Iain Dale Roasts Suella Braverman As She Defects To Reform UK?
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- Journalist and political commentator, Iain Dale, gave former Tory Home Secretary, Suella Braverman, a bit of a roasting as rumors grow that she will defect to Nigel Farage's Reform UK.
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If an MP defects they should trigger a bielection in that seat.
Nope, those who voted that person in have to accept the clown they voted for
You don’t vote for a party, you vote for a person.
@@Scanini What about a recall petition?
@@brianjohnson9173We only have those if the MP is suspended from parliament for (I think) thirty days or more.
Not really though. Not for a long time@@abbofun9022
As a labour voter I'd want Kemi Badenoch or Suella Braverman because they would be a disaster for the tories 🎉
Kemi Badenoch has been a member of the Conservative Party since 2005 and Suella became an MP in 2015 so not exactly newcomers to the Tories.
Nah it’s got to be that joker Victoria Atkins
@@Miclor54 Badenoch could pick a fight in an empty room. She was my Mother's MP and despite being asked for help with a particular matter, she did absolutely nothing. She has always been a completely useless MP, and an equally useless cabinet minster. She is arrogant, idiotic and throughly unhelpful. North Essex would vote donkey into Parliament if it wore a blue rosette.
As a reform voter I love it when starmer gave the foreign secretary job to lammy who has called everyone who voted for brexit a nazi, but more importantly he called Trump one as well. The only thing he could do better is give the treasury job to diane abbott. It does not really matter it will be a disaster with liebour in charge it always is.
@@MiltonMoJunction Where IS Farage? In America I presume, sucking up to the Orange Criminal. Just what the people of Clacton wanted from their MP.. Any idea when Farage is going to provide his accounts on his business, known as Reform UK Ltd in which he is the majority share holder? No? I didn't think so. Let's hope he gets suspended as soon as possble. We don't need Loony Tories in the House of Commons.
Let this party self-destruct as it is well deserved.
I’d rather have a moderate Conservative Party in opposition than a mad hard right reform party
@@jamiebee1231All the moderate Conservatives were purged by Boris Johnson in 2019. The rump is fighting with the Reform UK Party Limited for which can attract the most right-wing voters.
@@jamiebee1231true, but a LibDem opposition is better than either of those 🙂
Braverman is a disgraced politician who should not be in a political position in any party !!!
Braverman getting out of main stream politics and into the wilderness of Reform is a win win for everyone.
but she is in the wilderness now with the Tories, they are just a non-party right now. In Reform she will get more air time, more opportunities to spout her bile and there are 4 million reform voters out there all ready and willing to lap it all up, especially while Starmer is floundering around trying to get a handle on the country
Wilderness of Reform? I would rather be in the wilderness with less over governance than the socialist 15 minute cities.
Yes she going to loosing team .
You mean get out off the uni party swamp and join the true British patriots
I have a few friends who are long time Tory voters and they are all for the likes of Braverman. They have shifted very far to the right now. They see people like Sunak as actual socialists. Yes, I know...
I know an MP is allowed "by the rules" to move party but to be elected by one group of the public and then to swap party within a couple of weeks of the election would be such a despicable act.
Abject shame and shallow dishonour awaits her or anybody else who does this.
Summed her up perfectly !
Despicable, Reform and Braverman are synonomous.
I think she comes off as too power hungry to stand wirh Farage who is himself also an egomaniac. Those 2 personalities in one party isnt going to work.
Good point, but I doubt NF will turn down her joining reform.
It could work when one egomaniac is the majority shareholder and can boot the other out whenever they feel like it. Thinking about it Farage could capitalise on welcoming her to Reform and then when convenient capitalise on kicking her out saying that her extremism doesn't represent Reform's "values".
Two Rabid dogs fighting over a meatless bone.
I agree, but put them together and they might just blow the Reform Party up.
Let Braverman and Farage join in Harmony in Deform. I think it’s a wonderful idea and it’ll be great for the Deform Party
Too toxic for the Tories will Reform be toxic enough?
She brown and racist they will love her
Feel like she probably too toxic for Reform LMAO
Oh ,you beat me too it 🤭👍
I’m sure she’ll infect them to the toxic standards she requires .
Let’s be honest there’s no limit to the level of ignorance, stupidity and wretched, vomit inducing ‘personality’ of the people in that party.
This just in: her application has been rejected. The reason given was that she was not nasty enough.
She isnt white enough for reform UK.
but?
@Turnipstalkreform UK chairman is of indian-subcontinent heritage.
Wrong colour ,
Habib didn't he get the boot?@Evemeister12
Cruella is far too toxic and far right for Reform😂😂😂
Nah man she's perfect!!!
@@jamiecole4393 Ok Himmler.
No, but she's just a little too far brown.
Wrong colour too
Reform doesn't like her tone - her skin tone.
It's not a surprise.
Dale is not to be trusted either.
Is he dodgy?
@@motorcyclemadness6006 look at his attempt to become an MP recently, of course he is
@@JohnClark-ew8dh is he doing that in a dodgy fashion?
How is that ‘dodgy’ and how is that relevant to SB’s possible intentions?
Simply being a conservative doesn’t make you “dodgy” - he just has different opinions to you
Dale did stand as a tory candidate in 2019. He literally stood on the "stop the boats" ticket. Its way too late to pretend to have a soul.
No he didn’t 😂
@@bmiddleton1770 Dale is an absolute clown. As of Braverman..pleas make her the Tory leader🙏🏽
@@bmiddleton1770 Yep. Had to step down for things he said about the constituency.
@@badgersgetabadname that was this year and every party wanted to stop the boats
@@bmiddleton1770 You voted tory in 2019?
Braverman is a Brexit headbanger.
Ian Dale: too toxic for the tories himself ...
Said the man who slagged off his area he was standing in
snakes in a sack now.
If she defects then she has to be recalled and call for a by-election because she was voted in as a Tories not Reform.
Sadly, that's not how it works.
@@glennaustin37 the rules should be changed that within the first 2 years (or, parliamentary cycles?) following a general election, there changing parties should trigger a by-election
That would be a good piece of legislation. @@alexharrison2743
@@alexharrison2743 Yes 100% agreed.
Braverman wants to be a Reform grifter, typical muppet.
She needs something now her bookings on the American grifter circuit have petered out.
Is she really that convinced that there voters will not see her as nothing other than an immigrant lol
All immigrants are not the same.
No, loads are white @@SalvageMasterEssex
She is that deluded.
@SalvageMasterEssex in the eyes of xenophobes, an immigrant is any person who is black or brown or who speaks a language that is not English in public
She is deluded. Reform voters could never accept her, that's not how racism works.
Good afternoon Max and all here. Nothing from Suella will surprise me.
Iain Dale is clinging to the idea of what the conservative party used to be.
At least it is on brand to cling to ancient history for a conservative.
Gold 🥇 medal of nastiness. Opportunistic
And still Dale and the rest of them would have told you to vote Conservative - now look at them
If we had PR, the Tories could split into the One Nations and the Nutters 🤔
If she defects Reform UK Party Ltd will have 6 MPs so they may need a Deputy Chief Whip 😂😂
If Cruella takes 20 MP’s with her to Reform and 20 sensible Tories defect to the Liberal Democrat Party the latter will have more MP’s than the Tories and become the official opposition!!😂😂
When all is said and done, Anderson is only the company gofer.
@@grahamfigg5817. 20 MP ? That will never happen. She will be the only one going to reform , and after the next election, she will probably lose her sit . And her legacy confine to history.
But would Nigel see her as a rival for the leadership and/or getting more attention than him?
@@russellbaston974No democracy in Reform Co Ltd, Farage owns the Company. No voting rights so no rivals to unseat him.
I guess Trash could also join Reform. With Anne Widdecombe we have the Terrible Trio of Suella, Trash and Widdecombe 🤣🤣🤣
They deserve her 😂😂😂
The problem with braverman her timing was out by 74years .🤮
What's crazy about Braverman is she doesn't seem to realise DEFORM types will never accept her as a Brit. What a shame, I was looking forward to her being leader and ensuring the Tories are in the abyss for generations
I do not think Reform MPs will like her and not being male, white and coming from a Buddhist extreme wing or even cult (according to a lot of people who write books on cults) will cause her issues.
But the question is will there be a Conservative Party left becuse they not getting any donations in (apparently that is why a lot of MPs want to move fast on the new leader) they took out a £41 million load against CCHQ just 6 months the election and they dropped so much money with SHORTs and other government money
They like people who betray their migrant background.
@Edward-ed1nu That made me chuckle. There I was, looking for those typos. 😂
It was great to see them get their just desserts on 4 July. But remember that just like their last conference support for them disappeared. From Cameron to Sunak they were just awful with two truly atrocious PMs in between.
What would she do at Reform U.K., the photocopying? 😂
Make the tea? Two sugars, luv.
Ian Dale is also a total muppet!
He may be, but on this point, he is 100% right.
It's funny watching these children fight amongst each other now that they are no longer in government.
They are embarrassing
If she stands for leadership and loses I think she will join reform and just shout utter bullshit from the sidelines for 5 years
An mp changing parties is NOT what the voters voted for. This should automatically require another vote to be cast for the relevant district.
She’s right-wing enough for Reform, but she’s possibly even less of a team player than Farridge. I can’t see them accepting her.
My gut says she won't go to Reform for the simple reason, she wants to be a leader and that is never going to happen while Nigel is there
Frankly, this is what the Tory party needs if it is ever to become relevant again. The headbangers need to defect or leave. And the local Conservatives need to find some sane candidates from among themselves. I am not expecting that to happen any time soon, though.
The further Cruella is from the levers of power the better as far as I’m concerned. Ideally Reform will make the Tories bleed out as much as possible and keep them from darkening the corridors of power for at least a decade while only having a handful of seats themselves. Let Reform be a loud, noisy minority with zero power that in reality, help keep Labour in Government for the foreseeable future.
Reform need to be destroyed if the Tories want the keys to No. 10. Reform is a convenient sink-hole for right wingers.
If she stands, she will have a chance. Don't underestimate how crazy the tory members are...
It tells me they are as nasty as she is.
If the members had a free vote she would be in with a chance but the members only get to vote on the candidates the MP's select and Braverman has pissed off most of the remaining Tory MP's.
EVERY SINGLE TORY IS LIVING IN CLOUD COOKOO LAND.
She has said that she does not intend to do so, but she may have understood that she has blown her own chance of any leadership position with the Conservatives.
VOTE Cruella for tory leader, and we can all clap, as they finally bite the dust.
Bizarre that she would join people who hate her and would deport her to Rwanda or worse.
That's just not the case. It's the mindset, not the colour of skin or origin of the person. Look at the standing ovation Zia (a muslim) had at the Reform convention.
There is no accounting for the convoluted insanity that is the far right mind.
@@gdfggggg Yeah you keep dreaming fascist.
@@gdfggggg I know and we know that Reform voters do not like Muslims, at all. Even far right muslim traitors...whom betray their own kind.
@@gdfggggg All useful until they are not.
Hopefully when she goes all those supporters will go along as well.
Hades?
I think a lot of the Conservatives members should leave and go to reform then
This is brilliant...ex tories going to reform and therefore it tories all over again..they're finished😂
Do the members really not like tuggenhat? Atleast he was a serving soldier. Dident that used to count for somehting amongst the 'patriots' of the tories?
It’s pretty rich coming from Dale who was going stand at Tunbridge Wells until he trashed Tunbridge Wells 😅😂😅😂
Let’s all chip in and give her a one way ticket to reform.
Credit where it's due Bravo Ian Dale 👍
God no
I hope she stays and that the tory members choose her as leader. Then the tories will lose the next election as well. The majority of reasonable people see her for what she really is and so they will not vote for her.
Part of me would love to see her take the tory party into oblivion but the reality is it would be so awful that Conservative MPs have to make sure it can never happen.
Unless you're voting for an independent, you're more than likely voting for the party, not the individual candidate.
Defections should trigger an automatic by-election, then we can see if the constituents want the same candidate in a different party, or someone else.
Exactly..in the UK we vote for the party, not the person...nb we're not the USA!!! Yet
Serious people ??? Those members will never vote for them.
Anyone remember when she was called Suella Fernandez.
Isn't she already a reform member ? All she's waiting for is the clown too return from usa, so he can rubber stamp it. Well thats what i was told by my reform voting friend down the pub.
Is it a weatherspoons?😂😂😂
@alanpage3973 What's so funny about weatherspoons, if you don't mind me asking??
Braverman is the type of person who would deport her own parents.
She should, Tories have been a disgrace
I have Braverman fatigue. Never hearing about her again would still be too soon.
The question 'can I win?' Pretty much rules out anyone who isn't a rabid right winger.
Reform Uk is the best place for her!
If she is a conservative she'd have left by now. Iain Dale is a wet liberal.
Did he get upset with Suella since she ramped up her homophobic rhetoric?
She defeats, she takes some of the A hole members follow her.
Ian dale couldn't roast a potato!!
Cranks being the operative word here !!
Nooo! She still have so much destruction to do in a party.
Dale would have been out of job and in prison for his acts. And yet here is is..
*LEADERS* is exactly our problem. The last thing humanity needs are leaders. Look where having leaders has brought us. I rest my case
There isn't anyone who could make a suitable leader.
This in fighting plaguing the Tories will show us the true allegiance of the sunmailexpressegraph owners.
She should stand down and have another by-election in her seat
Reform and Tories should dissappear
Dale is one of the most self-satisfied people on TV.
Dale is not a Conservative, he should be in the Libdums. Didn't he try to stand as a conservative MP but had to step down when it came to light his comments on the constituency.
By your title I thought she had already gone
I thought the same. A very misleading title, it reads like a statement then gets a useless question mark. Odd.
The tories are set for a long period in opposition and they are struggling to find a coherent identity. Many of the seats they lost to the libdems will be very difficult to get back and lot's of the people who voted reform were just pisses off with what they thought Labour was, but as time goes on and Labour deal with the dysfunction the tories left behind, many of those reform votes will return to Labour. Especially if a coherent response to immigration is put in place. And if reform party members keep showing their own interests are financial and not really about actually doing anything meaningful.
You should be in the house well said sir
@@elky1883 thanks 😊 🤣
Absolutely agree.
Nothing better than seeing the tories shrink further, but If they seriously want to start the process of turning it around, lurching further to the right won't be the answer. Labour's success in large part because they have moved back to the centre.
@glennaustin37 culture wars and big personalities can win power, but eventually, the lack of genuine plans and competence gets found out. And inevitably, this leads to the grown ups getting back into power. I wish we could end this cycle, but unfortunately, humans are easily bored and the right wingers will fund a new personality to get behind with grand words and the sheep will follow. But for now, we have a chance to fix the mess and I'm grateful for that.
@@geofthompson3844 perhaps people have wised up after the BoJo fiasco? We can only hope.
Braverman is an intelligence plant. No matter what she will be back.
Useless Sky. Useless Dale. Useless Braverman.
If she didn't speak so badly of the lgbt community, Iain would be quiet about it. Only when he's directly affected or offended, he speaks up. Check out what he said about striking train workers when he had a leg injury and needed assistance at train stations, vs what he said before.
This member question has bubbled along for a while. A few years ago a number of UKIP people took a decision to take over the local parties. It seems to have worked
When the tory party truly accepts the damage of Brexit it may well start to win again. How long that will be ???
Didn’t the host ask if Labour if they would apologize to Liz truss?
It's alright , you can call her on James O' Brien's show this week . Should be good craic .
She is so stupid and has no idea she is being set up Look forward to the entertainment on Tuesday Can't wait
Fascist number 6.
Braverman like all Tories are abhorrent and listening to Dale who wanted to be a Tory MP but stood down just before the GE for saying he hates the constituency he was standing in is hilarious
Goodness knows why she is even an MP
I can't imagine the type of people who would think she was deserving of their vote.
She's such an angry, bitter and obviously unhappy woman.
Reform could be the spiritual home for Sewer Ella.
The real question is whether the Conservative party will split into 2 parties by Christmas. And, if that were to happen, it would raise some interesting constitutional questions. For instance, who would the official opposition be.
The 2nd largest party becomes the opposition, which could well be the Lib Dems, if the Tories split into new successor parties, unless one of those successors had more MPs than the Lib Dems currently do.
Why would it split? What would be the difference between a much further right-wing tory faction and Reform? Surely those of that persuasion would just bail out to Reform if the tories elect a centrist leader?
Hope it's the end of the Tories" they will need to regroup as a centre" party let the right wing nutters join reform ltd. I would think labour if they get most things right will be in power for many years now that would be nice mind the gap" reform ltd voters 174 majority 😂
Farage will be worried to have such a power hungry in the same team
I dont think she will defect to Reform.
If she thought Reform had a chance at power she would be off like a shot. Assuming she want's a long career in politics the rational approach would be to remain with the Conservatives and spend the next five years lobbying to build a support base amongst the Parliamentary party in the hope of becoming the leader after next. Of course that would be rational and we are talking about Cruella.
Even Reform UK Ltd have their standards to consider.
Not exactly a surprise if she chooses to join Reform. I had thought she would as soon as she realised she wasn't as loved as she believed amongst Tories. If she's vying for power she won't have a chance against Farage. Their cult leader.
He is a great example isn't he, he was standing for a seat and then had to pull out after saying he didn't like the people who lived there. The last person who should give advice to any politician.
Pooella is not a brave woman
The Tories and Reform will end up merging to concentrate the conservative vote on one party.
The idea that what is left of the Conservative party can be united by ANYONE is for the birds. Time and time again we have been told that the Conservatives are "broad church" ... what we see under the Conservative banner today isn't a single party broad church, the extremes of views are so diverse there isn't hope in hell's chance of them uniting. There are some of the remaining Conservative MP's who have their finger on the pulse. The problem is that the majority of car carrying Conservative members are detached from reality and any choice made by them will be a route to oblivion, continuing the direction of the dreadful choice they made for Truss.
Wrong. They will be back. Labour always crack and behave like liberals.
Hi Gays I think it's time to support Reform UK as a bit of a tool I think it's time that I Maxi should start to unite all of the UK
Ian Dale has no shame. His recent political car crash renders him a laughing stock and a discredited broadcaster. Why give him the oxygen of publicity? Who's next, Ann Widecombe ?