How Not to Shoot 16mm | Using a Bolex
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- In today's episode, I tell the tragic story of how I completely screwed up 3 rolls of 16mm film. Due to a loose pressure plate (I think) the film came back super distorted. This is a little different than my usual videos but I had to close the door on this video and be done with it. I hope you enjoy my suffering! If you're interested in learning how to shoot 16mm, check out these videos below!
How to Load a Bolex - bit.ly/3m3pVIf
Kodaks 16mm Film | Getting Started - bit.ly/3B9xVvE
How to Shoot 16mm Film in 2021 - bit.ly/3C7LPzU
Intro to Shooting on 16mm Film - bit.ly/3jnmuuk
How Vintage 16mm Cameras Work - bit.ly/3m4rjuk
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30 seconds in and this is the greatest thing I’ve ever seen in my life
It's telling the story of how the first movie was created.
honestly bro, these are the important things. You cant appreciate the beauty of a diamond without that black felt background. Ill never forget in '86 I shot the best roll of 35mm stills ever.. that day was magic and I just knew almost every shot was a gift from God. I could feel it talking to me through the viewfinder. was this amazing energy. I was so excited and I went back to the darkroom that afternoon with a rush of excitement in my heart. after the entire roll got damaged I cried for a few hours. To this day im still not sure, bad chemical bath or maybe I accidentally exposed it.. I don't know. I just know the entire roll was gone. it taught me patience, humility and that analog always involves a cost.. and its payment can feed forward OR backward, if you catch my drift. Thanks for sharing. We all have one thing in common, we all make mistakes.. but they're more important than the successes. And if we pay close attention, theyre usually trying to teach us something about ourselves in general.
So sorry you had that experience. I see so many people who are eager to shoot film, but for one reason or another don’t thoroughly research every aspect of filming with whatever camera they choose, shoot a few feet, and then roughly develop it at home as a test. I wish us old people (I’m 63) could just impart our experience, and lessons learned to those new to cinematography through osmosis or telekinesis.. especially with the high cost of film these days. I know it doesn’t help, but we’ve all been there/done that. Next time it will be fantastic.. I promise.
Incredible. This is the kind of thing youtube needs more of.
This is a beautiful video in many ways. But 5:55 has me absolutely howling.
LIKE DUDE! Those shots with the messed up pressure plate look amazing! Such a cool vibe
Thanks budddddyy - if it happens again I probably won't be too upset :)
Man these just keep getting better. This channel is a gift.
AH HA! Its been over 13 years since I ran a roll through my Bolex and this explains the results! Had always planned on having a better income to film more but it got shelved and there it sits. I am so inspired to go dig it out of storage right now and tighten the gate.
Having shot tons and tons of filmstock, it's always painful to lose footage to camera issues but you learn from each roll, good or bad.
I think everyone who has shot and worked creatively in film can relate to this. Thanks for sharing. I know those moments you thought you had captured are gone ...but there are equally as magical moments still waiting for you to capture (with the pressure plate firmly in place). Onward!
Thank you so much for sharing this experience. Take heart that you've probably saved dozens of future Bolex shooters from making the same mistake. Subbed.
That is just that "astigmatism" lens filter man! 💯
I couldn't stifle a chuckle at the 00:56 min mark. So subtle yet impactful.
Its actually the best tutorial I’ve seen so far on youtube. it explains to me that no matter how many informations you’ll have about 16mm, experience is experience & you can’t learn like a mathematical formula or sum - this is art & it require time & fails, so your tutorial is actually well done : fail & learn from it until you are closer to your vision, whatever it takes because yes you’ll lose time & money to you, but to the art’s perspective, you won something that nobody can afford.
I still cannot get over how much I truly enjoy watching your videos! I have watched most of them more than once!
Thank you so much
Thanks very much for this outstanding video! Marvelous!
During the short test run with the open camera I saw that the loop formers were still closed. In older models the closing of the lid does not automaticaly open the loop formers. This gives also an effect like you got.
I do believe these are the most beautiful talking head shots I've seen on youtube
I'm learning about Bolex cameras. Great music choices! I dig the loose pressure plate footage🙂
Shooting with a Bolex can be expensive. It sucks that you had that issue! I've had mixed results with my dad's old Bolex from under exposure to the film moving from side to side in the gate to the spring winding down causing the footage frame rate to look like a really old movie. It's trial and error and unfortunately expensive to purchase and process the film. The results can be lots of fun and exciting to actually be using film instead of digital. I've managed to make a couple of shorts that turned out mostly okay. I really like your lens adapter.
Clean the gate and the film chamber. Tighten the pressure plate screw. Send the test reel out for processing right away.
Got it! Thanks.
One of mine is: shoot on a full wind, not near the end.
This was “How not to Shoot 16mm” but was probably the most valuable video. No one mentioned this. I shot on Bolex in film school and didn’t know about this.
wait, wait, wait WHAT... WHAT is this intro montage? I need a full film on what's going on there
Ok for real though the messed up footage is pretty awesome in its own way
An honest account of how easy it is to have an unhappy experience in the early days of Bolex 16mm ownership. This video will have no doubt saved many Bolex 16mm users a considerable amount of money.
It doesn't do any harm to get into the habit of cleaning the pressure plate, gate area and loop formers prior to loading each film. As my eyes aren't as sharp as they used to be, I use a strong light and my iPhone to photograph the gate, and then zoom in on the image to check for those tiny gate hairs that sometimes photobomb a complete roll.
all the nature work you're doing is so calming
also, I'm convinced you're the kind of person Fleet Foxes makes music for haha
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a big Fleet Foxes fan :)
This is awesome sauceeeee!!! Amazing lighting on your end though (for your interview based set up)
Most cinematic mistake that I’ve ever seen😍😍
Beautiful, a good man will you show you his successes, a great man will tell you of his failures, and how not to hit the same trap. Bravo!
I'm back again. Man, 2:39 just activates to my nostalgia receptors & 4:42 feels like an archaeological expedition from the 40s. Screw what you didn't get, what you have is Amazing! The train at dawn shot also feels like the Days of Heaven scene with a train at dawn.
The production on this video is better then most Hollywood films
In Italy we have a saying: sbagliando si impara. Translated: you learn by making mistakes. Anyway spectacular work, the scenery you captured was amazing. As you did in the video, the rotten clips have a lofi vibe to them, maybe do a compilation with lofi music under the clips. About music what's that marvelous tune with the sliding guitar?
Commenting to help the algorithm because this is just the emotional rollercoaster my Wednesday needed and more people should see this.
thank you thank you :)
I would love to get a How to shoot with a Bolex H16 video and get to know how the camera works! but thanks for this one loved it!
Just stumbled across this. I think the "ruined" shots actually look cool. You could very easily use them as textural elements and cuts in another project, if you were to lean into it. Or heck, send them to me, I'd love to play around with them!
man I lOOOOVe Bolex, was my first 16mm motion picture film experience. Back before digital was the rage (pre Episode 1) and shooting on film was that first step closer to living the dream (filmmaking). Stressful, but wonderful. I will get my hands on one one day. Lovely video, really enjoyed the feelings it gave me watching, props Logan!
the cinematography of your videos are absolutely insane! would love to see how you colour grade your videos :)
Just stumbled across your channel and I can already tell this is one of those special channels that you find before they blow up. Can't wait to tell people I was subscribed before you got huge. Great video man and hope your future 16mm footage turns out better!
Thanks so much for watching and for the support!
Yep! Test roll. Sorry to hear your loss. Also, is your Rolex Super 16? I notice the aspect ratio.
Many things can cause shutter ghosting like this --- loop formers not opened; loss of a loop; pull down claw not engaging properly; not properly closed pressure plate; or a misaligned shutter.
dude the opening shot tho. i am amazed
Thanks! I recently got a Bolex 16mm and some film but havent shot it yet, because currently still in the process of working with my first scanned super8s, so the next step is definitely 16mm and this video really helped with something that I can now avoid and save time and money, thank you!
Logan you would make a superb actor.
Such a strong video. But also impressed at how calm you were after finding out those rolls were ruined. That kind of thing makes me wish the floor would eat me.
The Jurassic Park bit was HILARIOUS 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You and Brae are making me want to go out and buy a 16mm film camera. Great video always love watching your work!
Do itttttt
I describe every mistake I make as a learning experience. All about how you frame it.
Incredible video dude. One of most underrated creatives in this space imo
Holysht. Those colors.
Man I’m nervous and excited. I’m gonna shoot some black and white footage with a NON-reflex H16!
Now I’m a REX5 owner!
Hi Logan, this 30 sec. Intro is insane 🙏👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻. I've saw every 16mm you tube videos and 95% of these was (for me) just little better than super 8mm... (but 16mm should be a great format isn'it). How do you reach this incredible qualiy in this amazing intro? Thanks a lot for help.
P.s. I'm a film photographer and I'm wondering ti buy a Bolex h16 camera, your video is growing me this dream. Thank you.
you can tell me stuff about a spoon at this point, so hooked, great video about a mistake!
On the bright side 5:59 looks incredible with that defect
Thanks, Steven - I've definitely grown to like some of the messed up footage
idk i gotta say the “bad” footage has a pretty cool vibe whether it was intended or not
ITS ART! JUST ART! I LOVE IT.
These are the videos I don't mind ignoring my actual job to watch
It certainly looks like you could make an interesting and beautiful experimental tone poem from the damaged footage you’ve presented in this video.
We all make critical mistakes at times. Maybe it’s just how it’s supposed to go so something else can occur instead.
Can't wait for your guide on shooting 16mm next year.
I'm already scared to start working on that :)
I like your style a lot, super talented but I can tell you don't take yourself too seriously. Good work.
You dont have to be sad about these clips. In lala land there were also some shots with this effect, but on porpoise. And it looked stylistically great.
Nicely done. So many reasons to shoot digital but you do you. Shot film back in the day. Had access to an Arri
Make a psychological horror film with the “bad” footage!
Ah man, absolutely killer. Hats off to you for creating a killer video out of it though. Beautifully crafted. I definitely would have had a mental breakdown and never touched it again, so.
Incredibly put together video - props
I actually like these results . Thanks for sharing
Work of art, Logan!
Thank you!! I had a roll of regular 8mm come out just like this with the vertical pulling and I've been trying to understand why. The pressure plate it must be!
This footage makes me want to intentionally loosening the pressure plate. It’s gorgeous in my opinion
Really easy and enjoyable tutorial. Thanks!
Good Power Trip shirt.
Riley Forever.
Great video! I love the homage at the beginning.
What camera did you use for shooting the good clips on this video?
Similar thing happened to me, but I used the "defective" material artistically. 😉
So beautiful. Thanks for shooting
woah cool, i little cine something at the beginning. i like it!
Mind asking how you attached the NF on the Bolex?
Hey at least it looks like most of your exposure settings were correct.. 😉.
😂😂😂😂 Yes it herts! I know exactly how you feel!
Its the journy. Bravo. - AND... I actually kinda love the fucked up look. Theres a story in that.... Lots of people use a huge combo of digital filters to achieve a look like that. Think about it....
What is this amazing lens on the opening wide and ending wide?
What was this video filmed on?
gorgeous.
You should shoot on a Mercury Univex II sometime and see how it goes.
First 20 secs, OH MY GOD, thats de Bolex?
so you didn't close the plate at all for all those roll, and some turn out ok? or those turn out ok is those you close the plate?
the best videos
Great work!
Hey😊 what’s the name of the jazz song at the end of the video?
I dont get how you ONLY have 6k subs
Fantastic video, such a nice vibe. What’s that first song that you used?
What's that marvelous tune with the sliding guitar? - ...and: your video is told very nicely.
Can you film a copy of easy rider the movie(cd) onto 16mm film?
Do you have any full length 16mm movies for sale?
I run a club and we have a working 16mm projector and a couple of 16mm cartoons.
I am searching for a full length movie.
Nice one, I love it 👍
that intro lmao
Keep fighting 🖤
5:35 The video is great, what equipment was used to shoot it ？
Thank you! I used the BMPCC6K
what was the song that played at 1:26?
Love ur videos, which camera do you use for the film stuff?
the poetry of mistakes
DUDE!
I don’t buy it. If everything was in order with the camera, you shouldn’t be able to close the lid with the pressure plate unit not seated properly. Its spring-loaded chrome plated knob will take place in an opening of the lid. Being a professional film motion-picture equipment technician I see a number of anomalies and a few things that pose questions. Why, for instance, do you use a stills photography lens, a 24 mm wide angle, via adapter when the camera is made for smaller and lighter C-mount optics? The camera also wiggles on the tripod. My recommendation for cleaning the film chamber would be different. The streaky images point to a mistiming between shutter and claw rather than the pressure plate not in place. Do contact me, if you need assistance or want to have something serviced.
Yes the vertical streaking is the film in motion when the shutter is open, they are not in time. I don't understand how that could only happen on some footage though, if the camera mechanicals haven't been opened- unless it went out of time while you were using it. The frame registration (slight jumping of the image) seems worse than what I would expect to see from a good running Bolex, although registration was never great with them. I also have to wonder how precise the lens combo you cobbled together is working, even the good looking images seem soft. Shooting film well requires careful camera prep and testing. 16mm film can look great, but it takes a good deal of effort, experience, and failures like these to get it right. Hope you stick with it.
Are you doing it again?