Throw a chain around the base of the stem and pull it out with the ATV. They make long gauntlet gloves specifically for rose growers and they have better dexterity than the welders gloves.
I concur! I get tired just by watching the work, but it is so much fun and so interesting to “do” this with you vicariously through RUclips. Thanks for taking us along on the journey.
I lived in the Northwest and we bought a neglected 5 acre farm. Our scourge was Himalayan blackberries which is worse than your rose if you can imagine! Our solution to eradicating it from our property was to bring in pigs. We made a portable pig pen and wherever we had cut back the blackberries we moved the pig pen around...they rooted out the roots and ate them as well as fertilizing the soil. It was an organic win win!
An easy low tech solution for me is using colored survey flags. I place them where I want to keep an eye on an invasive plant that I want to permanently get rid of. Every time I am in the garden, my attention is drawn to the flags as a reminder to check to see if anything is coming back. They come in a variety of bright colors and are about 18" high.
Good post. We are battling them constantly. This year I bought an electric Stihl saw and with the loppers been cutting them down. When they grow back up I plan to spray them. I have about 7 acres of forest and it is a challenge to get rid of these horrible things. I want to create a number of walking trails and we are making progress.
Thanks so much for this! Because of your video I thought what might be prarie roses in our new.yard is actually multiflora rose. It's pretty small in our yard now so we have the chance to stop it before it gets too bad! Good luck with your battle!
I am Soo happy I found your channel! We have this on our property as well I’m quite sure - it has definitely taken over in some areas- this was quite helpful! Thank you! Looking forward to more posts!! 🌲✨
Color coding the plant dots. A different color for each different plant on your map. Also when dealing with wild branches of multi flora and other brambly shrubs it’s good to wear glasses to protect eyes.
Just catching up on all the episodes and not sure if you guys have settled on a specific way to keep track of the invasives by now. In case you're still trying things - Avenza is pretty cool. I use it for fieldwork when I know I won't have reception. You'd obviously need your drone imagery georeferenced (which you might have already done anyways) and then you can upload any type of map, or in this case your drone imagery. As far as I understand it then would have similar tools available as maptiler. Loving your determination and that you guys have gone the steps to dive into this amazing lifestyle!
An awful problem! Just keep at it and you will win hard as that is. I'm loving watching your saga and really enjoying the updates you are sharing with us! Thanks Summer and Sander
Muliflora is very well suited to riparian situations , at least from my experience , therefore lakes or ponds are ideal property . In the South grazing animals control it best because it can be stoloniferous to some degree. One advantage to having a small amount is its great as rootstock for grafting and with nursery potential , practice grafting on it.
Yes, this is my nemesis! Some of our stands are so large that I have to use my chainsaw to bring them down. I then use an old pitchfork with tines bent at a 90 degree angle to rake the newly cut plants into a pile. I highly recommend heavy cotton long-sleeved work shirts -- the kind loggers wear. They're the best for getting unstuck while you work deep into the plant. We don't like burn piles because of the airborne particulate matter, so I try to build piles of multiflora and throw on heavier woody debris to help compact it. I just make sure not to build a pile on existing rosa multiflora because they will happily take over the pile! I figure if I can keep the plants small at least I can mow them with my walk behind DR brush mower (a very useful tool!), rather than the hard graft of chainsaw elimination. I appreciate your attention to this plant -- yes, it has some positive attributes, but there are many other natives that can fill the niche for pollinators and not take over the landscape!
One little tip i could give is to drill a hole into the stem, and fill that with salt,. When it rains the salt will rot the plant from inside out, and will even effect the roots. It's one of the ways we use to get rid of trees roots and bushes. Ofcourse u need to stay on top of them, but it's another way to try to battle them.
You got me hooked on knowledge collection been looking at all the plants on my walks and learning about every little thing I see 🤣 it's crazy how the majority is an invasive species
We do a lot of burning here in the spring and fall in upstate NY. Bigger branches and logs saved for night time summer camp fires, where we sit around with our glass of wine into the wee hours of the night.
Thanks for the video. It appears I have the invasive honeysuckle I need to get rid of before the spring rain. I wanted to suggest you get a large tarp and cut a slit to the center and lay it around the base of the multiflora so that when you cut it down it will fall on the tarp and then you can just roll the tarp with the contents inside and that way you do not drop the hips all over the ground where they can grow. I think it will also be less painful than moving the branches individually. Great video!
I’ve dealt with the multiflora rose!! Tell Saunder to wear long sleeves when he works around thorny shrubby plants and junipers!! There are some white multifloras growing nearby me but not able to cut back. They are beautiful in the spring, so I gave them a name...Duchess of Halifax!! 😁
Where applicable you could use industrial grade geo-mesh or landscape fabric to smother stumps/roots. May take a year or two to work, and the mesh must be well anchored. A quality chainsaw and hedge trimmer make the work lighter. You may want to rent a small excavator to do large scale initial removal. I love the chain and tow hitch method. Good hunting!
I ha e heard that rosa multiflora is very good at drawing nitrogen from the soil, and therefore, the wood chips are very good for restoring that nitrogen to the soil.
Watching this with cuts all over me from removing this horrible plant. It looks like I lost a fight with a cat. I treat it like the honeysuckle: cut out the big stuff first so I don't get anymore seeds and then spot poison the cut stems. The little stuff I just pull out of the ground. I know you guys want to avoid the chemicals but these plants, rose and honeysuckle, can be overwhelming if you don't kill it the first time. I haven't seen any negative effects for the surrounding plants if I am careful of what I spray. I've observed this stuff coming back if I didn't take drastic measures the first time and due to the sheer amount of infestation I can't afford the time to be doing the job over and over again. Great channel btw. I've learned a lot from your various interviews and I commend what you are doing on your new land. Cheers
As someone who's thinking tentatively of planting a rose on my .03 acres, this video has really done a lot to sway me to planting something much more native!
Currently dealing with an invasive growth of Hedera helix that was suffocating plants on a property. Using saws to cut through it. I am trying to get this done all before end of April before I disturb beneficial insects and birds. Best to work on it in dormancy season.
I can relate. We have wild plum trees in our yard in Manitoba and it is an ongoing project to get rid of it. It has very sharp thorns and tangles the same way. I do find if you just keep cutting it, eventually the roots get tired and die. Keep at it!
Coming from a different angle... The young lady in the video is the spitten image, as they say, of my daughter...Looks, voice , personality...ansolutely amazing. She would love this country/rural life style. Alas, she has chronic migraines and is very limited in all aspects of her life. She is an avid animal lover as well. Sadly for me she lives far away in New Mexico. Oh well, maybe someday she will come back home. I enjoyed the video. I was doing research on the blossoming flower (Multiflora Rose) when I came accross this video. Nice work...interesting and entertaining.
Have your daughter try a good quality black seed oil (‘Nigella Sativa’) for migraines. I personally chew the seeds raw with my morning tea and honey - slowly like tabaca. :-) It helps!
This is huges beautiful garden in the future congrats all the groups i know this is a big project for dream garden God bless and stay safe . From your fan in Asia
How about an episode about the genus Rosa - the flower of love, a very popular garden plant, producer of rose hip and has some very nasty members such as R. multiflora and R. rugosa
MAybe someone suggested this already but have you considered goats to remove the Rosa Multiflora? Some people rent a herd out to graze and clear land. Big out west here to control plants that feed fires.
Smashed it, up at 4 everyday finish at 7. Lined out the plot today, 6 rows, seeding them tomorrow. I got 19,000 spinach and kale seeds the other day. The back garden looks like an industrial nursery. The landlords daughter made me uproot the lot '' she wants the grass back ''. The brother, mother, landlord, house mates all love it too. Cow. So i turned it to my advantage, transplanted everything into pots, turned up the soil laid pots in rows and took back all my soil, then seeded them. So yeah my wealth is mobile, these guy wont go hungry thats for sure. Im glad you are well, you look well. Remember you are seeking joy and finding alignment, not get now pay later, pay now get later. Angels/demons. Take care love. x.
Interesting that it is Rosa multiflora you are fighting. Here in Sweden we are having the same issues with Rosa rugosa. It invades a lot of sandy beaches, making it impenetrable. Very glad you are talking about all these invasive species that we are spreading from our gardens. It is a huge and growing problem. And not noticed enough, at least here in Sweden. Good luck with your fight.
Love these berries for holiday arrangements with evergreens!! I hate using fake berries, these are gorgeous, and don’t fall off! I wish RUclips would let us post pics in the comments!
I'm just rewatching many of y'all's videos as I wait for Spring to fully come on. Very informative! And here I am holding a package of Rosa Rugosa seeds... I just want the Rose Hips for medicinal, and basically nutritional reasons! Lots of vitamin C in those hips! I've never grown it. I also do NOT want it to become invasive either! I am already dealing with one invasive plant - Ligustrum. Here in the South, it has become a real problem. To make matters worse, the leaves are Allelopathic! Possibly those prolific roots too - but not enough research has been done on them. I have a 300 sq. ft. solid section of it where NOTHING will grow in the surrounding soil bcuz of the Allelopathy. With the rose, I certainly do not want to introduce a new nemesis on my property!! I'm not sure how deep the Rugosa roots go. My only thought has been to bury a thick sheet of metal to create an in-ground planter, with no bottom. Only 2 problems with that idea: 1.) I don't know what KIND of metal would be best to maintain a chemical free soil since the plant will be used for medicinal purposes. 2.) My budget is slim-to-none. However, it's always that way. And somehow, I seem to figure out how to get what I need along the way! So ANY and ALL suggestions on how to grow rose hips that are high in nutrients, while NOT being invasive, are much appreciated!! Does anyone know a Rose variety that fits this description?! As well as metal choices. If there's no other way to enclose the rose roots, or I suppose if I have to grow an invasive species, this would be the way to do it? I'm not sure... Unless, of course, the roots would simply dig deeper than any "in-ground wall" they come up against? In that case, the underground wall idea is out. Help y'all!!
When cutting back the roses before growth, leave a hearty stem/trunk for the roots to send suckers from. That way they transfer energy into the trunk growth that’s easier to remove in one cut.
Definitely check out rose gloves. They'll protect your arms more but I found the leather on the hand portion is a little thinner so just be more careful about grabbing and pulling
Google Earth also has features where you can overlay a custom map image over theirs and you can add pins, draw shapes, etc. It's a lot easier to use on a computer than the app though.
Yeah, that's the key-is having it on an app, as we'll be out in the field. In this case, having it on a desktop is not as useful. But we may import the waypoints into a desktop version eventually just to monitor spread. I guess we'll do that if we feel like we want to get totally nerdy.
Summer, you probably know this already but remember that brush piles are not a bad thing. Placed where they won't be found unsightly, they are wonderful for wildlife. Of course they are not the place for diseased plants and unwanted plants in seed. I have a tiny brush pile against one wall of my 40x45 backyard (in a newly-built area) because I have been told they are the best way to attract toads. Also I have watched the mourning and white-wing doves hop right into that pile when a hawk is near.
You are going to be most famous plant explorer in all over the world. Linnaeus sent apostles for exploring the worlds flora, but you travels on your way yourself.
Invasive plant management really sucks but once they're reduced significantly on the property it's a huge sigh of relief. I'm in the early stages of managing invasive honeysuckle shrub and European buckthorn on my property. Going to be using the cut stem painting method with concentrated herbicide. Little mess, little to no exposure to non-target plant species and quite effective when done in the fall while the plant is pulling everything down to the roots to store over winter. Cut the brush off to leave stem "stumps" and paint the cut of those stumps. Herbicides get such a bad reputation, but it's all about choosing the correct type of herbicide for the target plant and environmental setting. Proper use/ application can be lower impact than so many manual removal techniques. It's all about the right "tool" for the job. Best of luck with the ongoing battle!
How's it going for you? We have multiflora rose, buckthorn AND honeysuckle, as well as poison ivy and Virginia Creeper. Egads, it's a huge fight and we just started.
@@constanciawr9420 it's going well! The main thing dictating success with this is consistency. Buckthorn especially has a quick turnover within the seedbank, so if you are on top of it for a solid year, you can reduce it significantly.
Good luck! We've been fighting that %+#*&^ rose for 37 years and have to be extremely vigilant every year to make sure we get the early growth. If it gets into a stand of trees it is almost impossible to control.
Dog rose (Rosa Canina) is one I struggle with. It seeds so easily it just spreads everywhere. I think I've got rid of it but at ton of new little plants pop up. We do have an ornamental rose that has similar issues but I'm not quite as bothered by that one. Ivy is the other.
This is great, thank you! If you battle knotweed I'd love to see a video on that. I'm in western mass. The bees seem to like the flowers, but I don't know if they're good bees. Would love to know more and you are my favorite for scientific understandable knowledge about plants :)
my suggestion is to wear a heavy long-sleeved shirt when trying to get close to it, also it is so light and wispy that it doesn't burn well unless it it is smashed down with heavier wood. It's a battle to remove it no matter what strategy you use.
Your videos are great, but I will really love to see some woodchipper, mulching, composting instead of burning and bottled fertilizers on your homestead.
They are pretty when they bloom but they are insane--- the thorns are vicious!! I don't envy you doing that job!! Can you burn some of the plants at their location... would help to kill the roots??? Be careful with the fires because if the thorns are not completely destroyed they can still cause damage... I've had them go through a thin soled shoe!!!
What drone are you using - would you recommend it? I want to get one for my hubby so he can help me (I'm lousy with electronics) map our newly acquired 45 acres of abandoned farmland. We call the invasive plants the 4 horseman - bush honeysuckle, buckthorn, multiflora rose and autumn olive. I have one goal in life these days, to eradicate the invasive non native plants and replace them with more appropriate native plants.
The few things multiflora roses are good for is security fencing, protecting song birds from predator's, and rose hips for rose hip tea (if you can get your arm back out!). Depending on how much more you actually have to remove - they sell rose gloves that go almost to your elbow that the thorns don't penetrate. The cost depends on where you get them, what brand, and which material they're made of some are metal mesh others are leather or canvas
I use long-blade shears for the fine branches Big loppers for the thicker branches Then a shovel to dig it out Sometimes I’ll hang the roots up in a tree as a warning to the rest of its kin to stay out!
Have you considered cut and dab to kill the roots. I've done revegetation work here down under and we used this method on blackberries. Virtually no impact on other plants and very affective.
Yes, we have considered cutting stems and applying some Round-up, but we though we'd go the harder route of mechanical removal and monitoring. Over time, we may do the cut-and-dab method, but we will see! I think we have a chance if we stay on top of it and start removing again this month and next.
@@FlockFingerLakes How can you even consider using round up?!? It harms and kills insects like bees and probably causes cancer !? I don't get it! Is it not publicly known in America?
@@FlockFingerLakes 30% vinegar also works for the cut and dab method. Im using it to manage my knotweed problem, and I might need to start on the autumn olive. Good luck either way!
We had a large map of our 56acre farm printed out and laminated as well as a clear topography overlay. We attached it to a white board. That way we could map out planting, where to build. The general flow, and a ton of other things (septic, well, water lines and such) . It was a bit pricey to do, but we had it for 20+ years and the new owners were thrilled to have it. As far as digital- Mapme, Visme, and scribble maps are a few I know of.
I know you already learned a little how to use Qgis. You can map it in there, I know it's confusing program, but you can use the exports almost I every other program or application (like my maps and others). Also for mapping greenery from satellites maigt be useful SNAP or something, where you can learn to use different spectrums of the image (it will highlight vegetation or water or whatever you like). You would have to learn basis of remote sensing, but it might be worth it (or maybe not 😀) I'm not a native speaker, so I hope it make sense.
GIS is not really great though as a mobile application, and when we're out in the field, we need to just map the waypoints more easily on the phone. We can then import those onto a desktop version, but at this stage, I think we'll only be using it as a mobile application. Or do you know a lightweight GIS mobile app?
@@FlockFingerLakes I know I saw another comment that all goats were rented out but when I lived on 10 acres I had 6 goats and portable solar powered electric fence and the goats were amazing at clearing poison ivy. Just be careful about petting them or you might get poison ivy too I learned. The roses if small mowing over them all summer in the lawn did take them out. There was a hedgerow of them on the neighbors side of the fence.
Use the honeysuckle for the base in raised beds in garden Anytime you can stockpile 1inch thick semi strait 6-8ft long branches layer them out on forest floor eg.12x12' next layer rotate crosswise and repeat This is a good way to have seasoned fuel, fencing, pathways,mud covers, furniture/tools even mulch mabey build a bridge over a bog or spring creek . Sticks have tons of uses critters love to hang out in them as well there's some entertainment! Also think about planting flowers and herbs that are anti pest next to buildings & doors..marigold, citronella, evergreens lemongrass, plant a peony by trash 🗑️ they smell nice , look nice& attract ants. so no ants in buildings ! The rose hips in multiflora rose is 4x the vitC then an orange! Save for T!!! Or preserve for winter woodland critters Also a large root cellar is a great way to preserve , store, save$ no energy required plus doubles as storm shelter Just an idea Well good luck and thanks for the entertainment!👋
30% vinegar might help with killing the plant at least on the leaves. If you mix with salt and some dish soap and spray on the plant in question it will effectively burn the leaves and weaken the plant. Recipes for this are on the internet, and I've found it to be very effective. Our big issue up here in the Pac NW is blackberry bushes. It's literally the worst. So i feel for ya...
Is there a reason why you're not using the flame thrower on the stump? Invasives a usually need a two pronged approach. Someone commented about dipping, but that's with roundup. Otherwise, you're just coppicing. Yearly.
@@FlockFingerLakes Yikers! That's a lot of work. I think you kill it with the flame thrower. But you were working in the autumn = high risk of forest fire. Maybe hitting them in the winter with the torch. I've always attacked as they spend their energy in spring growth, but have never had the benefit of a torch like yours. It's my understanding that cutting in the autumn is less optimal because the tree has already shored away a year's worth of energy for winter and spring. I realize that is when you arrived and were gung ho to get started.
Is there a reason you're not using power tools? Brushcutter would be SO much quicker and EASIER. I use it almost daily and I'm a small woman so it's really easy to use.
I would not recommend a brush cutter for this task. It would be dangerous to have those thorny branches fly all over. However, they can use a brush cutter on that property. The following video does a good comparison on the best blades. I thought of including it, in case they consider buying one. ruclips.net/video/HVJz7Gqn_SY/видео.html
We only got on the land in October-November (when we filmed this), so really haven't gotten all the tools we needed for all our tasks. We did, however, get a UTV to help with the snow (and just in the knick of time)!!
@@FlockFingerLakes I saw it!! and said the same to myself. Looked like Sander was having fun plowing the road to the house. 🤣🤣❄❄ I am glad you did invest on that first. Wise move. That snow looked scary.
@@mariafolch8067 ruclips.net/video/bRMLmRVgDKk/видео.html Or maybe they should get this, hehe :D I don't know, but I've used brush cutter for thorny branches, yikes! Of course you have to use the right safety equipment from head to toe and to be mindfull of people around you. There isn't a lot of thorns in the stem of the bush. Sorry English isn't my first language so I might use wrong/silly words~ Thanks for the video link, it was interesting for me as well! I've only used one kind of blade at work :)
@@FlockFingerLakes That explains :D I was a bit confused. Thanks for the reply! Your project is inspiring and I'm really happy that people are following their dreams! :)
We've found that nearly all the sheep/goats in the area are fully rented out to munch down nutrient rich grasses and legumes in the copious solar farms in the area. But may have to get a couple goats of our own!
My husband & I went through gallons of poison ivy killer in order to take down the poison ivy practically surrounding our land 😖 It’s definitely not something you can take care of in one go! Also providing other sources of food for the birds, hoping they don’t poop more poison ivy berry seeds on our property 😓 My husband had to basically get a hazmat suit bc when he went at it with an ax it would spray poison ivy sap/juice at him
We too had to get a hazmat suit style out when removing it from the community garden in Brooklyn. But yea, birds love and rely on the berries, so it's a tough go!
@@FlockFingerLakes my family and I planted one to grow along a fence along with some tea roses.... was not a good idea. So unruly. We eventually removed the rose but it will pop up occasionally here and there. Extremely resilient.
At first I was like, let's turn this into tea. And then as I started to see HOW MUCH we had on the land, I realized I'd be overdosing on tea....But yes, plenty more where that came from. We'll likely do another cut and harvest and also burn this month or next.
Throw a chain around the base of the stem and pull it out with the ATV. They make long gauntlet gloves specifically for rose growers and they have better dexterity than the welders gloves.
Thanks for your tip.
I love these videos the quality is so amazing and I feel like I’m learning so much. You guys are such an inspiration.
You guys have your own "Green Acres", I'm enjoying the series and learning along with you
I concur! I get tired just by watching the work, but it is so much fun and so interesting to “do” this with you vicariously through RUclips. Thanks for taking us along on the journey.
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I lived in the Northwest and we bought a neglected 5 acre farm. Our scourge was Himalayan blackberries which is worse than your rose if you can imagine! Our solution to eradicating it from our property was to bring in pigs. We made a portable pig pen and wherever we had cut back the blackberries we moved the pig pen around...they rooted out the roots and ate them as well as fertilizing the soil. It was an organic win win!
This is fantastic permaculture and regenerative problem-solving!
An easy low tech solution for me is using colored survey flags. I place them where I want to keep an eye on an invasive plant that I want to permanently get rid of. Every time I am in the garden, my attention is drawn to the flags as a reminder to check to see if anything is coming back. They come in a variety of bright colors and are about 18" high.
Good post. We are battling them constantly. This year I bought an electric Stihl saw and with the loppers been cutting them down. When they grow back up I plan to spray them. I have about 7 acres of forest and it is a challenge to get rid of these horrible things. I want to create a number of walking trails and we are making progress.
Thanks so much for this! Because of your video I thought what might be prarie roses in our new.yard is actually multiflora rose. It's pretty small in our yard now so we have the chance to stop it before it gets too bad! Good luck with your battle!
I am Soo happy I found your channel! We have this on our property as well I’m quite sure - it has definitely taken over in some areas- this was quite helpful! Thank you! Looking forward to more posts!! 🌲✨
Glad it's useful!
Color coding the plant dots. A different color for each different plant on your map. Also when dealing with wild branches of multi flora and other brambly shrubs it’s good to wear glasses to protect eyes.
Just catching up on all the episodes and not sure if you guys have settled on a specific way to keep track of the invasives by now.
In case you're still trying things - Avenza is pretty cool. I use it for fieldwork when I know I won't have reception. You'd obviously need your drone imagery georeferenced (which you might have already done anyways) and then you can upload any type of map, or in this case your drone imagery. As far as I understand it then would have similar tools available as maptiler.
Loving your determination and that you guys have gone the steps to dive into this amazing lifestyle!
An awful problem! Just keep at it and you will win hard as that is. I'm loving watching your saga and really enjoying the updates you are sharing with us! Thanks Summer and Sander
Muliflora is very well suited to riparian situations , at least from my experience , therefore lakes or ponds are ideal property . In the South grazing animals control it best because it can be stoloniferous to some degree. One advantage to having a small amount is its great as rootstock for grafting and with nursery potential , practice grafting on it.
Yes, this is my nemesis! Some of our stands are so large that I have to use my chainsaw to bring them down. I then use an old pitchfork with tines bent at a 90 degree angle to rake the newly cut plants into a pile. I highly recommend heavy cotton long-sleeved work shirts -- the kind loggers wear. They're the best for getting unstuck while you work deep into the plant. We don't like burn piles because of the airborne particulate matter, so I try to build piles of multiflora and throw on heavier woody debris to help compact it. I just make sure not to build a pile on existing rosa multiflora because they will happily take over the pile! I figure if I can keep the plants small at least I can mow them with my walk behind DR brush mower (a very useful tool!), rather than the hard graft of chainsaw elimination. I appreciate your attention to this plant -- yes, it has some positive attributes, but there are many other natives that can fill the niche for pollinators and not take over the landscape!
One little tip i could give is to drill a hole into the stem, and fill that with salt,. When it rains the salt will rot the plant from inside out, and will even effect the roots. It's one of the ways we use to get rid of trees roots and bushes. Ofcourse u need to stay on top of them, but it's another way to try to battle them.
Doesn't that literally salt the earth so other plants won't grow either?
@@FortheBudgies no don't use to much just enough to get the wood rotten. It will be slow release too. Cuz the salt is inside the stem.
You got me hooked on knowledge collection been looking at all the plants on my walks and learning about every little thing I see 🤣 it's crazy how the majority is an invasive species
Ahhh very good! Did you get that through, "How to Make a Plant Love You" book?
Ahhh very good! Did you get that through, "How to Make a Plant Love You" book?
@@FlockFingerLakes yes I have summers book 😊 bought it used though I apologize
We do a lot of burning here in the spring and fall in upstate NY. Bigger branches and logs saved for night time summer camp fires, where we sit around with our glass of wine into the wee hours of the night.
Thanks for the video. It appears I have the invasive honeysuckle I need to get rid of before the spring rain. I wanted to suggest you get a large tarp and cut a slit to the center and lay it around the base of the multiflora so that when you cut it down it will fall on the tarp and then you can just roll the tarp with the contents inside and that way you do not drop the hips all over the ground where they can grow. I think it will also be less painful than moving the branches individually. Great video!
I’ve dealt with the multiflora rose!! Tell Saunder to wear long sleeves when he works around thorny shrubby plants and junipers!! There are some white multifloras growing nearby me but not able to cut back. They are beautiful in the spring, so I gave them a name...Duchess of Halifax!! 😁
Where applicable you could use industrial grade geo-mesh or landscape fabric to smother stumps/roots. May take a year or two to work, and the mesh must be well anchored. A quality chainsaw and hedge trimmer make the work lighter. You may want to rent a small excavator to do large scale initial removal. I love the chain and tow hitch method. Good hunting!
I ha e heard that rosa multiflora is very good at drawing nitrogen from the soil, and therefore, the wood chips are very good for restoring that nitrogen to the soil.
Watching this with cuts all over me from removing this horrible plant. It looks like I lost a fight with a cat.
I treat it like the honeysuckle: cut out the big stuff first so I don't get anymore seeds and then spot poison the cut stems. The little stuff I just pull out of the ground. I know you guys want to avoid the chemicals but these plants, rose and honeysuckle, can be overwhelming if you don't kill it the first time. I haven't seen any negative effects for the surrounding plants if I am careful of what I spray.
I've observed this stuff coming back if I didn't take drastic measures the first time and due to the sheer amount of infestation I can't afford the time to be doing the job over and over again.
Great channel btw. I've learned a lot from your various interviews and I commend what you are doing on your new land. Cheers
As someone who's thinking tentatively of planting a rose on my .03 acres, this video has really done a lot to sway me to planting something much more native!
Well, I will say some rose bushes are not as aggressive as Rosa multiflora.
Currently dealing with an invasive growth of Hedera helix that was suffocating plants on a property. Using saws to cut through it. I am trying to get this done all before end of April before I disturb beneficial insects and birds. Best to work on it in dormancy season.
u might wanna invest in a small wood chipper, it also fertilizes the soil, loved this episode, imma try and do the same for the mapping
A really solid wood chipper is high on the list. We want one just south of a commercial one. Let us know if you have any suggestions!
I can relate. We have wild plum trees in our yard in Manitoba and it is an ongoing project to get rid of it. It has very sharp thorns and tangles the same way. I do find if you just keep cutting it, eventually the roots get tired and die. Keep at it!
Coming from a different angle...
The young lady in the video is the spitten image, as they say, of my daughter...Looks, voice , personality...ansolutely amazing. She would love this country/rural life style. Alas, she has chronic migraines and is very limited in all aspects of her life. She is an avid animal lover as well. Sadly for me she lives far away in New Mexico. Oh well, maybe someday she will come back home.
I enjoyed the video. I was doing research on the blossoming flower (Multiflora Rose) when I came accross this video. Nice work...interesting and entertaining.
Have your daughter try a good quality black seed oil (‘Nigella Sativa’) for migraines. I personally chew the seeds raw with my morning tea and honey - slowly like tabaca. :-) It helps!
@@blisssing8449 Thank you!
This is huges beautiful garden in the future congrats all the groups i know this is a big project for dream garden God bless and stay safe . From your fan in Asia
Thanks so much Josie.
How about an episode about the genus Rosa - the flower of love, a very popular garden plant, producer of rose hip and has some very nasty members such as R. multiflora and R. rugosa
It is truly satisfying to utterly decimate a terror like those.
MAybe someone suggested this already but have you considered goats to remove the Rosa Multiflora? Some people rent a herd out to graze and clear land. Big out west here to control plants that feed fires.
Ugh!!!! Yeah, let's talk about gardening battle wounds and how birds are the relentless gardeners!!
Smashed it, up at 4 everyday finish at 7. Lined out the plot today, 6 rows, seeding them tomorrow. I got 19,000 spinach and kale seeds the other day. The back garden looks like an industrial nursery. The landlords daughter made me uproot the lot '' she wants the grass back ''. The brother, mother, landlord, house mates all love it too. Cow. So i turned it to my advantage, transplanted everything into pots, turned up the soil laid pots in rows and took back all my soil, then seeded them. So yeah my wealth is mobile, these guy wont go hungry thats for sure. Im glad you are well, you look well. Remember you are seeking joy and finding alignment, not get now pay later, pay now get later. Angels/demons. Take care love. x.
Interesting that it is Rosa multiflora you are fighting. Here in Sweden we are having the same issues with Rosa rugosa. It invades a lot of sandy beaches, making it impenetrable. Very glad you are talking about all these invasive species that we are spreading from our gardens. It is a huge and growing problem. And not noticed enough, at least here in Sweden. Good luck with your fight.
Love this series! God bless you guys and keep you going strong!
Love these berries for holiday arrangements with evergreens!! I hate using fake berries, these are gorgeous, and don’t fall off! I wish RUclips would let us post pics in the comments!
I'm just rewatching many of y'all's videos as I wait for Spring to fully come on.
Very informative!
And here I am holding a package of Rosa Rugosa seeds...
I just want the Rose Hips for medicinal, and basically nutritional reasons!
Lots of vitamin C in those hips!
I've never grown it.
I also do NOT want it to become invasive either!
I am already dealing with one invasive plant - Ligustrum.
Here in the South, it has become a real problem.
To make matters worse, the leaves are Allelopathic!
Possibly those prolific roots too - but not enough research has been done on them.
I have a 300 sq. ft. solid section of it where NOTHING will grow in the surrounding soil bcuz of the Allelopathy.
With the rose, I certainly do not want to introduce a new nemesis on my property!!
I'm not sure how deep the Rugosa roots go.
My only thought has been to bury a thick sheet of metal to create an in-ground planter, with no bottom.
Only 2 problems with that idea:
1.) I don't know what KIND of metal would be best to maintain a chemical free soil since the plant will be used for medicinal purposes.
2.) My budget is slim-to-none.
However, it's always that way. And somehow, I seem to figure out how to get what I need along the way!
So ANY and ALL suggestions on how to grow rose hips that are high in nutrients, while NOT being invasive, are much appreciated!!
Does anyone know a Rose variety that fits this description?!
As well as metal choices.
If there's no other way to enclose the rose roots, or I suppose if I have to grow an invasive species, this would be the way to do it?
I'm not sure...
Unless, of course, the roots would simply dig deeper than any "in-ground wall" they come up against?
In that case, the underground wall idea is out.
Help y'all!!
This is such a fun project to watch!
When cutting back the roses before growth, leave a hearty stem/trunk for the roots to send suckers from. That way they transfer energy into the trunk growth that’s easier to remove in one cut.
Fantastic. Thanks for the tips.
I'm double gloving with bamboo gardening gloves and long cuff rose gloves over - one big multi-flora down another one to tackle before snow.
Good morning. You are up early. Have a good day.
I love the hair it looks so cute :)
Definitely check out rose gloves. They'll protect your arms more but I found the leather on the hand portion is a little thinner so just be more careful about grabbing and pulling
Yes, one of the commentors here had a good recommendation for rose gloves. I'll definitely be getting a pair!
Google Earth also has features where you can overlay a custom map image over theirs and you can add pins, draw shapes, etc. It's a lot easier to use on a computer than the app though.
Yeah, that's the key-is having it on an app, as we'll be out in the field. In this case, having it on a desktop is not as useful. But we may import the waypoints into a desktop version eventually just to monitor spread. I guess we'll do that if we feel like we want to get totally nerdy.
Doesn't Google Earth Pro have an app? Haven't used the app version though, so unsure how intuitive the user interface is.
I hate that type of roses too. We had one in our backyard that encroached everything. After removing it, it opened up space and cleared everything.
Summer, you probably know this already but remember that brush piles are not a bad thing. Placed where they won't be found unsightly, they are wonderful for wildlife. Of course they are not the place for diseased plants and unwanted plants in seed. I have a tiny brush pile against one wall of my 40x45 backyard (in a newly-built area) because I have been told they are the best way to attract toads. Also I have watched the mourning and white-wing doves hop right into that pile when a hawk is near.
You are going to be most famous plant explorer in all over the world.
Linnaeus sent apostles for exploring the worlds flora, but you travels on your way yourself.
Invasive plant management really sucks but once they're reduced significantly on the property it's a huge sigh of relief. I'm in the early stages of managing invasive honeysuckle shrub and European buckthorn on my property. Going to be using the cut stem painting method with concentrated herbicide. Little mess, little to no exposure to non-target plant species and quite effective when done in the fall while the plant is pulling everything down to the roots to store over winter. Cut the brush off to leave stem "stumps" and paint the cut of those stumps. Herbicides get such a bad reputation, but it's all about choosing the correct type of herbicide for the target plant and environmental setting. Proper use/ application can be lower impact than so many manual removal techniques. It's all about the right "tool" for the job.
Best of luck with the ongoing battle!
How's it going for you? We have multiflora rose, buckthorn AND honeysuckle, as well as poison ivy and Virginia Creeper. Egads, it's a huge fight and we just started.
@@constanciawr9420 it's going well! The main thing dictating success with this is consistency. Buckthorn especially has a quick turnover within the seedbank, so if you are on top of it for a solid year, you can reduce it significantly.
Good luck! We've been fighting that %+#*&^ rose for 37 years and have to be extremely vigilant every year to make sure we get the early growth. If it gets into a stand of trees it is almost impossible to control.
We have it along our deer fence and THAT makes it incredibly hard to remove. It's become a part of the fence.
Dog rose (Rosa Canina) is one I struggle with. It seeds so easily it just spreads everywhere. I think I've got rid of it but at ton of new little plants pop up. We do have an ornamental rose that has similar issues but I'm not quite as bothered by that one. Ivy is the other.
This is great, thank you! If you battle knotweed I'd love to see a video on that. I'm in western mass. The bees seem to like the flowers, but I don't know if they're good bees. Would love to know more and you are my favorite for scientific understandable knowledge about plants :)
my suggestion is to wear a heavy long-sleeved shirt when trying to get close to it, also it is so light and wispy that it doesn't burn well unless it it is smashed down with heavier wood. It's a battle to remove it no matter what strategy you use.
Your videos are great, but I will really love to see some woodchipper, mulching, composting instead of burning and bottled fertilizers on your homestead.
They are pretty when they bloom but they are insane--- the thorns are vicious!! I don't envy you doing that job!! Can you burn some of the plants at their location... would help to kill the roots??? Be careful with the fires because if the thorns are not completely destroyed they can still cause damage... I've had them go through a thin soled shoe!!!
What a pain! That is a lot! My neighbor has just 2main ones...even that is awful.
What drone are you using - would you recommend it? I want to get one for my hubby so he can help me (I'm lousy with electronics) map our newly acquired 45 acres of abandoned farmland. We call the invasive plants the 4 horseman - bush honeysuckle, buckthorn, multiflora rose and autumn olive. I have one goal in life these days, to eradicate the invasive non native plants and replace them with more appropriate native plants.
Gosh, 45 acres?!?! We have three and sometimes feel like we're on overload trying to get the invasives under control.
Keeps animals and unwanted children out of your yard.. Plus can be contained by mowing along border of hedge.
Good video 👍
The few things multiflora roses are good for is security fencing, protecting song birds from predator's, and rose hips for rose hip tea (if you can get your arm back out!). Depending on how much more you actually have to remove - they sell rose gloves that go almost to your elbow that the thorns don't penetrate. The cost depends on where you get them, what brand, and which material they're made of some are metal mesh others are leather or canvas
Cut out above the roots and pull in fall/winter. Minimal amount of glyphosate on the growing tips in spring will kill the whole plant.
I use long-blade shears for the fine branches
Big loppers for the thicker branches
Then a shovel to dig it out
Sometimes I’ll hang the roots up in a tree as a warning to the rest of its kin to stay out!
Have you considered cut and dab to kill the roots. I've done revegetation work here down under and we used this method on blackberries. Virtually no impact on other plants and very affective.
Yes, we have considered cutting stems and applying some Round-up, but we though we'd go the harder route of mechanical removal and monitoring. Over time, we may do the cut-and-dab method, but we will see! I think we have a chance if we stay on top of it and start removing again this month and next.
@@FlockFingerLakes How can you even consider using round up?!? It harms and kills insects like bees and probably causes cancer !? I don't get it! Is it not publicly known in America?
@@FlockFingerLakes I don't envy you at all with this job. But rewarding in the end.
@@FlockFingerLakes 30% vinegar also works for the cut and dab method. Im using it to manage my knotweed problem, and I might need to start on the autumn olive. Good luck either way!
@@uschinique75 Yes, it's widely known!
Sounds like a perfect deer fence. Ya know? British hedgerows?
When you live in a cold enough climate, Rosa multiflora isn't going to be a problem. Then you have problems with Rosa rugosa, which is worse, I think.
Are these rose hips the one that you can make products from…maybe a way to reduce propagation and a money making solution
we KNOW 'why'. I hope you tell us HOW. chains and tractors are a big help... (I see you know less about this than I do.)
all I could think was "she's so beautiful", I wonder if it's invasive where I live...
the rose is from Asia, so if you don’t live there, it is.
We had a large map of our 56acre farm printed out and laminated as well as a clear topography overlay. We attached it to a white board. That way we could map out planting, where to build. The general flow, and a ton of other things (septic, well, water lines and such) . It was a bit pricey to do, but we had it for 20+ years and the new owners were thrilled to have it. As far as digital- Mapme, Visme, and scribble maps are a few I know of.
What you like cocktails or something ?. I love them.
Where is episode #9? Use the ATV to pull plants out by their roots.
I know you already learned a little how to use Qgis. You can map it in there, I know it's confusing program, but you can use the exports almost I every other program or application (like my maps and others). Also for mapping greenery from satellites maigt be useful SNAP or something, where you can learn to use different spectrums of the image (it will highlight vegetation or water or whatever you like). You would have to learn basis of remote sensing, but it might be worth it (or maybe not 😀) I'm not a native speaker, so I hope it make sense.
GIS is not really great though as a mobile application, and when we're out in the field, we need to just map the waypoints more easily on the phone. We can then import those onto a desktop version, but at this stage, I think we'll only be using it as a mobile application. Or do you know a lightweight GIS mobile app?
That interviewer lady is super fine!
Hope your Tetanus jab is up to date.
Is the houseplant behind you when you are inside a Maranta? Fascinator, Lemon & Lime???
"Fell one on me"
Burn one on me :)
As much as this plant is horrible, I still prefer to deal with if versus the native poison Ivy. To me, that is hell
I just bought poison ivy soap (because I know we'll need it somewhere down the line!)
@@FlockFingerLakes I know I saw another comment that all goats were rented out but when I lived on 10 acres I had 6 goats and portable solar powered electric fence and the goats were amazing at clearing poison ivy. Just be careful about petting them or you might get poison ivy too I learned. The roses if small mowing over them all summer in the lawn did take them out. There was a hedgerow of them on the neighbors side of the fence.
Pour vinegar and salt over the hole any time you see new green shoots
Use the honeysuckle for the base in raised beds in garden
Anytime you can stockpile 1inch thick semi strait 6-8ft long branches layer them out on forest floor eg.12x12' next layer rotate crosswise and repeat
This is a good way to have seasoned fuel, fencing, pathways,mud covers, furniture/tools even mulch mabey build a bridge over a bog or spring creek .
Sticks have tons of uses critters love to hang out in them as well there's some entertainment!
Also think about planting flowers and herbs that are anti pest next to buildings & doors..marigold,
citronella, evergreens lemongrass, plant a peony by trash 🗑️ they smell nice , look nice& attract ants. so no ants in buildings !
The rose hips in multiflora rose is 4x the vitC then an orange! Save for T!!! Or preserve for winter woodland critters
Also a large root cellar is a great way to preserve , store, save$ no energy required plus doubles as storm shelter
Just an idea
Well good luck and thanks for the entertainment!👋
30% vinegar might help with killing the plant at least on the leaves. If you mix with salt and some dish soap and spray on the plant in question it will effectively burn the leaves and weaken the plant. Recipes for this are on the internet, and I've found it to be very effective.
Our big issue up here in the Pac NW is blackberry bushes. It's literally the worst. So i feel for ya...
How long have you been doing that and how effective has it been? We have lots of invasives on our newly-purchased property.
Is there a reason why you're not using the flame thrower on the stump? Invasives a usually need a two pronged approach. Someone commented about dipping, but that's with roundup. Otherwise, you're just coppicing. Yearly.
We actually dug out the stump.
@@FlockFingerLakes Yikers! That's a lot of work. I think you kill it with the flame thrower. But you were working in the autumn = high risk of forest fire. Maybe hitting them in the winter with the torch. I've always attacked as they spend their energy in spring growth, but have never had the benefit of a torch like yours. It's my understanding that cutting in the autumn is less optimal because the tree has already shored away a year's worth of energy for winter and spring. I realize that is when you arrived and were gung ho to get started.
Can you specify which Felco saw that you're using? Link to recommended products?
Done! Included both in the description now for you :)
@@FlockFingerLakes Thanks!
Is there a reason you're not using power tools? Brushcutter would be SO much quicker and EASIER. I use it almost daily and I'm a small woman so it's really easy to use.
I would not recommend a brush cutter for this task. It would be dangerous to have those thorny branches fly all over. However, they can use a brush cutter on that property. The following video does a good comparison on the best blades. I thought of including it, in case they consider buying one.
ruclips.net/video/HVJz7Gqn_SY/видео.html
We only got on the land in October-November (when we filmed this), so really haven't gotten all the tools we needed for all our tasks. We did, however, get a UTV to help with the snow (and just in the knick of time)!!
@@FlockFingerLakes I saw it!! and said the same to myself. Looked like Sander was having fun plowing the road to the house. 🤣🤣❄❄ I am glad you did invest on that first. Wise move. That snow looked scary.
@@mariafolch8067 ruclips.net/video/bRMLmRVgDKk/видео.html
Or maybe they should get this, hehe :D I don't know, but I've used brush cutter for thorny branches, yikes! Of course you have to use the right safety equipment from head to toe and to be mindfull of people around you. There isn't a lot of thorns in the stem of the bush. Sorry English isn't my first language so I might use wrong/silly words~ Thanks for the video link, it was interesting for me as well! I've only used one kind of blade at work :)
@@FlockFingerLakes That explains :D I was a bit confused. Thanks for the reply! Your project is inspiring and I'm really happy that people are following their dreams! :)
You could use goats.
We've found that nearly all the sheep/goats in the area are fully rented out to munch down nutrient rich grasses and legumes in the copious solar farms in the area. But may have to get a couple goats of our own!
Mark them with tall rods with a flag. Mark the flags with colors or numbers.
Is it not rosa rugosa?
Multiflora rose. This one: www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:927374-1
This is the best time of the year to remove stuff like that! Does this rosaflora spread through seeds or rhizomes?
Seeds, rhizomes, stems....You name it, the spread it.
My husband & I went through gallons of poison ivy killer in order to take down the poison ivy practically surrounding our land 😖 It’s definitely not something you can take care of in one go! Also providing other sources of food for the birds, hoping they don’t poop more poison ivy berry seeds on our property 😓 My husband had to basically get a hazmat suit bc when he went at it with an ax it would spray poison ivy sap/juice at him
We too had to get a hazmat suit style out when removing it from the community garden in Brooklyn. But yea, birds love and rely on the berries, so it's a tough go!
We have this stuff here in South West TN. That rose is nasty stuff!
Plant from hell is right!
Cordless hedge trimmer is pretty good too. Ohio is the same way, probably worse
I would buy an electric compost grinder and just shred all the rests of the rose plants and make mulch. It is so easy and fast.
I was wondering are you able to use as mulch as it’s a ‘alien’ plant?
@@kirstenverhoog239 It would just decompose once it's turned into chips but to make sure, you could remove all the seed pods first and burn those.
I belive its native for me, but I dont know if its this species.
It's native to the Asian continent (China, Japan, Korea), so it may very well be native to where you are.
You need rose gloves.
Rosa Multiflora is just like the Cherokee rose (Rosa laevigata) here in the south. Extremely invasive and dangerous. The thorns were massive!
Wasn't familiar with the Rosa laevigata. Keep it down where you are! haha! This one is a TON of work.
@@FlockFingerLakes my family and I planted one to grow along a fence along with some tea roses.... was not a good idea. So unruly. We eventually removed the rose but it will pop up occasionally here and there. Extremely resilient.
They make good plants for chicken coups since they grow faster than the hens can eat
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you should collab with @gardenanswer
That would be lovely.
Make sure your tetanus is up to date & have anti bacterial gel to had, rose thorns can infect any cut.
A plant from hell
Omg 😂😂
Dry out the rose hips and sell them to chinchilla owners like me! A favorite treat for the little fur balls. :)
At first I was like, let's turn this into tea. And then as I started to see HOW MUCH we had on the land, I realized I'd be overdosing on tea....But yes, plenty more where that came from. We'll likely do another cut and harvest and also burn this month or next.