Is There Really No Salvation Outside the Church?
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- Опубликовано: 23 сен 2018
- For centuries, the Catholic Church has proclaimed that there is no salvation outside of the Church. But what does that really mean?
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God bless all the Catholics trying to be more Catholic than the Catholic Church and slipping into schismatic mindsets (e.g. from being weary to outright rejection of the documents of Vatican II). Who want to be so stuck in their ways and minds that are not willing to listen to this video and humble themselves under the Teaching of the Church they claim to belong to. This inner division amongst Catholics is the most toxic and painful thing to witness. If we are Catholics we WILL listen to what the Church has to say and we WILL strive to grasp it's meaning, truth & accept it.
We will stop this second-guessing, schismatic mentality which at its core really has stopped believing that while yes, the devil has infiltrated into the Church, ultimately the Holy Spirit is guiding Her and certainly it's behind official, normative documents out of a Council.
What Br Casey has said is what y'all are repeating as well - there is no salvation outside the Church, outside of the Atonement of Christ and the fullness of grace it provided for all peoples. Some are actively receiving His redemption, some are indirectly (are you praying for them?). Those who KNOW about the Church's truth and reject it, are at risk to be lost if they persevere in that direction.
How many know that they know that they know, though? How many angry Protestants have really grasped it and still deny it? I believe not many. Certainly we should pray for them rather than throwing hell fire on them and feel self-righteous about it.
"God bless all the Catholics trying to be more Catholic than the Catholic Church and slipping into schismatic mindsets (e.g. from being weary to outright rejection of the documents of Vatican II). Who want to be so stuck in their ways and minds that are not willing to listen to this video and humble themselves under the Teaching of the Church they claim to belong to."
Sedevacantists come to mind. Good grief.
Amen!
None of the documents of the Second Vatican Council are infalible. St. Pope Paul VI says as much.
You are mistaken TpM: 'Neither is there salvation in any other. For there is no other name under heaven given to men, whereby we must be saved.' Acts 4 : 12. This is as Catholic as the Church gets. It is a defined Dogma of the Church, even in the New Order of pastoralised liturgies it remains binding.
Also, the Council of Florence taught as dogma that outside the Church there is no salvation. The Council of Vatican II never made any dogmatic proclamations, therefore not everything in that council is infallible (only that which had been infallible before the council). Again, St. Pope Paul VI said as much when he closed the council.
Orthodox Christian here, and I highly appreciate your videos. I pray we can find union again one day!
We never been saparated John 10:16. And other sheep I have which are not of this fold; them also I must bring, and they will hear My voice; and there will be one flock and one shepherd.
We are one in Christ.
Powow, if you sincerely concerned about Christian reunification, why don't you set an example for your fellow Orthodox and convert to Catholicism? Our Lady of Fatima prophesied that Russia would one day be converted to Catholicism---when that happens perhaps the Greeks, Serbs, Bulgarians, Rumanians, and other Orthodox will follow suit.
powowliofkd amen
shaz the ‘orthodox’ communities are dead. They are dead because they only follow the first 7 councils so they admit the Holy Spirit left them afterwards. They have died after they separation from Rome. They are unable to organise a pan orthodox council. The last attempt in 2016 was a disaster. The bishops of Moscow and Constantinople are enemies. The spirit of division is the spirit of satan, not of the Holy Spirit.
@@GeorgePenton-np9rh Why would we follow The russians?
That's it. I do not regret my recent Catholic conversion. This is exactly what I'm asking for a long time. Thank you.
I am not a Catholic, but I am a Christian. I stumbled on your channel one day while searching for articles on Christian apologetics. I really enjoy your videos, and it is clear to me that your ultimate goal is in glorifying Christ, and evangelizing a lost world. Thanks for the videos, and God bless you!
Catholics are Christians. Jesus started Catholic church. For whatever reason, you are not in it.
@@johnyang1420 I didn't say that Catholics aren't Christians. Don't try to stir up dissension where there isn't any.
by christian you mean protestant right? but true like you said catholics are christian but it sounds a tad bit rude phrasing it like that i don’t think u ment it in a bad way or anythign but i just wanted to say that it’s better to say i am protestant as both are christian
@@johnyang1420 And you are re-defining the word "Catholic" Lol The whole RCC does this to lay claim to everything. But the real catholicity of the church is the confession of who jesus is and the salvation that lies in him and him alone when we put out faith in him. That is the universal catholic truth of it all.
@@johnyang1420 You may say you’re Catholic but the way you speak to non-Catholics makes me believe you’re a false believer. Take the wooden beam out of your own eye first.
This is a very succinct explanation of a complex topic. CS Lewis talks about how atheists demand answers to complex questions but get mad when the answers are complex. Christians sometimes do the same thing with issues like salvation. There's no simple answer. We're not God and we don't get to decide who is saved and who is not. The mesaage of the Gospel may reach people through means we may not understand, and it's not our concern how God does that. Our job is to spread the Gospel and let God do the rest.
"I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life; No one comes to the Father except through me.". "Unless one is born of the Spirit and of Water, he cannot be saved".
We never judge individual cases, even our own, because there are subjective factors and hidden factors, but when speaking in general we can say that none but Catholics go to Heaven, except in truly extraordinary cases. For one thing, except for schismatics, non-Catholics are not eating Jesus' Body or drinking His Blood.
The main reason non-Catholics do not see the truth of Catholicism is because they really aren't looking for truth, they are only looking for something thst feels good. All a non-Catholic has to do is ask God, Dear Lord, of all the world's faiths and religions, which one do you want me in? and God would quickly show them that it is the Catholic religion. In my own case, I grew up Methodist. One night I asked God to show me which of the world's religions was the true religion, and that very night God showed me it was the Catholic religion. If non-Catholics do not convert it is their own fault.
"Ask and ypu shall receive. Seek and ye shall find. Knock, and the door shall be opened to you."
--Jesus
@@GeorgePenton-np9rh I'm currently Protestant, but for some reason I just sort of accepted it and never really researched much about the Catholic Church, until I had a conversation with a Catholic friend. I'm been watching a lot of videos and listening to a lot of podcasts, and I went to mass with that friend once, and it feels like the truth is there.
@@cubenerf May God bless you in your search for His truth.
Truth, that is what is important.
I like the anology of,
You're trying to cross a river. There are two paths, one that has fog to dense to see through and the other a bridge. We dont know if the way through the fog is safe and if you'll make it but it definitely is a possibility. We di know however that the bridge is a safe way across the river.
So why wouldnt you try to lead people to the bride so you know they will make it safe.
I'm a protestant but I am strongly thinking about coverting. I find that there are so many questions answered in Catholicism.
Your channel, Matt Fradd, Ascension Presents and Catholic Anwers have lead me to this and I cant thank you guys enough. God bless, much live to all
Hello there, you can also try watching Bishop Robert Barron's videos. May God bless you 😇
Yeah, I’ve been a Catholic whose been doubting the Church, but for literally EVERY question I had, I found an answer across multiple sources that affirm the Catholic position.
@@Weeegeee212 Same, I've been confused about some Catholic teachings and I'm Catholic
The bridge is the Holy Catholic Church and the foggy path is protestantism. Other religions like Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, Mormonism etc lead 100 percently to hell.
@@nikolai5058 Well I don't think that is one hundred percent true. Surely those who never knew the truth of Catholicism can't be punished if they tried to live the best life they knew how. God is merciful.
Something i learned from Cathechism:
God's salvation is a grace that must be allowed by men and women to enter their lives. If people denies it, salvation cannot restore you.
Something learned from scripture
God's salvation is a Gift that God gives to those who repent . The Holy Spirit is the one who pulls you in the direction of change. It is He that works in your life.
@@brucewmclaughlin9072 you are half correct. God's salvation is for everyone. When Jesus died, it was not for a select few. On the other hand, such gift, as you call it, should be accepted by individuals. God cannot override a person's free will. But through the Holy Spirit, he speaks and encourage everyone to come back to him. That is why Jesus said that all sins can be forgiven except when you grieve the Holy Spirit. Because when God speaks to you through the Holy Spirit and you deny it, how can His grace of salvation work in you?
@@acedelizo6430 That is why Jesus said that all sins can be forgiven except when you grieve the Holy Spirit.
Jesus said blasphemy of the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, not grieving the Holy Spirit . There is a difference.
Because when God speaks to you through the Holy Spirit and you deny it, how can His grace of salvation work in you?
Salvation is a gift not a product to work for . He who began a good work in you will carry it on to the day of completion does not sound like God gives up on the individual who initially repented but due to bad teaching or circumstances does not understand what the Spirit is saying. Too many believers are caught up parroting what they have been taught without full understanding .
@@brucewmclaughlin9072 on Blaspheme or grieving the Holy Spirit: Matthew 12:31 talks about blaspheming against the Holy Spirit. Ephesians 4:30 says grieve. Still, I hope you got the context of what I was saying. The blaspheming is not limited to verbal but since it pertains to God, it is called blasphemy according to commentaries of Bible experts. The context of that passage is God speaks to you His Truth through His Spirit and if you go against it, logically, how can you become repentant and let forgiveness enters your life?
regarding salvation and work. The salvation of men and women started with God. It didn't start with us. But God's salvation is not a passive thing. It is not "once [I'm] saved, [I'm] always saved". Didn't Jesus said, " And whoever does not carry their cross and follow me cannot be my disciple" (Luke 14:27). Didn't Jesus said, " "Not everyone who says to me, 'LORD, LORD,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven." (Matthew 7:21)?
Didn't Jesus followers said the same like James, who said, " Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead." James 2:17 (read James 2:14-26 for full context)
@@acedelizo6430 In regards to james that is written to the Jews not the gentiles or to believers . what is the works of God? faith without works is dead so we need to see what works actually means.
John 6:26 Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, you are looking for me, not because you saw the signs I performed but because you ate the loaves and had your fill. 27 Do not work for food that spoils, but for food that endures to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give you. For on him God the Father has placed his seal of approval.”
28 Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”
29 Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”
But God's salvation is not a passive thing. It is not "once [I'm] saved, [I'm] always saved".
Depends on what is saved does it not? OSAS is true if it refers to your spirit but definitely not your flesh. You must be born again = scriptural. You can be unborn of the spirit = not found in scripture.
But God's salvation is not a passive thing
Very true and Eph 2:10 says that God has plans for us . However we work because of the free gift of salvation ,not for the gift.
The next time one of your children grieves you make sure you take a gun out and shoot them? Blasphemy is attributing the works of God to satan , grieving is not blasphemy.
God speaks to you His Truth through His Spirit and if you go against it, logically, how can you become repentant and let forgiveness enters your life?
1 Cor 3:5 What then is Apollos? And what is Paul? They are servants through whom you believed, as the Lord has assigned to each his role. 6 I planted the seed and Apollos watered it, but God made it grow. 7 So neither he who plants nor he who waters is anything, but only God, who makes things grow.
The Holy spirit does not give up on the sinful person but continuously prompts them towards belief. Some just will not believe. regardless. Only two destinations after we die and the world only sees one.
Matthew 7:21 read the context and you will see what the people are guilty of.
Doctrine cannot change. What was true yesterday is truth today. PERIOD
Yes, nothing has changed. what he is saying is that the doctrines were put into a new form in order to adapt a better understanding of the doctrine in modern times. Our society changes so we have to adapt our understanding of what certain things meant in the past as opposed to today. it's all about context
Christian Lee truth is truth; our sacred beliefs are the same yesterday and today and forever.
@@josephcastillo298 Jesus said: If your eye is your ocasion of sin, gauge it out... Have you gauged yours out already? Jesus said: If your hand is your ocasion of sin, cut it off... Have you cut yours off yet? Catholics are not literalists then, are we? We try to understand the text in its con-text. Faith complements reason, and we have to be reasonable in our interptretations, no?
Esteban Moeller the Faith, the teachings DO NOT CHANGE. Anyone that tries to manipulate the teachings e.g. blessing gay “marriages” or changing the teaching on abortion, for example DO NOT come from God, they come from the devil himself!
@@josephcastillo298 Both Faith and reason are necessary to understand the *fullness of meaning* Down through the centuries, the Church has also grown in understanding. It is a fact that there is much deeper and wider understanding of the Scriptures today than 500 years ago. This is also the beauty of the Word of God - it is so rich and abundant, and that is why Christ said that man can not live from bread alone, but must be nourished by the Word of God.
We Catholics, even while we possess the Truth, cannot possibly claim to know ALL of the Truth regarding Christ, regarding our Faith. There is still so much to be learnt. Therefore, our doctrines are expanded as our understanding expands over the centuries.
As an evangelical christian I enjoy watching your videos. I pray the Lord continues to bless your ministry.
Good to see a fellow evangelical supporting this :) God bless you
God bless you sir!
They are Protestants this guy and the Novus Ordo sect are NOT catholic!
Don't listen to them, there is NO salvation outside the real Catholic Church and you will lose your soul if you follow the advice of their fake Catholic Church.
He's a heretic. I watch his videos to come up with answers to his false statements
“The Lord saves who He Wills” not ours to judge!
Amen.
The Lord already declared infallibly Extra ecclessiam nulla sullus. He will save Baptisted Roman Catholics.
@@FirstNameLastName-is6yb He will save anyone that comes to Him with forgiveness and a repentant heart. That is all we need to do. Anyone!! There is not a word about baptism to be saved anywhere in the Gospels. We are saved and then baptized.
@Colonel Commie Nope it is not. Catholics still say you must work for salvation. Jesus never said that. The Catholic church says you must be baptized into the church to be saved. Jesus never said that. To be saved you must come to Him and ask for forgiveness, then you must repent of those sins. That is all you need to do.
@Colonel Commie If you were to put down what is around it you would see that faith started those works. Works alone ion garbage. Faith without works is useless. Faith comes first then works. These works were not done for salvation. They were for the faith they had in God.
I've been studying in Catholic schools all my life. We were taught that only those who actively reject Christ and His teachings even after they've experienced the light of His Gospel are liable to go to hell for their disbelief. It's irrational to expect people to convert to Catholicism just because they've heard of it. As Bro. Casey has mentioned in another video "No one has ever converted to Christianity because they lost an argument. Conversions happen only when a person has felt God's presence in his personal life." Therefore, those who have not yet had the opportunity to experience the light of Christ in their lives won't be doomed to hell for as long as they live reasonably good lives.
Ignatian Templar Completely agree. Also, I think sometimes we miss the point that we simply do not do enough to draw people in in the first place.
Drich, what you have been taught is only partially true. Every human has the duty to search for the truth. And to anyone who merely asks God to show him or her the truth, God will show them that it is Catholicism. That's all that I did. I have making this argument for years and a couple of years ago I found out that St. Augustine, a convert, said the same thing.
If non-Catholics would ask they would receive. If they sought they would find. If they knocked the door would be opened to them. If they fail they have no one to blame but themselves.
This is crazy. It's a dogma. You can't just undogmatise dogma because you don't think it's moral. That just makes you a Protestant.
Yes, it is saying you need formal enrollment. "No one, let his almsgiving be as great as it may, no one, even if he pour out his blood for the Name of Christ, can be saved, unless he remain within the bosom and the unity of the Catholic Church.” (Pope Eugene IV, the Bull Cantate Domino, 1441.) This meets all requirements to be an Infallible statement.
@@FirstNameLastName-is6yb The pope not the catholic church died for anyone's sins. Christ is the only way.
@@FirstNameLastName-is6yb they are insane liberals
The Creed of St. Athanasius (Athanasian Creed or Quicumque Vult)
Whoever wishes to be saved must, above all, keep the Catholic faith.
For unless a person keeps this faith whole and entire, he will undoubtedly be lost forever.
This is what the Catholic faith teaches: we worship one God in the Trinity and the Trinity in unity.
Neither confounding the Persons, nor dividing the substance.
For there is one person of the Father, another of the Son, another of the Holy Spirit.
But the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit have one divinity, equal glory, and coeternal majesty.
What the Father is, the Son is, and the Holy Spirit is.
The Father is uncreated, the Son is uncreated, and the Holy Spirit is uncreated.
The Father is boundless, the Son is boundless, and the Holy Spirit is boundless.
The Father is eternal, the Son is eternal, and the Holy Spirit is eternal.
Nevertheless, there are not three eternal beings, but one eternal being.
So there are not three uncreated beings, nor three boundless beings, but one uncreated being and one boundless being.
Likewise, the Father is omnipotent, the Son is omnipotent, the Holy Spirit is omnipotent.
Yet there are not three omnipotent beings, but one omnipotent being.
Thus the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God.
However, there are not three gods, but one God.
The Father is Lord, the Son is Lord, and the Holy Spirit is Lord.
However, there as not three lords, but one Lord.
For as we are obliged by Christian truth to acknowledge every Person singly to be God and Lord, so too are we forbidden by the Catholic religion to say that there are three Gods or Lords.
The Father was not made, nor created, nor generated by anyone.
The Son is not made, nor created, but begotten by the Father alone.
The Holy Spirit is not made, nor created, nor generated, but proceeds from the Father and the Son.
There is, then, one Father, not three Fathers; one Son, not three sons; one Holy Spirit, not three holy spirits.
In this Trinity, there is nothing before or after, nothing greater or less. The entire three Persons are coeternal and coequal with one another.
So that in all things, as is has been said above, the Unity is to be worshipped in Trinity and the Trinity in Unity.
He, therefore, who wishes to be saved, must believe thus about the Trinity.
It is also necessary for eternal salvation that he believes steadfastly in the incarnation of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Thus the right faith is that we believe and confess that our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is both God and man.
As God, He was begotten of the substance of the Father before time; as man, He was born in time of the substance of His Mother.
He is perfect God; and He is perfect man, with a rational soul and human flesh.
He is equal to the Father in His divinity, but inferior to the Father in His humanity.
Although He is God and man, He is not two, but one Christ.
And He is one, not because His divinity was changed into flesh, but because His humanity was assumed unto God.
He is one, not by a mingling of substances, but by unity of person.
As a rational soul and flesh are one man: so God and man are one Christ.
He died for our salvation, descended into hell, and rose from the dead on the third day.
He ascended into heaven, sits at the right hand of God the Father almighty. From there He shall come to judge the living and the dead.
At His coming, all men are to arise with their own bodies; and they are to give an account of their own deeds.
Those who have done good deeds will go into eternal life; those who have done evil will go into the everlasting fire.
This is the Catholic faith. Every person must believe it, firmly and steadfastly; otherwise he cannot be saved.
Amen.
God in His infinite Mercy and Love (which is beyond the understanding of all creatures) will not exclude from His Kingdom those who have never had the chance to know & understand the Faith. THink about the millions of people alive today, in all kinds of situations, in society or in the jungle, who have never heard of God, of Jesus Christ.
Catholicism is not a club of "lucky" people who just somehow happened to be born into a Catholic family or society and were "lucky" enough to maintain their faith.
God is not a "club director" for the elite and lucky few - He is way, way beyond our understanding and knowledge. We little mortals can never with absolute certainty, pin down any condition on God.
Who is saved and who is not is ultimately between God and each single individual.
I love this Creed. St. Athanasius is my patron who I have greatly leaned on in my journey of trying to find truth by separating the ambitions of man and the divine truth of God. This made me feel at home in the Catholic Church.
@@1sola1verita40 God explicitly states in the Bible u have to be baptized and be a follower of Christ to enter heaven. Those who do not know him will not be judged for not knowing him, but it doesnt mean they will go go heaven. You must be baptized by water, of by blood or desire.
@@kylespectra6685 ... Do you mean they go to Purgatory? or what? I'm not sure if I understand you correctly....
@@1sola1verita40 No. I mean that those that have not heard God out of invincible ignorance, will not be judged for not hearing God, but that does not mean they will go to heaven. You have to, as St. Thomas Aquinas, the prince of theologians, says, no the Trinity explicitly, and Christ in order to be saved. You must also, as all the Church Father state be baptized.
Ever heard of the Council of Jerusalem? It was a Council in Acts 15 where the Apostles conveyed and decided a Christian did not have to obey the Mosaic ceremonial law like not eating pork, and worshipping in the temple, etc. Acts 16 says that the Apostles passed the decrees out to other Christians, the Greek word there being dogmata, to which, we get the word, dogma.
In that same sense, in Vatican I, in the profession of faith, we must go with the unanimity of the Fathers on all matter concerning faith and morals. And this is binding to all Catholics to follow. Holy scripture, by itself affirms one needs to be baptized to be saved, but all the Church's theologians, including all the Holy Fathers all affirmed that you had to be baptized in order to be saved. You can by baptized by water, as our Lord commands in John 3:5.
And you can be baptized by having a desire for baptism, along with perfect contrition for God and charity, as well as love for God in order to be saved. You can also be baptized by blood, where you aren't baptized by water, but martyrdom counts as a baptism since you died for Christ.
Those people, who with invincible ignorance, still attempting to conform themselves to the will of God, and following their conscience will be able to get the grace required to be baptized, andGod will reveal to them the explicit mysteries of the Trinity either before they die, or by a priest, angel, or something else; but no one who enters heaven, while on Earth, never knew Christ explicitly, or the Trinity explicitly, and were never baptized. This has been the Church's consistent teaching going back to before the Council of Nicaea.
And this is one sticking point against the Catholic Church. They don't seem to be willing to affirm both doctrines simultaneously:
1. Christianity is the path to salvation in a way that faiths like Judaism, Islam, Buddhism do not.
2. Both Eastern Orthodoxy and Protestantism are legitimately Christian in a way that sects like Mormonism are not.
Neither of those are doctrines of the Church.
Merry Christmas! And Happy New Year folks! Fr Casey, hope you’re having a wonderful week? Go Dawgs!
Thank you Brother for this video.
It helped me to "refresh" my theological studies (I graduated in 2016).
Mostly, thank you for your precious ministry. You are in my prayers. God bless!
"I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." - Jesus. With all due respect as a Catholic, I think many are fed up with the pandering and politicization of the church to be "appealing". If Jesus himself said there is NO WAY to the father except through him, I expect our most trusted interpreters (the hierarchy of the Church) to re-iterate that message. Some of us dont care about "appealing to the masses" some of us want the actual word of God. I might be a bad Catholic because I dont agree with much of what the current pope's views and interprestations are, but when Jesus himself says something in scripture I believe Him over the Pope. The reason we are losing our brothers and sisters is because we make light of the scriptures. It is proper to state the word of God unequivocally and with conviction! With all due respect, I wish our leaders would be more hard line and stop pandering to politics of the day. There is no salvation except through Jesus, and if you are the true Church, and your interpretation is true, then it would be right to say there is no salvation except through the Church. If you dont believe it strongly, why should I as a Catholic?
The Holy Spirit calls all to the Catholic Church. If they don't listen to Him why shouldn't they go to Hell?
Truly extraordinary circumstances excepted.
If we can only come to the Father through Christ, then that means any group with a twisted or incorrect view of Christ cannot see the face of the Father.
Google “which church did Jesus start?” Catholic....whats the problem?
@Doffy Rob the beauty of God coming to us in the flesh through Jesus is that he forgives our sins. All I can do is interpret the Word of God as best as I can in a way that makes sense to me through his teachings. I believe it to be true, if not, may God forgive me. What I dont believe in is to distort clear texts which deviate from the Word of God to appease current social norms by Godless people. Their views have been corrupted by the devil
@@GF-zh7sv The bible came from the catholic church, it was canonized in the year 382,during the council of Rome, it didn't just magically fall out the the sky,so whose interpretation of the scriptures am I gonna trust, some random guy off the street, or the Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church that was instituted by Jesus in the first century and ultimately gave us the bible.
Hey! You're back. I Hope classes are going well. Once again a very interesting discussion. I've had evangelicals and protestants tell me that because I'm Catholic, they are concerned about the salvation of my soul. This puts me a bit more at ease. Just an FYI, my wife and I are in marriage preparation ministry and for the 1st time last night, we used your video on marriage as an intro to our session. The couple was surprised by some of the content, but enjoyed it a lot.
May the almighty God bless you! I will pray for you. Good luck :)
Not all Catholics are Christians some are hypocrites and not all christians are Catholics
*Roman Catholicism Turns People Away From Christ*
The Roman Catholic Church counterfeits almost every work Christ does for Christians-thus turning people's attention from Jesus to something or someone else.
1) It points people to church sacraments, turning them away from trusting in Christ alone.
2) It emphasizes church tradition as the guide to life, turning them away from the Bible.
3) It directs people to the priest as mediator, thus turning them away from Christ as mediator.
4) It teaches people to pray to saints, thus turning them away from praying to God.
5) It urges people to pray to Mary, as merciful, thus turning them away from praying to God, claiming Him to be harsh, unwelcoming, and unapproachable.
6) It points to Peter as the Rock on which the church is based, thus turning them away from Christ as the true Rock.
7) It directs people to popes as Pontiffs (bridge builders), thus turning people away from Christ as the only hope of salvation.
8) It teaches people to do works of penance to gain God's favor, instead of accepting Christ's promises of forgiveness.
9) It requires people to believe in Catholic doctrine and papal infallibility as their authority, thus rejecting the voice of God speaking to their conscience.
as a recent convert I am finally at peace.
Welcome home
God bless you!
Only Roman Catholics and those of ignorance can be saved.
No man. You are groomed by a crooked heretic which denies infallible dogma of the Church.
Finally! I totally understand and hope you had a great break. But it's felt like a really long two weeks waiting for more uploads (yep, I like them that much). I'll watch it after work. Welcome back Brother Casey! I'm looking forward to this new season.
Aaaaand…. Home from work, watched it and continues to live up to expectations.
Your good! Well explained and interesting to listen to! Thank you and God Bless you and your mission in Christ!
The Doctrine does not change or evolve. This is a dogma. "It is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature that is subject to the Roman Pontiff" (bull Unam Sanctam of His Holiness the Pope Boniface VIII). There is no way to contradict it! ""But if anyone, even we ourselves or an Angel from Heaven, were to preach to you a gospel other than the one that we have preached to you, let him be anathema" (Letter of the Blessed Apostle Paul to the Galatians, I, 8).
Dogma are not the words. They are the meaning that those words represent. Unless you grasp its full meaning, putting it in full context, you are never reading or understanding the true Dogma, but your own man-made one.
The thief on the cross believed and received salvation outside the Roman catholic church. No sacraments needed whatsoever.
How do you know if the thief was baptized or not?
@@christinadoherty9450 Because Christianity wasn't really a thing, it was in its infancy and bearing in mind the location, the thief was probably of the Jewish Faith
@@thearmyguns You are assuming. That is not an efficient answer. Frankly, we do not know. Also, Christ did not die yet and resurrected, so the thief would be under the old law.
The Catholic Church exists in heaven and purgatory. So the thief was not saved outside of it.
@breaking in the habit , the link to Feeney @ewtn does not work...
@Mark C *Where in the Bible says "outside Roman ct there is no salvation"? or "submit to roman ct popes to be saved"? or "devote to roman ct Mary to be saved"? Or "partake Roman ct sacraments to be saved"? Where?*
Why did you upload this so early ( I live in PST time) But now we have a new series of CIF YAYYY😁
Y'all gonna be surprised when you get there and we're there too.
That would be nice😁. There’s always hope. Only God knows.🙏
Daybird, do you really think you can get to Heaven by rejecting the Church Jesus founded or the pope He appointed?
What makes you think they're gonna be there?
Hell?
This explanation is satisfyingly righteous and clear. Thank you Father as always!
As a Protestant, I get annoyed at other Protestants who say that Roman Catholics aren't Christians because of the idolatry. At the same time, I find the same irritation when a Roman Catholic says their is no salvation outside of their organized group.
Most Protestants believe in the "catholic" (universal) church and that within it (including Baptists, Pentecostals, Methodists, Lutherans, Catholics, Orthodox, etc.), is the message of Salvation. Therefore, whenever we hear any one of our fellow denominations claim that Salvation is through Christ but only by also being a member of their denomination, we're going to disagree and (borrowing from your Ten Commandments Video), you certainly shouldn't blame us.
This is a major reason that it's near impossible to get some Protestant churches to come to ecumenical Christian meetings where Catholics are also present. Feel me?
Amen!
The word "universal church" means everyone is free to join it. It does not mean that Baptists, Lutherans, Methodists etc are included in it.
@@erningpaguirigan5831 A couple of things: "Universal church" is two words. Second, feel free to define the word "universal" however you want, however, since I'm the one using it, it means "everywhere" or "all embracing."
Here's a dictionary use of it:
adjective: catholic
including a wide variety of things; all-embracing.
"her tastes are pretty catholic."
As to your "Everyone is free to join it," no thank you.
@@semperfiarcher You are not the one using it, it is the Roman Catholic Church.
It is written in the bible that Christ will come again to save his church.
The Ten Commandments has no bearing to the church built by christ which is the only true church.
The body of christ which is his church should be well organized. You see each one of you have its own meaning of a church and disagree on several important issues, You have no singular dogma to stand on, which is why, you are placed in a guagmire of an unending argument simply because you are disorganized. It is likened to a body who is very sick.
Surely that is not the kind of a body of which christ had intended for his church.
Are you certain about this?
I would think the early church fathers really meant to say"Their
is no salvation outside of Christ."
Christ is the head of the body that is the church. All who believed in Christ would be part of His church. Thus it logically follows that there is no salvation outside the church, as the church is the body of christ.
Yes they might have really thought that, but they were probably unaware of the people who know nothing about the church. Like people in remote islands.
Don't try to kid yourselves, folks. ALL the Church Fathers, I mean ALL of them taught that outside the Church there is no savation. The Church Fathers recognized, as we should, that the Church is the mystical body of Christ and the mystical bride of Christ, and to reject the Church is to reject Christ Himself. But even the Church Fathers recognized that baptism of desire could be had by those who knew know better.
He is deceived or deliberately rejecting the truth.
ONE HOLY CATHOLIC AND APOSTOLIC CHURCH
VERY GOOD!!! THE CHURCH BECOMES ONLY >MORE< NECESSARY TO BRING CHRIST'S TRUTHS INTO THE WORLD.
Context is always important.
What’s your thoughts on Saint Gregory of Nyssa’s writings on Universalism?
Honestly, I was baptized in the catholic church when I was young but bcs of a change of events my family turned protestant and bcs of their unfluence so did I.
Now that I'm genuinely interested in the Catholic church and I also believe in its ideas, I hate when some catholics judge saying that protestants will burn in hell.
I love ur channel btw and bcs of your channel I'm studying more about the catholic faith and I'll probably start my cathecism next year, in January.
We don’t take joy in people burning in hell. However, the church will never lie. I know it sounds sour, but it’s true. Protestantism and it’s inability to acknowledge mortal sin and the immaculate is extremely heretical.
Catholicism isn’t a bully, it doesn’t bash other religions. It simply boasts in its truth, which in turn, exposes everything else as a lie
“The practice of the Church has always been the same, as is shown by the unanimous teaching of the Fathers, who were wont to hold as outside Catholic communion, and alien to the Church, whoever would recede in the least degree from any point of doctrine proposed by her authoritative Magisterium.”
- Pope Leo XIII, Satis Cognitum, No. 9, June 29, 1896
@@nicholasmargagliano1833 Translation" " Because you do not believe in the very late additional dogmas we have placed in the church about Mary besides the virgin birth, you are damned to Hell" Paul: " But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. [9] As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed." Marion dogmas other than the virgin birth being an EXTREAMLY late edition to the RCC and then being REQUIRED for salvation? Lol You are adding to the original Gospel. icons = late, rosary= late. I'm reading the church fathers now and there is nothing there. Justin Martyr? Nothing. The EARLIEST text on venerating Mary etc, is Greek Gnostic Text that is a fraud with tons of Pagan stuff in it from the 3rd century.
Almost 1900 YEARS after the start......he says the "practice" of the church has always been the same. YET......we can zoom out and see that practice and its development and error as it gets older. So VERY obvious.....it has not always been the same. It was simpler back at the beginning. In Protestantism defense, it was more like them than the current Orthodox or RCC transitions and what they have come to today. The council of Jerusalem was extremely eye opening in Acts. "Yea, if you are a gentile believer you do not have to become a Jew. Just stay away from idols, sexual immorality follow the tenants of the gospel and your good! " Wait what?! Where is everything else? Where are my hail Mary's (or anything even remotely close) or icon veneration or intercessory prayer from dead saints? if anything this is an extreme eye opener to the negation of adding things to the Gospel. Things that don't even effect me. Like the priesthood being celibate. SOOOO late, when in scripture we have a command that Bishops only have 1 wife. Or that priests of the temple in Judaism have children and wives as well! On a more scathing note. Has it always been the practice of Christians to murder those they disagree with......since things have ALWAYS been the same? The slaughter of the Waldensians? The slaughter of the Lollards or Anabaptists? The Hussites? Jan Huss? The inquisition? Does the church still do that? you know, because its ALWAYS been the same. Pope Leo XIII is so obviously WRONG in his statement. There is one thing that the RCC in its magisterium did not expect in the future that would show what amny of them say to be a total lie or a farce. That is, the Internet.
Brother, thank you for this video! I am Protestant, and I hope someday to become Catholic.. I see so many traditionalists that do believe that you have to be Catholic to be saved, but that just doesn't seem fair for a baptized Protestant who loves the Lord, serves Him actively and repents to go to hell.. as my father said (he is Protestant), God doesn't care about labels but about our hearts. (Though I would add that He also cares about our works.) Anyway thank you for the video! God Bless!
Uh, don't pay atention to these kind of traditionalists, they don't deserve it.
Best whises, God bless! :-)
@@giovannimartini6405 well I prefer Latin Mass over Novus Ordo, but I was mainly talking about on social media. Many are wonderful though!
Those "traditionalists" are following dogma, you are denying dogma, if a person denies catholic dogma, they cease to be catholic.
@@phiafacetious Please forgive me. I wrote about "these kind of traditionalists" and not traditionalists as a whole precisely because I truly respect traditionalists who simply prefer the older liturgy or way to take communion. The ones I'm getting tired of are the kind who treat the rest of Catholics as modernists and the rest of Christians as heretical traitors.
@@giovannimartini6405 all is forgiven, but I wasn't angry to begin with :) all is good. God Bless!
Wow!!!!! I love that, explanation, yes it is said my people perish because of lack of knowledge,,keep it up, God bless u, brother
ST. POPE JOHN PAUL II: When brothers and sisters who are not in perfect communion with one another come together to pray... their prayer is the soul of the whole ecumenical movement. If Christians, despite their divisions, can grow evermore united in common prayer around Christ, they will grow in their awareness of how little divides them in comparison to what unites them.
“It is absolutely clear that ecumenism, the movement promoting Christian unity, is not just some sort of ‘appendix’ which is added to the Church’s traditional activity. Rather, ecumenism is an organic part of her life and work, and, consequently, must pervade all that she is and does.”
I'm somewhat agree what is being said about salvation not being saved into the body of christ not the actual Roman catholic church or church leaders to determine if one is worthy of salvation or not I believe that one who has believed and accepted Jesus as their lord and savoir is indeed saved.
I know for myself. It was when I came to that place of being broken, empty and not seeing any point in my life, no purpose. I was a broken vessel. Then I asked God "let me know who you are". I wasn't religious, I'm still not. I was ready to make that change. To stop living for myself and start living for God. I asked God for forgiveness and for Him to me my Lord and Saviour. Then I received the Holy Spirit baptism in my bedroom. I hadn't even been near a church and still don't attend a local church building as they all teach false doctrine and are not the true church. The true church are the called out ones, it's the people, rather than a building.
Like the aopstle Paul said:
1Co 2:1 And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God.
1Co 2:2 For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.
1Co 2:3 And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling.
1Co 2:4 And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:
1Co 2:5 That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.
It's all about Jesus and accepting His sacrifice and fully repenting. Changing from following our own will to God's will, which is an ongoing process of sanctification in the word.
Eph 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
Eph 5:26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
Living a new transformed life in Christ. Someone can be a bible expert and not know Christ. He calls all men everywhere to repent and beleive in their hearts.
Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
"The true church are the called out ones, it's the people, rather than a building."
The true Church is the one that Christ built upon Peter, which is the Catholic Church. The Church is a unified body with a communion of faith, its not everyone who believes in Christ and who are not in communion each other and believe in different doctrines.
The true Church is us our self
This video really was helpful and gave a complex answer to a very complex miss understanding of Vatican ii.
In what way: even the Catechism of the Catholic Church is abundantly clear on what the Second Vatican Council actually taught (not what some may now like to imagine it did): '"The sole Church of Christ [is that] which our Saviour, after His Resurrection, entrusted to Peter's pastoral care, commissioning him and the other apostles to extend and rule it .. This Church, constituted and organised as a society in the present world, subsists* in (subsistit in) the Catholic Church, which is governed by the successor of Peter and by the bishops in communion with him." (Lumen Gent 8, 2)
The Second Vatican Council's Decree on Ecumenism explains: "For it is through Christ's Catholic Church alone, which is the universal help toward salvation, that the fullness of the means of salvation can be obtained. It was to the apostolic college alone, of which Peter is the head, that we believe that our Lord entrusted all the blessings of the New Covenant, in order to establish on earth the one Body of Christ into which all those should be fully incorporated who belong in any way to the People of God." (Unitatis Redintegratio 3, 5)' CCC 816.
* This subsistence does not mean minimally exists in, among others beside it, nor even that it somehow abides in Her one body with one spirit, but that it rests upon the Catholic Church, and no other.
www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_P29.HTM#$12J
Elements of sanctity and truth are present in man's search for God even outside the Church. The Church is, nonetheless, the sole divinely proffered means of fulfilling that search, whole and entire, whether men know it or not, accept it or reject it. So the Church does not dare to call truth 'untrue' just because someone outside Her sacramental life speaks it, She is there to guide mankind to the beginning and the end of all truths = The Truth (moreover, to deny this is to deny Her, and the Lord to Whom She is wed).
Hi Br - does invincible ignorance apply to those who have heard the Gospel but perhaps are of a mindset where they aren't opposed to the Gospel in so far as if they could know it to be true they would accept it but because they dont see enough evidence for its presuppositions they are accordingly invincible ignorant because their intellectual composition is prohibiting them for truly accepting the faith? Basically - what about people who see no evidence but would accept it if they found it?
I realize that much of which you speak, even with your reply to me several weeks ago, sounds logical. This still does not address my concern about the Billions of souls pre-Christ and those who beliefs or concept of God after Christ where do their souls go??
I do thank you for all your videos, they have awakened thoughts of returning to the Church.
While I can see how your question relates to this one, it is definitely a separate issue that requires a different explanation. This video is concerned with a post-Resurrection world.
As for those before, we have to remember that the same God who died and rose here on earth is the one that will judge the souls of those who lived before the Incarnation. This God is loving and merciful and wants all to come in union with the Triune God. There is no reason for us to believe anything other than the fact that Jesus Christ will judge them fairly and that his resurrection now applies to them.
After Christ died, He descended to Hell to preach the Good News and to save them.
It is these spirits to whom Jesus preached the good news. “It is precisely these holy souls, who awaited their Savior in Abraham’s bosom, whom Christ the Lord delivered when he descended into hell” (CCC 633).
1 Peter 3:19
in which he went and proclaimed to the spirits in prison
www.ewtn.com/library/ANSWERS/VISHELL.htm
Joseph Hamm, the Church teaches that there is such a thing as baptism of desire, which can be explicit (a catechumen has a fatal heart attack the week before his scheduled Baptism), or implicit (they lived at a time and place where the Gospel had never bern preached, but were repentant of sin and would have been baptized had they known God wanted it).
God is reasonable. But He still commands all to search for the truth.
As long as there is no salvation outside of Christ, which there isn’t, likewise there will never be salvation outside the Church.
We not only make up the Church but make up the mystical body of Christ and His Body is the Church.
@kim burley What if you are raped by a Protestant minister?
kim burley You ever notice that every time a Catholic priest commits such terrible acts, everyone sees it on the media? Do you ever see Protestants or other religions get as much coverage? That should be a sign that Catholicism is the one true faith. It’s easy to act clean but in reality we are all capable of committing heinous acts. “When therefore they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said to them: He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.” -John 8:7
Thanks for sharing this video to me. I agree its a touchy subject but i also agree with Fr Isaac and his hard stance that there is no salvation outside the Catholic Church. You basically agree with him and other homilies I’ve listen to. People need to listen to such explanations as yours and Fr Isaacs.
It makes sense because no amount of good deeds man does can erase the evil that he has done.
Mercy and justice can’t be carried out at the same time.
What makes sense? Scripture says love covers a multitude of sins and that baptism washes away sins. Faith alone doesn't erase sins. And God judges everyone according to their works.
May i ask what is the purpose of excommunication then？
Excommunication is the formal penalty, recognizing that one has removed themselves from the community of faith, that prohibits them from receiving the sacraments.
"Who shall bind, who shall release.. "
Extra Ecclesia nulla salus!!!
Yes, but the point of the Vatican 2 documents were to elaborate on that, and they explain that the Christ may unite in death any person who would have accepted him in life thus making them part of the Church.
@@willhunter7363 Not True! IF God saves them, then God will lead them to the Knowledge of the Truth
No Salvation Outside the Church is absolute!
Thank God (the Triune God, there is no other) for your comment. Almost everyone here (including the narrator) are of the apostate novus ordo religion not the true Roman Catholic religion. And now their "pope," Mr. Bergolio, is explicitly attacking the Council of Trent!
@@willhunter7363Vatican 2 is heretical there is no salvation outside the Church.
Rev I want to ask dat y is it that in d day of baptism we take both d body and blood and after dat it is no more going again why so, pls Rev help me
That sounds like a local custom of your bishop, Lucy.
@Mark C *You are right about Christ being the Great High Priest of the order of Melchizedek (not line). Jesus did not once started a "new priesthood". If you claim have, please cite some Scriptures to support your claims.*
*The Old Covenant Priesthood was already obsolete. Heb 7,9,10 says there is no longer a need for clergy priesthood, altars or sacrifices. Since Jesus said "it is finished". It was completed. The Old Covenant Priesthood was gone. The New Covenant priesthood was Jesus as the Great High Priest and all believers as the priests. 1 Pet 2:9 - priesthood of all believers. Not clergy priests.*
you said
what is obsolete according to Hebrews is the Levitical priesthood in the line of Aaron of the old covenant. Christ has a priesthood in the line of Melchizedek, who blessed Abraham. And just as a high priest appoints priests, Christ appoints them to offer the perfect sacrifice of the new covenant, himself.
As a Bible believer , my salvation is by faith and not works lest any man should boast .
Yes, but are you doing the works meet for repentance?
You aren't saved. You are outside the fold. St Paul was talking about justification not eternal salvation which comes after death and judgement according to works.
"What shall it profit, my brethren, if a man say he hath faith, but hath not works? Shall faith be able to save him?"
- James 2:14
"So faith also, if it have not works, is dead in itself. [18] But some man will say: Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without works; and I will shew thee, by works, my faith."
- James 2:17-18
"But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? Was not Abraham our father justified by works, offering up Isaac his son upon the altar? Seest thou, that faith did co-operate with his works; and by works faith was made perfect? And the scripture was fulfilled, saying: Abraham believed God, and it was reputed to him to justice, and he was called the friend of God. Do you see that by works a man is justified; and not by faith only? And in like manner also Rahab the harlot, was not she justified by works, receiving the messengers, and sending them out another way? For even as the body without the spirit is dead; so also faith without works is dead.
- James 2:20-26
"If you love me, keep my commandments."
- John 14:15
"And by this we know that we have known him, if we keep his commandments."
- 1 John 2:3
"He who saith that he knoweth him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him."
- 1 John 2:4
"Know you not that the unjust shall not possess the kingdom of God? Do not err: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers ..."
- 1 Corinthians 6:9
"For know you this and understand, that no fornicator, or unclean, or covetous person (which is a serving of idols), hath inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God."
- Ephesians 5:5
I believe Jesus Christ is the church, as long as we follow his word and follow him 🙏
Jesus Christ founded a church. That church he founded is the catholic church. He entrusted His church to Peter, the first pope. He gave Peter the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever Peter looses on earth shall be loosed in heaven. Whatever he held bound, shall be held bound.
Where the heck is that translation of the statement from the Council of Florence from? “Greco-Roman Religions”?
You said, “if we take it to mean one fully understands the works of the church”. That makes salvation very broad, as even as visibly and officially associated practicing Catholics, we do not fully understand the works of the church. Much less would anyone outside of the church. I myself belief in Catholic Church, and even so, I admit that the Church has had many mistakes and can understand when people outside the church stay away, yet do not deny Christ. As you said, we hope and pray for the salvation of all souls
Thanks for clear and informative video. Also, be ready for heavy fire
Unless you don't believe in Jesus Christ... otherwise your statement does not suit your identity...are you God to tell who to go to heavy Fire? Mt. 7 will help you if you don't mind reading it.
I wasn't talking about fire of hell. I was talking about backlash from hardcore traditionalists who say "No salvation outside church. PERIOD!"
Wish I can see all your videos translated in Spanish or at least translated in subtitles...
keep up the good work brother. 🙏🙏🙏😊
Great work man... just, great work!
If someone can be saved because of their state of "invincible ignorance," then why would you tell them about Jesus and risk them committing the deliberate sin of rejecting the Church, which would result in damnation?
Exactly. Even though I follow Jesus, this theological dilemma doesn't get the attention it deserves.
If they are ignorant, it wouldn't be deliberate
Why be ignorant?
1) "Can be saved" doesn't mean "will be saved". Invincible ignorance means they accepted the grace they had, even if it was few. It's like the servant who received fewer talents but still worked with what he had. With that attitude, he will say yes to God if discover explicit faith. But there are still people who are like the servant who hides the talent, and you can't tell one from the other if you don't see his soul.
2) Even if I received a vision in which universalism happened to be true, I would still preach the Gospel. Because having God also in this life is worth the risk. And because He deserves everyone to love Him and glorify Him. "Love isn't loved!" was saint Francis cry. Salvation is infinitely important, but we should love and make love God for Who He is and have done, independently of that. Attributted to saint John of the Cross: "Even if there were no Heaven, I would love You". Saint Therese of Lissieux: "Even if I end up in hell, I'll praise You from there".
There is no salvation out side of faith in Christ . and Christ body is the Church
made up of saved believers it is spiritual . There is no salvation in the apostate Catholic Church and or any other local earthly Church . that is a deception of the devil . salvation is in Christ only . !!!!!!
@Mark C *Yes except nowhere says Roman ct inherited the authority of Apostles. So why do i need to accept Roman ct priests or Roman ct popes?*
you said
"Whoever accepts you [apostles] also accepts me, and whoever accepts me also accepts the One who sent me." (Matthew 10:40)
This you still lack, because you reject those who he has sent to you.
*This sounds crude, but true. No one is good enough for my God; except God Himself - Jesus. That’s why we take upon the righteousness of Jesus to be saved. Romans 4, 2 Cor 5:21.*
2Co 5:21 For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.
Yes Protestants can make it to heaven, unfortunately thir room is next to the elevator and the ice machine
Tomas Tanuz Bo Protestant enters heaven.
@@user-uu5zv9qw1y some have a sincere desire to enter the church but circumstances could prevent them.
"Martin Luther is in Hell and all who follow him will surely join him there."
--Padre Pio
@Edward Nehls What makes you feel good has got to take a back seat to what is true. Truth saves us, not feeling good.
@Edward Nehls At Matthew 16:19 Jesus gave the pope the authority to "loose and to bind", that is, the authority to make rules for members of the Church. So what you might consider a man-made rule, for instance clerical celibacy, the rule that requires Catholics to marry in the Church, the rule that requires Catholics to attend Mass every Sunday, or the rule that requires Catholics not to est meat on Fridays during Lent, are actually rules that God backs up----God will send people to Hell for violating these rules (these kinds of rules apply to Catholics only, unlike the ten commandments, which apply to all).
"I am the way,...and no one comes to the Father, but by me..." Jesus
You can receive Jesus through the catholic Church outside the church you can't receive him.
@@singalong2998 says who?
@@joe7pham Protestant doesn't believe the presence of Christ in the Eucharist... End of the Story
The more I watch your videos, the more I realize that a lot of people, including many Catholics I've interacted with, have a lot misunderstanding around Vatican II
Also good on you for not making a Boy meets world joke
This priest also misunderstands the council. He thinks it changed Church doctrine on no salvation outside the Church.
No savation inside Church Catholics used to belong to the Orthoidox Churchhurch Orthodox older than |Catholicism believe you have to work to be saved , it is caslled repentance.
What would ultimately happen to those who died never knowing what god was, would they be let into heaven?
Very very interesting. I never knew all this but had a few hesitations about the way some people use “outside the church there is no salvation”. Thank you for clarifying with evidence what I’ve always thought that phrase really meant.
You say there can be salvation outside of the church in other faiths, but also say if they reject Christ and church intentionally because it means rejecting Him and there can't be salvation in rejecting Him; how come Catholic Church has dialogue with muslims and how come a muslim can be saved while they are rejecting His divinity, and salvific work. It's clear to me Church was standing firm in old, but now with modernism weakend church is trying to be nice to everyone and twisting Words. There is no salvation outside of the Church, outside of the believing in Jesus Christ who is Divine and His atoning death.
What is meant by rejection is it true rejection from the heart OR something else?
I am willing to bet many reject what they don't understand
Then again there are many that reject God out of selfish bad reasons too
its vain to say that anyone who knows or even heard of your Church is going to hell........true rejection comes from the heart)
One has to question whether a Muslim, particularly one raised in a Muslim-run country, can truly understand what they are rejecting. In reality, it is often not an active, fully-conscious rejection, put a passive acceptance of what they have grown into. Even when they encounter a Christian and hear of the divinity of Christ, this does not mean that they have fully encountered it as they are not necessarily free to do so.
There are always many factors to be considered. While some might be attracted to the clarity of the early Church and find current times to be more confusing, we should not equate this with weakness. Rather, it is wisdom and humility. The arrogant comes to quick and clear pronouncements about God. The wise is careful and is open to mercy, recognizing that he or she does not have all the answers.
Oguz
you also got to realize that many religions outside of catholicism are not 100% evil but are at most misguided
Once you see this you arrive at the truth the 2nd vatican council is trying to project towards others.
please keep an open mind.
just because saints and popes say something, doesn't make it infallible..you must realize that..
The church keep us free and safe.., giving them the power,..
Do you have a video on how to affirm the catholic faith?
It was especially helpful to see how those previous statements in-context seem to be written with those assumptions that nobody could claim ignorance and all that Vatican II did was change the language to clarify the doctrine as always intended.
Feeneyism I hope will be covered soon. There seems to be confusion amongst youth in my circles that the teaching is condemned. Also, shouldn’t it amount to heresy to hold to Feenyism?
www.ewtn.com/library/scriptur/feeney.txt
Since baptism of desire has been a long-held Catholic doctrine, I would be of the opinion that Feeneyism is a heresy.
Incidentally the SSPX (but not the FSSP) teaches that there is no baptism of desire. Historically most schisms sooner or later begin to teach heresy.
But don't bounce to the opposite error of thinking anyone of any religion can be saved. Generally speaking, only Catholics go to Heaven---only in very extraordinary cases can non-Catholics be saved.
“The Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that all those who are outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans but also Jews or heretics or schismatics, cannot share in eternal life and will go into the everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels unless they are joined to the Church before the end of their lives. … and that nobody can be saved, no matter how much he has given away in alms and even if he has shed blood in the name of Christ unless he has persevered in the bosom and unity of the Catholic Church.”
- Pope Eugene IV, Council of Florence, “Cantate Domino,” 1441
“So, Venerable Brethren, it is clear why this Apostolic See has never allowed its subjects to take part in the assemblies of non-Catholics: for the union of Christians can only be promoted by promoting the return to the one true Church of Christ of those who are separated from it …”
- Pope Pius XI, Mortalium Animos, No. 10, Jan. 6, 1928
“The practice of the Church has always been the same, and that with the consenting judgment [i.e. consensus] of the holy fathers who certainly were accustomed to hold as having no part of Catholic communion and as banished from the Church whoever had departed in even the least way from the doctrine proposed by the authentic magisterium.”
- Pope Leo XIII, Satis Cognitum, No. 9, June 29, 1896
“Urged by faith, we are obliged to believe and to maintain that the Church is one, holy, catholic, and also apostolic. We believe in her firmly and we confess with simplicity that outside of her there is neither salvation nor the remission of sins, as the Spouse in the Canticles [Sgs 6:8] proclaims: ‘One is my dove, my perfect one. She is the only one, the chosen of her who bore her,‘ and she represents one sole mystical body whose Head is Christ and the head of Christ is God [1 Cor 11:3]. In her then is one Lord, one faith, one baptism [Eph 4:5].”
- Pope Boniface VIII, Unam Sanctam, Nov. 18, 1302
I can’t thank you enough for this video. ❤️
You must be very young, very ignorant and very naive!
Praise the Lord
Dangerous but I never thought of it this way before I appreciate the point of view I learned something.much love thank you
Don’t let him trick you.
I unsubscribed, you cannot change doctrine. Please learn before speaking.
There’s a great responsibility on us when we profess this truth, unfortunately with Vatican 2 we have seen heresies grow and flourish. By changing this doctrine nobody now preaches the Gospel and our pope calls it a great sin to evangelise. What a terrible time to be living in.
I'm sorry that you feel that I (or the Church) changed doctrine. Everything I have stated is factual. Maybe you would like to watch it again. It's possible you misunderstood something I said.
Yes; it is a defined Dogma of the Church .. and witnessed thus in Sacred Scripture: 'Neither is there salvation in any other. For there is no other name under heaven given to men, whereby we must be saved.' Acts 4 : 12. The Church is catholic - i.e. Catholic for Jesus Christ shares His Holy Name with us in His Bride, no Other.
why do you leave out the word " Roman"
it's not called the catholic church it's called the Roman catholic church that make a big difference because I'm not a Roman catholic I Am a Christian a bible believing Christian, I dont believe in all this NONSENSE that a man made religious system as Roman CATHOLICISM teaches outside the word of God as biblical CHRISTIANITY, you have faith in the teachings of your religion, I have faith in christ alone for salvation.
be blessd
@@livingwater7580 The Anglicans used Rome as a distinguishing marker, English forms tended to have RC aka 'Roman Catholic' not 'Catholic' (I believe the US had something similar). Other forms - were the Church of England was not established - had 'Christian', but if this were ticked, a Protestant minister would be called, not a Catholic priest or religious (whether Roman or Eastern). The Roman communion did distinguish itself from other Ancient Petrine churches (e.g. Antioch or Alexandria) with God's Beloved called to be saints at Rome, Rom 1 : 7-8, or the Holy Roman church/ the Holy Roman Catholic church, and also from other ancient churches that were both Catholic (credal catholic) and Roman (in the Roman empire), e.g. Jerusalem/ Caesarea, Antioch, Damascus, Cyrenaica, Edessa, Thessalonica, Berea, Athens, Corinth, Ephesus, Smyrna, Laodicea, Galatia, Cyprus, Alexandria, Pompey, Lyons, Milan, Trier, Verulamium (St Albans), Armenia, Nicea, Elvira, Savile, Carthage, Hippo, Byzantium/ Constantinople/ Second Rome/ Istanbul, and Third Rome/ Kiev/ Moscow, et al.
Note well, many of these churches no longer exist, other than in name, having been swept away under the tide of Islam. If I mean the Roman communion (Rom 1 : 7-8) or the Holy See (the Holy Roman church, aka The Vatican), I tend to say so. But the Catholic Church covers all the above, in communion with the Successor to St Peter (and that is as true at St Mary Trastevere or downtown Susquehanna); I am a Catholic, but I answer Roman Catholic on English forms (in the dwindling hope I may still get a Catholic priest in Extreme Unction and not a layperson - or a Protestant).
@@georgepenton808 Absolutely, no further comment needed. God bless. ;o)
P.S. As an aside, the Church in communion with Constantinople is also 'Roman' - on two counts. Chiefly, as with Antioch and Alexandria, it accepts (in theory) the defined position of the Patriarch of the West .. even in jurisdiction in terms of honour. However, unlike Armenia, Ethiopia and India, the above were also of Rome Romans, imperially, and much of their own temporal jurisdictional authority rested on that (the three Petrine Sees, Rome, Antioch, and Alexandria having spiritual and temporal authorities resting on his witness not imperial and metropolitan position alone .. if only through Mark, at Alexandria).
Agreed; New Rome was also Roman (in theory and de jure), the reason for it being so, of course, has vanished. Third Rome, aka Kiev or Moscow, has still, perhaps, a tenuous claim to be 'Roman' .. though the absence of any imperial Caesar and Augustus makes that more than a little iffy (as with France, Germany or Austria). Papal Rome, naturally enough, did not and does not rest on imperial title but St Peter's witness at .. erm .. Roman Rome aka imperial Babylon. ;o)
Wonderfully explained ...most needed in seminaries
Christ remains the same yesterday today and tomorrow..
No one comes to the Father except through Jesus.
If the church "changes its mind" it is outside the will and doctrine of Jesus Christ
Yes, Christ stays the same, and if you listen to what I say in this video, so too does our dogmas. We still profess that there is no salvation outside the Church. But that doesn’t mean we don’t grow in understanding of what that means. Would you prefer that we never changed as we learned more?
Yes like Luther who changed his mind, am I correct?
Erning Paguirigan who change his mind to the truth?
@@tan1591 what truth? Truth about what?Please specify.
Peter's boat Barque is the Catholic Church.Did anyone outside of the Noah's Ark survive.
The Blessed Virgin Mary the Ark of the new Covenant.There has been at the time of the deluge only one ark of Noah prefiguring the one Church Catholic Church which ark having been finished to a single cubit had only one pilot and guide.
I don't agree with you, outside the catholic church there is no salvation, I believe catholic church is holy but people are not holy, the bible said everyone have sin, that only God can give a judgement
You made it simple and clear now. Thanks
I'm reminded of the Chronicles of Narnia and, specifically, The Last Battle when a Calormene soldier who had never known Aslan is still saved by him. (Aslan being that world's Jesus, literally the idea for the series was "what if Christ came to a world in a different form.)
thank you,i agree.
I could not help but notice, that during the Brother's talk, never once was the Bible or any Scripture discussed regarding how one is saved. The entire support for the doctrine of "There is No Salvation Outside the Roman Catholic Church" was based on arguments brought forth by "church fathers", church councils and the Magistarium.
The church has been, and continues to be, comprised of individuals who posses varying view points, perceptions and education. This is true even today. One need only read the comments following this video to see that Catholics disagee with not only Protestants but fellow Catholics alike. Over the history of the RCC, members of church councils debated and argued over the development of doctrines and religious traditions. They were never cut and dry because they were products of men.
The RCC also has a very troubling history. During the Inquisitions, individuals were tortured and killed if they did not swear allegiance to the Church and recant reformed theology. Many Papal seats were bought and sold, fought over and stolen. There were many very good Popes but unfortunately, some very bad Popes too. Desire for riches, authority, recognition and sexual lust are an ever lasting stain on the Papacy. And why did this occur? Simply, Popes, like all men, are human and subject to sin. They make mistakes just like everyone else. And because of this they, like all men, do not have the right or the authority to pronounce who will and will not be saved. Salvation is a gift from God and He, and He alone, will pass judgement.
Throughout the Bible, it is repeated time and again, even by Jesus Christ himself, that salvation is a free gift from God and one only need faith in God to recieve this gift.
No church can save you. Only Christ can save you and he offers salvation to anyone who believes in him. It is dependent upon the person to truly believe in Christ to obtain salvation.
You know what.....I think you are a bit of a crank.
Yes only christ can save you, that is, if you join the church built by him.
If his church can not save, why did he built it?
@@erningpaguirigan5831
Christ's church was built to teach the Gospel; the Good News of Christ's free gift of salvation. It might help you to read Paul's letter to the Church in Corinth. (1 Corinthians) There was some division in the early church there and Paul wrote to inform them of their responsibility to teach the Good News. As stated by Paul, "For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the Good News ..." 1 Corn 1:17.
"It is the Good News that saves you if you continue to believe the message I told you ..." 1 Corn 15:2
Take your time reading this epistle. It really is a fascinating glimpse into the early church. It will also show that the purpose of the church is to teach and salvation is only through God's grace.
God bless.
@@timmcvicker5775 Yes Paul wrote to them to inform them of their responsibility to spread the gospel, however, you fail to see that the letter was sent to the members of the church and not to non-members of the church.
Paul would not have sent the letter if there were was church in Corinth.
So it is therefore important to be a member of the church built by christ. If you are not a member of the church then you are not sent and you have no authority to preach or spread the gospel because you will be a false teacher. Analyze that.
@@erningpaguirigan5831
Mark 9:38-41
38 John said to Jesus, “Teacher, we saw someone using your name to cast out demons, but we told him to stop because he wasn’t in our group.”
39 “Don’t stop him!” Jesus said. “No one who performs a miracle in my name will soon be able to speak evil of me. 40 Anyone who is not against us is for us. 41 If anyone gives you even a cup of water because you belong to the Messiah, I tell you the truth, that person will surely be rewarded.
Heartfelt thanks for this clear explanation, very well presented!!! I was so disturbed some months ago, after having seen another video in which a priest maintained the old, strict view of "no salvation outside the Catholic Church" - neither Jews nor Protestants, not not even aborted babies (the latter would be sent to a limbo for the unbaptised). The sermon was so disturbing that I couldn't watch to the end.... I felt in my heart of hearts that it couldn't be right - such a strict, narrow definition of salvation was not in line with the infinite Mercy and Love of God. I well remember the Scripture "the will of God is the salvation of all men".
Finally, I also felt that this (Salvation) was a truth which is beyond human understanding/knowledge, since, apart from the Saints & Mystics, we do not know with absolute certainty who has been saved and who hasn't. And even the Saints who 'taught' that only a tiny percentage of humans would be saved --- even the Saints are not free of error.
@Howard Williams I absolutely agree that we need unity. But that is both the challenge and beauty of humans: our INDIVIDUALITY! from the day we are able to think, we develop our own thoughts & opinions.... God, who created us, is fully aware of this. Had He wanted clones, He would have created clones!! Instead, He created individuals. He will know how to deal with the whole spectrum of opinions & ideas. Peace be with you too!!
If non-Catholics would ask, they would receive (the truth). If they sought, they would find. If they knocked, the door would be opened to them. If they dont ask, seek, or knock, they have no one except themselves to blame.
@@GeorgePenton-np9rh We have and we find child molesters, we find the nations who stayed catholic as weak and corrupt, and we find the atheists arguing with us over Galileo, the age of the earth, transubstantiation, and on and on all things Protestantism fixed or was wise enough to stay out of.
Even if I go among the states NY, CA, IL, MA, MD, etc are all the biggest dens of sin and atheism which are also all catholic strongholds. So don't preach at me if you were anything of what you pretend you were NY wouldn't be the pro abortion, pro LGBTQ, pro divorce on a dime state. Grow a backbone again everything can't be backsliding to pagans so they can keep a tree or a day of the dead.
“The Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that all those who are outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans but also Jews or heretics or schismatics, cannot share in eternal life and will go into the everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels unless they are joined to the Church before the end of their lives. … and that nobody can be saved, no matter how much he has given away in alms and even if he has shed blood in the name of Christ unless he has persevered in the bosom and unity of the Catholic Church.”
- Pope Eugene IV, Council of Florence, “Cantate Domino,” 1441
@@John-jf8lw This does not apply to protestants because there were no protestants in 1441.
I would too see you debate Father Issac Mary Relyea
Priests who try to reject or dance around the dogma of No Salvation outside the church commit the sin of Omission. Watch Fr Isaac Relyea’s video on this subject.
@Richard Fox then by that line of logic is it also due to “power lust” and “arrogance” on the part of Jesus that “there is no salvation”outside of Jesus” as you claim?
2000 years of church teachings dissolved with VCII...my beliefs are based on the Catechism of the Counsel of Trent, Dogma, Traditional Church teaching, Holy Scripture and the Holy Ghost working in my heart...not VCII
I'm a bit confused by what you say. Do you think that dogma changed at Vatican II? It might be good to read what it actually said, because even the most conservative of theologians will say that Vatican II was nothing more than a "pastoral council" that did nothing with dogma or doctrine.
@@BreakingInTheHabit You know I'm sorry I brought this up. I'm a disappointed old man who thinks that VCII and those who were involved in it, betrayed the faithful... I need to re-read John 21, verse 22....
God bless you brother, see you at Latin Mass🙏
@@dobermanpac1064 www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_P29.HTM
CCC 846 - 847. What Bro Casey said was in line with Church teachings
No matter. We are bound by authority. The rest is a matter for God
I have a simple question, then why would a Protestant have the need of being Catholic if there's salvation outside the Catholic Church?
Do you guys think it doesn't matter which church you go to?
As far as I know Jesus Christ has only one body and that unity with the most holy Trinity is found only in the EUCHARIST, Jesus is not divided, not one of his bones where broken , he wasn't dismembered like John the Baptist.
So I believe with all my heart that Jesus founded his church ONLY ONE CHURCH , the Catholic Church and outside of this church there is no salvation, for a lot of reasons one of them are the sacraments specially the holy EUCHARIST.
And I believe all the bishops like the early church father's knew this very clearly.
That's a complex question.
Protestant churches are apostate in that they reject the authority of the church. They are therefore outside the church and of the possibility of salvation.
If however a prostestant desires in good heart to be part of the church but is prevented or feels he can't for a variety of reasons, than that person has the possibility to be saved.
All of this stuff - universal salvation, salvation outside the Catholic Church, baptism of desire, etc. - began during Vatican II. While there were some bad Popes throughout history and there were some major crises that took place over the centuries, the dogma had always been the dogma. Suddenly, major dogmatic teachings of the Catholic Church did a 180 during the 1960s. Why did they change so radically? Why are Catholics now being told not to proselytize and not hold their Catholic faith whole and inviolate?
Unfortunately, we did not heed to the warnings of Roman Pontiffs who specifically mentioned these types of false doctrines invading the Church more than a century ago. True traditional Catholic Popes such as Leo XIII and St. Pius X warned us about freemasonry and modernism, respectively. Sadly, both of those evils have seduced many Catholics into thinking that this "modern" doctrine is the way, the truth and the life.
"Feeneyism" is a popular target for modernists. They like to think his teachings were novel or revolutionary, which is completely false. All Father Feeney did was preach the same message all the Church Fathers and Doctors had preached for centuries. Sadly, the bizarre admonishment of Feeney by his modernist overlords clearly proves that the demons of Vatican II were creeping into the churches and seminaries long before Vatican II actually happened.
If a non believer accept christ after death then can he be sent to heaven or Purgatory and after process of purification is given salvation
@@georgepenton808 what about purgatory?
Pope Pius IX next words after your quoted extract were “outside of the Catholic Church there is no salvation”
Regardless, if you are outside the church you’re chances of salvation drop and this is something for you to think about.
In your opinion
@@johnlewis6526 of course,what did you expect!
@@robertfliss2584 well my opinion differs a lot haha
@@johnlewis6526 Why should I care?You don’t have to answer to me.
@@robertfliss2584 well... same
Catholicism teachs a lot of false doctrines...
how can it be the true church of God?
What false doctrines, MyLuca?
@@GeorgePenton-np9rh many doctrines,
as pray Mary and saint, purgatory, pope, and so on...
It doesn't teach any false doctrines. Its the religion that Christ and the apostles established. That is why the apostles' creed says "I believe in the Holy Catholic Church".
@@anthonypuccetti8779 you are wrong, the apostles in Scripture NEVER speak of the Roman Catholic Church ...
The Catholic Church was born at the time of the Roman Empire, with Constantine.
In the Bible you will NEVER find the word "pope", because the papacy is not biblical, but human invention
So what happens if you give someone knowledge of the truth and they reject it? Does that person then fall under this teaching?
John 12:48
He who rejects Me and does not receive My sayings, has one who judges him; the word I spoke is what will judge him at the last day.
Of course, I would think that it does matter how much information that the person receives about Jesus, for them to be able to come to their own conclusion whether to accept or reject him. In the end, only Jesus knows what is in the heart of the person, and what they did with what was given to them, on this they will be judged.
Outside the Church, they mean outside the Roman Catholic Church? Or outside the Catholic Church? Or outside the Christian Church in general including all denominations?
This is a great video and explanation. I had a conversation about this a month ago with someone and struggled to explain, though this is essentially what I meant.
No it's not as the Novus Ordo sect, led by a publicly, manifest heretic is not Catholic and Jorge is no pope but the Antichrist! Obviously you have not been properly catechized and sure haven't a clue what our Lady of LaSalette warned about, which is playing out in front of your very eyes!
It is written in scripture that the Most High does not dwell in temples made by man’s hands... it is also written that the Lord is salvation. So God who the Most High can, does, and has saved many outside of a church building because to be saved you must believe in the name that saves which is Jesus.... whose name literally means Yah is salvation. Things are so much more simpler when the Holy Spirit teaches you
Jesus said the temple is the house of prayer to worship his Father
@@tasiaflynn3549 I don’t know where Jesus said that but Jesus did refer to the temple as the body and not a building.
@@ServantStatusMinistries do you go to the church
@@ServantStatusMinistries John 2:16-17 My devotion to your house, O God, burns in me like a fire
@@tasiaflynn3549 did you miss when I said that Jesus referred to His Body as the temple. The House of the Lord is the Body of the believers the Body of Christ. The building is where we meet.
ST. POPE JOHN PAUL II: “The universality of salvation means that it is granted not only to those who explicitly believe in Christ and have entered the church. Since salvation is offered to all, it must be made concretely available to all. But it is clear that today, as in the past, many people do not have an opportunity to come to know or accept the Gospel revelation or enter the Church. The social and cultural conditions in which they live do not permit this, and frequently they have been brought up in other religious traditions. For such people salvation in Christ is accessible by virtue of a grace, which, while having a mysterious relationship to the Church, does not make them formally part of the Church but enlightens them in a way which is accommodated to their spiritual and material situation. This grace comes from Christ; it is the result of his Sacrifice and is communicated by the Holy Spirit. It enables each person to attain salvation through his or her free cooperation.”
I think Charles Coulombe has a very good video on Feeneyism. The Feeney situation was handled very oddly by the Vatican. On another point, those outside the Church have no access to Reconciliation, making the deck kind of stacked against them as far as Salvation goes.
And not to mention-what if I’m in tribal Africa and the messenger sent is someone utterly inept? Would that count against me?
His book “Desire and Deception” is excellent
Correct... And no access to the Eucharist.
Feeney went too far. Feeney denied the possibility of baptism of desire, a long-held Church doctrine.
The true Catholic teaching is that outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation. But there are exceptional cases. Feeney would not admit exceptional cases.
Thank you Br Casey but I'll stay with our Lord on this one. If we truly believe that the Catholic Church is the one true Church and the Roman Pontiff is the Vicar of Christ, then we believe that when he speaks "ex cathedra", it is INFALLIBLE. Thus, this teaching below is directly from God our Lord and CANNOT be changed or be ignored:
“The Most Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that none of those existing outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans, also Jews, heretics, and schismatics can ever be partakers of eternal life, but that they are to go into the eternal fire ‘which was prepared for the devil and his angels’ (Mt. 25:41) unless before death they are joined with Her… No one, let his almsgiving be as great as it may, no one, even if he pour out his blood for the Name of Christ can be saved unless they abide within the bosom and unity of the Catholic Church.” -Pope Eugene IV, ex cathedra,
context, hector -- Br. Casey explained it
Ex cathedra declarations are only 2: about Mary, God's mother over the last 200 years. And these beliefs were already held by the people -- the sense of the faithful, so it was no problem. Encyclicals and sermons are meant to evolve as the Spirit reveals the Truth in time to the Church on earth.
@@splashpont Who told you that there are only two ex cathedra dogmas?
97pe the Church itself will tell you this. Ask your priest or bishop. There have only been two ex cathedra declarations by a pope: 1) The immaculate conception and 2) the ascension of Mary
@@trevorwilson6683 There may have been only a few infallible papal statements but there have been many, many infalluble statements from councils, and Pope Eugene's statement was part of the Council of Florence. (Incidentally the Eastern Orthodox returned to the Catholic Church at rhis council and said filioque didn't matter, but they soon all left again and started saying it did matter after all. Hopefully, after Russia converts [Our Lady of Fatima] maybe the rest of the Eastern Orthodox will, too.)
Our separation from God is a supernatural problem. No amount of our own work can get us there. Hence, we need a supernatural solution: the Sacraments. It's theoretically plausible that God can work outside the Sacraments (He is God, after all) to help those who have not received them. For instance, a person who wants to be baptized but is killed beforehand still is blessed for his desire for baptism.
How often does this happen? Well, God knows. Keep praying for the conversion of the whole world.
Yes my brother, that also reminds me of a certain theory that: Sin is brought about by a supernatural being like the devil, hence, it will take another super natural being to combat it. Any view in this matter?
@@erningpaguirigan5831
Hello, brother! I believe the correct view is thus:
In a theological sense, the devil is not a supernatural being. He is a præternatural being. Only God is supernatural Being (hence there are certain miracles that God can do that the devil cannot, though there are things that the devil can do that we cannot). The devil used to be an angel, and still holds such præternatural powers (which are above the natural order). However, he is severely limited in what God allows him to do (in the restrictive, not moral, sense; when I say "allow", I mean in the sense God allows me to sin as opposed to restraining my will and stopping me from sinning, and not as though He morally approves of said actions). For instance, God will not let the demons tempt us beyond our ability to resist a temptation.
We sin because we are weak willed, let our disordered passions get ahold of us in this fallen world, and because we are tempted by the devil.
All good comes from God, and without God's help, we cannot go any long time without mortal sin. We need to recognize that when we avoid sin, it is the grace of God that lets this happen. His goodness shows forth like a spring; He is Love. It has been said that when we pray for grace, we receive it in that instant. We need to grow more in God so that He can grow in us, that we take in more and more Grace and do not shut His Grace out.
God bless us, truly!
@@1001011011010 Thanks for the enlightenment brother. Gob bless you.
@Bobby Allen Read John 6:48-69.
1OO1O11O11O1O there is nothing in scripture about the sacraments. The Catholic Church made it up.
Thanks for making it clear as mud
It is a complicated matter.
What do you expect for a Vatican 2 apostate. Look into Most Holy Family Monastery they are one of the only Groups teaching the Faith whole and undefiled.
TheDixieBassMan why? Who are the other groups?
Royal Airships I Don’t know of any others unfortunately. I was lucky to find the one.The SSPX under Williamson are about the only place you can go for the sacraments and no be deluged by Hersey and being forced to embrace it. While many in that Group aren’t true Catholics the sacraments are indispensably valid.
Was Origen not a universalist?