honestly bro, these are the important things. You cant appreciate the beauty of a diamond without that black felt background. Ill never forget in '86 I shot the best roll of 35mm stills ever.. that day was magic and I just knew almost every shot was a gift from God. I could feel it talking to me through the viewfinder. was this amazing energy. I was so excited and I went back to the darkroom that afternoon with a rush of excitement in my heart. after the entire roll got damaged I cried for a few hours. To this day im still not sure, bad chemical bath or maybe I accidentally exposed it.. I don't know. I just know the entire roll was gone. it taught me patience, humility and that analog always involves a cost.. and its payment can feed forward OR backward, if you catch my drift. Thanks for sharing. We all have one thing in common, we all make mistakes.. but they're more important than the successes. And if we pay close attention, theyre usually trying to teach us something about ourselves in general.
So sorry you had that experience. I see so many people who are eager to shoot film, but for one reason or another don’t thoroughly research every aspect of filming with whatever camera they choose, shoot a few feet, and then roughly develop it at home as a test. I wish us old people (I’m 63) could just impart our experience, and lessons learned to those new to cinematography through osmosis or telekinesis.. especially with the high cost of film these days. I know it doesn’t help, but we’ve all been there/done that. Next time it will be fantastic.. I promise.
Its actually the best tutorial I’ve seen so far on youtube. it explains to me that no matter how many informations you’ll have about 16mm, experience is experience & you can’t learn like a mathematical formula or sum - this is art & it require time & fails, so your tutorial is actually well done : fail & learn from it until you are closer to your vision, whatever it takes because yes you’ll lose time & money to you, but to the art’s perspective, you won something that nobody can afford.
I think everyone who has shot and worked creatively in film can relate to this. Thanks for sharing. I know those moments you thought you had captured are gone ...but there are equally as magical moments still waiting for you to capture (with the pressure plate firmly in place). Onward!
Thank you so much for sharing this experience. Take heart that you've probably saved dozens of future Bolex shooters from making the same mistake. Subbed.
I'm back again. Man, 2:39 just activates to my nostalgia receptors & 4:42 feels like an archaeological expedition from the 40s. Screw what you didn't get, what you have is Amazing! The train at dawn shot also feels like the Days of Heaven scene with a train at dawn.
This was “How not to Shoot 16mm” but was probably the most valuable video. No one mentioned this. I shot on Bolex in film school and didn’t know about this.
Thanks very much for this outstanding video! Marvelous! During the short test run with the open camera I saw that the loop formers were still closed. In older models the closing of the lid does not automaticaly open the loop formers. This gives also an effect like you got.
AH HA! Its been over 13 years since I ran a roll through my Bolex and this explains the results! Had always planned on having a better income to film more but it got shelved and there it sits. I am so inspired to go dig it out of storage right now and tighten the gate.
An honest account of how easy it is to have an unhappy experience in the early days of Bolex 16mm ownership. This video will have no doubt saved many Bolex 16mm users a considerable amount of money. It doesn't do any harm to get into the habit of cleaning the pressure plate, gate area and loop formers prior to loading each film. As my eyes aren't as sharp as they used to be, I use a strong light and my iPhone to photograph the gate, and then zoom in on the image to check for those tiny gate hairs that sometimes photobomb a complete roll.
Such a strong video. But also impressed at how calm you were after finding out those rolls were ruined. That kind of thing makes me wish the floor would eat me.
Shooting with a Bolex can be expensive. It sucks that you had that issue! I've had mixed results with my dad's old Bolex from under exposure to the film moving from side to side in the gate to the spring winding down causing the footage frame rate to look like a really old movie. It's trial and error and unfortunately expensive to purchase and process the film. The results can be lots of fun and exciting to actually be using film instead of digital. I've managed to make a couple of shorts that turned out mostly okay. I really like your lens adapter.
Thanks! I recently got a Bolex 16mm and some film but havent shot it yet, because currently still in the process of working with my first scanned super8s, so the next step is definitely 16mm and this video really helped with something that I can now avoid and save time and money, thank you!
Just stumbled across your channel and I can already tell this is one of those special channels that you find before they blow up. Can't wait to tell people I was subscribed before you got huge. Great video man and hope your future 16mm footage turns out better!
Clean the gate and the film chamber. Tighten the pressure plate screw. Send the test reel out for processing right away. Got it! Thanks. One of mine is: shoot on a full wind, not near the end.
man I lOOOOVe Bolex, was my first 16mm motion picture film experience. Back before digital was the rage (pre Episode 1) and shooting on film was that first step closer to living the dream (filmmaking). Stressful, but wonderful. I will get my hands on one one day. Lovely video, really enjoyed the feelings it gave me watching, props Logan!
In Italy we have a saying: sbagliando si impara. Translated: you learn by making mistakes. Anyway spectacular work, the scenery you captured was amazing. As you did in the video, the rotten clips have a lofi vibe to them, maybe do a compilation with lofi music under the clips. About music what's that marvelous tune with the sliding guitar?
Just stumbled across this. I think the "ruined" shots actually look cool. You could very easily use them as textural elements and cuts in another project, if you were to lean into it. Or heck, send them to me, I'd love to play around with them!
Thank you!! I had a roll of regular 8mm come out just like this with the vertical pulling and I've been trying to understand why. The pressure plate it must be!
Many things can cause shutter ghosting like this --- loop formers not opened; loss of a loop; pull down claw not engaging properly; not properly closed pressure plate; or a misaligned shutter.
It certainly looks like you could make an interesting and beautiful experimental tone poem from the damaged footage you’ve presented in this video. We all make critical mistakes at times. Maybe it’s just how it’s supposed to go so something else can occur instead.
You dont have to be sad about these clips. In lala land there were also some shots with this effect, but on porpoise. And it looked stylistically great.
Hi Logan, this 30 sec. Intro is insane 🙏👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻. I've saw every 16mm you tube videos and 95% of these was (for me) just little better than super 8mm... (but 16mm should be a great format isn'it). How do you reach this incredible qualiy in this amazing intro? Thanks a lot for help. P.s. I'm a film photographer and I'm wondering ti buy a Bolex h16 camera, your video is growing me this dream. Thank you.
Ah man, absolutely killer. Hats off to you for creating a killer video out of it though. Beautifully crafted. I definitely would have had a mental breakdown and never touched it again, so.
That's some pretty cool experiental film footage. ;-) Just change your perspective on it perhaps... and edit it anyways and send it to experimental film festivals ;-) It looks amazing by the way ;-) Goldmine!
Can you film a copy of easy rider the movie(cd) onto 16mm film? Do you have any full length 16mm movies for sale? I run a club and we have a working 16mm projector and a couple of 16mm cartoons. I am searching for a full length movie.
Its the journy. Bravo. - AND... I actually kinda love the fucked up look. Theres a story in that.... Lots of people use a huge combo of digital filters to achieve a look like that. Think about it....
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honestly bro, these are the important things. You cant appreciate the beauty of a diamond without that black felt background. Ill never forget in '86 I shot the best roll of 35mm stills ever.. that day was magic and I just knew almost every shot was a gift from God. I could feel it talking to me through the viewfinder. was this amazing energy. I was so excited and I went back to the darkroom that afternoon with a rush of excitement in my heart. after the entire roll got damaged I cried for a few hours. To this day im still not sure, bad chemical bath or maybe I accidentally exposed it.. I don't know. I just know the entire roll was gone. it taught me patience, humility and that analog always involves a cost.. and its payment can feed forward OR backward, if you catch my drift. Thanks for sharing. We all have one thing in common, we all make mistakes.. but they're more important than the successes. And if we pay close attention, theyre usually trying to teach us something about ourselves in general.
30 seconds in and this is the greatest thing I’ve ever seen in my life
It's telling the story of how the first movie was created.
So sorry you had that experience. I see so many people who are eager to shoot film, but for one reason or another don’t thoroughly research every aspect of filming with whatever camera they choose, shoot a few feet, and then roughly develop it at home as a test. I wish us old people (I’m 63) could just impart our experience, and lessons learned to those new to cinematography through osmosis or telekinesis.. especially with the high cost of film these days. I know it doesn’t help, but we’ve all been there/done that. Next time it will be fantastic.. I promise.
Its actually the best tutorial I’ve seen so far on youtube. it explains to me that no matter how many informations you’ll have about 16mm, experience is experience & you can’t learn like a mathematical formula or sum - this is art & it require time & fails, so your tutorial is actually well done : fail & learn from it until you are closer to your vision, whatever it takes because yes you’ll lose time & money to you, but to the art’s perspective, you won something that nobody can afford.
I couldn't stifle a chuckle at the 00:56 min mark. So subtle yet impactful.
Having shot tons and tons of filmstock, it's always painful to lose footage to camera issues but you learn from each roll, good or bad.
I do believe these are the most beautiful talking head shots I've seen on youtube
Man these just keep getting better. This channel is a gift.
Incredible. This is the kind of thing youtube needs more of.
I think everyone who has shot and worked creatively in film can relate to this. Thanks for sharing. I know those moments you thought you had captured are gone ...but there are equally as magical moments still waiting for you to capture (with the pressure plate firmly in place). Onward!
LIKE DUDE! Those shots with the messed up pressure plate look amazing! Such a cool vibe
Thanks budddddyy - if it happens again I probably won't be too upset :)
I still cannot get over how much I truly enjoy watching your videos! I have watched most of them more than once!
Thank you so much
Thank you so much for sharing this experience. Take heart that you've probably saved dozens of future Bolex shooters from making the same mistake. Subbed.
I'm back again. Man, 2:39 just activates to my nostalgia receptors & 4:42 feels like an archaeological expedition from the 40s. Screw what you didn't get, what you have is Amazing! The train at dawn shot also feels like the Days of Heaven scene with a train at dawn.
This is a beautiful video in many ways. But 5:55 has me absolutely howling.
This was “How not to Shoot 16mm” but was probably the most valuable video. No one mentioned this. I shot on Bolex in film school and didn’t know about this.
Thanks very much for this outstanding video! Marvelous!
During the short test run with the open camera I saw that the loop formers were still closed. In older models the closing of the lid does not automaticaly open the loop formers. This gives also an effect like you got.
AH HA! Its been over 13 years since I ran a roll through my Bolex and this explains the results! Had always planned on having a better income to film more but it got shelved and there it sits. I am so inspired to go dig it out of storage right now and tighten the gate.
The production on this video is better then most Hollywood films
Commenting to help the algorithm because this is just the emotional rollercoaster my Wednesday needed and more people should see this.
thank you thank you :)
Beautiful, a good man will you show you his successes, a great man will tell you of his failures, and how not to hit the same trap. Bravo!
An honest account of how easy it is to have an unhappy experience in the early days of Bolex 16mm ownership. This video will have no doubt saved many Bolex 16mm users a considerable amount of money.
It doesn't do any harm to get into the habit of cleaning the pressure plate, gate area and loop formers prior to loading each film. As my eyes aren't as sharp as they used to be, I use a strong light and my iPhone to photograph the gate, and then zoom in on the image to check for those tiny gate hairs that sometimes photobomb a complete roll.
I'm learning about Bolex cameras. Great music choices! I dig the loose pressure plate footage🙂
all the nature work you're doing is so calming
also, I'm convinced you're the kind of person Fleet Foxes makes music for haha
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a big Fleet Foxes fan :)
That is just that "astigmatism" lens filter man! 💯
The Jurassic Park bit was HILARIOUS 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This is awesome sauceeeee!!! Amazing lighting on your end though (for your interview based set up)
On the bright side 5:59 looks incredible with that defect
Thanks, Steven - I've definitely grown to like some of the messed up footage
Great video. Just got my SBM, trying to learn as much as I can. Also, cool Power Trip shirt.
Sweet!
Power Trip rules. Riley Forever!
Such a strong video. But also impressed at how calm you were after finding out those rolls were ruined. That kind of thing makes me wish the floor would eat me.
Shooting with a Bolex can be expensive. It sucks that you had that issue! I've had mixed results with my dad's old Bolex from under exposure to the film moving from side to side in the gate to the spring winding down causing the footage frame rate to look like a really old movie. It's trial and error and unfortunately expensive to purchase and process the film. The results can be lots of fun and exciting to actually be using film instead of digital. I've managed to make a couple of shorts that turned out mostly okay. I really like your lens adapter.
dude the opening shot tho. i am amazed
You and Brae are making me want to go out and buy a 16mm film camera. Great video always love watching your work!
Do itttttt
wait, wait, wait WHAT... WHAT is this intro montage? I need a full film on what's going on there
Thanks! I recently got a Bolex 16mm and some film but havent shot it yet, because currently still in the process of working with my first scanned super8s, so the next step is definitely 16mm and this video really helped with something that I can now avoid and save time and money, thank you!
Just stumbled across your channel and I can already tell this is one of those special channels that you find before they blow up. Can't wait to tell people I was subscribed before you got huge. Great video man and hope your future 16mm footage turns out better!
Thanks so much for watching and for the support!
Work of art, Logan!
Incredible video dude. One of most underrated creatives in this space imo
Clean the gate and the film chamber. Tighten the pressure plate screw. Send the test reel out for processing right away.
Got it! Thanks.
One of mine is: shoot on a full wind, not near the end.
Can't wait for your guide on shooting 16mm next year.
I'm already scared to start working on that :)
Most cinematic mistake that I’ve ever seen😍😍
man I lOOOOVe Bolex, was my first 16mm motion picture film experience. Back before digital was the rage (pre Episode 1) and shooting on film was that first step closer to living the dream (filmmaking). Stressful, but wonderful. I will get my hands on one one day. Lovely video, really enjoyed the feelings it gave me watching, props Logan!
In Italy we have a saying: sbagliando si impara. Translated: you learn by making mistakes. Anyway spectacular work, the scenery you captured was amazing. As you did in the video, the rotten clips have a lofi vibe to them, maybe do a compilation with lofi music under the clips. About music what's that marvelous tune with the sliding guitar?
I like your style a lot, super talented but I can tell you don't take yourself too seriously. Good work.
I would love to get a How to shoot with a Bolex H16 video and get to know how the camera works! but thanks for this one loved it!
I actually like these results . Thanks for sharing
the cinematography of your videos are absolutely insane! would love to see how you colour grade your videos :)
These are the videos I don't mind ignoring my actual job to watch
Yep! Test roll. Sorry to hear your loss. Also, is your Rolex Super 16? I notice the aspect ratio.
Just stumbled across this. I think the "ruined" shots actually look cool. You could very easily use them as textural elements and cuts in another project, if you were to lean into it. Or heck, send them to me, I'd love to play around with them!
ITS ART! JUST ART! I LOVE IT.
Thank you!! I had a roll of regular 8mm come out just like this with the vertical pulling and I've been trying to understand why. The pressure plate it must be!
Nicely done. So many reasons to shoot digital but you do you. Shot film back in the day. Had access to an Arri
Ok for real though the messed up footage is pretty awesome in its own way
woah cool, i little cine something at the beginning. i like it!
Incredibly put together video - props
Logan you would make a superb actor.
Many things can cause shutter ghosting like this --- loop formers not opened; loss of a loop; pull down claw not engaging properly; not properly closed pressure plate; or a misaligned shutter.
What was this video filmed on?
I describe every mistake I make as a learning experience. All about how you frame it.
what was the song that played at 1:26?
It certainly looks like you could make an interesting and beautiful experimental tone poem from the damaged footage you’ve presented in this video.
We all make critical mistakes at times. Maybe it’s just how it’s supposed to go so something else can occur instead.
Holysht. Those colors.
idk i gotta say the “bad” footage has a pretty cool vibe whether it was intended or not
So beautiful. Thanks for shooting
You dont have to be sad about these clips. In lala land there were also some shots with this effect, but on porpoise. And it looked stylistically great.
you can tell me stuff about a spoon at this point, so hooked, great video about a mistake!
5:35 The video is great, what equipment was used to shoot it ？
Thank you! I used the BMPCC6K
Great video! I love the homage at the beginning.
What camera did you use for shooting the good clips on this video?
Hi Logan, this 30 sec. Intro is insane 🙏👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻. I've saw every 16mm you tube videos and 95% of these was (for me) just little better than super 8mm... (but 16mm should be a great format isn'it). How do you reach this incredible qualiy in this amazing intro? Thanks a lot for help.
P.s. I'm a film photographer and I'm wondering ti buy a Bolex h16 camera, your video is growing me this dream. Thank you.
Make a psychological horror film with the “bad” footage!
Man I’m nervous and excited. I’m gonna shoot some black and white footage with a NON-reflex H16!
Now I’m a REX5 owner!
Great work!
What is this amazing lens on the opening wide and ending wide?
Ah man, absolutely killer. Hats off to you for creating a killer video out of it though. Beautifully crafted. I definitely would have had a mental breakdown and never touched it again, so.
Mind asking how you attached the NF on the Bolex?
Really easy and enjoyable tutorial. Thanks!
That's some pretty cool experiental film footage. ;-) Just change your perspective on it perhaps... and edit it anyways and send it to experimental film festivals ;-) It looks amazing by the way ;-) Goldmine!
Fantastic video, such a nice vibe. What’s that first song that you used?
You should shoot on a Mercury Univex II sometime and see how it goes.
What's that marvelous tune with the sliding guitar? - ...and: your video is told very nicely.
so you didn't close the plate at all for all those roll, and some turn out ok? or those turn out ok is those you close the plate?
Hey😊 what’s the name of the jazz song at the end of the video?
Nice one, I love it 👍
Good Power Trip shirt.
Riley Forever.
Keep fighting 🖤
Hey at least it looks like most of your exposure settings were correct.. 😉.
Love ur videos, which camera do you use for the film stuff?
Are you doing it again?
the best videos
that intro lmao
This footage makes me want to intentionally loosening the pressure plate. It’s gorgeous in my opinion
😂😂😂😂 Yes it herts! I know exactly how you feel!
Can you film a copy of easy rider the movie(cd) onto 16mm film?
Do you have any full length 16mm movies for sale?
I run a club and we have a working 16mm projector and a couple of 16mm cartoons.
I am searching for a full length movie.
What lens did u get
Similar thing happened to me, but I used the "defective" material artistically. 😉
gorgeous.
I dont get how you ONLY have 6k subs
Its the journy. Bravo. - AND... I actually kinda love the fucked up look. Theres a story in that.... Lots of people use a huge combo of digital filters to achieve a look like that. Think about it....
what tripod are you using?
Mostly just a aluminum Manfrotto tripod - it sucks though and I'm in the market for a new one. Get a Benro :)