@@TheHybridGuy I installed the new battery. upon replacement I noticed the Nimh connections were corroded so I used Nickel connectors/ nuts. Immediately I notice that my 2008 Prius battery level goes green. The drain is less and my mileage is a little better with better acceleration. All the new cells were 16.46 and one was 16.47 except the special one. Overall, I am very pleased in Texas and looking forward to hitting the mountains and ski slopes.
@@DreamMachineX Doing great. I did find that there was corrosion on the pins of the connector for the ECU and wire harness so I ended up replacing those. But the pack has been great. It can handle long periods of disuse much better than the original.
As someone who's looking for a Prius soon, this information is incredibly valuable. Thank you so much - glad to see you're sold out (Apr 2021), looking forward for updates on the next batch.
@@TheHybridGuy my gen 2 has a Hymotion pack in parrallel wuth the oum pack (which is getting weak at 300k miles!) - no problem with the nexgen upgrade in my car? ruclips.net/video/F5hBdRqQsiE/видео.html
According to Mr Prius app, our 144v 2012 Prius C nihy pack is still good. Resistance is still fine. I can still get 70 mpg around town. The reason this C2 is still running like new, is low mileage. 27,000 miles!
@@alext8828 Do own a 2012 Prius C? (Not the large type 'heavy' Prius) Because these little cars can get 70 MPG on flat roads, average speeds 25-30 MPH, If you know how to HyperMile them. (44 PSI in tires). If you drive it like a regular car, you will get 40 to 50 MPG. My wife never gets 70 MPG, because she doesn't get off the gas pedal when the car wants to go into EV on a flat road or down a long hill. Don't take my word for it, use Google..
@@TheHybridGuy Which Prius do you have? 10 years ago was the Gen 3 in production, so it would have to be a Gen 1 or Gen 2. I still have the original Gen 2 battery in my 2009. 14 years and still going strong. But I have had to replace my 08 RX400h and 10 GS450h.
I really want to go this route, sounds really good however, it's $1900 plus shipping for my Gen 2 and the warranty is 2 yr/unlimited miles which for me is under 20k. I can get a brand new Toyota OEM for $1630 here and I will have a piece of mind for the next 10 years (Toyota warranty is 1 yr but it's battery has been proven to last at least 10 years). Can I swap out just one bad module down the line or do I have to buy a whole new pack again due to 1 bad module? Any videos on install for a Gen 2 Prius? If the battery is as good as it claims (not trying to be a smart ass), why not up the warranty instead of just 2 years, Greenbean battery offers lifetime warranty which includes installation and they come out to you. Thanks
Something to put your mind at ease. These lithium batteries are at 7 years with no degradation. You can’t say that about NiMH. That is a great price for a nickel pack but remember it’s old tech. And swapping modules down the road without balancing and proper reconditioning will only lead to failure and you will be fighting it.
Green Bean is a reman battery it will never match the capacity of new. You will spend more time on the phone with warranty and claims to get another installed than enjoying your Prius. Your fuel economy won’t be as good and you acceleration will stink too.
You still never mentioned why you don't offer more then 2 years warranty. That's just like a normal 12V battery warranty which you have to replace every 2-5yrs. I went LifePo4 on my Harley Davidson battery sure it was better then original but 3 times the price and still had to replace it around the same time or just a bit over as original. Also there's a reason why Toyota still uses Nimh in their newer vehicles and backed by 10 years or 150k miles. I would consider this Lithium battery otherwise if it wasn't for the short warranty.
I've restored NiMh batteries on many prius's that ive owned. I have many spare battery packs accumulated over the years. I would love to use one spare pack in the void above the spare tire to convert a Gen2 or Gen3 Prius into a plug-in prime that can get 12-25 mph before ICE engine kicks on. can you direct me to someone who can show me how this is possible?
I see you know a lot about prius battery. What are you doing about the over charge? NMHI goes to 80% . I have been tested prius with new nmhi battery and lithium ion battery, MPG increase just a couple more miles, no a big increase.. even if Installing old battery, MPG stays the same. My point for experience, having a new or powerful hv battery doesn't increase much MPG. I had a 2005 prius with plug in battery, and it only increase 8 mpg more. What are you saying has to be tested more.
All the new modules are individually monitored with built-in microchips that allow them to charge up to 97% instead of the standard 70% like on NiMH. 30% of energy with NiMH is lost to heat. With more available energy in this pack, you have increased EV time which translates into MPG. We have thoroughly tested this battery and it is not like the plug-in style you had it just makes your current Prius more efficient.
I fill like in winter lithium batteries only dead ballast. They doing nothing. But when temperature is 65-85, they really work. I’m talking about OEM batteries
So, after watching the entire video, do I understand all that I need to do, when I receive the 14 packs for my Prius, is just to install them. There is nothing more that I would need to do? I worry about the balancing. Is there something more that I would need to do in order for these packs to work.
Quick question; the NiMH BMS doesn’t have any battery balancing; the voltage sense harness only measures voltages. It works because NiMH charging efficiency falls at higher state of charge, and wastes charge as heat - meaning the car ‘overcharges’ the battery slightly if there is an imbalance. NiMH can tolerate this slow overcharging. How do the Lithium replacement cells manage this (especially as they can’t communicate with each other)?
@@backwoodsbungalow9674 I'm not certain, though reads like each battery has their own BMS-Charge Controller-Under/Over Voltage protection? Is that correct?
there are different kinds of upgrades. there is the cylindrical green and orange ones and there is the blocks from nexcell. can you tell me what if any difference they may have?
This is really helpful info! I'm strongly thinking of buying a used Prius V and converting it to a camping/party-mobile. Also as a electricity hub in case of physical disaster - it's basically a generator on wheels, so... 👍🏾
This is actually a typo and I need to redo this video. It is indeed 2.6x the power BUT the version 2 which has not been released yet will be 4x the power .
If I use lithium battery of chr and use it in prius 3rd gen, will this work? Mind it that I'm from Karachi, Pakistan where its impossible to get your services. We have to get a used Japanese battery part only.
Hi, Would it be possible to get the 3D printing STL files for the empty case of these NiMH packs? Or just buy the empty cases and fit the batteries ourself?
I'm skeptical. How can the HCM "know" how to condition, charge, and discharge Li-Poly? How can it command it to deliver and accept more current that the MGs were designed to accept and deliver with the Ni-Mh batteries? Put a different way, how can the HCM adjust to completely different parameters? Toyota engineers are pretty smart and I find it hard to believe that the car isn't going to know that something is out of spec with the battery pack, and either return a code or operate in a limp home mode. It makes no sense to me.
@@tomaliza5884 Right now the warranty is 2 years unlimited miles. Nexpower is very good about taking care of the customer though. With replacing nickel modules and no balancing you are running on hopes and dreams. it could last, but chances are it won't and you are also not operating at peak efficiency.
Any plans to get more in stock... wow... I just looked a few days ago and there were at least some cells left. They're all sold out now! Man! Guessing they're lasting well too or people just want those cells for whatever they're doing. ;-) Let us know what your thought are when they'll be available again? Great to see a like for like, like cell swap.
i mean, the only thing i didnt hear mentioned , after showing all the advantages of this kit. the original battery has been known to last 10+ years, up to 15 years and still function. what is the life span of these batteries, the charge discharge cycles the battery is rated for is never listed. how much capacity will this battery have after 2 years, and 1000s of charge discharge cycles? whats are things looking like after 5 years with this battery? i mean there are actually some nice things about the oem battery chemistry not mentioned. i mean if i average 43 mpg on the oem battery, and spend 900 bucks on an oem remanufactured battery, it brings the car to oem specs, and that battery lasts for a good 5 years providing the oem performance during the 5 year duration, and it cost me about 900 bucks. now, i get this lithium battery, at a cost of 2100$ , yea it gets you 53 mpg now or better, so lets math it out. how much gas savings do you get, going from 43 mpg, to 53mpg on average? well there is a diminishing return unfortunately. i mean going from 10 mpg to 20 mpg is an amazing savings. going from 20 to 30 mpg, is a nice savings. going from 30 to 40, yea u still save, but its not as much as u think. and, going from 40 to 50 mpg, just saves u a little bit. point is, does the savings from 43 mpt, to 53 mpg justify the extra cost of the lithium battery? in 2 years time, u may show that u saved enough to justify it. now, what after 5 years? well the oem battery remains consistent , however , until you demonstrate the product after a duty cycle about equal to 5 years of charges and discharges , im betting after that period, the oem battery will be more consistent, with the lithium battery having lost some 30 to 40% of its capacity. if i have to buy a new lithium pack every 5 years, to maintain its performance, calculate savings on the better mpg, now compare an oem remanufactured battery, that still works great after 5 years at half the cost, hmm. well i think you should do the math your self. in the short term, i have no doubt the lithium battery is far superior. however for the long term, the oem battery will remain consistent for many more years i think over this battery, say after 5 years, in which case the oem battery would be a better value. i mean you wont know if you dont math it out your self, compare duty cycles of both types of batteries, and over a 5 year period, examine the true savings and costs of each battery.
These original LiFePo batteries are showing almost no degradation after 7 years of constant use. The tech is incredibly promising which is why Toyota is looking into using it.
Hi there , is shipping to New Zealand an option? , shame @$1900 thats over half the cost of another car.and i bet shipping outside the USA would be anothe $300 USD😞
Just purchased a NexCell LiFePO4 upgrade for my Prius. Do you know what the average life expectancy for this battery might be? I've heard that LiFePO4 batts can withstand many more charge/discharge cycles. Thanks.
I take it this will work on a 2011 Lexus CT200h? Was only part way through the video... you do cover it'll work on the CT. Thanks for all the info. Hopefully they come back into stock soon. Any other companies you recommend that may offer this type of service?
Lithium runs MUCH cooler so the venting needs not modification. These batteries are made specifically for the Toyota hybrids right now. projectlithium.com/?ref=e9JRo
@@monoshock57, basically they are replacing the "blocks" in your existing pack. Think of this as like 14 blocks which is how the Prius BSM reads the system anyway.
What you think about getting rid of the catalytic converters with your more advanced battery, that way Prius owner don’t have to keep looking over their shoulders about getting them stolen!
cool! I have a 2008 that I purchased with 178k on it. It now has 219k, and still seems to be good! I am interested in upgrading at some point. I have a question, I want to convert my Prius into a camper. Could I add this lithium battery to the Nickel battery to get more total juice?
Sadly you cannot combine these technologies but I will say you will be so satisfied with the new Lithium version you will not worry about extended range. I will tell you that extended range has been done before on Gen 2 Prius but it never became commercially viable due to the cost of the additional pack.
BUT I do have something for you if you are looking to get into camping with your Prius check out plugoutpower.com and if you buy.. here is 5% off your order use code ‘9429’. I just bought one for my Prius.. Videos to come soon on how cool this thing is.
@@TheHybridGuy I wonder if the plug out power people have modified the inverter or if it's just stock. I've been using a midnight classic connected to my Prius high voltage battery with decent results.
@@TheHybridGuy I was only able to pull around 2000 Watts from the Prius and send towards my 48 volt system before the midnight would error out. Sure I could have had to or three midnight classics but a functioning 4,000 watts from the plug power unit would be great. These inverters are only $600 on eBay.
Hi, just asking if you can help me with my 2013 Toyota Prius V or Alpha 7 seater here in New Zealand. The Lithium-Ion battery is located in the center console of the car. Is there a mesh for hybrid filter fan so I can clean it? Unfortunately I can't find one. Thanks in advance
I love it! but I live in Ecuador. I think you can improve the marqueting by sending the modules to Jehu Garcia and William Prowse. They have hundred of thousands of subs. great job.
If somebody reading this/watching this has replaced the batteries with these BETTER units, have you seen increased performance? I'm talking better acceleration, 0-60mph, etc. I have still to read feedback with objective performance numbers. Thank you!
Hi! So performance increase is a yes. But not in the way you think. Your battery can hold a higher load over a longer period of time. That means as you accelerate the battery will continue to provide stable power out put. Your passing and climbing loads are also more stable as the battery doesn’t drop off like NiMH does (and especially on an older or reconditioned battery) Your Prius will feel stronger and quicker. But by how much? I’ll need to make a video for that.
Thinking about buying this pack for my aging 2004 prius, But I live in sub 32 climate for 4 months of year. What does the battery pack do. when below 32 degrees How does the new blades handle that, Do they not run till temp goes up, Please explain?
This battery has been tested in extreme cold with great results. Because it is not water based freezing isn’t likely. NIMH could freeze if voltage is too low and the electrolyte can freeze.
Hi there Hybrid guy, thank you for a detailed video. Question please, I live in a hot country in which we have temperatures in excess of 30⁰C for 7-8 months a year. I heard lithium doesn't fare well with hot climates. Could you please advise me thank you kindly
My 2013 prius BMS is design to manage and charge NiMH... how is it possible to simply replace it with LiFePO4? The chemistry and voltage isn't the same. This is exciting - do you ship to Australia?
Hi Andrew. The BMS is designed for NiMH you are right. However there are microchips that “fool” the BMS into working with this new battery. I’ve personally been using it for over a year and have had zero issues but increased fuel economy
One thing ive noticed.. the SOC is usually 60 to 65%...so it goes bad faster as its not fully charged and utilized. after lithium changeover what will be the SOC? if its still 60-65% wudnt it be under used again.. and may eventually go bad soon😕
Excellent observation. With these packs, because they are internally regulated with their own computer chip they are allowed to charge up to 97% instead of the 70% that you see with NiMH. Over years of use they will go bad but so will NiMH. In that time frame you will get longer sustained and better MPG than you would with NiMH.
I'd love to do this. 2012 V. 179,000 miles. Battery degrading code. But, the has engine is also drinking oil like crazy. Not sure if a new engine and battery is worth it for this car. Although it is in beautiful shape inside and out and it's paid off. 🤔 Decisions.
@@TheHybridGuy It's my only vehicle right now. Hoping to get into a new Sienna in a year or so when finances are better. I had planned on keeping the V as a second vehicle, but I'm not sure if I will if I'll have to sink a bunch of money into it. What do you think it's worth in it's current condition?
@@watchandjewelryloft4713 tough to say without pictures. Send me an email at pneilson@certifiedautoconsulting.com and let’s discuss further. Happy to pay top dollar if I can help out.
so is this pack better than the packs in the newer 2017 pruises that use lith packs... is it a lighter battery? with more power etc...i am a bit confused... i have many rc planes,boats cars etc so i understand the power of nickel and lith batteries... stopped using nickel batts years ago...thanks
Dunno why people can't read what's written everywhere about this upgrade. It's a Lithium Iron Phosphate battery and it's about 40 pounds lighter than the Nickel Metal Hydride original. Li-Fe-Po4 can withstand being 100% charged and discharged to near zero without damage, unlike NiMH and Li-Ion. Thus almost 100% of the capacity of the NexCell battery is usable, which is more capactity than the *usable* capacity of the NiMH original which is never allowed to charge over 90% or discharge to less than around 30%.
Having seen these on another video drive 5 miles / 8km on EV-only this is tempting to swap out even though I don't need to. It's annoying when the ICE kicks in all the time with the weak NiMH batteries....
yes it will work with CT200h. Not sure of a place in Texas that can do the install. BUT if you are into taking a journey I would be happy to do an install for you. But we are about 40 hours apart drive time.
Does it balance at the cell level by having a voltage sensor and resistor on every cell in the module? I would assume since there's no extra wiring that it's doing a top balance instead of bottom?
@@TheHybridGuy I signed up for the newsletter and for an account, so hopefully I'll see when they come in and can get it before the end of November when I do a road trip to the West Coast. Thanks!
Does this work with a 2012 Prius Plug In? It it does, will I get longer range after a full charge? And, do you make a pack for the Lexus RX hybrids? Thanks.
I pulled the trigger. If Richard Branson can go to space, then I can upgrade the Prius w/ better technology. Thanks for the vid
Nice! Good call.
@@TheHybridGuy I installed the new battery. upon replacement I noticed the Nimh connections were corroded so I used Nickel connectors/ nuts. Immediately I notice that my 2008 Prius battery level goes green. The drain is less and my mileage is a little better with better acceleration. All the new cells were 16.46 and one was 16.47 except the special one. Overall, I am very pleased in Texas and looking forward to hitting the mountains and ski slopes.
@@johncole3010 you will love it. I have the prototype and been rocking if for 20k and love everything about it.
@The Hybrid Guy just starting the video what kind of mileage are you seeing with this
@@TheHybridGuy watching the video as I have time pretty sure I'm going to pull the trigger in a few weeks to a month
Just did this install on my 2007 Prius this weekend. Fun project! Looking forward to the next few weeks experiencing it.
How and where I can't find info on how to get one can you give me info please
How is the Prius doing since you installed it? Can you provide an update?
@@DreamMachineX Doing great. I did find that there was corrosion on the pins of the connector for the ECU and wire harness so I ended up replacing those. But the pack has been great. It can handle long periods of disuse much better than the original.
As someone who's looking for a Prius soon, this information is incredibly valuable. Thank you so much - glad to see you're sold out (Apr 2021), looking forward for updates on the next batch.
projectlithium.com/?ref=e9JRo the batch is in!!
@@TheHybridGuy my gen 2 has a Hymotion pack in parrallel wuth the oum pack (which is getting weak at 300k miles!) - no problem with the nexgen upgrade in my car? ruclips.net/video/F5hBdRqQsiE/видео.html
@@jmm1000 this is an interesting topic. I’d like to explore it more with you.
Is the battery pack heater for winter/below freezing Temps? Charging lifepo4 below 32f will destroy it.
According to Mr Prius app, our 144v 2012 Prius C nihy pack is still good. Resistance is still fine. I can still get 70 mpg around town. The reason this C2 is still running like new, is low mileage. 27,000 miles!
70 mpg around town? No! I own one. I don't believe you. That's ridiculous.
@@alext8828 Do own a 2012 Prius C? (Not the large type 'heavy' Prius) Because these little cars can get 70 MPG on flat roads, average speeds 25-30 MPH, If you know how to HyperMile them. (44 PSI in tires).
If you drive it like a regular car, you will get 40 to 50 MPG.
My wife never gets 70 MPG, because she doesn't get off the gas pedal when the car wants to go into EV on a flat road or down a long hill.
Don't take my word for it, use Google..
Finally a qualified person.
This WILL save me tons of money and effort when I eventually upgrade my Prius PHV's battery!
How long are these Lithium battery lasting? They maybe more powerful, but Lithium does not last more than 3-5 years in my phone or computer.
10 plus years
@@TheHybridGuy Which Prius do you have? 10 years ago was the Gen 3 in production, so it would have to be a Gen 1 or Gen 2. I still have the original Gen 2 battery in my 2009. 14 years and still going strong. But I have had to replace my 08 RX400h and 10 GS450h.
@@anthony19721 I have a Gen 2 Prius it will be upgrading again here soon.
I really want to go this route, sounds really good however, it's $1900 plus shipping for my Gen 2 and the warranty is 2 yr/unlimited miles which for me is under 20k. I can get a brand new Toyota OEM for $1630 here and I will have a piece of mind for the next 10 years (Toyota warranty is 1 yr but it's battery has been proven to last at least 10 years). Can I swap out just one bad module down the line or do I have to buy a whole new pack again due to 1 bad module? Any videos on install for a Gen 2 Prius? If the battery is as good as it claims (not trying to be a smart ass), why not up the warranty instead of just 2 years, Greenbean battery offers lifetime warranty which includes installation and they come out to you. Thanks
Something to put your mind at ease. These lithium batteries are at 7 years with no degradation. You can’t say that about NiMH. That is a great price for a nickel pack but remember it’s old tech. And swapping modules down the road without balancing and proper reconditioning will only lead to failure and you will be fighting it.
Green Bean is a reman battery it will never match the capacity of new. You will spend more time on the phone with warranty and claims to get another installed than enjoying your Prius. Your fuel economy won’t be as good and you acceleration will stink too.
You still never mentioned why you don't offer more then 2 years warranty. That's just like a normal 12V battery warranty which you have to replace every 2-5yrs. I went LifePo4 on my Harley Davidson battery sure it was better then original but 3 times the price and still had to replace it around the same time or just a bit over as original. Also there's a reason why Toyota still uses Nimh in their newer vehicles and backed by 10 years or 150k miles. I would consider this Lithium battery otherwise if it wasn't for the short warranty.
when will you have batteries back in stock
When will they have new batches for a Prius Gen 2?
I've restored NiMh batteries on many prius's that ive owned. I have many spare battery packs accumulated over the years. I would love to use one spare pack in the void above the spare tire to convert a Gen2 or Gen3 Prius into a plug-in prime that can get 12-25 mph before ICE engine kicks on. can you direct me to someone who can show me how this is possible?
Would this amazing battery pack be available soon for Prius 2 ? Is that possible to send it to France ?
Thanks guys!
We will ship it to France.
You keep saying 400amps in your video but your website says only 260
Typo. 260 Amp hours initially it was rated for 400 but the company wanted to play it safe and rated it for 260.
I see you know a lot about prius battery. What are you doing about the over charge? NMHI goes to 80% . I have been tested prius with new nmhi battery and lithium ion battery, MPG increase just a couple more miles, no a big increase.. even if Installing old battery, MPG stays the same. My point for experience, having a new or powerful hv battery doesn't increase much MPG. I had a 2005 prius with plug in battery, and it only increase 8 mpg more. What are you saying has to be tested more.
All the new modules are individually monitored with built-in microchips that allow them to charge up to 97% instead of the standard 70% like on NiMH. 30% of energy with NiMH is lost to heat. With more available energy in this pack, you have increased EV time which translates into MPG. We have thoroughly tested this battery and it is not like the plug-in style you had it just makes your current Prius more efficient.
I have the lithium battery in my 2022 Prius XLE I'm getting 65 mpg
Sold! When are these going to be available for purchase again? As of now 01/02/2022 you are SOLD OUT!
I have an 03 I want to change over to LI why don't offer battery's
for 03
Gen 1 Prius battery is many modules. What would a 85000 mile 2001 UK car be worth with good battery?
Did I misunderstand? I thought there was going to be a link in the description?
Hi, there will be soon the site is still under construction.
Super sorry about that but here is the link projectlithium.com/?ref=e9JRo
I fill like in winter lithium batteries only dead ballast. They doing nothing. But when temperature is 65-85, they really work. I’m talking about OEM batteries
Pretty exciting news!!! Will you guys ever make one for my ls600hl??
packs will be coming for your car.
So. How can the battery pack have the same voltage and use the same BMS?
How to buy ion lithium cells for prius gen 4 in brazil? My prius has NiMH cells. In U.S. the same car has Li cells.
Hi 1.Which Lithium Polymer brand battery is the most reliable? A First gen engine smoking solutions?
@@Ruach_Isaiah.44-3 not sure i understand the question.
So, after watching the entire video, do I understand all that I need to do, when I receive the 14 packs for my Prius, is just to install them. There is nothing more that I would need to do? I worry about the balancing. Is there something more that I would need to do in order for these packs to work.
You should not have to balance the battery for quite some time
At what point would the battery need to be rebalanced?
@@dannyr6444 If at sometime in the future you would have to change out one or more bad modules.
When gen 2 batteries will be available ? and how we can get notifications when Batteries are available?
Just click the “get notified” link on the website.
Why not installing a PHEV LFP battery kit instead?
How many full cycles is this lithium polymer good for? And how many partial cycles are they good for in the Prius where they won't be cycled fully.
That is a great question for which I do not have data at this point. I would suggest emailing support@NexPowerEnergy.com for those specific questions.
@@TheHybridGuy my email got rejected because I put next instead of nex. I'll try resend.
Quick question; the NiMH BMS doesn’t have any battery balancing; the voltage sense harness only measures voltages. It works because NiMH charging efficiency falls at higher state of charge, and wastes charge as heat - meaning the car ‘overcharges’ the battery slightly if there is an imbalance. NiMH can tolerate this slow overcharging. How do the Lithium replacement cells manage this (especially as they can’t communicate with each other)?
They do with each block being controlled individually by its own micro processor
At 22:48 there are 14 modules instead of 28, so the BMS can balance these modules. ☮️
@@backwoodsbungalow9674 I'm not certain, though reads like each battery has their own BMS-Charge Controller-Under/Over Voltage protection? Is that correct?
I used a bunch of iPhone batteries
Can we put two batteries in the Car and plug it in for overnight charging?
@@Ruach_Isaiah.44-3 it doesn’t work like that
So this is the equivalent of an old tv shop channel😊
2010-2013? No 2015? What's different if it's the same Gen?
I'm really interested in this battery.
You should get it! It will work with your 2015. projectlithium.com/?ref=e9JRo
2014 and 15 should work just fine. They have the same amount of modules as the earlier editions of Gen 3 Prius.
How will this battery affect the inverter? That's actually the most expensive piece of equipment in the car.
Well, I can say that after years of use the inverter is completely fine. The BMS on the car knows how to control the voltage properly.
there are different kinds of upgrades. there is the cylindrical green and orange ones and there is the blocks from nexcell. can you tell me what if any difference they may have?
Cylindrical NiMH are junk in sheep’s clothing.
This is really helpful info! I'm strongly thinking of buying a used Prius V and converting it to a camping/party-mobile. Also as a electricity hub in case of physical disaster - it's basically a generator on wheels, so... 👍🏾
yes, and i am putting together a video right now on a V install but get your car updated ! projectlithium.com/?ref=e9JRo
I'm going to replace my battery pack with a nuclear power plant.
A pebble bed reactor might work for a power train sized up for a semi truck.
I would like to buy can’t find your site
I need to get this
I have a 2006 Prius can I upgrade to lithium? Need software upgrade? Or other parts ? How much cost if you are sale?
The conversion costs about $2200 if you DIY for that year of Prius.
I can’t believe how many of these comments you’ve replied to. like flies they are. 😅
I take the time to reply because I care. ☺️
Is it actually 4x the power? I am seeing lots of stuff on their site about 260A, not 400A. So this is only 2.6x the power/capacity?
This is actually a typo and I need to redo this video. It is indeed 2.6x the power BUT the version 2 which has not been released yet will be 4x the power .
If I use lithium battery of chr and use it in prius 3rd gen, will this work? Mind it that I'm from Karachi, Pakistan where its impossible to get your services. We have to get a used Japanese battery part only.
Hey I'm kenroy I need a Prius battery how can I get one to buy I'm in Jamaica
All Prius C batteries sold out? When will you get new one in?
How many volts is each block of the 14 ? Love to get this setup soon
Hi,
Would it be possible to get the 3D printing STL files for the empty case of these NiMH packs? Or just buy the empty cases and fit the batteries ourself?
Great one, lad. I must find any used Toyota Prius no matter what the price is. However, i must win millions of dollars in Ontario 49 as an option
Can you do a Chevy volt?
Woukd i be able to drive ev mode over 25 mph???? Also ty
Make video of upgrading a pack.
Wil do once we get another Prius to do videos on.
@@TheHybridGuy I’ll bring you mine. Lol.
@@joeandolino7191 buy the pack and ill help you with the swap. more packs available next month
Hello, Thank You for your channel.. I was wondering if I could Upgrade my Prius Prime battery 2017 To get more miles.
Nexpower is working on an upgrade now for your Prime. Stay tuned!! It is coming
Hello everybody where is can buy pack battery for my prius 3 from 2010 i stay in europ french country im technician for repair car
I'm skeptical. How can the HCM "know" how to condition, charge, and discharge Li-Poly? How can it command it to deliver and accept more current that the MGs were designed to accept and deliver with the Ni-Mh batteries? Put a different way, how can the HCM adjust to completely different parameters? Toyota engineers are pretty smart and I find it hard to believe that the car isn't going to know that something is out of spec with the battery pack, and either return a code or operate in a limp home mode. It makes no sense to me.
How much is the price for this new battery
Priced around $2200 for NEW material, not used, not refurbished, 100% new LiFePo4 battery modules.
@@TheHybridGuy what kind of warranty and for how many years? Can I instal it myself? I already replaced few cells and is working good.
@@tomaliza5884 Right now the warranty is 2 years unlimited miles. Nexpower is very good about taking care of the customer though. With replacing nickel modules and no balancing you are running on hopes and dreams. it could last, but chances are it won't and you are also not operating at peak efficiency.
Where can I go to get this installated? Where are you located?
It's pretty simple to do yourself, just takes some time.
Any plans to get more in stock... wow... I just looked a few days ago and there were at least some cells left. They're all sold out now! Man! Guessing they're lasting well too or people just want those cells for whatever they're doing. ;-) Let us know what your thought are when they'll be available again? Great to see a like for like, like cell swap.
Where can I write to you about getting a Lithium package for a Prius V 2015 delivered to Nevada
Pneilson@certifiedautoconsulting.com
Hello... I have 2010 and a 2014 prius. I would like 2 hybrid batteries please but your website says you're out of stock. Any help would be appreciated
They sell quickly. Check often
@@TheHybridGuy when is your next batch coming out?
i mean, the only thing i didnt hear mentioned , after showing all the advantages of this kit. the original battery has been known to last 10+ years, up to 15 years and still function. what is the life span of these batteries, the charge discharge cycles the battery is rated for is never listed. how much capacity will this battery have after 2 years, and 1000s of charge discharge cycles? whats are things looking like after 5 years with this battery? i mean there are actually some nice things about the oem battery chemistry not mentioned. i mean if i average 43 mpg on the oem battery, and spend 900 bucks on an oem remanufactured battery, it brings the car to oem specs, and that battery lasts for a good 5 years providing the oem performance during the 5 year duration, and it cost me about 900 bucks. now, i get this lithium battery, at a cost of 2100$ , yea it gets you 53 mpg now or better, so lets math it out. how much gas savings do you get, going from 43 mpg, to 53mpg on average? well there is a diminishing return unfortunately. i mean going from 10 mpg to 20 mpg is an amazing savings. going from 20 to 30 mpg, is a nice savings. going from 30 to 40, yea u still save, but its not as much as u think. and, going from 40 to 50 mpg, just saves u a little bit. point is, does the savings from 43 mpt, to 53 mpg justify the extra cost of the lithium battery? in 2 years time, u may show that u saved enough to justify it. now, what after 5 years? well the oem battery remains consistent , however , until you demonstrate the product after a duty cycle about equal to 5 years of charges and discharges , im betting after that period, the oem battery will be more consistent, with the lithium battery having lost some 30 to 40% of its capacity. if i have to buy a new lithium pack every 5 years, to maintain its performance, calculate savings on the better mpg, now compare an oem remanufactured battery, that still works great after 5 years at half the cost, hmm. well i think you should do the math your self. in the short term, i have no doubt the lithium battery is far superior. however for the long term, the oem battery will remain consistent for many more years i think over this battery, say after 5 years, in which case the oem battery would be a better value. i mean you wont know if you dont math it out your self, compare duty cycles of both types of batteries, and over a 5 year period, examine the true savings and costs of each battery.
These original LiFePo batteries are showing almost no degradation after 7 years of constant use.
The tech is incredibly promising which is why Toyota is looking into using it.
Hi there , is shipping to New Zealand an option? , shame @$1900 thats over half the cost of another car.and i bet shipping outside the USA would be anothe $300 USD😞
Hey! We can sure make this happen. Drop your order and we will get one coming to you. projectlithium.com/?ref=e9JRo
Just purchased a NexCell LiFePO4 upgrade for my Prius.
Do you know what the average life expectancy for this battery might be? I've heard that LiFePO4 batts can withstand many more charge/discharge cycles.
Thanks.
reliability is questionable and safety is even more. There is a reason why so many EV burndown because of using Li battery that is not tested.
Hi any idea when are you receive a new stock for 2010 PRIUS at regular price (2100) and how long to deliver to California thanks
Hi, do you ship to UK?
My prius is an ‘08. How
Do i get your LI unit?
Any packs for the Gen 1 Prius Plug-in 2012-2015 on the way ?
Is it possible to swap in new gen 4 prius Li-on battery cells into a 2012 gen 3 prius Ni-Mh battery pack ? would all the cells just swap over ?
No, it cannot work that way
I take it this will work on a 2011 Lexus CT200h?
Was only part way through the video... you do cover it'll work on the CT.
Thanks for all the info. Hopefully they come back into stock soon.
Any other companies you recommend that may offer this type of service?
Yes it will.
@@TheHybridGuy I went online to the website, says its out of stock. Any idea when it'll be available for the CT200H?
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As I said in my edit, I commented before I watched the whole thing.
Did you not read the whole comment?
how much does temp affect lithium over older tech battery? Can you adapt this battery to a standard gas minivan or van? If so is there a kit for that?
Lithium runs MUCH cooler so the venting needs not modification. These batteries are made specifically for the Toyota hybrids right now. projectlithium.com/?ref=e9JRo
THANKS
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What mods are required for a Gen 2 install. Please do a Gen 2 install video.
Install videos to come soon! No significant mods. Remove old modules and install new modules. That is it.
@@TheHybridGuy I've replaced individual cells in my old battery before. So these batteries on require 14 cells vs 28 of the old style,
@@monoshock57, basically they are replacing the "blocks" in your existing pack. Think of this as like 14 blocks which is how the Prius BSM reads the system anyway.
Hi! Can we do the same with nissan leaf? Thank you in advance.
You cant use this with Leaf unfortunately
When is the next batch for a 2G prius coming in? Sold out as of 12/13/21
Working on supply right now. First of the year is looking promising for more.
@@TheHybridGuy good to hear!
What you think about getting rid of the catalytic converters with your more advanced battery, that way Prius owner don’t have to keep looking over their shoulders about getting them stolen!
Ha! That is a thought for sure. But I choose to keep my converter protected.
Price for 2013 Japanese import Toyota Aqua (Prius C) and its shipment to Islamabad, Pakistan?
Do you have any of these ready to go for pick up in tricities?
cool! I have a 2008 that I purchased with 178k on it. It now has 219k, and still seems to be good! I am interested in upgrading at some point. I have a question, I want to convert my Prius into a camper. Could I add this lithium battery to the Nickel battery to get more total juice?
Sadly you cannot combine these technologies but I will say you will be so satisfied with the new Lithium version you will not worry about extended range. I will tell you that extended range has been done before on Gen 2 Prius but it never became commercially viable due to the cost of the additional pack.
BUT I do have something for you if you are looking to get into camping with your Prius check out plugoutpower.com and if you buy.. here is 5% off your order use code ‘9429’. I just bought one for my Prius.. Videos to come soon on how cool this thing is.
@@TheHybridGuy I wonder if the plug out power people have modified the inverter or if it's just stock. I've been using a midnight classic connected to my Prius high voltage battery with decent results.
@@lavatrip9344 I can tell you the plug out power unit is incredible and blows the socks off the Midnight Unit as far as versatility is concerned.
@@TheHybridGuy I was only able to pull around 2000 Watts from the Prius and send towards my 48 volt system before the midnight would error out. Sure I could have had to or three midnight classics but a functioning 4,000 watts from the plug power unit would be great. These inverters are only $600 on eBay.
Hi, just asking if you can help me with my 2013 Toyota Prius V or Alpha 7 seater here in New Zealand. The Lithium-Ion battery is located in the center console of the car. Is there a mesh for hybrid filter fan so I can clean it? Unfortunately I can't find one. Thanks in advance
I love it! but I live in Ecuador. I think you can improve the marqueting by sending the modules to Jehu Garcia and William Prowse. They have hundred of thousands of subs. great job.
Hey! Lets have a discussion about it.
@@TheHybridGuy How to contact you?
Have you ever shipped this to Europe ? just asking if it is OK (nederland)
Shipping to Europe is a thing! Follow the link buy the pack and send them your information.
You said the Prius Gen 2 pack would be available in October. It’s October. Website still shows out of stock. Any updates on availability?
They literally sold out in less than 12 hours.
Any idea when the next shipment will be?
If somebody reading this/watching this has replaced the batteries with these BETTER units, have you seen increased performance? I'm talking better acceleration, 0-60mph, etc. I have still to read feedback with objective performance numbers.
Thank you!
Hi! So performance increase is a yes. But not in the way you think.
Your battery can hold a higher load over a longer period of time. That means as you accelerate the battery will continue to provide stable power out put.
Your passing and climbing loads are also more stable as the battery doesn’t drop off like NiMH does (and especially on an older or reconditioned battery)
Your Prius will feel stronger and quicker. But by how much? I’ll need to make a video for that.
That is exciting. Checked the website. Anything for the 2006 Highlander Hybrid? It is the same as the Lexus 450h.
Not quite yet, still ramping up production at the moment. should be full scale in a few months
Thinking about buying this pack for my aging 2004 prius, But I live in sub 32 climate for 4 months of year. What does the battery pack do. when below 32 degrees
How does the new blades handle that, Do they not run till temp goes up, Please explain?
This battery has been tested in extreme cold with great results. Because it is not water based freezing isn’t likely. NIMH could freeze if voltage is too low and the electrolyte can freeze.
great if you can purchase the battery,they always sold out.
Hi there Hybrid guy, thank you for a detailed video.
Question please, I live in a hot country in which we have temperatures in excess of 30⁰C for 7-8 months a year.
I heard lithium doesn't fare well with hot climates. Could you please advise me thank you kindly
LIthium ION does not lithium iron phospate does which is what this battery is. The error that I have in the video is i kept saying ION and not LiFePo.
My 2013 prius BMS is design to manage and charge NiMH... how is it possible to simply replace it with LiFePO4? The chemistry and voltage isn't the same. This is exciting - do you ship to Australia?
Hi Andrew. The BMS is designed for NiMH you are right. However there are microchips that “fool” the BMS into working with this new battery. I’ve personally been using it for over a year and have had zero issues but increased fuel economy
One thing ive noticed.. the SOC is usually 60 to 65%...so it goes bad faster as its not fully charged and utilized.
after lithium changeover what will be the SOC? if its still 60-65% wudnt it be under used again.. and may eventually go bad soon😕
Excellent observation. With these packs, because they are internally regulated with their own computer chip they are allowed to charge up to 97% instead of the 70% that you see with NiMH. Over years of use they will go bad but so will NiMH. In that time frame you will get longer sustained and better MPG than you would with NiMH.
I'd love to do this. 2012 V. 179,000 miles. Battery degrading code. But, the has engine is also drinking oil like crazy. Not sure if a new engine and battery is worth it for this car. Although it is in beautiful shape inside and out and it's paid off. 🤔 Decisions.
Can I buy the car off of you? Once it starts consuming oil it’s time for an engine rebuild or swap.
@@TheHybridGuy It's my only vehicle right now. Hoping to get into a new Sienna in a year or so when finances are better. I had planned on keeping the V as a second vehicle, but I'm not sure if I will if I'll have to sink a bunch of money into it. What do you think it's worth in it's current condition?
@@watchandjewelryloft4713 tough to say without pictures. Send me an email at
pneilson@certifiedautoconsulting.com and let’s discuss further. Happy to pay top dollar if I can help out.
so is this pack better than the packs in the newer 2017 pruises that use lith packs... is it a lighter battery? with more power etc...i am a bit confused... i have many rc planes,boats cars etc so i understand the power of nickel and lith batteries... stopped using nickel batts years ago...thanks
Dunno why people can't read what's written everywhere about this upgrade. It's a Lithium Iron Phosphate battery and it's about 40 pounds lighter than the Nickel Metal Hydride original. Li-Fe-Po4 can withstand being 100% charged and discharged to near zero without damage, unlike NiMH and Li-Ion. Thus almost 100% of the capacity of the NexCell battery is usable, which is more capactity than the *usable* capacity of the NiMH original which is never allowed to charge over 90% or discharge to less than around 30%.
Having seen these on another video drive 5 miles / 8km on EV-only this is tempting to swap out even though I don't need to. It's annoying when the ICE kicks in all the time with the weak NiMH batteries....
Just do it! You will be happy you did.
Are these available now? The website says pre-order.
I have a 2015 CT200h, will this solution work on this car? Is there a location in Texas that will assist with the installation?
yes it will work with CT200h. Not sure of a place in Texas that can do the install. BUT if you are into taking a journey I would be happy to do an install for you. But we are about 40 hours apart drive time.
Does it balance at the cell level by having a voltage sensor and resistor on every cell in the module? I would assume since there's no extra wiring that it's doing a top balance instead of bottom?
Each module is controlled by its own monitor system that integrates seamlessly with the BMS.
how much price for Camry 2009
When will more Gen 2 Prius Lithium battery packs be coming? I just got my 2008 and really want to change it Lithium!
Order it now! projectlithium.com/?ref=e9JRo
@@TheHybridGuy It says it's sold out. I click on Buy It Now, and it says Transaction Failed.
@@jamesholdener7625 more will be available on October. Just found out. Sorry!
@@TheHybridGuy I signed up for the newsletter and for an account, so hopefully I'll see when they come in and can get it before the end of November when I do a road trip to the West Coast. Thanks!
hello... what prius does this work in??? 2005? 2006? 2007? etc? thanks
I have camry hybrid 2011, Can we change it to plug-in somehow under 5k usd?
Will you be making one for the Toyota Avalon hybrid?
Yes more will come.
Does this work with a 2012 Prius Plug In? It it does, will I get longer range after a full charge? And, do you make a pack for the Lexus RX hybrids? Thanks.
Lexus RX is coming soon does not work for Prius plug in.