Mary and Matthew's Fertility Problem | Downton Abbey
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2019
- Matthew and Mary are having troubles conceiving. Despite reassurances from the doctor, Matthew is worried because he thinks that the spinal cord bruising that paralysed him has affected his fertility.
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I’m never going to stop being mad that they killed Matthew. Ever.
well they did not killed him off, he wanted out so they had to do it this way after all they've been through
He chose to leave.
Well the actor wanted to leave.. So there was really no other option. Matthew would never leave Mary and their son willingly... So him dying was the only anwser.
Same like really.
WHYYYYYYYYY
He killed himself off. He wanted out.
I’m glad that the first thing that mathew didn’t do when he noticed that he and Mary weren’t having children as quickly as they wanted , was blaming Mary
and I'm glad he was wasn't looking for "love" in other women when she wasn't sleeping with him for a few WEEKS. lol
So true. So many times the women were blamed. Like when King’s were not getting the baby boys they wanted, it was like geez woman this is your fault.... when in reality the gender is always determined by the sperm. Not that they knew that back then but still.....
Back to your point, I completely agree. It made me love him more ❤️
Well, remember that his injury had made him impotent for some time. He thought it might have been a result of that, even though the two things were not related.
@@flyboy152 erm, not quite.
If you remember, Dr. Clark’s on *thought* he was impotent, but wasn’t completely positive.
Infertility is actually often a male problem. Sperm count, erectile dysfunction... When a woman is regular she is just fertile. If you can't get pregnant you may be timing wrong though. A woman is only fertile for 24 hours in 28 days.
They complemented each other so well. Matthew brought out the best in Mary, and I think she brought out the best in him. You could tell they truly loved each other
I am crushed that they have killed Mathew . He was gorgeous ❤️
They were the best couple on this show. But 1.5 years together is really short especially considering their “will they won’t they relationship “ was 8 years.
Love them and miss them. I wish dan and Michelle would be fast in a movie or limited series together. Their chemistry is great!
@@helenhern893 moo
AGREED!! One of the best love stories ever written for television in a long time. It's great in terms of conflict and how it resolves.
I wish Matthew was still in the series.hate that he was written out of the series😢😭
“Now we can start making babies.” 😂 gets me every time
Matthew is such a dork. And I get a feeling that's how Mary sees him.
@@MsDoctorWhoFan1 But oh, WHAT a great dork!! He was so perfect in this role -- physically and emotionally.
She was such a softer person when he was around x
4:00 I love how his eyebrows raised, like they've never kissed before. Such a beautifully written romance, love how they fall in love with each other every day. Henry was good for Mary but nowhere near as perfect as Matthew.
Matthew was the best. Henry was a good man, but there was only one Matthew. Not just incredibly gorgeous and so loveable, he is such a great actor.
I know
I agree 💯. Matthew and Mary Crawley were perfect together. The Perfect ❤️❤️❤️
My, my, Matthew gets such a twinkle in those pretty eyes. That more than anything persuaded me these two characters were a great romance.
Well, that twinkle is what makes Dan Stevens such a terrific actor. He only loved her in this particular role -- and he was unmistakably believable.
Mary really let her guards down with Matthew...you can feel how innocent, soft and happy she sounds after she married this man ..
His eyes, his voice, his face. Damn i love Dan. And Mathew as a character. 😍❤
What upsets me the most is that not only that he died but that he didn't get any chance to be a daddy to that baby
That was so sad. Someone else on another video commented something I failed to realize. Both his and Sybil's babies have birthdays on the days their father and mother died. That is truly tragic!
Yes, he did get to be a daddy.
He rushed home from Scotland, and he held his son.
That’s being a daddy as much as helping him learn to walk.
@@robertandhollyscorpiofan2697 What a lovely comment! I always say 'at least Matthew got to see his child before he leaves'
Ummmmmmmmmm. It's .......... fiction. Please seek psychiatric help.
Ummmmmmmmmmm ......... It's fiction. Please seek psychiatric help.
“But believe in me.” Well let’s say we all believed in Matthew, in a brighter future for them and then he just died. I’m not gonna ever forgive that.
Since the actor wanted to leave what else can they do? Its Dan Stevens decison
"We've been married a few months and still no results." I've been married nearly 2 years and I don't even want results. 😂
Hahaha
clearly the purposes of sex was not as theses days.
But i also doubt that you have to produce an heir, so that makes the situation much less compilacted!
Not married and ditto on the result thing. No way Jose. 🤦
@@KAvanAlten yeah reproducing is a stupid idea.
ah yes, that delightful relationship between Matthew and Edith. I love the relationships each sister has with her brother-in-law.
Can we talk about 2:14 where Mary just brushed Matthew off? 😂 Gosh they're the cutest
Lol.
Matthew is so amazing when Mary says “You can kiss me but that’s it.” As I’m pretty sure in those days he could’ve said no but he respected what Mary said. 🥰💗
Dan Stevens was the perfect Matthew pp-- that's why his character was so beloved and why he is still the most-talked about character from the show.
"But that's it". Obviously, Mary didn't know everything. 😀
@@flyboy152 wdym?
@@phoniixia706 It's a reference to a scene where Mary is talking to her father and alluding to Barrow's preferences, and when Robert asks how she knows about that, she quips "I've been married, I know everything." Well, if she knew as much as she claimed... you can figure out the rest 😏
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@@flyboy152 k
I was quite surprised to learn that gynecology had advanced enough in the 1920’s to recognize Mary’s infertility problem.
4:01 Mary caught Matthew by surprise there 😂🔥
everyone was so rushed like, oh we've been married for a couple months? like dude, it takes time... and they wanted mary to get over his death after a couple months like IT TAKES TIME
Miré toda la serie. Me encantó. Ayer fui a ver la película, hermosa. TRADUZCAN POR FAVOR. MIRTA DE ARGENTINA.
Well in their case they needed an heir in case something would happen to Matthew and so Downton would be secured
@@jehannethompson1432 and something did happen... :'(
@@opsatr YUP
Yeah but while this, there are people who one night it's all for making babies
I could never forgive Dan and the writers for killing Matthew. Dan Stevens wanted to get out of the show because he didn't want being type cast as Matthew from Downton Abbey, but he completely ruined the whole plotline. Mary was supposedly to live happily ever after with Matthew, probably with some problems here and there, but their marriage life was perfect! Love, wealth, an heir, and then suddenly Dan didn't want to be a part of the shows anymore and the writers had to change the whole story. It took me weeks to continue watching the next season after Matthew died. I even rewatched the whole bloody season 1 to 3 only to cure my traumatized heart from Matthew's death.
Matthew and Mary were best together.
"We've been trying for a few months..." Matthew, just give Mother Nature a chance!
3:12 The best part when he gets home from work
I did like Matthew in the beginning but not when Lavinia came on the scene he was so horrible to Mary when all she did was to love him I would like to of seen if she had lived who he would choose seeing when she was dying he said he wouldn't be happy with out her all this in front of Mary I could of cried for her she should of gone to America like her father said and found a good man
Qué más podría decir ella estaba muriendo
I don’t know why but I love the way she pauses before she says “operation” and then sips and Matthew looks up like “wwwhattt?”
I love how he said love him by all means but belive in me...its so powerful
Telling someone who's anxious to, whatever they do, not feel anxious might just make them more anxious 😅
Lol
Sometimes I feel I know maybe a little TOO much about these people.
A little bit, lmao its sweet because its realistic but I feel like I'm interrupting something by watching.
Ahahhahahaha
😂😂😂😂
"I suspect I'll need help controlling Rose." Fk she wasn't wrong XD
Understatement of the year. LOL
Mary and Mathew .. a beautiful match
Yeah 😊
3:12 me when i come home from school.........
Wait for working and college at the same time, all while having an active social life and expecting to meet someone special
LOL enjoy it while it lasts... working will be 3-5 times more exhausting ;)
@@JustBeingAwesome working? how about when you don't have a job and spend months trying to get one..... Then you're happy when they enslave you.. Adulthood is fucked up
@@Juan.Blanco sorry, have not experienced that. Good luck :)
@@JustBeingAwesome Never live in argentina, that's the lesson haha
Is there a more iconic couple?? 😂
Yes. In Casablanca.
Depends on your definition of “iconic.”
I grew up watching ABC daytime dramas.
I’m as much a fan of some of those couples as i am of Matthew and Mary.
Me too. I was so upset. However, he wanted out to play that weird part - which he got a lot of acknowledgement for - but, he should have found a way to remain in Downton Abbey.
They had Tom hang around for no reason. Maybe having Matthew it would've been better.
I just read through the season 3 script book - and they winded up cutting so many MM scenes. There was more dialogue in the tea shop. I always thought that scene ended a little funnily. Also a whole scene walking back to the house after the trip to London. Such a shame!
AHHH Such a shame they cut it out all...I should read one too
I remember reading that! It was soo worth the read!
3:12 🤣🤣🤣 Poor Matthew is so done.
You will make me untidy, so funny!
If ppl could live for thousand years and it feels like that they will certainly live that life together
“And don’t say if we ever have any cause we will” she wasn’t wrong however it didn’t really end well 😬
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7:13 I shift my chair like that too when I am lying 🤣
I just watched The Guest with Dan Stevens and now every time I see Matthew, I think of David. Dan plays two totally different characters so well. .... PEACE to ALL.
Will never get over his death..
I know this is immature but I've always giggled at the fact the fertility doctor is called Doctor Ryder (rider)
Ive never though of that before but now I am and it’s really weird lol
Dan Stevens reminds me so much of a young George Peppard, as when Mr. Peppard was in "Breakfast at Tiffanys." They look so alike as to be father and son.
lol at the end with the making babies line. he must have ravaged her the moment they got home. LOL ;D
😶😏
For sure! Probably at Painswick house before they went home :)
Lol
I just loved these two!
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when the add before this video is for Downton Abbey the movie...
C Ds IKR
Downtonception
Song "Love is in the Air" popped into my mind fir some reason...🤔😏🌋🤗🙄🦁⚘
i forgot how much I loved season 3? I think it was 3... maybe 4
Ivy B. 3 he was dead by 4
I swear if 2:04 was written differently, it would have been a hotter scene 😆 lmao
Matthew and Mary. *sigh* 🥰🥰🥰🥰
They are cute couple. Between Mary Matthew
best 10 mins of the entire 6 seasons lol
I still haven’t forgiven Dan Stevens.
I love the blue outfit Mary is wearing at the end.
Yes it was beautiful
Mary wore some really gorgeous outfits and she wore them like a model. Did you ever .Notice her hands she has beautiful hands long slender fingers
I'm not sure of the spellings but I believe Sir Philip is Tim Piggot-Smith who played Captain Ronald Merrick in the mini-series "The Jewel in the Crown". Now that he's older Mr. Piggot-Smith reminds of the actor James Mason.
Aww can't really see it no
Matt you've had to doctors to chill out. Do you need a slap upside the head??? My sister-in-law had endometriosis. She and my brother tried and tried and tried. The doctor went in and blew out her fallopian tubes. Bada bing bada boom.
"Yowling in it's crib" describes babies very well. I don't know why anyone wants any.
same here. they're overrated
That genuinely breaks my heart for you.
Babies are precious. If you don’t love babies, you’ve been absorbing the culture of death we currently live in.
3:06 - 3:13 story of my life 😂
Gosh I rewatched season 3 during lockdown while I started season 1 of Legion, Dan looks nothing like he used to in Downton. I watched Legion with my boyfriend he didn’t even recognize him😂 He literally asked is that the same guy who played lord lard when he watched David Haller doing drugs🤣🤣🤣
I think Mary and Matthew got engaged New Years 1919/20. They got married March or April 1920? So only 4 months later they are freaking out over fertility issues!!! 4 months! Ridiculous. Mary got pregnant in December 1920 or January 1921 and gave birth September 1921 when Matthew died.
They had to secure a dynasty
They didn't get engaged on New Year's eve, that was the Servants' Ball. It's the winter, but seems to be after the new year.
Is there anyway, some mysterious way of bringing Matthew back?…..Find a way please.
Did anyone ever say what exactly was the problem with Mary? I’ve always wondered what the procedure might have been for..
Strangely enough, it is the same problem I had when trying to conceive my first. We had been trying for about 18 months and I went to a fertility specialist. He told me that he suspected that one of my Fallopian tubes blocked. All he did was he used a gas pump to clean them out. Dr told me that it was an old procedure. I got pregnant the next month.
Sandra norman how did you know this was Mary’s issue? I just fought about it on reddit because so many were saying Mary had the same issue as Anna, the weak cervix, but I know it’s not the same issue because Mary couldn’t get pregnant, but anna could she just couldn’t keep the baby longer than a few months
@Witty Widow Laparoscopic surgery in 1920..yeah. 🙄
@Witty Widow It was in its infancy in 1920, and was still very experimental. Extremely unlikely a renowned surgeon would ever perform something new and untried.
@Witty Widow Invented, not in wide use. There's a big difference. Laparoscopy didn't really take off until the advent of miniature cameras, decades later. In 1920, it would have been used only if there was no other way, not on a routine, minor surgery, and that's assuming that Dr. Ryder was even qualified to use it.
Explains why Lady M never got in the family way with any of her previous tango.
She had only slept with one man before Matthew
@@gee2541 it only takes once…
Which season is this in?
Which episode ?
That doctor. That DOCTOR. I hATE HIS GUTS!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, he messed up with Sybil, but in this scene, he's giving Matthew good advice, not knowing about Mary's condition.
Such a sweet fairytale.
9:43 'So, now we can start making babies...' well Matthew sorry to disappoint but you do abandon Mary after the birth of your baby (singular not plural), George who looks just like you
He died, he didn't abandon her!
@@cindyhalpern3187 Dan Stevens abandoned her!
@@cindyhalpern3187 hahaha yeah I know but it still stands by what I said so sadly they didn't have more children
Which episode was this? I can't seem to track it down
These scenes are from multiple episodes in season 3.
Can anyone guess what Mary’s procedure was? I can’t figure out what it could have been.
I'm wondering too. Sounds like something made up by one of the male writers, and they were like, meh, nobody will mind that that's a wierd thing to say.
Removing blockage of Fallopian tubes?
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How many episodes was it between the one where Sibyl died and the one where Matthew died? I thought when I watched the show it was only a couple, but maybe I remember that really wrong. When Matthew is talking to Sir Phillips, that's the episode Sibyl dies in, right? And I thought Rose only came to live with the Crawleys after the episode where Mary has George and Matthew dies.
Sibyl died around the middle of the 3rd season, in episode 5, and Matthew died at the end of the season, in ep 9, so only a few episodes between the passings.
Rose had come to visit in Season 3, but she didn't come to live at Downton until the start of season 4.
And yes, the episode where Robert is talking with Sir Philip us the one where Sybil dies.
Well it was only a couple of episodes, however Mathew died about a year later
At around 50 secs in, a great attempt at a Hugh Grant impersonation - especially, when talking with his eyes closed, in that 'embarrassed' state (57 secs).
Convince me again ❤️❤️❤️
True
I loved when.Mathew had been so elated when Mary told Mathew that she was with child Pregnant Farhana
So what was the operation that she had??
It might have been to remove a cyst or something. Since she said it was a minor operation, I'm guessing a cyst but I'm probably wrong
Some are theorizing that she had blocked fallopian tubes, which required the operation to open up.
we dont know
9:03 I really wish to know what it was 🙃 why couldn't she talk to her own husband about it?!
Because Julian Fellowes couldn't decide what it was, so kept it ambiguous. It's just like what Bates did during the war to earn Robert's undying respect, as well as a limp: Fellowes couldn't decide what that was either, so never brought it up.
@@Kelaiah01 Also people were far more reticent until fairly recently. Through the early 1960s I heard people just say "Ladies' troubles" to describe various ailments. For instance the word hysterectomy was not uttered.
@@murrayaronson3753 I'm pretty sure it was the same issue Anna had... Because when Anna mentions her fertility issue to Mary, Mary mentions that she also had an issue with fertility and only needed a small operation to fix it. The issue (confirmed for Anna) was a weak neck of the womb, which causes the baby to abort when it becomes too heavy to be supported. This is repaired with a cervical cerclage, a large stitch at the neck of the womb to provide more support for the growing baby.
She's British nobility, that's why.
@@pukkuncheekin4370 probably not or that story like would have been Mary's. Mary's problem was that she couldn't get pregnant. It was probably something like uterine fibroids. Anna was pregnant several times before making it to term.
What operation did Mary have?
Does anyone know which episode that scene in the nursery is from? Where Mary says "I've stolen the nursery to be our sitting room"?
Season 3 epi 4 when Tom leaves Sybil in Ireland
Merry x mas family pro
Edith she is soo funny
I still think that it was a horrible idea 2 go an kill mathew they were perfect al least they could have waited a little more than just killing him right after the baby was born just cruel i would prefer that they had kept him in season 4 and that he died at the end of season 4 just we so so little of them together between the few scenes of season 1 of hate love and season 2 of being apart
I wanna see the power struggle between George, Sybil, Marigold and whatever the other kids are called. Sybil is the eldest, but George is the heir and he and Marigold are the only Crawleys; Sybil and Marigold are both girls however, so they may unite to depose George. Interesting, I prophesy civil unrest at Downton in the years to come.
If Sybil is like her parents, she wont want titles and money.
How do you know, Marigold is Crawley?
George Prchal this won’t happen as George’s mother owns half the estate
How is Marigold a Crawley but Sybil isn’t? 🤔
@@FutureSoapStar09 Sybil's surname is Branson where George's is Crawley. They're still first cousins and all but Marigold's is likely Crawley as well given Edith wasn't married to Michael.
How did it go?
Pretty bad!!
My life 😂😂
Ugh. The image of Mary Crawley in that thumbnail. I wouldn't want to stare into that face so closely. Good acting on Dan S.' part...
For be honest, Matthew should Downton Abbey 2 in Mary's past and also he met Lucy Smith who didnt know that she is Mary's third cousin. Lucy also attend the wedding of Mary & Matthew. One point she said "Marythew"
As an unknown minor servant. Lucy Smith would never have been invited to Mary and Matthew's wedding. Besides Lady Bagshaw was feuding with the Dowager.
Those were some of the silliest DA story suggestions I've ever read, and that's saying something. 🙄
What?what are you talking about lol who
What was the operation Mary had to become pregnant?
I think she had a small issue regarding her cervix
@@MarinaKaFai That was Anna. I don't believe they were specific about what Mary's issue was.
@@reginabillotti I have rewatched the series recently. When Matthew meets with Mary at the doctor in London, they go for tea afterwards and Mary says the issue was with her, they had to operate her, hence why she refused him in bed for some time.
@@MarinaKaFai Right, but they don't specify what the operation was or what exactly they were treating. Anna's issue, having a weak cervix, was diagnosed after she miscarried repeatedly, but Mary had trouble getting pregnant in the first place.
@@reginabillotti True, Mary's diagnosis was never truly revealed
What fertility OPERATION did Mary have? A blocked Fallopian tube?
I think she had blocked Fallopian tube
She had a blocked fallopian tube in 99, endometriosis laser treatment and D and C 03 along with mold allergy and Hay fever, PCOS, insulin resistance and a need for fertility drugs to ovulate 04 and 05
Mary's real life love story is as tragic...
Erm, did you know Michelle is engaged?
@@robertandhollyscorpiofan2697 luckily Michelle has found her happiness again (I hope so), but several years ago her fiancee died of cancer and she mourned him, saying she considered herself a widow.
@@alinapak2102 yes, i know she was engaged before and her fiancé died. 🤦♀
@@robertandhollyscorpiofan2697 then what is the point of your first comment???
MY GODS! can't that woman loosen up a bit!? She's so effin' stiff and formal even when she's just having tea with her husband!
"Stiff and formal" was the norm
in that era for that particular
socio-economic class. In fact,
in all of society, in those days,
people were very formal (by
today's standards). Men and
women had strictly defined
roles and one was judged
by how well one behaved.
The above is the reason why
those of Mary's class could
spot, within minutes, someone
who was not born to their
class. Even a very successful
person; who put on a veneer of
the proper manners could not
master the Intricacies of
behavior (for many years).
She’s an aristocrat. She is supposed to be posh and elegant. Most of the time she had a corset on so she couldn’t slouch and she’s supposed to have good posture
She good Mary
Why did Mary get so thin?
The last line was just naff and cringe-worthy.
mary became pregnant with mr. panuk and have asked for abortion on their family doctor, which is why they are having a hard time conceiving.
Are you Julian Fellowes? How about she did have some fertility problem and that's why she didn't get pregnant the 1st time too?
I hope they do have baby for Mary and matthew
Did you even watch the show?
Mary is the reason they don't have children.
Alas "'
😮
What the hell was Mary's fertility problem anyways?
a tilted uterus/cervix I'm guessing as it can be fixed with surgery