Parents Who Kill: A Deep Dive
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- Опубликовано: 7 июл 2023
- #CourtTV's Vinnie Politan takes a closer look at high-profile cases where parents were convicted of murdering their children.
Chad Doerman appeared in court this week for a pretrial hearing, charged with executing his three young sons in Ohio.
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Our system is broken. When lawyers can lie in court without evidence and someone like Casey Anthony walks free, the system is broken. Also it’s a rich man’s chess game.
So many criminals walking free and innocent people behind bars as well
No one will ever make me feel empathy for a parent who murders a child.
Agreed! Whether they did it out of spite or insanity. They have no business breathing, the same air as anyone on earth.
Post partum psychosis is a very real thing. It isn't right to lump them all in the same black/white category. I don't subscribe to that simplistic way of thinking. The world is full of grayscale and nuance. To not recognize that is just way too easy.
I agree normally but have a certain level of compassion when there’s untreated post-natal illness involved because when they ARE treated & medicated to recover,they have to live with tbe reality of what they have done.
My Aunt didn’t injure her son but has had shock treatments & NEVER been right…my cousin is nearly 60
You’re so right! I’ve got no compassion for these murderers. Their own children, and the last dad, Chad D, who killed his 3 boys on Father’s Day. For him to mow plead not guilty when he didn’t snap, he methodically planned it. The mom who sent the dad out & then killed all 3 kids & jumped out the window a few months ago. I have not a single tear for any of these monsters. They need to be locked away from society, for the rest of their lives.
No. I would like to know the why. Clues would say a divorce was imminent. A mother who got pregnant at 17, showing irresponsible and reckless sexual behavior. Did he get a DNA test and find his "sons" were not his? In a divorce, he loses everything and then pays child support for kids that aren't even his. It would be a hard pill to swallow, your life is effectively over at that point. And rationalizing these actions albeit wrong, makes sense.
He should have taken his gun to himself
He’s too much of a coward.
Coward
@@MycatMerpexactly
You forgot Chris Watts he killed 2 of his daughter which was sad by the way he did that...
Oh believe me, I have been thinking about Chris Watts since this tragedy hit the airwaves. And I really believe Chad's defense is going to be that Laura is the one that shot the boys, or something along those lines. Basically, Chad will try and throw HIS wife, Laura under the bus and put blame on her JUST LIKE Chris Watts did with Shannan. Everybody knows Shannan did not kill those little girls. Yet, even today there are still people that believe that ridiculous BS.... and I think we are about to see the same thing happen here in this case. Doerman's defense will be to throw Laura under the bus. Just watch.
I was thinking the same thing !! Chris watts !
Yes , let’s not forget Shanann and the baby boy in her womb . Watts is a monster .
F.......k that Watts b...........ard was some ........
Horrible
Narcissistic and controlling personalities is the perfect recipe from what I’ve seen
Death penalty is best punishment for this cold blood murder
NO Death Penalty here. They havent been able to get the lethal injections for 5 years. The last person the gave the injection to took 33 years on death row. Ohio cannot get the injections so they are voting to remove the DP
Hopefully he doesn't make it to trial.
@@D38401 he is going to trial. Why would you think he isnt having one
Those kinds of monsters need to be off the streets
@@mariemazzo896 because I'm sure there are people in jail who don't care for what he did. And don't care if they get more time.
While I feel that some men kill the little ones to get back at the wife, make her suffer, take what she loves the most, others such as Watts and Coleman want a fresh start without the perceived “baggage.” 😔
Those kill the wives too. They are family annihilators.
That's the category that the Dr described that Susan Smith did because her boyfriend/lover didn't want children.
I worked many yrs in this field as well as treating children suffering from trauma & abuse. I can tell you that I am glad I am now retired bc many of these acts of terrorism still haunt me. We must remember that we teach what we accept & kindness , love & respect are the most important lessons that are taught behind the walls of our homes.
Myself as an adult who’s had to RECOVER from emotional and physical abuse in my childhood it triggers me how a lot of people will stand around and watch how kids are sometimes treated by their parents and say NOTHING .. a-lot of people will say they don’t want to interfere, it triggers me how the law doesn’t protect kids in DV situations enough
Hurting a child is a crime. If the cops don't care call cps. If you are not satisfied ,complain in writing
@Rain Thank you for all those you have helped Please enjoy your retirement 🥂⚘⚘
That mother carried each of those children, gave birth, and nurtured them, and that horrible man just executed them! The same needs to be done to him! An eye for an eye!
That's too easy , he needs to be put in general population in prison and remind all the prisoners everyday why he's in there, Now Go
@@angiethacker6321top, if you’ve never been in a prison or a jail, stop running your mouth about what happens to them in jail; it’s absolutely not true! They are purposely housed separately, including women, with other killers who don’t care why they are in there. After you work in the prison system & get some experience, come back & give us an update.
Right, women have all this privilege, and there are still women who kill their child
Bullet to the head is waaaay too easy.
@@dudemorris7769 She *clearly* said put in general population, you must have missed that part. This human festering boil does not deserve *any* _seg_ or "special housing" other than death row. Personally, I agree with the young woman and hope he's "Wolf Packed" at every opportunity once convicted.
This coward belongs in a cage until eventually being "put down". The shame is that he can only die once.
*Tom's wife Pam*
Too bad tough guy Chad didn’t reach for that rifle when police arrived- justice would’ve have been served hot n fresh.
He should have used it on himself instead of his boys
I think he was thinking about suicide by cop and that’s why the rifle was next to him. He was too much of a coward to do jt.
@@oceancat0450 This case really bothers me, a lot. As a father of four, I just cannot and do not want to understand why or how.
@@oceancat0450 yes, but couldn't do it TO HIMSELF. only to his own innocent young kids:( breaks my heart:(
Hell yeah brother , I feel exactly the same.
It is OBSCENE that you can commit murder, deliver a healthy and breathing baby, place him in a plastic bag in a garbage bin and still be allowed to go to prom!!!??? I'm not just referring to the law BUT HER PARENTS!! Who are these people??!!
NO questions asked NO!! Straight DP well deserved.
Wish we could spay or neuter some humans as well.
100%
Me too!
My thoughts exactly .....
Yes! If you kill one baby you should NEVER get to have another. Mandatory sterilization should be part of their sentence. Post partem and mental illness shouldn't be allowed as an excuse either. Murder is murder.
Also if you have one baby and are unable to take care of it, you should Not be allowed to keep going and have 6 more kids that you are unable to take care of!!! Common Sense!!🙄
And the fact he planned this for months, allegedly!? Makes it even worse for me. 🤬
This is a growing issue in this country.
Nothing more exciting in my life than to watch my boys and daughter grow and mature into my best friends. My wife gave me the greatest gifts anyone could give a man. I just can’t imagine.
you lucky B.........ard
These people are monsters straight out of a nightmare 😢 I don’t want to understand them
Right, us normal people will never understand how their minds work.
Women/mothers who kill should get the same punishment as any murderer would. Especially mothers who kill.
His feelings were more important than the lives of his children. He was an adult acting out like a child.
Doerman definitely deserves the DP because the way he hunted down those poor little kids was so callous, it's almost unfathomable that anyone could have conceived of such a thing. I'm still really in disbelief that it actually happened. My mind just can't grasp that someone, a parent, could do something like that. DP by firing squad, that would be just.
He chased his terrified scared to death 7 year old child down after he witnessed the horrifying murder of his siblings and shot him twice. Are you serious. A cold blooded cowardly human being. All for spite against his wife or girlfriend. Terrible terrible thing the 7 year Olds killing
I can't imagine hating someone more than I love my children
Well....
I hate people less because i love my child so much
😭😭 So very Disturbing and disgusting.... RIP to all these poor babies. 💔 💔,
He is the reason she didnt go to the Texas row....
Amen 🙏
Men and women should be treated the same in these cases!!
Absolutely. Susan Smith should have gotten the death penalty.
@@elizabethlacky6068I agree
What about Chris Watts???
I think they just picked a few that just killed the children not including spouses
Exactly
Unbelievable she went to prom without a care in the world. .
Who
Definitely when women are the perpetrators, they are seen with more compassion than men. The Justice system should not have preferential treatment
That is your perception but it is not reality. Women are often punished MORE harshly precisely because society EXPECTS a mother to be compassionate and loving toward her children. There is also a BIG DIFFERENCE between a woman suffering from postpartum depression, which can be a severe, clinical disease, and a cold-blooded killer like Chad Doerman. In the latter case, males are more-likely to plan and carry out murders of children to cause severe suffering to the mother. Such men will place revenge above the lives of their children. Several of the expert speakers stressed these differences, which you should have picked up if you listened to the full report.
Doerman had 3 of the loveliest,cutest little boys-no sense unless he intended making their mother suffer
These people claim something in their minds tell them to do this or a voice. To me they are just filled with pure evil
I think Rusty Yates should take a lot of blame for what happened with Andrea.
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Absolutely love the knowledge of these guests! So fascinating and great interviewing, Vinnie. Great questions asked and I would love more episodes like this on the insight in to a criminal mind. RIP to all these beautiful babies/children. 😞💐
Don't forget about the guy who blew his 2 boys up with himself inside the house 🏠. I can't remember the guys name but he allegedly murdered his wife and he knew law enforcement was coming for him eventually and the wifes parents had been taking care of the boys. DCF was warned not to let him have unsupervised visits. Very tragic case. Wish i could remember the families name grrrrrrr 😮
Josh Powell
I think it was a supervised visit. Boys ran to the house and the father locked the social worker out. She called 911
@@carolynmcdonald2746 yes that's it. 👍
That teen should have been in jail! Not prom! What the f is wrong with these kids that have no conscience?!
The fact that one child got away. Chad chased him down and brought him back to the house. Then executed him just adds to just how monstrous of a person he is. That family will never be the same and they’ll never know why he did this.
Also Andrea Yates can not even be compared to him. What she did was horrible to those kids. Her children. Until you work with patients with diagnosed mental illness that has a later diagnosis of postpartum psychosis on top you’ll never understand it. Andrea Yates ob/gyn AND husband also failed her and their children by continuing to encourage her to get pregnant after her mental health doctors explained that risk. NOT THAT SAYING I AGREE WITH WHAT YATES DID….I JUST DON’T THINK THEY ARE COMPARABLE. A lot of people don’t know that she is eligible for parole from the psychiatric hospital she is currently at and she turns it down every time.
@@mariemazzo896 so like I said his son ran away and he chased him down, brought him back and executed him. Why he did this will never come out of his mouth or truly confirmed because if he was he would have just pleaded guilty.
Ripped the 3 year old, Chase, from his mothers arms before… disgusting
@@mariemazzo896he did it so he could execute the child in front of his mother. To cause her pain.
@@mariemazzo896 I'm answering your question.
Good. That she turns it down. Good. I hope she stays there. I'm sure postpartum depression is real. Like that one woman recently. I actually feel for her in a way cause wow was she taking a ton of pills. What were they thinking? After all those meds one would become insane! Her life is over might as well give her death penalty. That poor husband. I feel like he got a death penalty as well. God bless him I hope he finds a shadow of peace.
These guests had great information and presented it in a such a good way. 👍🏼
In india the woman goes home to her parents house after delivery for 40 days. So she can get enough rest both physically and mentally with no pressures of housework or looking after other kids.
I've heard several of these stories, total shame, people have went crazy
Chad is wicked. Confesses to murdering the three boys to get back at his wife, but now pleaded not guilty. This demon wants to see his wife testify when it comes time for his trial. Wants to turn the screws.
Thank you for covering this subject; it is an important topic to understand so that hopefully someone will see the warning signs and be able to take action before such tragedies can occur-not blaming the victims, but if even one life can be saved because someone saw something and said something.
I saw a documentary on Andrea Yates a couple years ago and while I didn’t want to, I felt much more sympathy after watching. Her husband should have been charged and served time for the circumstances he imposed upon her. While she performed the act, he was absolutely responsible for setting the stage. You don’t set your wife in front of a speeding train.
I'll never be able to understand why they both made the decision to keep on having children when she was clearly overwhelmed. It's absolutely tragic and heartbreaking.😢
I feel like she was failed by her husband and medical system.
@@jenniferhansen3622 RELIGION. Duh.
Yes, a very sad case
@@JM-ot8uxThere was no reason for you to be rude. Even if religion was the reason, I still can't fathom someone putting that above their physical or mental health.
Very interesting. Vinnie, more of these deep dives connecting instances, please! With intelligent, calm correspondents just like this.
Exactly what I’ve been saying since this happened w ppl commenting how a parent can do something like this; they can do it bc they hate their wife more than they love their children.
Youre very right, and I dont believe these people EVER truly 'loved' their children. They can mimic the actions of love but I dont believe they actually feel it genuinely. They think of their kids as a possession. I only say this because I DO feel love and I can't imagine feeling love toward a child I created, took care of everyday, etc and just being able to callously destroy them like you were breaking a plate or phone
@@PozorrogoI completely agree, if they loved their children the thought of killing them ..even harming them would never cross their minds. 😔
You guys mentioned Timothy Jones, he is absolutely disgusting, also. He allowed his wife and children to live in squalor and didn’t even allow enough food for them to survive!! 😡😡
Often times women with postpartum depression aren't identified and or treated appropriately by the medical profession. Sandra Yates is one of those mothers. I’m not hearing much understanding from Dr. Leibermam which is (case on point) part of the problem. The medical community needs to step up!.
I don't care if it's insanity or evil, anyone who murders their children for whatever reason needs to be locked up for good or worse. Change my mind!
All pregnant women need access to GOOD pre and post-natal care.....especially if abortion is not an option. Universal Health Care is so badly needed for maternal and child health, family health, mental health, violence prevention ,.........etc etc
@@scientistatwork4667 of course, they do as does every human being.
@@lisabelle7553 I'm not sympathizing with the murderer. I'm merely pointing out that preventative care could make a difference in the outcome. Postpartum depression is real!
Postpartum psychosis is a very different situation than what this man did. Yes it’s all horrifying but Andrea Yates and her poor children were failed by the medical community as well as her husband and her “religion”.
But anyone who hurts a child in cold blood deserves to be up under the jail.
Yes. I think she didn't clarify that many women have postpartum depression and don't end up killing their babies.
@@mariee.5912 Postpartum depression and postpartum psychosis are two different diagnoses.
@@TawnyC_ she didn't clarify that.
This dude HUNTED his children, intentionally. Absolutely different from Andrea Yates
Including any woman who kills and claims to have post partum or use any religious beliefs to annihilate their families, yet don’t kill themselves.
The psychology of family annihilaters and people who kill their own kids has always been something interesting to me. I can see why the Dr has spent so long trying to get to the bottom of it. I guess because it's the most taboo, unfathomable, horrific crime that one could commit, you just want answers. Sick individuals, no matter which way you slice it.
The other problem with mother's reaching out for help is that they're portrayed as the crazy one and ultimately dismissed. It isn't that cut and dried as Dr. Lieberman would like to think.
You forgot Chris Watts. Evil people .
Family annihilator is a different category.
that dude kind of gives me Chris Watts Vibes 💯
At least this on cried, maybe for himself, though.
What I find as Selfish, is the fact that He killed His Children, as taking away what He felt was really part of Him, and not going any further, as to killing His Wife or His Stepdaughter.
It's obvious He went towards what He and His Wife created, and solely theirs., looking at it as mentioned.,
in a way to Punish the Mother/Wife.
I still believe He is not stable., yet He is Guilty as well.
He shot at his step daughter as she ran for help, I’m guessing if he had been able to do so he would have killed her too. It may also be that he planned a death by cop, and expected them to shoot him because he was not complying with commands and instead he will stand trial. IMO he will find out how strong his wife and step daughter are, when they testify to put him away.
The wife tried to save the youngest son, and she was shot in the hand. These 3 boys were so precious one ran away and Chad chased him down and shot him!! 😡😡. 💔💔💔
Chad killed out of hatred for his wife for wanting a divorce. He needs to be housed in general population.🤬🤬
I've went deep into the rabbit hole. These are just famous cases of parents murdering their children compared the the hundreds others.
You're right, it's startling how frequently this happens and most barely make the news or fade quickly from headlines. Apparently it is common enough that it doesn't shock a nation or entire culture every time
I have zero empathy for these monsters. Lock them up.. throw away the keys. The why of ? Who cares .. they are NEVER stopped before the crime .
What about Chris Watts. He also killed his two girls in a brutal way.
I can't imagine trying to save your children from a monster. Whilst protecting her children , he turns the gun on her. He was killing those boys come hell or high water. His only motive ,is to hurt others
I dont really think that placing almost a partial blame on the mother is appropriate. As someone who’s dealt with DV personally, it’s incredibly common for the “victim” to not being the violence to anyones attention. This woman’s been through enough I don’t think she needs that on her back also.
How could they leave out Chris Watts?????
Because he also murdered his wife and unborn child, he is categorized as a family annihilatior instead of a perpetrator of filicide. Does not change the horrifying nature of his crimes though.
I believe there is nothing wrong with.them. why always kill someone else and not themselves????
There is ALWAYS some form of mental illness in those who kill their family members. The expert speakers reiterated this point. In fact, a certain number of family annihilators do take their own lives but only AFTER they have murdered others. Besides overhauling access to mental health treatment (badly needed in the US), an increasing number of states are putting roadblocks between violent/mentally ill persons and their guns. If there were more sensible red-flag, gun-control laws, which the majority of Americans want, we could reduce the number of tragedies like this. The problem requires a multi-pronged solution, including teaching society to speak up and report domestic violence and child abuse.
I don't know how anyone can actually sit back and have a plan to kill their 3 little boys...Who does that? But seeing their beautiful faces broke my heart. Never gave them a chance to live the lives they were promised. Its disgusting that their own father could do this. As much as he despised his wife, what was he accomplishing by taking these beautiful angels away? I think capital punishment is too good for him. I think he deserves to sit in a 9x12 cage every single day until he takes his last rotten breath.
I know I went and looked at his Facebook page and saw him having fun taking the boys to truck shows WHILE planning it. Wtf
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@@annechris2677 You got that right!
@@Breeandfree Really? That's just horrible! I remember in psych class we were discussing filicide, (parents who kill their own children) and other than mental illness, a lot of times they do it for spousal revenge. If he was so angry at the boys mother, why end their lives? I never could understand how anyone can hurt or kill a child especially their own and yet, we see it coming through our emergency dept. all the time. Its extremely heartbreaking to see and it's something you never forget.
Well done - thank you.
To punish his wife b/c she wanted a divorce b/c he was abusive !!
He deserves life no parole. Not the death penalty. He should sit in prison every day & be reminded of why he's there.& Other prisoners will remind him every day.
No he ha mentaal isues
This is so crazy! Innocent kids dying at the hands of their parents.😪
Yes, it's crazy and very sad and disturbing.
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I have a problem with the media repeatedly showing the Doerman's neighbor giving his views on justice for the kids when he NEVER reported Chad to the authorities for repeated episodes of domestic violence and abuse. Nor did he offer any help to the wife and kids. If you supposedly care so much .....pick up the phone. You can be an anonymous caller if you are worried about retribution. Sorry Mr. Neighbor, your words sound hollow to me.
Thank you! Finally someone else questions that.
How do we know if this holy neighbour tells the truth about the man who killed his sons? The neighbour is on TV and video history now - and I think he likes it. But he just minded his own business before.
I so agree!
Shame he was getting so emotional the case with the 3 Little Boys this has to be so extremely hard for Police to deal with this. These Police are first on the scene seeing little children being killed by their Parents its like one of the worst crimes in the World 💔💔💔💔
I so agree. I really feel for the cops that had to enter that scene - many are fathers themselves, and to see three little boys lying shot in the yard, hearing the screaming mother, and bravely approaching the murderous father with a shotgun lying next to him and having no idea if he would shot them too. You couldn't pay me enough to do that job, but thank God some are willing to do it. They must have wanted to throttle Chad, but they kept their anger in check and stayed professional.
@@barbarapaige yes I saw how infuriated and hurt the Officer was 💔💔
Every time this case comes to my mind or if it is mentioned in the media, my whole body goes numb.
He murdered his kids to make his wife suffer for not taking him back so theres no more premeditated than this 😮 he knew exactly what he was doing ?
What about the young mother that was a nurse herself (i believe she worked in the birthing center too!) She suffered from PTSD and waited for her husband to leave to pick up food and killed all 3 of her children not too awful long ago.... This seems to be a reoccurring thing nowadays. It’s just awful!!!
9 days driving with ur 5 dead kids. I can't even imagine that in my head
His parents raised a crybaby and this is what the consequences are.
We don't do enough about domestic violence... period
Love court tv my favorit great job vinny
Omg the fact that the girl who killed her newborn went to prom, just wow. What n the F is going on in this country. I blame her mom too. Fn gross
These people don’t deserve the title parent .. once they commit such acts they shouldn’t be referred to as ‘the parent’
Yes, I couldn't agree more
As a mother of boys, I finally realized why mothers eat their young in the wild. But I would use my body as a meat shield to protect them!
I know people keep saying and asking why did he do it why he did it because he's a monster he's the devil that's why I regular normal person doesn't shoot their kids
I think about the mom that drowning her kids. She had mental issues and was told by a doctor to stop having kids but the father disregard that doctor's note. He kept getting his wife pregnant. I think the father should have been charged too.
Yes, I think if they had both made the decision to not have any more children maybe the tragic event that occurred wouldn't have happened. 😢
Father isnt responsible whenn the Mother willingly had sex
@@mariemazzo896In evangelical Christianity you cannot say no. Trust me. Marital rape and coercion by religion is very common. You are taught to let your husband have you when he see fits or you aren’t being a good wife.
@@morganclark8221 lies
@@mariemazzo896not at all. There are many documentaries about this religion. very sad and very disturbing things.
I saw Battaglia interviewed before his execution. He was a horrible waste of skin. He was still venomous towards his ex wife, and he had the names of the two daughters he murdered tattooed on him, yet he wasnt remorseful. Just seeing that interview with him made me feel like I needed to shower.
No he had pschological issues. He ws bashing her
@@annechris2677 “No” what? What about my comments were wrong?
The " specialist " can waffle all he likes, im telling you those parents kill their offspring out of plain old spite!
The men seem to get much more severe penalties.
Surprised Diane Downs didn’t make the list. She is as bad, or worse, than Susan Smith. Hope neither one ever gets out of prison alive
This case makes me sick!
Wow. This woman drowned 5 of her children. Absolutely horrible.
It's so sad and heartbreaking
Ah. Nope. You can have postpartum depression without underlying mental health illnesses. Postpartum depression is temporary and most of the time doesn't end up harming the baby.
This is such an horrific case. Who could have known that this monster was planning the deaths of these beautiful boys. Certainly not his neighbours! I’m sure the mother would never have thought in her wildest dreams that he would do this to their sons.
If you've seen interviews with the neighbors a couple of them said he was constantly drunk, yelling at the wife and children, cursing them in the yard. I believe there had been visits to the home by police based on reports from the neighbors.
@@shethingsd yes I have seen those interviews etc but seriously would they have thought this would be the end result. I’ve heard reporters saying these people should have done more. Other than reporting to children’s services or the police what could these neighbours have done. This man is an absolute monster I hope he gets the sentence he deserves.
@@lorettalee4029 I agree with all that you've said here. I don't think his neighbors hold any responsibility. Only Chad is responsible. And no, I don't think any of us want to consider this ultimate violence happen in our neighborhood.
How could you???😢😢😢
How can we stop this from happening?
Should we stop having children until you have a psycologist exam? We need to do something. It just makes me sick.
No psychological exam exists for parents to "pass" in order to have children and it would be fraught with all kinds of discrimination. We do need early and ongoing sex education in school and healthy parenting classes for all new parents. We need to instill values of respect and compassion for others, instead of becoming numb to violence. We need to encourage everyone to report domestic abuse instead of hiding behind closed doors. An abusive husband, father and drunk should not have access to guns to murder his children with. If there were more sensible red-flag, gun-control laws, which the majority of Americans want, we could reduce the number of tragedies like this. In reality, we need to tackle these problems in multiple ways and elect people who are willing to enact legislative change. We can ALL be part of a solution if we choose to be.
Also, the neighbours said they heard domestic violence from that house, people need to report….unfortunately even CPS doesn’t help these kiddos! It is just to many kiddos being slaughtered by their parents!!
He did this to get revenge on his wife.
Remember the woman who was a mail carrier and Fareah Faucet played her in a movie. Shot all three children in her car and claimed a stranger stopped her car.
Diane Downs.
This case and also the case of Lindsey Clansy both have getting even with spouse vibes...As all the facts come out it seems that way more and more. Why are so many people hurting their children more and more ???
My honest guess and it's not an excuse of course but... Zero support system, no family, no village. Wanna help a mom out? Come over and let her sleep. Sleep deprivation is used as torture for a reason, it breaks you. In other cultures, family members will move in or closer to help out.
@@fl_snorkeldork I'm both these cases that's not what happened. I absolutely believe we need more support in a huge way for parents.
@@jooliagoolia9959 There are dozens of documentaries about Andrea Yates and other mothers who didn't have support and even asked for help, then the unthinkable happens and we all ask why? This is why. Again, just my opinion.
No support system and sleep deprivation is a recipe for disaster, I can attest to this as I had PPD, PPA, and signs of PPP after having my son. My husband had PPD. The things we experienced are indescribable. Something out of a horror movie. And in the moment, that's what it feels like, an out of body experience.
Unless you've experienced it personally, there is unfortunately no way to even understand or relate.
@@fl_snorkeldork I'm agreeing with you.
Mrs Clancy on the other hand had more support than people could imagine.
And I did live thru it and do know.
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What about Lori Vallow and Diane Downes? And the father of little Harmony Montgomery in N.H., now on trial for "disappearing" her (presumed dead) as well as Ronald Anthony Burgos, the married border cop who murdered his little boy when his lover asked for child support (now on trial). As for reporting domestic violence: the police might put an abusive spouse in prison for a day or a week, but he'll be out shortly and will go right back to abusing, even with a restraining order. And of course the other parent or person being abused is afraid of their abuser and has been intimidated into not reporting their abuser. Pertinent fact from the seventies, "Dear Abby" - the advice columnist - asked women to respond to the question "If you could do it over again, would you have children?" Something like 75% said NO!
I don’t understand how y’all didn’t include the black children that have lost their lives at the hands of their parents @CourtTV
When blk ppl do it, it gets far less media coverage, so these talking heads have less material to discuss. They could have at least thrown Mitchelle Blair in there instead of trotting out a case from 30 years ago though.
Because mental illness does not discriminate.
Out of all the crime cases I’ve followed, this one hurts me the most.
Every day I think about these poor babies & their mother. I replay the 911 call in my head which is a heart stopper, btw. I think about what I heard in the 911 call & replay it in my head & think about the kids screaming, crying, mama with one baby in her arms trying to not only save the one in her arms, but all 3, & how hard that just had been to save all 3. How she can’t run off with one & come back for the other two. How she needed help to stop this man before he did what he done so she stayed fighting off this man ti protect her babies. Ahh. This just haunts me & always will. I can’t imagine what she’s going through. How scared the babies much have been by the man they called their father. By the man they trusted to always protect them. Just horrible!
So true. Hell on Earth
Same this one is going to stay with me for ever. I can’t imagine what the poor mom is going through 😢
@@madeinussr7551 I believe the motive was to take her whole life from her & leave her alive with the pain to bare. When you hear her screaming to him, “YOU TOOK MY WHOLE LIFE FROM ME”. That’s what he wanted. Heartbreaking‼️
WTH is going on in the U.S. lately, so many parents killing their own children. Why??
We do need better support for mothers who are postpartum. We have to do better in the mental health department. The test that we have now just isn't enough. To sit there and ask questions for an hour visit once or twice ain't cutting it. Heres the thing, if you already suffer from bouts of severe depression/anxiety or any mood disorder, the fact is, your rate is higher for being prone to having postpartum depression. Which, if not treated, turns into psychosis. Please, if you are pregnant, if you feel any depression, tell your OB. If you are postpartum, if you start to feel off in any way, say something. No, you will not be judged. In fact, it takes great strength and courage as well as self-awareness and love for your child(ren) to do so. ❤
My only child is 40 now and I love her more than anything in this world
I would be interested to know how he would catorigize a case where both parents premeditated the murder of their grown child's death and carried it out themselves!
Death penalty with immediate effect