certain scenarios and can look like op cuz of the wildcharge and all but its just not consistent enough
Not to mention zeraora has bad reputation like greninja, cinderace
zeraora has been power creeped for far too long
Like zeraora wildcharge might have the invincibility but that's it
You can only use zera well by using the unite multiple times
Not to mention zeras early game is kinda bad too except it's kinda tanky in early game
Gengar is good even though it doesn't have the mobility of a Speedster other than the unite it can get nice comeback exp
@@UltimateRaven agreed
@@Imhungries Its way better than Gengar and Zeraora and much more consistent than them. That's for sure. If he has a bad win rate, that's actually skill issue on their part. Its not hard to win games with Talon unlike those two. I compared Talon to those two. Not overall because it's either Leafeon or Meowscarada.
i really think gengar should be evolving by lvl 8 like Machamp cause both belong to the same evolutive method in the main games
Well gengar imo suffers bc Dream Eater can be messed up if someone kses you and Hex can get canceled by full heal.
That Cinder was insane
I’ve seen people play hex shadow ball in ranked and still wonder why it’s a bad Mon
7:38 i am sure...if that gengar was my teammate he would have went to score goal and die
Doesnt matter who sucks as long as team mates play well
Need skill and good device you can play good every Pokemon if Timmy don't kill Pokemon after l
Nerf 😂
Sometimes is skill issue.
Sometimes it's team composition issue.
Man this is so true
I don't think there's really a bad speedster, I am a speedster main and I achieved at least 80k on every speedster mon, it only depends on the enemy comp most of the time
Gengar dont evolve after full clear?
Not even close, how bad gengar is.
It's the only speedster that cant carry past 1250 ranked opponents
Pokemon unite community have alot of skill issue and Gengar is a pokemon that need skill to play so that's why he have a negative win rate
Once u learn how to play with gengar this pokemon alone can make difference...🔥🔥
I have my highest no. Of games played with Gengar almost a blue badge
If i want a speedster i got mimikyu, the soloq lobby full of dumbheads, better play op mons
Gengar isn’t terrible. The Gengar playerbase however… YIKES. 😬
Too many counters! Miraidon counters Gengar because of its sleep immunity. Clefable’s gravity also hinders the second hit of Dream eater for some reason!
Yeah they need to make dream eater to be unstoppable so the damage cannot get cancel
Wrong items Chris, you played with score glasses instead normal ones, check the build on the start
Unfortunatelly my main Gengar is the worst spedster by far. Greetings from Argentina
night slash zoro is worse in my opinion....feint atk is A tier tho...
While gengar is the worst speedster I don’t see it as horrible just outclassed by the others
OMG why they nerf Gengar range for no reason 😡😡
Are you kidding to us😅😅
Gengar is definitely not the worst speedster. Ask an owl, ask an attacker in general who gets one shot, ask a 50% HP all-rounder.. 😂😂😂. Gengar is fine, just the level 9 evolution is a bit of a bummer, and the fact that people don't prioritize getting level 9, and keep fighting as a Haunter.
What would be the worst speedster then? All of what you said applies to all speedsters
@@dravalagon3691 Yeah so no speedster is bad duh! It's only mostly a skill issue. Yeah against some team comps speedsters in general doesn't perform good, but that's a team comp diff, not a speedster problem. For example some 5 random people decided to go 5 speedsters, but unlucky for them I was a ttar, and destroyed the shit out of those 5.
zoreora
Definitely the worst.
Outside of unite with near-no mobility like other speedsters.
Basic attack is ass.
Weak lv.5
No teamfight endgame.
Ass unite move.
Yeah you are very right don't forget the passive tho
@@rasyawahyu4283 Oh yeh, my bad
That sucks too 🤣🤣😅
they really made a speedster with no speed damn😭
Gardivor or gengar
Gengar
play gengar compare to other speedster feel like a handicapp . Day1 unite CD worst passive in the game high risk mid reward
Gengar doesn't even feel like have a passive
Na it's good 👍
Damn 3 seconds ago. It feels illegal to be here this early lol
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zera is very close too