I'm so thrilled that you have started your own channel, Tammy. I'm one of Jordan's former students from around 2008-2010. He probably wouldn't remember me, but Jordan had an enormous impact on me and my husband (we even met in his class)! We used to marvel at his brilliance and wonder how he wasn't well known to the world. We have continued following him ever since, and we are not at all surprised to see what has unfolded for him in terms of his notoriety. All this time, you were another well-kept secret, and you're finally revealing yourself to the world. I greatly value your wisdom and your authenticity as you explore your spirituality in the public sphere. I have recently found God, and I can say with certainty that you have played a part in my openness to Christianity. I am deeply grateful, and I believe that God is working through you and Jordan (and other intellectuals such as Jonathan) to soften the hearts of unlikely followers like myself. Thank you, Tammy, and God bless you and your family.
Speaking to when Jonathan was eluding to change that takes place in the bread and wine in the Sacrament of Communion, my wife is gluten-free and notices even very small amounts of it of she eats it, but she is able to take Communion without any effects, she is even able to eat the antidiron (blessed bread.) The bread and wine are no longer just bread and wine in the Eucharist....
I actually disagree with you and our friend Jonathan here, it’s still physically bread. 1 of 2 things is going on with your lovely wife 1. There is such a small amount of gluten in the Eucharistic bread that it doesn’t have a profound impact 2. Some small miracle is occurring (on top of the incredible miracle of Christ’s body and soul as communion) which disinhibits your wife’s allergy. But 100% the Eucharist is still bread, look at it under the microscope and there’s still gluten. The spiritual change of substance does not alter the physical accidents of bread-ness except in rare miraculous cases that are carefully considered before being declared supernatural. Whatever the case, it’s awesome you and your wife are close to God, hope to catch you in heaven. Also, the make gluten-free hosts which your priest can validly consecrate upon request.
medically gluten-free person here, with the exact same experience. I am not Orthodox yet but I partake of the blessed bread with no ill effects. The church is full of beautiful mysteries!
You're probably aware that the priest or deacon that has been serving the liturgy has to eat and drink the entirety of the remaining Eucharist after finishing the service. Since I'm a student of theology at Belgrade University and a reader, I've talked to priests and bishops who have served liturgies among the sickest people you can imagine - in prisons, mental asylums, hospitals, giving the Eucharist to people with aids, hepatitis, and God knows what else, and then consuming everything left in the chalice. None of them ever got sick. There's a great book in Serbian from bishop Irinaeus of Bačka called "Свето Причешће - Лек Бесмртности" (Holy Eucharist - The Medicine of Immortality) where he brings up actual studies showing that no disease could spread via the Eucharist. The Eucharist in the Orthodox Chruch truly is the very Christ himself. You cannot get sick from the Source of Life.
@@DavidBlagic156945 it would be curious if his research could be repeated in other churches/ by other researchers, or not… Life itself is weird indeed, so at this point, maybe
I usually prayer 5x a day and more a day, specially in the middle of night, that quiet moment with Allah swt, just me abd Him (swt) thats best time of my life, no pleasure in world is greater....remembering Allah swt and just informal prayer dua and praising Him swt and seeking forgiveness for day to days sin, give me soo much sakinah tranquility in my heart and soul, so I can manage my inner emotions better, so I am less reactive and frustrated at the people or world around me...the taste of this feeling is beyond words.... Forever wearing my burka
I hope to be in a deeper Faith based on my believe in the Gospel of Salvation and my daily surrender, and prayers of repentance to the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. I daily receive Christ as my Savior...Being in Communion with Christ is to not allow anyone, or anything to come between you and your relationship with Christ Jesus..Giving all Glory to the GodHead. Peace and Love to you both...
Your husband equipped me with the intellectual tools to grapple with religion, to dispel the grip of secular materialism, and Jonathan brought me home, helped me atone and find faith.
For some reason every time I hear Jonathan speak about the Christ story I feel like things are becoming very serious and real, like I step into a dangerous territory where I should be careful. I guess this is the feeing that you get when discussing about sacred things. I just feel like being very quiet and just listen.
Tammy, I met you and your husband in January near DC with Metropolitan Jonah, and I gave you a copy of an Akathist to the Holy Virgin. I'm severely allergic to gluten (Celiac disease), and I can receive Holy Communion at any Eastern Orthodox Church without negative symptoms. Glory to God!
Symbolically it cannot be denied that her husband is a mythical figure in the process of flipping this upside-down world on it's head'. I could not be more pleased at knowing this lovely numinous creature is at his side. *Glory be to God*
Hi Tammy, great video again. Crossing the arms whilst going up for communion in Roman Catholic mass is going up for a blessing they call it. Please look into the Eucharist, Confession, Rosary and Eucharistic Adoration as they are all very important to live out the faith. Blessings to you!
I have read the “Way of a Pilgrim.” I bought it from St. Anthony’s Coptic monastery in Barstow. I love reading or listening to the Orthodox Elders. They’re so profound. I have a great devotion to St. Nectarios. It’s interesting that I very much enjoy and feel at home with both Catholic and Orthodox spirituality but sadly they don’t try to go deeper into understanding each other’s spirituality. Both churches are so rich with beautiful traditions and ways of worship that if shared it will be of great benefit to the church. Thank you Jonathan and Tammy. ✝️😇 I always pray for the unity of the churches and I think we all should.
It is cute and wholesome how Tammy and Jordan Peterson are similar in expression and speech. They truly have a lot of admiration and respect for each other, and I wish this kind of relationship for everyone, who wants to marry and bind oneself to their significant other
You can receive communion in the Catholic Church only in the form of consacrated Wine. But you have to be in Communion with the Church, as Jonathan said, and explained so well. For both Catholics and Orthodox, Communion is the center of the life is Christ, because it IS Christ himself.
I've come to realise that communion is very important. I was brought up Catholic and had that version weekly. I converted to orthodoxy 3 years ago and the experience and understanding is infinitely deeper (speaking for myself here and no offence intended). This last year has been the most challenging of my life. Last Sunday when I took communion at an orthodox church I was truly humbled by the strength and life giving power it provided. I wept. But good and grateful tears. The tears I needed to shed to be focused on our awesome and loving Father. It's difficult to explain but I would encourage anyone to look further into the orthodox communion and the life it provides 💛
I loved reading your witness to the power of Holy Communion and how it affected you. I am Roman Catholic. Receiving Jesus in Holy Communion gives me such peace and joy; and I, too, weep 'good and grateful' tears that the God of Heaven and earth, who allows me to consume His Body and Blood, enters my body and takes His rightful place, on the throne of my heart. For a short while I I remain still and tell Him that I am so grateful for His presence that I wish to share Him with all those who are unable to receive Him. The Roman Catholic church recognises the Holy Orders of the Eastern Orthodox church and, though there is a schism, we are one when we receive the Eucharist ❤
I understand what you’re saying. I’m an Armenian Orthodox and I attend mass in the Catholic Church. I love the Catholic devotions, specially the Rosary and the Divine Mercy prayers and prayers to the Sacred Heart of Jesus and the Immaculate Heart of Mary. I like the symbolism. As for the communion I wish the priests would give the communion in a more solemn and not so fast and casual way. That hurts me! Then there is the Eucharistic adoration. It’s the same thing over there. But of course not all priests are like that. For example Fr. Mark Goring and Fr. Alar and a few more. They are full of passion for Christ and the fire of the Holy Spirit.I also love the Greek Orthodox spirituality and their solemnity. I pray the Jesus prayer very often and it goes very deep inside me. It’s so profound. Well, may God unite all the churches bc Christ established one church and division comes from Satan. God bless Jonathan and Tammy.
I am writing a seminar work about the understanding of the eucharist in the early church. Loved your description of the cup jonathan: Christ is drinking up the whole ocean of chaos and he is containing it. And it is not too much for him ultimately, which is why he resurrects. Amen! That's put beautifully and poetically!
31:36 “If I could but touch the hem of his garment” I love the faith of this woman! You don’t *need* the bread of Christ to be saved, but you do need to be a part of his body. Since his Body is in the bread, that’s the normal and ordinary means of grace. But there is also spiritual communion, open to all who want to fully receive Christ in their hearts but who cannot access the official sacraments of the Church for whatever reason. Jonathan is right, you NEED to commune with God. The nuance to add is that there are even examples of Catholic and Orthodox communities that go a whole generation without a priest or an established church but still make spiritual progress and become close to God through baptism and the scriptures. Obviously a rich and complete sacramental life is preferred above anything else in life, but it is not absolutely necessary.
"Golum by holding on to his precious becomes a kind of living dead thing." Wow, it makes so much sense! Thank you Tammy! You, Mr. Pageau and Dr. Peterson and have helped me so much on strengthening my faith. Now I think I am more willing to take the bitter cups, pay the prices to face the chaos and fear to bring order to the lives of my family and myself.
Jonathan trying to get across the idea of the inability for Holy Communion to do physical harm is the best part of this interview. Bless Tammy for her concerns about taking Communion regarding her health, but just thought it was pretty comical the way Jonathan was trying to explain the Eucharist though Tammy didn't understand.
These conversations between you and Jonathan so far have been two lights in the darkness, for me. I have already returned to them multiple times. I relate to you, Tammy, as someone finding religion later in life. Thank you both, from the depths of my being.
Thank you!!!! I agree with Jonathan's comment about Tammy sharing her journey - Calling it "bright"! Awareness, comprehension, then discernment... Let go, and let God! Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, today is a gift, that's why we call it the "present". Be in the NOW... be present and mindful of SELF! Keep sharing!!! 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
@@Ganghamstelty And an AA axiom... I often wondered if the writer of the film script is in recovery. We learn in recovery, that we suffer from a three fold malady - physical, mental, and spiritual. We need to accept our powerlessness... Deconstruct the EGO, often referred to as "Edging God Out". Then, when the spiritual malady is overcome, we straighten out mentally and physically; by working the 12 steps. We are "reborn or... resurrected" if you will. This idea/concept is applicable to anyone.
Tammy, I'm so glad you have a channel! I look forward to being on this journey with you. There are Gluten Free Wafers in my Catholic Church, and they are very very tiny--the size of a quarter. Maybe ask your priest at the appropriate time. The whole time I was in RCIA class (class for new folks coming into the Catholic Church--I was Methodist--) I went up at communion and received the blessing with arms crossed. I loved that too--I had first communion this past Easter. I look forward to seeing everything you learn and have to say. I was diagnosed with Stage 4 cancer in 2015. Metastasis to my liver and both lungs. Now I'm in remission for 7 years now. I identify with that aspect of your story. Thank you and God Bless you and your family. Big fan of your husband, and now you!!!!
I'm still trying to find a church that gives me depth, of thoughtful spirituality, personal challenge and hopeful faith. I've had 3 financial reports instead of a sermon. And today, today was so shallow I was in tears of frustration as I took communion. I would love to find community and well as thoughtful spiritual leadership. But so far RUclips has been the avenue of discovery and source of knowledge. Thank you for sharing yourself Tammy, for being a beacon of light and hope. And to Jonathan for your wisdom and gentle direction, pointing at the path.
If you're looking for fuel to come closer to Jesus. Watch Jesus testimonials. They have opened my eyes in a way sermons can miss sometimes. These testimonies tie our daily lives to the bible in a personal way while still Praising God. I started with Reema Angelique "Demons are Real" It's just her telling her real life story and it's more powerful, more beautiful than Hollywood movie you could ever watch.
There is a great challenge for spiritual seekers with advanced mental fascinations “With much wisdom comes much vexation.” Not that it’s bad to be smart. But if you believe in community, you HAVE to accept that sometimes you might be the smartest person in the room dealing with a bunch of lackluster ideas even if you’re all centered towards a higher good. This is not to say just join a church if the idiots have no love and are greedy to the point of complete spiritual corruption. But it’s also to say that if you expect the real world community of your neighbors to be as intellectually stimulating as consuming the breadth of the world’s knowledge in hyperspeed as on youtube, you’re never going to be happy. I hope you find a parish church that you feel welcomed into and can express your beautiful gifts in a way that bears fruit. But remember how Christ looks at you when you look at your neighbor in the pew, and you’d think even the most greedy bastard going through rote motions is just a saint in the making. Also, last point, Church liturgies are not supposed to be primarily about moral formation, friendship, intellectual stimulation, or even an exciting emotional event: the idea is to raise your heart in praise together with the people of good will, if but for only one measly hour a week you might be able to focus on something other than yourself, namely Jesus Christ, our God who loved us to the point of death and raises us up within Himself to God by way of his Spirit. Happy Easter friend
If you are catholic, the first thing you have to understand is mass is not about you. It's about God. It's about giving to God, and not taking for yourself. If you are looking for spiritual enrichment and nourishment and community, then there are many orders with a lay component you can join. The Dominicans, Franciscan, and carmelites are obvious ones. But that's not mass, thats outside of mass. Most areas have some community nearby. Hope this helps.
The Lord is wise, the devil invented you tube to influence us,But many pieces are controlled by God, when they change that I will throw this phone into the black of the sea 💝
I can fully picture myself as any person in the New Testament, except for Jesus. Yet He is the one we all need to model our being after. That realization just makes me feel so sinful.
@@mini1gerbel and any Jesus testimonial. You pick New age to Jesus Witchcraft to Jesus Meth addiction to Jesus Porn addiction to Jesus Suicidal to Jesus....... Jesus Saves
Mrs. Peterson. You have the greatest opportunity to spread the word of Jesus Christ. The Power is in our testimonies. You hqve an opportunity to invite people and share experiences that are still happening today. The new testament is a book of testimonies and is finished as it is written but Jesus's works have never stopped. People everyday are being saved in the most miraculous ways. He used your husband to strike my interest in the Bible. But it was Jesus that gave me life again. All the Glory must go to him. You have something here that can be far more impactful than you realize. Please consider this. I Love you guys. God bless you. Jason Farrell When the Lord skips a stone across the water it doesn't just ripple outward a few times. His stone never stop skipping.
I like this conversion very much. I also appreciate Tammy's honesty and politeness. The conversion on Holy Communion is very important and I really hope she will be convinced to take the Body and Blood of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ - not a bread and wine.
I adore the way you laugh, Tammy! It’s so heartful! ❤️ and also thank you so much for this series of podcasts. I am from Romania, 34 of age, orthodox, and these talk really light up my faith. It helps to understand the simbolism of the bible. ❤
This is the nicest lady I have ever met. So genuinely sincere. What Jesus would have referred to as "without guile " as with Nathaniel. I long to speak with this glorious family.
Hi Tammy If you would like to experience a beautiful English Orthodox service please visit Holy Theotokos convent located 30 minutes north of Toronto in the beautiful community of Cedar Valley. It's a glimpse of heaven on earth. Lord have mercy on us🙏
Tammy, your comments about bitterness and self-pity ( beginning right around mark 30 minutes in) resonates with me, thank you for sharing your inner thoughts and struggle. Thank you both and God bless you.
Tammy I truly love that you have started your own channel and are having deep lay discussions surrounding faith, suffering, and the cross. I implore you though to dive deeper into the Eucharist and rediscover the Catholic teachings around it. The Eucharist is the entire summit of our faith. EVERYTHING depends on it and if we are to truly unite ourselves with God for the salvation of our souls then we must consume the Body of Christ. Praying for you, Jordan, and your family always. God Bless.
I'm increasingly coming to appreciate the importance of communion- to crave it and be satisfied by it. It has drawn me to go to daily mass more frequently, rather than Sunday only.
Hi Thanks to you both for a joyful conversation important for humanity .When you receive the Holy Eucharist you receive the actual body ,blood of Christ his DNA resonates with yourDNA which over time helps you emulate his Holy Will with the abundance Grace from the Holy Ghost and the Creator Father making a marriage between the community body of his church with Heaven. Thank you 🙏
I told myself I wasn't going to watch RUclips on Easter Sunday....but I've been dealing with illness quite a bit in 2022, and got to a point today where I was so tired, I couldn't do anything else. I've been feeling so out of it, I was not able to go to church this morning, or visit with relatives, something I try to do every Easter. So I'm here by myself, resting, watching RUclips, and thankfully, this popped up as a recommended video. So glad for it! This was my "Sunday service." Janathan Pageau has been everywhere on RUclips lately, and I'm very glad for it. Anyway, I had several thoughts concerning this conversation: 1. Tammy wisely mentions those times when we "have our leg trapped in a snare", when we come to the end of ourselves in the material world, and see no way forward. Amongst Alcoholics Anonymous, this is known as "rock bottom"; when you have gotten to a point where you either change or die, because "the same old..." just isn't going to cut it anymore. Everyone of us has our equivalent of a "rock bottom" moment in life, where we have to decide what's truly important. In a way, the crucifixion was Jesus' "rock bottom" moment, and he went right into it. 2. In regards to the crucifixion, there are three main messages that come from Jesus death and resurrection that are most important to me: - God demonstrates his LOVE for man, by allowing himself to be killed by those who should have been the most welcoming. - God demonstrates that death is NOT the end of life, but the beginning of life eternal. - And lastly, God demonstrates that you have to go through hell to get to heaven. For Jesus, his "hell" was the crucifixion itself. But it is also taught that Jesus literally went to hell, not because of his guilt, but to literally set souls free who were trapped there. 3. I've read "The Way of the Pilgrim" as mentioned by Jonathan, and have to say it is one of the greatest spiritual works ever written, right up there with the Bible. I encourage everyone to buy a copy and read it. It's a demonstration of how "The Jesus Prayer" can be a very powerful practice in one's life. Lately, I've felt called to go back to the wisdom of the Jesus Prayer, and was so glad to hear you talk about it. For me, this was confirmation that I need to get back to that practice. 4. In regards to prayer, a Catholic Polish nun known as St. Faustina, who lived in Poland right before the outbreak of WWII, is one of the most important saints to learn about and follow at this point in time in world history. Jesus himself gave her a new way to pray the Rosary, where it's basically praying the Jesus Prayer for the entire world, as well as yourself. This new way of praying the Rosary is known as the Chaplet of Divine Mercy. There is an American Shrine of Devine Mercy in Stockbridge, Massachusetts that broadcasts this chaplet everyday on RUclips at 3 pm Eastern time. I would encourage everyone to get to know more about this prayer and St. Faustina, as it's a real blessing. 5. Communion. There is the literal, physical practice of communion that is commonly done by Orthodox and Catholic churches, involving the wafer and the wine. But there is deeper meaning and purpose of "communion" that is taught by the saints, and that is union with God, or Devine Union. Of the two, the second is a far, far more important form of communion. While you don't have to choose between the two, the material form of communion is the symbol of the spiritual Devine Union. You can engage in the material practice without ever encountering for feeling the spiritual equivalent, but once a soul enters into Devine Union, which is entirely spiritual, you will finally be able to see the material world for what it really is, and truly understand the love and mercy of God. From the Encyclopedia Britannica: "The goal of the mystic is not simply a transient ecstasy; it is a permanent state of being in which the person’s nature is transformed or deified. This state is frequently spoken of as a spiritual marriage involving God and the soul. This unitive life has two main aspects. First, while the consciousness of self and the world remains, that consciousness is accompanied by a continuous sense of union with God, as Teresa of Ávila clearly shows in discussing the seventh mansion in The Interior Castle. Brother Lawrence wrote that while he was at work in his kitchen he possessed God “in as great tranquillity as if I were upon my knees at the Blessed Sacrament” (The Practice of the Presence of God, chapter 4). Second, the spiritual marriage is a theopathic state: the soul is felt to be in all things the organ or instrument of God. In the unitive life Mme Guyon says that the soul “no longer lives or works of herself, but God lives, acts and works in her.” In this state the mystic is able to engage in manifold activities without losing the grace of union. In the words of Ignatius of Loyola, the mystic is “contemplative in action.” 6. On Jesus becoming the serpent: as strange as it sounds, this symbolism is very important. Moses actually made serpent made of bronze, mounted it on a pole, and used it as a means of healing those Israelis who had been bitten by serpents. It's referenced briefly in the Book of Numbers, chapter 21. Thanks again for doing and sharing this video! It was a real blessing.
If you're suffering give yourself to Jesus. He stands at the door waiting for us to open it. He will show you his divine love if you repent and believe in him. He can bring peace to the most weary. You will know in your heart heaven is real.
Beautiful discussion between the two of you. Thank you. With every podcast I hear with Mr. Pageau, the more appreciative I grow. I love the richness in the Orthodox traditions. Re. communion, I know it's already been commented on, but just in case it's not fully understood: the tiniest amount only needs to be taken. A crumb of the Host, a sip from the cup wetting your tongue for the fullness of Jesus to be present. Let concerns for diet or health not be an impediment. One or the other can be taken for full communion. The most important thing in receiving is believing, and wanting to be in union. Perhaps that decision hasn't been made in the heart to identify with a particular Faith for fear or doubt or wanting to remain neutral or open to exploration. So, wait for it. It's a journey no one can rush you on. You will *know* when you desire nothing else. Love and prayers.
As a Believer confessing the Apostle’s Creed and in communion with Christ, Tammy you ARE VERY MUCH welcome to receive communion at any Anglican Church in the ACNA (North America). I believe it’s the Roman Catholic Church requires you have been formally “confirmed” by the Roman Catholic Church. So the Anglican Church receives members of Roman Catholic Church to be in communion, but not the other way around.
Dear Tammy, your eagerness to find the truth is really moving and I'm sure that God will lighten your path. As a Greek Orthodox who hasn't always been religious, I can confirm that Orthodox church is a hospital for the soul. I think that it would be useful for you to find a priest and confess, that's the first step. Confessing to a priest it's not the same thing as confessing to a friend. It is often that people being reluctant to open up to a "stranger" they think that talking to a friend can replace this procedure. It can't. As regards the Communion, you can't get no harm by it. Just consider this. In Orthodox church, whatever is left inside the holy grail, after all attendants have received their spoon of bread and wine (Body and Blood), the priest is obliged to consume it himself. And the same thing happens in times of pandemic, in hospitals with highly contagious diseases and so on. So, the Orthodox priests should have been a professional group with a very high rate of morbidness and a low rate of life expectancy, but this doesn't happen. There was even an island in Greece where the Greek state would send the lepers. Same thing there, there was a healthy priest who served the community of lepers for a decade and never got Ill.
Jesus died for our sins, according to the scriptures, was buried, and rose again from the dead the third day according to the scriptures. (1 Cor. 15:1-4; Eph. 2:8-9) Christ was made sin for us; who knew no sin so that we might be made the righteousness of God through Him. There is none righteous, no not one: for all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. So when we simply BELIEVE what Christ has done for us by BELIEVING the gospel - death, burial, and resurrection. Then God imputes His perfect righteousness to our account and freely justifies us by His blood and the faith of Jesus Christ. Lord bless Tammy! 🙏✝️💘
As a Baptist, I've really only recently come to see the significance of the sacraments.This conversation was helpful and the honesty in it is really refreshing. I appreciated you sharing your thoughts, and experience, Tammy. I agree, it's so important. It's everything, really. I appreciate your answers, Jonathan, and your gentle pushing. I'm looking forward to the other videos and would be interested in hearing about all of the sacraments in more detail. Also, when the video opened, around minute 1, when Jonathan explained the need for attending etc and said "Wake up!..."...I found it really moving....if I was on my phone, I would put a bunch of emotional emojis here...lol:)
Dear Mrs. Peterson and Jonathan, Thank you so very much for sharing this conversation. The reminder of the Jesus Prayer and The Path of the Pilgrim is so timely in my own life. The Peterson family has been in my prayers for several years as each of you has struggled with health. But, most importantly God has been calling each of you to Himself. It is thrilling to see those prayers for your deepening relationship with God being answered. It is not because the Peterson family is influential. It is because each of you is loved by God just because you are His child. Dr. Peterson 's forthcoming book HE WHO WRESTLES WITH GOD is do appropriately named. Blessings and prayers regarding your tour!
Jonathan Pageau is such an eloquent speaker who knows how to adapt his speech to the listener. His observations on the crucifixion leave to want to meditate on this further. And this journey Tammy is on is so informative. Thank you to both.
Tammy you would love the book “searching for and maintaining peace” by Fr Jacque Philippe. Also “into your hands , father” by Wilfred Stinissen. Short but profound books.
Jonathan and Tammy, while I admit I had little interest in the spiritual before; I have recently had, what I can only explain as, a religious experience (in the way Jordan generally references) and since then I have come to greatly enjoy these conversations. Please keep having them.
This was so rich in insight and therefore comfort it made me tearful. Jonathan, you are such a gift to those of us Christians struggling to see God in our materialist de-enchanted traditions. Thank you, Tammy, for opening up such a wonderful conversation that so many of us can benefit from. ♥️
The important thing about the Jesus prayer is that you have a spiritual father, a man experienced in faith, preferably a monastic, who helps you progress and remove potentially dangerous stuff in your prayer and spiritual life. All the saints encourage everyone, not just the monks, to try and say the prayer ceaselessly. Some saints, like St Ephraim the Syrian, a great 4th century saint, say that saying the prayer is more important than breathing. This might be too much of a burden for beginners in the faith, so that's why the guidance of the spiritual father is so necessary. As Jonathan says, constant prayer is what we are fundamentally aiming to. Its important to realize that we do not only pray with our minds, but with our whole being - bodies included - so everything we do must fundamentally be aimed to God and must participate in Him and be transfigured by Him. God bless you and your family. Will keep you in my prayers.
Thank you both of you! ! I really think your 2 talks hits a spot that I have been longing for. I have been helped by the content of Jonathan and Jordans channels for years.
Thank you Jonathan and Tammy; hearing the cosmic image of the crucifixion was beautiful. They feel like memories brought back though, more than something totally novel. The whole conversation was a blessing.
Correction: Divorced people can absolutely receive Communion. It's Divorced and remarried outside of the declaration of nullity that is the situation in which you cannot receive. I'm surprised Jonathan didn't know this.
An imporant symbolism of the cups is that the jews drank four cups at easter and each cup meant something symbolicaly. 1. The Cup of Sanctification: “I will bring you out from under the burden of the Egyptians.” 2. The Cup of Judgment: “I will deliver you from their bondage.” 3. The Cup of Redemption: “I will . . . redeem you with an outstretched arm and with great judgments.” 4. The Cup of Praise: “I will take you for My people, and I will be your God.” The third cup, the Cup of Redemption, is the one that Jesus took “after the supper” and said, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you”. A catholic priest told me that Jesus did not drink the fourth one during the meal because the sacrifice was not complete yet. It was completed on the cross. And there He drinks the fourth bitter cup. I found this really interesting. There are probably more interpretstions to this but I found this one really interesting!
I have been very sick lately and also off gluten (after watching some of Mikhaila's videos). But I've been meaning to talk to the priest about it. Worst case scenario I'm sure I could receive the precious blood instead, or a gluten free wafer. So good to see you and your family on this journey. This video reminded me of the quote "the Eucharist is the source and summit of the Christian life" (CCC 1324). Hopefully you get to partake soon!
I am so grateful to Tammy for the vulnerability she shows and the questions from the heart. It’s one thing to listen to people with a lot of knowledge but I can relate to someone trying to find their way forward and dealing with all the confusion and obstacles too.
Jonathan is usually inspiring, the two of you together are patient and tumble searchers of the light. This was an amazing conversation. I wish you had gotten to the symbolism of the nails and other specifics of the cross that Jonathan gad before mentioned but never explained in detail. Maybe a third interview?
The Eucharist supersedes mater and human understanding. I know people with all kinds of problems digestively and bodily that are not affected negatively by the eucharist. Also, there is much layered symbology to so many things within Christianity, and yet, this is not only typology, but also bound up in reality. Christs saving work, is not merely “and this is how it helps me think about and deal with my own suffering”. The whole point is missed if we do not see that we must be baptized into his suffering and be risen up to newness of life. It is tangible and it is not just about how we think. It is a changing from death to life. God bless the Petersons in their pursuit of Truth. Which is…. Who is… Christ Jesus, the God-Man.
Praise and Glory to you Yeshua you are my light on the darkest night my strength when overwhelmed by those whom rise against me.you are my truth when darkness of the world shows only lies.You are the proof of Gods perfect love for all his children be it the orphan the widow or the lowest sinner whose heart turns towards repentance.your love turns none away that have a love of the Truth and a willing heart to stand in the truth of Gods Glory.im am forevermore your humble servant I shall remain a vessel compelled only by your blessed will may I always receive your instructions without interference from man or the influence of the wicked. I pray this for all Gods children in Jesus Christs mighty name it is done as a servant and brother before my priest and King. Maranartha Jeshura Melcheizedk....
Hi Mrs. Peterson. I really enjoyed the first part of this conversation (currently listening to part two). It’s so nice to have a direct link to your voice and opinions. I have long wondered about you as I am a long term fan of Dr. Peterson. I look forward to lots of thought provoking material from you ^ ^ I think it’s so interesting that God brought forth the first Eve out of the body of the first Adam. Whereas the second Adam, Jesus, was brought forth from the body of the second Eve, our Blessed Mother Mary. God bless you and your family. With love from Ireland 💕
1st: it’s inspiring to attend in this video with you two. 2nd: That Christ Manifestation is very much like being awake as more than we ever were before that. 3rd: And then I paused for a second because this video was recorded on my birthday; awe&some thank you!
Dear Tammy, how inspiring your podcasts have been. Such a Peterson fan 😀 I’m thrilled with your embracing of the rosary and prayer which has coincided with my personal return to Catholicism. Have you found your love of Kundalini yoga changing? I’m struggling to continue my Daily yoga practice since returning to Catholic faith. Thanks for reading. 🙏
I'm so thrilled that you have started your own channel, Tammy.
I'm one of Jordan's former students from around 2008-2010. He probably wouldn't remember me, but Jordan had an enormous impact on me and my husband (we even met in his class)! We used to marvel at his brilliance and wonder how he wasn't well known to the world. We have continued following him ever since, and we are not at all surprised to see what has unfolded for him in terms of his notoriety.
All this time, you were another well-kept secret, and you're finally revealing yourself to the world. I greatly value your wisdom and your authenticity as you explore your spirituality in the public sphere. I have recently found God, and I can say with certainty that you have played a part in my openness to Christianity. I am deeply grateful, and I believe that God is working through you and Jordan (and other intellectuals such as Jonathan) to soften the hearts of unlikely followers like myself.
Thank you, Tammy, and God bless you and your family.
Amazing ❤️
Judeo-Christian-Jungian drone, with his sadomasochist Stepchurch wife and bleached blonde botoxed grifter of a daughter.
Thank you for your comment. Much appreciated
Hallelujah! He is risen! Praise be to Jesus Christ!
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Thank you Jesus!
Indeed He's risen - for the Catholics and Protestants. One more week for us Orthodox.
In a week!
Tammy is providing a good example of what it looks like to be uninformed, but inquisitive enough to be moved towards wisdom.
Well, she has entered a new domain that is unknown to her and she’s exploring it while sharing it with others. Beautiful!
This helped me, dying isnt easy, but Christ suffered 1000 fold for us,so im willing to humble, no pride, no loss of control so far . Praise God
Speaking to when Jonathan was eluding to change that takes place in the bread and wine in the Sacrament of Communion, my wife is gluten-free and notices even very small amounts of it of she eats it, but she is able to take Communion without any effects, she is even able to eat the antidiron (blessed bread.) The bread and wine are no longer just bread and wine in the Eucharist....
I actually disagree with you and our friend Jonathan here, it’s still physically bread.
1 of 2 things is going on with your lovely wife
1. There is such a small amount of gluten in the Eucharistic bread that it doesn’t have a profound impact
2. Some small miracle is occurring (on top of the incredible miracle of Christ’s body and soul as communion) which disinhibits your wife’s allergy.
But 100% the Eucharist is still bread, look at it under the microscope and there’s still gluten. The spiritual change of substance does not alter the physical accidents of bread-ness except in rare miraculous cases that are carefully considered before being declared supernatural.
Whatever the case, it’s awesome you and your wife are close to God, hope to catch you in heaven.
Also, the make gluten-free hosts which your priest can validly consecrate upon request.
medically gluten-free person here, with the exact same experience. I am not Orthodox yet but I partake of the blessed bread with no ill effects. The church is full of beautiful mysteries!
You're probably aware that the priest or deacon that has been serving the liturgy has to eat and drink the entirety of the remaining Eucharist after finishing the service. Since I'm a student of theology at Belgrade University and a reader, I've talked to priests and bishops who have served liturgies among the sickest people you can imagine - in prisons, mental asylums, hospitals, giving the Eucharist to people with aids, hepatitis, and God knows what else, and then consuming everything left in the chalice. None of them ever got sick. There's a great book in Serbian from bishop Irinaeus of Bačka called "Свето Причешће - Лек Бесмртности" (Holy Eucharist - The Medicine of Immortality) where he brings up actual studies showing that no disease could spread via the Eucharist.
The Eucharist in the Orthodox Chruch truly is the very Christ himself. You cannot get sick from the Source of Life.
@@DavidBlagic156945 it would be curious if his research could be repeated in other churches/ by other researchers, or not…
Life itself is weird indeed, so at this point, maybe
@@DavidBlagic156945 I love that the medicine of immortality
I usually prayer 5x a day and more a day, specially in the middle of night, that quiet moment with Allah swt, just me abd Him (swt) thats best time of my life, no pleasure in world is greater....remembering Allah swt and just informal prayer dua and praising Him swt and seeking forgiveness for day to days sin, give me soo much sakinah tranquility in my heart and soul, so I can manage my inner emotions better, so I am less reactive and frustrated at the people or world around me...the taste of this feeling is beyond words....
Forever wearing my burka
That was beautiful, thank you for sharing that.
Spiritual ,enlightening conversation.Thank you so much Tammy.Love from Greece 🇬🇷 💙
I hope to be in a deeper Faith based on my believe in the Gospel of Salvation and my daily surrender, and prayers of repentance to the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. I daily receive Christ as my Savior...Being in Communion with Christ is to not allow anyone, or anything to come between you and your relationship with Christ Jesus..Giving all Glory to the GodHead. Peace and Love to you both...
THANK YOU SOOO MUCH!!!from a Romanian heart
Christ is risen! Orthodoxy is the true path to Christ!
Your husband equipped me with the intellectual tools to grapple with religion, to dispel the grip of secular materialism, and Jonathan brought me home, helped me atone and find faith.
they’re a good team in that way
For some reason every time I hear Jonathan speak about the Christ story I feel like things are becoming very serious and real, like I step into a dangerous territory where I should be careful. I guess this is the feeing that you get when discussing about sacred things. I just feel like being very quiet and just listen.
Christ is Risen, dear friends!
Tammy,
I met you and your husband in January near DC with Metropolitan Jonah, and I gave you a copy of an Akathist to the Holy Virgin.
I'm severely allergic to gluten (Celiac disease), and I can receive Holy Communion at any Eastern Orthodox Church without negative symptoms.
Glory to God!
"There's nothing else to talk about." That's a sign of friendship bonded in a mutual love for the Good.
Symbolically it cannot be denied that her husband is a mythical figure in the process of flipping this upside-down world on it's head'. I could not be more pleased at knowing this lovely numinous creature is at his side. *Glory be to God*
Hi Tammy, great video again. Crossing the arms whilst going up for communion in Roman Catholic mass is going up for a blessing they call it. Please look into the Eucharist, Confession, Rosary and Eucharistic Adoration as they are all very important to live out the faith. Blessings to you!
I have read the “Way of a Pilgrim.” I bought it from St. Anthony’s Coptic monastery in Barstow. I love reading or listening to the Orthodox Elders. They’re so profound. I have a great devotion to St. Nectarios. It’s interesting that I very much enjoy and feel at home with both Catholic and Orthodox spirituality but sadly they don’t try to go deeper into understanding each other’s spirituality. Both churches are so rich with beautiful traditions and ways of worship that if shared it will be of great benefit to the church. Thank you Jonathan and Tammy. ✝️😇
I always pray for the unity of the churches and I think we all should.
I Love You All Here ✝️
It is cute and wholesome how Tammy and Jordan Peterson are similar in expression and speech. They truly have a lot of admiration and respect for each other, and I wish this kind of relationship for everyone, who wants to marry and bind oneself to their significant other
You can receive communion in the Catholic Church only in the form of consacrated Wine. But you have to be in Communion with the Church, as Jonathan said, and explained so well. For both Catholics and Orthodox, Communion is the center of the life is Christ, because it IS Christ himself.
Catholic churches also have gluten free hosts available.
I agree, the Holy Eucharist is central and is life giving to Catholics🙏❤️
Tammy. You're the 1st Lady of our hearts. I'm so glad I just came across this. Bless you
Just what I needed on Easter Sunday 💗 Thank you!
I've come to realise that communion is very important. I was brought up Catholic and had that version weekly. I converted to orthodoxy 3 years ago and the experience and understanding is infinitely deeper (speaking for myself here and no offence intended). This last year has been the most challenging of my life. Last Sunday when I took communion at an orthodox church I was truly humbled by the strength and life giving power it provided. I wept. But good and grateful tears. The tears I needed to shed to be focused on our awesome and loving Father. It's difficult to explain but I would encourage anyone to look further into the orthodox communion and the life it provides 💛
I loved reading your witness to the power of Holy Communion and how it affected you.
I am Roman Catholic. Receiving Jesus in Holy Communion gives me such peace and joy; and I, too, weep 'good and grateful' tears that the God of Heaven and earth, who allows me to consume His Body and Blood, enters my body and takes His rightful place, on the throne of my heart. For a short while I I remain still and tell Him that I am so grateful for His presence that I wish to share Him with all those who are unable to receive Him.
The Roman Catholic church recognises the Holy Orders of the Eastern Orthodox church and, though there is a schism, we are one when we receive the Eucharist ❤
I understand what you’re saying. I’m an Armenian Orthodox and I attend mass in the Catholic Church. I love the Catholic devotions, specially the Rosary and the Divine Mercy prayers and prayers to the Sacred Heart of Jesus and the Immaculate Heart of Mary. I like the symbolism. As for the communion I wish the priests would give the communion in a more solemn and not so fast and casual way. That hurts me! Then there is the Eucharistic adoration. It’s the same thing over there. But of course not all priests are like that. For example Fr. Mark Goring and Fr. Alar and a few more. They are full of passion for Christ and the fire of the Holy Spirit.I also love the Greek Orthodox spirituality and their solemnity. I pray the Jesus prayer very often and it goes very deep inside me. It’s so profound.
Well, may God unite all the churches bc Christ established one church and division comes from Satan.
God bless Jonathan and Tammy.
I am writing a seminar work about the understanding of the eucharist in the early church. Loved your description of the cup jonathan:
Christ is drinking up the whole ocean of chaos and he is containing it. And it is not too much for him ultimately, which is why he resurrects.
Amen! That's put beautifully and poetically!
I just received Eucharist today on Easter for the first time in a while, my heart has never been fuller with love
31:36
“If I could but touch the hem of his garment”
I love the faith of this woman!
You don’t *need* the bread of Christ to be saved, but you do need to be a part of his body. Since his Body is in the bread, that’s the normal and ordinary means of grace. But there is also spiritual communion, open to all who want to fully receive Christ in their hearts but who cannot access the official sacraments of the Church for whatever reason.
Jonathan is right, you NEED to commune with God. The nuance to add is that there are even examples of Catholic and Orthodox communities that go a whole generation without a priest or an established church but still make spiritual progress and become close to God through baptism and the scriptures. Obviously a rich and complete sacramental life is preferred above anything else in life, but it is not absolutely necessary.
"Golum by holding on to his precious becomes a kind of living dead thing." Wow, it makes so much sense! Thank you Tammy! You, Mr. Pageau and Dr. Peterson and have helped me so much on strengthening my faith. Now I think I am more willing to take the bitter cups, pay the prices to face the chaos and fear to bring order to the lives of my family and myself.
Them: So, why didn’t Jesus go to Antarctica then?😩
Me: Because walking on water is better🙏🏽
Jonathan trying to get across the idea of the inability for Holy Communion to do physical harm is the best part of this interview. Bless Tammy for her concerns about taking Communion regarding her health, but just thought it was pretty comical the way Jonathan was trying to explain the Eucharist though Tammy didn't understand.
I have celiac disease so the eucharist which contains wheat would do me physical harm, this is just a fact.
These conversations between you and Jonathan so far have been two lights in the darkness, for me. I have already returned to them multiple times. I relate to you, Tammy, as someone finding religion later in life. Thank you both, from the depths of my being.
These discussions are very therapeutical. Thank you both so much!
Thank you!!!!
I agree with Jonathan's comment about Tammy sharing her journey - Calling it "bright"!
Awareness, comprehension, then discernment... Let go, and let God!
Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, today is a gift, that's why we call it the "present". Be in the NOW... be present and mindful of SELF!
Keep sharing!!! 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
kungfu panda quote! ah, one of the culture
@@Ganghamstelty And an AA axiom... I often wondered if the writer of the film script is in recovery.
We learn in recovery, that we suffer from a three fold malady - physical, mental, and spiritual. We need to accept our powerlessness... Deconstruct the EGO, often referred to as "Edging God Out". Then, when the spiritual malady is overcome, we straighten out mentally and physically; by working the 12 steps. We are "reborn or... resurrected" if you will.
This idea/concept is applicable to anyone.
Tammy, I'm so glad you have a channel! I look forward to being on this journey with you. There are Gluten Free Wafers in my Catholic Church, and they are very very tiny--the size of a quarter. Maybe ask your priest at the appropriate time. The whole time I was in RCIA class (class for new folks coming into the Catholic Church--I was Methodist--) I went up at communion and received the blessing with arms crossed. I loved that too--I had first communion this past Easter. I look forward to seeing everything you learn and have to say. I was diagnosed with Stage 4 cancer in 2015. Metastasis to my liver and both lungs. Now I'm in remission for 7 years now. I identify with that aspect of your story. Thank you and God Bless you and your family. Big fan of your husband, and now you!!!!
I'm still trying to find a church that gives me depth, of thoughtful spirituality, personal challenge and hopeful faith.
I've had 3 financial reports instead of a sermon. And today, today was so shallow I was in tears of frustration as I took communion.
I would love to find community and well as thoughtful spiritual leadership.
But so far RUclips has been the avenue of discovery and source of knowledge.
Thank you for sharing yourself Tammy, for being a beacon of light and hope. And to Jonathan for your wisdom and gentle direction, pointing at the path.
The Orthodox Church is what you're looking for.
If you're looking for fuel to come closer to Jesus. Watch Jesus testimonials. They have opened my eyes in a way sermons can miss sometimes. These testimonies tie our daily lives to the bible in a personal way while still Praising God.
I started with Reema Angelique "Demons are Real" It's just her telling her real life story and it's more powerful, more beautiful than Hollywood movie you could ever watch.
There is a great challenge for spiritual seekers with advanced mental fascinations
“With much wisdom comes much vexation.”
Not that it’s bad to be smart. But if you believe in community, you HAVE to accept that sometimes you might be the smartest person in the room dealing with a bunch of lackluster ideas even if you’re all centered towards a higher good.
This is not to say just join a church if the idiots have no love and are greedy to the point of complete spiritual corruption.
But it’s also to say that if you expect the real world community of your neighbors to be as intellectually stimulating as consuming the breadth of the world’s knowledge in hyperspeed as on youtube, you’re never going to be happy.
I hope you find a parish church that you feel welcomed into and can express your beautiful gifts in a way that bears fruit. But remember how Christ looks at you when you look at your neighbor in the pew, and you’d think even the most greedy bastard going through rote motions is just a saint in the making.
Also, last point, Church liturgies are not supposed to be primarily about moral formation, friendship, intellectual stimulation, or even an exciting emotional event: the idea is to raise your heart in praise together with the people of good will, if but for only one measly hour a week you might be able to focus on something other than yourself, namely Jesus Christ, our God who loved us to the point of death and raises us up within Himself to God by way of his Spirit.
Happy Easter friend
If you are catholic, the first thing you have to understand is mass is not about you. It's about God. It's about giving to God, and not taking for yourself.
If you are looking for spiritual enrichment and nourishment and community, then there are many orders with a lay component you can join. The Dominicans, Franciscan, and carmelites are obvious ones. But that's not mass, thats outside of mass. Most areas have some community nearby.
Hope this helps.
The Lord is wise, the devil invented you tube to influence us,But many pieces are controlled by God, when they change that I will throw this phone into the black of the sea 💝
I can fully picture myself as any person in the New Testament, except for Jesus. Yet He is the one we all need to model our being after. That realization just makes me feel so sinful.
You should watch Dan Mohler videos. He saved my life
@@mini1gerbel and any Jesus testimonial. You pick
New age to Jesus
Witchcraft to Jesus
Meth addiction to Jesus
Porn addiction to Jesus
Suicidal to Jesus.......
Jesus Saves
@@mini1gerbel 🥇
Mrs. Peterson. You have the greatest opportunity to spread the word of Jesus Christ. The Power is in our testimonies. You hqve an opportunity to invite people and share experiences that are still happening today. The new testament is a book of testimonies and is finished as it is written but Jesus's works have never stopped. People everyday are being saved in the most miraculous ways. He used your husband to strike my interest in the Bible. But it was Jesus that gave me life again. All the Glory must go to him. You have something here that can be far more impactful than you realize. Please consider this. I Love you guys. God bless you.
Jason Farrell
When the Lord skips a stone across the water it doesn't just ripple outward a few times. His stone never stop skipping.
I like this conversion very much. I also appreciate Tammy's honesty and politeness. The conversion on Holy Communion is very important and I really hope she will be convinced to take the Body and Blood of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ - not a bread and wine.
I am an new follower of Johnathon! He is very helpful to my new walk in the orthodox faith! God bless him!
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I adore the way you laugh, Tammy! It’s so heartful! ❤️ and also thank you so much for this series of podcasts. I am from Romania, 34 of age, orthodox, and these talk really light up my faith. It helps to understand the simbolism of the bible. ❤
This is the nicest lady I have ever met. So genuinely sincere. What Jesus would have referred to as "without guile " as with Nathaniel. I long to speak with this glorious family.
Hi Tammy
If you would like to experience a beautiful English Orthodox service please visit Holy Theotokos convent located 30 minutes north of Toronto in the beautiful community of Cedar Valley. It's a glimpse of heaven on earth.
Lord have mercy on us🙏
Tammy, your comments about bitterness and self-pity ( beginning right around mark 30 minutes in) resonates with me, thank you for sharing your inner thoughts and struggle. Thank you both and God bless you.
Thank you Tammy for sharing your story, it truly is helping me to understand mine. God Bless you and all those you love.
Tammy I truly love that you have started your own channel and are having deep lay discussions surrounding faith, suffering, and the cross. I implore you though to dive deeper into the Eucharist and rediscover the Catholic teachings around it. The Eucharist is the entire summit of our faith. EVERYTHING depends on it and if we are to truly unite ourselves with God for the salvation of our souls then we must consume the Body of Christ. Praying for you, Jordan, and your family always. God Bless.
“Stay with me, remain here with me; watch and pray.”
I'm increasingly coming to appreciate the importance of communion- to crave it and be satisfied by it. It has drawn me to go to daily mass more frequently, rather than Sunday only.
Hi Thanks to you both for a joyful conversation important for humanity .When you receive the Holy Eucharist
you receive the actual body ,blood of Christ his DNA resonates with yourDNA which over time helps you
emulate his Holy Will with the abundance Grace from the Holy Ghost and the Creator Father making a marriage
between the community body of his church with Heaven. Thank you 🙏
Loved it. Thank you both.
I told myself I wasn't going to watch RUclips on Easter Sunday....but I've been dealing with illness quite a bit in 2022, and got to a point today where I was so tired, I couldn't do anything else. I've been feeling so out of it, I was not able to go to church this morning, or visit with relatives, something I try to do every Easter. So I'm here by myself, resting, watching RUclips, and thankfully, this popped up as a recommended video. So glad for it! This was my "Sunday service."
Janathan Pageau has been everywhere on RUclips lately, and I'm very glad for it.
Anyway, I had several thoughts concerning this conversation:
1. Tammy wisely mentions those times when we "have our leg trapped in a snare", when we come to the end of ourselves in the material world, and see no way forward. Amongst Alcoholics Anonymous, this is known as "rock bottom"; when you have gotten to a point where you either change or die, because "the same old..." just isn't going to cut it anymore. Everyone of us has our equivalent of a "rock bottom" moment in life, where we have to decide what's truly important. In a way, the crucifixion was Jesus' "rock bottom" moment, and he went right into it.
2. In regards to the crucifixion, there are three main messages that come from Jesus death and resurrection that are most important to me:
- God demonstrates his LOVE for man, by allowing himself to be killed by those who should have been the most welcoming.
- God demonstrates that death is NOT the end of life, but the beginning of life eternal.
- And lastly, God demonstrates that you have to go through hell to get to heaven. For Jesus, his "hell" was the crucifixion itself. But it is also taught that Jesus literally went to hell, not because of his guilt, but to literally set souls free who were trapped there.
3. I've read "The Way of the Pilgrim" as mentioned by Jonathan, and have to say it is one of the greatest spiritual works ever written, right up there with the Bible. I encourage everyone to buy a copy and read it. It's a demonstration of how "The Jesus Prayer" can be a very powerful practice in one's life. Lately, I've felt called to go back to the wisdom of the Jesus Prayer, and was so glad to hear you talk about it. For me, this was confirmation that I need to get back to that practice.
4. In regards to prayer, a Catholic Polish nun known as St. Faustina, who lived in Poland right before the outbreak of WWII, is one of the most important saints to learn about and follow at this point in time in world history. Jesus himself gave her a new way to pray the Rosary, where it's basically praying the Jesus Prayer for the entire world, as well as yourself. This new way of praying the Rosary is known as the Chaplet of Divine Mercy. There is an American Shrine of Devine Mercy in Stockbridge, Massachusetts that broadcasts this chaplet everyday on RUclips at 3 pm Eastern time. I would encourage everyone to get to know more about this prayer and St. Faustina, as it's a real blessing.
5. Communion. There is the literal, physical practice of communion that is commonly done by Orthodox and Catholic churches, involving the wafer and the wine. But there is deeper meaning and purpose of "communion" that is taught by the saints, and that is union with God, or Devine Union. Of the two, the second is a far, far more important form of communion. While you don't have to choose between the two, the material form of communion is the symbol of the spiritual Devine Union. You can engage in the material practice without ever encountering for feeling the spiritual equivalent, but once a soul enters into Devine Union, which is entirely spiritual, you will finally be able to see the material world for what it really is, and truly understand the love and mercy of God.
From the Encyclopedia Britannica:
"The goal of the mystic is not simply a transient ecstasy; it is a permanent state of being in which the person’s nature is transformed or deified. This state is frequently spoken of as a spiritual marriage involving God and the soul. This unitive life has two main aspects. First, while the consciousness of self and the world remains, that consciousness is accompanied by a continuous sense of union with God, as Teresa of Ávila clearly shows in discussing the seventh mansion in The Interior Castle. Brother Lawrence wrote that while he was at work in his kitchen he possessed God “in as great tranquillity as if I were upon my knees at the Blessed Sacrament” (The Practice of the Presence of God, chapter 4). Second, the spiritual marriage is a theopathic state: the soul is felt to be in all things the organ or instrument of God. In the unitive life Mme Guyon says that the soul “no longer lives or works of herself, but God lives, acts and works in her.” In this state the mystic is able to engage in manifold activities without losing the grace of union. In the words of Ignatius of Loyola, the mystic is “contemplative in action.”
6. On Jesus becoming the serpent: as strange as it sounds, this symbolism is very important. Moses actually made serpent made of bronze, mounted it on a pole, and used it as a means of healing those Israelis who had been bitten by serpents. It's referenced briefly in the Book of Numbers, chapter 21.
Thanks again for doing and sharing this video! It was a real blessing.
Hope you get better bro
I appreciate your high quality comments.
Keep learning, keep loving.
God willing I’ll catch you on the other side of life
If you're suffering give yourself to Jesus. He stands at the door waiting for us to open it. He will show you his divine love if you repent and believe in him. He can bring peace to the most weary. You will know in your heart heaven is real.
Appreciative of the grace both Tammy and Jonathan conveyed and expressed that allowed for this open authentic conversation. Thank you!!!!
Beautiful discussion between the two of you. Thank you. With every podcast I hear with Mr. Pageau, the more appreciative I grow. I love the richness in the Orthodox traditions. Re. communion, I know it's already been commented on, but just in case it's not fully understood: the tiniest amount only needs to be taken. A crumb of the Host, a sip from the cup wetting your tongue for the fullness of Jesus to be present. Let concerns for diet or health not be an impediment. One or the other can be taken for full communion. The most important thing in receiving is believing, and wanting to be in union. Perhaps that decision hasn't been made in the heart to identify with a particular Faith for fear or doubt or wanting to remain neutral or open to exploration. So, wait for it. It's a journey no one can rush you on. You will *know* when you desire nothing else. Love and prayers.
Thank you for your reply. I will take your advice of gently receiving a crumb or only wet my tongue. That is a subtle and suitable answer
More of this please! 🙏
Happy Easter everyone
As a Believer confessing the Apostle’s Creed and in communion with Christ, Tammy you ARE VERY MUCH welcome to receive communion at any Anglican Church in the ACNA (North America). I believe it’s the Roman Catholic Church requires you have been formally “confirmed” by the Roman Catholic Church. So the Anglican Church receives members of Roman Catholic Church to be in communion, but not the other way around.
God is good, keep praying, keep loving ❤️
Dear Tammy, your eagerness to find the truth is really moving and I'm sure that God will lighten your path. As a Greek Orthodox who hasn't always been religious, I can confirm that Orthodox church is a hospital for the soul. I think that it would be useful for you to find a priest and confess, that's the first step. Confessing to a priest it's not the same thing as confessing to a friend. It is often that people being reluctant to open up to a "stranger" they think that talking to a friend can replace this procedure. It can't. As regards the Communion, you can't get no harm by it. Just consider this. In Orthodox church, whatever is left inside the holy grail, after all attendants have received their spoon of bread and wine (Body and Blood), the priest is obliged to consume it himself. And the same thing happens in times of pandemic, in hospitals with highly contagious diseases and so on. So, the Orthodox priests should have been a professional group with a very high rate of morbidness and a low rate of life expectancy, but this doesn't happen. There was even an island in Greece where the Greek state would send the lepers. Same thing there, there was a healthy priest who served the community of lepers for a decade and never got Ill.
This is good. Thank you
Thankyou. These discussons brings me peace.
Really looking forward to listening to the rest of this. The opening is touching already.
Jesus died for our sins, according to the scriptures, was buried, and rose again from the dead the third day according to the scriptures. (1 Cor. 15:1-4; Eph. 2:8-9)
Christ was made sin for us; who knew no sin so that we might be made the righteousness of God through Him.
There is none righteous, no not one: for all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. So when we simply BELIEVE what Christ has done for us by BELIEVING the gospel - death, burial, and resurrection. Then God imputes His perfect righteousness to our account and freely justifies us by His blood and the faith of Jesus Christ.
Lord bless Tammy! 🙏✝️💘
As a Baptist, I've really only recently come to see the significance of the sacraments.This conversation was helpful and the honesty in it is really refreshing. I appreciated you sharing your thoughts, and experience, Tammy. I agree, it's so important. It's everything, really. I appreciate your answers, Jonathan, and your gentle pushing. I'm looking forward to the other videos and would be interested in hearing about all of the sacraments in more detail. Also, when the video opened, around minute 1, when Jonathan explained the need for attending etc and said "Wake up!..."...I found it really moving....if I was on my phone, I would put a bunch of emotional emojis here...lol:)
Dear Mrs. Peterson and Jonathan,
Thank you so very much for sharing this conversation. The reminder of the Jesus Prayer and The Path of the Pilgrim is so timely in my own life. The Peterson family has been in my prayers for several years as each of you has struggled with health. But, most importantly God has been calling each of you to Himself. It is thrilling to see those prayers for your deepening relationship with God being answered. It is not because the Peterson family is influential. It is because each of you is loved by God just because you are His child. Dr. Peterson 's forthcoming book HE WHO WRESTLES WITH GOD is do appropriately named. Blessings and prayers regarding your tour!
I’m beginning to realize why God spared her life, that’s bc He had a plan for her to evangelize and bring souls to Him. ✝️👼
Im loving these talks.
Awesome, Happy Easter Mrs. Peterson!
Jonathan Pageau is such an eloquent speaker who knows how to adapt his speech to the listener. His observations on the crucifixion leave to want to meditate on this further. And this journey Tammy is on is so informative. Thank you to both.
Tammy you would love the book “searching for and maintaining peace” by Fr Jacque Philippe. Also “into your hands , father” by Wilfred Stinissen. Short but profound books.
Love it. Wow, good snake bad snake, that's really got me thinking! Thanks so much.
Jonathan and Tammy, while I admit I had little interest in the spiritual before; I have recently had, what I can only explain as, a religious experience (in the way Jordan generally references) and since then I have come to greatly enjoy these conversations. Please keep having them.
This was so rich in insight and therefore comfort it made me tearful. Jonathan, you are such a gift to those of us Christians struggling to see God in our materialist de-enchanted traditions. Thank you, Tammy, for opening up such a wonderful conversation that so many of us can benefit from. ♥️
Bless you Tammy thank you.
31:00 - 32:11 Amen, Mrs. Peterson! Amen!
Love your conversations together
Thanks Tammy and Jonathan!
Thank you
The important thing about the Jesus prayer is that you have a spiritual father, a man experienced in faith, preferably a monastic, who helps you progress and remove potentially dangerous stuff in your prayer and spiritual life. All the saints encourage everyone, not just the monks, to try and say the prayer ceaselessly. Some saints, like St Ephraim the Syrian, a great 4th century saint, say that saying the prayer is more important than breathing. This might be too much of a burden for beginners in the faith, so that's why the guidance of the spiritual father is so necessary. As Jonathan says, constant prayer is what we are fundamentally aiming to. Its important to realize that we do not only pray with our minds, but with our whole being - bodies included - so everything we do must fundamentally be aimed to God and must participate in Him and be transfigured by Him.
God bless you and your family. Will keep you in my prayers.
Thank you both of you! ! I really think your 2 talks hits a spot that I have been longing for. I have been helped by the content of Jonathan and Jordans channels for years.
Thank you both for your time. These talks have been very enlightening.
Thank you Jonathan and Tammy; hearing the cosmic image of the crucifixion was beautiful. They feel like memories brought back though, more than something totally novel.
The whole conversation was a blessing.
Correction: Divorced people can absolutely receive Communion. It's Divorced and remarried outside of the declaration of nullity that is the situation in which you cannot receive. I'm surprised Jonathan didn't know this.
An imporant symbolism of the cups is that the jews drank four cups at easter and each cup meant something symbolicaly.
1. The Cup of Sanctification: “I will bring you out from under the burden of the Egyptians.”
2. The Cup of Judgment: “I will deliver you from their bondage.”
3. The Cup of Redemption: “I will . . . redeem you with an outstretched arm and with great judgments.”
4. The Cup of Praise: “I will take you for My people, and I will be your God.”
The third cup, the Cup of Redemption, is the one that Jesus took “after the supper” and said, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you”.
A catholic priest told me that Jesus did not drink the fourth one during the meal because the sacrifice was not complete yet. It was completed on the cross. And there He drinks the fourth bitter cup.
I found this really interesting. There are probably more interpretstions to this but I found this one really interesting!
He IS risen
My favourite family
You guys got a whole Peterverse going
I have been very sick lately and also off gluten (after watching some of Mikhaila's videos). But I've been meaning to talk to the priest about it. Worst case scenario I'm sure I could receive the precious blood instead, or a gluten free wafer.
So good to see you and your family on this journey. This video reminded me of the quote "the Eucharist is the source and summit of the Christian life" (CCC 1324). Hopefully you get to partake soon!
I am so grateful to Tammy for the vulnerability she shows and the questions from the heart. It’s one thing to listen to people with a lot of knowledge but I can relate to someone trying to find their way forward and dealing with all the confusion and obstacles too.
God bless you both. The whole conversation was lovely but the end was incredibly heart warming ♥️
Jonathan is usually inspiring, the two of you together are patient and tumble searchers of the light. This was an amazing conversation. I wish you had gotten to the symbolism of the nails and other specifics of the cross that Jonathan gad before mentioned but never explained in detail. Maybe a third interview?
The Eucharist supersedes mater and human understanding. I know people with all kinds of problems digestively and bodily that are not affected negatively by the eucharist. Also, there is much layered symbology to so many things within Christianity, and yet, this is not only typology, but also bound up in reality. Christs saving work, is not merely “and this is how it helps me think about and deal with my own suffering”. The whole point is missed if we do not see that we must be baptized into his suffering and be risen up to newness of life. It is tangible and it is not just about how we think. It is a changing from death to life. God bless the Petersons in their pursuit of Truth. Which is…. Who is… Christ Jesus, the God-Man.
Praise and Glory to you Yeshua you are my light on the darkest night my strength when overwhelmed by those whom rise against me.you are my truth when darkness of the world shows only lies.You are the proof of Gods perfect love for all his children be it the orphan the widow or the lowest sinner whose heart turns towards repentance.your love turns none away that have a love of the Truth and a willing heart to stand in the truth of Gods Glory.im am forevermore your humble servant I shall remain a vessel compelled only by your blessed will may I always receive your instructions without interference from man or the influence of the wicked. I pray this for all Gods children in Jesus Christs mighty name it is done as a servant and brother before my priest and King. Maranartha
Jeshura Melcheizedk....
Hi Mrs. Peterson.
I really enjoyed the first part of this conversation (currently listening to part two). It’s so nice to have a direct link to your voice and opinions. I have long wondered about you as I am a long term fan of Dr. Peterson. I look forward to lots of thought provoking material from you ^ ^
I think it’s so interesting that God brought forth the first Eve out of the body of the first Adam. Whereas the second Adam, Jesus, was brought forth from the body of the second Eve, our Blessed Mother Mary.
God bless you and your family.
With love from Ireland 💕
This is wonderful , God bless you both
That was great and learnt a lot. Thanks!
Greetings from Defiance MO. Thanks for coming to STL!
Tammy and Heather Heying from DarkHorse would have the most lovely conversations, big Wise Mother Archetype energy
1st: it’s inspiring to attend in this video with you two. 2nd: That Christ Manifestation is very much like being awake as more than we ever were before that. 3rd: And then I paused for a second because this video was recorded on my birthday; awe&some thank you!
Dear Tammy, how inspiring your podcasts have been. Such a Peterson fan 😀
I’m thrilled with your embracing of the rosary and prayer which has coincided with my personal return to Catholicism. Have you found your love of Kundalini yoga changing? I’m struggling to continue my Daily yoga practice since returning to Catholic faith. Thanks for reading. 🙏
You have a great presence Tammy I see what Jordan saw in you all those years ago you are every bit his match. To his power you hold grace.
This was helpful. You handled this conversation so well, Jonathan. It does give us hope.
Thank you for this!!