it's also because some players have an uneven tapping style when they play, so as they alternate they hold one key for longer than the other (you can tell by their key overlay having one button flash considerably shorter than the other)
@@doner1ght27m I did notice this when in a top player's livestream where he was streaming and he was pressing one key longer than the other key It tends to happen to those who use their pointy finger as their main tapping finger
it really doesnt matter,this kind of distribution is still naturally occurring, which is the main point. there are many patterns which occur in statistics,like bimodal distribution or the bellcurve which are the most famous ones. while chudsons,YEAHH.,... doesnt happen naturally. his distribution of hitting 42ms/63ms, goes all the way back to some replays in 2020 lol.
@@qwertzec just checked the subreddit and someone seems to have found a replay from 2022 with the same pattern (so before he even had RT) edit: lmao apparently a 2020 play as well, and also they're noticing that this issue isn't there on his aim stuff, and someone on twitter also used some cheat to get pretty much a similar type of graph update: banned the next day LMAOOO
@@edragon3046 With DT, an in-map second passes every 0.66 real seconds. Every 63 in-map ms, 42ms of real time passes. So, if you hold the button down for 42ms of real time, it would be registered as 63ms in-map time.
@@hehefunnysharkgoa9515but them why would it be incriminating that it's 63 with dt and 42 with nm? Wouldn't that just correspond to tapping with same hold time on both mods?
I can't fucking take it. I see an image of a random score posted and then I see it, I fucking see it. "Oh that looks kinda like the cloutiful 63 situation" it started as. That's funny, that's a cool reference. But I kept going, I'd see a game with ping that showed 63ms, I'd see that I'm on the 6/3 page on my school homework, my last notice to pay my electricity bill is 630.00$ , I'd notice that it's been 63 days since the last time I touched a woman. And every time I'd burst into an insane, breath deprived laugh staring at the image as the number 63 ran through my head. I'm scared to look at the time when someone asks me what time is it. It's torment, psychological torture, I am being conditioned to laugh maniacally any time I see an 2-digit number which is anywhere close to 63. I can't fucking live like this... I can't I can't I can't I can't I can't! And don't get me fucking started on the words! I'll never hear the phrase "when you see it" again without thinking of 63. Someone does pretty cool and respectable score and I can't say anything other than "WYSI." I could watch a man Fc hard underweighted map I love and all I would be able to say is "WYSI" and laugh like a fucking insane person. And the phrase "when you see it" is ruined. I can't live anymore. 63 has destroyed my fucking life. I want to eject myself from this plane of existence.
i dreamed last night that sytho and cloutiful were in a vc and sytho said that he got a surprise while he was live and he added another webcam which he said was cloutiful and he was a nonchalant dreadhead who proceeds to set a 2k on snow goose and prove he is legit.
good that this gets alot of exposure, this really needs to be adressed and explained. and cloutiful is really holding off on that liveplay, and a single liveplay wouldnt even be enough
i swear hes blatantly cheating trying to see how long it takes before he gets spotted. "hm im number 2 relax imma see how blatant i can be before i get banned"
This reminds me of a player in geometry dash that had accidently cheated through clicking at exactly 60ms intervals. I think cloutiful needs to make a live play since that type consistency is well beyond inhuman, I also wonder if all those plays were done on the same keyboard since if he does show to not be cheating it could be a hardware issue causing the weird input
It was a glitch with Skoe99's peripherals that made it seem that he was cheating. The only "cheating" was adjusting jumps to be 60fps frame perfects but he did it because of his buggy peripheral which only allowed him to click in certain intervals. Everyone agrees that skoe99 wasn't cheating and it was simply a weird fault with his peripheral, of which they don't even know how to explain. There are like 2 other cases of this weird glitch of hyper accurate clicking and it's a very similar case to this one.
You see, you can chalk it up to coincidence if it was just the 63ms, but the 42 ms being present in his non-DT plays because it's an exact 1.5 to 1 ratio basically makes it the truth
@@rip3650 yea it wasn't his fault i'm just pointing out the similarity of the two, however at the same time cloutiful having not only 63ms average but also 42ms when non DT is pretty sus since it would mean that he got a similar glitch twice
props to whoever did this research, actual good research and i highly doubt cloutiful is legit considering the coincidence between 42ms and 63ms, with 63/1.5
Sounds reasonable, honestly. I do want to see ninerik, khz, enri, mrekk, sytho, zoomer, zylice, akolibed, and windowlife's stats, just to differentiate against cloutiful's circle hold stats. Just to see how much of a difference there actually is within those top players' top play circle stats is probably even more than enough to strengthen (or weaken) the evidence.
would love to see someone check out umbres data since hes the first guy who comes to my mind when thinking about someone having insanely consistent tapping
The only thing that may say otherwise is that there are still variances in the holdtime, so maybe he has some really crazy muscle memory or something, but that's not very likely. Edit: Also wanted to mention that some people use software to cut other sounds out from their microphone, which may explain the lack of tapping noises. (For example, Discord has Krisp.)
I don't know why would anyone use noise supression when streaming OSU, it's just suspicious af, and i've seen some vids where he covers his keyboard with his mic.
There's a decent amount of variance on the both keys graph but when you separate the two key graphs the other key has basically zero variance which makes it so suspicious. Like there's almost zero hits that are outside of the spike around 63 which is insanely unlikely.
I remember on Cloutiful's stream people were spamming 52 and he was getting annoyed. His reason for getting annoyed was because "Idk why 52 annoys me, it just annoys me"
ill be honest ever since he came onto the scene ive thought he was cheating so seeing this now i cant say im surprised he went from like no one to literally a god
@@Apple_Beshy its been so obvious for so long like even when he was epic gaming im sure u will find comments of mine on cpol plays from then saying he was cheating
About the human metronome thing... Does anyone know the circle hold duration of umbre's Sidetracked Day scores? Are they also spread out like the other players or does it also spike around 42?
I don't understand why people are mad that Zylice bought mapple, like, for example, if you want to have proof on a subject you have to learn about it. So if they wanted to understand how mapple actually works, if they wanted to replicate what "worst hr player" did, they had to actually dl mapple and test it themselves, that's just pure logic. They have to have their own experience to give their opinion on something. And I find it so stupid when someone says "omg, he bought mapple, he's cheating lmao" like, I know it's a joke, but guys it's just not funny tbh. They needed to do it, that's all, Zylice doesn't need any type of cheat to beat us ngl. I find the osu community very hypocritical on this subject. If you suspect a cheater, especially if it's a top player, it's okay to gather evidence, ask people, test things to gather more evidence, etc. Yes Badeu sent it at a bad timing and he could have send it later, but they both apologized, so it's time to stop and leave them some peace, dont you think ? Idk, maybe i'm the crazy person here.
![BLACK BAG - Official Trailer [HD] - Only in Theaters March 14](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Du0Xp8WX_7I/mqdefault.jpg)
![Blox Fruits Dragon Rework Update [Full Stream]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/EqDAp8udhm0/mqdefault.jpg)
![BeasttrollMC reacts to Merami's Ascension to Heaven DT FC [9.73⭐] osu!](/img/1.gif)
On ascension to heaven, aetrna’s distribution is doubled because the BPM has a change, so the way he taps changes at the mid-point of the map.
it's also because some players have an uneven tapping style when they play, so as they alternate they hold one key for longer than the other (you can tell by their key overlay having one button flash considerably shorter than the other)
@@doner1ght27m I did notice this when in a top player's livestream where he was streaming and he was pressing one key longer than the other key
It tends to happen to those who use their pointy finger as their main tapping finger
I think it also effected by stamina
@@doner1ght27m so if someone is full alt like let say bubbleman, would the distribution be very even/close to even
it really doesnt matter,this kind of distribution is still naturally occurring, which is the main point. there are many patterns which occur in statistics,like bimodal distribution or the bellcurve which are the most famous ones.
while chudsons,YEAHH.,... doesnt happen naturally. his distribution of hitting 42ms/63ms, goes all the way back to some replays in 2020 lol.
Mrekk working overtime planting evidence to keep people from being #1
petty queen
LMAO
you got my heart working overtime
he even made accolibed take a break
@@cattoboimoodaprobably threatened his family 😢
An ACTUAL good report for once, truly a remarkable site
Honestly yeah. I doubt he’s actually cheating but the suspicion is very fair.
yeah from the starting looked like an interesting report
i heard that it was replicable with rt and prob not cheating
@@qwertzec just checked the subreddit and someone seems to have found a replay from 2022 with the same pattern (so before he even had RT)
edit: lmao apparently a 2020 play as well, and also they're noticing that this issue isn't there on his aim stuff, and someone on twitter also used some cheat to get pretty much a similar type of graph
update: banned the next day LMAOOO
@@qwertzec it is apparently replicable with wooting dks feature but cloutiful isnt using it
we need zylice to test the cheats out (IM JUST KIDDING)
He actually could KEKW
A /s would do just fine
(IM JUST KIDDING)
Active cheater in the top 3? You really think we would let that pass?
Yeah
:clueless:
Happened in GD for the number 1 player for a long ass time. Not impossible
@@mbyrdmusicblud forgot this is osu😂
But aint no speed can compete with this editor speed
They are cheating ofc
xqc's clipper pumps out clips 30 minutes before it's supposed to happen live
It'd make sense if the nm scores also had a consistent 63 but them being 42 makes it much worse
well the thing i dont understand why dt plays have 63ms holds when it should be lowering by 1.5 not multiplying from nomod ones
@@edragon3046 With DT, an in-map second passes every 0.66 real seconds. Every 63 in-map ms, 42ms of real time passes. So, if you hold the button down for 42ms of real time, it would be registered as 63ms in-map time.
@@hehefunnysharkgoa9515 does it mean he's actually always holding 42ms and the 42/63 thing only happens because of how gametime works tho?
@@xoden yes
@@hehefunnysharkgoa9515but them why would it be incriminating that it's 63 with dt and 42 with nm? Wouldn't that just correspond to tapping with same hold time on both mods?
Can't wait for 63 to become a meme
63
Called it
off that 63
I'm on that 63ms
I can't fucking take it. I see an image of a random score posted and then I see it, I fucking see it. "Oh that looks kinda like the cloutiful 63 situation" it started as. That's funny, that's a cool reference. But I kept going, I'd see a game with ping that showed 63ms, I'd see that I'm on the 6/3 page on my school homework, my last notice to pay my electricity bill is 630.00$ , I'd notice that it's been 63 days since the last time I touched a woman. And every time I'd burst into an insane, breath deprived laugh staring at the image as the number 63 ran through my head. I'm scared to look at the time when someone asks me what time is it. It's torment, psychological torture, I am being conditioned to laugh maniacally any time I see an 2-digit number which is anywhere close to 63. I can't fucking live like this... I can't I can't I can't I can't I can't! And don't get me fucking started on the words! I'll never hear the phrase "when you see it" again without thinking of 63. Someone does pretty cool and respectable score and I can't say anything other than "WYSI." I could watch a man Fc hard underweighted map I love and all I would be able to say is "WYSI" and laugh like a fucking insane person. And the phrase "when you see it" is ruined. I can't live anymore. 63 has destroyed my fucking life. I want to eject myself from this plane of existence.
inb4 63 becomes the new "cheater" meme
HE ADMITTED TO CHEATING AFTER THIS LMAO
21:00 "badeu will single-handedly make him look legit" LMAOOO
7:18 r/osureport coming for bmc
there is already a report posted 20 min ago lol
and it has been removed
mrekk's agents are everywhere
i dreamed last night that sytho and cloutiful were in a vc and sytho said that he got a surprise while he was live and he added another webcam which he said was cloutiful and he was a nonchalant dreadhead who proceeds to set a 2k on snow goose and prove he is legit.
this is the best dream ive ever heard
:/
BAAAKA 😎 what about these dreads ladies? 😼
good that this gets alot of exposure, this really needs to be adressed and explained. and cloutiful is really holding off on that liveplay, and a single liveplay wouldnt even be enough
i swear hes blatantly cheating trying to see how long it takes before he gets spotted.
"hm im number 2 relax imma see how blatant i can be before i get banned"
This reminds me of a player in geometry dash that had accidently cheated through clicking at exactly 60ms intervals. I think cloutiful needs to make a live play since that type consistency is well beyond inhuman, I also wonder if all those plays were done on the same keyboard since if he does show to not be cheating it could be a hardware issue causing the weird input
It was a glitch with Skoe99's peripherals that made it seem that he was cheating. The only "cheating" was adjusting jumps to be 60fps frame perfects but he did it because of his buggy peripheral which only allowed him to click in certain intervals. Everyone agrees that skoe99 wasn't cheating and it was simply a weird fault with his peripheral, of which they don't even know how to explain. There are like 2 other cases of this weird glitch of hyper accurate clicking and it's a very similar case to this one.
You see, you can chalk it up to coincidence if it was just the 63ms, but the 42 ms being present in his non-DT plays because it's an exact 1.5 to 1 ratio basically makes it the truth
making a play from a PC reboot doesnt take this long, he's cooked
@@rip3650 yea it wasn't his fault i'm just pointing out the similarity of the two, however at the same time cloutiful having not only 63ms average but also 42ms when non DT is pretty sus since it would mean that he got a similar glitch twice
on this episode of btmc clips, ed interprets data for 25 minutes
12:25 burj khalifa 💀
☠️☠️☠️
I NOTICED THAT TOO
Cloutiful is just George Russel in disguise with all those 63s he get-
He choked snow goose like george did in the final lap of a race
@@ap-qd9xf bro 😭😭
props to whoever did this research, actual good research and i highly doubt cloutiful is legit considering the coincidence between 42ms and 63ms, with 63/1.5
One number. Two digits. "63"
sixty-three?
wdf does dis mean
Thats two words
@@Zudexa ????
@@xanderkingsbery492 ???
Ive already been suspicious of this dude from the beginning, his plays are almost too good to be true
first it was 727, then it was 227, now it's 63
63?? Number sounds familiar.. I can't put a name on it.. cloutiful? Who's that? Hold time? 3? That was Lifeline's spot..
cant wait to test BTMC arch linux distro
with X or Wayland?@@ivyish
the Forum situation was a shame but here i see the suspicions are real
From now on, we should use this kind of data for the top 100 because, imo this is the most objective way to check for any cheat
Invite him to the Roundtable 3 and see the liveplay live
Ed did say that in this video 17:25
@jelo69 lmao I typed this comment before I watched the whole video I guess I think like Ed
btw cloutiful deleted twit, yt and he got banned. W for lifeline
can we compare this mofo to the actual human metronome that is umbre
Offset wizzard 1v1 🔥
Sounds reasonable, honestly. I do want to see ninerik, khz, enri, mrekk, sytho, zoomer, zylice, akolibed, and windowlife's stats, just to differentiate against cloutiful's circle hold stats. Just to see how much of a difference there actually is within those top players' top play circle stats is probably even more than enough to strengthen (or weaken) the evidence.
bro got banned xd
"Welcome back spaceuk" SO TRUE LMAO
the BTMC in BTMC stands for The Best Mreaction Channel
it's pretty weird to see an akatsuki relax player play only stream maps on bancho to be fair 😂😂
That's what made me suspicious, even tho players like Plasma and CosmoXR are legit, they both are mainly AIM players tho, maybe even Badeu
@@makotheowl mahmood is also an aim player
Funnily enough this guy woulda still been like 3 digit Aim only, he literally has a Brazil 1.2k but nah bro just had to cheat
@@makotheowl badeu was one of the best aim players even before he played relax a lot (he started playing relax in 2021)
idk this could be a side effect of how jank the drunk deer is
would love to see someone check out umbres data since hes the first guy who comes to my mind when thinking about someone having insanely consistent tapping
my first thought as well
13:04 hes speaking from experience
Yeah a hardware issue would just be a pure 42 or 63 ms length right?
an update: clothiful got restricted
LMFAOOOO HE ADMITTED TO CHEATING
whereee aaaa
Aint no way
The only thing that may say otherwise is that there are still variances in the holdtime, so maybe he has some really crazy muscle memory or something, but that's not very likely.
Edit: Also wanted to mention that some people use software to cut other sounds out from their microphone, which may explain the lack of tapping noises. (For example, Discord has Krisp.)
I don't know why would anyone use noise supression when streaming OSU, it's just suspicious af, and i've seen some vids where he covers his keyboard with his mic.
@@its9301 yes this is supsicious but you listed completely wrong reasons lmao
There's a decent amount of variance on the both keys graph but when you separate the two key graphs the other key has basically zero variance which makes it so suspicious. Like there's almost zero hits that are outside of the spike around 63 which is insanely unlikely.
12:52 BTMC explaining the Osu community in 2024
Holdtime distribution be like: 👆
"Free Zylice" 🤓☝
the fact that the nomod plays have 42ms says it all
so either he's cheating or has the most consistent tapping on high bpm streams out of everyone. what a god, or what a loser
The mrek agency cooked this time
hardware issue cant explain why is nm is 42ms.
HOLY FUCK HE CONFESSED
it would be so funny if he got cheating accusations because he has perfect technique
well well well..
shoutout to mcpvp/mcteams
wasn't cloutiful a relax player on akatsuki server? i remember i heard that some time ago
yes
he's top 4 akatsuki btw
I love that cloutiful probably only got caught so soon because he flew too close to the sun with that 2kpp choke LMAO
didnt you already post this? or am i crazy
I remember on Cloutiful's stream people were spamming 52 and he was getting annoyed. His reason for getting annoyed was because "Idk why 52 annoys me, it just annoys me"
And all of his top 100 plays except 1 is like only months old
this could be the whitecat situation all over again lol
gotta wait for a liveplay and we'll see
He's not gonna make it
like that's gonna explain the 63 42
well...
bro i always said that this guy was very suspicious, hes just doing anything at this point, he already choked 2k pp like it was nothing wth
wait until 63 becomes a hush-hush expert badge
btmc talking about linux makes me happy for some reason
he just admitted LMAOOOO
i want mrekk graph
Sounds like that hardware problem with GD but we have never seen a case happening with keyboards.
Im surprised that several viewers of this video know about skoe's TTV incident
25min clip MonkaW
He tried to wallah his way to the top
HE ADMITTED BRO WTF
a top aim player starts instantly playing 300bpm so legit LMFAO
16hrs later, he admits to cheating lol
bro he just confessed 💀
Ggs
could be rapid trigger with low profile laptop keys
ill be honest ever since he came onto the scene ive thought he was cheating so seeing this now i cant say im surprised he went from like no one to literally a god
HAHAHA we are discussing on discord why he deleted his liveplay but then he suddenly admitted to cheating.
@@Apple_Beshy its been so obvious for so long like even when he was epic gaming im sure u will find comments of mine on cpol plays from then saying he was cheating
About the human metronome thing... Does anyone know the circle hold duration of umbre's Sidetracked Day scores? Are they also spread out like the other players or does it also spike around 42?
does umbre even use rapid trigger?
the graphs looks like sadam husein meme
holy shit first relevant and real osu report dropped
HAHAHA we are discussing on discord why he deleted his liveplay but then he suddenly admitted to cheating.
i wanna see umbres and shiges graphs
A lot of solid evidence, also compared to other top player replay he is sus
Top Player Skeptic rn:
Maple has everything not just replay submit bot
Also he doesnt show his taskbar in his streams
turns out he was using a new wooting feature to get stupid accuracy and was cheating, very disappointing to see
Nahh. Bro just has near perfect technique ong
HAHAHA we are discussing on discord why he deleted his liveplay to defend himself but then he suddenly admitted to cheating..
17:20 not anymore lmao
he's gone 🗣
cloutful banned
Fascinating
Umbre + DT
LESGOOOO BTMC WANNA TASTE LINUX AGAIN
63 is the new 727
Yeah he got banned
I haven't touched osu in my life why is this reccomended yt
IT IS IMPERITIVE THAT YOU HAVE UP TO DATE KNOWLEDGE ON THE LATEST OSU! CHEATING SCANDAL, YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT.
63 Самара B-)
either he is actually cheating or hes just umbre with speed fr
Guess what 💀💀💀🚂🚂🚂
It's so obvious..
I don't understand why people are mad that Zylice bought mapple, like, for example, if you want to have proof on a subject you have to learn about it. So if they wanted to understand how mapple actually works, if they wanted to replicate what "worst hr player" did, they had to actually dl mapple and test it themselves, that's just pure logic. They have to have their own experience to give their opinion on something. And I find it so stupid when someone says "omg, he bought mapple, he's cheating lmao" like, I know it's a joke, but guys it's just not funny tbh. They needed to do it, that's all, Zylice doesn't need any type of cheat to beat us ngl.
I find the osu community very hypocritical on this subject. If you suspect a cheater, especially if it's a top player, it's okay to gather evidence, ask people, test things to gather more evidence, etc.
Yes Badeu sent it at a bad timing and he could have send it later, but they both apologized, so it's time to stop and leave them some peace, dont you think ?
Idk, maybe i'm the crazy person here.
Yea his acc gone.