How Strong Is Gear 5 Luffy? || Full Progression To Emperor Status
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►Timestamps are below:
00:00 - Introduction
01:06 -AP Vs DC
05:17 - Childhood to Orange Town (City Block Level)
07:41 - Baratie & Arlong Park (Perspective)
09:20 - Alabasta (Town Level)
14:23 - Skypeia (City Level)
15:05 - Water 7/Enies Lobby Douriki Explained (Perspective)
19:51 - Water 7/Enies Lobby (Mountain Level)
29:07 - Thriller Bark (Island Level)
30:44 - 2 years Of Training (Perspective)
33:09 - Fishman Island (Country to Continental Level)
45:56 - Punk Hazard (Perspective)
48:16 - Dressrosa (Multi-Continental)
58:33 - Whole Cake Island (Perspective)
1:02:42 - Wano: Advanced Armament Haki (Moon Level)
1:06:52 - Wano: Crude Conquerors Infusion (Small Planet to Planet Level)
1:09:30 - Wano: Emperors Conquerors Infusion (Large Planet Level)
1:12:39 - Wano: Gear 5/Awakening (????????????)
1:16:45 - What If Scenario: No Gear 4
1:17:48 - Speed Review
1:21:09 - Conclusion
This Thread will Address concerns that I see in the comments section
Concern 1: Was Crude Conquerors to Emperors Conquerors Really A Reset?
Now I’ve seen a couple comments saying they find it “hard to believe” or that they “disagree” that crude to emperors was a complete reset. Now I thought the FACTS of the case were clearly depicted in the video with the panels and the dialogue. However, being that I’m seeing these comments, let us quickly Review these FACTS that were shown:
1:The level of a Base crude conquerors clash was clearly shown in the video to not be sky splitting level or anywhere remotely close to it.
2: A Gear 4 crude conquerors clash was never shown on screen. However, luffy would've Obviously used crude conquerors gear 4 against kaido, but you'll note that we can be sure that the sky was NEVER split before chapter 1026 because in chapter 1026 momo and yamato were VISIBLY surprised by base emperors luffy and kaido clash now splitting the sky something that could never have been missed by anyone on the battlefield.
3. Also remember after kaido destroyed crude conquerors luffy who again would have obviously used gear 4 during their fight, kaido literally says that luffy’s use of conquerors was still “crude and clumsy”. Now ask yourself if gear 4 crude conquerors was shown to kaido to be “sky splitting level” something that LITERALLY defines EMPERORS LEVEL (and above) USAGE, which was again even highlighted by yamato and momo when they saw it by comparing it to roger and whitebeard, would kaido still be calling EMPEROR LEVEL gear 4 conqeurors luffy “crude and unrefined”? Hopefully you can appreciate that literally makes no sense
4: and after Luffy comes back after the loss and splits the sky at base level, Something which remember up this point we know he has NEVER been shown to be able to do by oda or even anything remotely close to it (see crude clash vs emperors clash comparison pic which was shown), after this emperors level sky splitting clash, kaido who before this was calling luffy’s use “crude and unrefined”, kaido now says to luffy that he’s “acknowledged his [luffy’s] strength” and and says he “can’t remember the last time that someone has been able to challenge him seriously” (obviously crude conquerors gear 4 wasn’t able to challenge him seriously as the new emperors luffy is doing if he’s saying that now when before he was calling luffy “crude and clumsy”)
These are the facts of the case that were clearly presented by THE MANGA ITSELF. I honestly thought this was one of the least controversial point in the video, that is why I didn't go so in detail. But anyway Personal incredulity does not change these facts. So yes it was a complete reset based on the evidence presented by the manga
I was going to leave a counter argument as to whether or not Luffy could even mix his crude Conqueror’s form and gear 4 if he wanted to, as both techniques draw heavily on Luffy’s stamina and inferring that he could just do this off the bat might come across as a reach.
Having thought back to Luffy getting gear 5 though, it was made pretty apparent in the manga that despite just having gotten this new gear that draws even more heavily on endurance Luffy could still stack conqueror’s on top of it, so in retrospect that would lend more credence to Luffy stacking his crude conqueror’s on gear 4. It’s still not scaling I would personally subscribe to, but I don’t have as much of an issue with the jump in power.
Hopefully you’re not trying to say that “luffy can’t use conquerors while in gear 4” with this comment. Because evidently that would be insane
All excellent points I don't know how people don't realize that there was a clear increase in power and skill from Luffy after he was knocked off Onigaishima. It's either poor reading comprehension or poor short term memory. People are probably too distracted by Buggy becoming a Yonkou to remember events clearly.
@@Steinixos he was saying that but then realized how stupid that thought process is because he can use conqueror's in gear five so why wouldn't he in gear 4?
So this entire reasoning is based off the assumption luffy used gear forth off screen? Because if it is there is nothing saying he did, yes it’s mostly likely he did use gear forth but how do you know. Like would he even have enough energy to use gear fourth. Assumptions cannot be taking as fact.
i like how he was underscalling so badly yet is still so strong
Exactly
FRRR HE KEPT DOWNPLAYING LUFFY AND IN THE END, LUFFY WAS STILL INCREDIBLY STRONG
You are the only one piece powerscaler that makes any sense to me, love all your videos. I have been waiting for someone to make proper sense of one piece for literal years. Keep doing what your doing, you deserve way more views, and without a doubt you'll get them
Thanks so much
Must be bc it doesn’t take a brain to calc stack 😭 it’s 3rd grade multiplication
@@sbthesage2100 i wanna see a Gear 5 Luffy scale without calc stacking
@@justtex_9141 his gear 5 big punch that beat kaido was calced at 2x10 to the 26 joules which is multi Continental and he should be in the Ligjy speed range
What is the multiper for gear 5 transformation
First four minutes in, and this guy explained what I’ve been missing in power-scaling discussions for years.
Well done!
Hes basically seth but for one piece
@@Shadow-fb2ec nah he's way better than seth, seth doesn't interpret a lot of things in naruto properly, necessary a lot of people think naruto when fighting kaguya was planetary, but this man here debunked all the misinformation
@@akadenanderson3283 he debunked it poorly and sety understands all the arguments for every level of naruto if you think he's so bad then debate him oh wait you can't cus he retired after years of destroying kids
@@Shadow-fb2ec huh but how did he debunk it poorly?? Seth is the same person who said that the Raikage is light speed, but in the data books it literally says that at his best he moves almost the speed of light
Seth said naruto is planetary because he always uses the exaggerated headlines, there in nothing in the manga that indicates that kurama is planetary. But with context later on naruto in boruto was planetary.
@@Shadow-fb2ec he's lucky that he retired because there are a lot more information and rethinking taking place now, seth isn't bad, it's just that he misunderstood a lot of things, like the teleportation cannon too, he made so much people believe that it can destroy the moon, but in actuality it can only teleport it smh
Even hapi is rethinking a lot of things too, especially for one piece
You are much better at explaining then some other "famous" power scalers. I can hear you perfect. Great explaination
Ok. To start things off I like the detail you go into in the Introduction. Finally clarifying the Hierarchy of Luffy’s moves/attacks. I always love it when you clarify attack potency because you break in down in such a simple and easy to understand manner for people who may have never heard of the concept. Thats one of the hardest things to get across in debates about One Piece because people underrate it due to it not having enough explosions for their liking. Glad you brought up the Bon Clay moment. I mentioned in in one of your previous videos but it’s something I rarely see discussed in regards to attack potency. Using Kaido as an example was brilliant as well.
In regards to the Chinjao downplay I often bring up that Luffy’s jet pistol that one-shottted a pacifista did nothing to him in his old age(Chapter 708). This is more evidence of the continent being many times more durable than a pacifista due to the fact that old Chinjao was taking Pacifista shattering blows tot he skull without damage but young Chinjao with his cone dome removed struck the continent until his head was bloody and couldn’t even leave a scratch. Basically Young Chinjao’s head >>>>> old Chinjao’s head >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pacifista Steel(already many times more durable than regular steel).
You also neglected to mention an extra detail in regards to the Alabasta size scaling. In real life the Nile River in Africa is only about 2-3km across. Yet is still clearly visible on a map of Africa. What makes Alabasta comparable in size or larger is the fact that their river is 30km across much bigger than the Nile yet despite being far larger still looks far smaller on the map when viewed from above. Meaning Alabasta would have to be atleast larger than Africa. Yet Alabasta is not considered a Continent in the One Piece world. Thus the Continent Chinjao broke in half would have to be significantly larger if something the size of Africa doesn’t even count as a Continent in their world.
Another frequently neglected feat is The Nightmare of Baldimore(Chapter 592). Franky survives a massive mountain level mushroom cloud explosion. Now he didn’t necessarily tank it with no damage, but he still survives it. Given how easily Rob Lucci was able to handle Franky I think this supports Lucci and preskip G3 Luffy being around mountain level. It’s also a good argument for post skip Luffy’s regular jet pistols easily being mountain level since a Pacifista is >>>>>>>>> preskip Franky.
Ok I have a lot of stuff I want to say about G5. I have so many thoughts on the potential of this power that I don’t even know where to begin. But to start, it’s important to stress that we DO NOT know the full capacity of Luffy’s Awakening. Thats something I see a lot of people not understanding. I know Luffy calls this his peak but that DOESN’T mean we’ve seen all of it’s applications. I know this is hard for some people to understand but just because we “saw a character fight” doesn’t mean we know or understand the full capacity of their abilities. We may get how their powers work but this doesn’t mean we’ve seen how deep their bag of tricks can really go. Like for example who here thought that Law had Awakening just from the Doflamingo fight? If we take that encounter in isolation does it give any hints of the abilities we see Law use later? NO. Which is why you shouldn’t just assume from seeing one fight that you know everything a character is capable of. Luffy JUST GOT his Awakening. He clearly hasn’t even begun to master it yet. So why on earth would anyone think we’ve seen all there is to see from the ability? I saw people assuming the same about Big Mom at multiple points in the story but as the story went on she just kept pulling out more and more tricks during her fights and surprising the readers. So don’t make the same mistake with Luffy.
I guarantee theres more craziness to come from G5. Though I don’t think people understand the full implications of everything we’ve seen. I don’t think people understand the true magnitude of a power like size manipulation. I don’t think people understand that Luffy is NOT blowing air into his limbs anymore. He’s literally just expanding and increasing his mass. Those are no longer air filled fists it’s just pure massive rubber flesh. Meaning it’s ona completely different level to any previous G3 styled attack. Not to mention, we have not seen just how large Luffy can grow in G5. This is him testing out the ability and randomly trying new stuff. The size of the Bajrang Gun alone implies that Luffy himself can reach a gigantic form on that kind of scale. If he can do it with one hand he can do it with his whole body. Now think about all the abilities and techniques he can use at that size. Insanity.
Theres another thing I don’t think people get the potential of and it’s Luffy apparent ability to even affect energy with his Awakening. With Kaido’s boro blast Luffy shouldn’t have been able to bounce it back according to normal physics because energy simply doesn’t work like that. This means that Luffy can manipulate both matter & energy by overwriting their physics with his own. Meaning that energy blasts can be turned into rubber and not just bounced back but he now has to capacity to do whatever he wants with them. He can take an energy beam and turn it into a balloon animal. Stretch an opponents attack like a rubber band and snap it into space. Projectile attacks of all kinds are now utterly useless against him.
God forbid all the Monkey God Hanuman theories come true because then we’d have Luffy grabbing the Sun or stretching time and space.
Alright thats all I wanted to say. This was another fantastic video man. You only continue to amaze me with how well detailed and well reasoned all of your videos & arguments are. Best One Piece scaler in the community bar none.
Exactly. I am glad that someone else acknowledges the implications of Luffy being able to essentially change the properties of energy based attacks. Also, you hit the nail on the coffin with the ice continent’s size. Alabasta is a part of an island and isn’t even considered a continent in the world of One Piece, meaning that the ice continent must be massive.
Very well put. I definitely saw your comment about bon clay. Thanks for bringing it to my attention
And yeah luffy’s awakening comes with so many possibilities. And as he masters it in upcoming arcs like elbaf it can only get stronger. I was thinking of suggesting a baseline multiplier for Bajrang gun being that it is literally the island size of version of over kong gun. But I decided to just leave gear 5 vague for now to avoid certain pointless arguments
And also yeah the bolo breath reflection is pretty wild. You are entirely correct in pointing out that it shouldn’t be possible if it were still just flames. He had to manipulate not only the ground but also the bolo breath itself.
@@Steinixos Exactly. I neglected to add that him manipulating energy is flat out confirmed when we see him bouncing off of lightning bolts like they were rubber. So thats another example to use if it ever gets brought up.
@@emperorluffy6001 Yeah I have been thinking about that for a while now. At first I was thinking it was not necessarily gear 5 manipulation of the lightning itself being that he was already able to interact with lightning from skypeia (like kicking it). But On review of the panels it does seem as if this occasion was gear 5 specific manipulation being that he was literally sinking his thumbs into the lighting as if it were rubber. So it seems clear he's was not just interacting with it but rather he changed its properties.
Dude no shot you just typed 2 and 1/2 pages of a book 👏..👏..👏 well done
Now this is somebody who does their math, uses logic instead of feelings, does proper analyzing of every important statement and feat that correlates, using lowball ends of calculations so no one who wants Luffy to be as weak as he possible, can Realistically complain about the end-result, collaborating everything from Vivre card, SBS, visual clues, statements and on-screen fights, and making connections like it's a Murder-board. This is masterclass of powerscaling leaving extremely little room for debunking. Phenomenal work.
The sad part is even with all these official sources, people still say it's all hyperbole. Meanwhile, selectively scale characters from other series through guidebooks but it's forbidden to do the same. I think we can agree that none of these anime properly portray light speed, but One Piece is the only verse where people bring real life physics to downplay them. No one doubts Goku, Naruto, and Ichigo can move faster than light(Not downplaying, they can all do that obviously), but the moment a One Piece character moves faster than light, suddenly the same people who accept those other series as ftl start talking about scientific facts that only apply to our world.
buggy ball: destroys village
luffys kick: destroys 2 buggy balls
finally, a power scaler that actually takes into account all details and logical assumptions, you got a sub man
Exactly
Great video as always! It is amazing how much you have to downplay in order to appease the skeptics and it STILL reaches Large Planet lvl. One Piece is by far the most downplayed verse, but I am glad to find someone who can properly scale everything.
I'm so glad I found a good one piece powerscaler. It's very rare. Thank you for your work! Keep it up!
Wow! Thank you for making this video! I appreciate that you started with Buggy and ended with Kaido. It made it a lot easier to see Luffy's progression in terms of physical strength. It even opened my eyes to other characters in the series.
The fact that Steinixos' power scaling during Dressrosa and Gear 4, even with the underestimations, was able to reach the Continental to Multicontinental+ range is pretty cool. It supports the fact that at that point of the story, Luffy was indeed Continental to Multicontinental+ in AP even if you excluded the Chinjao feat. The corroboration of the Chinjao feat with the calcs starting from the beginning is cool. Now if Luffy's limit for gigantification is truly insane, there is a chance that a super massive Bajrang gun could have Planetary destructive capability not only in AP.
Now I'm certain Kaido could break Madara's Perfect Susano'o or the Truth Seeking Orbs. If Tsunade can crack an incomplete Susano'o with her strength and even if we gave the Perfect Susano'o a 1000x durability buff compared to the incomplete version, Kaido who is definitely superior in strength could demolish a Susano'o. Same could be said for the TSO which definitely has a higher durability considering it was the preferred defense of the 6 Paths characters. If Eight Gates Might Guy could break through TSO using Madara's body as a buffer, then Kaido with Haki could break it as well.
madara when the big horned man brings out a comically large bagua and destroys his insanely powerful spiritual armor through sheer fucking willpower and strength
Kaido would be like 8 gates guy without a time limit, madara would be violated.
@@BaconNCerealthat's too weak, sanji in base is stronger than 8th gate. 8th gate guy was finally strong enough to sky walk, while sanji casually sky walking since the beginning of post time skip
Tso cannot break wtf you even yapping Lmfao 😂
Also Madara claps Kaido High diff
@@akadenanderson3283Most delusional statement I've ever heard LMFAO
Sanji ain't stronge than Guy
This vid purely just states fact and explain’s in way even a toddler can understand how strong luffy is. I use to think luffy was at most multi-continental but watching this vid has shown otherwise and you literally can’t refute the claims when the claims make sense and use a reliable source. Absolutely amazing vid, this should way way way more views than 4k ad you deserve way more sub.
Wait people thought gear 5 Luffy could only destroy an island? Lmfao gear 4 Luffy pretty much did that in his fight with Doflamingo
This is an amazing video it was so well detailed and explained that it was worth the wait.
Thanks so much. Took me quite a while to make
This was very well done! I really appreciate it.
I honestly thought power was limited to destructive capacity until I realised due to this explanation how dense the power generated by Luffy is and would heavily undermine his strength to use destructive capacity as a scaling for Luffy.
Rewatching this video made me appreciate it more. Not only is it thorough, it also closely tracks the manga at multiple points:
1. Luffy punching Crocodile through the bedrock created a small city-wide earthquake in Alubarna that even knocked down buildings. I think Steinixos' estimation of Luffy's town-level attack potency is in the right range (14:17).
2. Moria's shadows asgard was able to break thriller bark with its attacks. The gear 2 + gear 3 combination would have around the same potency for taking Moria down. Steinixos arrives at this island level potency independently! (30:19)
3. Same thing happens again with a lot of continent level attack potencies in the Dressrosa arc. Steinixos again arrives at something that is consistent with the manga.
4. The One Piece planet is lot bigger than earth. Whitebeard was said to be capable of destroying it. The emperors fought Whitebeard over territories as mentioned by Law. To fight on par with large planet level quake attacks, the emperors going all out must also have planet level or large planet level attack potency. Steinixos' analysis gives emperor Luffy large planet level attack potency at his max (1:11:11). This make so much sense!
Love these videos man, have been binge watching your videos sinces yesterday (20/07/2022). Really high quality content, very informative and very fun to watch, keep up the good work! 🔥
Alright I am grabbing a popcorn. Thanks for the video man
you make the best points for luffy's feats on youtube love it^^
3:25 Completely agree with you. I just want to add something.
They were fighting on the skull of an ancient beast (most likely a gigantic continent puller). The skull definitely has to be much more durable than the ground of Dressrosa.
That was his whole point, AP≠DC
Love your explanations, I don't know how it is possible that you have not pass 10k with this type of high quality content.
I think he should make shorts for more subscribers .
great video, all legit feats and calcs to match. hope more people watch this
What a great video I’m glad u took your time wirh everything
Great video bro, makes me realise how much these characters are downplayed when compared to other verses
If current manga Luffy punches Naruto,
Naruto would die.
But people think a rasenshuriken can kill Luffy since it destroys at a cellular level.
If Pain can dodge it, so can Luffy, a man who can see in the future while fighting in the present with Raditz Saga Goku strength.
@@OmnipotentSaiyan i would say og dragon ball king piccolo levels of strength being GENEROUS, simply put roshi can destroy a moon in the fight with kid goku and king piccolo is stronger.
@@OmnipotentSaiyan Naruto smokes Luffy
@@ShiroYasha702 no. He still wins extremely high diff
@@r.a.s6410 no. Naruto smokes Luffy
based on my understanding on Gear 5th:
1. he is able to freely manipulate both his surroundings (as he grabs dirt to deflect blast breath), can affect living beings (seeing as he inflated inside Kaido), and freely manipulates elements maybe (so far only grabs lightning so could be biased)
2. absurd vitality and durability and can tank haki based attacks
3. achieves said form went he is truly free (whatever that means)
4. manipulate his body to absurd things (freely changes his own size, his body without the how gear 3 works (maybe))
5. absurd no logic comes whatsoever as he is capable of running in air, and cartoon like ability gags (like eyes Poppin out)
6. affects his personality to show joy and laughter even if luck isn't on his side (truly as cheerful and shines bright like the sun)
these videos are always the best you just provide so much evidence
Your videos are unbiased I love them. New sub❤🇿🇦
About the advanced conqueror's haki multiplier:
In chapter 969, the narrator says Oden returned to Wano many times stronger than when he left. Oden already knew Ryuo before leaving as strong samurai of wano like Hyogoro know it. But Oden did not know about conqueror's coating as he was surprised by Roger's and Whitebeard's clash. The thing that Oden learnt outside of Wano was conqueror's coating that later allowed him to scar Kaido. So we can assume advanced conqueror's haki makes you "many times stronger". It would be safe to assume a 3x multiplier for advanced conqueror's haki.
Interesting
You are a great one piece powerscaler your scale makes to much sense to me that I had to share it with others.
You sir are my favorite person to watch I'm glad I found ur channel. I definitely liked subbed n turned on the bell 🔔 😃
The ac and dc argument is a perfect example for the kid and law final attack lmao people think just because law
shockwaves attack bypasses the skin and created a crater in the ground that kid and laws final attack weren’t relative laws attack is just law extending the blade with everything he has to the point where he pushes his blade all the way to the ground it’s not the actually sword destroying the floor but the shockwave hitting the floor and kid is head on concentrated attack that just attacks the body when the two attacks landed they had similar effects kid pushing bigmom all the way down to the bombs
Love the power scaling in this video more people need to see this!
All this was so well explained and awesome you should really consider starting a shorts channel too, also I wanted to add all of this is the result of only just making gear 3 0.1 stronger than gear 2 which is absurdly low so I can not imagine gear 5 real strength
Lets fucking goooo
@ALEX NMASHIE now you know
Amazing video🤗
Sheesh! Everybody catching me off guard with all the One Piece videos today. I'm not ready for this!
Lol yeah man. Really interested to hear what you have to say about this one
And I wanted to pin whatever comment you wrote after you get the chance to watch it. But I’m already seeing weird stuff in the comment section so I’ve already had to start a thread. Seems I need to to make my videos 10 hours to cover every single possible concern
@@Steinixos Sorry it took so long but I finally got to watch your video and it was amazing.
Yeah I get that. Sometimes you think something is so obvious that you don't have to explain but then you realize some people aren't even on the same planet and are confused by basic stuff lol. It's really frustrating.
Hope you enjoy my long rant. I skipped over mentioning some stuff because it was getting too long but hopefully you find my points useful regardless.
god I love this channel, keep up the good work man:)
Awesome video glad i discovered this channel the OP fanbase really needed a powerscaler a powerscaler that makes sense
Could you do a how strong is kaido video
Definitely worth the wait still not at gear 5 but been an amazing video and great evidence and reasoning even while downplaying(made it gear 5 and can’t wait till we get more feats for gear 5 if you were to try to estimate from what we have seen so far is he multi plant level?)
i watched the full video off my xbox and very much enjoyed it u broke down evrey thing for people who dont under stand power scaling and said it very clear . and the explinations for the dumb arguments to down play luffy where a great add. 10 out of 10 video
Amazing powerscaling video as always! It's so great to see Luffy finally get the respect he deserves when being powerscaled.
If I could add something regarding Gear 4's multiplier, I definitely think that the Giant Jet Shell would need to be addressed since it wouldn't make sense for Luffy to use Gear 4 assuming it's only 4x stronger than Gear 3, when Giant Jet Shell is 10x. That being said, I think that Gear 4 is more like the post-timeskip version of Giant Jet Shell's Gear 2/3 combo, with extra flair. Lemme explain.
The strongest attacks that Doffy saw from Luffy were Gear 3, not Giant Jet Shell. This means that Doffy wouldn't know what a Gear 2/3 combo looks like, so the "limit" he's referring to is clearly Gear 3. Additionally, the One Piece Yellow databook states that Gear 3 is Luffy's limit, not Giant Jet Shell. However, a 4x multiplier doesn't do Gear 4 justice based on a few things.
For one, Gear 4 is clearly faster than Gear 2 by a significant margin. It managed to speed blitz Doflamingo at least once, while Gear 2 could only keep up with him. This would mean that Gear 4 increases speed as well as power, similar to Gear 2. In fact, Gear 4's activation and Gear 2's first use in Enies Lobby mirror each other quite well, with both Blueno and Doffy getting blitzed and being unable to do meaningful damage to Luffy. And since Luffy blitzed Blueno by going 10x faster, it's not out of the realm of possibility that Gear 4 is also 10x faster than Gear 2. And just to back this up a bit more, the original kanji in the raw manga reads "manyfold" (何倍も), not "several" (複数), meaning the Gear 4 Amp is at least 4. But since several usually means 3 to 9, that means it's more likely that Gear 4 is actually a 10x amp to Gear 3. Making Gear 4's total multiplier to Base Luffy x110. Exactly equal to Giant Jet Shell.
Gear 4 also has some aesthetic similarities to both Gears 2 and 3. The most obvious one is Luffy inflating his muscles instead of his bones by blowing into it. There's also a white vapor effect on Gear 4 that's very similar to Gear 2's; and for those who say it's just the air that Luffy used to inflate himself, said air literally rises from and wraps around himself when in this form. Just like Gear 2. But Gear 4 also one-ups Giant Jet Shell with its increased elasticity, letting Luffy coil in his arm to get stronger punches. So that's most likely why Luffy doesn't just combo Gears 2 and 3 now. Based on that alone, Gear 4 might be stronger that Giant Jet Shell, but it's more likely that both techniques are equal instead. So, to summarize, Gear 4 being 110x is more supported than it being 330x based on context alone.
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I don’t necessarily think Oda scales things like this but I appreciate the logic and work done. Great video.
In scaling nobody honestly cares how author sees it cause matter of fact the ones who don't care at all are generally the author.
As you said, oda prolly considers luffy power according to his wish.
Yea Oda probably wouldn’t even have thought Luffy could be planetary with calcs
Exactly, even the anime I wonder why they haven't destroyed the world yet or are they even in a normal environment/10x bigger than our world.
For The Longest Time, I’ve Been Saying That Whole Cake Island Luffy Was Multicontinental At His Strongest. I Didn’t Start Spiking Luffy Higher Than That Until He Started Going Back And Forth With Kaido In Base Form, And That’s When I Said Luffy’s Base Was Multicontinental+. When I Saw Gear 5th Luffy’s Fist Become The Size Of An Island, I Just Knew Luffy Had To Be In The Moon Level Range.
Seeing This Video Makes Me Feel Not So Crazy For Thinking That And I Guess That Just Goes To Show How Much Society Can Really Impact How You Feel About Certain Things. Because When I Saw That You Scaled Luffy To Small Planet Level, I Was Completely Taken Aback Lol. Even When I’m Not Wanking, One Piece Downplayers Will Still Say I’m Wanking Because One Piece Doesn’t Have Big Exploding Energy Attacks💯🤦🏾♂️
Also, Great Video. Very Entertaining
hes continental level
Luffy didn’t go through 3 resets and unlocked a new gear for you to still be calling him continental.
why is EVERY WORD CAPITAL
What’s a rasengan gonna do to an ISLAND sized fist 😂😂
@@BaconNCereal🤓
Love your videos, while I think current one piece caps at multi continental the things you bring up really highlight the strength of pre timeskip and early post skip perfectly.
I'm a little late but IM SO HYPED TO KNOW HOW STRONG HE IS!
That some top tier scaling work damn
i was quite literally just convinced that luffy is planet level
Is he?
@@JSL.Clips65Either give credit to all these silly ass calcs or none. He's literally low balling and still reaching these numbers
@@JSL.Clips65 In Attack potency, yes, in Destructive capacity, no.
Can Luffy actually destroy a planet? No he cant, but you can still have Planetary level AP without being able to do that.
In Dragonball, if you can tank a Ki-blast that can destroy a planet, with minor damage, you have Planetary level Durability, So Luffys strongest attacks would be tankable with minor damage by a character with Planetary level Durability.
Luffys strongest attack would deal the same amount of damage to a person with Planetary level durability, as a Ki blast that has the exact necessary power needed to destroy a planet.
Great videos! Keep up the good work. Cant wait till the naruto plus sauske vs luffy and zoro.
Excellent video! Love the scaling here. However, there's one thing I'd like to add.
Wano reset 1 Luffy actually DOES have quantifiable scaling! This is because in their first encounter, Kaido actually one shots Gear 4 Luffy. To one shot someone you need to have an AP of at least around 7 times their durability. So I think it's reasonable to assume that after Reset 1, he's at least 7 times stronger than previously.
@Abbas Alqattan low planet lvl
Ahhh yes my favorite anime youruber is here
Perfection, i just watched the whole video
Glad to hear that you liked it
I would say this is the most accurate scaling. I am not finished with the vid but it is very good. You earned a sub.
I wish you could have talked about the possibility of Douriki being a logarithmic scale, where small unit increments make a massive difference for lower values, but higher values are closer. A linear scale doesn’t sit right with me, as it would make Blueno relative to 80 average people despite the fact that Luffy casually killed about 500 people right before his mid difficulty fight with Blueno. An exponential scale doesn’t seem correct either, as Kumadori nearly killed Chopper, thereby making Chopper several orders of magnitude weaker than Usopp/Nami.
Bro I’m dying of laughter here… “just apply 700+ chapters of context” 51:35 the way you said this casually broke me and I don’t know why. I’m loving your video so far btw, finally someone is powerscaling One Piece chars correctly. Ima finish the video now.
Okay this is the best one piece power scale video I’ve ever seen dear lord. Good job man
I told a Naruto fan that luffy is so broken and they didn’t believe me… lol
Naruto in his prime is still more powerful.
@@truthcrusader360 yes but some narutards severely underrate luffy saying hes city level at best and is only speed of sound
@@Cope690lmfao 😂
@@truthcrusader360 In DC yes, in everything else, no
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In AP as well.
Pre-timeskip Base Luffy can destroy a Small Town in one kick.
Do you know how strong Luffy has gotten since then?
He can destroy a continent with a punch now.
Imagine if he does a Bajrang Gatling. He could possibly destroy the planet! One Piece Earth is way bigger than a regular Earth in other anime.
So he might be planet lvl if you put him in a different anime.
one further argument for speed. luffy was dodging foxys noro noro photons, which put him at light speed back in long ring long land, if you are ignoring the sbs statement where oda said you would need to dodge at light speed to dodge enel. so luffy would be many x faster than even what you said. great video btw i loved watching it
Underrated asf
this is still one of my fav videos, must have taken so long to make
This might be a bit of a stretch and over complicate the multipliers already put forward, but at a bare minimum do you think a Haki multiplier would scale to Gear 2’s 7-10x?
When Luffy was fighting Boa Sandersonia and Marigold, in base he was effortlessly swatted away by their armament Haki; while using Gear 2 though he was able to break through.
Yea but post ts they aren’t really consistent in both wci and wano
Before going into snakeman luffy in base was keeping up with katakuri and nobody was faster than the other
Snake man should not have taken a single hit
Also there was base luffy keeping up with kaido and g4 and g2 luffy having lesser showings lol
@@True123.54 i think you forgot that Haki grows with use
@@dantheman9795 assuming that they grew in such a minuscule amount of time in such an unquantifiable manner stated beforehand would be just wrong
Also what you said isn’t a defeater to my point
@@True123.54 Katakuri wasn't going all out in that moment
@@Elchinodawn baseless claim lmfao
Your math skills are way of the charts.
I want to do it as well , fast and precisely.
Ma homie back at spitting fax. Enlighten em one piece downplayers fam. I ma edit after watching it.
This guy needs more than sub and like.
So so so much effort in the video (My guy Plannetary Level)
You are the best Powerscaler out there, and considering Nika is the Sun God, i would say Gear 5th to gear 5th bajrang gun is between multi-planet level to Sun level
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Its crazy how u could argue luffy is even stronger if u didn't give so many concessions even with those concessions u proved luffy was stronger than i imagined and i always argued luffy was way stronger than people thought this video is amazing you are really underrated
Yea I feel like a lot of people don’t realize how strong and fast one piece characters are
Even before this video I had been kinda downplaying One Piece characters because no one else really regarded them that highly, but this video singlehandedly convinced me that Luffy can fight on par with more strong characters from other verses than I had thought before
@@oNextq don't know why people downplay luffy so much, this guy explains it well and dosent downplay luffy unlike seth
@@Sa.D.B0 yea people have strong headcanon about one piece characters not being strong
@@Sa.D.B0 Seth does alot of good powerscaling for many characters, but when it comes to One Piece, he's just constantly tripping and out of his game, its not even funny.
Really wish someone could do this for Ichigo cuz I'm legitimately curious xD
awesome video.
is sanji next ?
Yup
Wow, this guy is good
This man sounds like a yaadie. Subbed.
I could listen to you say "archipelago" all day, great vid♡
Gear 5 also becomes stronger the more he laughs.
before watch this channel , I thought one piece character was island level bit after watching you. if give me new level respect for one piece and I hope your channel continue to grow.
steinolos before you do zoro and luffy vs naruto and sasuke, are you going to do power scaling feat for rest of the one piece post wano like sanji, kid , law , yamato and etc.
Yup. I’ll probably do sanji next and I’ve already done luffy Vs naruto btw
@@Steinixos are you going to continue to verse battle with other character from anime universe against one piece.
@@Steinixos I saw it and it was very interesting battle
Yup. I will continue the cross verse battles.
@@Steinixos I personally wouldn’t 100% trust vs wiki because they said Roshi isn’t moon level even though he destroyed it on screen and in the manga.
Pretty solid analysis all around, though I think the amp between Luffy’s crude Conqueror’s Haki and his mastered Conqueror’s Haki is quite a bit much.
This jump in power assumes that base Luffy grew to be as powerful as his previous Gear 4 King Kong with crude conqueror’s, but while he was using advanced conqueror’s for the first time we only ever saw him being able to use it in his base form with no indication of him going Gear 4 between when he started using it and being knocked off the island by Kaido.
At any point in the entire battle, was crude conquerors gear 4 luffy depicted to split the sky?
That’s the issue though, as far as I can recall Luffy never used Gear 4 when he first applied Conqueror’s to his blows, so assuming that a new base Luffy scales to a form he never used feels like a reach.
We can safely assume that a base Luffy with advanced armament scales to his prior Gear 4 self, because we saw the latter failing to hurt Kaido. We can similarly assume that a crude conqueror’s base Luffy scales to advanced armament Gear 4, given Luffy’s ability to damage Kaido in his strongest form. In the case of crude to mastered Conqueror’s Haki though, there is no instance of gear 4 (much less gear 4 King Kong) for a new base Luffy to neatly scale to.
@@michaeldorsey9231 read my pinned comment
Do you should check out Noodles scales reaction to your Luffy vs Naruto video I have never seen that much copium in a reaction before
Glorious video you must make another man yoh 10/10
My question is when we get to talking about planet and large planet levels of strength are we saying that as our planet or the one piece planet just curious. Also love the work and videos keep it up man!!😊
The most important distinction to make when scaling One Piece powers: attack potency =/= destructive capacity.
One Piece is a bunch of snipers in terms of anime power scaling. One Piece attacks don't necessarily cause major destruction, but you would make a grave mistake in thinking these attacks are easily tankable based solely on the destructive capacity.
Gamers should understand: it's akin to comparing crit multiplier with AoE. One is used to clear bosses, the other is for adds.
It was a nice video with some decent baselines. I don't agree with the last reset with crude kings armament vs true kings armament though. That one was not enough to do a reset of that magnitude.
Luffys new base is crazy though. I'm not sure if you ever saw my scaling list from context and feats performed but I will see if I can tag you in it later.
What do you mean you don’t agree? You’re saying prior to the second clash on the rooftop a gear 4 crude conquerors luffy was depicted to split the sky?
@@Steinixos I just don't agree that he gets a new base amp that puts his strongest form over planetary. There is potential for it within the context of OP but not necessarily based off what you said. I just don't see the crude version being a whole tier in AP under the normal version.
Read my pinned comment
@@Steinixos I just read it. I will comment under there if you would like. I agree that his base does get stronger, but by how much is highly debatable.
@@AcetaiTube Sure. Heads up tho if you're gonna continue with I feel statements i probably won't respond. I can only properly engage with factual statements. Not personal incredulity
21:55 gear 4 is pretty cool there, I loved the scene where luffy used king kong gun on lucci /j
W underrated
What are the possible applications of conqourers coating in a defensive manner, and how power would those forms of defense be?
I could listen to you say “buggy bomb” all day
I did a less conservative calculation, and I ended up at about : 1.156477668808458e+51 tons of tnt, which is about Multi- Solar system level, and I didn't even highball it, it was still somewhat conservative in my opinion.
So you’re saying Luffy is Solar system level?? 💀 your calcs might be a bit off
@@cameronstevens2053 maybe, but who knows. If Regular people can survice mountain blasting attacks, it might not be so farfetched to think.
I would definitely disagree with this scaling, even if you're saying its Multi-solar system for AP exclusively. Realistic is Large Planetary AP
How is it you post the truth with logically values but then a guy uploads random numbers on jinbe and 1M
Amazing job at the same time people Mostly don’t think how gear 5 luffy work Find even more funny After as there multiple proof of luffy Doing something crazy Yeah people just ignore or people say I watch the anime or Read the manga so I know how it works yet they Still get it wrong Crazy
At 21:53 I think you meant to say Gear 2 instead of Gear 4. Just wanted to let you know! Great video my friend
Best one piece video i've seen.
all of this checks out aside from the bounties since bounty is always a depicted accurate representation of strength since some bounties can be larger than others by being a bigger threat to civilians or to the status quo of the world government. or for an admiral, seeing how one such as greenbull was struggling to deal with the scabbards momo and yamato, but to be fair yamato is extremely powerful and momo on top of having a strong body inherited from oden also had a copy of kaidos df. we also have to take into account the world of onepiece is vastly larger than ours. by the numbers, easily planetary, but by narrative, its up in the air. great vid
"Goes to prison to do a little soul searching" bruh, that made me giggle
Haha I can't get enough of this video
I think that luffy is large planetary (Low-balled) I have provided the scaling but can anyone provide me the scaling for Multi-planetary. Also amazing video
Luffy pretimeskip= Large Mountain lvl (4 Gigatons)
Fishman island to Dressrosa:
Hody should be twice as strong as pretimeskip luffy while Hody is in base 2×4=8. Hody took at least 60 pills during the arc,not only that he fought luffy in the water so water doubles a fishman's overall physical stats,so 2×8=16 and since Hody took 60 pills 16×60= 960 Gigatons (Large island lvl)
Base luffy should be just as strong as hody,so if we apply luffy's multiplier for Gear 2nd 5×960=4.8 Teratons (Small country lvl)
Now Gear 3 should be at least a 3 times times multiplier 4.8×3= 14.4 Teratons (Country lvl), applying the multiplier for Gear 4th (Which should be at least a five times power up) 14.4×5= 72
Post whole cake island:
So luffy after whole cake island should be twice as strong as his Gear 4th version during Dressrosa,so we are going to multiply his gear 4th stats by 2 times 72×2= 144 so by this logic we can apply the multipliers for his gears. So Gear 2nd should be 5×144= 720 Teratons and the multiplier for Gear 3rd should be 720×3=2.1 Petatons (Continental), applying the multiplier for Gear 4th 5×2.1= 10.5 Petatons (Multi-continental)
Wano:
So luffy after learning Ryou should be twice as strong as his previous Gear 4th state in base,so 10.5×2= 21 and we will apply the multipliers for his Gears also,Gear 2nd 21×5= 105 exatons (Moon lvl) and the Gear 3rd multiplier should be 100×3=300 exatons,by applying his multiplier for Gear 4th 5×300= 1.5 zettatons (Small planetary)
Luffy when he uses Advance conquerers he should be twice as strong as he was in his previous Gear 4th state because he was able to not only keep up but damage kaido heavily even in his base state,so 1.5×2=3 zettatons and the multiplier for Gear 2nd 5×3= 15 and Gear 3rd 15×3= 45 zettatons, multiplier for Gear 4th is 5×45= 225 zettatons (Planet lvl)
Luffy after getting better at advance conquerers should again make him twice as strong as his previous Gear 4th form, multiplying Gear 4th by two 225 × 2= 450 Zettatons, applying Gear 2nd multiplier 450×5= 2.2 Yottatons, applying the gear 3rd multiplier 2.2×3= 6.6 Yottatons (Large Planetary) and lastly applying the multiplier for Gear 4th 6.6×5= 33 Yottatons (Btw I have scaled luffy to over thousands of times ftl)
@@ogbonnachizz9194 I can scale Hody to large Planetary lol and I'm going to make a video explaining my reasoning for the multipliers
@@ogbonnachizz9194 Me don't care lol. I increase or decrease luffy's power lvl based on what I'm arguing against. I don't know what Oda's intentions are and neither do you,we don't even know if he wanted luffy to be thousands of times mftl but luffy easily is. I'm not going to say luffy is solar system lvl or something but he is definitely in the star lvl range. A fodder like Sai was Continental lvl lol. Also I don't what you mean by the pills effect wearing off,do you have any evidence of that happening? If not then it can be easily dismissed
@@ogbonnachizz9194 Huh? Where did you get that from? Yes but a major part of knowing the authors intention in powerscaling is by using feats, statements etc
@@ogbonnachizz9194 Yeah I understand your argument and don't worry I won't scale Hody to planetary unless it's not necessary. I will scale him to moon lvl at most,now obviously if someone claims that Naruto is solar system lvl or something then yeah I will scale luffy to Galaxy lvl
this is really an amazing vid, keep it up. u earned a sub from me. ngl your one of the first ppl to show how much of a monster luffy was/became even before gear 5.
edit: i gotta say, luffy using kaido as a jump rope was way too disrespectful 💀
I knew One Piece characters were far stronger and faster than most give them credit for. But even though I am a fan of One Piece and you have compiled everything in a low ball calculation. I STILL can hardly believe that Luffy is even possibly Moon level let alone large planet level!
Oh and is possibly MFTL. You got the proof right in front of me and I am still struggling to believe it. It's pretty darn insane to say the least but it's the truth based on what you've presented.
You find it hard to believe because you haven't actually seen are large planetary or moon level feat. I understand. But for some series like one piece, you have to rely on its context.
@@akadenanderson3283
That's a good point. I can believe multi-continental but yikes. It's really astonishing.
@@golork3267 for real. But for naruto power scaling it's the opposite. I used to depend on power scalers scaling naruto characters and them saying that their planatary, solar system or even universal level and I strongly believed them. But now when you actually look at the context of naruto, they highest is small planetary, and the only character on that level was naruto in baryon mode......that doesn't even exist anymore. Context is really key.
@@akadenanderson3283
OK Absolute Top Tier Naruto Characters I can see planetary. Solar System and Universal? Where did those come from?
@@golork3267 I don't even know where they got that from, kaguya and her dimensions that they say she created. The data books said it to but the manga says and shows something else all she did was teleport them. I would naruto and jigen are the only two planatary characters with the context text shown.
With regards to the energy steroids, I feel like scaling with them might be weird, since they might change the user's biology to the point that they start affecting them less and less. Perhaps they could only double the power of a fairly regular human, with each pill decreasing the next one's effectiveness very slightly. When consumed en masse, that slight decrease in effectiveness would be drastically increased to the point that by the time they got to fighting underwater, Hordy chowing down pills only slightly increased his already high durability and AP. Again, your scaling could be completely correct but I feel that there's an argument to be made for Hordy not having that degree of strength.
Good video
So what Lv is gear5 Luffy? Is he only Large Planet Lv?