thanks to understanding mass pricing i was able to get 25+ orders within half a day, this is absolutely crazy in a good way, i normally avg about 2-3 sales a day and i see how this pricing tool is agame changer, i checked each and every sale and it was pricing really well.. cant thank you enough.
So glad to be helpful, I love stories like this. It would help a lot if TCGplayer would educate people about their own tools, but since they aren't I'll do my best to fill in x.x
As a Direct seller that was not aware of the Mass Pricing tool's benefits, this video was amazing. The way your videos show exactly what you see on your side and the exact functions of the Mass Pricing Tool tab helps so much. Thank you for all that you do.
this video is amazing, i was scared of pricing and mass pricing, but you totally saved my life and hours of editing prices every day. please keep uploading videos of tools like this to automize the work of being a tcg seller, this videos will never get old
chase, i just finished out tweaking and understing the mass price tool for tcgplayer and this is a game changer for me, i have about 4500ish listings of singles mostly mtg and ygo and ive always saw it as a hassle and time consumption to price accordingly and this just saved me hours on top of hours of pricing cards accordingly, thank you so much!!!
Appreciate your take and showing this chase, I can’t say with only about a few hundred listing and somewhere between 1-2K inventory, that I personally feel the need to use this tool. To me, if I miss things in my inventory and prices go up, it leaves potential snipes for customers to just move bulk that was sitting in my boxes anyways, so personally, I intend to still do manual price changes to my inventory myself for the foreseeable future - it takes more time sure, but again, I do this so I can spend all my time dealing with cards and my store, I recognize there’s things that may increase my efficiency and output which I will put it into practice, but some things I don’t exactly plan on utilizing, purposefully in fact. Not many are in that boat lol
Of course! This isn't needed by everyone, as I said in the video. This hopefully lets you know IF it's right for your business. TCGplayer unfortunately doesn't really talk about these tools much, so I'm hoping some hands on demonstrations will help people with the decision process. There are as many ways to operate as there are operators, so for sure make the best decision you can
@@TCGBulkKings yes totally! It’s actually why I got into watching your channel earlier last year, and appreciate your insight - as you were the only person I’d found on RUclips at that time (and currently as well tbh that really gave a thorough deep dive into the bulk market. I mainly sell Pokémon and some yugioh, though i probably will branch into MTG and sports cards as well, potentially. Yes I recognize my opinions with the tools may change in the future as my scale of volume increases, but that’s part of what im really focusing on right now as I get my grind and setup down on all these early orders - I enjoy messaging each customer, writing a handwritten note with every order, including a random freebie usually, and other small things that I feel make the order more personalized, and even as my volume may (hopefully!) increase in the future, I plan to simply dedicate more and more time to doing this, as again, I recognize a more manual operation is not as efficient as others - I do feel there can be a loss of human touch at large volume and I simply aim to retain that while being able to manage more and more high output days Keep up the videos bro, I always enjoy watching them! Buying a cheap scanner like the one you showcased is a tool that I probably will utilize eventually, and I wouldn’t have put it on my list of things to ‘upgrade or improve’ had i not seen it in your video
Quick question, so I have quite a few “speculative” cards in inventory that I price quite a bit higher than market with anticipation that if they go through a buy out phase my listing is already in and I don’t miss the buyout window. Does this tool have the ability to hold those cards prices without recalculating them with the rest of the inventory?
@@TCGBulkKings awesome, thanks! Might still be worth the upgrade to pro just so I can set my targets for cards under a certain price range and have it keep my bulk and low end organized. Love the content my man, my listed inventory is pushing 10k cards now so your videos have been immensely helpful and been digging back through your catalog of videos and keep learning new tricks.
Hopefully they add more options to customize rules. Have no problems with NM cards but I like to place bulk cards of lower condition as a certain percentage of one cent below market price. For LP I typically do 90% of one cent below NM market price, with a floor that varies by rarity/foil. If the card is or has been worth more than $1 then things change somewhat
If you search "boltless shelving' you'll find similar stuff all over the place. These randomly blue ones are on sale through Walmart.com right now: sovrn.co/wex73l1 That is an affiliate link (same link in the description I think), but like I said, you can find these anywhere.
So for your floor set at $0.10 cents, are you not concerned that cards that truly are worth say $.01 - .06 cents will never sell? That is only part that confuses me.. I have seen tons and tons of cards where the sale price seems pretty regular at a few pennies, so it seems like if you set to .10 cents you will never sell any of those cards. What is your view on this?
In the short term, some of them /do/ sell, as synergistic sales from people looking to get several cards from one source. Also some sell because people buy them from /me/ rather than some other store, because of my feedback and branding. And finally, in the long term, the prices will change. I'm not advocating for hoarding hundreds of copies of hundreds of different cards, if you need to clear them out, someone will buy them in bulk just like you did from someone else. Unless the market and/or civilization completely collapses, that is always an option, so it's hard to be completely stuck with something. But in general, I'm not concerned that these cards are just worthless and will /never/ sell, because it is the case that they do sell quite often. I get surprised every day by cards that move, that either I never expected to, or have shown for a long time that they aren't in demand.
I really appreciate this high level overview of how to set rules. Is there any major difference between your "store" rules and the "marketplace" rules?
The main difference I have is that I discount the price a little for buying in My Store (i.e., the pro seller website TCGplayer provides to pro sellers) versus the general marketplace price, to reflect the lower fees, and maybe entice people to purchase that way
I don't think I understand your question. If you're just starting out, you retain your own inventory and ship it out yourself to the customers after they buy. If you are using a service like Sort Your Product, I've never used it and so I can't really give advice on it. But I suspect that the rarity of the cards doesn't really matter, as much as the actual value of those cards. Best of luck with it!
How would you use this tool to separate the prices for cards that are in Direct and for cards that are not in Direct? I notice as I price my cards, some cards are in Direct and some aren’t. Which makes the pricing tricky because with direct for cards under $4, they do take 50%.
MassPrice (or TCGplayer at all, for that matter) doesn't currently have any way to separate pricing for cards available in Direct versus non-Direct. The only way I separate them is that when I initially list a card, I put it at the Market price. Then I use MassPrice with rules related to the Direct Low price (if the game is in Direct). If there isn't a Direct Low price, because TCGplayer is out of them at their warehouse, then it just skips that price change and leaves it at Market, or at least, that's what it looks like it's doing.
Do you have 2 rules, one for the cheap .10 cent cards and another rule for the other cards? I want to add the rule for the .10 cent cards but I also want my other inventory to update when prices go up or down but doesnt drop too low.
There isn't a way to make a rule for certain values of cards as far as I know, but you can set your rule to skip if it would change the price by a certain percentage, might help you out
@@PokemonTrainerEd it's the same rule no matter the value, as you can't set rules based on certain price points. I do use 2 rules, one that triggers off market price to catch all cards, and then another one that triggers off Direct low to reprice the cards in Direct
Great video Chase, in your opinion which time to run the rules would be best? Is there some common time in the day that prices fluctuate more than others? Dont want to run the rule earlier than needed and get crushed. If that makes sense!
I haven't really put a lot of thought into what time, I usually just run them in the morning because I do a lot of listing in the evening slash at night. I feel like it would be difficult, unless there's a highly dramatic difference, to be able to tell signal from noise when trying to adjust the timing of the repricing
@TCGBulkKings Appreciate the response, toying around currently at 4am for the update...we shall see! Thanks for showing all the behind the scenes work no one talks about
Is MassPrice really worth it? You can export your inventory to a spreadsheet and make your own equations to set your price and mass price it yourself? Am I missing something? Is QuickList the same as the tcgplayer app scanner?
I think MassPrice and QuickList are worth the extra 2% in fees, for me anyway. I value the automation involved in MassPrice, I can set the price rules and then not have to use mental space to know that I've got my cards priced where I want them relative to the market. And QL is not identical to the app scanner, it works a bit better, and covers more games. Again, to an extent decreases mental load as much as anything else. Also, QuickList Plus is coming sometime soon. These features aren't perfect, by any stretch of the imagination, but they are useable, and at the low end of the market where I hang out, 2% doesn't really feel like a lot. That said, if QL+ is missing a bunch of features I'm looking for, then I will be have to consider my options
@@TCGBulkKings I see thanks for the reply! Always appreciate you answering questions! Given my shipping costs, going for Direct will make my break even floor price per card to be 15 cents. I did make my floor once at 10 cents and woke up to 20 orders where 7-8 were losing me money. It may be because of my limited inventory at the moment (
Yeah, until you have a broad inventory that supports a lot of people making bigger carts, and/or can get your shipping expenses as low as possible, I would definitely encourage a bit of a higher floor than I have. I haven't used the Buylist feature much. I know there are people out there who have made it work for them pretty well, but it's just not in my brainspace. Certainly have a look at it though, it may be something that works a lot better for you than for me.
I have found the mass pricing tool to not have enough features to make it worth it. Especially for newer games (I mostly sell lorcana). There are too many low end sellers to start prices at low and the market prices are too volatile to use as the basis. I’ve lost a ton of potential $ by using the tool because as usual tcg player refuses to add features that are valuable like “lowest verified seller” or “price as 10th highest” etc. If you do not mind potentially losing money it saves time and if across multiple games it may help but I’ve found there are just too many people dumping cards at too low of prices comparatively I like the tool I just wish it had more options
They definitely could put more features into it. Feels very much like a 'minimum viable product' sort of thing, but I can say it has made me considerably more than any of those potential losses. I wish they wouldn't create these really interesting value adding products, and then just halt development on them. It would be cool if Quicklist worked with the newest scanners and not just one old series of one scanner brand, but here we are
Yes you can and no it won't =] Glad to help Longer version, yeah, the pro seller account is just something you can opt in to as a Lvl 4 seller, it charges a higher fee, but you get access to the tools. Direct you have to apply and qualify for, but being a Pro seller may give you the opportunity to get to the necessary revenue to get into Direct Best of luck!
as I typed my comment, put in the app for direct. I was finally accepted after fulfilling thousands of orders and being in business less than a year. I just wanted to let you know and thank you for helping me get there with all the priceless info your channel has provided. 🤝
Believe I’ve asked this before, but we get a steady amount of Japanese commons and uncommons. We have been lotting them up and listing on eBay, but was curious if you had any other ideas!
CardTrader is an option I intend to explore before long for non-English inventory, though I suspect it will move slower than your Ebay listings. Less work and/or maintenance though. Currently CDP doesn't recognize Japanese cards, but I hear that is something they will be working on
@@TCGBulkKings thanks for the information, we don’t have the time to sell individually. If you’re interested in buying lots of them let me know. We have around 3000 now but get hundreds every week - we do a lot of rip and ship and a lot of people don’t want the bulk cards so everything is pack fresh
No, it's explained by fewer and fewer of the lower condition cards selling. They will sell quickly right after release, but stop selling except in the best condition after the set matures. As such, the market price for NM will move the most, since there are exponentially more sales in that condition
@@TCGBulkKings Ok, I think I follow you. It is like a buyout in slow motion, the NM cards sell first and as the quantity lowers over time, you're left with more lower condition cards and the price of those lower condition cards go up due to supply and demand.
@@Crocodonk it's more like, since there aren't any transactions to base off of, the higher market price of the lower condition cards is an artifact left over from when the cards first came out. Unless it's older vintage cards, that's more like the scenario you described
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thanks to understanding mass pricing i was able to get 25+ orders within half a day, this is absolutely crazy in a good way, i normally avg about 2-3 sales a day and i see how this pricing tool is agame changer, i checked each and every sale and it was pricing really well.. cant thank you enough.
So glad to be helpful, I love stories like this. It would help a lot if TCGplayer would educate people about their own tools, but since they aren't I'll do my best to fill in x.x
@@TCGBulkKings thanks dude, your videos are awesome, keep up the good work!
As a Direct seller that was not aware of the Mass Pricing tool's benefits, this video was amazing. The way your videos show exactly what you see on your side and the exact functions of the Mass Pricing Tool tab helps so much. Thank you for all that you do.
Thanks, I'm glad to be helpful, best of luck, and I like your robot icon
this video is amazing, i was scared of pricing and mass pricing, but you totally saved my life and hours of editing prices every day. please keep uploading videos of tools like this to automize the work of being a tcg seller, this videos will never get old
Glad I could help!
chase, i just finished out tweaking and understing the mass price tool for tcgplayer and this is a game changer for me, i have about 4500ish listings of singles mostly mtg and ygo and ive always saw it as a hassle and time consumption to price accordingly and this just saved me hours on top of hours of pricing cards accordingly, thank you so much!!!
The amount of adjusts made to prices day to day is incredible with this tool. So worth it
I got an instant increase in my sell through because of it, for real
Thanks for the info! I signed up for Pro yesterday after watching this video and also seeing the news about the minimum shipping cost increase.
Extremely insightful for a Lvl 4 seller debating applying for pro, thank you!
Hope I've helped you make a decision! Notably, you don't have to "apply" for Pro, if I remember correctly, just agree to it
Appreciate your take and showing this chase, I can’t say with only about a few hundred listing and somewhere between 1-2K inventory, that I personally feel the need to use this tool. To me, if I miss things in my inventory and prices go up, it leaves potential snipes for customers to just move bulk that was sitting in my boxes anyways, so personally, I intend to still do manual price changes to my inventory myself for the foreseeable future - it takes more time sure, but again, I do this so I can spend all my time dealing with cards and my store, I recognize there’s things that may increase my efficiency and output which I will put it into practice, but some things I don’t exactly plan on utilizing, purposefully in fact. Not many are in that boat lol
Of course! This isn't needed by everyone, as I said in the video. This hopefully lets you know IF it's right for your business. TCGplayer unfortunately doesn't really talk about these tools much, so I'm hoping some hands on demonstrations will help people with the decision process. There are as many ways to operate as there are operators, so for sure make the best decision you can
@@TCGBulkKings yes totally! It’s actually why I got into watching your channel earlier last year, and appreciate your insight - as you were the only person I’d found on RUclips at that time (and currently as well tbh that really gave a thorough deep dive into the bulk market. I mainly sell Pokémon and some yugioh, though i probably will branch into MTG and sports cards as well, potentially.
Yes I recognize my opinions with the tools may change in the future as my scale of volume increases, but that’s part of what im really focusing on right now as I get my grind and setup down on all these early orders - I enjoy messaging each customer, writing a handwritten note with every order, including a random freebie usually, and other small things that I feel make the order more personalized, and even as my volume may (hopefully!) increase in the future, I plan to simply dedicate more and more time to doing this, as again, I recognize a more manual operation is not as efficient as others - I do feel there can be a loss of human touch at large volume and I simply aim to retain that while being able to manage more and more high output days
Keep up the videos bro, I always enjoy watching them! Buying a cheap scanner like the one you showcased is a tool that I probably will utilize eventually, and I wouldn’t have put it on my list of things to ‘upgrade or improve’ had i not seen it in your video
Waiting on orders to go through for lv4! 60+ sales all 5/5
W00t!
Quick question, so I have quite a few “speculative” cards in inventory that I price quite a bit higher than market with anticipation that if they go through a buy out phase my listing is already in and I don’t miss the buyout window. Does this tool have the ability to hold those cards prices without recalculating them with the rest of the inventory?
Hi! No! There isn't any way that I know of to not target some specific cards, only as granular as set and rarity to my knowledge
@@TCGBulkKings awesome, thanks! Might still be worth the upgrade to pro just so I can set my targets for cards under a certain price range and have it keep my bulk and low end organized. Love the content my man, my listed inventory is pushing 10k cards now so your videos have been immensely helpful and been digging back through your catalog of videos and keep learning new tricks.
Hopefully they add more options to customize rules. Have no problems with NM cards but I like to place bulk cards of lower condition as a certain percentage of one cent below market price. For LP I typically do 90% of one cent below NM market price, with a floor that varies by rarity/foil. If the card is or has been worth more than $1 then things change somewhat
Yeah I wish they didn't restrict the number of scheduled rules you can have, out that it at least was much higher
great video as usual! what type of shelving is that? I need to upgrade from these dense plastic ones
If you search "boltless shelving' you'll find similar stuff all over the place. These randomly blue ones are on sale through Walmart.com right now: sovrn.co/wex73l1
That is an affiliate link (same link in the description I think), but like I said, you can find these anywhere.
So for your floor set at $0.10 cents, are you not concerned that cards that truly are worth say $.01 - .06 cents will never sell? That is only part that confuses me.. I have seen tons and tons of cards where the sale price seems pretty regular at a few pennies, so it seems like if you set to .10 cents you will never sell any of those cards. What is your view on this?
In the short term, some of them /do/ sell, as synergistic sales from people looking to get several cards from one source. Also some sell because people buy them from /me/ rather than some other store, because of my feedback and branding. And finally, in the long term, the prices will change. I'm not advocating for hoarding hundreds of copies of hundreds of different cards, if you need to clear them out, someone will buy them in bulk just like you did from someone else. Unless the market and/or civilization completely collapses, that is always an option, so it's hard to be completely stuck with something. But in general, I'm not concerned that these cards are just worthless and will /never/ sell, because it is the case that they do sell quite often. I get surprised every day by cards that move, that either I never expected to, or have shown for a long time that they aren't in demand.
Thanks for the insight - love the content has help me so much over my journy in tcg!
I really appreciate this high level overview of how to set rules. Is there any major difference between your "store" rules and the "marketplace" rules?
The main difference I have is that I discount the price a little for buying in My Store (i.e., the pro seller website TCGplayer provides to pro sellers) versus the general marketplace price, to reflect the lower fees, and maybe entice people to purchase that way
@@TCGBulkKings that makes sense. Thank you!
Great videos! I'm going to send in my first batch of cards to sell on tcg. Do you have any tips as to what rarities to send in starting out? Thanks!
I don't think I understand your question. If you're just starting out, you retain your own inventory and ship it out yourself to the customers after they buy. If you are using a service like Sort Your Product, I've never used it and so I can't really give advice on it. But I suspect that the rarity of the cards doesn't really matter, as much as the actual value of those cards. Best of luck with it!
How would you use this tool to separate the prices for cards that are in Direct and for cards that are not in Direct? I notice as I price my cards, some cards are in Direct and some aren’t. Which makes the pricing tricky because with direct for cards under $4, they do take 50%.
MassPrice (or TCGplayer at all, for that matter) doesn't currently have any way to separate pricing for cards available in Direct versus non-Direct. The only way I separate them is that when I initially list a card, I put it at the Market price. Then I use MassPrice with rules related to the Direct Low price (if the game is in Direct). If there isn't a Direct Low price, because TCGplayer is out of them at their warehouse, then it just skips that price change and leaves it at Market, or at least, that's what it looks like it's doing.
Do you have 2 rules, one for the cheap .10 cent cards and another rule for the other cards? I want to add the rule for the .10 cent cards but I also want my other inventory to update when prices go up or down but doesnt drop too low.
There isn't a way to make a rule for certain values of cards as far as I know, but you can set your rule to skip if it would change the price by a certain percentage, might help you out
@@TCGBulkKings well for example pokemon and yugioh, how do you have it set for the .10 cent cards and the ones worth more?
@@PokemonTrainerEd it's the same rule no matter the value, as you can't set rules based on certain price points. I do use 2 rules, one that triggers off market price to catch all cards, and then another one that triggers off Direct low to reprice the cards in Direct
@@TCGBulkKings I have so many questions for you and wish I had time to get them answered lol. Appreciate ya!
@@TCGBulkKings what the rule set up again? And have you lost a few dollars on your higher end cards or no?
Great video Chase, in your opinion which time to run the rules would be best? Is there some common time in the day that prices fluctuate more than others? Dont want to run the rule earlier than needed and get crushed. If that makes sense!
I haven't really put a lot of thought into what time, I usually just run them in the morning because I do a lot of listing in the evening slash at night. I feel like it would be difficult, unless there's a highly dramatic difference, to be able to tell signal from noise when trying to adjust the timing of the repricing
@TCGBulkKings Appreciate the response, toying around currently at 4am for the update...we shall see! Thanks for showing all the behind the scenes work no one talks about
Is MassPrice really worth it? You can export your inventory to a spreadsheet and make your own equations to set your price and mass price it yourself? Am I missing something? Is QuickList the same as the tcgplayer app scanner?
I think MassPrice and QuickList are worth the extra 2% in fees, for me anyway. I value the automation involved in MassPrice, I can set the price rules and then not have to use mental space to know that I've got my cards priced where I want them relative to the market. And QL is not identical to the app scanner, it works a bit better, and covers more games. Again, to an extent decreases mental load as much as anything else. Also, QuickList Plus is coming sometime soon.
These features aren't perfect, by any stretch of the imagination, but they are useable, and at the low end of the market where I hang out, 2% doesn't really feel like a lot. That said, if QL+ is missing a bunch of features I'm looking for, then I will be have to consider my options
@@TCGBulkKings I see thanks for the reply! Always appreciate you answering questions! Given my shipping costs, going for Direct will make my break even floor price per card to be 15 cents. I did make my floor once at 10 cents and woke up to 20 orders where 7-8 were losing me money. It may be because of my limited inventory at the moment (
Yeah, until you have a broad inventory that supports a lot of people making bigger carts, and/or can get your shipping expenses as low as possible, I would definitely encourage a bit of a higher floor than I have.
I haven't used the Buylist feature much. I know there are people out there who have made it work for them pretty well, but it's just not in my brainspace. Certainly have a look at it though, it may be something that works a lot better for you than for me.
I have found the mass pricing tool to not have enough features to make it worth it. Especially for newer games (I mostly sell lorcana). There are too many low end sellers to start prices at low and the market prices are too volatile to use as the basis. I’ve lost a ton of potential $ by using the tool because as usual tcg player refuses to add features that are valuable like “lowest verified seller” or “price as 10th highest” etc.
If you do not mind potentially losing money it saves time and if across multiple games it may help but I’ve found there are just too many people dumping cards at too low of prices comparatively
I like the tool I just wish it had more options
They definitely could put more features into it. Feels very much like a 'minimum viable product' sort of thing, but I can say it has made me considerably more than any of those potential losses. I wish they wouldn't create these really interesting value adding products, and then just halt development on them. It would be cool if Quicklist worked with the newest scanners and not just one old series of one scanner brand, but here we are
price of 1st page would definately change the game
thanks for the useful info! can I have a pro seller acc if I am online only? will it affect my goal of becoming a direct seller?
Yes you can and no it won't =] Glad to help
Longer version, yeah, the pro seller account is just something you can opt in to as a Lvl 4 seller, it charges a higher fee, but you get access to the tools. Direct you have to apply and qualify for, but being a Pro seller may give you the opportunity to get to the necessary revenue to get into Direct
Best of luck!
@@TCGBulkKings thank you for responding! 🤝
as I typed my comment, put in the app for direct. I was finally accepted after fulfilling thousands of orders and being in business less than a year. I just wanted to let you know and thank you for helping me get there with all the priceless info your channel has provided. 🤝
@@ron.quixote4640 that's so awesome 👍 give Ron some congrats 🎉
Paying the extra fees for Pro is completely worth it for the mass price tools.
Makes all the other benefits a free roll, love it
Believe I’ve asked this before, but we get a steady amount of Japanese commons and uncommons. We have been lotting them up and listing on eBay, but was curious if you had any other ideas!
CardTrader is an option I intend to explore before long for non-English inventory, though I suspect it will move slower than your Ebay listings. Less work and/or maintenance though. Currently CDP doesn't recognize Japanese cards, but I hear that is something they will be working on
@@TCGBulkKings thanks for the information, we don’t have the time to sell individually. If you’re interested in buying lots of them let me know. We have around 3000 now but get hundreds every week - we do a lot of rip and ship and a lot of people don’t want the bulk cards so everything is pack fresh
Thanks for making this video!
No problem 🤖
Mass price is the sole reason i went pro
Thanks again!
You look like your not feeling so good, I hope all is well.
Making it, hope you're doing well also
Thank you so much.
You're welcome!
Isn't it weird that for MTG cards the worse the condition of a card is the higher the TCG market price gets?
No, it's explained by fewer and fewer of the lower condition cards selling. They will sell quickly right after release, but stop selling except in the best condition after the set matures. As such, the market price for NM will move the most, since there are exponentially more sales in that condition
@@TCGBulkKings Ok, I think I follow you. It is like a buyout in slow motion, the NM cards sell first and as the quantity lowers over time, you're left with more lower condition cards and the price of those lower condition cards go up due to supply and demand.
@@Crocodonk it's more like, since there aren't any transactions to base off of, the higher market price of the lower condition cards is an artifact left over from when the cards first came out. Unless it's older vintage cards, that's more like the scenario you described
@@TCGBulkKings Ok, I get it now. Thanks :)