Seems to me the sex was consensual, but I think the mental and emotional meltdown was during his torture. These meltdowns manifested in what happened at the eclipse.
I would say that's the spark of the meltdown, I don't think he was as far gone as you claimed. Again, I don't consider what he did to be rape, it seemed consensual and being 16 in the cultural setting of Berserk doesn't mean she isn't old enough to consent. People take advantage of all kinds of things to have sex, but that doesn't mean they are rapists. Perhaps, but did he know the king was going to find out? I don't think you can argue that he did. You are running this train of thought on lots of assumptions about Griffith's intentions at the time which I'm not sure can be verified by the canon. I agree with you about his character flaws, but again I think you're assuming that Griffith somehow knew or intended things to turn out how they did which I think is wrong.
She is young and niave and Griffith used that to his advantage in order to bed her! she was never showed affection until Griffith and so was mesmerised and intrigued nothing more. He knew what would happen if the king found out what he did with charlotte! was he expecting too be told by the king ''yeah its alright have sex with my daughter its no Biggy'' come on now.
Guts believed so much in Griffith, but was so oblivious to the fact that leaving him behind was the biggest wound he could ever inflict on him. Griffith's lost all reason the moment he says "If he will not be mine, his life is forfeit". It isn't love anymore at that point, but a sick obsession. In that moment, Guts' gentleness, admiration, and true loyalty shine for Griffith and his dream. But Griffith's evil and disorientation bloom as a result of an infatuation he couldn't healthily cope with.
I agree with most of what you said however calling Griffith's mindset at this point "evil" may be and with complete humility and respect may be a bit extreme. Now was it unhealthy ABSOLUTELY, lack of communication (to a strong degree) and misunderstanding each other's motives and motivation (to a similar degree) on both their parts caused this event to occur. While Griffith's choices after this and the consequences that followed were his alone this defeat would be a catalyst for everything that followed.
I love how much characterization there is in the fight itself. Griffith fully understands Guts, and knows exactly what he's going to do. He makes a decision and follows through, even at the potential cost of Guts' life. And Guts just carries forward, winning through sheer, unrelenting force.
I think this scene (at the manga or anime) is the moment where everyone realizes that a story never has to be as an audience wants to, to be an amazing story
This scene reminds me of my life leaving the nest to become more self reliant you can have a master of something to teach you everything but at somepoint but you must leave in order to continue to make yourself stronger and become more self- reliant on your own. Your friends , family and fears will keep you back from your destiny and choosing your own path. Gutz was stronger and better than everyone there and it was pointless for him to be a general when he was his own army.
He just wanted to be considered an equal friend, not be under Griffiths thumb where he would never truly get the respect he felt he wanted. Besides that He has always been an introvert and now that it was all over it was time to move on and search for meaning
I wish Guts had at least told Griffith that he was leaving out of respect for him to be his equal because maybe Griffith would have taken his departure less harshly because I think Griffith thought Guts leaving was the opposite being a sign of dis-respect towards him. Nonetheless, Griffith was clearly was sore loser because of how he handled defeat for the first time and should have known that Guts was a better swordsmen than him because of what Guts had done since their first fight. (1) Guts was injured when they first fought, (2) Guts bulked up by like 50 lbs of pure muscle over those 3 years due his training and heavy sword, and (3) Guts had faced more legit opponents such as Zodd, General Boscone, and the 100 men he killed all by himself in one night.
I don't know if Griffith would have cared. He had an unhealthy relationship with Guts already. If Griffith was going to make Guts fight to leave at all, that would have more than likely applied for that too.
This is so sad. He only left because he wanted to find a dream so Guts could be his friend. But the results from this fight are what led to Griffith's downfall.
"You're going to be alright, you've just stumbled over a stone in the road. It means nothing. Your goal lies far beyond this, doesn't it? I'm sure you'll overcome this. You'll walk again, soon."
Femto was born the moment he allowed himself to get too attached to Guts. His attachment to Guts is the only thing that made him stray from his dream, which he points out to himself after being tortured in the dungeon. And since the event of them parting ways was inevitable, and since Griffith allowed himself to get too attached, he couldn’t cope when Guts left him. He already had problems processing his own emotions (as evidenced by his self-harm scene after sleeping with that pedophilic lord), so this absolutely broke him.
Femto was born when he received that behelit and was chosen to be the anti-christ. He thought he had ideals but his whole string of disasters was apart of the plan. To get him to open his weak heart then snatch what was left of his humanity so he would completely break and be reborn as his destiny foretold.
This was one of the biggest mistakes of both Guts and Griffith after this Griffith decided to satisfy his sexual appetite by going after a inbred princess.
And he looks at me... And I look at him... And he looks at mee... And I look at hiim... *And he looks at meee...* *And I look at hiim...* *AND HE LOOKS AT MEEEE* *AND I LOOK AT HIIIIIIIM*
griffith had and still has the same perception of guts and himself as corkus did, griffith would have mocked him with a "suit yourself" before having this fight play out just the same
Kinda off topic, but I hope to god Guts manages to brutally kill Griffith by the end of Beserk. I honestly shocks me that people can romanticize the bastard after everything he's done.
I'm saying you are judging Griffith far too harshly. I'magine being at the absolute top of the world, could even be the next king, peak physical condition only to have the entire world crumble around you. you can never move again or eat again without help on top of that you have your penis and balls cut off. now tell me if you saw the opportunity to get it all back would you take it? many people say no while not knowing what its like to truly have nothing left, these same people would be the first to do so. not saying it was not a bad thing, but every character including guts deserves what's coming to them. murdering a child in cold blood does not put one out of reach of recompense no matter how they atone for it. not to mention Griffith said from the very beginning that everyone who follows him only exists to help fulfill his dream. they all knew their life was on the line at every moment they fought for him and in the end he took all of them.
killa1711 I don't give a shit. Before the apocalypse HE FUCKING INITIATED, he was a condescending control freak that was willing to do whatever it took to achieve his dream. Then, he stabbed all the Hawks in the back, became a fucking demon, RAPED CASCA, and has been making Guts' life a living hell. I don't care about what happened to him in the past, or how Guts' departure, his castration, and torture drove him over the edge, that doesn't excuse the evil shit he's done ever since then. Interpret Griffith however you want, but in my eyes, he's a fucking monster that's past the point of redemption. If Beserk doesn't end with Guts killing him in the most painful way imaginable, I'm gonna be feeling seriously ripped off.
Looking back at this scene I do feel bad for griffith because even tho he had that friend speech with charlotte I still think he cared about his men deep down subconsciously and was lying to himself so he wouldn't feel tied to his emotions while he was trying to strive for his ideal kingdom and guts was like the only closest thing he ever had to being a best friend and then right when their about to reach the top guts just leaves with no explanation..it's like he reacted the only way he knew how by trying to act dominate and make guts respect him through battle and make guts stay instead of trying to ask him why he was leaving..that's what's so realistic and human about this scene because both of their egos got in the way cause guts was being too stubborn to explain himself and griffith was reacting in an upset manner probably cause he thought guts was being a traitor by just leaving him and the hawks out of nowhere...miaru executed this scene perfectly
Griffith was a good guy then, yes he was a control freak and probably a toxic friend, but a friend nonetheless, at least to Guts. He just didn't realize how dependent he had become on Guts. I do empathize with his downward spiral after Guts leaves him. We all have friends who move outside your neighbourhood and we wish life would remain the same. But you don't sacrifice them to fricking demons.
I really wonder what it'd be like if there was an Alternate Universe where Guts never leaves and never hears Griffith's speech on a true friend needing to be an equal.
My fansub days of anime watching on realplayer, dowloaded from primative websites as admins worked earnestly to keep anime and site updates a daily living. We were a community of fans in the same chrysalis. How I hope heaven will be this nostalgia reborn.
It’s the fact that Griffith drew all his self-worth not from his accomplishments but from his personal satisfaction with his abilities for the longest period he viewed himself the be all end all in every category that could exist, the best swordsman, the best horseman, the best tactician, yet suddenly the thing that got him so far wasn’t his anymore, the gap in skill between him and guts was so great that he couldn’t even predict correctly the strength of guts, that’s the moment Griffith started thinking to himself maybe he wasn’t worthy of any of this, maybe he didn’t achieve any of that, maybe it was all guts from the beginning and he was just the side character in the epicness of guts achievement which even though they might not be known to people, Griffith himself knows it and can’t stand it that maybe he isn’t the best anymore. The ultimate imposter syndrome in just a few panels.
“If HE will not be MINE, his life is FORFEIT.” In the end, Guts like the Band of the Hawk, were just possessions for Griffith. Like pets told what to do. He never viewed any of them as his true friends, he told the Princess this himself. It wasn’t until he lost Guts that he possibly realized differently.
In the anime he broke the sable, but in the manga he didn't, he won griffith by strategy. The anime made it look like he is just brute, but actually he developed strategy and had better battle mind, he won him not because only of his strength, he won him because of the experience he gained in the battles.
It showed, in the anime, with the blade being broken, that Guts could have easily killed Griffith. However, Guts held back. That’s not being a brute, that’s being compassionate while showing how strong he really is.
Griffith fucked hisself over by going after the princess like he did so early i mean she already liked him and his army was already reknown before he had Guts with them granted he lost his ultimate badass but hell he fucked hisself over not guts
KarDean Wilks True, but he was never gonna be allowed to get with the princess, even after everything he's done for the kingdom, cause her father was a creep and wanted her for himself. At least now he's out of the way, plus Griffith has the princess and his own kingdom
It's funny because when I initially did this the intention was to avoid the clip getting taken down from the mass copyright flags. Nowadays the whole series is here on RUclips from multiple channels.
With the passing of Miura it's so much more tragic. I've never met him before, but his story had SO MUCH IMPACT on my life. still can't believe he's gone. =/
Haha I've never noticed this before but in the opening shot that pans out to Griffith his swords curve is pointed downards but in the close up his sword is in the opposite direction.
Griffith is basically the somewhat decent fighter with lots of fans and a cult following who vouch for him ! And Guts is that talented guy who will prove them wrong by changing their views.
Not according the themes of Berserk. "In this world, is the destiny of mankind controlled by some transcendental entity or law? Is it like the hand of God hovering above? At least it is true that man has no control; even over his own will."
Guts outgrew Griffith as a person, his anger and hate finally began to subside and he wanted more from his life than just to survive and fight, and Griffith wasn't used to being the one who people outgrew, and it drove him to throw away everything he and the band of the hawk fought for. When guts left the hawks he did so with no anger or hatred or even regrets, he was so sure Griffith was stronger than this and that he would rise again, a testament to how strong of a leader he was to inspire that faith in guts of all people, and yet, he failed to see his dream through, not only that but also all the dreams of every member of the hawks who cast their hopes in with him. Theyd banked on him and BELIEVED in them so much that they'd break him out of prison and possibly become enemies of the kingdom they fought for, all for him. and how does he repay this loyalty and bravery from his friends? he trades their lives and mortal souls in for power. I think the end of berserk (in 20 years) wont be guts tearing Femto apart in bloody vengeance, but him and casca moving on with their lives, finding peace in each other, with guts looking back at femto with nothing but pity for the man he once knew now being this creature, and just as before, i think it WILL break Griffith, to know that someone else doesn't view him in any particular light. he could stand being hated and mocked, he could stand being surrounded by friends and allies who would die for him, but the one thing griffith could never stand were people ignoring him, treating him as nothing special. like a rock in the road Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk
guts did not "outgrow" griffith. he literally tells corkus and judeau about how dazzling griffith is right before he leaves. his whole reason for leaving was so he could become an equal so that griffith would consider him a friend (terms that griffith himself set).
@@theshelteredlife2 maybe "outgrew" was the wrong word to use for guts in the golden age, maybe a better phrase would be that he gained some perspective? or that his goals changed?
@@theshelteredlife2 in a way Guts did. For the first time Griffith was the one being past, he was the stone on the road. Of course he couldnt stand this especially from Guts who I think, while he didnt admit it, Griffith liked as something at least close to friend.
@@preator_vallum6377 griifith couldn't have been a "stone in the road" when the whole purpose of leaving was so griifith would be his friend. guts wanted to be good enough for griffith.
Every soldier in history has her doubts and whether or not they deserve to stay in a group like that. However, a swordsman has reached a level so high can never stay, he can never truly have what other men desire. It is hard to be a swordsman of such caliber that is because when you choose to pick up the sword and live by the sword you must do no less, you must die by the sword. Dying alone in your bed is a unworthy death.
Just face it you needed him as a sacrifice and you also needed him for the sake of your dream your alter ego destroyed your friendship with Guts forever are you happy now Griffith? I hope you are.
this couldve been anime of all time but they had to ruin it by adding rediculous 3d animations and lack of character in season 2 not to mention they took almost 20 years to make a season 2 all for it to fail
ELDRICH SALAZAR this 1997 adaptation was good enough to be a stand alone story. Even ending the story at the eclipse was good enough. Some stories end in tragedy. This adaptation is a shining gem of the 90s, do not conflate this with the 2016 garbage
as much as i like griffith slavery is wrong and besides guts is healthy now also hes been training 3yrs straight also hes fought more and hurt zodd a fukn manatador demon who gave guts his credit yet griffth was knocked out in 1 hit by zodd. griffith never had a chance gutz closed the genetics gap
I think you're right on some level but it is mainly Griffith's fault. Guts wanted nothing more then to have his own goal and be Griffithe true friend. Had Griffith not given that speech Guts woulfnt have left, shit he probably would've stayed till the day he died. So.. yeah its 99.999% Griffiths fault.
It was neither of their fault. Guts heard a conversation he wasn't supposed to hear and Griffith didn't know he was listening. It was literally the work of Causality!
@@pliskenx51mm83 No, it was Griffith's fault that he committed statutory rape on a princess that got him in trouble. Because he couldn't face the fact that Guts wanted to leave him. He brought all of this to himself.
@@GhostCell47 I was talking about before the eclipse. Everything he did as FEMTO is indeed, his fault. But how he got there was a series of circumstances that he wasn't aware of, he didn't realize that it was his conversation that made Guts leave. If Guts had never heard his conversation, Guts would have probably stayed and Griffith wouldn't have put himself in situations that got him captured and tortured leading to him calling on the God Hand. At least not in the way he did, he carried a Red Behelit and as Zod said, a day would come when he would use it. But if events happened differently would Griffith have sacrificed the Band of the Hawk like he did when that time came?
watching ripped anime on vlc media player in the early 2000s aesthetic
Should I add this song as background music?
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+ the uploader's swaggy Death Note pfp
I did the same thing except I watched berserk on an ibook g4 with vlc
OMEGALUL
can somebody tell me what episode and season this is. It says your going to be okay, you just stumbled over a stone in the road
*"I'm sure you'll overcome this. You'll walk again, soon."*
Well, that didn't work out so well!
Bruce Achterberg i think he would have had he not been cauht in bed with the kings daughter
@@gas467 lmao
He will never walk again... but he will fly.
Now they're all alone
That one didnt Age quite so well
"I'm sure you'll overcome this. You'll walk again - soon."
Guts had way too much faith.
I think everyone did. Honesty, I didn't see the Griffith mental meltdown coming until the episode where Guts & co rescue him.
You mean the moment he raped the kings daughter?
Seems to me the sex was consensual, but I think the mental and emotional meltdown was during his torture. These meltdowns manifested in what happened at the eclipse.
I would say that's the spark of the meltdown, I don't think he was as far gone as you claimed. Again, I don't consider what he did to be rape, it seemed consensual and being 16 in the cultural setting of Berserk doesn't mean she isn't old enough to consent. People take advantage of all kinds of things to have sex, but that doesn't mean they are rapists. Perhaps, but did he know the king was going to find out? I don't think you can argue that he did. You are running this train of thought on lots of assumptions about Griffith's intentions at the time which I'm not sure can be verified by the canon. I agree with you about his character flaws, but again I think you're assuming that Griffith somehow knew or intended things to turn out how they did which I think is wrong.
She is young and niave and Griffith used that to his advantage in order to bed her! she was never showed affection until Griffith and so was mesmerised and intrigued nothing more.
He knew what would happen if the king found out what he did with charlotte! was he expecting too be told by the king ''yeah its alright have sex with my daughter its no Biggy'' come on now.
Guts believed so much in Griffith, but was so oblivious to the fact that leaving him behind was the biggest wound he could ever inflict on him. Griffith's lost all reason the moment he says "If he will not be mine, his life is forfeit". It isn't love anymore at that point, but a sick obsession. In that moment, Guts' gentleness, admiration, and true loyalty shine for Griffith and his dream. But Griffith's evil and disorientation bloom as a result of an infatuation he couldn't healthily cope with.
I agree with most of what you said however calling Griffith's mindset at this point "evil" may be and with complete humility and respect may be a bit extreme. Now was it unhealthy ABSOLUTELY, lack of communication (to a strong degree) and misunderstanding each other's motives and motivation (to a similar degree) on both their parts caused this event to occur. While Griffith's choices after this and the consequences that followed were his alone this defeat would be a catalyst for everything that followed.
Truly one of the best mangas ever written.
No
Indeed
One of the best pieces of fiction even Imo
I dont know if this is not the best manga what is. I havent read too much, dont get me wrong. Can I have recommendations maybe?
Not just manga, one of the greatest fiction
With that old ass 90's vlc and L with sunglasses profile picture I thought I had went back to 2006 jesus christ
No problem. Happy to be a time machine to shittier time.
@@BecketTheHymnist Shittier? Nah, everything was so much simpler in those good ol' days.
@@FlowerTrollSan
BRO WAKE UP IT'S 2006
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@@BecketTheHymnist and the best uploader award goes to......
@@FlowerTrollSan it's the year I was born, lmao
You know the Berserk manga deserves to be an a museum of badassary.
One of the most Iconic moments for me and for Berserk, thank you Miura RIP.
I love how much characterization there is in the fight itself. Griffith fully understands Guts, and knows exactly what he's going to do. He makes a decision and follows through, even at the potential cost of Guts' life. And Guts just carries forward, winning through sheer, unrelenting force.
I think this scene (at the manga or anime) is the moment where everyone realizes that a story never has to be as an audience wants to, to be an amazing story
This scene reminds me of my life leaving the nest to become more self reliant you can have a master of something to teach you everything but at somepoint but you must leave in order to continue to make yourself stronger and become more self- reliant on your own. Your friends , family and fears will keep you back from your destiny and choosing your own path. Gutz was stronger and better than everyone there and it was pointless for him to be a general when he was his own army.
Absolutely agreed. But poor guy couldn't foresee the chain of events he would set into motion.
He just wanted to be considered an equal friend, not be under Griffiths thumb where he would never truly get the respect he felt he wanted. Besides that He has always been an introvert and now that it was all over it was time to move on and search for meaning
I wish Guts had at least told Griffith that he was leaving out of respect for him to be his equal because maybe Griffith would have taken his departure less harshly because I think Griffith thought Guts leaving was the opposite being a sign of dis-respect towards him. Nonetheless, Griffith was clearly was sore loser because of how he handled defeat for the first time and should have known that Guts was a better swordsmen than him because of what Guts had done since their first fight. (1) Guts was injured when they first fought, (2) Guts bulked up by like 50 lbs of pure muscle over those 3 years due his training and heavy sword, and (3) Guts had faced more legit opponents such as Zodd, General Boscone, and the 100 men he killed all by himself in one night.
I don't know if Griffith would have cared. He had an unhealthy relationship with Guts already. If Griffith was going to make Guts fight to leave at all, that would have more than likely applied for that too.
Joseph Harris well said
he shoudl have.
No, Grif was a narcissist and could never see anyone as his equal. He needs to control and dominate.
And 4. He parried against a 6 foot tall sword, dont know how parrying against a giant heavy sword was a good idea!
Griffith is like the higher-up at work who is a control freak. Everything is good until his authority is challenged, then hell breaks loose.
Hell quite literally
That's some yandere shit right there.
This and when rickert smacks griffith are easily my favorites moments from berserk
This is so sad. He only left because he wanted to find a dream so Guts could be his friend. But the results from this fight are what led to Griffith's downfall.
I forgot how much this show hurts me emotionally until now. 😭
Right? I'm convinced that Berserk is about trauma. How catastrophic it can hit, how hard it can be to overcome, and how good it feels to move past it.
“You’ll walk again soon”
No, but he’d fly.
"You're going to be alright, you've just stumbled over a stone in the road. It means nothing. Your goal lies far beyond this, doesn't it? I'm sure you'll overcome this. You'll walk again, soon."
This is where Femto was born. Breaking that sword broke the will of Griffith.
Femto was born the moment he allowed himself to get too attached to Guts. His attachment to Guts is the only thing that made him stray from his dream, which he points out to himself after being tortured in the dungeon. And since the event of them parting ways was inevitable, and since Griffith allowed himself to get too attached, he couldn’t cope when Guts left him. He already had problems processing his own emotions (as evidenced by his self-harm scene after sleeping with that pedophilic lord), so this absolutely broke him.
Femto was born when he received that behelit and was chosen to be the anti-christ. He thought he had ideals but his whole string of disasters was apart of the plan. To get him to open his weak heart then snatch what was left of his humanity so he would completely break and be reborn as his destiny foretold.
This was one of the biggest mistakes of both Guts and Griffith after this Griffith decided to satisfy his sexual appetite by going after a inbred princess.
"Farewell" like a fucking BOSS
And he looks at me...
And I look at him...
And he looks at mee...
And I look at hiim...
*And he looks at meee...*
*And I look at hiim...*
*AND HE LOOKS AT MEEEE*
*AND I LOOK AT HIIIIIIIM*
LMAO 🤣
I feel like if guts had been more upfront to griffith about what guts wanted im sure this would have ended a different way
griffith had and still has the same perception of guts and himself as corkus did, griffith would have mocked him with a "suit yourself" before having this fight play out just the same
Kinda off topic, but I hope to god Guts manages to brutally kill Griffith by the end of Beserk. I honestly shocks me that people can romanticize the bastard after everything he's done.
+lolrus555 what would you have done?
killa1711 What's that supposed to mean?
I'm saying you are judging Griffith far too harshly. I'magine being at the absolute top of the world, could even be the next king, peak physical condition only to have the entire world crumble around you. you can never move again or eat again without help on top of that you have your penis and balls cut off. now tell me if you saw the opportunity to get it all back would you take it? many people say no while not knowing what its like to truly have nothing left, these same people would be the first to do so. not saying it was not a bad thing, but every character including guts deserves what's coming to them. murdering a child in cold blood does not put one out of reach of recompense no matter how they atone for it. not to mention Griffith said from the very beginning that everyone who follows him only exists to help fulfill his dream. they all knew their life was on the line at every moment they fought for him and in the end he took all of them.
killa1711 I don't give a shit. Before the apocalypse HE FUCKING INITIATED, he was a condescending control freak that was willing to do whatever it took to achieve his dream. Then, he stabbed all the Hawks in the back, became a fucking demon, RAPED CASCA, and has been making Guts' life a living hell. I don't care about what happened to him in the past, or how Guts' departure, his castration, and torture drove him over the edge, that doesn't excuse the evil shit he's done ever since then. Interpret Griffith however you want, but in my eyes, he's a fucking monster that's past the point of redemption. If Beserk doesn't end with Guts killing him in the most painful way imaginable, I'm gonna be feeling seriously ripped off.
but you didn't answer the question. what would you have done?
By far the best fight of the entire series IMO.
The feels. Gets me every time.
Looking back at this scene I do feel bad for griffith because even tho he had that friend speech with charlotte I still think he cared about his men deep down subconsciously and was lying to himself so he wouldn't feel tied to his emotions while he was trying to strive for his ideal kingdom and guts was like the only closest thing he ever had to being a best friend and then right when their about to reach the top guts just leaves with no explanation..it's like he reacted the only way he knew how by trying to act dominate and make guts respect him through battle and make guts stay instead of trying to ask him why he was leaving..that's what's so realistic and human about this scene because both of their egos got in the way cause guts was being too stubborn to explain himself and griffith was reacting in an upset manner probably cause he thought guts was being a traitor by just leaving him and the hawks out of nowhere...miaru executed this scene perfectly
I think he was a possesive sociopath, one of my friend is a legit sociopath (not possesive tho) he does not like to lose in any way, shape or form
@@pedrohenriquesoutogueiros1449 He's a psychopath.
Griffith was a good guy then, yes he was a control freak and probably a toxic friend, but a friend nonetheless, at least to Guts. He just didn't realize how dependent he had become on Guts. I do empathize with his downward spiral after Guts leaves him. We all have friends who move outside your neighbourhood and we wish life would remain the same. But you don't sacrifice them to fricking demons.
@@teznarayanan my morals say that hes a bad guy
@@IAm-zo1bo no doubt on that
yea about that little stone in the road Guts... that shit turned out to be a fucking comet
I really wonder what it'd be like if there was an Alternate Universe where Guts never leaves and never hears Griffith's speech on a true friend needing to be an equal.
That fight was epic even though both only did one swing... great stuff
"you'll walk again, soon"
So that was a fucking lie
I remember when I watched anime and other animations on VLC, good old times before the internet when we copied our shows off of DVD's
Fun fact the animation studio behind the original berserk anime was the same studio behind the pokemon anime
on of the greatest works of art to ever be created
Imagine all of the ungodly turmoil that could have been avoided If Guts would have only killed this no good sun of a bitch right here.
ngl with the video player format i was expecting a berserk vaporwave mv
The oldscool feels
VLC player adding to that aesthetic vibe
When you realize all of it started because Guts overheard a conversation he wasn't supposed to hear :(
My fansub days of anime watching on realplayer, dowloaded from primative websites as admins worked earnestly to keep anime and site updates a daily living. We were a community of fans in the same chrysalis.
How I hope heaven will be this nostalgia reborn.
it's a shame they don't live in a world where restraining orders exist.
Marlon Da Silva, They don't work in real life.
Kane Smith Can you confirm?
Something around the lines of what Griffith did to guts and casca I bet has been done in real life.
@Marlon- yes. I can confirm that they don’t work. The psycho will always try to break the order.
Mad frissons. Amazing
Who knew that this single action, would spark.. THE Fuckery.
It’s the fact that Griffith drew all his self-worth not from his accomplishments but from his personal satisfaction with his abilities for the longest period he viewed himself the be all end all in every category that could exist, the best swordsman, the best horseman, the best tactician, yet suddenly the thing that got him so far wasn’t his anymore, the gap in skill between him and guts was so great that he couldn’t even predict correctly the strength of guts, that’s the moment Griffith started thinking to himself maybe he wasn’t worthy of any of this, maybe he didn’t achieve any of that, maybe it was all guts from the beginning and he was just the side character in the epicness of guts achievement which even though they might not be known to people, Griffith himself knows it and can’t stand it that maybe he isn’t the best anymore. The ultimate imposter syndrome in just a few panels.
Lol vlc with all windows effects set to minimum is very nostalgic
at that moment gut know he going to win, he hlod back to not kill griffit
“If HE will not be MINE, his life is FORFEIT.”
In the end, Guts like the Band of the Hawk, were just possessions for Griffith.
Like pets told what to do. He never viewed any of them as his true friends, he told the Princess this himself.
It wasn’t until he lost Guts that he possibly realized differently.
In the anime he broke the sable, but in the manga he didn't, he won griffith by strategy. The anime made it look like he is just brute, but actually he developed strategy and had better battle mind, he won him not because only of his strength, he won him because of the experience he gained in the battles.
It showed, in the anime, with the blade being broken, that Guts could have easily killed Griffith. However, Guts held back. That’s not being a brute, that’s being compassionate while showing how strong he really is.
I'm gonna rewatch this anime. I haven't bothered since my first watch back in 2012, I've read the manga and (regrettably) watched the 2016 show.
Guts :get bodied boi >:]
This is soulful
And this is the point that Casca began to realize she had fallen in love with Guts
Guts: Farewell
*Griffith did not, in fact, fare well*
What the heck is this being played on? I mean awesome scene but what is the outer border around the video?
Still better than the 2016 anime.
old VLC Media player
Old ass VLC media player. Pretty cool right?
@@mariokart8054 I suppose
I kinda like it real old school vibe
Music at 3:42?
Berserk OST - Gatsu
No it's 2:57
Guts is a Chad bro just walk away from two people he care about the most n still left them
Griffith fucked hisself over by going after the princess like he did so early i mean she already liked him and his army was already reknown before he had Guts with them granted he lost his ultimate badass but hell he fucked hisself over not guts
KarDean Wilks True, but he was never gonna be allowed to get with the princess, even after everything he's done for the kingdom, cause her father was a creep and wanted her for himself. At least now he's out of the way, plus Griffith has the princess and his own kingdom
Agreed.
This is a vibe
It's funny because when I initially did this the intention was to avoid the clip getting taken down from the mass copyright flags. Nowadays the whole series is here on RUclips from multiple channels.
This video was recorded in 2015 or 98?
Jesus Christ, what happens if they way Guts beats Griffith is by not feeding on his anger.
Makes me cry every damn time.
With the passing of Miura it's so much more tragic. I've never met him before, but his story had SO MUCH IMPACT on my life. still can't believe he's gone. =/
@@BecketTheHymnist me too
Haha I've never noticed this before but in the opening shot that pans out to Griffith his swords curve is pointed downards but in the close up his sword is in the opposite direction.
What’s the song at the end?
It's simply called "Guts"
ruclips.net/video/vZa0Yh6e7dw/видео.html
Bonus version:
ruclips.net/video/EJLNLWv-nmM/видео.html
@@BecketTheHymnist Thanks Beast!
Guts stopped playing around after the disrespect
RUclips's algorithm bring me back here
Griffith is basically the somewhat decent fighter with lots of fans and a cult following who vouch for him !
And Guts is that talented guy who will prove them wrong by changing their views.
A rock hitting a golden sculpture will leave quite a dent
But a rock hitting an silver plate will only scratch it
you're going to be alright......................god daaam
"It couldn't be any other way" - couldn't it though?
Not according the themes of Berserk.
"In this world, is the destiny of mankind controlled by some transcendental entity or law? Is it like the hand of God hovering above? At least it is true that man has no control; even over his own will."
Griffith falls to defeat against Guts. The rest of Berserk "pUt YoUr GrAsSeS oN! nOtHiNg WiLl Go WoNg!"
smh, the dex user failed to hit L2 in time.
Everything that happens after, none of it is Guts’ fault. So why does Griffith hate him so much? He’s really that petty
How far along are you in the story? Have you seen the whole 97 anime? Have you continued into the manga?
Is not that he hates him. He's obsessed with him, and he's angry at the fact that Guts wanted to move on from him.
Watching a video within a video. Vidception
Dude
This video player format. I haven't seen it since I was a little kid
The next time they meet... it won't be Griffith sword that breaks.
It means Guts sword will cut though Griffith.
Guts will die, but not before defeating Griffith.
Guts outgrew Griffith as a person, his anger and hate finally began to subside and he wanted more from his life than just to survive and fight, and Griffith wasn't used to being the one who people outgrew, and it drove him to throw away everything he and the band of the hawk fought for. When guts left the hawks he did so with no anger or hatred or even regrets, he was so sure Griffith was stronger than this and that he would rise again, a testament to how strong of a leader he was to inspire that faith in guts of all people, and yet, he failed to see his dream through, not only that but also all the dreams of every member of the hawks who cast their hopes in with him. Theyd banked on him and BELIEVED in them so much that they'd break him out of prison and possibly become enemies of the kingdom they fought for, all for him. and how does he repay this loyalty and bravery from his friends? he trades their lives and mortal souls in for power.
I think the end of berserk (in 20 years) wont be guts tearing Femto apart in bloody vengeance, but him and casca moving on with their lives, finding peace in each other, with guts looking back at femto with nothing but pity for the man he once knew now being this creature, and just as before, i think it WILL break Griffith, to know that someone else doesn't view him in any particular light. he could stand being hated and mocked, he could stand being surrounded by friends and allies who would die for him, but the one thing griffith could never stand were people ignoring him, treating him as nothing special. like a rock in the road
Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk
guts did not "outgrow" griffith. he literally tells corkus and judeau about how dazzling griffith is right before he leaves. his whole reason for leaving was so he could become an equal so that griffith would consider him a friend (terms that griffith himself set).
@@theshelteredlife2 maybe "outgrew" was the wrong word to use for guts in the golden age, maybe a better phrase would be that he gained some perspective? or that his goals changed?
@@theshelteredlife2 in a way Guts did. For the first time Griffith was the one being past, he was the stone on the road. Of course he couldnt stand this especially from Guts who I think, while he didnt admit it, Griffith liked as something at least close to friend.
@@preator_vallum6377 griifith couldn't have been a "stone in the road" when the whole purpose of leaving was so griifith would be his friend. guts wanted to be good enough for griffith.
@@theshelteredlife2 yeah I know that but I dont think Griffith did, so it seems like that sorta thing to him.
lol i thought this was a joke, why is it recorded like this ??!
Kinda trying to avoid getting the clip taken down tbh.
can someone tell me what episode and season this is
There's only one season of Berserk 97. It's episode 19 "Separation"
Every soldier in history has her doubts and whether or not they deserve to stay in a group like that. However, a swordsman has reached a level so high can never stay, he can never truly have what other men desire. It is hard to be a swordsman of such caliber that is because when you choose to pick up the sword and live by the sword you must do no less, you must die by the sword. Dying alone in your bed is a unworthy death.
3:38
I really need to catch up on the manga but I’m laZy
Past couple chapters are heating up. Supposedly a new one is coming out soon too.
*guts leaves*
Put your grasses on nothing will be wong.
Guts didn't put on any grasses on did he? If only...
Just face it you needed him as a sacrifice and you also needed him for the sake of your dream your alter ego destroyed your friendship with Guts forever are you happy now Griffith? I hope you are.
Well
In what manga volume is this fight?
It’s 8 or 9. Don’t remember exactly
The start of the end
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Sort of like grant vs phil
this couldve been anime of all time but they had to ruin it by adding rediculous 3d animations and lack of character in season 2 not to mention they took almost 20 years to make a season 2 all for it to fail
ELDRICH SALAZAR this 1997 adaptation was good enough to be a stand alone story. Even ending the story at the eclipse was good enough. Some stories end in tragedy. This adaptation is a shining gem of the 90s, do not conflate this with the 2016 garbage
Windows 1998
The torturer did nothing wrong!!!
as much as i like griffith slavery is wrong and besides guts is healthy now also hes been training 3yrs straight also hes fought more and hurt zodd a fukn manatador demon who gave guts his credit yet griffth was knocked out in 1 hit by zodd. griffith never had a chance gutz closed the genetics gap
Hmm
cascas lines dont translate well lol
Griffith did nothing wrong!!!
Spoiler: he doesn't overcome it 😂
It was also Guts fault for everything that happened. And deep down he knows this. The beast of darkness is his own mechanism of punishment.
I don't agree. Guts has trauma from other shit that is manifesting the beast of darkness. The events of the eclipse are 100% on Griffith.
I think you're right on some level but it is mainly Griffith's fault. Guts wanted nothing more then to have his own goal and be Griffithe true friend. Had Griffith not given that speech Guts woulfnt have left, shit he probably would've stayed till the day he died.
So.. yeah its 99.999% Griffiths fault.
It was neither of their fault. Guts heard a conversation he wasn't supposed to hear and Griffith didn't know he was listening. It was literally the work of Causality!
@@pliskenx51mm83 No, it was Griffith's fault that he committed statutory rape on a princess that got him in trouble. Because he couldn't face the fact that Guts wanted to leave him. He brought all of this to himself.
@@GhostCell47 I was talking about before the eclipse. Everything he did as FEMTO is indeed, his fault. But how he got there was a series of circumstances that he wasn't aware of, he didn't realize that it was his conversation that made Guts leave. If Guts had never heard his conversation, Guts would have probably stayed and Griffith wouldn't have put himself in situations that got him captured and tortured leading to him calling on the God Hand. At least not in the way he did, he carried a Red Behelit and as Zod said, a day would come when he would use it. But if events happened differently would Griffith have sacrificed the Band of the Hawk like he did when that time came?