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The energy required to pull the object down will be identical to the energy gain when it floats back up (minus some lost to friction in the system) so the balls will just remain neutral. However, you could try and extract energy from an excited system... i.e. waves. Coil wire around a plastic tube.. find magnets that fit that tube... glue foam of the same diameter to the magnets and put them in the tube. Place the device in an area with waves... the waves will force the magnets to rise and fall inside the tube. A Moving magnetic field will generate electricity when passing the coil of wire. It's not "Free" energy, you're extracting it from the waves energy (which comes from the sun and the moons tidal forces) but its free to you at least.
@@floki-man right, but the air pump is going to have to expend energy to pull air under water. After you do the math, I bet the energy required will be exactly equal to what you gain from your buoyancy generator (minus loses due to friction/heat/etc...) the laws of thermodynamics makes the outcome very predictable. There is no such thing as free energy, or perpetual motion.
A 2w air pump would set the system free. Even if it was a circle and not triangular. At maximum air pressure and output, 2W is equal to 1.5 pounds force/second. So if you used water bottles that have 1 pound force/second per bottle… 3 bottles may more than power the pump. The air can reduce density to any depth this would be tested at. What else you got?
@@floki-man You're overcomplicating a very uncomplicated problem. If it were possible to generate "free energy" in the way that you're thinking, it would have already happened somewhere in the universe "by accident" and the universe would have died in a runaway heat death long long ago. The fact that the universe is still here tells you that there must be a balance (or at least, if there is an in-balance, its extremely tiny) People have been trying to find "free energy" since the beginning of time and to be fair, some have found some very novel edge effects worth study. But you can't beat the laws of thermodynamics. They are self evident. That's not to say you can't find a way to extract energy from an existing system, the waves for example... but you'll never find a way to create energy from nothing. You're effectively looking for magic.
hey man, im an electrical engineer an i design generators driven by gravity. It's the closest to "Free Energy" right after Solar Panels that exists. it works by resetting a weight, so its basically using stored energy, but what your are doing makes no sense. U said yourself that pushing it down requires that same way that it generates going up no matter how deep it always uses the same force and your desing is a circle with equally placed balls on it, there cant be any effect. u would need to dissplace them on one side but it would come to stop very quick cause u dont have mucht dept and way to go up. i've seen working generator projects taking advantage of boyancy but u cant create a static motion out of it. also your Math is insufficient.
That’s cool. I’m a petroleum engineer. I used to drill oil wells. I was briefly interested in gravity generators myself. But fluids is my specialty really. A triangle has a hypotenuse, longer than the other sides. That side submerged can hold more items than any other side, and so can hold more energy than any other side. My design is improving quickly. I’m not a stranger to being hard to understand, especially for engineers. They often use the limitations they learned in college to be lazy, and not seek/try to understand things that challenge those limitations. They’d rather copy others and be accountants. My math is sufficient to help those without our level of education get an idea of what’s happening mathematically. Appreciate your support. Don’t forget to check out, comment, and like more of my videos. Have a great weekend.
@@floki-man just because its a triangle doesnt change the fact that there will only always be two sides of the System: the submerging side and the side going up. Therefore forces are always zero. But im always open to see what u come up with.
@@floki-man How do you find the best height difference between the two wheels and also how much it should be submerged? Do you have formulas or is it by trial and error ? Hope we can see it soon on your channel
Apologies, didn’t see this comment until now. The height difference, obviously the steeper the better. I don’t think it can be calculated better than tested. The tension on the loop is a factor along with angle. The flatter the angle, the more the loop bends up in the submerged section. The steeper, the more in line with the force acting on the objects. You can calculate how much the angle affects the force on each object, using force vector (direction) calculations. Obviously straight up will be maximum force, if you deviate from that by 30 degrees, it may reduce force by a small percentage. I think trial and error will be best. I hope to get it in a pond/lake/pool sometime. So I can just try all angles by hand.
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The design continues: Floki-man Perpetual Buoyancy Power Loop Revolutionary (it revolves!) Invention Design, Continued
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The energy required to pull the object down will be identical to the energy gain when it floats back up (minus some lost to friction in the system) so the balls will just remain neutral. However, you could try and extract energy from an excited system... i.e. waves. Coil wire around a plastic tube.. find magnets that fit that tube... glue foam of the same diameter to the magnets and put them in the tube. Place the device in an area with waves... the waves will force the magnets to rise and fall inside the tube. A Moving magnetic field will generate electricity when passing the coil of wire. It's not "Free" energy, you're extracting it from the waves energy (which comes from the sun and the moons tidal forces) but its free to you at least.
If you can have more objects on one side than the other you’d have more force pulling to one side.
Also, a small aquarium air pump could reduce the density of the fluid on one side of the loop. Reducing buoyant force on one side.
@@floki-man right, but the air pump is going to have to expend energy to pull air under water. After you do the math, I bet the energy required will be exactly equal to what you gain from your buoyancy generator (minus loses due to friction/heat/etc...) the laws of thermodynamics makes the outcome very predictable. There is no such thing as free energy, or perpetual motion.
A 2w air pump would set the system free. Even if it was a circle and not triangular. At maximum air pressure and output, 2W is equal to 1.5 pounds force/second. So if you used water bottles that have 1 pound force/second per bottle… 3 bottles may more than power the pump. The air can reduce density to any depth this would be tested at.
What else you got?
@@floki-man You're overcomplicating a very uncomplicated problem. If it were possible to generate "free energy" in the way that you're thinking, it would have already happened somewhere in the universe "by accident" and the universe would have died in a runaway heat death long long ago. The fact that the universe is still here tells you that there must be a balance (or at least, if there is an in-balance, its extremely tiny) People have been trying to find "free energy" since the beginning of time and to be fair, some have found some very novel edge effects worth study. But you can't beat the laws of thermodynamics. They are self evident. That's not to say you can't find a way to extract energy from an existing system, the waves for example... but you'll never find a way to create energy from nothing. You're effectively looking for magic.
no perpetual, no free energy.
Not with that attitude
0:51 are you an engineer ?
Yes, my degree is in engineering.
hey man, im an electrical engineer an i design generators driven by gravity. It's the closest to "Free Energy" right after Solar Panels that exists. it works by resetting a weight, so its basically using stored energy, but what your are doing makes no sense. U said yourself that pushing it down requires that same way that it generates going up no matter how deep it always uses the same force and your desing is a circle with equally placed balls on it, there cant be any effect. u would need to dissplace them on one side but it would come to stop very quick cause u dont have mucht dept and way to go up. i've seen working generator projects taking advantage of boyancy but u cant create a static motion out of it. also your Math is insufficient.
That’s cool. I’m a petroleum engineer. I used to drill oil wells. I was briefly interested in gravity generators myself. But fluids is my specialty really.
A triangle has a hypotenuse, longer than the other sides. That side submerged can hold more items than any other side, and so can hold more energy than any other side.
My design is improving quickly. I’m not a stranger to being hard to understand, especially for engineers. They often use the limitations they learned in college to be lazy, and not seek/try to understand things that challenge those limitations. They’d rather copy others and be accountants.
My math is sufficient to help those without our level of education get an idea of what’s happening mathematically.
Appreciate your support. Don’t forget to check out, comment, and like more of my videos.
Have a great weekend.
@@floki-man just because its a triangle doesnt change the fact that there will only always be two sides of the System: the submerging side and the side going up. Therefore forces are always zero. But im always open to see what u come up with.
Love it!
I saw it work a bit tonight. A small tweak should do the trick. Very fun to see it just turn on its own, even if only a few seconds.
@@floki-man i believe in you, friend!
@@floki-man How do you find the best height difference between the two wheels and also how much it should be submerged?
Do you have formulas or is it by trial and error ?
Hope we can see it soon on your channel
Apologies, didn’t see this comment until now. The height difference, obviously the steeper the better. I don’t think it can be calculated better than tested. The tension on the loop is a factor along with angle. The flatter the angle, the more the loop bends up in the submerged section. The steeper, the more in line with the force acting on the objects.
You can calculate how much the angle affects the force on each object, using force vector (direction) calculations. Obviously straight up will be maximum force, if you deviate from that by 30 degrees, it may reduce force by a small percentage.
I think trial and error will be best. I hope to get it in a pond/lake/pool sometime. So I can just try all angles by hand.