Myself and my dad worked on the demolition of Creams Paper Mill. To the left of that brick staircase was an old chimney flue tunnel that ran from that concrete section up to the main site up the stairs. There was also a chimney that stood at the bottom of the stairs. The main building itself had a canal running underneath it which our excavator fell through! Good to see the site featured on a video.
Over the years of watching your videos, Martin, you have developed a presentation style that reminds me of Fred Dibnah, enthusiastic, informal, yet informative.
That breach washed all of the material away, right to the bedrock! Martin, you have an amazing ability to paint a story, and walk us through the actual place where history took place. Thank you!
I amazed how that tree grew out of the brick canal retaining wall at 1:36, nature at its best. This shows the power of gravity / build strong or lose. Martin, you do such a great job at keeping your local history alive, your videos are such a joy to watch. James really adds to the videos, you're lucky to have him as a friend...... Thanks......
Thank you for another fascinating trip thru history. I live in upstate New York, USA. I wish there was someone like you, here. There is so much history, so many stories around us. It would so enrich our lives to understand the things that shaped the world we live in. History shaped, roads, and waterways and current regulations. Thank you. I am always tickled when I get to watch one of your videos.
A local who was cycling to work had a lucky escape. Mr John W. Martin, of Loxham Street, Bolton, said: “I was cycling along the bank when I suddenly saw signs of a subsidence begin on a bend in the canal. I could not stop and my only chance was to ride furiously along the two feet of earth which remained. As I passed over the earth fell away behind the back wheel of my bicycle and I was thrown off. The noise was deafening."
It's such a privilege as always to see an elderly gent so excited about his heritage. Perhaps get James to do the running about while you do a voiceover? You might do yourself a mischief!
Where I live contractors were digging a sewer tunnel under the Erie canal when the ceiling collapsed causing a nasty flood that destroyed several expensive homes. A county government employee warned the contractor that they were digging uphill but the contractor called downtown and the employee was told to shut up and let the"experts" get on with the job. That he was vindicated meant that the homeowners and county had grounds to sue the contractor. Plus two of his superiors were fired from their jobs! The Erie canal is more then 3 times the depth and width of any canal in England and if it hadn't been for the automatic flood gates even more water could have leaked out.
5:00 Ohmygod, I thank you so much for this bit of enlightenment. I grew up near a weir shaped like this and in it's past history it did, indeed, feed the water into a mill, that was disused and decayed by the time I started walking the area. But this makes it so clear what was going on. Dight's Mill did flour and they build the Dight's Falls weir. But until now, I did not know how it worked, thinking it was just a normal weir to hold back flooding. Thanks so much Martin. And the intrepid James.
James, if you want to be introduced. I suggest remembering to bring a spoon for the brew. Martin, great job showing what happened. Those old pictures helped a lot.
What a fascinating glimpse into the history and sad downfall of the Bolton &Bury Canal. The size of the slip was just horrifying. What a beautiful asset to the canal system it would be to have this open.
Is there a difference between manservant and valet? "James, make the tea." "James did not see the stairs. Run James Run!" "Turn the camera this way James." Then James does not even get an introduction at the beginning of the video. Poor James. Maybe Master Martin will give you half a day off for Christmas. LOL
Binge watching your videos and got to this one. Myself and my husband played around here as kids. It brings back so many memories. My father in law was 5 when the canal breached and used to tell us all about it, stories handed down from his dad who worked at Ladyshore Colliery. The "Beach" you went onto, is where we took our daughters dog for walks years later. I absolutely love this video. Thanks 👍 The old black and white photo's were brilliant.
Just staggering photo of that boat hanging over the edge. And to see massive chunks of the wall still there. Great find and great story. Oh, and buy yourselves a camping spoon!
Enjoyed the video as always. I have a suggestion for a story you might be interested in: It was on 30th April 1945 in the shunting yard at Brookside Colliery, Wigan. Under the colliery sidings was the main shaft of a disused mine. It was mine No. 7 unofficially called "New Zealand". A large hole opened up and a shunting locomotive "Dolly", the driver called Ludovic Berry and 13 loaded coal wagons fell in. The locomotive apparently wedged in the shaft sides, at least temporarily, at about 100ft (30m) down but nothing was seen of the driver. In the end, the hole was roofed over and there is today a memorial to the driver which serves as his gravestone. I am aware of the irony that the man buried far below (some say 1200ft [390m]) has the surname Berry. There are much longer accounts and photos available online. If anyone is interested as to where this accident happened the area covered by the mine is now wooded and is off the B5237 Bickershaw Lane, Abram. Nearby is a traveller camp. From the only photograph that I could find the locomotive was an 0-6-0 saddle tank shunter (with inside cylinders). It carried the nameplate "Dorothy" although everyone called her "Dolly". I could not discern any other identifying information. I do not know whether you might be interested but I thought I would share it.
Great video Martin . I’ve fished for pike on the canal , there are some 20 lb plus monsters in there . I’d heard the tale of the collapse but no details so thanks for that detailed video on such a fascinating story 🧱👍🏼
As per usual Martin 10 times better than some of the run of the mill rubbish on the T.V. Perhaps you should be awarded some of the BBC's licence fee. Cheers to you both. Looking forward to the next one.
Another facinating insight into the history of our region brought to life by Laurel and Hardy, seriously that’s the way to learn ,hard facts in a humourous way, thanks again Martin and spooney James, ps please introduce him as he is now an integral part of the vids!.
Fascinating video, Martin, bringing history to life. Well done. I'd also like to thank the other commenters for their true life accounts. Brings out a lot of the impact that disaster must have had on them then.
Another great episode of the " No Spoon Explores!" Haha! Really enjoyed this one! Especially because you took us to the actual sites, and showed photos of the collapse then , and video of the sites now! Plus calling James a "Swine" was a bonus! 😂
Great video as always, but a special thank you for James for his camera work, it looks very slippery and uneven but he still managed to produce a really professional and product, thanks James.
Thanks for yet another fantastic video Martin featuring our now rapidly disappearing history. Would it be possible to possibly find the site of Margaret Barlow's tea room and take James AND teaspoon. Be a fantastic place to have a brew and a half eaten scotch egg 😋
@@erikmorrison2355 Great to know that what's now gone, isn't entirely forgotten. I expect that they are okay for teaspoons down at the garden centre too 👍
That was fantastic thanks Martin. I hope no-one was killed there. What a horrible mess. Probably sounded like an earthquake.. loved the walk I didn’t get puffed out like you too, lol. Thanks so much for taking me along. Please stay safe and take care
Wow what a documentary this is. Absolutely brilliant. Us up here in Scotland dont know the half. Well done. Hello James the Tea Man. What would Martin do without you keeping him well tea'd up and fed even without a spoon. Fantastic thank you
One of your old photos shows just what happened- the picture looking up from the riverbank. There's a layer of stone under the whole ravine, sloped downward towards the river. The more brick and earth they piled up along the canal, the greater the pull downward. If they didn't dig deeply enough to reach the stone, and firmly attach the canal structure to the underlying rock, it was bound to give way, eventually.
This for me personally, this was one of your best videos. And to have those old photos at hand was fantastic. And those great big retaining walls still there where they fell, amazing! We recently had a canal breach on the Ashby Canal near me. I wish I'd have filmed it now! But yeah, great stuff martin!
As always fantastic video...Martin and James.. luv the passion you show in your videos..you always make me smile..luv ya both cannot wait for next video ..stay safe guys x
Amazing video. That tree growing out of the canal wall to the debris still at the bottom of the ravine al those years later! Cheers to Martin and James!
Hi Martin really interesting video, you got around like a gazelle up the embankment!! I like the way you two joke with each other and just smile. Thanks xxx
I'm no geologist mind you, but I would say the failure was inevitable and not due to the colliery. If you look closely at the picture at 15:38, you will see the bare face of of some hard rock layer. If you look closer still, you can see there isn't any evidence of the massive brick and stone sections even putting a scratch in it. Several years back, we had a massive landslide in the area of Oso, WA. It took out that whole community. The cause was an uplift layer like this with a week clay layer above it. Tons of loose rock/gravel layers were piled on top of this clay layer. The water would sift down and, unable to permeate the hard layer, would collect around the clay layer. One particularly rainy set of weeks, the clay layer finally failed. The landslide was so fast and massive that it's thought most of the victims died from the concussion blast that preceded flow of debris. I would speculate that there might have been a "slippery" layer on top of that layer of impenetrable rock. The weight of the massive retaining wall added to the strain and it eventually slid. Oso on a smaller scale. I would venture that the river follows the base of that same uplift.
Why does Laurel and Hardy pop up in my brain every now and then when I watch you two? 🤣 Fantastic story and brilliant filming. Must have taken some time to ressearch. I'm impressed! 👍 Love from Denmark
Can only imagine what a sight it would have been to see that lot collapse down the embankment. It's probably fortune it did partially block the Irwell. Had it not the fast moving floodwater may have caused major issues for the surrounding area. Brilliant video as always and nicely researched.
As a recent sub and having binge watched quite a bit it's good to have something familiar appear with the old bridge in the river, it makes it easier to place where everything is in relation to other videos that have been posted and adds another layer of history to the other uploads.
The Leeds & Liverpool Canal suffered a breach just a few months ago. I don't know if it's accessible at all, or if they've blocked it all off, but may be worth having a look at that. There's videos of it showing the water draining out the canal at the breach. Not as spectacular as this one would've been, I'm sure.
Another fine video Martin i was very impressed with your recent film of the former Gambleside Colliery especially the DrystaneVaulting in that tunnel surely that should be preserved!
I've been waiting for you to do a video on this area of the canal! Read a bit about it on the info board nearby, but tells more than the board and wiki does! Amazing job.
At 15:27 it looks like the spoil had been on top of bedrock, if that was the case it's no surprise it eventually slipped away. I wonder if colliery spoil had been tipped onto the bedrock previously?
As I said before my old dog walking / stomping ground. Many happy hours around there with a stick ( like yours ) and a Lakeland Border Terrier that unlike James always remembered the spoon 😂. Long overdue a return visit after 50 years of living my life in that area. ( Keep expecting you to bump into my brother with his dogs out and about ) looking forwards to the next episode. How I miss living up there….
Great video, especially your reconstruction of the landslide using some amazing old photographs. I guess it makes any restoration of the canal impossible.
Another great video Martin 😊 good job James was there with his cup's of tea 🍵 no Eccles cakes! #sortitoutjames 💯💯👊🏻 look forward to seeing the next 🤟🏻 take care out there boy's 👊🏻
Water is unique in that it expands when it freezes. Too many winters probably took its toll on the brick faults. Each winter, water seeps into the voids, freezes, expands, and makes the cracks a little wider. Stone blocks might have been a better choice, but were probably too costly or simply not available. Hindsight . . .
Surprisingly stone walls are not as strong as brick! One thing i thought I caught was bricks laid sideways, course on course! That is NOT a good way to do it, but maybe they were thinking of lateral strength?
It might have been the mine pumping out the water from the tunnels underneath, dried out enough to cause shrinkage to the earth underneath. Drynesss is not natural to this area.
I was down at Nob End today on a bike ride. It would be fantastic if they could restore the Manchester, Bolton and Bury but looking at earthworks like this makes you realise the costs that that will likely entail!
There is a building firm that wants to build on the old paper mill land, one of the conditions to allow permission is that they have to reinstate the collapsed canal..
Another great video Martin, as it happens i live very close to nob end and the canal in Little Lever.. Almost in the village, so i know it very well.Also that beach is known as the Radcliffe beach lol
A big thank you to both of you very interesting, love your pictures of the before and after look forward to the next instalment. have walked parts but good to see how you have dug in to the history
I love your videos! I broke a canal once. We were building a block of flats and shops on Whitworth St West, near the Ritz (grab a granny) venue. Your video about the 'plug' in the canal showed my handiwork. Also I loved your Bollington vid.
Thanks guys for another brilliant and informative video. It's made my day. The music is hauntingly beautiful and appropriate to the story you told. And your 'brew stops' are becoming a feature in their own right! Will there, or won't there be a spoon? Who ate all the pies (or the Scotch egg?) And where will you stop to have it. Fabulous!
Another interesting vlog, I have enjoyed learning about Manchester and all the surrounding areas. The after photos of what happened to the canal was amazing to see, thank you Martin and greetings to James. :)
Oh what a great video again... Thank you so much for your work... I follow you for 2 years I think... And I never ever regret it... Thank you from Germany... 🙂
Martin, I have a theory. Maybe others have posed similar. Going by the famous photo near the end of the video, it looks like the ground slid right off a shelf of shale or slate. Water had likely seeped into the top material of the big slope at high rates from the canal and began to loosen the soil from the slate, until the inevitable collapse!
Great video Martin. That must have been a tremendous site to see when that happened. The engineering that must have gone into that to just shore up the canal in the first place.... wow
Looking at the old photos they obviously didn't realise the role trees play in stabilisation of slopes ...looks like they cleared most of the trees to make the canal ,...can't believe you had no spoon.:) ... Another very interesting video thanks guys.
What a brilliant informative interesting video. You videos are so entertaining. They are well researched and well edited. I remember once reading, 'The complete angler' by Issac Walton. (In the mid 1600's) It described the river Irwell as one of the best salmon fishing rivers in the north!!
Been looking forward to this Martin Zero Sunday night. You always find these interesting remote places with so much history. Great black and white pictures of the place at the time of the landslip. Poor James the tea lad needs more training no spoon and only half a Scotch egg lol.
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Myself and my dad worked on the demolition of Creams Paper Mill. To the left of that brick staircase was an old chimney flue tunnel that ran from that concrete section up to the main site up the stairs. There was also a chimney that stood at the bottom of the stairs. The main building itself had a canal running underneath it which our excavator fell through! Good to see the site featured on a video.
I just had a look on google and there’s some very interesting photos of the demolition it looks very different now
@@MidgeMan13 There's an entire gallery about it on Flickr. Interesting to see
Over the years of watching your videos, Martin, you have developed a presentation style that reminds me of Fred Dibnah, enthusiastic, informal, yet informative.
that tree growing out of the wall is spectacular
That breach washed all of the material away, right to the bedrock! Martin, you have an amazing ability to paint a story, and walk us through the actual place where history took place. Thank you!
I amazed how that tree grew out of the brick canal retaining wall at 1:36, nature at its best. This shows the power of gravity / build strong or lose. Martin, you do such a great job at keeping your local history alive, your videos are such a joy to watch. James really adds to the videos, you're lucky to have him as a friend...... Thanks......
Yes I was amazed about that tree as well. The power of nature.
Over time the tree roots will start to weaker the wall. Eventually causing more of the wall to collapse down to the river.
Thank you for another fascinating trip thru history. I live in upstate New York, USA. I wish there was someone like you, here. There is so much history, so many stories around us. It would so enrich our lives to understand the things that shaped the world we live in. History shaped, roads, and waterways and current regulations. Thank you. I am always tickled when I get to watch one of your videos.
Hi neighbor!
I'm in CT.
I also love his videos.
A local who was cycling to work had a lucky escape.
Mr John W. Martin, of Loxham Street, Bolton, said: “I was cycling along the bank when I suddenly saw signs of a subsidence begin on a bend in the canal. I could not stop and my only chance was to ride furiously along the two feet of earth which remained. As I passed over the earth fell away behind the back wheel of my bicycle and I was thrown off. The noise was deafening."
so... Mr John W. Martin caused the collapse lol
I'm Greek and I like the fact that the British are protecting their cultural heritage
We love irony.
It's such a privilege as always to see an elderly gent so excited about his heritage. Perhaps get James to do the running about while you do a voiceover? You might do yourself a mischief!
Ha ha thank you, yes I really should be aware of my age
Where I live contractors were digging a sewer tunnel under the Erie canal when the ceiling collapsed causing a nasty flood that destroyed several expensive homes. A county government employee warned the contractor that they were digging uphill but the contractor called downtown and the employee was told to shut up and let the"experts" get on with the job. That he was vindicated meant that the homeowners and county had grounds to sue the contractor. Plus two of his superiors were fired from their jobs! The Erie canal is more then 3 times the depth and width of any canal in England and if it hadn't been for the automatic flood gates even more water could have leaked out.
5:00 Ohmygod, I thank you so much for this bit of enlightenment. I grew up near a weir shaped like this and in it's past history it did, indeed, feed the water into a mill, that was disused and decayed by the time I started walking the area. But this makes it so clear what was going on. Dight's Mill did flour and they build the Dight's Falls weir. But until now, I did not know how it worked, thinking it was just a normal weir to hold back flooding. Thanks so much Martin. And the intrepid James.
Thanks Valerie. Yes whenever Iam at a weir now. I alway look for the possible diversion of water. Sometimes its not always obvious though
James, if you want to be introduced. I suggest remembering to bring a spoon for the brew. Martin, great job showing what happened. Those old pictures helped a lot.
His intro could be “James, brew-maker and keeper of the spoon” 😄
@@Gappasaurus Yup, that sounds right. But only if James remembers to bring the spoon!
What a fascinating glimpse into the history and sad downfall of the Bolton &Bury Canal. The size of the slip was just horrifying. What a beautiful asset to the canal system it would be to have this open.
Is there a difference between manservant and valet? "James, make the tea." "James did not see the stairs. Run James Run!" "Turn the camera this way James." Then James does not even get an introduction at the beginning of the video. Poor James. Maybe Master Martin will give you half a day off for Christmas. LOL
No day off at Xmas. He’s my servant, bollocks to him 🥴
"I see a vacant seat in the poor chimney corner, and a crutch without an owner, carefully preserved."
He has to remember to bring a spoon before he can get a day off.
Binge watching your videos and got to this one.
Myself and my husband played around here as kids. It brings back so many memories. My father in law was 5 when the canal breached and used to tell us all about it, stories handed down from his dad who worked at Ladyshore Colliery. The "Beach" you went onto, is where we took our daughters dog for walks years later. I absolutely love this video. Thanks 👍
The old black and white photo's were brilliant.
As always a lovely and interesting video, don't forget to introduce James, he's very important - chief brew maker ! 🤣
Just staggering photo of that boat hanging over the edge. And to see massive chunks of the wall still there. Great find and great story. Oh, and buy yourselves a camping spoon!
Enjoyed the video as always.
I have a suggestion for a story you might be interested in:
It was on 30th April 1945 in the shunting yard at Brookside Colliery, Wigan.
Under the colliery sidings was the main shaft of a disused mine. It was mine No. 7 unofficially called "New Zealand".
A large hole opened up and a shunting locomotive "Dolly", the driver called Ludovic Berry and 13 loaded coal wagons fell in.
The locomotive apparently wedged in the shaft sides, at least temporarily, at about 100ft (30m) down but nothing was seen of the driver.
In the end, the hole was roofed over and there is today a memorial to the driver which serves as his gravestone.
I am aware of the irony that the man buried far below (some say 1200ft [390m]) has the surname Berry.
There are much longer accounts and photos available online.
If anyone is interested as to where this accident happened the area covered by the mine is now wooded and is off the B5237 Bickershaw Lane, Abram. Nearby is a traveller camp.
From the only photograph that I could find the locomotive was an 0-6-0 saddle tank shunter (with inside cylinders). It carried the nameplate "Dorothy" although everyone called her "Dolly". I could not discern any other identifying information.
I do not know whether you might be interested but I thought I would share it.
Hi Patrick, thanks for the suggestion and yes I have heard that story its very sad.
Wow, I saw a face near the root of that tree at 1:38
Great viewing for Sunday night. Thanks Martin and James
I appreciate James ... and his skills... glad he was properly introduced....OOOEEE mate, great tea maker and wondrous adventurer, for Martin Zero
Enjoy these treks with you gentleman so very much, Thanks. I'll return on your next adventure ... Wonderful
Great video Martin . I’ve fished for pike on the canal , there are some 20 lb plus monsters in there .
I’d heard the tale of the collapse but no details so thanks for that detailed video on such a fascinating story 🧱👍🏼
Pike scare me
@@MartinZero I’ve seen a 20 + pounder there in a match . Getting on for 4 foot long , beautiful fish 😍🧱👍🏽
As per usual Martin 10 times better than some of the run of the mill rubbish on the T.V. Perhaps
you should be awarded some of the BBC's licence fee. Cheers to you both. Looking forward to the
next one.
Another facinating insight into the history of our region brought to life by Laurel and Hardy, seriously that’s the way to learn ,hard facts in a humourous way, thanks again Martin and spooney James, ps please introduce him as he is now an integral part of the vids!.
Fascinating story telling as always, went to Salford university in the late 70s, much has changed since then not always for the better.
Thanks John
Fascinating video, Martin, bringing history to life. Well done. I'd also like to thank the other commenters for their true life accounts. Brings out a lot of the impact that disaster must have had on them then.
Another fascinating story for a Sunday afternoon! You never run out of places to take us. Thanks.
Enjoyed that very much, how you used the old photos to recapture the drama of the event
Thanks 😀👍🏻
Another great episode of the " No Spoon Explores!" Haha! Really enjoyed this one! Especially because you took us to the actual sites, and showed photos of the collapse then , and video of the sites now! Plus calling James a "Swine" was a bonus! 😂
Love your old man stick Martin🤣Seriously,thanks for another great video and James too.👍
Great video as always, but a special thank you for James for his camera work, it looks very slippery and uneven but he still managed to produce a really professional and product, thanks James.
Thanks for yet another fantastic video Martin featuring our now rapidly disappearing history. Would it be possible to possibly find the site of Margaret Barlow's tea room and take James AND teaspoon. Be a fantastic place to have a brew and a half eaten scotch egg 😋
Its a part of the giants seat nursery at the bottom of folds Road Ringley @Martin zero
@@erikmorrison2355 Great to know that what's now gone, isn't entirely forgotten. I expect that they are okay for teaspoons down at the garden centre too 👍
That was fantastic thanks Martin. I hope no-one was killed there. What a horrible mess. Probably sounded like an earthquake.. loved the walk I didn’t get puffed out like you too, lol. Thanks so much for taking me along. Please stay safe and take care
Wow what a documentary this is. Absolutely brilliant. Us up here in Scotland dont know the half. Well done. Hello James the Tea Man. What would Martin do without you keeping him well tea'd up and fed even without a spoon. Fantastic thank you
Fantastic video I never knew the canal existed until I saw it in your videos. It's great to find lost history so close to home
Great story. Always amazes me in the old photos at the lack of trees. It doesn't take long for mother nature to reclaim any spare land.
One of your old photos shows just what happened- the picture looking up from the riverbank. There's a layer of stone under the whole ravine, sloped downward towards the river. The more brick and earth they piled up along the canal, the greater the pull downward. If they didn't dig deeply enough to reach the stone, and firmly attach the canal structure to the underlying rock, it was bound to give way, eventually.
This for me personally, this was one of your best videos. And to have those old photos at hand was fantastic. And those great big retaining walls still there where they fell, amazing!
We recently had a canal breach on the Ashby Canal near me. I wish I'd have filmed it now! But yeah, great stuff martin!
As always fantastic video...Martin and James.. luv the passion you show in your videos..you always make me smile..luv ya both cannot wait for next video ..stay safe guys x
Amazing video. That tree growing out of the canal wall to the debris still at the bottom of the ravine al those years later! Cheers to Martin and James!
Amazing photographs really helped to understand what happened. Very enjoyable!
Hi Martin really interesting video, you got around like a gazelle up the embankment!! I like the way you two joke with each other and just smile. Thanks xxx
I'm no geologist mind you, but I would say the failure was inevitable and not due to the colliery. If you look closely at the picture at 15:38, you will see the bare face of of some hard rock layer. If you look closer still, you can see there isn't any evidence of the massive brick and stone sections even putting a scratch in it.
Several years back, we had a massive landslide in the area of Oso, WA. It took out that whole community. The cause was an uplift layer like this with a week clay layer above it. Tons of loose rock/gravel layers were piled on top of this clay layer. The water would sift down and, unable to permeate the hard layer, would collect around the clay layer. One particularly rainy set of weeks, the clay layer finally failed. The landslide was so fast and massive that it's thought most of the victims died from the concussion blast that preceded flow of debris.
I would speculate that there might have been a "slippery" layer on top of that layer of impenetrable rock. The weight of the massive retaining wall added to the strain and it eventually slid. Oso on a smaller scale. I would venture that the river follows the base of that same uplift.
Thanks for some great memories...we went exploring the same area pre Covid lockdown..had our brew by the river in Ladyshore woods ....
Why does Laurel and Hardy pop up in my brain every now and then when I watch you two? 🤣
Fantastic story and brilliant filming. Must have taken some time to ressearch. I'm impressed! 👍
Love from Denmark
Laugh Out Loud - yes! I love Martin and James but yes L&H reminds me now.
Haha! I’m often reminded of them too! 😂
Can only imagine what a sight it would have been to see that lot collapse down the embankment. It's probably fortune it did partially block the Irwell. Had it not the fast moving floodwater may have caused major issues for the surrounding area. Brilliant video as always and nicely researched.
Yeah part of me wishes to have seen it. Thanks Urbexy 👍
As a recent sub and having binge watched quite a bit it's good to have something familiar appear with the old bridge in the river, it makes it easier to place where everything is in relation to other videos that have been posted and adds another layer of history to the other uploads.
Absolutely brilliant again that Martin, cheers!
Another great video. They are so interesting. I love canals and their history.
Andy from Sydney.
The perfect way to enjoy a Sunday!
👍
Wonderfully interesting, full of information as ever too. Many thanks Martin and James. Btw, where's the spoon, James? :)
The Leeds & Liverpool Canal suffered a breach just a few months ago. I don't know if it's accessible at all, or if they've blocked it all off, but may be worth having a look at that. There's videos of it showing the water draining out the canal at the breach. Not as spectacular as this one would've been, I'm sure.
Another fine video Martin i was very impressed with your recent film of the former Gambleside Colliery especially the DrystaneVaulting in that tunnel surely that should be preserved!
Another great video.
You make the stories come alive.
A great and dramatic re-telling of a part of history I knew nothing about. Many thanks.
I had just commented on IG about spoons, and the start of this video answered the question. Thank you both for a very entraining video.
I've been waiting for you to do a video on this area of the canal! Read a bit about it on the info board nearby, but tells more than the board and wiki does! Amazing job.
Thanks very much Jason
Well done Martin another great film!
Thanks Martin for a great vlog and it'll be very interesting to see the rest of this adventure. Take care and all the best. Stevie
How much more interesting stuff have you got up there to visit??!!!!!! Great stuff guys, James does a good job with the camera👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
At 15:27 it looks like the spoil had been on top of bedrock, if that was the case it's no surprise it eventually slipped away. I wonder if colliery spoil had been tipped onto the bedrock previously?
absolutely fascinating thank you for yet another great vid. good camera work from James and great presentation form the main man
As I said before my old dog walking / stomping ground. Many happy hours around there with a stick ( like yours ) and a Lakeland Border Terrier that unlike James always remembered the spoon 😂. Long overdue a return visit after 50 years of living my life in that area. ( Keep expecting you to bump into my brother with his dogs out and about ) looking forwards to the next episode. How I miss living up there….
Another fascinating and well presented piece. Thank you both.
Thank you
Great video, especially your reconstruction of the landslide using some amazing old photographs. I guess it makes any restoration of the canal impossible.
Another marvel showing some great local history.
Another great video Martin 😊 good job James was there with his cup's of tea 🍵 no Eccles cakes! #sortitoutjames 💯💯👊🏻 look forward to seeing the next 🤟🏻 take care out there boy's 👊🏻
Always enjoy your reports Mr Martin ,thank you ! PS As a boy I used to build bridges very similar to that at 1:23 from my Meccanno set early 1950 s !
Incredibly insightful video as usual. Love from the other side of the world!
Another fascinating video Martin & James, as are the comments, really adding more insight to the breach.
Great video as always, brought bk a few memories of my truck driving days in the 90s going in an out of Creams Paper Mill.
Water is unique in that it expands when it freezes. Too many winters probably took its toll on the brick faults. Each winter, water seeps into the voids, freezes, expands, and makes the cracks a little wider. Stone blocks might have been a better choice, but were probably too costly or simply not available. Hindsight . . .
Surprisingly stone walls are not as strong as brick!
One thing i thought I caught was bricks laid sideways, course on course! That is NOT a good way to do it, but maybe they were thinking of lateral strength?
It might have been the mine pumping out the water from the tunnels underneath, dried out enough to cause shrinkage to the earth underneath. Drynesss is not natural to this area.
Another fantastic video Martin and James !! loved it !
Great video. I’m from Australia and would love to visit and explore these old canals
I was down at Nob End today on a bike ride. It would be fantastic if they could restore the Manchester, Bolton and Bury but looking at earthworks like this makes you realise the costs that that will likely entail!
There is a building firm that wants to build on the old paper mill land, one of the conditions to allow permission is that they have to reinstate the collapsed canal..
Imagine back in the late 18 century how crystal clean the water was . You could drink and wash in there.
Brilliant video told the story very well as always Martin 👍🏼💯
Fascinated video as ever. Looking forward to next Sunday.
Another fantastic video Martin 👍
Another great video Martin, as it happens i live very close to nob end and the canal in Little Lever.. Almost in the village, so i know it very well.Also that beach is known as the Radcliffe beach lol
Brilliant video with excellent historical content. Keep up the good work Martin & James.
A big thank you to both of you very interesting, love your pictures of the before and after look forward to the next instalment. have walked parts but good to see how you have dug in to the history
I love your videos! I broke a canal once. We were building a block of flats and shops on Whitworth St West, near the Ritz (grab a granny) venue. Your video about the 'plug' in the canal showed my handiwork. Also I loved your Bollington vid.
Hi Martin, one of my former neighbours in little lever his grandad lost 2 barges down that breach in 36. The ones that are in tha news pictures
Thanks guys for another brilliant and informative video. It's made my day. The music is hauntingly beautiful and appropriate to the story you told. And your 'brew stops' are becoming a feature in their own right! Will there, or won't there be a spoon? Who ate all the pies (or the Scotch egg?) And where will you stop to have it. Fabulous!
Thank you, yes its always a cliff hanger with James as to how he has organised the brew 😃
Another interesting vlog, I have enjoyed learning about Manchester and all the surrounding areas. The after photos of what happened to the canal was amazing to see, thank you Martin and greetings to James. :)
What a trick with that scotch egg. Another ace vid, thanks Martin and James.
Oh what a great video again... Thank you so much for your work... I follow you for 2 years I think... And I never ever regret it...
Thank you from Germany... 🙂
Thank you very much 👍
Martin, I have a theory. Maybe others have posed similar. Going by the famous photo near the end of the video, it looks like the ground slid right off a shelf of shale or slate. Water had likely seeped into the top material of the big slope at high rates from the canal and began to loosen the soil from the slate, until the inevitable collapse!
You will need some tall Wellies if you are going to splash about in the river today Martin. 🌊
Brilliant video. 👏👏thanks to both you and James. Very interesting.
An interesting video on the collapse of the canal. Thanks for the labor in making the video. Cheers mates! ❤❤😊😊
Great video Martin. That must have been a tremendous site to see when that happened. The engineering that must have gone into that to just shore up the canal in the first place.... wow
Yeah that wall is emmense close up
Another great video, thank you Martin and James 😎
Looking at the old photos they obviously didn't realise the role trees play in stabilisation of slopes ...looks like they cleared most of the trees to make the canal ,...can't believe you had no spoon.:) ...
Another very interesting video thanks guys.
What a brilliant informative interesting video. You videos are so entertaining. They are well researched and well edited.
I remember once reading, 'The complete angler' by Issac Walton. (In the mid 1600's) It described the river Irwell as one of the best salmon fishing rivers in the north!!
Thanks Jim. Just a quick question are you subscribed to the channel. Id love you to
@@MartinZero I certainly am Martin. I've also got a few mates around longsight and Bolton subscribed too. Great channel.
Very interesting. Amazing how much debris is still there! I did bat surveys at Creams Mill a few years back.
Fascinating video always interested in our industrial past . its a wonder you never found yourself in the river with all the mud.
Been looking forward to this Martin Zero Sunday night. You always find these interesting remote places with so much history. Great black and white pictures of the place at the time of the landslip. Poor James the tea lad needs more training no spoon and only half a Scotch egg lol.
Good idea to video this at this time of the year when you can see thru the trees. Amazing that there is much left of it. Cheers from Florida 😊.