Vanhal was a bohemian composer. he lived mainly in Italy and Austrria, and was one of the first compoosers to earn his life independently from a court or a protector. He was greatly influenced by the so-called Mannheim court. In his outmpput, we may note several symphonies in minor mode. He was fully aware of the dramatic affects which could be got from an orchestra in a minor key. This is a good example
Alex Opinions are fine in a comments section like this; presenting them as facts is more problematic. Vanhal wrote some fantastic symphonies, an area where Mozart was not always at his most inspired - at least until he moved to Vienna. However, nothing in Vanhal gets anywhere near Mozart’s last six symphonies, nor some of the others, nor a huge number of Haydn’s works in this form. Enjoy Vanhal on his own terms, he is well worth listening to; it is better though, not to try to make comparisons that will not be to his advantage.
John Galt I didn’t actually say that Mozart was ‘...the greatest of all time’, nor did I imply it. What I clearly stated was that Vanhal didn’t get anywhere near the last six symphonies of Mozart - that’s not really controversial. The pace you mention comes largely from the very particular ‘sturm und drang’ style of this symphony, a style in which Mozart made only one attempt in 1773 with his Haydn/Vanhal/JC Bach aware Symphony 25 in g minor (K183). When set beside a number of Haydn’s symphonies in this style eg Symphonies 26, 44, 45, and 49, Vanhal’s works which compare well with his other contemporaries, reveal more clearly his shortcomings. You’re right about the originality and indeed daring of Rameau who is a very great French Baroque composer. WF Bach - possibly the most unfulfilled potential of any composer I know. Kraus - enormous latent ability cut short by a lifespan almost identical to Mozart, and labelled ‘...the first genius I ever met’ by Haydn when Kraus visited him at Eszterhaza in 1783. They are all worth listening to. I also agree heartily; wine and music are great partners!
I’ll be conducting this symphony in New York in April. Can’t wait :)
The melodies from 2:54 to 3:35 must be 'ROCKING' Like Hell! Just Do It!!!
Jan Křtitel Vaňhal was born in Nechanice, village near Hradec Králové in East part of Bohemia in Czech Republic.
Vanhal was a bohemian composer. he lived mainly in Italy and Austrria,
and was one of the first compoosers to earn his life independently from a
court or a protector. He was greatly influenced by the so-called
Mannheim court. In his outmpput, we may note several symphonies in minor
mode. He was fully aware of the dramatic affects which could be got
from an orchestra in a minor key. This is a good example
@Angelo Brecken
Please stop that game otherwise I will ask to RUclips to ban you
...that is actually a bloody damn hell of a symphony!
Drop dead wonderful Sturm und Drang and the always great Concerto Koln to do it full justice!
アップテンポと美しい旋律が心地よさを誘いますネ。👍🥰🤩‼️
WONDERFUL !!!! I'M LOVING THESE WORKS !!!!
GREAT PERFORMANCE !!!!!
Great composer Symphonies in G and D are best from all symphonies. he has to be in the List of greatest composers of all times
Great composer!
Una obra musical que se escucha con simpatía.
Pedro L. Grijalba - Lima - Perú
Beautiful!!! Thank you very much! Krása!!! Díky!
Wonderful. I just got from Amazon the whole pack...
very interesting discovery. thank you for uploding this piece.
Brilliant as good as Mozart
Alex
Opinions are fine in a comments section like this; presenting them as facts is more problematic.
Vanhal wrote some fantastic symphonies, an area where Mozart was not always at his most inspired - at least until he moved to Vienna.
However, nothing in Vanhal gets anywhere near Mozart’s last six symphonies, nor some of the others, nor a huge number of Haydn’s works in this form.
Enjoy Vanhal on his own terms, he is well worth listening to; it is better though, not to try to make comparisons that will not be to his advantage.
John Galt
I didn’t actually say that Mozart was ‘...the greatest of all time’, nor did I imply it.
What I clearly stated was that Vanhal didn’t get anywhere near the last six symphonies of Mozart - that’s not really controversial.
The pace you mention comes largely from the very particular ‘sturm und drang’ style of this symphony, a style in which Mozart made only one attempt in 1773 with his Haydn/Vanhal/JC Bach aware Symphony 25 in g minor (K183).
When set beside a number of Haydn’s symphonies in this style eg Symphonies 26, 44, 45, and 49, Vanhal’s works which compare well with his other contemporaries, reveal more clearly his shortcomings.
You’re right about the originality and indeed daring of Rameau who is a very great French Baroque composer.
WF Bach - possibly the most unfulfilled potential of any composer I know.
Kraus - enormous latent ability cut short by a lifespan almost identical to Mozart, and labelled ‘...the first genius I ever met’ by Haydn when Kraus visited him at Eszterhaza in 1783.
They are all worth listening to.
I also agree heartily; wine and music are great partners!
Maybe as good as Mozart at age 17-but not as good as Mozart after 1785
Are you joking?
Amazing
Thank you for sharing this, harpsichordVal
danke!!
Brilliant stuff
One of Vanhall's many amazing symphonies
Beauty.
#OdedFriedGaon #OdedMusic
What a din
From 2:54 to 3:35 melodies rocking like hell!
@@RaineriHakkarainen Yes. A din. Sturm und drang was a mediocre fashion at the time