Thank you, Pete, for your dedication and passion for baseball. You played the game with an all-out, no-holds-barred approach that was truly inspiring. Growing up, my parents often spoke of you, and the fact that my father attended school with you made it even more special for me. Your contributions to the sport have left a lasting impact, and I am grateful for the opportunity to express my appreciation.
I was almost 4 months old when Rose became the hit king so I never got to watch him play. That's awesome you got to see some great history!! Since you are from Indiana, my great grandpa is from Wabash, Indiana.
Yes he is, and diffidently belongs in the hall. What he did should never effect his accomplishments on the field. And I watch him play his whole career. One of the best of all times. Charlie Hustle.
A huge part of the Big Red Machine. I was there when Joe drove in the winning run in Game 3 of the 1975 WS. And yet his BIGGEST hit ever was yet to come. It was a little flair he hit in the 9th inning of that WS that landed for a hit and drove in the winning run.
I used to have this recorded on ESPN Classic back in January 2004 but it was gone now but thank goodness for this game in it's entirety on MLB Classics youtube channel!
Pete Jr came to first base to ask for 10k because Pete's bookie was sitting on top of the dugout and wanted to collect that night for last week's bets.
I grew up a sf giant fan all my life and always admired and rooted for pete rose .. the fans back in the 60s booed him and i always wanted to know why ? caused he outhustled everyone and he represented hard work .. he used to slide head long into 2nd base and I loved it wow !!!!
One of the biggest disgraces in sport is that this guy isn't in the Hall of Fame. There are people in there who've done even less than he did in warmup and get in, but he can't. Shame on the MLB.
Everyone knows that if you bet on baseball, you are banned. Why? cause it leads to fixed games, pre determined games, organized crime involved. In Pete Rose's case, he lied and was in denial that he bet on baseball, then finally admitted to it. How can we believe someone who was lying for years? He did bet on his own team as well. But the point is, you bet, you're out.
@@josecarranza7555 its not like he killed someone. He bet on those games later in his career. His big numbers were put up before the bets. Ive seen murderers get cut more slack! This is baseball for crying out loud..sports entertainment. His betting hasnt affected life in earth. Get over it. Thats the problem with our bitter society...unforgiveness...Forgiveness is for big people. Rose was bigger than the game and every true knowledgeable baseball fan know his talent and the agressiveness he brought to the game like no other. See i played ball through college. U I was good. But to be a Rose....is to be the best. like Nolan Ryan was on the mound, Pete was everywhere else on the field( utility man ). ..and he will always be known as the best...hall of fame or not..lol..think about it bro.
He didn't really cheat!! He did bet on games but never did anything to enhance his performance like whitey ford or them did!! He was a straight up amazing baseball player
@@cmacdhon That's A CROCK OF SHIT - at least about Whitey anyway !! I've NEVER heard ANYTHING FROM HIM saying that he CHEATED ! Be that as it may though what Rose did was FAR FUCKING WORSE then just scuffing up a ball or two ONCE IN AWHILE !!
@@thebambino4728 hes a human being...he made a mistake...didnt kill somebody or cheat on his wife. Besides, those who dont forgive are very vmbitter humans. He deserves to be in bevause of stats. Do you think a few games betting would ruin the numbers he put on before he really started putting money on games. Later in his career was a few games he bet...big deal. Look at his talent, wotk ethoc and most of all his entertainment on the field couldnt ne topped...maybe nolan ryan. So before you blow off unneccessary steam....look at yourself before you judge Pete you putz.
Could you imagine were Ty Cobb would be had he not stopped playing when he did? If he had played out till he had the same number of at bats as Rose, he would have hit just over 5000 hits. Still, Pete Rose earned the HOF, period!
In this game, Steve Garvey is playing 1st base for the visiting Padres when Pete Rose gets one of the biggest hits in MLB history. As a lifelong Detroit Tigers fan, I will never forget our 1984 WS victory over San Diego, and Steve Garvey was playing 1st base at Tiger Stadium when Kirk Gibson hit his 3-run 8th inning homer to basically seal it for Detroit. Seven years earlier at Yankee Stadium, Steve Garvey was the Dodger 1st basemen during WS game 6 when Reggie Jackson hit 3 home runs on 3 consecutive pitches and the Yankees became 1977 world champs. Finally, in April 1974 Steve Garvey was at 1st base for the visiting Dodgers when they played the Atlanta Braves and Hank Aaron hit his 715th home run - passing Babe Ruth.
What a class act by Pete after the hit. He wanted to just play the game for what it was and nothing else. I was especially amazed at the solid commentating, and camera work. Its also neat to take a step back and time and see how everybody carried themeselves. No one was trying to be flashy or be a superstar. Just an awesome gem.
"...and nothing else." Except of course break the cardinal rule as a Major Leaguer and bet on the games, and then blame everyone for the witch hunt because he was innocent. They gave him many chances to admit it and suffer a penalty less severe. Instead he chose his road and he knew the consequences.
Between youtube videos and baseball articles I've read through the years, something interesting about Steve Garvey: He was on the field playing 1st base when Hank Aaron hit his 715th home run in '74, he was also playing first base when Reggie Jackson hit 3 home runs in Game 6 of '77 WS......same thing in '84 when Kirk Gibson hit the euphoric Game 5 WS home run that virtually sank the Padres....and was out there at 1st base when Pete Rose gets the all time hits record.
...... and Ty Cobb was and is still the best as he played in 500 less career games in the same 24 year exact span of Rose's career. Ty Cobb - the best there ever was and ever will be. Pure contact hitter the best ever.
Love to watch the old games and especially this one.I think it was the Cincinnati Enquirer that ran a contest for anyone to enter to write a poem about Petes hit,I entered it but didn't win.I remember the newspaper headlines the next day like it was yesterday,I had a copy of the paper but lost it over the years.4192 forever ! Rest in peace Tony Gynn.
These were the greatest moments in baseball history along with Hank Aaron, Cal Ripken Jr. Nolan Ryan, Roger Maris and the Reds first beating Boston in the 1975 WS and then coming back and sweeping the Yankees in 4 games in the 1976 WS..
Since you said moments, I'm assuming you mean: Aaron breaking Ruth's HR record Ripken breaking Gehrig's consecutive games streak Ryan breaking the strikeout record while neck-in-neck with Carlton Maris hitting 61 to break Ruth's single-season HR record
I wasn't alive to watch pete rose play and watch the whole betting controversy go down. Compared to other things players have done in baseball, I dont see why pete isn't in the hall of fame. He has some of the most impressive baseball records. I think time will be on his side. I think they will induct him in the future.
Rule 21 is pretty clear what will happen to a player or manager if they bet on a game that they have any part in. The consequences are being put on the permanently ineligible list. The Hall of Fame considers anyone on that list ineligible to be placed on the ballot. Time is not on his side anymore than it is not on Joe Jackson's side. It's not like there wasn't a precedent set by MLB when Joe Jackson threw a game (when Rule 21 didn't even exist), and he was permanently banned.
He more than disertes to be in the hall of fame, 4256 career hits. Who today would get even close to those numbers. Yes he did a couple of nested up stuff but there are many players today who do stupid shit. Give him to him while he is still here. He deserves it.
The record stood for 67 years by the best hitter average wise that ever played the game. In almost 34 years since this day, no one has come close to breaking his record. The closest was 5 years ago and Derek Jeter is 791 hits behind him.
When I heard the news on my little Walkman, I was about 40 miles away, in a youth center in Miamisburg, shouting out the front door to my friend Chris, after the news broke. I only got out the words "Pete Rose has..." when the kid abandoned his bicycle and ran towards his house faster than an Olympic sprinter to catch it on TV. Ah, the days long before the iPhone!
Of course, some of you lived through the days when Henry Aaron blasted his 715th career homer to get past Babe Ruth's 714 homers. There is some affinity to that baseball milestone on April 10, 1974 and the video you saw as Pete Rose at Riverfront Stadium blasting a basehit (his 4,192nd) on September 16, 1985, that almost went for a ground-rule double--once I saw the ball go down to the astro-turf in left-center field, I knew Pete made history. I was 15 years old and in Chicago, IL when Rose made history. The affinity between these two events already mentioned was the loudest roar of the crowd, congratulations from the teammates, fireworks exploding above the stadium in celebration. (The Hank Aaron 715th homer had about 50 pieces of fireworks exploding; for Pete's 4192, I think about 200-300 pieces of fireworks went off.) Just before that trouble Pete Rose had from gambling, Pete Rose was the most-adored icon in Major League Baseball--almost as iconic as the great Reggie Jackson.
A great moment, to be sure, but celebrated at the wrong time. Rose actually broke the record a few days earlier. Cobb only had 4,189 hits, not 4,191. Researchers in the 70s found one of his games was counted twice in his stats, but MLB was too stubborn to change its record books.
Ty Cobb & Tris Speaker both threw multiple games for money and signed statements admitting this for then MLB commissioner Kennesaw Landis. Both Ty Cobb & Tris Speaker are in the Hall of Fame and were not banned from baseball. Pete Rose never bet against his own team and has been banned from baseball by over zealous commissioners Bud Selig and Rob Manfred. Under Rob Manfred's commissioner watch, Major League Baseball has had ownership in the web's two biggest gambling websites (Fanduel & DraftKings), but cites it is against gambling and cites this as the primary reason Pete Rose has been banned from baseball for Life and will not be reinstated. With many other Hall of Famers having been caught and admitted to gambling on baseball against their own teams, Selig and Manfred's stance against Rose who only bet on his team to win is both hypocritical, inconsistent, over-zealous and the penalty does not fit the crime. Hall of Famers Whitey Ford and Gaylord Perry also have been caught doctoring baseballes. Ford admitted to doctoring baseball's repeatedly during the last years of his career and also admitted to betting on baseball and to betting to strike out Willie Mays etc. Ford was never banned from baseball for betting on baseball or docotring baseballs-even after having been caught doing so and admitting to doing so. Gaylord Perry threw spitters and "rosin" puffball pitches were used by Perry throughout his career and Perry was caught cheating repeatedly. Perry admitted to cheating throughout his career. Both Whitey Ford and Gaylord Perry are members of the hall of fame. Petition #1 to put Rose into the hall of fame: petitions.moveon.org/sign/put-pete-rose-in-the
I'm in Cincinnati. Johnny Bench is who did most of the damage to Rose. Bench was the star of that team back then, and Rose eclipsed him with the "hit." Bench can't handle it and has been lobbying Hall of Fame guys to boycott a Pete rose induction ceremony. Three baseball commissioners knew about it and that's why they won't induct Pete.
Pete Rose is still a great man.We need to come together and put a stop to the people who are still trying to disgrace and humiliate this man.I've seen murderers cut more slack than Pete Rose.Time to step up against the bullies trying to keep him down.
Pete Rose's 4192nd hit @ 0:26:29 Nick Esasky's groundout @ 0:59:42 Nick Esasky's sac fly @ 1:42:32 top of the ninth @ 2:01:41 last batter Steve Garvey @ 2:07:12
Pete Rose was good. Soon to be Hall of Famer Pete Rose. Everyone gambles. He never bet on the reds to lose. He didn't use PED's. Just greenies. Like everyone else. Could you imagine those older players on A-Rod level PED's. Real men that would drink beer until game time and go 4 for 4.
budweiser was their major sponsor plus they would have the budweiser play of the game and would say "this buds for you" hell i would have given pete a toast after the historical hit
Wasn't a recounting of Ty Cobb's hits done, which showed that he only finished with 4189? Obviously no one knew it at this time, but Rose actually passed Ty with his 4190th hit.
+terminat1 You are correct. The historians discovered that two of Cobb's hits were counted twice and thus only had 4,189. Therefore Pete actually broke the record when he was playing on the road in Chicago!
@@roland7584 I imagine if someone had it, it would have been posted by now. It was on WGN so you'd think the game has to be somewhere. The best I can do is the clip: ruclips.net/video/Qe7vVqy_cuc/видео.html
The infamous at-bat begins @26:30. A lot of things in this broadcast would not pass muster now, including the broadcasters (Joe Morgan) clinking cans of Budweiser live on air.
Put him in - it's been long enough - Major League Baseball would serve itself well if this issue was put to rest - he has paid for his discretions - to continue this prohibition is only hurting the game - Pete knows we love him
@@roland7584 I Know he hurt himself - how did he hurt the game ? I know the game wasn't as interesting without him - I'll tell you what hurt the game - greed
@@davidrice3337 He hurt the game by putting the commissioner and the rest of MLB at risk and having to make a decision against one of the greatest players to ever play the game. He thought he was untouchable so he played the denial game and lost out on his chance to let baseball let this go away before the report was ever released. Then he lost out on his chance to ever let it go away by denying it for years and years with the same blame game against the commissioner, Dowd, the press, and everyone else that did something in baseball that could have been worse than his gambling. This wasn't about anyone else. It was about him and disrespecting the game and breaking rule 21. If he didn't think it was such a big deal, then why didn't he admit it right away? I don't think that question needs to be answered because Pete knew what the punishment was and he was trying to avoid that punishment. As screwed up as baseball is now, not backing down from this is the one right decision they've made in a very long time.
He might stand a chance of getting into the HOF,but probably not before he dies. Alex Karras had the same thing happen to him in football, but was elected to the hall of fame a couple of years ago.
Pete Rose is a legend. And should be in the HOF. Of course though he needed more at bats to brake the record the same with Hank Aaron who needed 4000 more at bats to brake Babe Ruth's record.
Now that so many 90s era players like Ken Griffey, Jr., Mike Piazza, Greg Maddux, John Smoltz, and Randy Johnson are in, the case for excluding Rose is incredibly weak.
The difference between Pete Rose and any other sports idol, my favourite Bjorn Borg, is to HAVE TO STAND THERE for 3 minutes of applause in YOUR HOMETOWN, not Ty Cobb, Babe Ruth, nor Cy Young had to do that! Hall of Famer should be, idol of our generation 1975, slide headfirst like Pete Rose! My Generation...
It was kind of all down hill for Eric Show after this. He was criticized by teammates for sitting after the hit. Got in fights with teammates and was dead from drugs 9 years later.
Thank you, Pete, for your dedication and passion for baseball. You played the game with an all-out, no-holds-barred approach that was truly inspiring. Growing up, my parents often spoke of you, and the fact that my father attended school with you made it even more special for me. Your contributions to the sport have left a lasting impact, and I am grateful for the opportunity to express my appreciation.
I was there, September 11, 1985 , I drove over 125 miles from Carmel, Indiana
with My family the most memorable game in my 72 years. It was Amazing.
I was almost 4 months old when Rose became the hit king so I never got to watch him play. That's awesome you got to see some great history!! Since you are from Indiana, my great grandpa is from Wabash, Indiana.
Good call.I should have done the same thing.
I liked the fireworks
Bullshit
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No words....Pete is a legend...deserves to be in the Hall of Fame more than many who are already there....
That shit stain needs to stay banned from the hall.
Oh STFU... The HoF is tainted with drug addicts and Steroid using douchebags that couldn't hold Pete Rose's jockstrap.
Yes he is, and diffidently belongs in the hall. What he did should never effect his accomplishments on the field. And I watch him play his whole career. One of the best of all times. Charlie Hustle.
Charlie Hustle played the game with a passion that we rarely see, in any sport.
Not a Reds fan but I agree Pete should be in the Hall of Fame.
RIP Joe Morgan. Rose is a legend and one of the greats.I recently got a 1970 Topps Pete baseball card. Part of the Big Red Machine.
A huge part of the Big Red Machine. I was there when Joe drove in the winning run in Game 3 of the 1975 WS. And yet his BIGGEST hit ever was yet to come. It was a little flair he hit in the 9th inning of that WS that landed for a hit and drove in the winning run.
I used to have this recorded on ESPN Classic back in January 2004 but it was gone now but thank goodness for this game in it's entirety on MLB Classics youtube channel!
Still get tears in my eyes when Pete Jr comes to first base and hugs his dad. Makes the whole thing real.
Pete Jr came to first base to ask for 10k because Pete's bookie was sitting on top of the dugout and wanted to collect that night for last week's bets.
I grew up a sf giant fan all my life and always admired and rooted for pete rose .. the fans back in the 60s booed him and i always wanted to know why ? caused he outhustled everyone and he represented hard work .. he used to slide head long into 2nd base and I loved it wow !!!!
One of the biggest disgraces in sport is that this guy isn't in the Hall of Fame. There are people in there who've done even less than he did in warmup and get in, but he can't. Shame on the MLB.
Everyone knows that if you bet on baseball, you are banned.
Why? cause it leads to fixed games, pre determined games, organized crime involved.
In Pete Rose's case, he lied and was in denial that he bet on baseball, then finally admitted to it. How can we believe someone who was lying for years?
He did bet on his own team as well. But the point is, you bet, you're out.
@@josecarranza7555 get over it. Look at his stats putz.
@@BluBlu111 Betting leads to lifetime ban.
@@josecarranza7555 its not like he killed someone. He bet on those games later in his career. His big numbers were put up before the bets. Ive seen murderers get cut more slack! This is baseball for crying out loud..sports entertainment. His betting hasnt affected life in earth. Get over it. Thats the problem with our bitter society...unforgiveness...Forgiveness is for big people. Rose was bigger than the game and every true knowledgeable baseball fan know his talent and the agressiveness he brought to the game like no other. See i played ball through college. U
I was good. But to be a Rose....is to be the best. like Nolan Ryan was on the mound, Pete was everywhere else on the field( utility man ). ..and he will always be known as the best...hall of fame or not..lol..think about it bro.
@@BluBlu111 Seems like you can’t get over it.
Every clubhouse it says that betting leads to lifetime ban.
Capishe
Pete was inducted into the Reds Hall Of Fame today. About time!
Right on, I saw that
I was there to witness it first hand!
Really, pete rose baseball hitting king
Still should be in Cooperstown, but that will work some too.
Of my 51 years, this is the greatest moment in sports. MLB should be ashamed of themselves...
Pete should be ashamed of himself for putting the MLB in this position and taking the game down.
The Hit Begins at 00:26:29
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PUT THIS MAN IN THE FREAKIN HALL OF FAME ALREADY!!!!!!!
Hell yeah!!!!!!! Whitey Ford and Don Sutton are in the HOF, and both freely admit that they cheated.
He didn't really cheat!! He did bet on games but never did anything to enhance his performance like whitey ford or them did!! He was a straight up amazing baseball player
@@cmacdhon That's A CROCK OF SHIT - at least about Whitey anyway !! I've NEVER heard ANYTHING FROM HIM saying that he CHEATED ! Be that as it may though what Rose did was FAR FUCKING WORSE then just scuffing up a ball or two ONCE IN AWHILE !!
BULLSHIT - he got WHAT HE DESERVED by being BANNED FOR LIFE and that will NEVER CHANGE !
@@thebambino4728 hes a human being...he made a mistake...didnt kill somebody or cheat on his wife. Besides, those who dont forgive are very vmbitter humans. He deserves to be in bevause of stats. Do you think a few games betting would ruin the numbers he put on before he really started putting money on games. Later in his career was a few games he bet...big deal. Look at his talent, wotk ethoc and most of all his entertainment on the field couldnt ne topped...maybe nolan ryan. So before you blow off unneccessary steam....look at yourself before you judge Pete you putz.
Could you imagine were Ty Cobb would be had he not stopped playing when he did? If he had played out till he had the same number of at bats as Rose, he would have hit just over 5000 hits. Still, Pete Rose earned the HOF, period!
Paul Bledsoe ty Cobb had the most at bats in MLB history
KingSavage TM No he didn't
Pete does. He also holds the record for most plate appearances.
@@stevenkramer4762 Which is cool in itself.
Still, Pete Rose earned his lifetime ban and will never make the Hall of Fame, period!
Pete Hustled always and played the Game it was supposed to be Played-Put him in the Hall of Fame
In this game, Steve Garvey is playing 1st base for the visiting Padres when Pete Rose gets one of the biggest hits in MLB history. As a lifelong Detroit Tigers fan, I will never forget our 1984 WS victory over San Diego, and Steve Garvey was playing 1st base at Tiger Stadium when Kirk Gibson hit his 3-run 8th inning homer to basically seal it for Detroit. Seven years earlier at Yankee Stadium, Steve Garvey was the Dodger 1st basemen during WS game 6 when Reggie Jackson hit 3 home runs on 3 consecutive pitches and the Yankees became 1977 world champs. Finally, in April 1974 Steve Garvey was at 1st base for the visiting Dodgers when they played the Atlanta Braves and Hank Aaron hit his 715th home run - passing Babe Ruth.
*****
six degrees of separation of Steve Garvey
Steve Garvey was the first man to congratulate Pete on that wonderful night. I think Pete is great, and I think Steve is great as well.
Do sad not to see him in the Hall. It's time i believe.
I met pete last week in las Vegas. It was cool to personally congratulate him
yes it was
@@fountainracing did you just reply to your own comment
THE BIG RED MACHINE!!!! So much fun growing up with these guys. I might be one of the luckiest guys in the whole world.
Without a doubt, Pete Rose is a Hall of Famer.....Good game Pete!!!
R.I.P. Pete Rose🙏
What a class act by Pete after the hit. He wanted to just play the game for what it was and nothing else. I was especially amazed at the solid commentating, and camera work. Its also neat to take a step back and time and see how everybody carried themeselves. No one was trying to be flashy or be a superstar. Just an awesome gem.
"...and nothing else." Except of course break the cardinal rule as a Major Leaguer and bet on the games, and then blame everyone for the witch hunt because he was innocent. They gave him many chances to admit it and suffer a penalty less severe. Instead he chose his road and he knew the consequences.
Pete is my boy Mr Charlie hustle. He will definitely get there but, it's a shame that he won't be alive to see it. I support him 100%
Between youtube videos and baseball articles I've read through the years, something interesting about Steve Garvey: He was on the field playing 1st base when Hank Aaron hit his 715th home run in '74, he was also playing first base when Reggie Jackson hit 3 home runs in Game 6 of '77 WS......same thing in '84 when Kirk Gibson hit the euphoric Game 5 WS home run that virtually sank the Padres....and was out there at 1st base when Pete Rose gets the all time hits record.
You forgot to add that he and Pete Rose are still together on the outside of the Hall of Fame.
It is embarrassing for MLB to keep Rose out of the hall of fame, when so many others with issues are in it.
I remember watching this historical game just as if were on the tube yesterday.
...... and Ty Cobb was and is still the best as he played in 500 less career games in the same 24 year exact span of Rose's career. Ty Cobb - the best there ever was and ever will be. Pure contact hitter the best ever.
Love to watch the old games and especially this one.I think it was the Cincinnati Enquirer that ran a contest for anyone to enter to write a poem about Petes hit,I entered it but didn't win.I remember the newspaper headlines the next day like it was yesterday,I had a copy of the paper but lost it over the years.4192 forever !
Rest in peace Tony Gynn.
That's one of the longest standing ovations I've ever heard/seen for an athlete. Definitely deserves it.
Yep. The only one that I can think of that probably beats it is when Ripken broke Gehrig's consecutive games played streak.
They don't make them like Pete Rose. A great moment in sports history. Put him in the hall of fame. He deserves to be there.
Pete Rose doesn’t deserve to be on the HoF.
It’s the HoF that needs Pete Rose.
you know Pete has watched this video a few hundred times.
Betting or not, there's one fact that still remains:
Pete Rose is the greatest of all-time
Amen. Him and nolan ryan
You're correct. Pete Rose is the greatest gambling manager of all-time.
He was and will always be the greatest hitter of all time!
I can only hope that the powers that be will put him in the hall while he is still alive!
These were the greatest moments in baseball history along with Hank Aaron, Cal Ripken Jr. Nolan Ryan, Roger Maris and the Reds first beating Boston in the 1975 WS and then coming back and sweeping the Yankees in 4 games in the 1976 WS..
Since you said moments, I'm assuming you mean:
Aaron breaking Ruth's HR record
Ripken breaking Gehrig's consecutive games streak
Ryan breaking the strikeout record while neck-in-neck with Carlton
Maris hitting 61 to break Ruth's single-season HR record
This happened on the anniversary of Ty Cobb's last game!
wow
Unbelievable moment. No one will ever top this... these guys are too busy hitting home runs
The record breaking is hit at 27:55.
Thank you!
@Christopher Hagee Cobb has 4189 according to Baseball Reference website. 4190 is the record.
I heard they counted one of Cobb’s hit twice.
Eric Show (May 19, 1956 - March 16, 1994) Really, a heartbreaking story there.
SCE2AUX2 Something for our kiddies all across America to learn from.
+SCE2AUX2 Very sad indeed. One of the many lives lost to the demon of drug and alcohol addiction. May he rest in peace.
Pete Rose may not have the Hall Of Fame, but he sure as hell had THIS night and no one can ever, EVER take it away from him.
I wasn't alive to watch pete rose play and watch the whole betting controversy go down. Compared to other things players have done in baseball, I dont see why pete isn't in the hall of fame. He has some of the most impressive baseball records. I think time will be on his side. I think they will induct him in the future.
Rule 21 is pretty clear what will happen to a player or manager if they bet on a game that they have any part in. The consequences are being put on the permanently ineligible list. The Hall of Fame considers anyone on that list ineligible to be placed on the ballot. Time is not on his side anymore than it is not on Joe Jackson's side. It's not like there wasn't a precedent set by MLB when Joe Jackson threw a game (when Rule 21 didn't even exist), and he was permanently banned.
26:54 it starts...
He more than disertes to be in the hall of fame, 4256 career hits. Who today would get even close to those numbers. Yes he did a couple of nested up stuff but there are many players today who do stupid shit. Give him to him while he is still here. He deserves it.
Amazing to see Pete Rose and Tony Gwynn in the same game.
Put Rose in the hall please. It's been far to dam long.
Damned right. Pete Rose is the Richard Petty of Baseball.
RIP Pete Rose.
Rest-In-Piece Pete Rose (1941-2024)
No former player deserves to be in the hall of fame more than him.
This man deserves to be in the Hall Of Fame! PERIOD!
Putting Pete into the Baseball Hall of Fame is too sensible for MLB.
The record stood for 67 years by the best hitter average wise that ever played the game. In almost 34 years since this day, no one has come close to breaking his record. The closest was 5 years ago and Derek Jeter is 791 hits behind him.
Never seen beer drinking in the broadcast booth. Lol
RIP Little Joe. And with Browning on the mound. Gwynn and Bevacqua "Mr San Francisco". LOL
it takes only Pete Rose to become no1 of all-time on a september 11th...
When I heard the news on my little Walkman, I was about 40 miles away, in a youth center in Miamisburg, shouting out the front door to my friend Chris, after the news broke. I only got out the words "Pete Rose has..." when the kid abandoned his bicycle and ran towards his house faster than an Olympic sprinter to catch it on TV. Ah, the days long before the iPhone!
this video should have a million views, where is the Rose Fans at?
27:51 "2-1 pitch from Show...into left center...there it is...!"
This was 16 years exactly before 9/11.
Class acts all around, can't broadcast like this any more.
The 🐐 hall of fame speech one day
Greatest ball game team ever
Of course, some of you lived through the days when Henry Aaron blasted his 715th career homer to get past Babe Ruth's 714 homers. There is some affinity to that baseball milestone on April 10, 1974 and the video you saw as Pete Rose at Riverfront Stadium blasting a basehit (his 4,192nd) on September 16, 1985, that almost went for a ground-rule double--once I saw the ball go down to the astro-turf in left-center field, I knew Pete made history. I was 15 years old and in Chicago, IL when Rose made history. The affinity between these two events already mentioned was the loudest roar of the crowd, congratulations from the teammates, fireworks exploding above the stadium in celebration. (The Hank Aaron 715th homer had about 50 pieces of fireworks exploding; for Pete's 4192, I think about 200-300 pieces of fireworks went off.) Just before that trouble Pete Rose had from gambling, Pete Rose was the most-adored icon in Major League Baseball--almost as iconic as the great Reggie Jackson.
A great moment, to be sure, but celebrated at the wrong time. Rose actually broke the record a few days earlier. Cobb only had 4,189 hits, not 4,191. Researchers in the 70s found one of his games was counted twice in his stats, but MLB was too stubborn to change its record books.
Ty Cobb & Tris Speaker both threw multiple games for money and signed statements admitting this for then MLB commissioner Kennesaw Landis. Both Ty Cobb & Tris Speaker are in the Hall of Fame and were not banned from baseball. Pete Rose never bet against his own team and has been banned from baseball by over zealous commissioners Bud Selig and Rob Manfred. Under Rob Manfred's commissioner watch, Major League Baseball has had ownership in the web's two biggest gambling websites (Fanduel & DraftKings), but cites it is against gambling and cites this as the primary reason Pete Rose has been banned from baseball for Life and will not be reinstated. With many other Hall of Famers having been caught and admitted to gambling on baseball against their own teams, Selig and Manfred's stance against Rose who only bet on his team to win is both hypocritical, inconsistent, over-zealous and the penalty does not fit the crime. Hall of Famers Whitey Ford and Gaylord Perry also have been caught doctoring baseballes. Ford admitted to doctoring baseball's repeatedly during the last years of his career and also admitted to betting on baseball and to betting to strike out Willie Mays etc. Ford was never banned from baseball for betting on baseball or docotring baseballs-even after having been caught doing so and admitting to doing so. Gaylord Perry threw spitters and "rosin" puffball pitches were used by Perry throughout his career and Perry was caught cheating repeatedly. Perry admitted to cheating throughout his career. Both Whitey Ford and Gaylord Perry are members of the hall of fame. Petition #1 to put Rose into the hall of fame: petitions.moveon.org/sign/put-pete-rose-in-the
Now here is someone that knows what he is talking about. Well said, and all true.
Yep - probably a big Reds fan too.
Go Big Red Machine!!
I'm in Cincinnati. Johnny Bench is who did most of the damage to Rose. Bench was the star of that team back then, and Rose eclipsed him with the "hit." Bench can't handle it and has been lobbying Hall of Fame guys to boycott a Pete rose induction ceremony. Three baseball commissioners knew about it and that's why they won't induct Pete.
Pete Zereeah I think they also blame Pete for Giamatti's death.
If you're a betting man, put some money down on Pete Rose getting into the Hall eventually.
He will never get in. Shoeless Joe Jackson is still waiting too. No one is pleading Jackson's case nor should they because they know better.
@@roland7584 I thought Shoeless Joe was gonna get into the hall for sure after 'Field of Dreams', but it didn't happen. Very stubborn people in mlb.
Pete Rose is still a great man.We need to come together and put a stop to the people who are still trying to disgrace and humiliate this man.I've seen murderers cut more slack than Pete Rose.Time to step up against the bullies trying to keep him down.
Ken Wilson, Joe Morgan & Steve Physioc on the Cincinnati Reds Television network.
He doesn't need to be in the HOF. He's the best hitter and everyone knows it........
Check out the defensive play Pete Rose makes @ 2:08:05 to end the game.
Steve Garvey is such a polite gentleman. 6 years over 200 hits and a Gold Glove 1st baseman. Sure looks like HOF material to me.
The other side of that story is that Show congratulated Pete and was happy for him, but his back hurt and couldn't stand still for that long.
Pete Rose's 4192nd hit @ 0:26:29
Nick Esasky's groundout @ 0:59:42
Nick Esasky's sac fly @ 1:42:32
top of the ninth @ 2:01:41
last batter Steve Garvey @ 2:07:12
Pete Rose was good. Soon to be Hall of Famer Pete Rose. Everyone gambles. He never bet on the reds to lose. He didn't use PED's. Just greenies. Like everyone else. Could you imagine those older players on A-Rod level PED's. Real men that would drink beer until game time and go 4 for 4.
Pete's 44 game hitting streak was in 1978, not 1977.
The commentators toasting with Budweisers tho
No way they could get away with that these days, lol.
budweiser was their major sponsor plus they would have the budweiser play of the game and would say
"this buds for you" hell i would have given pete a toast after the historical hit
The Padres wore essentially the exact same road uniform as the San Francisco Giants during this era.
iremember watching this on breackthrew tv in philly I don't know what channel but it so awesome
Breakthrough
Wasn't a recounting of Ty Cobb's hits done, which showed that he only finished with 4189? Obviously no one knew it at this time, but Rose actually passed Ty with his 4190th hit.
+terminat1 You are correct. The historians discovered that two of Cobb's hits were counted twice and thus only had 4,189. Therefore Pete actually broke the record when he was playing on the road in Chicago!
@@1981lashlarue Can someone please post this game on RUclips so we can watch the real record breaking hit? :)
@@roland7584 I imagine if someone had it, it would have been posted by now. It was on WGN so you'd think the game has to be somewhere.
The best I can do is the clip: ruclips.net/video/Qe7vVqy_cuc/видео.html
no one has since broke the record.......the hall of fame has become a joke.........
The infamous at-bat begins @26:30. A lot of things in this broadcast would not pass muster now, including the broadcasters (Joe Morgan) clinking cans of Budweiser live on air.
Put him in - it's been long enough - Major League Baseball would serve itself well if this issue was put to rest - he has paid for his discretions - to continue this prohibition is only hurting the game - Pete knows we love him
Pete hurt the game. The game didn't hurt him. MLB didn't put him in this position. He put MLB and himself in this position.
@@roland7584 I Know he hurt himself - how did he hurt the game ? I know the game wasn't as interesting without him - I'll tell you what hurt the game - greed
@@davidrice3337 He hurt the game by putting the commissioner and the rest of MLB at risk and having to make a decision against one of the greatest players to ever play the game. He thought he was untouchable so he played the denial game and lost out on his chance to let baseball let this go away before the report was ever released. Then he lost out on his chance to ever let it go away by denying it for years and years with the same blame game against the commissioner, Dowd, the press, and everyone else that did something in baseball that could have been worse than his gambling. This wasn't about anyone else. It was about him and disrespecting the game and breaking rule 21. If he didn't think it was such a big deal, then why didn't he admit it right away? I don't think that question needs to be answered because Pete knew what the punishment was and he was trying to avoid that punishment. As screwed up as baseball is now, not backing down from this is the one right decision they've made in a very long time.
1:21:50 what is that song that they’re playing?
this buds for you pete
i remember when they would do
the budweiser play of the game and would say...
this buds for you after they show it
Long John Silver's "Seafood Shoppes."
This is good, but Marty and Joe's call is so great
He might stand a chance of getting into the HOF,but probably not before he dies. Alex Karras had the same thing happen to him in football, but was elected to the hall of fame a couple of years ago.
Pete Rose is a legend. And should be in the HOF. Of course though he needed more at bats to brake the record the same with Hank Aaron who needed 4000 more at bats to brake Babe Ruth's record.
San Diego Padres second baseman Jerry Royster...
22years later, he became a foreign manager of Lotte Giant - korean baseball team.
9/11/85 was a little better day than 9/11/01.
only a little??????
Anyone know a place or web site where one can buy the Padres jersey they are wearing during that season? I've had no luck finding it.
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Who did the fireworks? They were booming like crazy.
Now that so many 90s era players like Ken Griffey, Jr., Mike Piazza, Greg Maddux, John Smoltz, and Randy Johnson are in, the case for excluding Rose is incredibly weak.
Did they all bet on games? I didn't catch those stories.
R.I.P. Joe Morgan.
❤joe Morgan my hero
Gotta love Phisbot...
Quite a feat to break Cy Young's record for most hits.
The difference between Pete Rose and any other sports idol, my favourite Bjorn Borg, is to HAVE TO STAND THERE for 3 minutes of applause in YOUR HOMETOWN, not Ty Cobb, Babe Ruth, nor Cy Young had to do that! Hall of Famer should be, idol of our generation 1975, slide headfirst like Pete Rose! My Generation...
I wanna hear Marty n Joe.
Do you have a DVD copy of this game?
It was kind of all down hill for Eric Show after this. He was criticized by teammates for sitting after the hit. Got in fights with teammates and was dead from drugs 9 years later.
Let. Pete. In.