I just put Auxbeam LEDs in my '92 Mustang in the stock housings. Dramatic difference, sharp cutoff, doesn't blind oncoming drivers. Very happy with these. The cheap LEDs throw light everywhere, the difference between cheap and expensive is the light pattern.
Those may be 8,000 lumens, but you need a light meter to be sure. A common problem some overlook is that it’s the YELLOW in white light that helps us see at night. Colored bulbs that mimic HID lights are filtering out the yellow which means you need a lot more lumens to see the same as halogen bulbs produce. LEDs are designed to give off a specific color temperature which might work against the desired result. The bulb is brighter but less effective at night. HIDs get around this by putting out pure white light. Even if it looks blue, the yellow content is there and in greater amounts. So the test isn’t lumens unless the color temperature of a bulb matches OEM spec. Then you’ll see the difference. The only exception (from my research) is to go HID.
Going by efficacy numbers and pitting them against 1: a comparible gas discharge lamp (90 watt low pressure sodium) and 2: the current industry maximum for an LED chip and a 55w halogen we get some interesting results. The stated luminous flux of these lamps is 8000 lumens. If we divide that by the advertised 50 watts, that's 160 lumens per watt. This puts it 10 lumens per watt higher than a 90 watt low pressure sodium lamp if we believe the figures (13,500 lumens with a 150 lumen per watt efficacy) Now for the important bit: The high end LED industry... The absolute best of the best LED technologies struggle to muster 100 lumens per watt. this is still a VERY impressive efficacy figure but I HIGHLY doubt that the makers of the LED headlamps in the video here are using that technology. it's likely a much cheaper, lower efficacy LED array. I'd say around 60-80 lumens per watt, which would give us a luminous flux at peak power of 3,000 to 4,000 lumens peak output. Comparable numbers to a 55w Xenon kit which is only a few hundred lumens brighter. But that's just going by the rating on the seller's page. The fact these lamps weren't even as bright as a 55w halogen tells me that they're likely 20 or 30w modules, which if we're generous here and say they are 30w, have an 80 lumen per watt efficacy only put out 2400 lumens. that's right on par with a decent 55w halogen which is generally around the 35-45 lumens per watt range and put out around 2500 or so lumens!
True. Even some cheaper LED modules can achieve as high as 90 but to get 100-120 LPW requires a decent quality LED die and very little phosphor. It's why those fancy dancy new LED street lights (which at this time are complete shite) have poor colour rendering and have a terrible colour to them. They achieve up to 115 lumens per watt but at the cost of having a weird greenish blue tint to them that makes everything lit by them look dead. if you added more phosphor to the LEDs then you get a warmer colour temperature, using a decent phosphor blend also increases the colour rendering *BUT* it also trashes the efficacy. You'll be closer to 90 or 80 lumens per watt for a warmer colour temp/high CRI LED, which isn't hard to beat with a 150w high pressure sodium or ceramic metal halide lamp as they can have up to 115 lumen per watt efficacies.
I'm pretty sure they reach about half of the lumens of halogen. The human eye is logarythmic; if the beneficiary saw them as beingh slightly dimmer, it is probably a little beyond half the brightness.
I installed four of these beamtech leds bulbs. Two headlights and two fog lights, together they put out a sufficient amount of light and make my vehicle look much nicer then the stock halogen bulbs. If you have fog lights i would add them to get more brightness.
I had purchased these led’s before I seen your Video. They were for a 2007 Pontiac G6 I Purchased them because one of the headlights blew out. The reason I purchased them was because a reliable RUclips channel That reviews only LED headlights stated that they were about 70% brighter than the standard halogen bulb. While I do not think they’re 70% brighter but there is somewhat of a difference. They do have a good Beam pattern as compared to a lot of LED headlights even the more expensive ones have unusable beam pattern . I am happy with my lights no they are not super bright 300 times Helen turn or anything like that but they are brighter color tone is good they were cheap and they were true plug and play headlights. And they will last a lot longer than halogen so for $35 I am happy with my purchase.
These are FINE. These ate made for REFLECTIVE housings not PROJECTOR housings. Thats why the light output is bad. In a reflective housing they will look WAY better. Its your headlight housing not the bulb....
a led lamp is 5 times more emmisive per watt compared to halogen, the 25w is like 125 halogen ! on my passat with crapy reflector system the difference was double light with leds of 20 euros
an led bulb not specifically designed for projector (which 99% aren't) will just turn into a flood light once installed, they tend to lack a hotspot for distance illumination.
A little plastic polish on the clear lens will help your beam. LED bulbs are brighter, but you need to check the wattage and number of led emitters. I bought 3x bright bulbs with three emitters. They have cooling fans but no big control box like some others. They are very bright!
i have found that projector headlights tend to work better with HID vs LED. It just depends on the projector headlight. LED lights do work way better than halogen bulbs. i did a swap on my mustang and there is a very big difference.
In fact there is a difference in life span. To begin with the halogen - they have roughly 400-500 hours of live. On the other hand the LED have ~10 000 hours of life. The other thing is the wave length of the light coming out. In my personal opinion the LED looks better to the eye and is more effective on the road even if the lighted area is the same, there are definitely more Lumens per in^2.
in LEDs it's usually the driver that fails before the diode. Cheap drivers have nowhere near the lifespan of the LEDs themselves. Mine are still ok though.
You may try to remove odd hard yellow layer over headlight. You may try to change the orientation of bulb. Try to recalibrate low and high beams height
Hi, After installation do a aim adjustment where you need to aim the two lights for greater visibility. When choosing led choose from a well know brand would help a lot. 8000 lumens should be totally enough even high end new cars get 4000 lumens bulbs but they so good. Pls pay attention to the adjustments on light height and stuff because if proper alignment isn't done light gets diffraction and some dark spots will be created. If that's don't work light should be not to standards. Hope this helps. :)
Here’s what you should do: 1- cleaning the headlight 2- aiming them, they seem a bit low, and according to the IIHS: “Poor headlight performance […] is often due to poor headlight aiming at the factory.” 3- try some high end halogen bulbs. And be aware that halogen bulbs loose performance gradually. So even if thy work, you might only have half the performances.
NO! Do not aim your LED headlights higher. The problem is already that an excessive amount of light shines to the sides instead of straight ahead so aiming them higher causes them to blind other drivers.
Stinky Cheese headlights should be aimed according to factory specs. If your aftermarket led bulbs spread too much lights were it’s not supposed to, don’t use them. I personally don’t like xenon or LED in halogen reflectors.
Very good video. Straight to the point and I completely agree, theres no difference. People have this conception that LEDs are brigher than halogen because they are a different color temperature. Instead of yellowish light they are blue-ish light. And it leads them to think it's brighter. In MOST cases, its not. They are more efficient,and but generally not much brighter. Human eyes are used to halogen color temps. The sun is also a similar color temperature and that's why. I wish some people would understand that the higher (blue) color temperature of LEDs is actually straining your eyes. I stick with my halogens.
Completely agree! There are two benefits to LEDs however - lifespan (hopefully, unless the driver fails) and the peripheral illumination, at least in my case.
You are just as much of a parrot as those people. The issue is DESIGN, not output. Even real shitty LED bulbs output as much as halogen. The issue is design. Well engineered LED bulbs will curb stomp halogen and even best HID. Look for comprehensive reviews. Morimoto and GTR lighting kits will shit on stock halogen.
The problem may come from 8000 lumens being the total brightness, each bulb is advertised 4000 lumens. Another user, @TheSOXMania did put some good calculations in their comment. I won’t question anything said though, as I haven’t had tried these bulbs myself. I purchased some and I’ll insert my input later.
The only advantage to LED headlights is their longevity. There are issues with flickering or them being too bright with some models, I've read online. It all depends on the build quality of the LED bulb and also the car in question, I guess. However, in about 5 to 10 years, LED headlights will be the standard and norm and old halogens will be the dinosaur relic.
Guess the only benefit would be about 50 watts in savings (or about 10% of 1HP) that the alternator doesn't have to do work for and potentially a light you won't have to change for a long long time. I'm also going to guess that's about 1/4 to 1/2 MPG cruising at 45mph, giving that you are using from 10hp to 20hp to sustain the speed. I was fast and loose with the math lol.
50% False. Housings are engineered for the specific bulb type. If you insert the other types the beam patter WILL change. Check out a review with multiple types in the same housing.
Nope i tried 2 types of leds the led helios h11 and they're not 12000 and now i have katana h11 led bulbs and there's a huge difference the katana is a lot better ( projectors on my 2018 toyota tacoma)
I used the same brand LEDs in my old 2005 civic and it made a huge difference in brightness so the first thing I did when I bought my 2018 civic a few days ago was order these headlights again and they look way better than the stock halogen.
Danny Rodriguez Oquendo I haven’t noticed a difference as far as light direction. Hopefully that’s what you meant lol. It pretty much is the same as the halogens just a cooler look and a little brighter
I have them in my 2014 Silverado and they are brighter especially with the high beams. I will sometimes not even use the high beams because they are bright.
Theres one other big advantage to going LED over halogen- The running hours. Almost *all* of my driving in my vehicle is at night- And when most halogen bulbs are rated for 500-1000 running hours, it actually doesnt take that long to go through them. LED lights will (normally) last dozens of times longer than halogen- and are worth it from that perspective alone to me.
SidewaysGts sure lasts longer, but the lower end market leds tend to be brighter than halogens up close but the distance falls steeper and gets less brighter than halogens. Need to pick up the expensive leds to be better all around.
I sent beamtech email maken sure I was ordering correct bulbs... they told me if I bought the bulbs off of Amazon and left them with a 5-star rating they would reimburse me through PayPal for the bulbs so now it's hard for me to believe anything on the internet in regards to these LED bulbs
I think it matters on which lights you get, I recently bought 30 dollar LED lights for my Honda Pilot and I had to buy a new pair because they were too bright.
Those Phillips ZES LED bulbs are not low quality. They are just made for open beam headlights. Sir, you need do your research before calling them cheap. I've had Phillips ZES LED bulbs in my open beam headlights and they work great. I have 360 degree LED bulbs in my projectors for my Intgera and those work great.
I agree I bought the same Beamtech bulbs in the H4 style for my Honda CR-V. They are barely better if at all than the stock Halogen bulbs. They are whiter for sure but the visibility doesn’t seem any better.
This is why you must always use a brand that knows the industry and has a passion for it. Amazon has many sellers that simply want to push push push and sell stuff but never really understand what the industry is looking for nor what they need. Only at JDM ASTAR does this technology actually get researched, innovated, and improved. Good work on the channel, Joseph!
i have LED in my car regular head light and its super bright people basically hate me and i had to point my head light down a bit so people would stop flashing there high beams at me. i put the same lights in my dads car with projector head light (same light bulb) and there barley brighter then the halogens.LED light are not to good if you have projection head lights
I swapped from HID to LED cuz HIDS gave me issues but with LEDs I would say they are more practical to use than and chances are if you get a pair that are more expensive the results will be better, in my experience I got 2 pairs of LEDs for $386 over the counter at an audio shop and they work fantastic, much better than the stock halogens
i used some cheap 36w ones with 3 side leds, i get a lot more light on low, high beam shows a bit more but not like a huge difference from halogen, also i need to align my headlights to fix the light a bit lower so i won't disturb other drivers
4000lm is too weak... you need 55w led's with 9000lm each. I have changed 55w halogen bulbs to 55w led's and they made huge difference, wider illumination and didn't caused glare effect. So happy with them.
Not a good comparison. Halogens are usually 3000k-4300k. If you’re looking for your lights to be brighter, you should have got 5k or 6K LEDS. Anything higher than 6K will lose light visibility for color. Hope this helps.
I bought more expensive LEDs from Auxbeam. There was a good difference. My friend bought cheap ones and had bad luck because they broke and weren’t very good. They work great and aren’t too blinding. I think the moral is to not cheap put when it comes to headlights. Thanks for a great video!
These exact 6 chip fanless are great for fog lights so they won't be blinding but not good for low beams, for low beams I highly recommend the 12 seoul chip fanned set those are as bright as HID I'll upload a video showing the output soon and have those for sale on eBay.
Never believe these high lumen claims from cheap led kits. Really? 8k lumens for $30? A little ridiculous if you ask me. A good HID kit is still the way to go. Especially one from morimoto at the Retrofit source. Even better when you do a proper projector retrofit. Leds still don’t have the full 360 degree all around light output such as halogens and hids which can lead to a poor light pattern, cutoff and hotspot for down road visibility. My 2 cents. You get what you pay for when it comes to lighting.
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XHDYTGL I think you are wrong mate, if you follow the link provided from the description (as above),this is what greets you :- "BEAMTECH H11 LED Headlight Bulb, 50W 6500K 8000Lumens Extremely Brigh H8 H9 CSP Chips Conversion Kit" Peace. Later guys.
Just got scammed on ebay with similar lights, but received a full refund within hours. I measured that the lights are pulling 1 Amp, so at 12 volts it means they have a power of 12 watts. This means they are only producing about 800 Lumen.
I have LED headlight in my Pontiac Vibe that are NOT projector headlights (reflector) and they work perfect. They have a clear cut off pattern and work great on highbeam also. I installed cheap LEDs in both of my motorcycles, which are also reflector headlights and they out perform the old Halogens. So there are some great LED headlight out there for around $35 but you just have to find them. I found a lot of LEDs that were just bright as hell, but had a poor light pattern to them.
you can put 1000 W bulbs and you will obtain the same results ! Your headlights are damaged and the light is scattered because the glass which is amde by polistyren is old and milions of little cracks are inside - new socks in old shoes ! You must know that thw efficency of a headlight is in the quantity of reflected light by the obstacle so even the appearance of light is the same the wavelenght of light make the difference !
I have these as Drl /Hi beam in a previous generation Accord almost similar to the one shown above. They work perfect. I have HID for low beam. I want to change the lo beam to led at some point
Keep in mind that the LED "bulb" section produces little or no heat compared to the halogen or incandescent bulbs. In colder climates that means your headlights may end up snowing or icing over, be prepared to get out with a snowbrush from time to time to clear them off.
No, there are 2 differences: the LED chips are getting hot and they need to dissipate the heat to not get beyond 85 celsius (it shorten the lifespan drastically); but the halogen goes to more than 300 celsius! The LED light itself contain no heat, actually no INFRARED, only visible light; which in itself has some heating power but very little (if the chip is for example 20W, ONLY about 5W will be radiated in the front as light, and the rest of 15W will go backwards to the heatsink)
If the maximum recommend power rating is 55W then you should a LED which uses 50-55W per bulb. That can provide an output of 6000-8000lumens per bulb. I have done few upgrades for my car and friend's cars all with projector style housing and the upgrade was very much worth it.
Don't mean to turn anyone down here but if you truly want LED bulbs on a vehicle then get a car with factory equipped LEDs(all new ones will have them someday anyway). Headlights is like a pair of prescription glasses which everything needs to be lined up optically correct. It may look brighter but distant objects will not be illuminated properly. Have to say that LED bulbs works great on other locations such as parking/interior lights and I highly recommend them.
Well, I spent $60 on 4 LED lights and they are as bright as the batman car. In fact, I have to be careful how I use the high beams as they can blind someone in front of me
@@santiagomoreno696 Correct. I have these LEDs in my reflector housing and they are WAY brighter than my old halogens! I can see the light beaming off of reflective signs during the day time.
also on them types of led the diodes should be pointed left and right thats why now they have led lights where you can adjust the collar so u can get the diodes to be laft and right not up and down because up and down you lose a lot of light output
Chinese LED's are like Chines batteries. Manufacturers claims are 100% BS. 8000Lm and 10000Hrs (claimed), 800LM and 100Hrs (actual), Li Ion 8000mAh (claimed), 800mHh (actual), if you are lucky.
Well, they're dimmer than OEM halogens, so I can't consider them an upgrade. The only reason to like them is that they might last longer than halogen bulbs and they cost the same
Only reason I am getting the LED HB3 9005 for my Acura is to match the color of DRL to my low beams and fog lights as well... If there is no improvement on visibility vs halogen, there is much better longevity of LEDs and also color matching experience. Whoever wants improvement over halogen should go for bi-xenon hid conversion kit.
Haha awesome! Luckily you have projectors that make sure the bean pattern is consistent. In refractor headlights, these are terrible and actually quite dangerous as the light doesn’t go as far and just creates closer, brighter light.
Try fitting a relay harness n new set of halogens...philips xtrmvision works better..u wil dfntly see d differnc..u cn also try 130/90w if u hv metal reflectors...
You cant rag on a particular LED bulb just because it didnt work for you. I have Beamtech bulbs on my Silverado and its damn near daylight at night. I had to really make sure they were aimed properly because I didnt want to blind anyone on the road. Theyre super bright. I love them. Plus you put them in projectors. Did you buy bulbs specifically for projectors or whatever matched your cars bulb fitment? Lastly, clean your headlight up a little bit. It would make a huge difference.
Heres the actual guide for you. Buy a cutout wiring kit phillips may cost you $30, buy a pair of phillips H4 rally 130/100 halogens cost $20, fix them and then get the headlights aligned from any tire alignment centre cost about $10, and now youll have lights to look atleast 200 meters in just $60. Ask a good mechanic or a real rally driver and they shall swear by this arrangement.
The problem with upgrading bulbs in halogen projectors is that the shape of the beam wont take advantage of the extra light. Yes Halogen and HID projectors are different. If you put a brighter bulb into halogen housings then you will have a more output, but it all all focused where you could already see just fine. This extra bight area will only reduce your own night vision. IMO just stick to halogen. Dont be the guinnea pig for LED bulbs. Lots of people on youtube are doing comparisons and make recommendations based on your headlight design.
Nah. Many people WANT more light in the cone. Halogen cone output is a joke, now. Plus, the more light ELSEWHERE means the more other people see. That is what many people want to avoid. Many people, like myself, just want what should have been mandated, by now.
If u wanna see more at night but need more light than purchase the nokya 5000k 55watt blue coat halogen bulb...they work amazing and u can see the road
Ive bought 4 sets of this brand LED headlights for an 08 Silverado and 18 Ford Tranist Work Van. Both with regular headlamp assemblies. Ive noticed a difference in both vehicles... dont go by this stupid video.
You do realize your "Regular" headlamps are Reflectors, and he has Projectors. Reflectors reflect the light outward, while Projectors project the light. Reflectors will almost always be brighter than projectors with halogens, LED's are the same story. That's why it is recommended to use HID's in projector housings for maximum light output. Never use HID's in a reflector housing, the light will scatter everywhere, and you will blind everyone. Plus not all LED's mimic the original halogen beam pattern, and light could scatter all over the place and blind others, in projectors, there will be little to no light scatter most of the time. Don't call his video stupid if you aren't educated yourself.
Just because they appear to be brighter doesn't always mean they are , there not focused right in a reflector some leds are getting better but still need to be aimed down a bit to avoid dazzling others
Most buy LED for a few reasons.... 1. Looks. Much nicer and whiter than yellowish light that halogens produce. 2. Bulb lasts longer. Under most circumstances. 3. Cheaper than whighter halogens (silverstars, etc. Which only last a year or so.) I have the same brand LED in my Pontiac G8. They are 3x brighter than any halogens ive used in the past (oem, silverstar ultras, etc). It all depends what type headlight housings your car has. (Projectors, reflective, etc.) Note...some projectors/ headlights reflect differently from others. (Sometimes the bulbs need to be rotated. do some Research on google) or 4 sided leds are the remedy.
The 8000 lumens figure you're getting is for all chips combined in both low and high beam. It's not a real-world figure, and not even a realistic figure.. it's there to massage the seller's ego, that's all.
Why do so many of these LED kits do 6500k just for bluish looks???? The colder the temp the less light output you'll get at any wattage. They should be 5 to 6k or anywhere in between. Daylight is not 6500k.
theRealAV8r I have a H4 type in my car, and the color output is closer to 5500K than the 6500K advertised. I barely see any blue hue compared to the other Chinese LED kits I've had.
Good question! they're fine at night, but not in the rain. Due to white light being absorbed by water molecules (that's why fog lights are yellow) these lights don't illuminate as good as "yellower" halogens. I'd stay away from cheap chinese LEDs if you want to upgrade.
LEDs suck in general. That blue tint on the road to strain your eyes and washed out light in bad weather is horrible. If you have halogen housings go with some Philips Crystal Vision or Xtreme Vision. If you have projectors get a 55 watt 5000k HID kit.
Must be nice being able to change your bulbs without having to take the bumper off
Tell that to GM.
HHR owner?
Accord coupe here. I gotta remove the bumper and headlight assemblies to replace mine too.
So damn easy for my Toyota too. Unplug, replug and it's done.
Toyota Boyz where you at ? 😂 I just had to unplug and plug in less than 5 minutes and I was done.
I bought the ones with fans for my Subaru Impreza. Worked great, and they were already aligned. So I'm pretty happy.
I just put Auxbeam LEDs in my '92 Mustang in the stock housings. Dramatic difference, sharp cutoff, doesn't blind oncoming drivers. Very happy with these. The cheap LEDs throw light everywhere, the difference between cheap and expensive is the light pattern.
Those may be 8,000 lumens, but you need a light meter to be sure.
A common problem some overlook is that it’s the YELLOW in white light that helps us see at night. Colored bulbs that mimic HID lights are filtering out the yellow which means you need a lot more lumens to see the same as halogen bulbs produce.
LEDs are designed to give off a specific color temperature which might work against the desired result. The bulb is brighter but less effective at night.
HIDs get around this by putting out pure white light. Even if it looks blue, the yellow content is there and in greater amounts.
So the test isn’t lumens unless the color temperature of a bulb matches OEM spec. Then you’ll see the difference. The only exception (from my research) is to go HID.
Headlights look cloudy. You may need to restore them.
Going by efficacy numbers and pitting them against 1: a comparible gas discharge lamp (90 watt low pressure sodium) and 2: the current industry maximum for an LED chip and a 55w halogen we get some interesting results.
The stated luminous flux of these lamps is 8000 lumens. If we divide that by the advertised 50 watts, that's 160 lumens per watt.
This puts it 10 lumens per watt higher than a 90 watt low pressure sodium lamp if we believe the figures (13,500 lumens with a 150 lumen per watt efficacy)
Now for the important bit: The high end LED industry...
The absolute best of the best LED technologies struggle to muster 100 lumens per watt. this is still a VERY impressive efficacy figure but I HIGHLY doubt that the makers of the LED headlamps in the video here are using that technology. it's likely a much cheaper, lower efficacy LED array. I'd say around 60-80 lumens per watt, which would give us a luminous flux at peak power of 3,000 to 4,000 lumens peak output. Comparable numbers to a 55w Xenon kit which is only a few hundred lumens brighter.
But that's just going by the rating on the seller's page. The fact these lamps weren't even as bright as a 55w halogen tells me that they're likely 20 or 30w modules, which if we're generous here and say they are 30w, have an 80 lumen per watt efficacy only put out 2400 lumens. that's right on par with a decent 55w halogen which is generally around the 35-45 lumens per watt range and put out around 2500 or so lumens!
Yumseen Australia has achieved 106.6lm/w
True. Even some cheaper LED modules can achieve as high as 90 but to get 100-120 LPW requires a decent quality LED die and very little phosphor. It's why those fancy dancy new LED street lights (which at this time are complete shite) have poor colour rendering and have a terrible colour to them. They achieve up to 115 lumens per watt but at the cost of having a weird greenish blue tint to them that makes everything lit by them look dead. if you added more phosphor to the LEDs then you get a warmer colour temperature, using a decent phosphor blend also increases the colour rendering *BUT* it also trashes the efficacy. You'll be closer to 90 or 80 lumens per watt for a warmer colour temp/high CRI LED, which isn't hard to beat with a 150w high pressure sodium or ceramic metal halide lamp as they can have up to 115 lumen per watt efficacies.
TheSOXMania I believe these are 25 watt each, not 55
If you measure them, I bet they'll be 6-10W each...
I'm pretty sure they reach about half of the lumens of halogen. The human eye is logarythmic; if the beneficiary saw them as beingh slightly dimmer, it is probably a little beyond half the brightness.
I installed four of these beamtech leds bulbs. Two headlights and two fog lights, together they put out a sufficient amount of light and make my vehicle look much nicer then the stock halogen bulbs. If you have fog lights i would add them to get more brightness.
But most people wouldn’t want to turn on their fog lights just because their headlights aren’t bright enough.
I had purchased these led’s before I seen your Video. They were for a 2007 Pontiac G6 I Purchased them because one of the headlights blew out. The reason I purchased them was because a reliable RUclips channel That reviews only LED headlights stated that they were about 70% brighter than the standard halogen bulb. While I do not think they’re 70% brighter but there is somewhat of a difference. They do have a good Beam pattern as compared to a lot of LED headlights even the more expensive ones have unusable beam pattern . I am happy with my lights no they are not super bright 300 times Helen turn or anything like that but they are brighter color tone is good they were cheap and they were true plug and play headlights. And they will last a lot longer than halogen so for $35 I am happy with my purchase.
These are FINE. These ate made for REFLECTIVE housings not PROJECTOR housings. Thats why the light output is bad. In a reflective housing they will look WAY better. Its your headlight housing not the bulb....
a led lamp is 5 times more emmisive per watt compared to halogen, the 25w is like 125 halogen ! on my passat with crapy reflector system the difference was double light with leds of 20 euros
They also use a lot less power, putting less of a load onto your alternator.
an led bulb not specifically designed for projector (which 99% aren't) will just turn into a flood light once installed, they tend to lack a hotspot for distance illumination.
I LOVE BeamTech!! Holy Cow are these amazing! They throw light so far and wide. Super bright too. I don't even find myself needing highbeams.
If they throw the light that far, maybe they are not in the right angle so they project the light higher the low beams are supposed to?
A little plastic polish on the clear lens will help your beam. LED bulbs are brighter, but you need to check the wattage and number of led emitters. I bought 3x bright bulbs with three emitters. They have cooling fans but no big control box like some others. They are very bright!
i have found that projector headlights tend to work better with HID vs LED. It just depends on the projector headlight. LED lights do work way better than halogen bulbs. i did a swap on my mustang and there is a very big difference.
In fact there is a difference in life span. To begin with the halogen - they have roughly 400-500 hours of live. On the other hand the LED have ~10 000 hours of life. The other thing is the wave length of the light coming out. In my personal opinion the LED looks better to the eye and is more effective on the road even if the lighted area is the same, there are definitely more Lumens per in^2.
in LEDs it's usually the driver that fails before the diode. Cheap drivers have nowhere near the lifespan of the LEDs themselves. Mine are still ok though.
You may try to remove odd hard yellow layer over headlight. You may try to change the orientation of bulb. Try to recalibrate low and high beams height
That brand was a great up grade on my 2004 GMC Sierra, much brighter and very good light pattern. The price was $32, with a discount
Hi,
After installation do a aim adjustment where you need to aim the two lights for greater visibility.
When choosing led choose from a well know brand would help a lot. 8000 lumens should be totally enough even high end new cars get 4000 lumens bulbs but they so good.
Pls pay attention to the adjustments on light height and stuff because if proper alignment isn't done light gets diffraction and some dark spots will be created. If that's don't work light should be not to standards.
Hope this helps. :)
Here’s what you should do:
1- cleaning the headlight
2- aiming them, they seem a bit low, and according to the IIHS: “Poor headlight performance […] is often due to poor headlight aiming at the factory.”
3- try some high end halogen bulbs. And be aware that halogen bulbs loose performance gradually. So even if thy work, you might only have half the performances.
NO! Do not aim your LED headlights higher. The problem is already that an excessive amount of light shines to the sides instead of straight ahead so aiming them higher causes them to blind other drivers.
Stinky Cheese headlights should be aimed according to factory specs.
If your aftermarket led bulbs spread too much lights were it’s not supposed to, don’t use them.
I personally don’t like xenon or LED in halogen reflectors.
Good thing his headlights aren't reflectors then eh?
Very good video. Straight to the point and I completely agree, theres no difference. People have this conception that LEDs are brigher than halogen because they are a different color temperature. Instead of yellowish light they are blue-ish light. And it leads them to think it's brighter. In MOST cases, its not. They are more efficient,and but generally not much brighter.
Human eyes are used to halogen color temps. The sun is also a similar color temperature and that's why. I wish some people would understand that the higher (blue) color temperature of LEDs is actually straining your eyes. I stick with my halogens.
Completely agree! There are two benefits to LEDs however - lifespan (hopefully, unless the driver fails) and the peripheral illumination, at least in my case.
You are just as much of a parrot as those people. The issue is DESIGN, not output. Even real shitty LED bulbs output as much as halogen. The issue is design. Well engineered LED bulbs will curb stomp halogen and even best HID. Look for comprehensive reviews. Morimoto and GTR lighting kits will shit on stock halogen.
The problem may come from 8000 lumens being the total brightness, each bulb is advertised 4000 lumens. Another user, @TheSOXMania did put some good calculations in their comment.
I won’t question anything said though, as I haven’t had tried these bulbs myself. I purchased some and I’ll insert my input later.
The only advantage to LED headlights is their longevity. There are issues with flickering or them being too bright with some models, I've read online. It all depends on the build quality of the LED bulb and also the car in question, I guess. However, in about 5 to 10 years, LED headlights will be the standard and norm and old halogens will be the dinosaur relic.
I have a 360 degree LED (3 sides) for my Integra projector and the light output is excellent. Two-sided LED bulbs are only for an open beam headlight.
Guess the only benefit would be about 50 watts in savings (or about 10% of 1HP) that the alternator doesn't have to do work for and potentially a light you won't have to change for a long long time. I'm also going to guess that's about 1/4 to 1/2 MPG cruising at 45mph, giving that you are using from 10hp to 20hp to sustain the speed. I was fast and loose with the math lol.
The light beam pattern is the result of the reflector design, not bulb type.
50% False. Housings are engineered for the specific bulb type. If you insert the other types the beam patter WILL change. Check out a review with multiple types in the same housing.
Nope i tried 2 types of leds the led helios h11 and they're not 12000 and now i have katana h11 led bulbs and there's a huge difference the katana is a lot better ( projectors on my 2018 toyota tacoma)
Man you got me at the end! I was drinking juice when you said this 2:52
ha ha :) thanks. Listen, I'm not going to b.s. you if I'm disappointed in lights myself.
I hope you didn't spill that juice :)
I used the same brand LEDs in my old 2005 civic and it made a huge difference in brightness so the first thing I did when I bought my 2018 civic a few days ago was order these headlights again and they look way better than the stock halogen.
Pyro Angel do they offer a proper beam cutoff since the LED chip stands in the same spot as the filament in the halogen?
Danny Rodriguez Oquendo I haven’t noticed a difference as far as light direction. Hopefully that’s what you meant lol. It pretty much is the same as the halogens just a cooler look and a little brighter
Great response.
I have them in my 2014 Silverado and they are brighter especially with the high beams. I will sometimes not even use the high beams because they are bright.
Had exactly the same problem Nicer look, but very poor light output on the road. Best way HID kit, still the best upgrade.
Theres one other big advantage to going LED over halogen-
The running hours.
Almost *all* of my driving in my vehicle is at night- And when most halogen bulbs are rated for 500-1000 running hours, it actually doesnt take that long to go through them. LED lights will (normally) last dozens of times longer than halogen- and are worth it from that perspective alone to me.
SidewaysGts sure lasts longer, but the lower end market leds tend to be brighter than halogens up close but the distance falls steeper and gets less brighter than halogens. Need to pick up the expensive leds to be better all around.
I sent beamtech email maken sure I was ordering correct bulbs... they told me if I bought the bulbs off of Amazon and left them with a 5-star rating they would reimburse me through PayPal for the bulbs so now it's hard for me to believe anything on the internet in regards to these LED bulbs
I think it matters on which lights you get, I recently bought 30 dollar LED lights for my Honda Pilot and I had to buy a new pair because they were too bright.
Those Phillips ZES LED bulbs are not low quality. They are just made for open beam headlights. Sir, you need do your research before calling them cheap.
I've had Phillips ZES LED bulbs in my open beam headlights and they work great. I have 360 degree LED bulbs in my projectors for my Intgera and those work great.
I agree I bought the same Beamtech bulbs in the H4 style for my Honda CR-V. They are barely better if at all than the stock Halogen bulbs. They are whiter for sure but the visibility doesn’t seem any better.
This is why you must always use a brand that knows the industry and has a passion for it. Amazon has many sellers that simply want to push push push and sell stuff but never really understand what the industry is looking for nor what they need. Only at JDM ASTAR does this technology actually get researched, innovated, and improved. Good work on the channel, Joseph!
Your headlights look like they’re aimed too low. At least that’s how it looks while you were driving. What kind of vehicle was this?
i have LED in my car regular head light and its super bright people basically hate me and i had to point my head light down a bit so people would stop flashing there high beams at me. i put the same lights in my dads car with projector head light (same light bulb) and there barley brighter then the halogens.LED light are not to good if you have projection head lights
I swapped from HID to LED cuz HIDS gave me issues but with LEDs I would say they are more practical to use than and chances are if you get a pair that are more expensive the results will be better, in my experience I got 2 pairs of LEDs for $386 over the counter at an audio shop and they work fantastic, much better than the stock halogens
i used some cheap 36w ones with 3 side leds, i get a lot more light on low, high beam shows a bit more but not like a huge difference from halogen, also i need to align my headlights to fix the light a bit lower so i won't disturb other drivers
4000lm is too weak... you need 55w led's with 9000lm each. I have changed 55w halogen bulbs to 55w led's and they made huge difference, wider illumination and didn't caused glare effect. So happy with them.
I keep telling people to put HID and NOT LED in halogen projectors but no one listens.
That's why I like my Lexus HID all the way
Not a good comparison. Halogens are usually 3000k-4300k. If you’re looking for your lights to be brighter, you should have got 5k or 6K LEDS. Anything higher than 6K will lose light visibility for color. Hope this helps.
I've noticed that your headlights are a little dirty on the inside , I believe your loosing some light there
roche wijnaar yes, there's some oxidation. Camera amplifies it. It's not actually noticeable with a naked eye. Good observation though!
WTF does "loosing" mean ? You should have gone to school the day they taught spelling.
Dareis Nogod if you didn't understand what I meant in this sentence your f***ing IQ needs a recheck, the guy that made the video got it 😒
hhh,we can sell the headlight lens covers of many models,make your headlight more cleaner
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I bought more expensive LEDs from Auxbeam. There was a good difference. My friend bought cheap ones and had bad luck because they broke and weren’t very good. They work great and aren’t too blinding. I think the moral is to not cheap put when it comes to headlights. Thanks for a great video!
These exact 6 chip fanless are great for fog lights so they won't be blinding but not good for low beams, for low beams I highly recommend the 12 seoul chip fanned set those are as bright as HID I'll upload a video showing the output soon and have those for sale on eBay.
Never believe these high lumen claims from cheap led kits. Really? 8k lumens for $30? A little ridiculous if you ask me.
A good HID kit is still the way to go. Especially one from morimoto at the Retrofit source. Even better when you do a proper projector retrofit.
Leds still don’t have the full 360 degree all around light output such as halogens and hids which can lead to a poor light pattern, cutoff and hotspot for down road visibility.
My 2 cents. You get what you pay for when it comes to lighting.
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XHDYTGL
I think you are wrong mate, if you follow the link provided from the description (as above),this is what greets you :-
"BEAMTECH H11 LED Headlight Bulb, 50W 6500K 8000Lumens Extremely Brigh H8 H9 CSP Chips Conversion Kit"
Peace. Later guys.
Just got scammed on ebay with similar lights, but received a full refund within hours. I measured that the lights are pulling 1 Amp, so at 12 volts it means they have a power of 12 watts. This means they are only producing about 800 Lumen.
I have LED headlight in my Pontiac Vibe that are NOT projector headlights (reflector) and they work perfect. They have a clear cut off pattern and work great on highbeam also. I installed cheap LEDs in both of my motorcycles, which are also reflector headlights and they out perform the old Halogens. So there are some great LED headlight out there for around $35 but you just have to find them. I found a lot of LEDs that were just bright as hell, but had a poor light pattern to them.
The problem is you can buy a very expensive one and it still doesn't make any difference. Usually factory OEM is the best
Just try to install simple Phillips H9 it may required some modifications but you will get 2100 lm compare to H11 with 1350lm
you can put 1000 W bulbs and you will obtain the same results ! Your headlights are damaged and the light is scattered because the glass which is amde by polistyren is old and milions of little cracks are inside - new socks in old shoes !
You must know that thw efficency of a headlight is in the quantity of reflected light by the obstacle so even the appearance of light is the same the wavelenght of light make the difference !
I have these as Drl /Hi beam in a previous generation Accord almost similar to the one shown above. They work perfect. I have HID for low beam. I want to change the lo beam to led at some point
Keep in mind that the LED "bulb" section produces little or no heat compared to the halogen or incandescent bulbs. In colder climates that means your headlights may end up snowing or icing over, be prepared to get out with a snowbrush from time to time to clear them off.
I thought so too, but actually LEDs produce more heat! That's why they're all sold with heat sinks, and most of them have fans.
No, there are 2 differences: the LED chips are getting hot and they need to dissipate the heat to not get beyond 85 celsius (it shorten the lifespan drastically); but the halogen goes to more than 300 celsius! The LED light itself contain no heat, actually no INFRARED, only visible light; which in itself has some heating power but very little (if the chip is for example 20W, ONLY about 5W will be radiated in the front as light, and the rest of 15W will go backwards to the heatsink)
Those LED chips produce 250 lumens each. At most. It means each bulb makes not more than 1250 lumens. 4000 lumens is bullshit.
If the maximum recommend power rating is 55W then you should a LED which uses 50-55W per bulb. That can provide an output of 6000-8000lumens per bulb. I have done few upgrades for my car and friend's cars all with projector style housing and the upgrade was very much worth it.
Are you running DRL instead of low beam?
DRL in this car are reflector high beams on low power. Low beams are projectors - that's what I replaced with LEDs
Hmmm that’s right , same problem with Cheap HID kits
Don't mean to turn anyone down here but if you truly want LED bulbs on a vehicle then get a car with factory equipped LEDs(all new ones will have them someday anyway). Headlights is like a pair of prescription glasses which everything needs to be lined up optically correct. It may look brighter but distant objects will not be illuminated properly. Have to say that LED bulbs works great on other locations such as parking/interior lights and I highly recommend them.
You need to get 12k lumens are higher. I just installed 20k lumens and I am in love.
Well, I spent $60 on 4 LED lights and they are as bright as the batman car. In fact, I have to be careful how I use the high beams as they can blind someone in front of me
These particular LEDs are not made for projectors!
So, made for reflectors instead?
@@santiagomoreno696 Correct. I have these LEDs in my reflector housing and they are WAY brighter than my old halogens! I can see the light beaming off of reflective signs during the day time.
Why arent they? His oem bulb had a glove on the tip, emitting light only around on the edge. That's exactly what the leds do
I just ordered these and yep i have projectors so i guess i made the wrong choice 🙄
also on them types of led the diodes should be pointed left and right thats why now they have led lights where you can adjust the collar so u can get the diodes to be laft and right not up and down because up and down you lose a lot of light output
same. the color obviously looks better, but the lighting is either the same or maybe a little less than the stock halogen in my tacoma.
Illegal in Australia unless the vehicle came manufactured with them as standard. Better to buy a set of Lightforce spotties if you need good lighting
Chinese LED's are like Chines batteries. Manufacturers claims are 100% BS. 8000Lm and 10000Hrs (claimed), 800LM and 100Hrs (actual), Li Ion 8000mAh (claimed), 800mHh (actual), if you are lucky.
These bulbs are around 1000lm, max 1500lm from that construction and led diodes.
Jobathano that's what it looks like
Thank you for an honest evaluation!
are you sure your beam angle is properly set?
Thank you for an honest review.
So do you like them or not? Your video makes it sound like you do but your description makes it sound like you don't like them.
Well, they're dimmer than OEM halogens, so I can't consider them an upgrade. The only reason to like them is that they might last longer than halogen bulbs and they cost the same
LED technology has reached a point where it can exceed the brightest HID lighting. Seen it for my own eyes at Yumseen Australia.
Cheap LED looked worse than halogen because you lost the focused brightness in the middle with Halogen
Mine work fine and are far superior to my old halogens...
Only reason I am getting the LED HB3 9005 for my Acura is to match the color of DRL to my low beams and fog lights as well... If there is no improvement on visibility vs halogen, there is much better longevity of LEDs and also color matching experience. Whoever wants improvement over halogen should go for bi-xenon hid conversion kit.
Haha awesome! Luckily you have projectors that make sure the bean pattern is consistent. In refractor headlights, these are terrible and actually quite dangerous as the light doesn’t go as far and just creates closer, brighter light.
Try fitting a relay harness n new set of halogens...philips xtrmvision works better..u wil dfntly see d differnc..u cn also try 130/90w if u hv metal reflectors...
You cant rag on a particular LED bulb just because it didnt work for you. I have Beamtech bulbs on my Silverado and its damn near daylight at night. I had to really make sure they were aimed properly because I didnt want to blind anyone on the road. Theyre super bright. I love them. Plus you put them in projectors. Did you buy bulbs specifically for projectors or whatever matched your cars bulb fitment? Lastly, clean your headlight up a little bit. It would make a huge difference.
Heres the actual guide for you.
Buy a cutout wiring kit phillips may cost you $30, buy a pair of phillips H4 rally 130/100 halogens cost $20, fix them and then get the headlights aligned from any tire alignment centre cost about $10, and now youll have lights to look atleast 200 meters in just $60. Ask a good mechanic or a real rally driver and they shall swear by this arrangement.
great honesty comrade
Wow looks like Bane installed LEDs to his car..
The problem with upgrading bulbs in halogen projectors is that the shape of the beam wont take advantage of the extra light. Yes Halogen and HID projectors are different. If you put a brighter bulb into halogen housings then you will have a more output, but it all all focused where you could already see just fine. This extra bight area will only reduce your own night vision. IMO just stick to halogen. Dont be the guinnea pig for LED bulbs. Lots of people on youtube are doing comparisons and make recommendations based on your headlight design.
Nah. Many people WANT more light in the cone. Halogen cone output is a joke, now. Plus, the more light ELSEWHERE means the more other people see. That is what many people want to avoid.
Many people, like myself, just want what should have been mandated, by now.
I notice my first 8000 lumens led is brighter than the 9600 lumens. The 8000 is four sides, the 9600 is 2 side. Getting 16000 lumens 4 side next.
Everybody complaining that led's are not suited for projectors... But the ones in the new Toyota corolla (and other new vehicles) are perfectly fine.
ideaynojodas because they are stock and designed for LEDs...
Same with the Mazdas all coming with led's projectors and they are extremely bright
If u wanna see more at night but need more light than purchase the nokya 5000k 55watt blue coat halogen bulb...they work amazing and u can see the road
Thnx for the review I’ll stay with Hid’s
what about dust cover that you did not put back on
LED headlights just aren't there yet. HID is still the way to go!
i wouldnt recommend LED less then 80watts in any type of headlamp housing.
@2:50 that's why you read the instructions
Ive bought 4 sets of this brand LED headlights for an 08 Silverado and 18 Ford Tranist Work Van. Both with regular headlamp assemblies. Ive noticed a difference in both vehicles... dont go by this stupid video.
Marty Arrieta I'm about to put them in my 08 Silverado, glad to hear they look good!
So you recommend?
You do realize your "Regular" headlamps are Reflectors, and he has Projectors. Reflectors reflect the light outward, while Projectors project the light. Reflectors will almost always be brighter than projectors with halogens, LED's are the same story. That's why it is recommended to use HID's in projector housings for maximum light output. Never use HID's in a reflector housing, the light will scatter everywhere, and you will blind everyone. Plus not all LED's mimic the original halogen beam pattern, and light could scatter all over the place and blind others, in projectors, there will be little to no light scatter most of the time. Don't call his video stupid if you aren't educated yourself.
Just because they appear to be brighter doesn't always mean they are , there not focused right in a reflector some leds are getting better but still need to be aimed down a bit to avoid dazzling others
He has project or headlights that's the issues
Most buy LED for a few reasons....
1. Looks. Much nicer and whiter than yellowish light that halogens produce.
2. Bulb lasts longer. Under most circumstances.
3. Cheaper than whighter halogens (silverstars, etc. Which only last a year or so.)
I have the same brand LED in my Pontiac G8. They are 3x brighter than any halogens ive used in the past (oem, silverstar ultras, etc). It all depends what type headlight housings your car has. (Projectors, reflective, etc.) Note...some projectors/ headlights reflect differently from others. (Sometimes the bulbs need to be rotated. do some Research on google) or 4 sided leds are the remedy.
Polarity* LED's are diodes thus DC curreent can only travel in one direction, they're often used to prevent back current flow. #FYI
I got these for my moms Nissan Rogue and they are at least 2 to 3 times as bright. You can actually see shit with them
Good to know.
Is there really static noises on radio with bulbs that uses cooling fan?
These don't use cooling fans, however, I have since purchased few with fans, I don't notice any static noise.
The 8000 lumens figure you're getting is for all chips combined in both low and high beam. It's not a real-world figure, and not even a realistic figure.. it's there to massage the seller's ego, that's all.
I have this leds in my tahoe 2017 and there great
there's no optics/lens on the LED. it's cheap garbage. look for a little focusing ball on the diode itself for a quality light.
I've ordered these going to be doing a review this weekend on reflect or headlights I'll explain fully the difference
Why do so many of these LED kits do 6500k just for bluish looks???? The colder the temp the less light output you'll get at any wattage. They should be 5 to 6k or anywhere in between. Daylight is not 6500k.
theRealAV8r I have a H4 type in my car, and the color output is closer to 5500K than the 6500K advertised. I barely see any blue hue compared to the other Chinese LED kits I've had.
How's that night driving in the rain?
Good question! they're fine at night, but not in the rain. Due to white light being absorbed by water molecules (that's why fog lights are yellow) these lights don't illuminate as good as "yellower" halogens.
I'd stay away from cheap chinese LEDs if you want to upgrade.
LEDs suck in general. That blue tint on the road to strain your eyes and washed out light in bad weather is horrible. If you have halogen housings go with some Philips Crystal Vision or Xtreme Vision. If you have projectors get a 55 watt 5000k HID kit.