Damn ! One of the very few authorities on FS2020 who knows how to knowledge transfer without missing a beat ! THANK YOU !! I keep watching your videos and always pick up something new !! Brilliant !!
Thank you for sharing. There's a detail that can come anoying with the RNAV approach in this plane. That is, there is no glide indicator in the PFD, like in the Longitude for example. You have to guess your vertical position with the help of the FMC. But... she can land using RNAV, which makes her a very good aircraft indeed.
There is only the "GS" annunciation on the PFD that tells you that Glide Path is captured if you go to 33:15 in the video you'll see the "GS" annunciation at the top of the PFD turning to Green from White when captured but as you said there is no magenta diamond like we see in G3000 next to the altitude tape showing the Glide Path and your relevant vertical position.
Pitch up higher immediately after takeoff to keep airspeed down. 10 degrees is not enough. Speed should not be increasing during initial climb untill the thrust reduction and acceleration altitude. Usually around 1500 feet. Vertical speed will be high but that's to be expected in a business jet. Pitch up to maintain initial climb speed. 20 degrees or whatever it takes. Don't use rudder to compensate for the crosswind. Approach crabbed and then de-crab just before touchdown. Don't push the nose down if high, reduce thrust slightly then increase thrust when on the glideslope. Pitch and power for big deviations.
@@TheSimPilot I should add, thrust is pilot discretion in the CJ4. When pilots are just sticking to toga and 10 degrees, thrust lever comes back to the climb detent very soon after takeoff. I belive some pilots use FLC instead and dial in an initial climb speed.
@@TheSimPilot Yep, some real world CJ4 pilots do the same, preset before takeoff instead of TOGA. Initial climb speed set is much lower than that though. Thrust is pilot discretion too, so I wouldn't be surprised if when in TOGA they reduce thrust somewhat below max immediately after takeoff. Real world video's seem to bear that out, in that they don't seem to have an issue with maintaining a low initial climb speed. But certainly I've noticed they drop to the climb detent very quickly. I'm surprised the FMC doesn't have a thrust de-rate function.
Hello @The Sim Pilot, just went to saw your video; the two episod with CJ4 are well explained and coming back on some manip on the FMC aren't useless. Well now I'm ready to test my first turbine powered aircraft hopefully due to your good explanations. Thank you very much. Friendly. Gerard.
Many thanks for this! I am not type certified for the CJ4, so I'm learning as I go on the sim. Please stick to the Working Title mod; they know what they're doing. It's frustrating at this point, but Osobo will eventually straighten it out. I sympathize with them, as they can't possibly have enough personnel on tap who are type certified in all of these aircraft. Your video has confirmed for me that I'm on the right track with the CJ4. Your expertise suggests that you would be a great instructor for just simply hand-flying these planes. I'd like to see you hand-fly the C172, CJ4 and Grand Caravan through VOR navigation, ILS landings and general positional awareness. I miss the act of flying - instead of just playing a video game with the AP. Sorry, all you youngsters.
I agree, I am also thinking about done hand flying lessons and thinking about C152 where all we have is steam gauges not electronic systems. Good old school radio navigation. Thanks for the great comment. Cheers!
Great video. Been flying Cessna prop planes most of the time but just delved in to learning the CJ4 and IFR, was a bit of a mind blow to start with but getting the hang of it now and really starting to enjoy it. Can I ask what the mod is that you're talking about? I feel like I'm missing out lol.
@@TheSimPilot It was late last night when I installed it. I got a quick flight in and messed up one of my waypoints so had to approach manually but yea wow what a difference, very impressed. It got me from the word go just with the improved sound of the plane! Glad I stumbled across your video.
CJ4 AP is broken (no MOD).. I use RNAV. I get close to Approach vector, then NAV Dissengages...... I have to then take control :/ Or go direct to a way point, before the nav can pick up again.
I use simbrief for flight planning and paid Navigraph subscription for charts. But Skyvector for us based flights and Chartfox through VATSIM are also good free chart services. Sim Toolkit Pro is a small app that also have charts through Chartfox.
Hey there. Good video. Thank you. I have some issues with the idle power. If i set the power with my throttle to idle, the engines will be flamed out. Do someone have the same problem?
Interesting fact, it never happened to me and I always pull the throttle to idle during descent. Could it be the throttle axis going into negative values when pulled to idle if you're using a throttle quadrant?
@@TheSimPilot I think now i know the issue: I have an logitech X56 hotas with two thrust levers. And thats the fact: they are not thrust levers both. One is thrust lever and the other is the mixture lever. I guess, there is no mixture lever in the cj4 in real live but it must be simulatet at MSFS. And if both levers in idle position, it means the mixture lever is on poor position and the engines run out of fuel.
@@hennez81 CJ4 does not have a mixture setting but if the second one is assigned as mixture it might be acting as a fuel cutoff valve that might cause the engines to flame out. I recommend you to check the controller bindings and remove anything other than throttle axis for the two axes that might be your problem as you said.
Damn ! One of the very few authorities on FS2020 who knows how to knowledge transfer without missing a beat ! THANK YOU !! I keep watching your videos and always pick up something new !! Brilliant !!
My pleasure thanks for your kind words!
Thank you for sharing.
There's a detail that can come anoying with the RNAV approach in this plane. That is, there is no glide indicator in the PFD, like in the Longitude for example. You have to guess your vertical position with the help of the FMC.
But... she can land using RNAV, which makes her a very good aircraft indeed.
There is only the "GS" annunciation on the PFD that tells you that Glide Path is captured if you go to 33:15 in the video you'll see the "GS" annunciation at the top of the PFD turning to Green from White when captured but as you said there is no magenta diamond like we see in G3000 next to the altitude tape showing the Glide Path and your relevant vertical position.
Pitch up higher immediately after takeoff to keep airspeed down. 10 degrees is not enough. Speed should not be increasing during initial climb untill the thrust reduction and acceleration altitude. Usually around 1500 feet.
Vertical speed will be high but that's to be expected in a business jet. Pitch up to maintain initial climb speed. 20 degrees or whatever it takes.
Don't use rudder to compensate for the crosswind. Approach crabbed and then de-crab just before touchdown.
Don't push the nose down if high, reduce thrust slightly then increase thrust when on the glideslope. Pitch and power for big deviations.
Thanks for the tip, I'll keep this in mind for future videos.
@@TheSimPilot
I should add, thrust is pilot discretion in the CJ4. When pilots are just sticking to toga and 10 degrees, thrust lever comes back to the climb detent very soon after takeoff. I belive some pilots use FLC instead and dial in an initial climb speed.
@@martinw245 FLC is what I usually use and set it to 250 below FL100 and 280 above FL100 until I reach cruise.
@@TheSimPilot
Yep, some real world CJ4 pilots do the same, preset before takeoff instead of TOGA. Initial climb speed set is much lower than that though.
Thrust is pilot discretion too, so I wouldn't be surprised if when in TOGA they reduce thrust somewhat below max immediately after takeoff. Real world video's seem to bear that out, in that they don't seem to have an issue with maintaining a low initial climb speed. But certainly I've noticed they drop to the climb detent very quickly.
I'm surprised the FMC doesn't have a thrust de-rate function.
Well done mate ! I'll have a crack at programming the FMC and do a similar route like yours :)
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Hello @The Sim Pilot, just went to saw your video; the two episod with CJ4 are well explained and coming back on some manip on the FMC aren't useless. Well now I'm ready to test my first turbine powered aircraft hopefully due to your good explanations. Thank you very much. Friendly. Gerard.
Cool, thanks!
Very helpful video, thank you!
You're very welcome!
Many thanks for this! I am not type certified for the CJ4, so I'm learning as I go on the sim. Please stick to the Working Title mod; they know what they're doing. It's frustrating at this point, but Osobo will eventually straighten it out. I sympathize with them, as they can't possibly have enough personnel on tap who are type certified in all of these aircraft. Your video has confirmed for me that I'm on the right track with the CJ4. Your expertise suggests that you would be a great instructor for just simply hand-flying these planes. I'd like to see you hand-fly the C172, CJ4 and Grand Caravan through VOR navigation, ILS landings and general positional awareness. I miss the act of flying - instead of just playing a video game with the AP. Sorry, all you youngsters.
I agree, I am also thinking about done hand flying lessons and thinking about C152 where all we have is steam gauges not electronic systems. Good old school radio navigation. Thanks for the great comment. Cheers!
Good stuff, clear and concise.
Thank you!
Thank you! Always helpfull!!!
You're always welcome, thanks for all your comments
Great video. Been flying Cessna prop planes most of the time but just delved in to learning the CJ4 and IFR, was a bit of a mind blow to start with but getting the hang of it now and really starting to enjoy it. Can I ask what the mod is that you're talking about? I feel like I'm missing out lol.
Ahh, nevermind just saw someone else mentioned Working Title in the comments :)
You got it, it's one of the best mods for FS2020
@@TheSimPilot It was late last night when I installed it. I got a quick flight in and messed up one of my waypoints so had to approach manually but yea wow what a difference, very impressed. It got me from the word go just with the improved sound of the plane! Glad I stumbled across your video.
CJ4 AP is broken (no MOD).. I use RNAV. I get close to Approach vector, then NAV Dissengages...... I have to then take control :/ Or go direct to a way point, before the nav can pick up again.
I don't use the CJ4 without the mod, sorry it's not good enough to fly without the mod.
Once glide slope catches you still control throttle and plan controls pitch and altitude, right?
Throttle is always pilots discretion in CJ4, so the answer is yes.
What is the program you’re using for the flight plan and taxi chart? Thanks
I use simbrief for flight planning and paid Navigraph subscription for charts. But Skyvector for us based flights and Chartfox through VATSIM are also good free chart services. Sim Toolkit Pro is a small app that also have charts through Chartfox.
Hey there. Good video. Thank you. I have some issues with the idle power. If i set the power with my throttle to idle, the engines will be flamed out. Do someone have the same problem?
Interesting fact, it never happened to me and I always pull the throttle to idle during descent. Could it be the throttle axis going into negative values when pulled to idle if you're using a throttle quadrant?
@@TheSimPilot I think now i know the issue: I have an logitech X56 hotas with two thrust levers. And thats the fact: they are not thrust levers both. One is thrust lever and the other is the mixture lever. I guess, there is no mixture lever in the cj4 in real live but it must be simulatet at MSFS. And if both levers in idle position, it means the mixture lever is on poor position and the engines run out of fuel.
@@hennez81 CJ4 does not have a mixture setting but if the second one is assigned as mixture it might be acting as a fuel cutoff valve that might cause the engines to flame out. I recommend you to check the controller bindings and remove anything other than throttle axis for the two axes that might be your problem as you said.
You did it the hard way this is a computer sim do it the easy way unless you are or become a real pilot.
Maybe true and yes this is a desktop simulator. But this is the way I like to use it
Thanks for the video. very helpful!
You're welcome!