Horrible criteria to consider for Sprint/T-Mobile in KC. The fact that it never attracted a tenant was a great thing. It was paid off 20 years early thanks to it being available for concerts and whatnot... it is the 4th most attended concert venue in the country. It isn't a drain on the taxpayers like the buildings that have a tenant. If you want a useless arena in KC, the former Kemper Arena still stands....
I think calling them "useless" is a little too strong of a term. I mean, they're still being used. Just because they don't have a major professional sports team as a regular tenant doesn't make them useless. They still host concerts and other events, or host a smaller sports team. A better term may be that they are "underutilized".
"Bit off more than they could chew" or "arenas that are better for not sports" like the Tacoma Dome which is a fantastic place to see a concert or a comedy show.
Fort Worth's new beautiful Dickies arena was built for RODEO, a maybe a future minor league ice hockey team although the old rodeo arena is more than sufficient in size. The Fort Worth Livestock Show and Rodeo is a 23 day event, the longest rodeo in the nation. ruclips.net/video/kydCND98Occ/видео.html
When you are talking about Freedom Hall in Kentucky you have a picture of the Freedom Hall that is located in Johnson City Tennessee. Which is the home of UNCG's conference opponent East Tennessee State University.
I live in Tulsa and the BOK Center is awesome. We get lots of concerts, NCAA events, and other type shows. Arenas can be used for more than pro sports. It was built knowing we wouldn’t get a pro team.
Plus the ECHL is the AA level minor league for ice hockey, the AHL being the AAA level minor league for ice hockey. Maybe half this size is more suitable for minor league ice hockey, but desiring to land major music concerts required one this size...
@@franknichols3440 I live in Okc too. Paycom was built for sports, BOK was built for multipurpose events. Paycom actually was built with the hope of bringing a hockey or basketball team (and succeeded) Tulsa just doesn’t have the pull but I would love if Tulsa got like a pro hockey team or something that way both cities can be supported
FYI. The T-Mobile Center is the 4th most booked arena in the country. Some groups do not want a staple tenant for this arena because of this. It is gorgeous as well.
Lets throw in the Arena the Arizona Coyotes abandoned in Glendale. Which is now Desert Diamond Arena. I recently looked at the event schedule for this Arena being I used to work in the building. There isn't much going on there and in my eyes, just under 20 years of it being open it's sadly dying. I did think about getting rehired there but after looking at the lack of events because of no hockey, there really isn't any work and would be pointless!
You can add the Cow Palace in San Francisco. (Technically it’s in Daly City, just south of San Francisco.) Opened in 1941, it hosted the Warriors in 1962-64 and then again from 1966-71. Now it survives by leasing its parking lot. The current calendar on its website lists one event for July, the Low Rider Car Show, and one for August, La Fiesta Del Mariachi.
I went to an AEW show there in March, and there was a good crowd there. They still host the Grand National Rodeo which is an excellent box seat if you can get one. The Cow Palace hasn't hosted any sports team since 2014, because hockey goes to die there. And it's much easier for a Semi-Pro/Minor league basketball team to play at Kezar Pavilion instead of the Cow Palace.
1964 Republican Convention was there. It's owned by California Department of Agriculture. So, it's like a fairgrounds. It won't be updated. Also, much of the parking lot has already been converted to housing.
The Tacoma dome is actually in almost comstant use. It hosts all of the state high school state championships, concerts, and rv shows. The problem with remodeling it is that it is made out of wood so it cant get heavier or it will collapse.
@@scotttildI went to Elton John there and I was actually impressed. You certainly need a good production team with a large sound system though. They’ve also upgraded the seats and the team/backstage facilities. If they had a JumboTron I guarantee it would be used far more. To me, I think it’s very function over form, but I like it for what it is. I just can’t figure out why people ever complain about it. A cool fact: the wood was reclaimed from trees that were downed by the 1980 eruption of Mount St. Helens, which is nearby. With all the work going into that place, I doubt they will ever get rid of that place. It’s actually become iconic in our area for what it is.
I recalled the Carolina Hurricanes played like 2 seasons in Greensboro as their new arena in Raleigh was being built. So many empty seats even Hurricanes man pleaded fans to "please come to our games" it is a good 2 hr drive to get there.
It was cool- as a temporary home, it did the job, but unless you're a major market or hosting playoff games (see: `96 Lightning), it's very hard to draw 25,000 for NHL games regularly.
I think calling them "useless" is a little too strong of a term. I mean, they're still being used. Just because they don't have a major professional sports team as a regular tenant doesn't make them useless. They still host concerts and other events or host a smaller sports team. A better term may be that they are "underutilized". Having the BOK Center on the list is a joke. The arena has been consistently named one of the top arenas in the country & the world. It has been a massive financial success for the city of Tulsa & has brought acts to the city that previously skipped the area. U2 began their last tour at BOK, Bruce Springsteen, Garth Brooks, Celine Dion,...... have all performed there. It has hosted multiple NCAA tournaments and NBA & NHL exhibition games. The Tacoma Dome or Oakland Arena belong on the list, Bank of Oklahoma Center doesn't. Your criteria for an arena having to host a pro team is severely flawed...Let's throw in the Arena the Arizona Coyotes abandoned in Glendale. Which is now Desert Diamond Arena. I recently looked at the event schedule for this Arena being I used to work in the building. There isn't much going on there and in my eyes, just under 20 years of it being open it's sadly dying. I did think about getting rehired there but after looking at the lack of events because of no hockey, there really isn't any work, and would be pointless! The Tacoma dome is actually in almost constant use. It hosts all of the state high school state championships, concerts, and RV shows. The problem with remodeling it is that it is made out of wood so it can't get heavier or it will collapse. You can add the Cow Palace in San Francisco. (Technically it’s in Daly City, just south of San Francisco.) Opened in 1941, it hosted the Warriors in 1962-64 and then again from 1966-71. Now it survives by leasing its parking lot. The current calendar on its website lists one event for July, the Low Rider Car Show, and one for August, La Fiesta Del Mariachi. The Greensboro Coliseum isn't necessarily "useless", it is just old, and it has served its purpose many times over. It was a centralized location for all of the schools in the ACC and was a perfect place for them to hold their basketball tournament. It was a very important arena, back when the ACC was a basketball-crazy, powerhouse of a conference. I recalled the Carolina Hurricanes played 2 seasons in Greensboro as their new arena in Raleigh was being built. So many empty seats even Hurricanes Man pleaded with fans to "please come to our games" It is a good 2 hr drive to get there. I live in Tulsa and the BOK Center is awesome. We get lots of concerts, NCAA events, and other types of shows. Arenas can be used for more than pro sports. It was built knowing we wouldn’t get a pro team is done like in Confirmed.
The BOK Center was never intended to be the home of a sports team. It was built for concerts and special events and it sometimes will host a part of the NCAA basketball tournament and the OKC Thunder usually play a few games there each year
I would put Nassau Coliseum on this list too. Once UBS Arena opened up, Nassau Coliseum has really been sitting there empty. Outside of hosting a G League team and a lacrosse team, nothing goes there.
@Rick Bouze the two tenants that play there barely get a crowd to any of the games. The teanets that do play there can easily play elsewhere. Most big events go to UBS arena now. Outside of some small concerts or low profile shows.
As a Warriors fan, I have had many wonderful memories seeing games at Oakland Arena (it’s also really really hard for me not to call it Oracle). I remember my first time going there was for a Ringling Brothers concert when I was 5. Then in 2012 I watched my first NBA game there where the Warriors beat the Wizards by like 20 points. I remember it was a pretty nice, well kept up arena and I don’t remember it showing age in any way (unlike the Coliseum next door). I think the diamond design on the exterior is quite iconic, even a bit timeless. It’s just sad seeing that arena go from “Roaracle” to being pretty much abandoned now with no teams playing there. Its just sort of forgotten about nowadays. Especially when you think about the situation with the Coliseum that is in the same complex. There was supposed to be an Indoor Football League team playing there but plans for that fell though and they’re playing in San Jose now. I really hope Oakland gets a WNBA franchise sometime soon. Oakland Arena would be a perfect location for them. It would also help give the arena new life.
Having the BOK Center on the list is a joke. The arena has been consistently named one of the top arenas in the country & the world. It has been a massive financial success for the city of Tulsa & has brought acts to the city that previously skipped the area. U2 began their last tour at BOK, Bruce Springsteen, Garth Brooks, Celine Dion,...... have all performed there. It has hosted multiple NCAA tournaments, NBA & NHL exhibition games. The Tacoma Dome or Oakland Arena belong on the list, Bank of Oklahoma Center doesn't. Your criteria of an arena having to host a pro team is severely flawed....
The Greensboro Coliseum isn't necessarily "useless", it is just old, and it has served it purpose many times over. It was a centralized location for the all of the schools in the ACC, and was a perfect place for them to hold their basketball tournament. It was a very important arena, back when the ACC was a basketball crazy, powerhouse of a conference.
@dakeved : "It was a centralized location for all of the schools located in the state of North Carolina that were a part of the ACC". There, I fixed that for you. Having a monopoly on the ACC Tournament each year that all but guaranteed that Duke or UNC made the final each year killed the league. There were multiple reasons a founding member of the ACC, the University of Maryland, left for the Big Ten a decade ago. Now the ACC is about to dissolve completely and a big reason why is the nepotism of the league providing distinct advantages to the NC schools. Now you'll have nothing, much like Greensboro Coliseum itself.
Warriors old building was a classic IMO. It had just a nice atmosphere to watch a game. New building is like a hospital or corporate office, It is nice looking but just has a dreadful feel to it IMO. The portal thing really is absurd.
Wow. I’ve was about to unsubscribe when you spoke about the Greensboro Coliseum. You need to do a video on it. It’s basically known as the southern Madison Square Garden of the south. At one point many people called it as such. It’s historical.
I like the Oakland Coliseum and Oracle Arena. They shouldn t knock those places down. Instead they should knock your dump house down instead Depressed Ginger
For the love of God, can you learn the difference between Stadium and Arena? They are not interchangeable terms. Arenas (like the t-mobile centre) are NOT stadiums. But the Tacoma Dome IS a stadium. So It shouldn't even be on this list. As for the ECHL, it is the AA version of a developmental/farm system hockey league to the NHL.
T-Mobile center is a beautiful building and a great place to watch almost anything far from useless definitely underutilized also it was the clear inspiration for the Tottenham Hotspur stadium they just built it was designed by the same architects firm and I have to say that too is a beautiful building
Desert Diamond Arena in Glendale used to house the Arizona Coyotes, but now they don’t have a tenant. I still like to go and revisit the arena when I can.
The Coyotes were kicked out of the arena in Glendale because they fell so far behind on their rent and other bills. Glendale finally said "fuck this" and gave them the boot.
CFG Bank Arena here in Baltimore just reopened a month or two ago after a major renovation. Currently has no sports tennants. Previously held the Baltimore Blast who are currently playing in the Secu Arena on the campus of Towson University, Baltimore Bullets who are playing in the Capital One Arena as the Washington Wizards in Chinatown in DC, and had many American Hockey League teams.
It's been about 20-25 years since I saw a WWE Raw (or maybe Smackdown) show at that place, but wasn't it previously known as the Baltimore Arena? I'd say it was pretty useless then, especially after the AHL team left town.
Greensboro Coliseum is fine as is and where it's at. No professional team is moving to the Piedmont Triad. Too small. It has hosted many legendary WCW and WWE events and tons of concerts as well.
I don’t think the Greensboro Coliseum is “useless” because the fact the ACC headquarters is there, but their HQ is moving to Charlotte. The Tacoma Dome is known more as a concert venue. The funny thing is the roof is made out of wood.
Oakland Arena is actually more profitable since the Warriors left. The Warriors had a great/cheap lease. With the Warriors gone, the Arena is now able to sell concert/event tickets for 41+ additional dates.
tbf to the BOK Center, it is serving the purpose it was built for. It was built in response to Paycom going up in OKC to attract better concerts and shows, and it did succeed there. The goal was to be a top tier concert venue and it did very much succeed there, often getting bigger shows than Paycom. It also hosted the NCAA wrestling championship this past year, often hosts some NCAA tournament games, a couple OU-Arkansas basketball games, and normally one preseason Thunder game a year. It doesn't have any big permanent tenants but it was never supposed to.
As an Okc resident this is true. Paycom is the better sports venue but BOK blows Paycom out of the water in concerts. It’s a lot nicer and definitely made for multipurpose events. OKC’s Paycom was made with sports in mind first. However I would love to see Tulsa get a hockey team despite that seeming unrealistic. It’d be cool to have the NBA in OKC and the NHL in Tulsa. Both cities would get major support
The most useless Arena is the Richmond Coliseum in Richmond, VA. If you thought The Diamond is bad, the Richmond Coliseum is much worse. It's been sitting abandoned waiting demolition the past few years because Richmond didn't want to maintain it and acts didn't want to book it.
Sullivan arena in Anchorage alaska is pretty useless right now. It was home to a semi pro hockey team but it left in 2017 I think. It used to host the great alaska shootout but it ended in 2017, it used to host everything but it got replaced by alaska airlines center. Now it's used as a homeless shelter but that's getting shut down. Now it's almost rotting.
Oakland arena is a great looking arena it aged like wine. It also went through a major renovation the warriors made the the city of Oakland pay for just to leave the city high and dry
Those major renovations were before the current ownership took control and decided to build in SF. They had some minor improvements done but nothing major. The City owns the building so they have to maintain it. Not all sports teams own their own buildings. Cities have obligations if they own a building and are collecting rent. Can't blame the teams.
I was thinking that too, for being built in 1966, it was an architectural marvel at the time of construction. Vast majority of Arenas built between WWII and the 90's barely had any glass at all, never mind most of the whole exterior being glass.
BOK Center in Tulsa hosts a lot of concerts. Paul McCartney, Bruce Springsteen, and Foo Fighters are just some acts who have played there. It seems like Tulsa gets more big concerts than OKC. From a sports point of view, I agree that it's underutilized and may never get an NBA or NHL team (Tulsa's WNBA team left a long time ago).
The Tulsa Oilers (ECHL) are also based there. I just wish they would play in a little smaller venue. Going to several of their games, they have Mark off parts of the upper deck though!
@@Boi-xc4dk Isn't there an arena in Norman, though, that's on or near the OU campus? If so, I'd assume that the OKC metro area could get arena concerts while the arena where the Thunder play is otherwise occupied.
Greensboro Swarm (NBA GLeague) doesn't play in the main coliseum - they play in the adjacent Fieldhouse, a much smaller venue. The Carolina Cobras do use the main coliseum, and I think fill about 10% of the seating capacity.
You left out the Long Beach Arena and Anaheim Arena (formerly Convention Center) in California, about 20 miles apart. Both were built in the 1960s, haven't had any major upgrades, and hasn't had any sports teams there for years.
Add SNHU arena in Manchester, NH to this lost. They haven't had an ECHL team in 5 years. 11,000 for hockey. Here's the shows they get. Holiday Boston Pops, Monster Trucks, Harlem Globe Trotters, and 1-2 concerts. What a waste of an arena. This place use to be packed.
Honestly the OKC Thunder G-League affiliate should move to Tulsa and use the BOK Center as their home stadium. If I'm not mistaken they currently play in OKC.
Nycb Nassau coliseum Was remodeled to attract concerts and the circus....its opening night tenant...the last ever Ringling bros circus...can I get a DOH! Had the isles back for a year and a half cuz barclays can't fit a hockey rink so it did have some luck...but with opening of UBS arena right on the queens County line (and with direct lirr and ny bus access for fans from queens) bye bye winter concerts (summer concerts already were a no go dating back to the arenas first opening due to the 15k seat Jones Beach amphitheater 10 miles straight down the Meadowbrook which is a superior and go to summer concert venue hosting up to 4 shows a week in peak summer months) and its only major tenants is...a G league team that draws maybe 4k tops...oh to be 5th of 5 12k plus arenas in the ny metro...they don't even get the college team next door hofstra who is happy in their well sized 5k gym yeah...shoulda been torn down when isles left but there was an outcry and they did get a huge kiss of life when Barclay's proved unviable for hockey but with ubs thriving its time for the moseluem to finally you know...die
Memorial Coliseum in Portland is useless. It's basically there for budget concerts now. It is literally a stone's throw from the Rose Garden/Moda Center.
Echl games are fun. The colorado eagles in loveland used to be in the echl before transferring to the ahl. There was always high attendance. So i wouldn't call the bok arena useless
@@rockvilleraven also at the acc tournament they didnt sell alcohol so it had a nice family atomosphere and people were there for the basketball or for the team and not to get drunk
Arenas are capable of hosting events other than NBA and NHL games. The BOK Center and TMoble Center in particular have been very successful as concert venues. To say that they are “useless” because they do not host a major league sports team is ignorant and arrogant.
Horrible criteria to consider for Sprint/T-Mobile in KC. The fact that it never attracted a tenant was a great thing. It was paid off 20 years early thanks to it being available for concerts and whatnot... it is the 4th most attended concert venue in the country. It isn't a drain on the taxpayers like the buildings that have a tenant. If you want a useless arena in KC, the former Kemper Arena still stands....
I think calling them "useless" is a little too strong of a term. I mean, they're still being used. Just because they don't have a major professional sports team as a regular tenant doesn't make them useless. They still host concerts and other events, or host a smaller sports team. A better term may be that they are "underutilized".
In his defense he literally knows nothing about anything. He reads article headlines and looks at pictures. No substance.
"Bit off more than they could chew" or "arenas that are better for not sports" like the Tacoma Dome which is a fantastic place to see a concert or a comedy show.
You're right, "Under-used" or "random" or "old arenas still in use" would be make more sense
Fort Worth's new beautiful Dickies arena was built for RODEO, a maybe a future minor league ice hockey team although the old rodeo arena is more than sufficient in size. The Fort Worth Livestock Show and Rodeo is a 23 day event, the longest rodeo in the nation. ruclips.net/video/kydCND98Occ/видео.html
@@johnlubarski8006 he puts out 4 videos a day...accuracy isn't always spot on but he can occasionally swerve into the truth
When you are talking about Freedom Hall in Kentucky you have a picture of the Freedom Hall that is located in Johnson City Tennessee. Which is the home of UNCG's conference opponent East Tennessee State University.
I live in Tulsa and the BOK Center is awesome. We get lots of concerts, NCAA events, and other type shows. Arenas can be used for more than pro sports. It was built knowing we wouldn’t get a pro team.
Plus the ECHL is the AA level minor league for ice hockey, the AHL being the AAA level minor league for ice hockey. Maybe half this size is more suitable for minor league ice hockey, but desiring to land major music concerts required one this size...
Agreed. I live in OKC and I always see the bigger shows going to the BOK. I HATE that building for hockey but it is gorgeous
Hell I don’t live in Tulsa, I live in California and even I can see that Tulsa’s arena BOK Center is a good investment for the community.
@@franknichols3440 I live in Okc too. Paycom was built for sports, BOK was built for multipurpose events. Paycom actually was built with the hope of bringing a hockey or basketball team (and succeeded) Tulsa just doesn’t have the pull but I would love if Tulsa got like a pro hockey team or something that way both cities can be supported
FYI. The T-Mobile Center is the 4th most booked arena in the country. Some groups do not want a staple tenant for this arena because of this. It is gorgeous as well.
Lets throw in the Arena the Arizona Coyotes abandoned in Glendale. Which is now Desert Diamond Arena. I recently looked at the event schedule for this Arena being I used to work in the building. There isn't much going on there and in my eyes, just under 20 years of it being open it's sadly dying. I did think about getting rehired there but after looking at the lack of events because of no hockey, there really isn't any work and would be pointless!
You can add the Cow Palace in San Francisco. (Technically it’s in Daly City, just south of San Francisco.) Opened in 1941, it hosted the Warriors in 1962-64 and then again from 1966-71. Now it survives by leasing its parking lot. The current calendar on its website lists one event for July, the Low Rider Car Show, and one for August, La Fiesta Del Mariachi.
I went to an AEW show there in March, and there was a good crowd there. They still host the Grand National Rodeo which is an excellent box seat if you can get one. The Cow Palace hasn't hosted any sports team since 2014, because hockey goes to die there. And it's much easier for a Semi-Pro/Minor league basketball team to play at Kezar Pavilion instead of the Cow Palace.
1964 Republican Convention was there. It's owned by California Department of Agriculture. So, it's like a fairgrounds. It won't be updated. Also, much of the parking lot has already been converted to housing.
Before the Shark Tank (SAP Pavilion) was built in San Jose, the Sharks had to play their games in the Cow Palace.
IHL - San Francisco Spiders and AHL - San Francisco Bulls
@@SFTrafficObserver I thought the Bulls were in the ECHL
The Tacoma dome is actually in almost comstant use. It hosts all of the state high school state championships, concerts, and rv shows. The problem with remodeling it is that it is made out of wood so it cant get heavier or it will collapse.
It is a horrible place to go for a concert. It does host college football also from time to time.
@@scotttild I know, I've been disappointed every concert, I've gone to there
fun fact, there are probably 1000 homeless people living within a quarter mile radius of that first pic shown in this video lol
@bradybyork4642 yes, along pacific ave...
@@scotttildI went to Elton John there and I was actually impressed. You certainly need a good production team with a large sound system though. They’ve also upgraded the seats and the team/backstage facilities. If they had a JumboTron I guarantee it would be used far more. To me, I think it’s very function over form, but I like it for what it is. I just can’t figure out why people ever complain about it. A cool fact: the wood was reclaimed from trees that were downed by the 1980 eruption of Mount St. Helens, which is nearby. With all the work going into that place, I doubt they will ever get rid of that place. It’s actually become iconic in our area for what it is.
I recalled the Carolina Hurricanes played like 2 seasons in Greensboro as their new arena in Raleigh was being built. So many empty seats even Hurricanes man pleaded fans to "please come to our games" it is a good 2 hr drive to get there.
It was cool- as a temporary home, it did the job, but unless you're a major market or hosting playoff games (see: `96 Lightning), it's very hard to draw 25,000 for NHL games regularly.
I think calling them "useless" is a little too strong of a term. I mean, they're still being used. Just because they don't have a major professional sports team as a regular tenant doesn't make them useless. They still host concerts and other events or host a smaller sports team. A better term may be that they are "underutilized". Having the BOK Center on the list is a joke. The arena has been consistently named one of the top arenas in the country & the world. It has been a massive financial success for the city of Tulsa & has brought acts to the city that previously skipped the area. U2 began their last tour at BOK, Bruce Springsteen, Garth Brooks, Celine Dion,...... have all performed there. It has hosted multiple NCAA tournaments and NBA & NHL exhibition games. The Tacoma Dome or Oakland Arena belong on the list, Bank of Oklahoma Center doesn't. Your criteria for an arena having to host a pro team is severely flawed...Let's throw in the Arena the Arizona Coyotes abandoned in Glendale. Which is now Desert Diamond Arena. I recently looked at the event schedule for this Arena being I used to work in the building. There isn't much going on there and in my eyes, just under 20 years of it being open it's sadly dying. I did think about getting rehired there but after looking at the lack of events because of no hockey, there really isn't any work, and would be pointless! The Tacoma dome is actually in almost constant use. It hosts all of the state high school state championships, concerts, and RV shows. The problem with remodeling it is that it is made out of wood so it can't get heavier or it will collapse. You can add the Cow Palace in San Francisco. (Technically it’s in Daly City, just south of San Francisco.) Opened in 1941, it hosted the Warriors in 1962-64 and then again from 1966-71. Now it survives by leasing its parking lot. The current calendar on its website lists one event for July, the Low Rider Car Show, and one for August, La Fiesta Del Mariachi. The Greensboro Coliseum isn't necessarily "useless", it is just old, and it has served its purpose many times over. It was a centralized location for all of the schools in the ACC and was a perfect place for them to hold their basketball tournament. It was a very important arena, back when the ACC was a basketball-crazy, powerhouse of a conference. I recalled the Carolina Hurricanes played 2 seasons in Greensboro as their new arena in Raleigh was being built. So many empty seats even Hurricanes Man pleaded with fans to "please come to our games" It is a good 2 hr drive to get there. I live in Tulsa and the BOK Center is awesome. We get lots of concerts, NCAA events, and other types of shows. Arenas can be used for more than pro sports. It was built knowing we wouldn’t get a pro team is done like in Confirmed.
Half the arenas on this list is better than a lot of arenas in major cities. This video should be rename lease used arenas
The BOK Center was never intended to be the home of a sports team. It was built for concerts and special events and it sometimes will host a part of the NCAA basketball tournament and the OKC Thunder usually play a few games there each year
Tacoma Dome catches:
-Kraken went to Seat...
-Catoma Dome lol
The Tacoma Dome looks like a Bass Pro Shops.
Greensboro coliseum has hosted hundreds of pro wrestling shows in the past 40 yrs...it's a great venue
I would put Nassau Coliseum on this list too. Once UBS Arena opened up, Nassau Coliseum has really been sitting there empty. Outside of hosting a G League team and a lacrosse team, nothing goes there.
So there are tenants still using it so I wouldn't completely call it 'useless'
@Rick Bouze the two tenants that play there barely get a crowd to any of the games. The teanets that do play there can easily play elsewhere. Most big events go to UBS arena now. Outside of some small concerts or low profile shows.
Wwe used to go there several times per year back in the 80s-mid 2000s...now they go to Brooklyn mostly
@@erinmsomers or the Garden
3:24 the "Catoma" dome?😅😅😂😂😂
As a Warriors fan, I have had many wonderful memories seeing games at Oakland Arena (it’s also really really hard for me not to call it Oracle). I remember my first time going there was for a Ringling Brothers concert when I was 5. Then in 2012 I watched my first NBA game there where the Warriors beat the Wizards by like 20 points. I remember it was a pretty nice, well kept up arena and I don’t remember it showing age in any way (unlike the Coliseum next door). I think the diamond design on the exterior is quite iconic, even a bit timeless. It’s just sad seeing that arena go from “Roaracle” to being pretty much abandoned now with no teams playing there. Its just sort of forgotten about nowadays. Especially when you think about the situation with the Coliseum that is in the same complex. There was supposed to be an Indoor Football League team playing there but plans for that fell though and they’re playing in San Jose now. I really hope Oakland gets a WNBA franchise sometime soon. Oakland Arena would be a perfect location for them. It would also help give the arena new life.
Having the BOK Center on the list is a joke. The arena has been consistently named one of the top arenas in the country & the world. It has been a massive financial success for the city of Tulsa & has brought acts to the city that previously skipped the area. U2 began their last tour at BOK, Bruce Springsteen, Garth Brooks, Celine Dion,...... have all performed there. It has hosted multiple NCAA tournaments, NBA & NHL exhibition games. The Tacoma Dome or Oakland Arena belong on the list, Bank of Oklahoma Center doesn't. Your criteria of an arena having to host a pro team is severely flawed....
The Greensboro Coliseum isn't necessarily "useless", it is just old, and it has served it purpose many times over. It was a centralized location for the all of the schools in the ACC, and was a perfect place for them to hold their basketball tournament. It was a very important arena, back when the ACC was a basketball crazy, powerhouse of a conference.
I think that's the mark of a great venue. the ability to stand the test of time for generations
@@Iam123-i5j I agree wholeheartedly!
@dakeved : "It was a centralized location for all of the schools located in the state of North Carolina that were a part of the ACC". There, I fixed that for you. Having a monopoly on the ACC Tournament each year that all but guaranteed that Duke or UNC made the final each year killed the league. There were multiple reasons a founding member of the ACC, the University of Maryland, left for the Big Ten a decade ago. Now the ACC is about to dissolve completely and a big reason why is the nepotism of the league providing distinct advantages to the NC schools. Now you'll have nothing, much like Greensboro Coliseum itself.
To say nothing of the old ABA Carolina Cougars
Is that the same arena that hosted all those old NWA wrestling shows
What about the Gila River Arena, now known as desert diamond arena. It used to host the Arizona Coyotes.
Warriors old building was a classic IMO. It had just a nice atmosphere to watch a game. New building is like a hospital or corporate office, It is nice looking but just has a dreadful feel to it IMO. The portal thing really is absurd.
Wow. I’ve was about to unsubscribe when you spoke about the Greensboro Coliseum. You need to do a video on it. It’s basically known as the southern Madison Square Garden of the south. At one point many people called it as such. It’s historical.
I like the Oakland Coliseum and Oracle Arena. They shouldn t knock those places down. Instead they should knock your dump house down instead Depressed Ginger
3:24, "But the Catoma Dome"
For real lol wtf is wrong with this guy ?
Heritage Bank Center in Cincinnati is pretty useless all it has is the ECHL Cyclones and occasional concerts
3:24 “catoma dome” then dude keeps cutting the audio short and why does he talk that with so much emphasis? tf is it with this guy😂
The Greensboro Coliseum was the flagship facility of Jim Crockett Promotions back in the day. It hosted multiple Starrcade events.
That's what I was thinking. I was born in 84 and remember renting old NWA video tapes. Is that the arena Sting fought Flair to the time limit draw
For the love of God, can you learn the difference between Stadium and Arena? They are not interchangeable terms. Arenas (like the t-mobile centre) are NOT stadiums. But the Tacoma Dome IS a stadium. So It shouldn't even be on this list. As for the ECHL, it is the AA version of a developmental/farm system hockey league to the NHL.
The “Catoma Dome” 🤣
T-Mobile center is a beautiful building and a great place to watch almost anything far from useless definitely underutilized also it was the clear inspiration for the Tottenham Hotspur stadium they just built it was designed by the same architects firm and I have to say that too is a beautiful building
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The catoma dome 😂
Desert Diamond Arena in Glendale used to house the Arizona Coyotes, but now they don’t have a tenant. I still like to go and revisit the arena when I can.
Why don’t the coyotes play there anymore
The Coyotes were kicked out of the arena in Glendale because they fell so far behind on their rent and other bills. Glendale finally said "fuck this" and gave them the boot.
Catoma Dome?
CFG Bank Arena here in Baltimore just reopened a month or two ago after a major renovation. Currently has no sports tennants. Previously held the Baltimore Blast who are currently playing in the Secu Arena on the campus of Towson University, Baltimore Bullets who are playing in the Capital One Arena as the Washington Wizards in Chinatown in DC, and had many American Hockey League teams.
It's been about 20-25 years since I saw a WWE Raw (or maybe Smackdown) show at that place, but wasn't it previously known as the Baltimore Arena? I'd say it was pretty useless then, especially after the AHL team left town.
Greensboro Coliseum is fine as is and where it's at. No professional team is moving to the Piedmont Triad. Too small. It has hosted many legendary WCW and WWE events and tons of concerts as well.
I don’t think the Greensboro Coliseum is “useless” because the fact the ACC headquarters is there, but their HQ is moving to Charlotte.
The Tacoma Dome is known more as a concert venue. The funny thing is the roof is made out of wood.
Oakland Arena is actually more profitable since the Warriors left. The Warriors had a great/cheap lease. With the Warriors gone, the Arena is now able to sell concert/event tickets for 41+ additional dates.
Tacoma is in use alot. Was just remodled 2 years ago
Your voice is brutal to listen to.
I love your content and your takes on stadium architecture, keep it up! And don't be so depressed!
I would say the Gila River Arena in Arizona because it’s a relatively new arena that has no major sports tendant and is only used for concerts now
The Forum in LA too. But being in LA, it probably does actually have events to host.
Since Steve Ballmer owns both the Forum and the Intuit Dome, I fear that he might decide to have the Forum demolished once the new arena opens.
The Forum is a concert venue now, not a sports arena.
People still do magic shows? Lol
tbf to the BOK Center, it is serving the purpose it was built for. It was built in response to Paycom going up in OKC to attract better concerts and shows, and it did succeed there. The goal was to be a top tier concert venue and it did very much succeed there, often getting bigger shows than Paycom. It also hosted the NCAA wrestling championship this past year, often hosts some NCAA tournament games, a couple OU-Arkansas basketball games, and normally one preseason Thunder game a year. It doesn't have any big permanent tenants but it was never supposed to.
As an Okc resident this is true. Paycom is the better sports venue but BOK blows Paycom out of the water in concerts. It’s a lot nicer and definitely made for multipurpose events. OKC’s Paycom was made with sports in mind first. However I would love to see Tulsa get a hockey team despite that seeming unrealistic. It’d be cool to have the NBA in OKC and the NHL in Tulsa. Both cities would get major support
Following you logic, I would have included Veterans Memorial Coliseum in Portland, Oregon. No main tenants, situated right next to Moda Center, etc
The most useless Arena is the Richmond Coliseum in Richmond, VA. If you thought The Diamond is bad, the Richmond Coliseum is much worse. It's been sitting abandoned waiting demolition the past few years because Richmond didn't want to maintain it and acts didn't want to book it.
Oakland Arena hosting magic shows. Is it Sparky the Clown?
He said Magic Shows twice...what is he talking about.. lool
Of Course it's a Magic Show ,They Make the Audience Disappear.
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Sullivan arena in Anchorage alaska is pretty useless right now. It was home to a semi pro hockey team but it left in 2017 I think. It used to host the great alaska shootout but it ended in 2017, it used to host everything but it got replaced by alaska airlines center. Now it's used as a homeless shelter but that's getting shut down. Now it's almost rotting.
You can say the same thing about the whole state of Alaska 😅😅😅
oakland arena is not getting knocked down every redevelopment idea shown for that area shows the arena staying with the coliseum gone
I saw it happen.
Forgot the Izod center in the Meadowlands.
It's not being used as an arena anymore, it's a soundstage for TV shows and a practice arena for touring concert acts.
The Caps in the early 1980s almost were sold and moved to Tacoma, had that happen, they'd would have moved a few miles to Seattle eventually.
Forgot the Memorial Coliseum in Portland. National Historic property so they can’t tear it down.
Yeah, that was such a fucking stupid decision. Can't even be RENOVATED either, I don't believe.
Oakland arena is a great looking arena it aged like wine. It also went through a major renovation the warriors made the the city of Oakland pay for just to leave the city high and dry
Those major renovations were before the current ownership took control and decided to build in SF. They had some minor improvements done but nothing major. The City owns the building so they have to maintain it. Not all sports teams own their own buildings. Cities have obligations if they own a building and are collecting rent. Can't blame the teams.
The inside is 💩.
I was thinking that too, for being built in 1966, it was an architectural marvel at the time of construction. Vast majority of Arenas built between WWII and the 90's barely had any glass at all, never mind most of the whole exterior being glass.
BOK Center in Tulsa hosts a lot of concerts. Paul McCartney, Bruce Springsteen, and Foo Fighters are just some acts who have played there. It seems like Tulsa gets more big concerts than OKC. From a sports point of view, I agree that it's underutilized and may never get an NBA or NHL team (Tulsa's WNBA team left a long time ago).
We get more concerts because OKC has the Thunder occupying the arena
The Tulsa Oilers (ECHL) are also based there. I just wish they would play in a little smaller venue. Going to several of their games, they have Mark off parts of the upper deck though!
@@Boi-xc4dk Isn't there an arena in Norman, though, that's on or near the OU campus? If so, I'd assume that the OKC metro area could get arena concerts while the arena where the Thunder play is otherwise occupied.
@@moose2021 No, the OU basketball arena is aweful
@@Boi-xc4dk Ok. Not suitable for concerts, I assume. I wonder what OKC did for concerts before the Thunder's arena was built.
Wtf was the point in building Glendale Arena if they no longer have a sports team?
What about the Mid-South Coliseum in Memphis?
Greensboro Swarm (NBA GLeague) doesn't play in the main coliseum - they play in the adjacent Fieldhouse, a much smaller venue. The Carolina Cobras do use the main coliseum, and I think fill about 10% of the seating capacity.
If he's gonna do these videos, he needs to be spot on. Also, calling these arenas useless is kinda strong.
@@LoweDown414 and to also do his research on leagues teams play in. The ECHL is some rinky dink leave, it’s the AA of the NHL
Coliseum site is fan friendly with Bart station very close along with Interstate 880 so it's not embarrassing at all.
When I was a kid back in the late 70's I loved watching the Warriors on tv from their home arena. The loved the court and The Forum court.
They dont need to do anything to the tacoma dome it is a nice place so is the oakland arena
Did you have audio issues? there were words cut-off throughout the video. I notice many audio issues allover youtube right now.
You left out the Long Beach Arena and Anaheim Arena (formerly Convention Center) in California, about 20 miles apart. Both were built in the 1960s, haven't had any major upgrades, and hasn't had any sports teams there for years.
They don’t like to spend money
@@dreamcage1801 Both cities realized the arenas were obsolete and spent their money by attaching convention centers to them.
I was thinking about that too. The Forum in Inglewood could apply but it only does concerts now
Steve Balmer owns the forum he bought it from the People that own Madison Square Garden So I don’t think they’re doing anything with it
Add SNHU arena in Manchester, NH to this lost. They haven't had an ECHL team in 5 years. 11,000 for hockey. Here's the shows they get. Holiday Boston Pops, Monster Trucks, Harlem Globe Trotters, and 1-2 concerts. What a waste of an arena. This place use to be packed.
8:33 "Hey you want to go to an Oilers game?"
"sure!"... *gets to arena* "Wait I thought they played hockey."
Honestly the OKC Thunder G-League affiliate should move to Tulsa and use the BOK Center as their home stadium. If I'm not mistaken they currently play in OKC.
Nycb Nassau coliseum
Was remodeled to attract concerts and the circus....its opening night tenant...the last ever Ringling bros circus...can I get a DOH!
Had the isles back for a year and a half cuz barclays can't fit a hockey rink so it did have some luck...but with opening of UBS arena right on the queens County line (and with direct lirr and ny bus access for fans from queens) bye bye winter concerts (summer concerts already were a no go dating back to the arenas first opening due to the 15k seat Jones Beach amphitheater 10 miles straight down the Meadowbrook which is a superior and go to summer concert venue hosting up to 4 shows a week in peak summer months) and its only major tenants is...a G league team that draws maybe 4k tops...oh to be 5th of 5 12k plus arenas in the ny metro...they don't even get the college team next door hofstra who is happy in their well sized 5k gym yeah...shoulda been torn down when isles left but there was an outcry and they did get a huge kiss of life when Barclay's proved unviable for hockey but with ubs thriving its time for the moseluem to finally you know...die
Freedom Hall looks like a mall from outside… Like the Palace Of Auburn Hills.
The Dome in downtown St. Louis is still used for other events. But for sports, it's been basically obsolete since the Rams left.
Also the newly renovated CFG Bank Arena in Baltimore. Only going aftrer concerts and Entertaiment events.
CHI Health Center Omaha
I can’t imagine these arenas make money with no regular tenants, but I understand a city wanting a nice place hold larger events.
T-Mobile and the BOK Center are beautiful arenas that serve more than just sports. T Mobile is one of the busiest arenas in the country.
Magic shows?!?! 😂
There's debate in KC that commiting 45ish nights to a pro team may not help the bottom line
Memorial Coliseum in Portland is useless. It's basically there for budget concerts now. It is literally a stone's throw from the Rose Garden/Moda Center.
There's also the Meadowlands Arena, the former home of the New Jersey Devils and Nets. It doesn't even host any sporting events or concerts today.
Didn't they convert it into a sound stage for tv and film?
@@NYOlly15 yes, it's used to shoot TV shows.
Echl games are fun. The colorado eagles in loveland used to be in the echl before transferring to the ahl. There was always high attendance. So i wouldn't call the bok arena useless
ECHL east coast hockey league
NAL stands for National Arena League and the ECHL is a minor hockey league a level below the AHL
Something I don't understand is why Oakland doesn't tear down oracle snd build a baseball park there
Desert Diamond Arena in Glendale Az should be on this list
What about the forum in LA? No one plays there at all
concert venue, hasn't hosted sports or been configured to in 20+ years
So no pro sports makes a stadium “useless”? 😂
I disagree about greenboro, it is being used and it has a cozy feel to it
It was the temporary home of the Carolina Hurrican'es until the arena in Raliegh was finished.
@@rockvilleraven I liked how you could walk to your seat from the street in a couple of minutes. At MSG it akes a long walk to get inside
@@rockvilleraven also at the acc tournament they didnt sell alcohol so it had a nice family atomosphere and people were there for the basketball or for the team and not to get drunk
@@tpark2316 Used to be that way too in College Park at the University of Maryland. Now they try it to limit it.
Best college basketball arenas or football stadiums?
I’m surprised you didn’t throw San Diego Sports Arena in this.
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The term useless doesn’t even make since when they are technically being used 😂
Tmobile Center looks on the interior a lot like the Prudential Center in Newark
They should have torn down Oakland arena the day Jerry Garia died.
One arena I'm surprised wasn't in here was Cure Insurance Arena in Trenton, NJ.
Because it is Trenton new jersey
This commenter wouldn't know Trenton if it fell on him
Greensboro Coliseum did host the Carolina Hurricanes for a bit
ECHL used to be the East Coast Hockey League. Now it's a pseudo-acronym.
The ECHL is a hockey league. The NAL is an arena football league. Google is your friend and free.
Lol how is the Izod Center not on this list?
cause it's used for movie/TV as a soundstage.
@@robertl.andersonii5926 oh, I actually did not know that.
Greensboro hosted the 1974 Final Four, you know... 😏
Arenas are capable of hosting events other than NBA and NHL games. The BOK Center and TMoble Center in particular have been very successful as concert venues. To say that they are “useless” because they do not host a major league sports team is ignorant and arrogant.