Hey Build Series, I got a question for you, and the question is: "Whatever happened to the book that Scotty Bowers was writing concerning Matt Tyrnauer. Scotty said the name of the book would be titled "The Sex Life Of Matt Tyrnauer" Was this book ever published? Scotty also said that if anything ever happened to him, that all of his money would go to the Matt Tyrnauer foundation. You know what Build Series, I feel that's why Matt stayed so close to Scotty, and who knows, Matt could have finished Scotty off and blamed it on old age. Hollywood has its way of doing thing in a nice by nasty way. Matt could have written Scotty right out of the picture. Money corrupts. Matt probably didn't want the book about him to ever be published and/or Matt wanted all of that money, which was a lot, and Matt probably told Scotty whatever he wanted to hear in order to get the money. After Matt convinced Scotty to sign everything over to him, he knocked Scotty off and blamed it on old age. What a pity. But you know what Build Series, what you do in the dark will soon come to the light.
I'm retired now, nearing 70, and read FULL SERVICE recently. I don't think I've ever learned so much about human sexuality in one book since I read the first volume of the Kinsey Report when I was 17 and a freshman in college. I read both volumes, of course, as well as Krafft-Ebing's Psychopathia Sexualis, and pretty much every book on the sex shelf. But Scotty Bowers (and his co-author or editor) make a story, a history out of it, and it just made my mind reel after reading it. For example, In his stories about Charles Laughton's coprophagia, Scotty brought to life a practice I have never encountered in real life, and I'd venture to say most others haven't either. Like many American gay boys who grow up in a place far from a major city, I had a lot of hangups about being gay and sex in general, because of the societal attitudes and taboos of the time, my family, the Catholic religion, my parents' inhibitions, and those of pretty much everyone around me. Scotty should have had those also, or at least a few, but he didn't. I've never met anyone even remotely as open about their own sexuality, and also as uninhibited and well-adjusted as Scotty. And I knew an east coast version of Scotty, sort of, who flew in a very high circle for a while, a friend of Tennessee Williams until his death in 1983. I saw Tyrnauer's documentary on Scotty just a few days before reading the book and fell in love with Scotty and his stories from that. Watching the documentary, I can see why nearly everyone, or perhaps EVERYONE, who met Scotty during his life, liked him. He's so open and loving of life (including sex), and people. He looked for the good in people. If they didn't have it in their physical beauty, he looked for it in their character. The question I would have asked at the end of this interview is: Was there anyone who met Scotty and didn't like him? Concerning the sexual practices in Hollywood during the era, the book and documentary are of immense importance. Scotty is dead now. Had he died with these secrets, before he wrote the book, the story of many of these people would be incomplete or inaccurate. And Scotty's own story is phenomenal. He had tragedies in his life, like most people, but considering the things he did in bed and the sheer volume of people he did them with, he seemed to enjoy robust health and boundless energy for most of his life. Not liking the taste of alcohol helped him, which is something which I share with him, only for me it's I don't mind the taste as much as I hate the after effects, even one glass of wine. I could never work as a bartender, because I'm sensitive to smoke. Scotty's book has already provided inspiration for the delightfully twisty and wry Netflix series, HOLLYWOOD. The portrayal of Rock Hudson in that series as a borderline moron had me laughing. I've read biographies of Hudson and knew he was famous for the number of takes it took him to get his four lines out in his first movie, and he wasn't any Lawrence Olivier in the brains department, but even so. By the last episode, I was in tears for the Hollywood that could have been during that era, but wasn't, as portrayed in the series. Unrealistic? Perhaps, but I enjoyed the fantasy completely. Scotty's story is so extraordinary, like Scotty himself, one of a kind. His book and the documentary will change history, inspire others to be more accepting, open, and loving.
Taboo’s & societal norms & even the worlds views are not important. What is important is the word of GOD & what the Bible says about these issues. That is what GOD will judge us by & eternity is an awful long time especially if a persons dies without asking Jesus into their lives. The word says these lifestyles will not inherit the kingdom of heaven.
Tim, three decades ago the former tender of a bar on Pacific Coast Highway mentioned to me that his occasional customer Elsa Lanchester, who lived w/ hubby Charles Laughton up the hill from the bar in Pacific Palisades, had told him of Charles' affinity for receptive coprophagic activity from young men, a story with which I've been regaling the unsuspecting ever since, and since I haven't read Scotty's book it's interesting to get corroboration from you just now that that bartender wasn't pulling my leg. I did see Matt's documentary last night and was enthralled and appreciative of it's enormous scope, and agree that Scotty Bowers was a great man.
The documentary saddened me, the hoarding and his poor wife. His childhood impacted him even he didn't acknowledge it. Yes he had fun in adulthood but......
It never saddened me. I find him inspiring especially knowing his brother was killed in the war and he himself survived after many battles. I could feel how emotional he got when he said, "I wanted to live". And live he did. He did acknowledge his childhood abuse but he refused to be a victim. And as for his wife, she was free and could have left him. He never chained her to a stake in his backyard. Some people are emotional cripples and prefer to be that way. There is no reason to blame Scotty for never playing the victim. This book is important and shows an alternate way to look at life other than the way you look at it.
I missed the film when it was in theaters, glad I was able to catch it on Amazon Prime last night. Telling the truth is always a good thing and I would say that Scotty knew his time to do it was coming to an end. His hoarding addiction at the end of the film and sharing the pain he suffered when his daughter died as the result of a botched back alley abortion made it even more timely.
I REALLY like this guy Matt Tyrnauer! I’m gay and grew up in Birmingham Alabama. I’m 62yo and I have read Scotty’s book 3 times. I’m also a crazy TCM fan and have been collecting the autographs of these people for years. I wish I had someone like Matt in my life when I was growing up in the Bible Belt. He’s really an interesting and inspiring guy.
This still goes on today in today's Hollywood, and News... It's just gotten worse than ..The Golden year's. Making it sound fabulous .....what a sad reality for this world 🌎 😢
It's now about How low can you go? Nothing is off limits and it's anything goes now. Hollywood is the only place in the world I have traveled to that I get a sense of overwhelming sadness, evil and sleaziness in the atmosphere there, contrary to its hyped up image of glamor and prosperity. Never expected to get those feelings when I visited there.
There was one thing in Scotty’s narrative that seemed off. In his encounters with with the Duke and Duchess of Windsor, he calls him Eddie. Though he took the throne as Edward the Eighth, his name was David. He was an incredible snob, so Scotty would have probably been told to call him “Sir”. If they were intimates it would have been “David”. No one called him Edward, let alone Eddie. A minor point perhaps, and I do mostly believe Scotty, but this likely falsehood does give one pause.
The whole Scotty Bowers thing is new to me, and I can't help but be reminded of what Robert Downey Jr.'s character says in Tropic Thunder: " In Hollywood, everybody's gay at sometime or another."
I'm 60 and Randolph Scott was always my favorite western star. Even as a kid I had heard the stories, but I didn't care. He was just great. There's the story that Gable got Cukor thrown off "Gone With the Wind" because Cukor knew Gable's secret of being a gigolo in the late 1920s for the stars early in his career.
So Kate Hepburn was lesbian--who could ever guess that an athletic baritone who went around in slacks and never lived with her husband was gay? I'm more curious about Barbara Stanwyck and Robert Taylor.
I agree. The Tracy & Hepburn relationship has always been covered up. Garson Kanin being the most famous writer. Tracy was a messed up man emotionally and a mean drunk, so it never made sense that they could have a sexual relationship together. The Taylor & Stanwyck one is really interesting because they were together for decades, but no one talks about what that was all about.
@Grace Collins Hello Grayson thank you for your reply in all respect I am a member of the LGBT community and in my vast many many many years of experience I have found it true that the only real bisexual is someone who says if you will buy me something I will be sexual
The guy was a child and molested by men. It is clear it caused massive damage and led to a life of very questionable lifestyle....like married people cheating, taking advantage of people, etc. Seems more of a warning if anything
ALSO IS THERE A VIDEO AVAILABLE OF THE FILM THEY ARE DISCUSSING????...I LIVED IN HOLLYWOOD IN THE EARLY SIXTIES WHEN ALL THE THINGS THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT WERE ALREADY GONE AND WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE FILM....
What a hero...buying and selling people. Dealing with over paid and overweening egos who had nothing more important to worry about or aspire to than getting laid.
Awesome video! It is nice to see that the pretend world is full of members that are real like everybody else’s. We have Scott to thank for it. We live in such a hypocritical society still, is great to see those illusions to come down to reality.
EXCELLENT INTERVIEW ... i say thank god for scotty. he quite unselfishly provided a safe healthy way for people's fave stars of yesteryear to relax and enjoy and maybe even love people they were attracted to so the general public could still enjoy and relish them for the extremely talented individuals they were. who knows how short the careers of some of them might have been otherwise ... depression, ostracism, etc could have easily wiped out someone like a cary grant or katherine hepburn overnight. we are very fortunate today to have such amazing film legacies to enjoy FOREVER. and historically, it is very important for people to know that there always have been and always will be super talented gay people whose work should not be judged by whom they choose to partner with. god bless scotty for sharing his story before it's too late. 10,000 thank you's from me!
jim shippee AND still going at 95! Happy & healthy, I assume. He's done better than many who've followed a life of abstinence! He should write another book...'HOW TO *REALLY* LIVE!'
Anthony Because their business never got out, to ruin their image, career, and life!!!!! Duh. Obviously, Scotty was trusted, found a niche, and was well before his time, long before the Internet and Social Media, where no one can shut up.
Fascinating documentary and interview. We take things for granted today, but it was a very different world in the golden era of Hollywood. Thank goodness Scotty Bowers is here to tell us about it.
Scotty said that his own childhood abuse (priests & family friends) was "just GREAT". I do hope that he did not allow or include children in his "tricking" activities at the Gas Station and beyond.
I was reading the book and they looked like they were 17 or 18 than it was he would match them with different people. I find him questionable by some of the people who he called his “friends “, a lot of them were known pedos and it wasn’t a secret . I think what happened to Scotty made him normalize things that just shouldn’t have . A much other man with a child or teenager isn’t normal but it’s sick .
Hormones create very strong sexual drives. When I lived in W Hollywood in early 1970's, Rampant sex on any and all levels. It's like a festering sore and needs to be brought to light. Scotty was a necessary commodity to the Stars. Quite a guy. Truthfully transparent.
I"m not entirely convinced by the picture of Bowers given by the director. Basking in the reflected glory of movie stars was surely a significant motivation for Bowers.
Scotty should have NEVER been characterized as a "pimp." Pimps get PAID for their efforts, while Bowers never accepted a cent. Today, we would call him a "matchmaker," and he would have been both highly publicized and paid... period.
March 31, 2019 Robert Redford's current movie about saving the wild Mustang horses is much more important than this movie. This interview discusses how horses were a part of daily life in 1950's California. Before the freeways ruined everything, many teens and college students rode their horses to school and across the zip codes they lived. KCBS and KPIX news channel 5 in San Francisco covered the story 'Federal Government Culling wild horses.'
Scotty Bowers is one deeply disturbed individual. Once again, only deceased people are mentioned in his book. It's basically a more recent version of "Hollywood Babylon".
At least he was discreet enough to not out them when they were alive. Hollywood stars were gay, no different than a cross section of the general public.
I JUST WISHED THAT ALL OF THE PEOPLE, THAT SCOTTY HAD WRITTEN ABOUT WERE ALIVE TO SAY NAY OR YAY TODAY!!! 😢😒😒 I COULD ALSO BELIEVE HIM BECAUSE PEOPLE LEFT HIM THEIR EXPENSIVE PROPERTY FOR SOMETHING!
Interesting to note the age at which some marriages were first started in negotiation, concluded by a marriage contract and consummated by a bloody sheet. The idea of "underage" can be so much like shifting sands.
I watched the documentary, which was inspired by the book. I was truly disappointed on this documentary. I was expecting the director would have dived deep in Scotty's most incredible stories involving the Hollywood stars, with some new, untold stories too (Scotty certainly had many) but instead of this it was a boring film, mainly telling Scotty's dramas of the time the documentary was shot. It indeed started all fairly well, with photos of the infamous gas station, etc, but soon it focused on family problems, Scotty's health condition and his problem as object accumulator.
@@anonymousgirl799 I read a long magazine piece about thirty years ago which detailed how it was based on Elisabeth Bergner and a young female protege. When Bergner was appearing on stage in London in "The Two Mrs. Carrolls," she took pity on a young waif who stood outside the theater for days on end, employing this stage door janie as a secretary. The young woman proceeded to take over her life. Bergner wrote a short story based on this for Cosmopolitan Magazine in 1946, "The Wisdom Of Eve." Joseph Mankiewicz read it and adapted it into the screenplay for "All About Eve."
I don't know if there were any real shockers here. The broad outlines of these actors' private lives largely were already known, if not the details or extent of them.
Director always jumps to homophobia as the reason people are critical. It may be for some, but probably not for others. People don’t like sensationalism over private things when it comes to dead people (who can’t defend themselves, or give their side of the story). Blanket accusations of homophobia are not accurate nor productive to the dialogue.
I thought the same. Their sex lives (whether gay or straight) were their business. I don't think it's right to dredge up old gossip that was probably started and spread by people as a way to get back at someone who either crossed them, rejected them, was a rival or whom they simply disliked. Also, the way he references Hollywood Babylon as if it's credible source of information when it's been debunked as a combination of lies and half truths.
What I don't like about this whole Scotty Bowers business is it's now being taken as fact and quoted other books as fact we have no reason to believe Scotty Bowers is telling the truth is no proof of any of it it's just gossip. Very interesting gossip but we don't know if it's true and it's being printed as fact and other publications I don't think that's right
I watched this movie last night so i just wanted to hear way more about it. There's nothing new under the sun. Im flabbergasted this dude is associated with Kenneth Anger as well. I mean really it makes so much sense but i couldn't believe it. I don't even know why I'm writing this comment, who's gonna read it, i just wanted to say this out loud. And of course the hung upside down during a thunderstorm thing too. Occult everything links with sex debauchery everything. My goodness. And he was one of Kinsey's victims too! WOW. JUST W.O.W. Repent y'all... ✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️
Loved this doc! Saddened that people can't just be themselves, as long as it's not hurting others. Unfortunately, I can hear the haters already. All I have to say is, TOO BAD. IT'S NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. MIND STAY OUT OF EVERYONE ELSES BEDROOMS. IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT GO LIVE IN A COUNTRY THAT ISN'T FREE, LIKE RUSSIA.
As a History major native to Los Angeles for several generations I can understand why there is a need to document what is not documented especially when some things normally never make it to print because people are afraid to say what they know. Of course there is always the possibility that since some of these things cannot except by human verification be authenticated saying it will still be doubted by some. Personally, it does not shock me because what is "normal" here is at times so common and when you have people coming to Los Angeles to get into a field that has its own aura of extreme behavior. Not that homosexuality is an extreme but having the need to hide it is since you have to create something to cover the story. So many people come to Los Angeles because they find they have no future where it is that they are native and of course there are those that come here for the excitement. And when they get here there is absolutely no hindrance to create a new persona. Even non-actors are actors in this society. If you are offended that Scotty has done what he has then that is absolutely ok as it represents your world view. I say that if you do not want people to learn that you had a different life than what has artificially been created and maintained then don't do it. But success in Los Angeles does has its need for that so that you can build on your future instead of your past--a past that might not necessarily have been all that wonderful or useful for them.
@@nancybogart3899Let this be perfectly clear--you do not pay my bills and I don't sleep with you. If you feel that you have the right to tell me what to do then you make too much of your self-centered importance. I did not force you to read anything and I certainly did not invite you to overstay your welcome. If you feel compelled to act badly use what you may have as mental agility to think about ramifications. Now, answer the phone; your village is calling for your return. If you feel upset by this explanation; that is understandable. If you feel disrespected; that is something you very well may need to understand about your weltenschaunng. Unless you are a masochist there is absolutely anything no that would justify a reply.
Tom Pahdea WHO CARES! Really ,,, I DONT ! It’s just my opinion dude. Get over yourself, AND I WOULDNT SLEEP WITH YOU, any WHATS , you sound like a WOMAN !
clean the swamp so destructive , I HAVE COMPLETELY LOST ALL INTEREST IN THESE MOVIES AND MOVIE "STARS" AND IT IS ONLY WORSE now I CAN PUT my money to much better use than watching these perverts and perversions. Sorry for the decent people in this industry.
Just too much information ; many of these “facts” had already manifested themselves in our imaginations and I tend to think that’s where it all should stay.All of the named movie stars gave (and continue to give) untold pleasure to millions of us.Thank you.
Jeff Harris Hey Jeff I am completely with you I am so distracted all I can think of is go to the fucking dentist and orthodontist and get some damn braces I mean you have a job probably a good job go to the damn dentist
with out jesus in your life- you have nothing, jesus and his saving grace, by belief that he is the son of god that forgives us of our sins--- will give you a purpose, morality, salvation, eternal life, life in christ--on this planet and in the life to come, and yes there will be... all the rest is perverted, garbage, despicable , putrid, amoral , unholy things ppl do.
Ken Desjarlais ! Is that a picture of Kat Williams the comedian I don’t know but if it is how can you go on and on about “on “heaven Jesus in your life when Kat Williams is a big mess
I don't get some people. DOES BEING CURIOUS ABOUT THESE VINTAGE STARS SEX LIVES THAT IMPORTANT. Scotty is broke and needs the money. Why else will he do this😔😔..
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Hey Build Series, I got a question for you, and the question is: "Whatever happened to the book that Scotty Bowers was writing concerning Matt Tyrnauer. Scotty said the name of the book would be titled "The Sex Life Of Matt Tyrnauer" Was this book ever published? Scotty also said that if anything ever happened to him, that all of his money would go to the Matt Tyrnauer foundation. You know what Build Series, I feel that's why Matt stayed so close to Scotty, and who knows, Matt could have finished Scotty off and blamed it on old age. Hollywood has its way of doing thing in a nice by nasty way. Matt could have written Scotty right out of the picture. Money corrupts. Matt probably didn't want the book about him to ever be published and/or Matt wanted all of that money, which was a lot, and Matt probably told Scotty whatever he wanted to hear in order to get the money. After Matt convinced Scotty to sign everything over to him, he knocked Scotty off and blamed it on old age. What a pity. But you know what Build Series, what you do in the dark will soon come to the light.
I'm retired now, nearing 70, and read FULL SERVICE recently. I don't think I've ever learned so much about human sexuality in one book since I read the first volume of the Kinsey Report when I was 17 and a freshman in college. I read both volumes, of course, as well as Krafft-Ebing's Psychopathia Sexualis, and pretty much every book on the sex shelf. But Scotty Bowers (and his co-author or editor) make a story, a history out of it, and it just made my mind reel after reading it. For example, In his stories about Charles Laughton's coprophagia, Scotty brought to life a practice I have never encountered in real life, and I'd venture to say most others haven't either.
Like many American gay boys who grow up in a place far from a major city, I had a lot of hangups about being gay and sex in general, because of the societal attitudes and taboos of the time, my family, the Catholic religion, my parents' inhibitions, and those of pretty much everyone around me. Scotty should have had those also, or at least a few, but he didn't. I've never met anyone even remotely as open about their own sexuality, and also as uninhibited and well-adjusted as Scotty. And I knew an east coast version of Scotty, sort of, who flew in a very high circle for a while, a friend of Tennessee Williams until his death in 1983.
I saw Tyrnauer's documentary on Scotty just a few days before reading the book and fell in love with Scotty and his stories from that. Watching the documentary, I can see why nearly everyone, or perhaps EVERYONE, who met Scotty during his life, liked him. He's so open and loving of life (including sex), and people. He looked for the good in people. If they didn't have it in their physical beauty, he looked for it in their character. The question I would have asked at the end of this interview is: Was there anyone who met Scotty and didn't like him?
Concerning the sexual practices in Hollywood during the era, the book and documentary are of immense importance. Scotty is dead now. Had he died with these secrets, before he wrote the book, the story of many of these people would be incomplete or inaccurate.
And Scotty's own story is phenomenal. He had tragedies in his life, like most people, but considering the things he did in bed and the sheer volume of people he did them with, he seemed to enjoy robust health and boundless energy for most of his life. Not liking the taste of alcohol helped him, which is something which I share with him, only for me it's I don't mind the taste as much as I hate the after effects, even one glass of wine. I could never work as a bartender, because I'm sensitive to smoke.
Scotty's book has already provided inspiration for the delightfully twisty and wry Netflix series, HOLLYWOOD. The portrayal of Rock Hudson in that series as a borderline moron had me laughing. I've read biographies of Hudson and knew he was famous for the number of takes it took him to get his four lines out in his first movie, and he wasn't any Lawrence Olivier in the brains department, but even so. By the last episode, I was in tears for the Hollywood that could have been during that era, but wasn't, as portrayed in the series. Unrealistic? Perhaps, but I enjoyed the fantasy completely.
Scotty's story is so extraordinary, like Scotty himself, one of a kind. His book and the documentary will change history, inspire others to be more accepting, open, and loving.
Taboo’s & societal norms & even the worlds views are not important. What is important is the word of GOD & what the Bible says about these issues. That is what GOD will judge us by & eternity is an awful long time especially if a persons dies without asking Jesus into their lives. The word says these lifestyles will not inherit the kingdom of heaven.
Tim, three decades ago the former tender of a bar on Pacific Coast Highway mentioned to me that his occasional customer Elsa Lanchester, who lived w/ hubby Charles Laughton up the hill from the bar in Pacific Palisades, had told him of Charles' affinity for receptive coprophagic activity from young men, a story with which I've been regaling the unsuspecting ever since, and since I haven't read Scotty's book it's interesting to get corroboration from you just now that that bartender wasn't pulling my leg. I did see Matt's documentary last night and was enthralled and appreciative of it's enormous scope, and agree that Scotty Bowers was a great man.
Matt is so good as an interview subject and was interviewed by a great interviewer. Extremely interesting video.
I’m glad he lived long enough to tell his story.
The documentary saddened me, the hoarding and his poor wife. His childhood impacted him even he didn't acknowledge it. Yes he had fun in adulthood but......
It never saddened me. I find him inspiring especially knowing his brother was killed in the war and he himself survived after many battles.
I could feel how emotional he got when he said, "I wanted to live". And live he did.
He did acknowledge his childhood abuse but he refused to be a victim. And as for his wife, she was free and could have left him. He never chained her to a stake in his backyard. Some people are emotional cripples and prefer to be that way.
There is no reason to blame Scotty for never playing the victim. This book is important and shows an alternate way to look at life other than the way you look at it.
it was NEVER abuse ! he stateed many times , he only did what he wanted to do.. aka NO abuse.. leave the lying to trump sheep
I agree
Here after started watching "Hollywood" on Netflix
I missed the film when it was in theaters, glad I was able to catch it on Amazon Prime last night. Telling the truth is always a good thing and I would say that Scotty knew his time to do it was coming to an end. His hoarding addiction at the end of the film and sharing the pain he suffered when his daughter died as the result of a botched back alley abortion made it even more timely.
I REALLY like this guy Matt Tyrnauer! I’m gay and grew up in Birmingham Alabama. I’m 62yo and I have read Scotty’s book 3 times. I’m also a crazy TCM fan and have been collecting the autographs of these people for years. I wish I had someone like Matt in my life when I was growing up in the Bible Belt. He’s really an interesting and inspiring guy.
This still goes on today in today's Hollywood, and News... It's just gotten worse than ..The Golden year's. Making it sound fabulous .....what a sad reality for this world 🌎 😢
It's now about How low can you go? Nothing is off limits and it's anything goes now.
Hollywood is the only place in the world I have traveled to that I get a sense of overwhelming sadness, evil and sleaziness in the atmosphere there, contrary to its hyped up image of glamor and prosperity. Never expected to get those feelings when I visited there.
There was one thing in Scotty’s narrative that seemed off. In his encounters with with the Duke and Duchess of Windsor, he calls him Eddie. Though he took the throne as Edward the Eighth, his name was David. He was an incredible snob, so Scotty would have probably been told to call him “Sir”. If they were intimates it would have been “David”. No one called him Edward, let alone Eddie. A minor point perhaps, and I do mostly believe Scotty, but this likely falsehood does give one pause.
Great interview. Incredible film. I learned stuff I needed to understand better through the interview.
The Build studio looked so familiar until I realized it was once The Tower Records....
I can't wait to download the Scotty Bowers documentary from Amazon when I get paid.
Thank you, for making this documentary, I bought the DVD.
The whole Scotty Bowers thing is new to me, and I can't help but be reminded of what Robert Downey Jr.'s character says in Tropic Thunder: " In Hollywood, everybody's gay at sometime or another."
I'm 60 and Randolph Scott was always my favorite western star. Even as a kid I had heard the stories, but I didn't care. He was just great.
There's the story that Gable got Cukor thrown off "Gone With the Wind" because Cukor knew Gable's secret of being a gigolo in the late 1920s for the stars early in his career.
Dave La Violette, Cable wasn’t gay! Damn!
@@terry4137 look up the definition of gigolo before making that assessment
12:50 You are right! LAPD under Chief Daryl Gates was still doing that in 1980's into 1990's.
Gates was Chief William Parker's driver and Ed Davis was chief before Gates, both very anti gay, along with Gates.
So Kate Hepburn was lesbian--who could ever guess that an athletic baritone who went around in slacks and never lived with her husband was gay? I'm more curious about Barbara Stanwyck and Robert Taylor.
I agree. The Tracy & Hepburn relationship has always been covered up. Garson Kanin being the most famous writer. Tracy was a messed up man emotionally and a mean drunk, so it never made sense that they could have a sexual relationship together. The Taylor & Stanwyck one is really interesting because they were together for decades, but no one talks about what that was all about.
Not all of them were gay! The LGABCD community needs more validation! Smh
@Grace Collins Please bisexual the only real bisexuals I've known are people who would be sexual if you buy them something
@Grace Collins Hello Grayson thank you for your reply in all respect I am a member of the LGBT community and in my vast many many many years of experience I have found it true that the only real bisexual is someone who says if you will buy me something I will be sexual
@@victorcredenza6932 now you're just being an asshole
this film is already on my christmas DVD gift list now, hehhehe.......
The guy was a child and molested by men. It is clear it caused massive damage and led to a life of very questionable lifestyle....like married people cheating, taking advantage of people, etc. Seems more of a warning if anything
ALSO IS THERE A VIDEO AVAILABLE OF THE FILM THEY ARE DISCUSSING????...I LIVED IN HOLLYWOOD IN THE EARLY SIXTIES WHEN ALL THE THINGS THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT WERE ALREADY GONE AND WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE FILM....
So fascinating. I would love to see the items and pictures that Scotty left behind.
What a hero...buying and selling people. Dealing with over paid and overweening egos who had nothing more important to worry about or aspire to than getting laid.
Stephanie Stanley That’s Hollywood sister ... don’t like it ! Don’t watch it
@@InFltSvc typical gay reply you sound like my gay nephew
@El Raton Literally no proof just people who claimed this happened.
very entertaining interview... non judgmental & informative about a truly unique man who lived in interesting albeit often hypocritical times )))
Fantastic movie. Just watched it last night. Got the book too.
What’s the name of the movie
This may all be about Scotty and old Hollywood but I think Matt Tyrnauer is HOT. HIs movies are great and he's become a personal hero of mine.
very even keeled, straight forward, matter of fact, non-sensational, tell it like it is. well done by both
Awesome video! It is nice to see that the pretend world is full of members that are real like everybody else’s. We have Scott to thank for it. We live in such a hypocritical society still, is great to see those illusions to come down to reality.
EXCELLENT INTERVIEW ... i say thank god for scotty. he quite unselfishly provided a safe healthy way for people's fave stars of yesteryear to relax and enjoy and maybe even love people they were attracted to so the general public could still enjoy and relish them for the extremely talented individuals they were. who knows how short the careers of some of them might have been otherwise ... depression, ostracism, etc could have easily wiped out someone like a cary grant or katherine hepburn overnight. we are very fortunate today to have such amazing film legacies to enjoy FOREVER. and historically, it is very important for people to know that there always have been and always will be super talented gay people whose work should not be judged by whom they choose to partner with. god bless scotty for sharing his story before it's too late. 10,000 thank you's from me!
he is entertaining that was his business but still gossip and hearsay
jim shippee AND still going at 95! Happy & healthy, I assume. He's done better than many who've followed a life of abstinence! He should write another book...'HOW TO *REALLY* LIVE!'
What a hero buying and selling people
Interesting how you idolize a man that abandoned his wife for 30 years and didn’t even raise his daughter. Guess that doesn’t sell as well
scotty never bought anyone, clearly you are CLUELESS & did not read anything about the book or see the film. @@stephaniestanley8041
Absolutely AMAZING interview and fascinating stories. And cannot wait for the Studio54 documentary.
Erik Smith WHAATT???
What puzzles me about this Scotty Bowers is, how did they know that he could be trusted.
Anthony he proved he could be trusted.
I lived and worked in Hollywood, and was flavor of a few years. It gets around that you're trustable. And good.
Clearly he couldn’t be
Anthony
Because their business never got out, to ruin their image, career, and life!!!!! Duh. Obviously, Scotty was trusted, found a niche, and was well before his time, long before the Internet and Social Media, where no one can shut up.
I could believe him because people left him their property; which is very expensive! They aware thanking him for something!! 😒
Fascinating documentary and interview. We take things for granted today, but it was a very different world in the golden era of Hollywood. Thank goodness Scotty Bowers is here to tell us about it.
High definition tv is doing jack for these two. Damn I miss Tower record's in that building. Free cds. 💿
THE INTERVIEWER IS ACTING LIKE A GIDDY SCHOOL BOY ....?????
She's got a DIRTY ass !!!!
Max Linder I totally agree Max he’s got ugly teeth oh yeah and uglier teeth than I’ve ever seen and completely ignorant and completely immature
Yeah ! Thought it would be just me, who thought that !
I would be curious to know which stars from classic Hollywood engaged secret interracial relationships with black men and women.
Scotty said that his own childhood abuse (priests & family friends) was "just GREAT". I do hope that he did not allow or include children in his "tricking" activities at the Gas Station and beyond.
I was reading the book and they looked like they were 17 or 18 than it was he would match them with different people. I find him questionable by some of the people who he called his “friends “, a lot of them were known pedos and it wasn’t a secret . I think what happened to Scotty made him normalize things that just shouldn’t have . A much other man with a child or teenager isn’t normal but it’s sick .
Hormones create very strong sexual drives. When I lived in W Hollywood in early 1970's, Rampant sex on any and all levels. It's like a festering sore and needs to be brought to light. Scotty was a necessary commodity to the Stars. Quite a guy. Truthfully transparent.
No people can have self control. Theirs no good reason to be a 304. Also in Hollywood alot of it is grape. Just look at wienstien
I"m not entirely convinced by the picture of Bowers given by the director. Basking in the reflected glory of movie stars was surely a significant motivation for Bowers.
Scotty was so blue collar how did he have the energy for his doings? Must have great genes
Scotty should have NEVER been characterized as a "pimp." Pimps get PAID for their efforts, while Bowers never accepted a cent. Today, we would call him a "matchmaker," and he would have been both highly publicized and paid... period.
I bet the people who picked the actresses that met with Winstien would consider themselves as match makers too
The book is probably far better than the movie
March 31, 2019 Robert Redford's current movie about saving the wild Mustang horses is much more important than this movie. This interview discusses how horses were a part of daily life in 1950's California. Before the freeways ruined everything, many teens and college students rode their horses to school and across the zip codes they lived. KCBS and KPIX news channel 5 in San Francisco covered the story 'Federal Government Culling wild horses.'
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salacious sells you need some gay horses
100% agree with you
Scotty Bowers is one deeply disturbed individual. Once again, only deceased people are mentioned in his book. It's basically a more recent version of "Hollywood Babylon".
At least he was discreet enough to not out them when they were alive. Hollywood stars were gay, no different than a cross section of the general public.
Or he made up a bunch of stuff. People do like the limelight
I JUST WISHED THAT ALL OF THE PEOPLE, THAT SCOTTY HAD WRITTEN ABOUT WERE ALIVE TO SAY NAY OR YAY TODAY!!! 😢😒😒
I COULD ALSO BELIEVE HIM BECAUSE PEOPLE LEFT HIM THEIR EXPENSIVE PROPERTY FOR SOMETHING!
you would think
Kinsey messed with kids.
what evidence do you have?
Consenting adults is dandy. Preying on underage people, and kids? Yuk. Nothing at all sexy about that.
Interesting to note the age at which some marriages were first started in negotiation, concluded by a marriage contract and consummated by a bloody sheet. The idea of "underage" can be so much like shifting sands.
It depends on your point of view Cynthia. Attitudes change with time, but that doesn't mean they are correct now.
Hollywood has been known as the child's sex trafficking capital in the US for many years.
Good to see Boris Becker keeping busy...
I watched the documentary, which was inspired by the book. I was truly disappointed on this documentary. I was expecting the director would have dived deep in Scotty's most incredible stories involving the Hollywood stars, with some new, untold stories too (Scotty certainly had many) but instead of this it was a boring film, mainly telling Scotty's dramas of the time the documentary was shot. It indeed started all fairly well, with photos of the infamous gas station, etc, but soon it focused on family problems, Scotty's health condition and his problem as object accumulator.
A "nuance portrait"....definitely a term I love.
Those lil Gerber teeth are killing me.
Who cares,the only thing these people owed their public was a good performance.
yes same things going on with school teachers, lawyers, doctors, etc
Shampoo was about the life of Jon Peters in the 1970's.
Daniel Ring
"All About Eve" was based on Tallulah Bankhead, and her young female lover.
Daniel Ring
"All About Eve" was based on Tallulah Bankhead, and her young female lover.
@@anonymousgirl799 I read a long magazine piece about thirty years ago which detailed how it was based on Elisabeth Bergner and a young female protege. When Bergner was appearing on stage in London in "The Two Mrs. Carrolls," she took pity on a young waif who stood outside the theater for days on end, employing this stage door janie as a secretary. The young woman proceeded to take over her life. Bergner wrote a short story based on this for Cosmopolitan Magazine in 1946, "The Wisdom Of Eve." Joseph Mankiewicz read it and adapted it into the screenplay for "All About Eve."
SO WHAT IS THE TITLE OF THE FILM THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT?????????
Scotty and the Secret History of Hollywood
Read the book, crazy wild read. To be in the acting industry, it seems to attract people of a variety of sexual persuasions.
I don't know if there were any real shockers here. The broad outlines of these actors' private lives largely were already known, if not the details or extent of them.
Director always jumps to homophobia as the reason people are critical. It may be for some, but probably not for others. People don’t like sensationalism over private things when it comes to dead people (who can’t defend themselves, or give their side of the story). Blanket accusations of homophobia are not accurate nor productive to the dialogue.
I thought the same. Their sex lives (whether gay or straight) were their business. I don't think it's right to dredge up old gossip that was probably started and spread by people as a way to get back at someone who either crossed them, rejected them, was a rival or whom they simply disliked.
Also, the way he references Hollywood Babylon as if it's credible source of information when it's been debunked as a combination of lies and half truths.
What I don't like about this whole Scotty Bowers business is it's now being taken as fact and quoted other books as fact we have no reason to believe Scotty Bowers is telling the truth is no proof of any of it it's just gossip. Very interesting gossip but we don't know if it's true and it's being printed as fact and other publications I don't think that's right
Lots of people have corroborated it and testified to his credibility and honesty.
When the Gods are flesh and bone.......and in the end just dust!
Fabulous
Abomination of desolation is not a myth.
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I watched this movie last night so i just wanted to hear way more about it. There's nothing new under the sun. Im flabbergasted this dude is associated with Kenneth Anger as well. I mean really it makes so much sense but i couldn't believe it. I don't even know why I'm writing this comment, who's gonna read it, i just wanted to say this out loud. And of course the hung upside down during a thunderstorm thing too. Occult everything links with sex debauchery everything. My goodness. And he was one of Kinsey's victims too! WOW. JUST W.O.W. Repent y'all... ✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️
You lost me with YAHOO
frizbeee FOR DAMN SURE!!!
In Love With The Interviewer...Cute
There is no doubt that. He was abused as a child. There is no other interpretation, he was a child and these were grown men.
They are quoting from "barry Lyndon" amazing...
This is sick!
Loved this doc! Saddened that people can't just be themselves, as long as it's not hurting others. Unfortunately, I can hear the haters already. All I have to say is, TOO BAD. IT'S NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. MIND STAY OUT OF EVERYONE ELSES BEDROOMS. IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT GO LIVE IN A COUNTRY THAT ISN'T FREE, LIKE RUSSIA.
Paying for sex hurts others.
As a History major native to Los Angeles for several generations I can understand why there is a need to document what is not documented especially when some things normally never make it to print because people are afraid to say what they know. Of course there is always the possibility that since some of these things cannot except by human verification be authenticated saying it will still be doubted by some. Personally, it does not shock me because what is "normal" here is at times so common and when you have people coming to Los Angeles to get into a field that has its own aura of extreme behavior. Not that homosexuality is an extreme but having the need to hide it is since you have to create something to cover the story. So many people come to Los Angeles because they find they have no future where it is that they are native and of course there are those that come here for the excitement. And when they get here there is absolutely no hindrance to create a new persona. Even non-actors are actors in this society. If you are offended that Scotty has done what he has then that is absolutely ok as it represents your world view. I say that if you do not want people to learn that you had a different life than what has artificially been created and maintained then don't do it. But success in Los Angeles does has its need for that so that you can build on your future instead of your past--a past that might not necessarily have been all that wonderful or useful for them.
Tom Pahdea KEEP IT SHORT! You’re not running for a newspaper here pal is this your thesis for your big bad history major I’m not impressed
@@nancybogart3899Let this be perfectly clear--you do not pay my bills and I don't sleep with you. If you feel that you have the right to tell me what to do then you make too much of your self-centered importance. I did not force you to read anything and I certainly did not invite you to overstay your welcome. If you feel compelled to act badly use what you may have as mental agility to think about ramifications. Now, answer the phone; your village is calling for your return. If you feel upset by this explanation; that is understandable. If you feel disrespected; that is something you very well may need to understand about your weltenschaunng. Unless you are a masochist there is absolutely anything no that would justify a reply.
Tom Pahdea Oh baby ... boy!!!
Tom Pahdea WHO CARES! Really ,,, I DONT ! It’s just my opinion dude. Get over yourself, AND I WOULDNT SLEEP WITH YOU, any WHATS , you sound like a WOMAN !
Tom Pahdea lemme guess- YOURE A BITTER , BORING TEACHER! And VERY -- SINGLE!
Funny how all this comes out when all the people talked about are all dead and a book and doc are coming out....money....money... money...
clean the swamp so destructive , I HAVE COMPLETELY LOST ALL INTEREST IN THESE MOVIES AND MOVIE "STARS" AND IT IS ONLY WORSE now I CAN PUT my money to much better use than watching these perverts and perversions. Sorry for the decent people in this industry.
Lost all interest? Why would you be watching this?
Sound of freedom is the talk of tinsel town now 😂😂😂😂.
Just too much information ; many of these “facts” had already manifested themselves in our imaginations and I tend to think that’s
where it all should stay.All of the named movie stars gave (and continue to give) untold pleasure to millions of us.Thank you.
Did I hear this guy correctly?: he doesn't think an adult having sexual relations/interactions with a child is abuse???
ANYBODY can say ANYTHING about ANYTHING
Its the secrets and the lies that have held us back as human beings. Secrets r the devil s advocate.
Looking nice...
Hollywood is a city of sins
Straight washing? Hetro-normative? What a hetro-phobe.
. Trists ?
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scotty never bought anyone, clearly you are CLUELESS & did not read anything about the book or see the film. @stepha...
The Morals Clause
I read the book. Meh.
Get that freaking tooth fixed!!!
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This makes it sound like every star in Hollywood was gay, what nonsense.Some where and some not.
Do you need a book about the heterosexual actors?
The BLT community
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Hollywood stars ⭐️ mostly liars ok 👍🏽
Jodie Foster and Katharine Hepburn are so alike now there sexuality is also same
The interviewer's bad teeth are too distracting. I can't watch.
Jeff Harris Hey Jeff I am completely with you I am so distracted all I can think of is go to the fucking dentist and orthodontist and get some damn braces I mean you have a job probably a good job go to the damn dentist
with out jesus in your life- you have nothing,
jesus and his saving grace, by belief that he is the son of god that forgives us of our sins--- will give you a purpose, morality, salvation, eternal life, life in christ--on this planet and in the life to come, and yes there will be...
all the rest is perverted, garbage, despicable , putrid, amoral , unholy things ppl do.
Ken Desjarlais ! Is that a picture of Kat Williams the comedian I don’t know but if it is how can you go on and on about “on “heaven Jesus in your life when Kat Williams is a big mess
And yet, here you are...why aren't you watching more morally fit content, Dear?
Terry . Did I write comment to you? If so I don’t remember but I do give you kudos for being so kind about your comment honestly I mean that thank you
Terry ps- what is that pic you have for your “ ID???
Are you male/ female?
crap
I'm so grossed out now...I had respect for these stars...now to know their perverts.
If people knew your past SAUNDERS, I'm sure that you would gross them out and they would think that you are a pervert also.
@kiranjit rana ru sure...their some crazy stuff on them as well
@kiranjit rana so did Cary Grant...
I don't get some people. DOES BEING CURIOUS ABOUT THESE VINTAGE STARS SEX LIVES THAT IMPORTANT. Scotty is broke and needs the money. Why else will he do this😔😔..
Matt has the worst beard I’ve ever seen.
not all of is true
And how do you know that???????????
research and reading other sources
and how do you know that too? You see where this is going?
based on gossip and hearsay
Talks mucho, sais nothing at sll. blablabla
What a completely humourless man
Gross 🤢🙄
Well now we know Cary grant was gay or at least bi despite what his daughter says.
Snitch!