well in my opinion, it's all about them and musics. all the things that they have sacrifices before debut and also after debut. In 3 years, how they have became one team named BTS, their feelings on stage, dealing with haters, that they will still be themselves, and their life where they have to struggle to become an artist. they are born singer.
Veronica Rivera Back at the start of their career, people would call him ugly. There were a lot of shit that happened. There were times that some netizens would tell him to leave the group, etc. So, that lyric is like a lowkey diss to those haters... But look at him now and the rest of the members... They're maturing but at the same time, the same, meme-y and talented Bangtan... I'm so proud. 😍😭
hoshi's hipthrusts will haunt your dreams tonight hank you so much for your reply! Wow that’s sad. I think he is soooo cute. He’s the first one I noticed lol. I’m so happy about their success too, in the little amount of time I’ve been a fan I can see how much they deserve all this. They are so extremely talented and genuinely amazing me !!
For me, this is the most fitting song to be added in their anthology album. It describes their journey as a band, their struggles, worries, and triumphs. It describes BTS
He is my bias and I really believe that he has opened doors to conversations about mental health, his journey which is ongoing, hopefully, if it makes a difference to 1 person, prevents ideation then I am as always proud of him but more so than ever.
Maknae Jae Yoonbae when they all turned around and started singing together I burst in to tears......and when I saw kookie I started sobbing into my pillow
The rap-line all killed their parts. J-hope's "Every moment I make sure not to lose my integrity, to always be myself so I don't embarrass the me from the beginning" really speaks to the character of BTS. No matter how successful and high they become, they never forget their roots and their original morals.
Listening to this song after We are bulletproof: the eternal, and... It just gets an entirely new feeling. They've really achieved success and happiness, after 7 years of hard work. 7 years of blood, sweat and tears.
the fact that this will be the first track on their anthology album. PROOF that their journey towards becoming the biggest band in the world was not easy
From being an un-monetized song on BANGTANTV 8 years ago, to now being the first song on the track list of the first CD of their anthology album, celebrating all their past and future wins, Born Singer has come a long way. It now sits proudly as PROOF to show that everything BTS said they’d do, they did. “ Every moment I strive to make sure not to lose my integrity To always be myself, so I don't embarrass the me from the beginning “ Imagine JHope performing that in 2022 knowing how proud they’ve made their past selves. This was always a song that ARMYs held close to their heart and Bangtan even closer, soon we’ll make it chart and help the world see once again how far BTS has come 💜
What’s awesome is that in the 2017 performance of this song, he actually changed the lyrics to “Hey kid whats your dream? Mine is to be the real me, can’t you feel”. I love seeing the small lyrical changes they do, because you can see their growth in mindset- 2017 Namjoon wants to be the real him, whilst 2013 Namjoon just wanted to be a rapper.
when they turn around from their circle to face the audience, and then the audience sing the chorus back to them as they silently mouth the words... just tears. how much their debut stage meant to them, how it must have felt to hear the audience affirm them in this video, and how much it still means to them now, to put this song as the first track on the album. bangtan never get too big for themselves, they never forget where they started from to get here. how i wish the boys could travel back in time to before debut, to reassure their younger selves that every drop of sweat, every tear will be worth it a thousand times over
Namjoon's passion delivery and lyrics give me goosebumps every time I listen to this. When he yells CAN'T YOU FEEL?? My hearttt. Namjoon you've proved it to them all - no one can deny your talent and passion. You said you were going to make it and you did x
Same. You know you’re a true army if this song brings tears to your eyes. Our boys have come so far. They have prospered and are getting the love And respect they’ve always deserved.
I'm a new ARMY and about to experience my first comeback. We just got the tracklist for the Anthology album today and Born Singer is song #1. I had heard the song in passing but hadn't looked it up yet. This video is stunning and I am even more excited to know that this will be the first song on their new album! Maybe we'll even get to see it in concert again someday!
Same! This song is amazing. Listening through all of their older music and I wish I would have listened to them sooner. It really is true that you find/fall in love with BTS when you need their music the most. 💜😭
oh geez ME. been listening to this since i became an army in 2017, but i just suddenly felt like watching this again after 2 years and damn, i never thought i'd cry even harder than i did when i first saw it.
"Sunglasses, hairstyle, I know why you ridicule me. In any case it's me who's gone further that you at age 20". RM really knows how to go for the kill.
Kim seokjin - the one that helped took care of 6 precious boys Thank you . Min Yoongi - The one that was passionate for music and lifting the musical life in bangtan . Thank you . Jung Hoseok - The one that ignored all hates from haters and antis for the real ARMYs that care for him and for his memebers to be happy . Thank you . Park Jimin - The most angelic member that took care of the others and cheer them up in their most depressed and stressful times . Thank you . Kim Taehyung - The member that worked hard and brang laughter towards both ARMY and BTS . The one who taught us to appreciate family . Thank You . Jeon Jungkook - The one whom most of us watched over since young and the one who pratically gave up school life for music and the one that showed much love to us . Thank you . and Kim Namjoon - The one who started bangtan . the one who started everything . We appreciate that . and ARMYs as well - We helped them the most we can and we know that we wouldn't be the one to marry them . We know they will disband one day . But we know . That no matter what happens , Bangtan will still be somewhere in our heart .
Kim Chaeran es muy triste esta musica que se trata la vida de bts me hizo llorar como lucharon para ser alguien en la vida no se rindieron y siguieron adelante sin importar lo imposible que estaba la vida siguieron adelante me admiran los quieros
Ahhhh! The tracklist 1 is out and the first song is Born Singer!!!!! "Let the haters hate on me, they've always been on it. While you all were teasing the keyboard, I fulfilled my dreams" is gonna hit sooooo different than in 2015! God! How to stop these tears now!
Namjoon is so under rated. I wish more ppl show him love. Love u rm. Ure the best rapper,best leader. Edit:when I mean under rated, it mean the popularity among the members. Namjoon's video always got the lowest views, merchandise always the last to sold out etc. I heart for him
Lol Not any more....If the 2013 Namjoon sees the 2019 Namjoon UN speaker , World class artist, LEADER of the biggest boy band in the world ....he would be fucking proud !
@@btspavedthewaythefact157 nope. Not now. Did you know that korean army planted a lot of trees in his recent birthday? And almost in every survey, k-army's keep saying that their ideal guy is rm💖
I mean under rated. Its compare to the maknae. His official merchandise is always the last to sold out. His fans are not as many as the maknae. The hyung lines, i adore and heartache for them
bts sang this in front of their parents,their family attended this concert...bts singing born singer in front of their parents with many fans gives me different type of feelings,they're for sure proud of them no matter what because their sons were born to be a singer
I will forever be thankful for having been an ARMY since 2014. There have been so many beautiful memories and I’m grateful to have been there for their their first win, their first concert at the Olympic Park, everything. I’ll be an ARMY till the day I die. 💜
the rapline's verses are so personal so emotional, especially yoongi and namjoon because back then their underground rapper peers were looking down on them and saying they've changed and betrayed the hiphop industry for going the idol route, so when yoongi says "This is how I am, did something about me change before your eyes? Damn Shit I'm still me, without change I keep my essence " and when namjoon says "I'm fucking real, "hey kid whats your dream?" Mine is to become a rapstar can't you feel" and they way you can tell they want to just scream those words out to the world, that they are the same despite the hate and stereotypes placed on them just because of the "idol" label. Now they've really achieved it, they become the global artist that they were born to be
Ahh yes ignore Hoseok like most do. You need to acknowledge Hoseok suffered from major depression and stress. He would constantly overwork himself. "I'm drenched with my blood sweat and tears." "Every moment I make sure not to lose my integrity To always be myself, so I don't embarrass the me from the beginning". You don't realize that how thats signifying his confidence in himself. He's afraid of how he is because he doesn't want to embarras himself or others.
@@shadowpelt7679 I dont think the person didnt intend to “ignore Jhope”. They said that the raplines lyrics were very emotional ESPECIALLY Namjoon and Yoongi. But yess your comment about Jhope needed to be said. Others should know about what he went through and appreciate him. Back then, Jhope received barely any fan mail while the other members received some. I can’t imagine how he must have felt. It hurts me that some people didnt show the support he deserved. But as the years went by, they gained more international fans and more people started to appreciate him. Also, Namjoon said somewhere that Jhope is the backbone of BTS. He is truly amazing and hardworking. His music and himself as a person inspires me so much. :)))
the fact that they wrote this about how it felt performing for a few hundred people, and now 9 years later they're the number 1 global recording artist, selling out the biggest stadiums in the world, with millions of fans. so happy and so proud of our 7 angels, can't wait to hear this on PROOF
Oh lord😭 and also jimin has spoken during his live about how all of them become emotional while singing this song. Now that they've reached new heights, i can't wait to see this. I'll be a mess😭😭
This is too personal for them especially Suga and RM. Their raps are fire. And Jhope's rap always provides the spice to the song. They are truly an artists no matter how ppl discredit them for being one.
the confession they feel is now history for bts and the army... the time they fought was not alone there was an army that helped so they didn't feel lonely anymore
And now they’re back with this song again in 2022, with the new anthology album, Proof. Feels as if, they’ve come to a full circle. So so proud of these boys🥺😭💜 Ufff, will the lyrics too change from “in 3 year’s time” to “in 8 year’s time”? 😭🥺
Thank you to my beautiful daughter Kaylan for exposing me to BTS!!! I am a 47-year-old black man who has been in the Army for about a year now and flew my daughter to NYC to see them!!! Congrats to one of the greatest groups ever!!! GO ARMY!!!
Ty Taylor your daughter is extremely lucky to have you, I have accepted the fact I will never see bts or the fact my freinds or family will keep making fun of them, keep your daughter happy
This is my all time favourite BTS song and performance. Even though its not even an official song or the best produced one. Because it represents them, their dream, their hard work to get to where they are. Amazing.
MidnightEkaki to shatter ur world it is even a cover from a song called born sinner. So they "only" changed the lyrics. But I like this a lot more than the original T_T~
This song represents them. No choreography, just their emotions. This was performed years ago when they we're just starting to grow. They've gone through a lot of hardships and made it. I am so proud of them it makes me cry😭😭💜
i’m a late army also and i just got active on following bts recently, i’ve been bawling my eyes out with We Are Bulletproof: The Eternal. Same as u i was like “what was that BTS song that made me cry years ago?”
My only regret being in this fandom is Not being There in their early day, im gonna be living with this regret for the rest of my life N its not even my fault. 😭😭😭😭
Same. Im only a really young international army and I wish I was there to have supported them in 2013. I seriously wish I had known about them earlier.
I just think it was meant to be this way. The hardships they faced in their early years is what has made them what they are today. No matter at what time we became armys we still love them equally
this is why BTS succeeded, this is why they are at the top, this is why they are loved and supported... their friendship, their passion, honesty, their genuine love for music, their growth as individuals and musicians... all the struggles and obstacles...we overcame them together, because we only had each other... despite the entire industry treating them like shit, trying to shadow their success, hiding their achievements because they were a threat to big companies...not even mentioning that their own country only cared about them and claimed them after they began to shine in the US, not before...but they are filling stadiums now, getting worldwide recognition, getting awards and their names being known around the world... Just as Namjoon said: "You and I, we will win in the end. We will win so naturally making sure no one see us coming" no matter how many of y'all hate bts or us, the truth is you haters were and still are bitter that they succeeded when no one thought they would come this far...their dreams, goals, achievements were belittled, their milestones minimized, their growth was seen as suspicious and they endured hundreds of calumnies, their fandom demonized simply because we cared for them and them only, and yet, y'all antis want what they have now.... So what are you waiting for? Open Spotify and play their album. Keep loving and supporting BTS music, because that's what this is all about...their core, soul, their voice.
I've NEVER felt so proud of a celebrities before. Remember when they were giving out tickets to people to go watch their performance? Now look at them, they don't need to do that anymore. The tickets sell out really quickly. I'm so proud of these boys.
Ikr? It feels weird & scary sometimes; how strongly I feel for these 7 men. I've always been a music lover, but never have I liked another artist the way I like Bangtan. Not even through my teenage years. They have changed & influenced my life so much, it feels almost unreal.
People always call be a disgrace for liking BTS. They thought BTS were just a stupid group. I just want to tell them to watch this. Passion is something I lack in life. I used to just do shit for no reason, because I was forced to do it. When I found BTS, they showed me what TRUE passion is. Passion comes from within. Passion is what I have learned from BTS. We have to work hard for what we want. I'm thankful BTS taught me that
ltellybellyl i realized this just lately. Been following what the other people want but BTS made sure the impact pf realizing this stays in me though I’ve only been a fan after the Billboard and AMAs
Inside that circle, you see,they were facing their real self, keeping aside the persona they created for us. They weren't a BTS we know, they were imperfect people full of insecurities and they were vulnerable, were hurt and broken into pieces but that's who they are and that what we are. They are not the idol who are perfect but are the idol who we look up to, who make us happy everyday and we don't need a perfect things to be happy. Because they are imperfect we can relate with the word they say and their story. So instead of loving them at their best, lets love and support them whoever they become at the future because since the day 1 we don't fully know them so we can't judge them right?
Hey can you please listen my Friends cover song.. She's a good singer She had did cover of this song too It will be so great of you if you did.💜💜ruclips.net/video/AO41TKklfM0/видео.html
The way they're positioned when singing "Born Singer" can mean so much. Hear me out. We see them start the song facing each other and then ending it facing away from each other. It means they all started together, facing each other for hope, motivation, encouragement, support, and many more. But eventually they will face challenges and hardships that will test their bond, is this fame or is this family? Eventually they will turn their backs on each other one day. But on the Wings tour final, we see them start the song backs facing each other and ending it facing each other. No matter how much they go through and all the temptations of fame and success, they will always face back each other, to the family they have formed through the years of BTS, to each other that helped get them to where they are right now. They will always find their way back to each other.
Davee Doodle this speaks volume. They are so so genuine and passionate about everything its just insane. All of my respect goes to them. They definitely deserve it
RM's 'Hey kid what's your dream?' Mine is to become a rapstar can't you feel.' makes me feel all types of emotional idk but that particular line and the way he says it seems so sincere.
In the end of 2018?? Today was the day when Jin said that they almost disbanded and today I saw BTS win a big award and BTS & ARMY cried, today was the day when we are proud of each other because we have each other.... Today was the day when BTS SAID THANK YOU TO ARMY AND ARMY SAID THANK YOU BTS 💜 *I* *PURPLE* *YOU* 💜
No group is -as passionate -as humble -as hardworking -as determined -as heartwarming -has as meaningful lyrics As BTS Edit: it's been 9 months (???) since I first posted this comment and I'm seeing a lot of hateful replies. 1. I'm a multi stan so please don't tell me I'm being biased. 2. I'm not meaning any hate! It's just that BTS is a group that really stands out for me and means a lot to me since I'm quite old to kpop. 3. I said 'no group', but I didn't liTerAlly mean it. It's an exaggeration?? Again, just because I think this, doesn't mean others will too. 4. Don't attack me please, I'm not trying to be toxic to anyone or group. Anyways, please continue to support our boys 😔 💜
@@lenseofleni to your ans is maybe u are a multistan or a hater if your a hater not my problem at least u know bts but they don't know u, u give them attention that's how famous they reach cause u keep calling their name out of your ignorant mouth 🙄🙄😒😒😒 thank God my boyz teach us not to listen to haters but to ignore them
2020 and I’m here still watching this. There’s really something about this song that brings out the emotions and tears. You can see their passion in the lyrics as well as their hardships and insecurities. Now reflecting on how big they’ve come, anyone can see that they came from humble beginnings what with being a small company at the time. They aren’t immune to feeling tired, despair about the future but you can see them pushing on for their dreams. Now that they’ve made it, you can reflect on the stark contrast of their lyrics to Black Swan and I think it’s beautiful how you can see their growth, their shifting perspectives, THEIR STORY through their songs. Respect to Bangtan, hard-earned respect. It’s a whole rollercoaster this song.
same. There really is something that gets you emotional in this song. its their passion and how they arent afraid of confronting their problems becaus ethey know that we will never leave them
I've never watched this performance coz I know it would emotionally hurt me somehow. The way they were singing so intimately in that circle, it's like assuring each other that they would be doing music no matter what by supporting each other and after at the last they turned towards Armys coz Armys are their support system. It makes more sad coz I can literally hear their emotions n the way they were maybe feeling overwhelmed n heartbreak through their voices and even with their expression. Now look how far they have come and I'm so proud of them. I literally teared up watching this while my heartached. So happy they included this beautiful song in their anthology album.
Stardust foufa who wouldn't cry. I cried soo much I want to buy this song I love them soo much if they die I will be soo sad I would be really sad that I wouldnt know what to do anymore.
A lot of people ask me, why are you obsess with them? My answer? Because they are not just dancing or singing for popularity they're singing about their life, their story!❤ we will always love you Bangtan!💕
this song really makes me cry😭😣 ..... our boys really doing their best to make us (ARMY) and their family proud.....this is one of the most beautiful song ive ever heard😇😍
j-hope transition from singing to rapping really amazed me his a multi talented idol... not to mentioned his a good dancer though... how can i not love him 😍😍😍
Listening to this after hearing bts’s military announcement hits different seeing how far they’ve come and how far they are going to go is amazing we purple you bts 💜
This is BTS own version of J.Cole's "Born Sinner". Respect the original. ^^
well in my opinion, it's all about them and musics. all the things that they have sacrifices before debut and also after debut. In 3 years, how they have became one team named BTS, their feelings on stage, dealing with haters, that they will still be themselves, and their life where they have to struggle to become an artist. they are born singer.
what? no..they are not. well, they will be disband someday. but dear, NOT TODAY ^^
Kizzant Gibson- Goldcrest PS (1427) No honey this was years ago. But his song holds so much meaning behind it for all ARMY.
WHAT J.COLE?!I NEVER KNEW CAN I HAVE SOME MORE INFO PLEASE!?if you don't mind
Suga Nevermind what country is that
Before "we are bulletproof the eternal" we had this song.
ikr ):
Yes😭💜💜
Yesss 😭💜
and young forever );
And Sea😭😭😭😭😭
"Sun glasses, hair style. I know why you ridicule me. In any case, it's me who's gone further than you at age 20." RM nailed it.
It breaks my heart that he gotten hate from that.I love RM so much, bias forever
I am a new fan, after the AMAs I became obsessed! Can someone please explain what hate he got 😩 I love RM
Veronica Rivera Back at the start of their career, people would call him ugly. There were a lot of shit that happened. There were times that some netizens would tell him to leave the group, etc. So, that lyric is like a lowkey diss to those haters... But look at him now and the rest of the members... They're maturing but at the same time, the same, meme-y and talented Bangtan... I'm so proud. 😍😭
hoshi's hipthrusts will haunt your dreams tonight hank you so much for your reply! Wow that’s sad. I think he is soooo cute. He’s the first one I noticed lol. I’m so happy about their success too, in the little amount of time I’ve been a fan I can see how much they deserve all this. They are so extremely talented and genuinely amazing me !!
Veronica Rivera yasssss new ARMYs 😍😍😍 Thank you for being part of this growing fandom 😄😄😄
For me, this is the most fitting song to be added in their anthology album. It describes their journey as a band, their struggles, worries, and triumphs. It describes BTS
I almost cried when I saw they added it on there honestly. This song makes me cry, and makes me so proud of how far they have come
And now we have proof with born singer and they performed it too.. am not crying •_•
Suga's part was so strong...I cried....
He is my bias and I really believe that he has opened doors to conversations about mental health, his journey which is ongoing, hopefully, if it makes a difference to 1 person, prevents ideation then I am as always proud of him but more so than ever.
I agree
Me too, I zoomed in on his face & he has tears streaming down his face. Then I did also, I was so moved .
*starts to cry, but tries holding the, back*
*notice jungkook holding in tears*
*burst out with tears*
Maknae Jae Yoonbae when they all turned around and started singing together I burst in to tears......and when I saw kookie I started sobbing into my pillow
Maknae Jae Yoonbae don't make me cry
Kalena Xiong it makes me cry
Maknae Jae Yoonbae I CRIED SO MUCH
Same
Who wants BTS to perform born singer in 2020 ??
Yes why aren't they performing
I wish after pandemic they perform their old songs like two three,Move and lost
Edit: Thankyou for 6 likes☺💜💜
Laxmi Ramtel it’s called a pandemic 😑
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Meeee💜
The rap-line all killed their parts. J-hope's "Every moment I make sure not to lose my integrity, to always be myself so I don't embarrass the me from the beginning" really speaks to the character of BTS. No matter how successful and high they become, they never forget their roots and their original morals.
This stage is honestly HONESTLY ONE OF BTS's BEST STAGE. The amount of emotions pour into this song. I swear
I swear too, I'm good
"Let the haters hate on me. It's a day job they've always been at. While you all were teasing the keyboard, I fulfilled my dreams". - RM
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I swear I love them the most in the world 😣😣😣
Urghh the words hit me so hard
Listening to this song after We are bulletproof: the eternal, and... It just gets an entirely new feeling. They've really achieved success and happiness, after 7 years of hard work. 7 years of blood, sweat and tears.
this is me RIGHT NOW im in tears
We've come all the way
SAME
Me too sis omg the tEARS-
i’m crying at 3 am
the fact that this will be the first track on their anthology album. PROOF that their journey towards becoming the biggest band in the world was not easy
From being an un-monetized song on BANGTANTV 8 years ago, to now being the first song on the track list of the first CD of their anthology album, celebrating all their past and future wins, Born Singer has come a long way. It now sits proudly as PROOF to show that everything BTS said they’d do, they did.
“ Every moment I strive to make sure not to lose my integrity
To always be myself, so I don't embarrass the me from the beginning “
Imagine JHope performing that in 2022 knowing how proud they’ve made their past selves. This was always a song that ARMYs held close to their heart and Bangtan even closer, soon we’ll make it chart and help the world see once again how far BTS has come 💜
Your comment!!! OMG you're so articulate with your words, every single thing you said is absolutely true. Excited for PROOF💜
The fact I won't ever hear this live kinda breaks my heart
Nooo....💜😭
Fuega23 , the fact i wont ever see them live breaks my heart
@@ravens6529 well same
You never know 😭 ( but same )
bRO ME TOO
"Hey, kid what's your dream?" Mine is to be a rap star can't you feel
CHILLS
Ikr😔
yes!!! 💜
I wanna be a singer 💜
Fuckin' real 💜
What’s awesome is that in the 2017 performance of this song, he actually changed the lyrics to “Hey kid whats your dream? Mine is to be the real me, can’t you feel”. I love seeing the small lyrical changes they do, because you can see their growth in mindset- 2017 Namjoon wants to be the real him, whilst 2013 Namjoon just wanted to be a rapper.
when they turn around from their circle to face the audience, and then the audience sing the chorus back to them as they silently mouth the words... just tears. how much their debut stage meant to them, how it must have felt to hear the audience affirm them in this video, and how much it still means to them now, to put this song as the first track on the album. bangtan never get too big for themselves, they never forget where they started from to get here. how i wish the boys could travel back in time to before debut, to reassure their younger selves that every drop of sweat, every tear will be worth it a thousand times over
Namjoon's passion delivery and lyrics give me goosebumps every time I listen to this. When he yells CAN'T YOU FEEL?? My hearttt. Namjoon you've proved it to them all - no one can deny your talent and passion. You said you were going to make it and you did x
this song... actually brings tears on my eyes... especially RM's part...
Kimbap Kidding ikr
then followed jin's hook. huuhu.
Same. You know you’re a true army if this song brings tears to your eyes. Our boys have come so far. They have prospered and are getting the love
And respect they’ve always deserved.
Ya, suga's part oso
let's appreciate hoseoks part too for a sec... his part mightve been short but you can feel all the strong emotions in it, i love it):
U know what makes bts different than any group. it because BTS sings they life. while some other groups sing what were given to them.
100% agreed
finally someone said it.
Nur Atiqah Abdul Wahab Accurate.
True. They have gone through a lot of hardships in their lives.
EXACTLY💓💓
"I make sure not to lose my integrity, to always be myself so I dont embarress the me from the beginning."
Jhope's part make me burst in tears 🥺❤️
I'm a new ARMY and about to experience my first comeback. We just got the tracklist for the Anthology album today and Born Singer is song #1. I had heard the song in passing but hadn't looked it up yet. This video is stunning and I am even more excited to know that this will be the first song on their new album! Maybe we'll even get to see it in concert again someday!
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Mee too
Me too. Came here as soon as I saw this on the track list to proof. I feel like we are learning a lot of older songs. I love this 💜
Same! This song is amazing. Listening through all of their older music and I wish I would have listened to them sooner. It really is true that you find/fall in love with BTS when you need their music the most. 💜😭
Nice meeting you I'm old army 💜
This song has gained even more meaning over the years and is just a masterpiece.
im the 1000th liker In this comment
J Coles masterpiece . 2013 born sinner
Yes
So true 🙏
Yes exactly
Who's here on 2021 watching this while crying cause they have come so far... Can't be more proud
Me, words can’t explain how proud I am of them
i’m so emotional rn
Im a new army, and damn
Just cryin...
oh geez ME. been listening to this since i became an army in 2017, but i just suddenly felt like watching this again after 2 years and damn, i never thought i'd cry even harder than i did when i first saw it.
Stunned by Hobi’s rap. He just pushed the song to the climax. Teary-eyed
"Sunglasses, hairstyle, I know why you ridicule me. In any case it's me who's gone further that you at age 20". RM really knows how to go for the kill.
Bout Jungkook voic puro ♥️😍😍😍😍😍🙏
Kim seokjin - the one that helped took care of 6 precious boys Thank you .
Min Yoongi - The one that was passionate for music and lifting the musical life in bangtan . Thank you .
Jung Hoseok - The one that ignored all hates from haters and antis for the real ARMYs that care for him and for his memebers to be happy .
Thank you .
Park Jimin - The most angelic member that took care of the others and cheer them up in their most depressed and stressful times .
Thank you .
Kim Taehyung - The member that worked hard and brang laughter towards both ARMY and BTS . The one who taught us to appreciate family .
Thank You .
Jeon Jungkook - The one whom most of us watched over since young and the one who pratically gave up school life for music and the one that showed much love to us .
Thank you .
and Kim Namjoon - The one who started bangtan . the one who started everything . We appreciate that .
and ARMYs as well - We helped them the most we can and we know that we wouldn't be the one to marry them . We know they will disband one day . But we know . That no matter what happens , Bangtan will still be somewhere in our heart .
que triste esto
Kim Chaeran this comment made me cry of how far we have come. Thank you ARMY.
Kim Chaeran NO... tears? What tears? those aren't tears, my eyes are just sweating :3
Well, now I'm crying
Kim Chaeran es muy triste esta musica que se trata la vida de bts me hizo llorar como lucharon para ser alguien en la vida no se rindieron y siguieron adelante sin importar lo imposible que estaba la vida siguieron adelante me admiran los quieros
Imagine bts singing I'm a born singer at their last concert😭😭😭😭💔💔💔
OMG I dont even wont that ro be in my mind. I'll cry like shit!!!!!
I dont even want to imagine it!!!!!!!😭😭
Ah noo you make me cry with just imagine it 😭😭
That hit me in the heart
i dont even want to imagine it... im crying so hard now 😔 it breaks my heart damn
If this song makes it to the Anthology, I am gonna cry rivers.
hoping with all my heart it’s in there .. i wonder if there might be copyright issues or smth since it’s a remake of another song
You can cry now bro it's first on tracklist
Ahhhh! The tracklist 1 is out and the first song is Born Singer!!!!! "Let the haters hate on me, they've always been on it. While you all were teasing the keyboard, I fulfilled my dreams" is gonna hit sooooo different than in 2015! God! How to stop these tears now!
@@dailydoseofbts6725 OMG I CANT BELIEVE WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT IT AND IT WAS ACTYALLY TRACK 1 OMGGG
Bro I hope you're not drowned, it's coming tomorrow
The whole song is 100/100 but when JK suddenly changed the notes in last part that was countless 💜
Namjoon is so under rated. I wish more ppl show him love. Love u rm. Ure the best rapper,best leader.
Edit:when I mean under rated, it mean the popularity among the members. Namjoon's video always got the lowest views, merchandise always the last to sold out etc. I heart for him
Lol Not any more....If the 2013 Namjoon sees the 2019 Namjoon UN speaker , World class artist, LEADER of the biggest boy band in the world ....he would be fucking proud !
He is so underrated in his own country
@@btspavedthewaythefact157 nope. Not now. Did you know that korean army planted a lot of trees in his recent birthday? And almost in every survey, k-army's keep saying that their ideal guy is rm💖
he wasnt! he is THE rapper, THE leader, OUR namjoon
I mean under rated. Its compare to the maknae. His official merchandise is always the last to sold out. His fans are not as many as the maknae. The hyung lines, i adore and heartache for them
BTS: I’m a born singer
Me: I’m a born ARMY 💜
They were born to be singers
We were born to be fans of those singers 💜
YAASSSSSS
wise words..
Literally my moms an army
Saniyia Howard omgosh saaaame
I’m so so so happy this made it onto the track list for “Proof”. One of my most favorite songs ever.
coming back here after watching j-hope "on the street" feat j-cole :') they have come so far, i'm so proud of them
bts sang this in front of their parents,their family attended this concert...bts singing born singer in front of their parents with many fans gives me different type of feelings,they're for sure proud of them no matter what because their sons were born to be a singer
We’re Suga parents there too because I heard that they really didn’t support him or sum?
@@monii559 their family came so yes,yoongi's parents came too
😭😭😭
yes! :)
Bang Bang Con was BTS online streamed concert held on April 10, 2020.
This song is truly sung from their hearts. I love it.
Christina Oyebade agree. You can feel how deep it is from their heart. ❤️
Christina Oyebade same
I felt it too fam I'm balling rn that was touching and beautiful
nah its the beat that really gets you, J cole is too good
ur right...i cried so hard
Rewatching this in 2023 and I am still crying 😢
I will forever be thankful for having been an ARMY since 2014. There have been so many beautiful memories and I’m grateful to have been there for their their first win, their first concert at the Olympic Park, everything. I’ll be an ARMY till the day I die. 💜
❤
It's 2019, and Im still crying over this song and performance
edit: i never thought that this would get allot of like wow 😲 THANK YOU ❣
Same!😟😟
Same it's so emotional 😭😭
ME TOO I CRY EVERY TIME LISTEN TO THIS SONG!!!
Honestly, I have grown emotionally attached to this song since the first time I have heard this 💜
me too ;////
the rapline's verses are so personal so emotional, especially yoongi and namjoon because back then their underground rapper peers were looking down on them and saying they've changed and betrayed the hiphop industry for going the idol route, so when yoongi says "This is how I am, did something about me change before your eyes? Damn Shit I'm still me, without change I keep my essence " and when namjoon says "I'm fucking real, "hey kid whats your dream?" Mine is to become a rapstar can't you feel" and they way you can tell they want to just scream those words out to the world, that they are the same despite the hate and stereotypes placed on them just because of the "idol" label. Now they've really achieved it, they become the global artist that they were born to be
Success is the sweetest revenge!!!
I cant stop crying. Im so proud of them. They dont deserve any ounce of hate yet people still shit on their name
Ahh yes ignore Hoseok like most do. You need to acknowledge Hoseok suffered from major depression and stress. He would constantly overwork himself. "I'm drenched with my blood sweat and tears." "Every moment I make sure not to lose my integrity
To always be myself, so I don't embarrass the me from the beginning". You don't realize that how thats signifying his confidence in himself. He's afraid of how he is because he doesn't want to embarras himself or others.
@@shadowpelt7679 I dont think the person didnt intend to “ignore Jhope”. They said that the raplines lyrics were very emotional ESPECIALLY Namjoon and Yoongi.
But yess your comment about Jhope needed to be said. Others should know about what he went through and appreciate him. Back then, Jhope received barely any fan mail while the other members received some. I can’t imagine how he must have felt. It hurts me that some people didnt show the support he deserved. But as the years went by, they gained more international fans and more people started to appreciate him. Also, Namjoon said somewhere that Jhope is the backbone of BTS. He is truly amazing and hardworking. His music and himself as a person inspires me so much. :)))
I'm glad they choose to be in bts. An idol.
the fact that they wrote this about how it felt performing for a few hundred people, and now 9 years later they're the number 1 global recording artist, selling out the biggest stadiums in the world, with millions of fans. so happy and so proud of our 7 angels, can't wait to hear this on PROOF
This song hit me hard. imagine if bts sing this song at anniversary 9th 😭😭😭
Oh lord😭 and also jimin has spoken during his live about how all of them become emotional while singing this song. Now that they've reached new heights, i can't wait to see this. I'll be a mess😭😭
They’ll do probably in promotions of Proof album
🖤
💔
"While you all were teasing the keyboard, I fulfilled my dreams, in any case, it's me who's gone further than you at age 20" - Kim Namjoon
Bro that hit hard fr.
True words
This is too personal for them especially Suga and RM. Their raps are fire. And Jhope's rap always provides the spice to the song. They are truly an artists no matter how ppl discredit them for being one.
❤
the confession they feel is now history for bts and the army... the time they fought was not alone there was an army that helped so they didn't feel lonely anymore
Suga always the best
@@qearaaa01 yes, he is 💜💜👍👍
Absolutely 😭
And now they’re back with this song again in 2022, with the new anthology album, Proof. Feels as if, they’ve come to a full circle. So so proud of these boys🥺😭💜
Ufff, will the lyrics too change from “in 3 year’s time” to “in 8 year’s time”? 😭🥺
Jung Hoseok's vocal is so lit!!!!
Thank you to my beautiful daughter Kaylan for exposing me to BTS!!! I am a 47-year-old black man who has been in the Army for about a year now and flew my daughter to NYC to see them!!! Congrats to one of the greatest groups ever!!!
GO ARMY!!!
Ty Taylor it’s great to see such diverse people in the army. They appeal to all ages!
YOU ARE THE BEST PARENT EVER I SOB
Ty Taylor you're one of the coolest dads ever.
COOLEST. PARENT. EVER. And thanks to your daughter, we have an amazing person in our fandom.
Ty Taylor your daughter is extremely lucky to have you, I have accepted the fact I will never see bts or the fact my freinds or family will keep making fun of them, keep your daughter happy
Imagine them singing this at their last and final concert , the feels 😧😭
They really r Born Singers ~ 💜💜👑
when this come to my mind I am starting crying..I just can't imagine them disbanding..There is going to be so many broken hearts😭😭
Why you gotta make me emotional like that 😭😭
wife same I'm crying to I love them to much 😭
Ba Bangtan it makes me want to cry lol
Ba Bangtan i just dont need to imagine it😢😢😢
All these years later BTS really put born singer in their album!
here after the release of cd 1 tracklist of PROOF. i am gonna cry if they sing this live in their 9th anniv 😭😭😭💜
This is my all time favourite BTS song and performance. Even though its not even an official song or the best produced one. Because it represents them, their dream, their hard work to get to where they are. Amazing.
MidnightEkaki to shatter ur world it is even a cover from a song called born sinner. So they "only" changed the lyrics. But I like this a lot more than the original T_T~
J Cole's original has a kkt moee heart and deeo meaning and is all around better but this is pretty good
Craig Donnelly well of course you can't compare it to the original.. I'm saying this as a BTS fan.
MidnightEkaki same here
MidnightEkaki I guess that’s true but this song still holds a lot of meaning for them and Armys.. cover or not
This song represents them. No choreography, just their emotions. This was performed years ago when they we're just starting to grow. They've gone through a lot of hardships and made it. I am so proud of them it makes me cry😭😭💜
I feel ya!😟😢
IM CRYING!! LOOKIN AT THEM RN AaaaAAaaAAa THEY MADE IT!
Waiting for proof who's watching this masterpiece?
why do i tear uo each time i hear this? especially RM's part, his emotion coming through so raw. I love you BTS, OT7!
*{ the song that rescues me over and over }* When the boys turn to the crowd, and JK's eyes tear up, NO group comes close to the passion of this singular song. I believe this version honors J. Cole SO much, my only wish was that they would sing it on their last tour, for me September 12, 2018, Oakland, California. I am 63 years old and these boys take me straight back to the 1960"s welcoming The Beatles to America, when I fell head over heels in love, and now, think about it, in the name Beatles are the letters BTS. And I am crazy in love with BTS, my age does not matter one bit, I am Army. ©️army
You truly are an amazing, and loving person. God bless you. It's good to know there are ARMYS, young and old. Have an amazing day :)
Please don’t overstress your self
And I'm very proud of you😭😭💜🛡️
All i can say 💜💜💜💜
Grandma...I was proud of you because you love them like their are your own kids...😊😊😍😍😍😱😱
me as a late army:
"what was that song that made me cry so hard back then?"
then I succesfully found it
Try also to search their song Good Day, it's also emotional
Mirza Sikander same
i’m a late army also and i just got active on following bts recently, i’ve been bawling my eyes out with We Are Bulletproof: The Eternal. Same as u i was like “what was that BTS song that made me cry years ago?”
Same here. I am a new army and when I heard of this song, it made me cry.
And young forever
U have to add that
the mirage that seemed so far away is now before the worlds eyes
finally this tearjerker masterpiece moving to spotify 😭😭😭😭😭😭
My only regret being in this fandom is Not being There in their early day, im gonna be living with this regret for the rest of my life N its not even my fault. 😭😭😭😭
Same here I wish I became an ARMY earlier
Same here 😭😭
Same. Im only a really young international army and I wish I was there to have supported them in 2013. I seriously wish I had known about them earlier.
I just think it was meant to be this way. The hardships they faced in their early years is what has made them what they are today. No matter at what time we became armys we still love them equally
Yeah me too
Rapmon rap to haters: At least I am the one who's gone further than you at 20.
Any words, haters?
I love that this has no comments
Haters have no response BTS is too good for hawed no matter how much hate is out there
Evelyn Gonzalez haters are speechless.
likes: 666...i dont wanna change it...
I'm here shedding tears after BTS announcement🫶 🫶
This is the root of BTS. Proud of you.
this is why BTS succeeded, this is why they are at the top, this is why they are loved and supported...
their friendship, their passion, honesty, their genuine love for music, their growth as individuals and musicians...
all the struggles and obstacles...we overcame them together, because we only had each other...
despite the entire industry treating them like shit, trying to shadow their success, hiding their achievements because they were a threat to big companies...not even mentioning that their own country only cared about them and claimed them after they began to shine in the US, not before...but they are filling stadiums now, getting worldwide recognition, getting awards and their names being known around the world...
Just as Namjoon said: "You and I, we will win in the end. We will win so naturally making sure no one see us coming"
no matter how many of y'all hate bts or us, the truth is you haters were and still are bitter that they succeeded when no one thought they would come this far...their dreams, goals, achievements were belittled, their milestones minimized, their growth was seen as suspicious and they endured hundreds of calumnies, their fandom demonized simply because we cared for them and them only, and yet, y'all antis want what they have now....
So what are you waiting for? Open Spotify and play their album. Keep loving and supporting BTS music, because that's what this is all about...their core, soul, their voice.
This needs more likes.
As a 5 years army,I'm crying reading this comment 😭
💜💜💜
manu strella well said👍👍👍
this comment is underrated
I've NEVER felt so proud of a celebrities before.
Remember when they were giving out tickets to people to go watch their performance?
Now look at them, they don't need to do that anymore. The tickets sell out really quickly.
I'm so proud of these boys.
Ikr? It feels weird & scary sometimes; how strongly I feel for these 7 men. I've always been a music lover, but never have I liked another artist the way I like Bangtan. Not even through my teenage years. They have changed & influenced my life so much, it feels almost unreal.
iMrAwesomeYT I have listened to the original. It’s a beautiful piece aswell.
I'm crying
Oh sweety, you made cry. :')
Astaeful Today the boy(s) become(s) (a) god(s) said me, a mean a great man, I meant wise man.....oh shit, great wise man!!!!!yeah.
THE REAL BORN SINGERS WHO COULD IMAGINE THEY COULD BECOME ONE OF THE GREATEST BOY GROUPS IN HISTORY
From sampling JCole... to doing a song with JCole.. BTS because an inspiration for many by fulfilling their own dreams first
RM's rap is on another level
No doubt
Yeah..
*Nods head aggressively just like in Daechwita mv*
@@prinshiahirwar5698 who's the king who's the boss 😂😂💜
People always call be a disgrace for liking BTS. They thought BTS were just a stupid group. I just want to tell them to watch this. Passion is something I lack in life. I used to just do shit for no reason, because I was forced to do it. When I found BTS, they showed me what TRUE passion is. Passion comes from within. Passion is what I have learned from BTS.
We have to work hard for what we want. I'm thankful BTS taught me that
ltellybellyl i realized this just lately. Been following what the other people want but BTS made sure the impact pf realizing this stays in me though I’ve only been a fan after the Billboard and AMAs
Aw me too. I am so much more passionate about life and working hard because of BTS.
ltellybellyl I cant believe this isnt pined
holy crap i can relate so much to that
No better words said.
Came back here bcs this song is gonna be in proof 😭
We are officially getting this on platforms😭
Inside that circle, you see,they were facing their real self, keeping aside the persona they created for us. They weren't a BTS we know, they were imperfect people full of insecurities and they were vulnerable, were hurt and broken into pieces but that's who they are and that what we are. They are not the idol who are perfect but are the idol who we look up to, who make us happy everyday and we don't need a perfect things to be happy. Because they are imperfect we can relate with the word they say and their story. So instead of loving them at their best, lets love and support them whoever they become at the future because since the day 1 we don't fully know them so we can't judge them right?
Hey can you please listen my
Friends cover song.. She's a good singer
She had did cover of this song too
It will be so great of you if you did.💜💜ruclips.net/video/AO41TKklfM0/видео.html
True .. that's really good...no one is perfect 💜💜
"While you all were teasing the keyboard, I fulfilled my dreams, in any case, it's me who's gone further than you at age 20" - Kim Namjoon
True!
Well said.
The way they're positioned when singing "Born Singer" can mean so much. Hear me out.
We see them start the song facing each other and then ending it facing away from each other. It means they all started together, facing each other for hope, motivation, encouragement, support, and many more. But eventually they will face challenges and hardships that will test their bond, is this fame or is this family? Eventually they will turn their backs on each other one day.
But on the Wings tour final, we see them start the song backs facing each other and ending it facing each other. No matter how much they go through and all the temptations of fame and success, they will always face back each other, to the family they have formed through the years of BTS, to each other that helped get them to where they are right now.
They will always find their way back to each other.
Davee Doodle this speaks volume. They are so so genuine and passionate about everything its just insane. All of my respect goes to them. They definitely deserve it
I hate you for commenting this. I'm sobbing. 😢
That is cool. I totally agree.
Davee Doodle damm i just finished crying then i saw this now im cryin all over again because that was so true and deep
boi
I just wanna hug Yoongi as tight as humanly possible.
I can't believe we will be having this track in the album. I'm so proud. You did it boys!
My chest gets so heavy everytime I watch this performance. No choreography, just raw emotion and lyrics straight from the core.
that L that jimin handed every army in the J1D mv same
I'm... I mean... Damn...🔥🔥🔥
I get a bit teary and I get goose bumps down my spine because I can really feel the emotion, I can hear it’s from their heart
Can we atlas about how of an amazing rapper Jhope is ????
I feel like his rap isn’t talked about much when he’s so amazing
His raps his looks everything is just ❤️😘
He's perfect
HOSEOK IS AN ALL-ROUNDER GOLDEN HYUNG INDEED ✨☀️
It didnt get talked a lot compared to other for a reason
@@qearaaa01 yeah because it people like you that go sprint thinking they know smth about rap
lmao go ask an actual rapper and then we’ll see
Got goosebumps the first time i listened to this. I can't believe their putting this in the album.. really a masterpiece
when i listened to this song i immediately cried 😢, remember their hard work to debut & now they are big stars 💜
RM's 'Hey kid what's your dream?' Mine is to become a rapstar can't you feel.' makes me feel all types of emotional idk but that particular line and the way he says it seems so sincere.
That line is like from 'no more dream'
@@zachs.294 ya
In the end of 2018?? Today was the day when Jin said that they almost disbanded and today I saw BTS win a big award and BTS & ARMY cried, today was the day when we are proud of each other because we have each other.... Today was the day when BTS SAID THANK YOU TO ARMY AND ARMY SAID THANK YOU BTS 💜 *I* *PURPLE* *YOU* 💜
😭😭😭
L9
I purple you too 😫
its 2019 for me
Anime Lover he commented on 2018 idiot
Who came here after the revelation of Tracklist CD 1 for their Anthology Album? 😭❤️ The goosebumps I feel is so unreal 😭
whos here after proof tracklist drop? 😭
Me excited the current improved vocal line resing this
No group is
-as passionate
-as humble
-as hardworking
-as determined
-as heartwarming
-has as meaningful lyrics
As BTS
Edit: it's been 9 months (???) since I first posted this comment and I'm seeing a lot of hateful replies.
1. I'm a multi stan so please don't tell me I'm being biased.
2. I'm not meaning any hate! It's just that BTS is a group that really stands out for me and means a lot to me since I'm quite old to kpop.
3. I said 'no group', but I didn't liTerAlly mean it. It's an exaggeration?? Again, just because I think this, doesn't mean others will too.
4. Don't attack me please, I'm not trying to be toxic to anyone or group.
Anyways, please continue to support our boys 😔 💜
Described J Cole also...
@@marcussanchez2821 ...
They aren't the only one🙄
@@lenseofleni stfu
@@lenseofleni to your ans is maybe u are a multistan or a hater if your a hater not my problem at least u know bts but they don't know u, u give them attention that's how famous they reach cause u keep calling their name out of your ignorant mouth 🙄🙄😒😒😒 thank God my boyz teach us not to listen to haters but to ignore them
2020 and I’m here still watching this. There’s really something about this song that brings out the emotions and tears. You can see their passion in the lyrics as well as their hardships and insecurities. Now reflecting on how big they’ve come, anyone can see that they came from humble beginnings what with being a small company at the time. They aren’t immune to feeling tired, despair about the future but you can see them pushing on for their dreams. Now that they’ve made it, you can reflect on the stark contrast of their lyrics to Black Swan and I think it’s beautiful how you can see their growth, their shifting perspectives, THEIR STORY through their songs. Respect to Bangtan, hard-earned respect. It’s a whole rollercoaster this song.
luv u dear, i just luv when ppl really understand what BTS going through ....
same. There really is something that gets you emotional in this song. its their passion and how they arent afraid of confronting their problems becaus ethey know that we will never leave them
well said. this song makes my heart ache.
I can not believe that we are going to have a 2022 version of this song 😍
I've never watched this performance coz I know it would emotionally hurt me somehow. The way they were singing so intimately in that circle, it's like assuring each other that they would be doing music no matter what by supporting each other and after at the last they turned towards Armys coz Armys are their support system. It makes more sad coz I can literally hear their emotions n the way they were maybe feeling overwhelmed n heartbreak through their voices and even with their expression. Now look how far they have come and I'm so proud of them. I literally teared up watching this while my heartached. So happy they included this beautiful song in their anthology album.
You can see how Suga's rap was deep on the members. When he rapped you could see how much it impacted on the others. 💜💜
Who else cried after watching this?
Stardust foufa meeee
Cried while watching it
Stardust foufa who wouldn't cry. I cried soo much I want to buy this song I love them soo much if they die I will be soo sad I would be really sad that I wouldnt know what to do anymore.
yes : I cry right now (I swear )
Stardust foufa me 😭😭
Will be hearing this again in their album and I'm already getting emotional
Heree we are PROOF
A lot of people ask me, why are you obsess with them?
My answer? Because they are not just dancing or singing for popularity they're singing about their life, their story!❤ we will always love you Bangtan!💕
Dmzea Malnegro and youth
so true
this song really makes me cry😭😣 ..... our boys really doing their best to make us (ARMY) and their family proud.....this is one of the most beautiful song ive ever heard😇😍
its so touching
same
This makes me cry!!😭😭
make sure y'all check out the original song too!!!
BTS and ARMYs are family with so much love😭😭😘
The fact that we are able to see this live again😭😭😭
Old but gold💪
j-hope transition from singing to rapping really amazed me his a multi talented idol... not to mentioned his a good dancer though... how can i not love him 😍😍😍
ajinee3184
*J-HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPE!!!*
AND THEN HE CHANGES BACK TO SINGING FROM RAPPING MY BIASSSSSSKSJDKDBKDBD
golden hyung!
I always get emotional when I hear this.
Meeee tooooo
same.
Lily Pletcher Meeeee to
Saame
me too
Now this song is add in there new upcoming album Proof and it's going to make everyone of us cry once again 😭 💜
Listening to this after hearing bts’s military announcement hits different seeing how far they’ve come and how far they are going to go is amazing we purple you bts 💜
Me:
Listen to old Bts songs makes me nostalgic af
Also me:
*Listens to it everyday*
They had come so far. 😭😭
they performed this tonight at the wings tour final 😭
ladz their expressions made me cry😭😭
And they cried a lot, while made us cry too
WAIT WHAT.
ladz when they turn around suga is soon to cry but he bite his lip to prevent crying
iMrAwesomeYT yeah I heard j cole’s born sinner! love his music :)
Yoongi my bias singing about his travels to get where he is today.