S&S Performance Parts - Pushrod Adjustment - J&P Cycles
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Watch as Justin Bramstedt, Research Manager at S&S, explains what's happening when you adjust the pushrods in your bike. In this video you'll learn how to install and adjust pushrods, and how these adjustments affect your bike's motor. 
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Great video! I've been doing my own work for years, but haven't had to adjust pushrods in years and forgot how many turns to go, this was a perfect explanation
Thank you, thank you, thank you...FINALLY...after watching over half a dozen RUclips clips on this subject, I finally come across this one that was chock-full of ALL the info I needed...
I had no idea what sort (brand) of adjustable push-rods were in my Evo and of course with different manufacturers using different T.P.I. on their push-rods (Grrrrrr)...why they couldn't standardise them (?) = Dunno.... Anyhoo...Justin completely nailed it when describing the adjustment process...even down to mentioning at the end, how to adjust the ones (like mine) where the pedigree is unknown... Again, thank you Justin, and thank you S&S for this great video...and thank you J&P Cycles for posting it....
Great info! Id like to add that this information is for S&S pushrods. The TPI or Threads per inch vary from brand to brand.. you MUST know your TPI before attempting to adjust! The turns or "flats" WILL be different..
Thank you....just got 05 tc softail 19k miles and very pleased with this excellent overview...
Excellent explanation of how to adjust pushrods for hydraulic lifters. Didn't know about compression release on the exhaust cam for twinks or about the special push rod covers needed for s&s quickie pushrods. That will save me some grief.
Very informative, easy to follow, and he is a calm and concise speaker. Nice!
best info I seen here on RUclips. thank you for the explaining there at the end on how to adjust any pushrod. it worked for me on this bike I bought used
Great video. You do by far the best tutorial videos I have seen.
Great video. Very thorough, guy does a great job at teaching and explanations.
The best thing I learn from this video that helped me do my cams/ pushrods was when you spin the back wheel and the two front push rods are moving together then the rear push rods are on the bottom lobe and are ready to be adjusted; then just do the same for the other side
Exactly what I needed and nice work. Thanks J&P for the parts and instructions!
This guy is a great teacher!!! very detailed and awesome video. id love to get more of his videos!!
Me too Ashley...great orator and just full of facts...doesn't spend 15minutes showing how he took the covers off... I want the info, and I want it NOW !!! ... LoL
These videos are super clear,thank you and u should be proud
Great video. Gives me more confidence to do my own work.
41 Thumbs down?!!
Must be the guys working on their Honda Trail 70 and got on here by mistake.
Thanks for the video! Awesome work.
vintage 2 strokes lol
there prob only about 59 of them left. lol jk i have restored a few
Great video. Clear and accurate instructions. Thank you!!!!!
This might be a old video but its brilliant. Rather new to Harleys and i learned alot!
I had Starter/Crancking problems . Sorted. Thanks a milion!!!!!
I'm putting woods tw555 in my 07 heritage classic thank you for this
Your explanation has been more helpful and well detailed 👍
Thank you. I hope this is the same for an Evo!
Excellent tutorial, thank you.
I just redone moter now push rod is leaking don’t want to take all back apart u showed
Very good, complete and clear information
I also have the RIVERA ajustable push rods are those the same one turn off the the seated HL2T lifter as well
This was a great video, thanks!
Excellent Video. Thanks!
I have a 2014 heritage and I want to do a stage 2 upgrade. What are the item # for the cams and adjustable pushrods that would be good to use in my case? I was leaning towards the 570 cam.
Thanks
Do you have to remove the rocker box on the S&S 96 Evo engine?
Grat info well presemted
I have a 2005 S&S Evo 96" engine, Do I need to remove the rocker boxes to adjust the pushrods. I know the pushrod tubes are different than Harley stock pushrod tube covers,
I had a tap on my 1340 evo 1990 fatboy so I bought S&S lifters using the same Rivera tappet lite ajustable pushrods it was quiet for about 40 miles now it sounds like there is marbles in there WTF.
I limped her home last night from work at 1 am not wanting to rev it up at all ...
I'm wondering , will I gain anything by installing S&S Ez adjustable pushrods? I'm also wondering if one of my brand new lifters is crap.
Why does the S&S instructions say 4 turns or 24 flats but this video says 20 flats or 3 1/3 turns.
This guy works for S&S and is a great mechanic but on the flats has his info confused.
TWO YEARS LATER AND NO ANSWER FOR MY QUESTION !
So is the hydraulic push rods better than solid ones in a sense that they adjust to expansion from heat .
Watched this over and over,mainly because I suck at adjusting them,followed everything properly(I think) but still got the tap.. just installed Screaming Eagle Cam Plate,Hydraulic Tensioners,High Flo oil pump,Screaming Eagle Rods and Tubes(Screaming Eagle Rods 2 1/2 turns) I'm frustrated!! Video is very helpful though.. guess I'll go back and do it again for the 10th time
help im working on a 1992 flhs with an evo motor ,franken bike it has a shovelhead cam .how do I set timing
Do you have any concerns about the Jam nut working lose? Does the quickie push rod jam nut need to be checked after a period of time?
I have a 1990 fatboy with E46 cam I just bought the SS HL2T lifter kit My question is should I remove that limiter or solid hi rpm .maker or leave it ?
Does a stock 2003 FLH cam have the compression release trigger?
Does you have a video for M8 adjustment?
I have my rear cylinder at top dead center and can't rotate my pre existing pushrod, 2000 flhr carb,i did let the bike set and again i don't know what lifter and pushrods are in it now
Would improper adjustment cause backfire out the air filter,when cold starting. It only does it after the bike sits for awhile, it will idle then sputter and back fire out the intake and stall. But it will start right back up.
does anyone know if there is anyway to tell if your cam is a easy lift cam or...any cam other than original...my bike is used and altered greatly ,so i dont know and there is no way pof reaching the prev owner
Help I have 6000 miles on a build and was trying to adjust S&S pushrods while doing so my wrench broke parts of it fell within the tappet hole so I was forced to pull the tappets out I forgot to mark what order they came out in does it even matter can just put the tappets back in without knowledge of order the two tappets came out in
How long is the exaust pushrod for a 1999 sportster
thank you , I learn alot
Great video!
What comes with a S&S engine as far as pushrods?
S&s pushrod directions says 24 flats and he did 20 flats. So which one should I do? It's for a 05 electra glide classic.
Good morning 🌅, J&P , I am from the future 😂2024 , I have just recently purchased a 2003 Softail deuce, somebody has been inside it, and put in SS gear driven cams G510 , and they have left in the original cam plate, I cannot quite see whether the oil pump has been changed,
I have noticed that it seems to be very noisy , and I am thinking of stripping it all out and replacing cam plate, and obviously bearings plus new oil pump, and I believe that the engine has gone from 1450 to 1550, I’m not hundred percent sure because I cannot obviously check the ball and stroke without dismantling it, Do you think it’s worth stripping it completely and starting a scratch with new complete parts?, or shall I just change plate and bearings as necessary? France, I might have already asked this question, with you or somebody else,
1001 Thumbs up . I'm from South-Africa, and nobody can or wants to help. Even Harley Davidson don't want to speak to me.
Thank You!!!
Indeed they are!! I went to my local dealer and bought O rings!! Again do I need to cut the keepers????
No you should not need to.
if you use cork gaskeste soak them im oil firstover night
Nice job, thank you--1 quick question, with the S& S "Quickie push rod" is the intake rod a different length than the exhaust push rod?--or are both identical lengths?
On my 80 inch EVO, the intake push rods are shorter than the exhausts by about 1/8 inch. 2 different sizes.
I managed to break the cylinderhead. Supposingly the spring from new lifter had got stuck a bit and lifter ended up being too long when it filled and valves hit cross. I found changing them from top with originals, comes to cost the same, its not that time consuming and doesnt harm to have a look under the rockerbox either. How often you do this anyhow, every five yrs or so.
That SPRING would not have Done That.. You Adjusted one or Both Lifters Slightly on the LOBE.. Not to Worry ive Seen this Many times.. GOOD LUCK. 👍
so then.. its really 50 thou.. is the new target?
Great video, learned a great deal. When I look at my instructions it states 24 flats. I am using stock Harley lifters, what would be the best sweet spot for my 103 twin 2016? I noticed you did 20 flats. Thanks, Dave
The best sweet spot on the stock Harley lifters is the garbage can.
@@goodboyringo9716 the dudes asking an honest question why you gotta be like that
@@tommys2979 ... This is my opinion about Harleys . I didn't say anything out of the way . if you don't like it to bad. Stop being a cry baby.
@@goodboyringo9716 so which brand of lifter do you suggest?
@@Jkur2009 ... S&S lifters
Does anyone know if I can install the “Standard Adjustable” pushrods on my EVO without taking the rocker boxes off? It sounded like he said that you did. I want to know as I have the standards installed and have leaking pushrod tube o’rings. Thanks
On a EVO, you must have the Quickees or take the rocker covers off.
Go with the Quicky pushrods, Huge time saver because you dont have to remove the lifter covers. Removing the covers is not a big deal but aligining the pushrod when with the lifter cover is a major PIA. Almost no space and you have to be at the exact correct angle or it just will not work.
The S&S instructions for the height limiting says go four turns, 24 flats. Not 20.
They have like 14 different lifters. The naming and part numbers couldnt be more confusing over the years and i've lost track as to what the hell some of them are or were. Still a great product though haha!
In my opinion; most videos involving s&s quickies use 4 turns. Therefore making the valve train quieter.
Changing piston and jug on a 80 Evo to a big bore kit
92
wow goodinfo thanks
he explains 3 turns but the S&S paperwork shows 4 flats, could 1 full turn make a difference?
Now here's a guy who knows what he's doing. I've a strange rattle somewhere. In my original search I find that compensating nut is loose, clutch spline stripped, hub is spider webbed and bearing is making rough noise and clutch discs were worn into hub segments. New clutch and tight compensate nut and less noise but still a strange rattle. 25,000miles on this 124 TC and I'm wondering if this normal.
Funny, I have kind'a similar story. 1995 Evo with a cyclic" knock/clackity clack". Sounds like its coming from Compensating Sprocket. Replaced Spring pack- all else looked good. Still had that knock.
Watched/listened with primary cover off... looked like chain stretch and noise was from some slap. (from chain flap itself- not against the inner case). To check I slightly over-tightened primary chain. That seemed to lower the knock. But with the quieter primary, I am hearing just as much clacking noise from the right side-loudest at rocker boxes ?! Its hard to narrow it down-especially with loud pipes, even using a scope.
Regardless, have to now consider the noise is from valve train. I have not yet replaced the stock cam bearing with the Torrington. Since I am also getting some " intake farts", and dead-spot on acceleration from a stop, It is pointing to a lifter problem. Has that darn primary noise been covering up the lifter noise all along? Will find out when I start pulling the boxes and nose cone off.
Any comments appreciated. Low mileage = 35K
my lifters sound good till the oil get's hot then the front rocker go's clack clack clack , im thinking my lifter is bleeding down , doe's that sound about right ,this is my first Harley so im just guessing that 's what's going on. it's a 1340 evo , please let me know if you think im on the right trail so I can order some lifters , I don't have much loot so I was looking at the comp thunder lifters in your catalog .
jojojeep1 I'm having the same problem you just described on my 2005 twin cam. was it the lifters bleeding down like you suspected?
so what if you adjust it to 24 flats and still cannot turn the pushrod when the lifters bleeds down and you do not have limited travel lifters? Do you back off the adjustment until it turns?
In same boat, find an answer?
If you wait 1/2 hour and the push rod still won't turn, the valve is open. DO NOT proceed unless the push rod turn with your fingers.
I have these pushrods and of course your S&S gears on my 2003 Electra glide classic anniversary and have never looked back and never any issues f the twin came remove the BS your be very happy.
Vary well done thanks but if you have done all that 10 times plus put in a fueling set up beehive springs plate chain drive oil pump and roller rockers and you still have top end radial.
I have a Crane HTC 300-2 cam only a 505 lift,. I have had the thing apart 5 times looking for something broken I have replaced every part in there trying to find the bad part. except the cams. Is the problem the profile of these 300-2 cams?
its is the only thing I can think of. this is not my first rodeo I'v done many twin cam upgrades with way more radical cams and never had this much noise.
is this the same way i would adjust my push rods on a 96 1200 sporster ita got hydrolic lifters and adjustable lifters
I'm assuming you mean adjustable pushrods. Most of the adjustable units are the same basic adjustment.
I have a sportster, 2002, 1200, I'm thinking about replacing my Cam Cover. (It's all flaking the chrome)
Does S&S make adjustable push rods for my 1200?
I'm thinking that might be easier than pulling my rocker boxes. My rocker box's are not leaking, I don't want to disturb them.
Harley Dealership Replaced the rocker gaskets Circa 2008. Haven't ridden It a Whole heck of a lot since then. (10,000 miles maybe)
Do you happen to have a video like this, only on a 1200 Sportster, Frame mount motor. I think from research, 1995 to 2003 was the same Cam/gear cover.
While I'm in there, (If I decide to change the Cover) Is there a good "Mild Cam" Set I can install That will give me some Low to mid performance. I have Vance and Hines Pipes, (Like long shots I think) and screaming Eagle Air filter.
If I put a set of mild cams "Geared" for low to mid range, would I likely need to re jet?
I'd want cams that will "Go right in" (Don't want to have to modify the case, like I saw on another video)
a great cam set for what you are looking to do is the S&S .482, its a straight drop in , no modification needed. Yes you can use the S&S quickee pushrods and you wont have to disassemble the rockers.
Cams
www.jpcycles.com/product/714-584/s-s-cycle-482-camshaft-set?redirectedKeyword=330-0189&totalResult=1
Pushrods
www.jpcycles.com/product/420-307/s-s-cycle-quickee-pushrods
Is there any concerns about the jam nut backing out and the pushrod coming loose? Or, is it safe to assume that when the jam nut is tightened against the pushrod it will not come loose. Thanks.
It's a legit concern but I have never seen it happen. You could use a little blue thread locker on the jam nut if you wanted.
- Patrick
Use two 7/16 wrenches to lock the nut to the S&S quickee push rod and it will stay there for years.
How does a LT-2 kit compare with hydro solid lifters.
How do I make sure the jam nut stays tight and doesn’t back out?
Use two 7/16 wrenches to lock the nut to the S&S quickee push rod and it will stay there for years.
If my push rods were set at 16 flats and should of been 10 flats . Would that be enough difference to not get correct compression to get spark and not fire at all ?
whats the part# for that quickie pushrod kit????? does anyone know??? I have a RGC with a 103 engine
www.jpcycles.com/product/445-248 will take you to the part on our site.
juan castr
thank you you saved my A#@
very nice ride fellow!
The written instructions from S&S say 4 full turns, which would be .125”. Which is correct?
This is the question I have . What is correct ?
Good boy Ringo I called S&S and they said 4 full turns. That’s what I did and it works fine.
@@joet3408 ... Thank you .
Do you need to cut the keeper?? I've installed a set of quickie push rods and all they had done is leak!!!
I use S&S push rod tubes with my Quikies and have never had a leak.
How do push rods leak? Are you talking about the push rod cover o-rings leaking?
what do you mean by base circle of the cam??
Same as the "heel" of the cam. Basically 180 deg. opposite the lobe centerline of the cam.
When the piston is all the way to the top of the cylinder and both valves are closed.
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I don't know of any Harleys that have a center stand.
How much are quick push rod
Look for S&S quickee pushrods on Amazon or ebay.
I been watching videos on this for an hour and I’m still confused
6:42 Theory is over. The procedure begins.
Well I wish I could say the same cause there leaking like a cyst!!!
Check for a pinched o ring is my best advice without being there. Good luck. Cysts are nasty.
How does a person know "IF" the hydro has bled down before the push rod is to be adjusted? In other words, How do you know if it is pumped up or not before adjusing?
these adjustments are to be made on a COLD engine.. so the only "pumping up" of the tappet that should be happening is you turning the engine over to make sure you are on the base of the cam. Shouldn't have to worry about it too much. I always spin the pushrod before loosening the lock nut.. if it spins freely.. should be good to adjust.
on the other hand.. once you've adjusted the pushrod.. you MUST wait till you can spin the pushrod you just adjusted freely again..using just your oily fingers before you move on to the next cylinder.
one more thing.. this info is for S&S pushrod.. the TPI or Thread per inch varies from brand to brand.. you need to know what TPI yours are before attempting to adjust.. Its easy to figure.. remove one of your pushrods.. use a measuring tape and measure 1 inch of threads and mark with tape to hold your spot. Count the threads in the measured area.. this will give you your Threads per inch.. then look up the specs for adjusting.. ie how many "flats" to turn down..
The ideas behind the math of flats , wasn’t really explained. If six flats is one complete revolution , you divide the total number of flats , by 6 , to calculate complete turns. Hence 24 flats equals 4 complete turns. Combinations of complete turns and remaining odd flats. 21 flats equals 21/6 or 3 1/2 turns.
Your math is correct. The only variable is threads per inch on the push rods. S&S quickees are 32 TPI, or .03125 per full turn (6 flats)
Mindblown. Remove the rocker box it is 😂
Wouldn't that be 18.75 turns? based upon the numbers you gave....Just slaying... (100,000 / 32,000) = 3.125 Rotations * 6 flats per rotation = 18.75 flats
WHATS with the Flats?? SIMPLY Mark the Pushrod with a Sharpie and do Full Turns.
Who has two 7/16 in their tool box lol
I do and its cheap
Why are Harleys always in a thousand pieces on RUclips. Are they very unreliable? Is this Murican iron at its best?
cosgrove notts never had to work on mine just upgrades and I'm not real easy on it
I bought a spare Harley since I am always working on one of them.