Good video Matt. You always find the "bargain lenses" that perform great. Talking about expensive, couple of minutes ago Math released a video where he shows his new Leica Noctilux-M 50/0.95 "TITAN" | 100pc Limited Special Edition Gorgeous lens, he's got it before the release date, number 5 of 100. Thanks for sharing and how about some Voigtlander lenses, been a while ;-)
I will recommend to go for either the Leica Elmarit-R 135mm 2.8 (II) from the 1990´s or the Elmarit-M 135mm 2.8 (III) from the 1990´s. An "unknown" little gem is the Elmar-R 180mm 4.0, it is compact and light and you can find them cheap if your are quick.
These affordable shockingly render beautiful images that seems unreal for their price. I picked up a 90mm Elmar collapsible at my local camera store the day after I purchased my M240, $130 in M mount. Sure it is a bit slower, but the compactness and and price point put the "Leica expensive" theory right out the door. Two weeks ago when I was in the DC Leica store, casually browsing, and I asked if they have any vintage glass, the sales rep opened a draw, five lenes laid there with $50 and $90 labeled on their bag. I jokingly asked, "is that just for the back cap?" The sales rep laughed. The are all rigid 90 Elmar and 135 Hektor, $50 for M mount and $90 for LTM. So, I cannot resisted and purchased a copy of the 135mm for $50, AT A LEICA STORE!!!
Great Video extolling the virtues of a much ignored focal length: I have an Apo-Telyt M 135/3.4 from 2001: As age diminished my Eyesight the Rangefiners were confined to Wider Angles only. The advent of the SL Camera has once again made this a viable option. Keep well and Stay safe: 👍🇬🇧
I like your videos, Matt! how do you like shooting a R lens on a leica-m with a visoflex? Does that make any sence to you? i am thinking of buying a visoflex typ 020 for my m10-P, just to be able to use my leica R lenses (summicron-r 2/90mm and summilux-r 50mm). I'm afraid of loosing the actual purpose of a rangefinder camera. currently, love shooting daily street photography with my Tele-Elmar-M f4/135. super sharp, compact and different way of framing.
Thanks! Yes I did the same with my M240.. Let's say it gives the camera a dual purpose.. keep it small with small M glass for RF use and make it like an SLR with bigger lenses and EVF for long lenses, close focus, cheaper R lenses etc. You already have the leases so I think yes it's a no brainer.
Excellent video. Recently I found a 90mm and a 135mm Elmarit-R for my Leicaflex SL. Pretty cheap and built like a tank. You can‘t go wrong for 200€ for a Leica lens in good shape.
I paid 227 and 375 respectively for the Elmarit-R 135mm and Elmarit-R 90mm. I have used the 90 mostly but these two lenses are fantastic. Also have used the 35mm and 50mm Voigtlander M lenses. I use all these on my SL. I’m extremely happy with these lenses. No real need for anything else. With the 35/50/90 I have most areas covered and total investment was less than 1500 for three amazing lenses. And to cover a wider view I picked up an older Minolta Rokkor-X 24mm. It also takes great shots. Toss in all the other LTM lenses I own and I see no need to take out a second mortgage to own a lens. Thank you Matt for this video and deep dive. I know in the past that you have been fair about covering a wide range of costs and quality. I realize there are lots of different categories of shooters out there and I appreciate when you take the time to speak to those of us that might not be huge spenders on gear.
My one and only Leica lens that I own for my M9 is the 90mm Elmar C. It is very reasonably priced and ridiculously sharp. A fantastic lens for the money. I use Voigtlander for everything else.
I just got a Summicron R 50mm f2 and the Elmarit R 135mm 2.8 both for around 400usd in great shape and the built and IQ wow! I am using them on a Fuji GFX and Fuji X-Pro 1.
Wow, thanks a lot Matt! I had no idea these were so affordable. I pulled the trigger right away and ordered an Elmarit-M 135mm with goggles. I'm looking forward to putting it to work on one of my M3s. 😊
Hi Matt, another fun video!! Just curious...would you have ANY idea about how large of an image circle the Leica "R" lenses have? I'm thinking about adapting them to the GFX family...I have a GFX100, but just scored an older and smaller GFX 50R and was thinking the R lenses might be a good mate with that, especially since I plan to pretty much keep the one set to the Xpan aspect ratio. Anyway...any ideas on finding out the largest image circle R lenses or how to find out? What are your favorite "R" lenses for sharpness, speed, etc? Thank you in advance, CC
HI, sorry I thought I'd already replied to this. I'm not sure TBH, you'll need to do some reading. I think the 90mm Elmar lens does cover MF FYI. R lenses are great so perhaps check the Fuji forums. See the MrLeica.com detailed post on R lenses, likes and what I use. Search Leica R lenses in the search bar on the Home Screen.
I use the 90mm Elmar and 135mm Elmar on my TL2. The first is incredibly modest in size, compared to my TL lenses. The 135 mm is in no way inferior to my 55-135 zoom TL lens (set to 135 mm) and is very easy to work with.
Love the channel and your Insta Matt! Could you please do some more CL content when you have the chance... do you have any TL lenses? I'm currenty saving for the 35mm!
Thanks Martin! I did a lot of CL blog posts - MrLeica.com and videos in the past. I did one recently in Vegas but generally there is less interest in this model so videos never do well. I used to use the 18 (see video) but sold it as I prefer small M lenses for me. The 35 is excellent.
If you really want (or need) to use a 135mm lens on an M camera, the older 135mm f/2.8 Elmarit is worth considering. It is big and dorky-looking with its “goggles” viewfinder attachment, but the goggles magnify the viewing image by 1.4x, which pretty much solves the mentioned problems of tiny viewing image, tiny rangefinder image, and limited focusing accuracy. It also has a tripod socket, so you can stick it on a monopod to help absorb the ample weight. I never owned one, but was a newspaper drudge back in the 1980s, so could sometimes borrow gear through Leica's midwestern US rep. When famous ballet dancer Mikhail Baryshnikov came to town on his first US tour, his agent told me I could take pictures of his warmup, but I could not distract him or make ANY noise or Baryshnikov would have me chucked out of the theater. I borrowed the Elmarit to use on my M-4P, hid in the balcony with the setup on a monopod, shot through the railings, and got my photos with no problems. Unfortunately, they were boring photos because Baryshnikov did a boring warmup… I should have stuck around and concentrated on the stunning ballerina Susan Jaffe, of whom I only got one photo because I had to go back to work…
Another great review Matt, every now and then I take out an old Elmar 90 or 135 and pop them on a film or digital M, and even a Barnack, and just enjoy their characteristics, this video has prompted to take one of those lenses out tomorrow. Best wishes from Dublin.
Hey Matt With regards to the M system, cheap can be expensive Because of the size and weight, the 135mm it ruins the cosmetic and easy use appeal of the rangefinder People would be better off saving a little more and getting a cheaper 75 or 90mm option otherwise the 135 will be rarely or never used and the traded or sold in the long run- that’s why they’re cheap Just my thoughts All the very best
Great advice, yes agreed, as mentioned in the video 135mm is not great fun with a RF camera. Agree, pay a little more for a more functional lens like the old 90 Elmar I have.
Hey wait so i can buy Leica r 90mm for my m4 with adapter and focus to infinity? Sorry i have so much information. Can You tell me this? Becouse this is really important for me. I owned Leicaflex and it really have good glass so if it is a chance i will go for it.
Yes BUT you need to hope the adapter is accurate so infinity is true infinity. This is better with a 24mm Leica R lens than a 90mm R as you have more depth to play with but you can try it.
I will recommend to go for either the Leica Elmarit-R 135mm 2.8 (II) from the 1990´s or the Elmarit-M 135mm 2.8 (III) from the 1990´s. An "unknown" little gem is the Elmar-R 180mm 4.0, it is compact and light and you can find them cheap if your are quick.
I ran into this when I was shopping for LTM compatible Serenar lenses, learned that the wide angle lenses are much more expensive because Leica collectors want them. If you do portraits or telephoto, 100-135 lenses are like 30-50% the price. Parallax could be an issue, though, if you aren't used to it
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom thankfully the included Serenar ones do the same! They can add a lot to the price though, so I do have a Leitz VIOOH just in case. It's a lot harder to see through than a bright line finder but it does the trick
There are some reports that the Elmar 135 is actually a Sonar formula. I have a Zeis Sonar 135 for my Contax iia red dial and I find it a very good lens for my purposes. I had a Hektar for my iiif. It was just OK.
I scored a brand new 50 summarit 50 2.4 to go with my m3., just before they discontinued the lens. Happy customer. And 1 week ago, got an xvario with the elmarit 28-70 equivalent … total bargain, brilliant travel companion
For even more affordable options, take a look at Leitz projector lenses. You can get a Colorplan 90/2.5 for below 50 pounds, if you don't mind some tweaking to make it work on a camera, that is.
I don’t own any R lenses, but for the less expensive M lenses, I like my 90 mm Tele-Elmarit f/2.8 thin version, 135 mm Tele-Elmar f/4 and the 35 mm Summaron f/2.8 lenses. All are easy to carry for traveling.
Man when it comes to Leica lenses, the wider they go the crazier the prices get. If we are talking used, the collectible prices are insane. If you look at all the 35 Summicrons for example. If you test them all side by side from v1 to the ASPH v2, you’ll find SMALL differences between them. Obviously the ASPH get a little sharper and a little better corners. But for every day casual use you can say they’re pretty much almost all the same. Yet a v4 KOB costs about as much as a new Summicron ASPH. Leica pricing is nuts. 😀 Anyway. This is a good video because anyone who shoots only rangefinders knows once in a while you wish you had a long lens, so this is a good lens to just keep and use it a couple of times a year when you need it. It costs nothing. It’s a special use lens for sure. If you want a more practical lens but also that gives you a good telephoto range you can get a 90mm. Sounds like it’s too much but actually 85mm can be quite practical for what it is. A practical telephoto. You could even do some interesting street photography with a 90mm. I’m thinking at some point I can add a third lens. 35-50 and 90mm.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom hopefully it is similar to the 28 Summicron where it’s sharp but doesn’t overdo it with the contrast. 35 Summicron is probably the most popular lens yet there aren’t many reviews of it on RUclips.
That 135 Elmar is a great lens! Some of the smoothest bokeh out there and really sharp too. Even Ken Rockwell thinks it's the best value for money Leica lens in the world😁 I also have the Elmarit with the goggles🥸
I went for the Minolta 40mm instead for better contrast but yes if we are talking only Leica then it's a nice size and cheaper than 35mm. Yes I use lots of Canon LTM lenses. See all those videos.
Just what I thought. If it was any more expensive I wouldn't have bought it, but it is a very nice lens for portraits, a nice addition to my collection
❤👍 i have the 135 Art. But After your video i will look for a R even i have only one hand left. If you want to have Holiday in germany, you Are welcome for less. Maybe you visit Wetzlar(new S ??)- (45-50 minutes far away). Not very comfortable here in 2024, in 2025 👍because of renovation. But it is ok. Greets, Carsten from the old Villa Petersberg near Koblenz
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Good video Matt.
You always find the "bargain lenses" that perform great.
Talking about expensive, couple of minutes ago Math released a video where he shows his new Leica Noctilux-M 50/0.95 "TITAN" | 100pc Limited Special Edition
Gorgeous lens, he's got it before the release date, number 5 of 100.
Thanks for sharing and how about some Voigtlander lenses, been a while ;-)
I will recommend to go for either the Leica Elmarit-R 135mm 2.8 (II) from the 1990´s or the Elmarit-M 135mm 2.8 (III) from the 1990´s. An "unknown" little gem is the Elmar-R 180mm 4.0, it is compact and light and you can find them cheap if your are quick.
Hello sir, Do you know if does these lenses can adopted on sony e mount with an adaptor...? Thank you.
Hi, if you can find a Leica R - Sony adapter then yes. (If you can mount it it will work)
These affordable shockingly render beautiful images that seems unreal for their price. I picked up a 90mm Elmar collapsible at my local camera store the day after I purchased my M240, $130 in M mount. Sure it is a bit slower, but the compactness and and price point put the "Leica expensive" theory right out the door.
Two weeks ago when I was in the DC Leica store, casually browsing, and I asked if they have any vintage glass, the sales rep opened a draw, five lenes laid there with $50 and $90 labeled on their bag. I jokingly asked, "is that just for the back cap?" The sales rep laughed. The are all rigid 90 Elmar and 135 Hektor, $50 for M mount and $90 for LTM. So, I cannot resisted and purchased a copy of the 135mm for $50, AT A LEICA STORE!!!
Thanks impressive Rex..and brilliant question you asked, I often joke about the £50 caps!
Great Video extolling the virtues of a much ignored focal length: I have an Apo-Telyt M 135/3.4 from 2001: As age diminished my Eyesight the Rangefiners were confined to Wider Angles only. The advent of the SL Camera has once again made this a viable option. Keep well and Stay safe: 👍🇬🇧
Thanks Dave!
I like your videos, Matt!
how do you like shooting a R lens on a leica-m with a visoflex? Does that make any sence to you?
i am thinking of buying a visoflex typ 020 for my m10-P, just to be able to use my leica R lenses (summicron-r 2/90mm and summilux-r 50mm). I'm afraid of loosing the actual purpose of a rangefinder camera. currently, love shooting daily street photography with my Tele-Elmar-M f4/135. super sharp, compact and different way of framing.
Thanks! Yes I did the same with my M240.. Let's say it gives the camera a dual purpose.. keep it small with small M glass for RF use and make it like an SLR with bigger lenses and EVF for long lenses, close focus, cheaper R lenses etc. You already have the leases so I think yes it's a no brainer.
Excellent video.
Recently I found a 90mm and a 135mm Elmarit-R for my Leicaflex SL. Pretty cheap and built like a tank. You can‘t go wrong for 200€ for a Leica lens in good shape.
Thanks and yes agreed!
I paid 227 and 375 respectively for the Elmarit-R 135mm and Elmarit-R 90mm. I have used the 90 mostly but these two lenses are fantastic. Also have used the 35mm and 50mm Voigtlander M lenses. I use all these on my SL. I’m extremely happy with these lenses. No real need for anything else. With the 35/50/90 I have most areas covered and total investment was less than 1500 for three amazing lenses. And to cover a wider view I picked up an older Minolta Rokkor-X 24mm. It also takes great shots. Toss in all the other LTM lenses I own and I see no need to take out a second mortgage to own a lens. Thank you Matt for this video and deep dive. I know in the past that you have been fair about covering a wide range of costs and quality. I realize there are lots of different categories of shooters out there and I appreciate when you take the time to speak to those of us that might not be huge spenders on gear.
Thanks Peter, no problem and yes you don't need to send a fortune to enjoy a very nice Leica SL + lenses setup.
My one and only Leica lens that I own for my M9 is the 90mm Elmar C. It is very reasonably priced and ridiculously sharp. A fantastic lens for the money. I use Voigtlander for everything else.
Great choice! You probably saw I have the LTM 90/4 and it's really good for the money.
I also have this lens use it on my SL2-S, very sharp, lovely bokeh and compression, lightweight and cost me £250. Bargain!
I just got a Summicron R 50mm f2 and the Elmarit R 135mm 2.8 both for around 400usd in great shape and the built and IQ wow! I am using them on a Fuji GFX and Fuji X-Pro 1.
Congrats! Yes R lenses give a great look. I've used them on my Lumix S5 too and they give a Leica look even on that camera.
Your pictures helped making my mind and I am impressed by the sharpness specially on the Summicron👍@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
Wow, thanks a lot Matt! I had no idea these were so affordable. I pulled the trigger right away and ordered an Elmarit-M 135mm with goggles. I'm looking forward to putting it to work on one of my M3s. 😊
No problem James! Happy to help. Enjoy!
Hi Matt, another fun video!!
Just curious...would you have ANY idea about how large of an image circle the Leica "R" lenses have?
I'm thinking about adapting them to the GFX family...I have a GFX100, but just scored an older and smaller GFX 50R and was thinking the R lenses might be a good mate with that, especially since I plan to pretty much keep the one set to the Xpan aspect ratio.
Anyway...any ideas on finding out the largest image circle R lenses or how to find out?
What are your favorite "R" lenses for sharpness, speed, etc?
Thank you in advance,
CC
HI, sorry I thought I'd already replied to this. I'm not sure TBH, you'll need to do some reading. I think the 90mm Elmar lens does cover MF FYI. R lenses are great so perhaps check the Fuji forums. See the MrLeica.com detailed post on R lenses, likes and what I use. Search Leica R lenses in the search bar on the Home Screen.
I use the 90mm Elmar and 135mm Elmar on my TL2. The first is incredibly modest in size, compared to my TL lenses. The 135 mm is in no way inferior to my 55-135 zoom TL lens (set to 135 mm) and is very easy to work with.
Great! Yes I love the small size of the 90 especially.
Love the channel and your Insta Matt! Could you please do some more CL content when you have the chance... do you have any TL lenses? I'm currenty saving for the 35mm!
Thanks Martin! I did a lot of CL blog posts - MrLeica.com and videos in the past. I did one recently in Vegas but generally there is less interest in this model so videos never do well. I used to use the 18 (see video) but sold it as I prefer small M lenses for me. The 35 is excellent.
If you really want (or need) to use a 135mm lens on an M camera, the older 135mm f/2.8 Elmarit is worth considering. It is big and dorky-looking with its “goggles” viewfinder attachment, but the goggles magnify the viewing image by 1.4x, which pretty much solves the mentioned problems of tiny viewing image, tiny rangefinder image, and limited focusing accuracy. It also has a tripod socket, so you can stick it on a monopod to help absorb the ample weight.
I never owned one, but was a newspaper drudge back in the 1980s, so could sometimes borrow gear through Leica's midwestern US rep. When famous ballet dancer Mikhail Baryshnikov came to town on his first US tour, his agent told me I could take pictures of his warmup, but I could not distract him or make ANY noise or Baryshnikov would have me chucked out of the theater. I borrowed the Elmarit to use on my M-4P, hid in the balcony with the setup on a monopod, shot through the railings, and got my photos with no problems. Unfortunately, they were boring photos because Baryshnikov did a boring warmup… I should have stuck around and concentrated on the stunning ballerina Susan Jaffe, of whom I only got one photo because I had to go back to work…
Thanks James! Great tip and story. Yes I forgot to mention I use the 1.4x with 50mm+ but great the 135 comes with one.
Another great review Matt, every now and then I take out an old Elmar 90 or 135 and pop them on a film or digital M, and even a Barnack, and just enjoy their characteristics, this video has prompted to take one of those lenses out tomorrow. Best wishes from Dublin.
Thanks Jim, great! Yes I use the 90 Elmar more, especially on RF cameras, then the 135 on the SL. Have a good shoot in Dublin!
Hey Matt
With regards to the M system, cheap can be expensive
Because of the size and weight, the 135mm it ruins the cosmetic and easy use appeal of the rangefinder
People would be better off saving a little more and getting a cheaper 75 or 90mm option otherwise the 135 will be rarely or never used and the traded or sold in the long run- that’s why they’re cheap
Just my thoughts
All the very best
Great advice, yes agreed, as mentioned in the video 135mm is not great fun with a RF camera. Agree, pay a little more for a more functional lens like the old 90 Elmar I have.
The 135m apo-telyt r is amazing
Thanks Adam, noted!
Great advice, as always! Thanks Matt📷
Thanks Lucy!
is there an adaptor for the Elmarit to Nikon Z ?
If you can't get Leica R -Z get Leica R-Leica M then Leica M-Z and use 2 adapters
Hey wait so i can buy Leica r 90mm for my m4 with adapter and focus to infinity? Sorry i have so much information. Can You tell me this? Becouse this is really important for me. I owned Leicaflex and it really have good glass so if it is a chance i will go for it.
Yes BUT you need to hope the adapter is accurate so infinity is true infinity. This is better with a 24mm Leica R lens than a 90mm R as you have more depth to play with but you can try it.
t @MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
Thank You so much Matt for Your time. You made my day i guess
Now i will try to find good adapter.
Really Best Whishes ^^
I will recommend to go for either the Leica Elmarit-R 135mm 2.8 (II) from the 1990´s or the Elmarit-M 135mm 2.8 (III) from the 1990´s. An "unknown" little gem is the Elmar-R 180mm 4.0, it is compact and light and you can find them cheap if your are quick.
Yes! The 180mm is the other cheap Leica R lens. Too long for me but I looked many times!
I ran into this when I was shopping for LTM compatible Serenar lenses, learned that the wide angle lenses are much more expensive because Leica collectors want them. If you do portraits or telephoto, 100-135 lenses are like 30-50% the price. Parallax could be an issue, though, if you aren't used to it
Yes! Agree parallax can be an issue on the older cameras but if you use the Leica finders they correct for it.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom thankfully the included Serenar ones do the same! They can add a lot to the price though, so I do have a Leitz VIOOH just in case. It's a lot harder to see through than a bright line finder but it does the trick
There are some reports that the Elmar 135 is actually a Sonar formula.
I have a Zeis Sonar 135 for my Contax iia red dial and I find it a very good lens for my purposes.
I had a Hektar for my iiif. It was just OK.
Thanks, I'm not sure about it being a Sonnar but thanks for your feedback on the Hektor. I've not use that.
I scored a brand new 50 summarit 50 2.4 to go with my m3., just before they discontinued the lens. Happy customer.
And 1 week ago, got an xvario with the elmarit 28-70 equivalent … total bargain, brilliant travel companion
Smart purchasing!
Have you ever tried the 135 Elmarit-M with the goggles? Would it be similar to the R version?
Hi Thomas I’ve not. It should be similar and possibly better.
For even more affordable options, take a look at Leitz projector lenses. You can get a Colorplan 90/2.5 for below 50 pounds, if you don't mind some tweaking to make it work on a camera, that is.
Ah yes cool! I have one actually, I bought for my 4x5 cameras. It's a Leitz ..hmm I forget now, 100mm ish
I don’t own any R lenses, but for the less expensive M lenses, I like my 90 mm Tele-Elmarit f/2.8 thin version, 135 mm Tele-Elmar f/4 and the 35 mm Summaron f/2.8 lenses. All are easy to carry for traveling.
Yes! The same idea. Nice. The longer lenses are usually cheaper.
Man when it comes to Leica lenses, the wider they go the crazier the prices get. If we are talking used, the collectible prices are insane. If you look at all the 35 Summicrons for example. If you test them all side by side from v1 to the ASPH v2, you’ll find SMALL differences between them. Obviously the ASPH get a little sharper and a little better corners. But for every day casual use you can say they’re pretty much almost all the same. Yet a v4 KOB costs about as much as a new Summicron ASPH.
Leica pricing is nuts. 😀
Anyway. This is a good video because anyone who shoots only rangefinders knows once in a while you wish you had a long lens, so this is a good lens to just keep and use it a couple of times a year when you need it. It costs nothing. It’s a special use lens for sure.
If you want a more practical lens but also that gives you a good telephoto range you can get a 90mm. Sounds like it’s too much but actually 85mm can be quite practical for what it is. A practical telephoto. You could even do some interesting street photography with a 90mm. I’m thinking at some point I can add a third lens. 35-50 and 90mm.
Thanks Carlos, I still need to post my 35mm Cron video.. to come. Agree 90mm is the sweet spot for longer RF lenses.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom hopefully it is similar to the 28 Summicron where it’s sharp but doesn’t overdo it with the contrast.
35 Summicron is probably the most popular lens yet there aren’t many reviews of it on RUclips.
Do you have any opinions or noticed any differences between the 3 CAM 135 Elmarit R lenses made in Germany and the one made in Canada?
Hi, no I think with most Leica lenses, Germany ones cost more but they perform the same. Some of my best Leica lenses are Canada models.
That 135 Elmar is a great lens! Some of the smoothest bokeh out there and really sharp too. Even Ken Rockwell thinks it's the best value for money Leica lens in the world😁
I also have the Elmarit with the goggles🥸
Yes! Great value for sure.. and the M version too. Nice!
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Yeah, I have both M and R versions of the Elmarit. The goggles are kinda fun😄
I prefer Leica Lens 105 f.6.3 is fantastic
Nice, i've not tried that one
Thanks Matt...
Thanks!
A real service, this one.
Thanks!
40mm Summicron-C. Shhhhhhh. Also, adapted Canon LTM lenses
I went for the Minolta 40mm instead for better contrast but yes if we are talking only Leica then it's a nice size and cheaper than 35mm. Yes I use lots of Canon LTM lenses. See all those videos.
I just bought an Elmarit-R for €100. Great lens, a bit heavy
Great!! Yes not ideal for travel but good value.
Just what I thought. If it was any more expensive I wouldn't have bought it, but it is a very nice lens for portraits, a nice addition to my collection
❤👍 i have the 135 Art. But After your video i will look for a R even i have only one hand left. If you want to have Holiday in germany, you Are welcome for less. Maybe you visit Wetzlar(new S ??)- (45-50 minutes far away). Not very comfortable here in 2024, in 2025 👍because of renovation. But it is ok.
Greets, Carsten from the old Villa Petersberg near Koblenz
Thanks very kind!