That issue has been almost mind blowing to me. With both crews already there, you would think they would work some sort of deal out. It's basically free advertising, maybe not of their production, but of the on track product. Especially towards casual fans that may have picked one over the other and don't know what they're missing on the other side.
Blame the awful dirt and track management at a large number of Texas tracks. The same reason XR no longer works with SMI, because they refused to work with Texas until they put new dirt in. When Texas can provide a Texas worthy dirt track you’ll see it.
We’ll see how the WoO does here next weekend when the late models visit Boothill Speedway (LA) and Rocket Raceway Park (TX). Both tracks host the Comp Cams series and always put on exciting shows. BP32 races at Boothill early this year with the Comp series and dominated, so should be a good showing for him there again.
Many years back, I remember hearing chatter about what it would take for a promoter out west (specifically at USA Raceway in Tucson, Az) to put on an event with one of the “National” touring SLM series. He had it down to how many people would have to come and how much each would have to spend on concessions to make it work. He said it would be a huge gamble. There’s never been a lot of SLM fans out west. (Just us diehards!) *Edit: Because of Flo Racing, it’s my belief SLM is becoming more popular. I have friends that never went to (or would think about going to) a SLM race and now are big fans of the class, because of Flo.
as someone that grew up watching late models at the previously shut down Santa Maria Speedway, i’d love to see them come out west but I agree with everything you said. I don’t know if they would get enough support/turn out simply do to it not being as popular as it once was back year. sprints cars/midgets/stock cars/dwarfs seem to be the majority
Perris Auto Speedway would be a great late model track but the guys that run the place don’t like streaming or series that support streaming. Sad because the track is really cool
I’d love to see them head to the northeast. Lots of good tracks in TMac country. With the advent of Flo I think they could draw a crowd. I’d like to see one of the series jump out of their comfort zone. Perhaps super dirt week as the fans would be there.
Late models in California pretty much died during the Great Recession, and the demise of Chris Kearns’ Western All Stars series.. there would be 60 late models at Bakersfield for a W.A.S. show in ‘07 with the support of some Oregon and Arizona racers.. those were awesome times…
The west coast is more than just California, where LM's are basically dead at least weekly. In Oregon we have several tracks that run LM's on a regular basis, Willamette, Cottage Grove, Southern Oregon, Coos Bay & Madras all have regular programs. The Coors Light I-5 series is making a come back as a traveling series as well. It would be cool to see a big national tour but I'd rather get our local counts up & then the regional traveling series more robust.
I race a sport mod, ran 10 races last year and have been racing every weekend this year, I raced a big race in Yreka, ca to see how I stack up to some of the best, didn't fair well, but when I got back to my local tracks it stepped my game up from being a 3rd or 4th place car to contending for wins week in and weeknout
Willamette Speedway used to have a huge late model draw in the 2000s when the Arnold's owned it. My home track in Cottage Grove seems to struggle to get a full field when they have late models.
Say, 2000 you have to put they were board cars not true late models. So when the board cars left so did half the field. Walters ran the open motor tour and Willamette didn't like it. Then Walters went to the crate motors and teams didn't like that. Also a lot of drivers got older and stopped running.
I think the travel from Vado to California is much further to tow than some think. Vado to Perris is over 725 miles. Vado to Bakersfield is just under 900 miles. Vado to Hanford, Ca is just under a 1,000 miles.
First off California doesn't have very many Late Models left . Modifieds took over 30 year's ago and last track that ran late Models stopped in the ast 2 year's in northern California. I worked on late Models for 15 year's before Modifieds came along because they were cheaper than a late model lots of guys ran them instead.
There used to be a bunch of tracks running late models out here. Willamette Speedway would draw the biggest weekly car counts of any track in the country in the 90’s, and California was a real hot bed as well. But no more, as only a few tracks run late models with very small car counts the norm. So Lucas or WoO coming out west is a complete non-starter.
It doesn’t matter to me personally since I currently live in the south. However, I’d like to see LM fans out west actually get what they could call a home race. Furthermore, there’s got to be a way to research this and find determine if it could work. It’s quite possibly an untapped fan base. I think we should ask the same question regarding Texas. Great show!
They used to be a late model tour low count car 10 to 12 cars that would go between Bakersfield and San Maria Speedway up to about 2012 2013 or so and the fans loved them. There’s definitely fans over here. I’m pretty much a sprint car guy, but when I saw the late models at Santa Maria Speedway I was impressed. I’m definitely a fan and I would go in a heartbeat.
I would like to see Lucas Oil or WoO go further east than Port Royal. I'm kind of in the middle of Grandview, New Egypt & Bridgeport Speedways. I would try to get to all those speedways if they did a weekend here.
Hey Justin, love your topics the last couple of shows. That young sprint driver is really exciting! I really like new talent coming here to race. Hope he comes back next season. This helps when other young drivers jump to other series to race.
This is what I was thinking. Pair the sprints and late models together to draw a bigger crowd. Would probably have to be a multi day show to make the money math work. I’d like to see them give it a try.
I can confirm that if an area or track has a preference to a certain type of car, most of the people won't come out and support a event that isn't what their familiar with. Take Fairbury Speedway for example. The community is mostly late model and modified fans. When the world of outlaws tried to bring sprint cars to the track, the fans just did not show up. Even with some good racing put on, they could never bring in a halfway decent crowd. I know that the races were in the middle of the week but Jacksonville Speedway doesn't seem to have that issue. When the world of outlaws went their this year for a Wednesday show, they had their largest crowd in the history of the track.
San Diego here.. I would love to see a big series make it out west. The super stocks at Perris are cool but do not quite scratch the itch. I've recently realized that the best bet is plan a vacation to Eldora..
Great show as always! I think before a national tour goes west, some kind of regional tour needs to be in place. Would be interesting to see if a 15-20 race west coast regional tour could be successful, opening way for a national tour with an established fan and car base
The Silver Dollar Speedway in Chico CA will become a Mecca for late model racing if you choose to come. I saw many Hunt The Front T-Shirts when the High limit series was in Chico.
So here’s a question for you. Not sure whether it was DIRTCAR or STSS, but I know one of them had a Deep South swing for the Northeastern modifieds for a season or two that went to Louisiana. It started the week after the “World Finals” in Charlotte. My question is do you have any idea how successful that was as far as spectator turnout? I’m from just of you in NC, and I follow those series via Mandee Pauch’s Dirt Track Untold channel, but I’m sure I’m a minority being in SLM country! At 64, I’ve been around Carolina’s racing since 1970, and I remember a time when sprint cars, midgets etc. were nowhere to be seen. Now they have a pretty big presence in the area. I guess anything’s possible, but SLM’s & Cali sounds like a long shot!
The only potential California track I could see would be Bakersfield. Potential there with IMCA Mods running as a support class and if they're running their own special as well, there would be potential there. As you said though, a lot of methodical planning would need to be down but damn it would be cool to see supers at that track.
When the wild wish shootout was in Arizona, it was sold out crowds all the time. I think there is potential it’s just too cold in New Mexico that time of year.
It would be nice to get late models, but we barely get sprint car action. Perris is always a question mark even for sprints with issues from the government.
Santa Maria in California race track would be a good one for late Models, Bakersfield and if Calistoga ever open back up . Calistoga was a blast with the late model and Modifieds. Sprint Car's was the best shows there.
No Cars currently, there is a few tracks with limited LM, but no supers on the west coast, Maybe 1 or 2 tracks in OR, All the Late models are gone in CA.
Late models will be gone everywhere else in a few years Need to go to Crate 525 super late everywhere to keep them around for so local or regional racing.
There used to be a west coast series, think based around Bakersfield and Santa Maria mainly. I'd love for that to make a come back, but the west coast is all about sprints and IMCA mods.
@@IGOTITONTAPE19 it would thrive but people think paying $1,500 to $2,000 is “good money” for a series when it’s stupid expensive to run a late model. That’s why the class died in California and is dying in Oregon. Also none in Washington but they have some nice tracks late models would be bad ass at
It's tough and rare to get a 410 sprint race in Georgia. And for most sprint teams, that is a lot shorter of a drive than late model teams going to California.
South Dakota (Husets area) is such a sprint car hot area, we just never got Late Model races EVER! Until 3 years ago. There were more fans this year for the finals of the Silver Dollar Nationals then last year. It's getting bigger just takes a little time. --After watching the World 100 were "stick men" were not allowed, what are the odds/chances that Late Model racing goes to that, The racing was so much better, IMO
The furthest West I've ever watched a Late Model race has been at Reno/Fernley Speedway and that was at least 15 years ago. I think it was a West Coast touring series that no longer exists.
I'm about 1200 miles from Vado (between Chico & Placerville). I'd still like to make the trip down there to the Wild West Shootout. Placerville has some limited late models ... I've not seen them run, but it looks like they typically get around 10-12 cars.
it sucks that SUper Late models and USAC Sprint cars dont run in the West but theres no local scene so it makes sense why they cant/dont, especially late models
@@RegularJoes that series is a bit of a joke sorry. it also doesnt go north of like Santa Maria. its basically a southern CA and Arizona series. half their season is at Perris lol. and no streaming so nobody even knows about it
It's the cost of travel What BASS MASTERS said they quite coming but before they quite the made it where use California guy couldn't fish agents them . Had to be on tour with them to fish. Look at 91 Papage was from California racing Woo. Look at Dodson 74 he has to race back east just to run a late model. Closest late model Race is Las Vegas XR series. We ran one of the last races in California. Tracks and promoters just don't want to pay out the bucks like they do for Sprint Cars out here.
I understand not going to CA. Hell,I don’t even wanna go there. But,what I can’t understand,why not race in TX? Yes, WoOLMs have their one event in a couple weeks, but that’s it. Nothin else…
No need to go to California,,,from Vado head to Las Vegas motor speedway ,super fast half mile dirt track and a stadium feel.Many dirt track fans in Nevada it would also draw the fans from Cali,Utah and a few others, what a great vacation!
Jock is a great driver and all round nice guy to jump in a car hes only raced a couple of times with new crew guys on a track hes never ran in a different country and finish 8th against the best sprintcar drivers great effort i would say.....
Late model racing is just a southern thing, in the north east it's a side show no one stays to watch, it is boring to watch kinda like watching paint dry.
There was a guy in the American Sprint Car Series got banned for entire year and fined $5,000 at Arrowhead Speedway one guy slammed into a side by side and almost hit the photographer at the racetrack
What about traveling to NY , they stop going there also NDRA use to race at the Wheels and believe tracks like Utica Rome , Fulton and maybe Brewerton would be good choices
I lived your example of LM at Hussets in SD. 5-6 hour drive so I had to hit the road not knowing exactly who would show up….well much to my dismay it was Lucas regulars only(I expect some WoO guys)so end up being less than half the numbers from I-80. Happen to strike up a conversation walking in with the track chaplain(nice guy)who was asking me very specific interesting questions about LM(I had no idea this is 100% Sprint car territory). It was very obvious based on his questions was this is absolutely the wrong track for this event. Then I walk in…first reaction is Impressive facility but then I see the track and the high earthen berm on the bottom….oh no….do the track prep guys know LM have a low nose on the ground and often run the very bottom of the track?? How does the track not realize LM don’t ride the berm like an open wheel Sprint car. Well the feature sucked because it was a one groove track bc the low line was completely taken alway bc the nose of the car would plow the berm and upset the car. Bring the Silver Dollar to I-70 pretty please.
I grew up in TMAC country and now live in California.. I’d love to see more than just winged sprint cars out here 🙄… Bakersfield is only 45 minutes from me but the 410’s aren’t worth the drive
You should check out the West coast sport compacts. We aren't late models or sprint cars but we put on great 3 wide action all through the field with lots of action
The best thing about this years 4 crown is we get to see the whole show on Flo. In the past Dirtvision , and Flo showed only their own divisions.
That issue has been almost mind blowing to me. With both crews already there, you would think they would work some sort of deal out. It's basically free advertising, maybe not of their production, but of the on track product. Especially towards casual fans that may have picked one over the other and don't know what they're missing on the other side.
So true. Thought my going back and forth with both apps was stupid human behavior for the higher ups at flo n dirt.
And, frustrating too!
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I'm more surprised at the lack of much dirt late model racing in Texas than California. Texas seems like a natural fit.
Blame the awful dirt and track management at a large number of Texas tracks. The same reason XR no longer works with SMI, because they refused to work with Texas until they put new dirt in. When Texas can provide a Texas worthy dirt track you’ll see it.
We’ll see how the WoO does here next weekend when the late models visit Boothill Speedway (LA) and Rocket Raceway Park (TX). Both tracks host the Comp Cams series and always put on exciting shows. BP32 races at Boothill early this year with the Comp series and dominated, so should be a good showing for him there again.
Many years back, I remember hearing chatter about what it would take for a promoter out west (specifically at USA Raceway in Tucson, Az) to put on an event with one of the “National” touring SLM series. He had it down to how many people would have to come and how much each would have to spend on concessions to make it work. He said it would be a huge gamble. There’s never been a lot of SLM fans out west. (Just us diehards!)
*Edit: Because of Flo Racing, it’s my belief SLM is becoming more popular. I have friends that never went to (or would think about going to) a SLM race and now are big fans of the class, because of Flo.
as someone that grew up watching late models at the previously shut down Santa Maria Speedway, i’d love to see them come out west but I agree with everything you said. I don’t know if they would get enough support/turn out simply do to it not being as popular as it once was back year. sprints cars/midgets/stock cars/dwarfs seem to be the majority
Perris Auto Speedway would be a great late model track but the guys that run the place don’t like streaming or series that support streaming. Sad because the track is really cool
Perris and the no streaming policy has really hurt Non Wing Sprintcar racing on the West Coast…
I chose to no longer support Perris.
Such a great facility. Track would be great for SLM. I'm also pretty sure if Lucas Oil came calling they would revise their policy..
I’d love to see them head to the northeast. Lots of good tracks in TMac country. With the advent of Flo I think they could draw a crowd. I’d like to see one of the series jump out of their comfort zone. Perhaps super dirt week as the fans would be there.
Late models in California pretty much died during the Great Recession, and the demise of Chris Kearns’ Western All Stars series.. there would be 60 late models at Bakersfield for a W.A.S. show in ‘07 with the support of some Oregon and Arizona racers.. those were awesome times…
The west coast is more than just California, where LM's are basically dead at least weekly. In Oregon we have several tracks that run LM's on a regular basis, Willamette, Cottage Grove, Southern Oregon, Coos Bay & Madras all have regular programs. The Coors Light I-5 series is making a come back as a traveling series as well. It would be cool to see a big national tour but I'd rather get our local counts up & then the regional traveling series more robust.
We used to have a bad ass late model series in California but it got too expensive. Kellen Chadwick, Bobby Hogge, and a few others dominated
I race a sport mod, ran 10 races last year and have been racing every weekend this year, I raced a big race in Yreka, ca to see how I stack up to some of the best, didn't fair well, but when I got back to my local tracks it stepped my game up from being a 3rd or 4th place car to contending for wins week in and weeknout
Willamette Speedway used to have a huge late model draw in the 2000s when the Arnold's owned it. My home track in Cottage Grove seems to struggle to get a full field when they have late models.
Willamette still averages 15-20 a week but they're the last track to really get fields of that size
@@stevenblakesley it's been years since I've been there. I'm glad they're still pulling a decent car count.
Say, 2000 you have to put they were board cars not true late models. So when the board cars left so did half the field.
Walters ran the open motor tour and Willamette didn't like it. Then Walters went to the crate motors and teams didn't like that.
Also a lot of drivers got older and stopped running.
I think the travel from Vado to California is much further to tow than some think.
Vado to Perris is over 725 miles.
Vado to Bakersfield is just under 900 miles.
Vado to Hanford, Ca is just under a 1,000 miles.
That would be like the east coast big block modifieds heading out west.
First off California doesn't have very many Late Models left . Modifieds took over 30 year's ago and last track that ran late Models stopped in the ast 2 year's in northern California. I worked on late Models for 15 year's before Modifieds came along because they were cheaper than a late model lots of guys ran them instead.
There used to be a bunch of tracks running late models out here. Willamette Speedway would draw the biggest weekly car counts of any track in the country in the 90’s, and California was a real hot bed as well. But no more, as only a few tracks run late models with very small car counts the norm. So Lucas or WoO coming out west is a complete non-starter.
Race car drivers drive race cars
Your RTJ take is spot on
It doesn’t matter to me personally since I currently live in the south. However, I’d like to see LM fans out west actually get what they could call a home race. Furthermore, there’s got to be a way to research this and find determine if it could work. It’s quite possibly an untapped fan base. I think we should ask the same question regarding Texas. Great show!
They used to be a late model tour low count car 10 to 12 cars that would go between Bakersfield and San Maria Speedway up to about 2012 2013 or so and the fans loved them. There’s definitely fans over here. I’m pretty much a sprint car guy, but when I saw the late models at Santa Maria Speedway I was impressed. I’m definitely a fan and I would go in a heartbeat.
I would like to see Lucas Oil or WoO go further east than Port Royal. I'm kind of in the middle of Grandview, New Egypt & Bridgeport Speedways. I would try to get to all those speedways if they did a weekend here.
they ran Georgetown Speedway in DE last year and this year I hope you came to see them!
@wyattcummings7241 I thought about that show, but that's about a 3 and a half hour ride, and I believe that was a mid week show.
@@glennplesnarski4551 Oh yeah, I think it was a Thursday I forgot.
I enjoyed listening to this one and your take on LM racing in California. Keep up the good work and come see us in Wissota country someday!
Hey Justin, love your topics the last couple of shows. That young sprint driver is really exciting! I really like new talent coming here to race. Hope he comes back next season. This helps when other young drivers jump to other series to race.
California isn't late model country.
They go to Arizona every January
Not in a couple of years since Arizona Speedway shut down. They do go to Vado in New Mexico every January.
I think a potential duel purpose World of Outlaws event would be the best move for a west coast race, not in the snowbird time though.
This is what I was thinking. Pair the sprints and late models together to draw a bigger crowd. Would probably have to be a multi day show to make the money math work. I’d like to see them give it a try.
I can confirm that if an area or track has a preference to a certain type of car, most of the people won't come out and support a event that isn't what their familiar with. Take Fairbury Speedway for example. The community is mostly late model and modified fans. When the world of outlaws tried to bring sprint cars to the track, the fans just did not show up. Even with some good racing put on, they could never bring in a halfway decent crowd. I know that the races were in the middle of the week but Jacksonville Speedway doesn't seem to have that issue. When the world of outlaws went their this year for a Wednesday show, they had their largest crowd in the history of the track.
Too much $$$ to go see what was probably a pretty thin field of cars
@@RobertDetert in 2018 they had 28 410 sprints and in 2019 they had 33.
San Diego here.. I would love to see a big series make it out west. The super stocks at Perris are cool but do not quite scratch the itch. I've recently realized that the best bet is plan a vacation to Eldora..
Great show as always! I think before a national tour goes west, some kind of regional tour needs to be in place. Would be interesting to see if a 15-20 race west coast regional tour could be successful, opening way for a national tour with an established fan and car base
Thursday would be a great night for Eldora to have an open practice night.
Maybe they are, IDK?
The Silver Dollar Speedway in Chico CA will become a Mecca for late model racing if you choose to come. I saw many Hunt The Front T-Shirts when the High limit series was in Chico.
So here’s a question for you. Not sure whether it was DIRTCAR or STSS, but I know one of them had a Deep South swing for the Northeastern modifieds for a season or two that went to Louisiana. It started the week after the “World Finals” in Charlotte. My question is do you have any idea how successful that was as far as spectator turnout? I’m from just of you in NC, and I follow those series via Mandee Pauch’s Dirt Track Untold channel, but I’m sure I’m a minority being in SLM country! At 64, I’ve been around Carolina’s racing since 1970, and I remember a time when sprint cars, midgets etc. were nowhere to be seen. Now they have a pretty big presence in the area. I guess anything’s possible, but SLM’s & Cali sounds like a long shot!
If they could get any type of crowds and paydays like Eldora for a couple one offs it would be worth it
The only potential California track I could see would be Bakersfield. Potential there with IMCA Mods running as a support class and if they're running their own special as well, there would be potential there. As you said though, a lot of methodical planning would need to be down but damn it would be cool to see supers at that track.
Ive been wanting to know why the late models dont go west.
When the wild wish shootout was in Arizona, it was sold out crowds all the time. I think there is potential it’s just too cold in New Mexico that time of year.
It would be nice to get late models, but we barely get sprint car action. Perris is always a question mark even for sprints with issues from the government.
Santa Maria in California race track would be a good one for late Models, Bakersfield and if Calistoga ever open back up . Calistoga was a blast with the late model and Modifieds. Sprint Car's was the best shows there.
There are a few types of racing especially in California those are Off Road Racing,Sprint Cars,Drag Racing and Land Speed Racing NOT Late Models
No Cars currently, there is a few tracks with limited LM, but no supers on the west coast, Maybe 1 or 2 tracks in OR, All the Late models are gone in CA.
Late models will be gone everywhere else in a few years Need to go to Crate 525 super late everywhere to keep them around for so local or regional racing.
There used to be a west coast series, think based around Bakersfield and Santa Maria mainly. I'd love for that to make a come back, but the west coast is all about sprints and IMCA mods.
@@IGOTITONTAPE19 it would thrive but people think paying $1,500 to $2,000 is “good money” for a series when it’s stupid expensive to run a late model. That’s why the class died in California and is dying in Oregon. Also none in Washington but they have some nice tracks late models would be bad ass at
It's tough and rare to get a 410 sprint race in Georgia. And for most sprint teams, that is a lot shorter of a drive than late model teams going to California.
South Dakota (Husets area) is such a sprint car hot area, we just never got Late Model races EVER! Until 3 years ago. There were more fans this year for the finals of the Silver Dollar Nationals then last year. It's getting bigger just takes a little time.
--After watching the World 100 were "stick men" were not allowed, what are the odds/chances that Late Model racing goes to that, The racing was so much better, IMO
The furthest West I've ever watched a Late Model race has been at Reno/Fernley Speedway and that was at least 15 years ago. I think it was a West Coast touring series that no longer exists.
I saw that Fernley is rebuilding their track on FB. Hopefully NARC / SCCT, and other divisions will race out there.
I'm about 1200 miles from Vado (between Chico & Placerville). I'd still like to make the trip down there to the Wild West Shootout. Placerville has some limited late models ... I've not seen them run, but it looks like they typically get around 10-12 cars.
it sucks that SUper Late models and USAC Sprint cars dont run in the West but theres no local scene so it makes sense why they cant/dont, especially late models
USAC CRA Sprints race on the West Coast 23 times this year
@@RegularJoes that series is a bit of a joke sorry. it also doesnt go north of like Santa Maria. its basically a southern CA and Arizona series. half their season is at Perris lol. and no streaming so nobody even knows about it
It's the cost of travel What BASS MASTERS said they quite coming but before they quite the made it where use California guy couldn't fish agents them . Had to be on tour with them to fish. Look at 91 Papage was from California racing Woo. Look at Dodson 74 he has to race back east just to run a late model. Closest late model Race is Las Vegas XR series. We ran one of the last races in California. Tracks and promoters just don't want to pay out the bucks like they do for Sprint Cars out here.
I understand not going to CA. Hell,I don’t even wanna go there. But,what I can’t understand,why not race in TX? Yes, WoOLMs have their one event in a couple weeks, but that’s it. Nothin else…
No need to go to California,,,from Vado head to Las Vegas motor speedway ,super fast half mile dirt track and a stadium feel.Many dirt track fans in Nevada it would also draw the fans from Cali,Utah and a few others, what a great vacation!
I remember going to Santa Maria to watch the west coast shootout in 2013 its sad it has died off considering there were 25 cars when I watched
If there is no Late Model racing in Cali, Cali promoters need to focus on the classes that run at tracks in that State (I.e. IMCA and Sprint Cars)
Jock is a great driver and all round nice guy to jump in a car hes only raced a couple of times with new crew guys on a track hes never ran in a different country and finish 8th against the best sprintcar drivers great effort i would say.....
Boothill speedway in Louisiana
Late model racing is just a southern thing, in the north east it's a side show no one stays to watch, it is boring to watch kinda like watching paint dry.
speak for yourself, late models racing is far above the NE Mods. - I am from Delaware.
There was a guy in the American Sprint Car Series got banned for entire year and fined $5,000 at Arrowhead Speedway one guy slammed into a side by side and almost hit the photographer at the racetrack
Goodyer will probably smoke’em all when he gets back home downunder !
What about traveling to NY , they stop going there also NDRA use to race at the Wheels and believe tracks like Utica Rome , Fulton and maybe Brewerton would be good choices
I lived your example of LM at Hussets in SD. 5-6 hour drive so I had to hit the road not knowing exactly who would show up….well much to my dismay it was Lucas regulars only(I expect some WoO guys)so end up being less than half the numbers from I-80.
Happen to strike up a conversation walking in with the track chaplain(nice guy)who was asking me very specific interesting questions about LM(I had no idea this is 100% Sprint car territory). It was very obvious based on his questions was this is absolutely the wrong track for this event. Then I walk in…first reaction is Impressive facility but then I see the track and the high earthen berm on the bottom….oh no….do the track prep guys know LM have a low nose on the ground and often run the very bottom of the track?? How does the track not realize LM don’t ride the berm like an open wheel Sprint car. Well the feature sucked because it was a one groove track bc the low line was completely taken alway bc the nose of the car would plow the berm and upset the car. Bring the Silver Dollar to I-70 pretty please.
I could see Kyle Larson getting Lucas to come to silver Dollar
Poor showing 4 RTJ. I was hoping he would do better.
It all comes down to the money... thats usually the problem to most things!
It's just like why don't the Big Blocks don't go to the midwest? doesn't make financial sense
Are late models becoming more popular than sprint cars??
Why?? Because there's hardly any dirt tracks that run open dirt late models out west
Wouldn't ever have enough cars for a good show.
I grew up in TMAC country and now live in California.. I’d love to see more than just winged sprint cars out here 🙄… Bakersfield is only 45 minutes from me but the 410’s aren’t worth the drive
You should check out the West coast sport compacts. We aren't late models or sprint cars but we put on great 3 wide action all through the field with lots of action
You would be wrong....
First!
easy, nobody wants to go there.
No fuckin’ race tracks
No west coast I will not watch
Too bad you are missing out on some nice tracks
We won't miss you....
because they know the tracks out west are garbage
Obviously you have no clue. We have some nice tracks out here.
Except for a few, I'll take most West Coast tracks over anything in PA. West Coast tracks always seem to have the best racing
Love to see it
To many bullrings in California is in my opinion why Late model Racing is basically nonexistent.