@@vp_wrld To be honest I just pulled the prices of the unopened and sealed games, thankfully the used market isn't as bad. But it's still really bad for kids and others that want to experience those games
The games your seeing online are most likely fakes or counterfeits, this is because, due to how popular of a band pokemon is, scammers decided to make counterfeits games that were nearly identical to the originals, this is why you can find a copy of heart gold or soul silver for $30-50
@@weirdtuberjournalism9757 I think most the people here are Pokémon fans that educated them selves about real and reproduction carts to know the difference. At least I could say for myself , my big complete in box of heart gold is authentic pretty easy to tell for heart gold and soul silver and up since there carts are black and get a red tint with light going through
I seriously doubt that will affect the price that much, only thing that would make them drop would be nintendo re releasing the games on their new console
They sell for that price because people are willing to pay it. If everyone stopped buying them people would fire sell them because they’re not collectors and would rather get some investment back.
I agree, but it's impossible to get everyone to unanimously agree to stop buying X product or Y product to deescalate it's price. Thank you for taking the time to watch!
The only thing I think makes sense is that old physical copies “go extinct” with each year as copies break, get lost, or get collected. It’s crazy that some collectors got like 4 of the same game though then still scalp their 4th copy
@@Allan-rp8rz that's a thing? Well no I dont - I played all the classic pokemon games pre-switch on my retroid pocket 3+ and all current switch games I just buy for my switch OLED
@@Allan-rp8rzwho cares,it seems lately nintendo cuts pokedex just to limit old pokemons aka they give you a hint that they dont like the old system of trading across ten generations...also some "emulators" run better than my crap 3ds xl...breeding my ass off in x rushing every perfect shiny with all the ribbons until 2025 its not doable for me and its not the pokemon i know,its clear nintendo changed politics and they do what every greedy company does.
The eBay listing that are low are fakes today, legit loose copies trend the 40-90 dollars on ebay. However even on the low end of $40 you still roll the die ): www.pricecharting.com/game/nintendo-ds/pokemon-platinum
bro gotta be new to game collecting cause majority of it was sealed and sealed stuff will always have a different and higher market. Some games are still high priced opened like emerald but these things till arent the same. CIB and SEALED will always have high value jsut the way its been for years with anything not just pokemon.
Exactly bro, I literally copped a bunch of good condition complete in box pokemon games for good prices right now, you just gotta be patient and look , as I put in the comment above I got a big box heart gold for my collection in beautiful condition for $150
LMAOOO this is such BS. there is literally no correlation between the the prices of the games and the TCG. legit DS era cartridges have been expensive since 2016. the 3ds era games simply hadnt been out long enough to be "valuable". too much supply. fast forward to now and 3ds games are starting become more rare and hold a higher market price. You ca still find DS era games for roughly the same prices as they were 8 years ago. It all simply comes down to accessibility. Wanna play pokemon Red? you dont need a gameboy and red cart, you could buy it on virtual console. the same cannot be said for ANY of the DS era games. They are expensive because you HAVE to play them physically if you want a legit copy of the game
Thanks for the comment, I really appreciate your input(please don't take this in a rude way, I really mean it). However if we look at the Pokemon Platinum you can see that it was steady and low from 2010 to 2018 (www.pricecharting.com/game/nintendo-ds/pokemon-platinum (I used loose to keep the prices low, but even the other specs follow it's trend)). The prices did not start hiking until 2019. From there it peaked at April 2021, and fell off. However the fall off still left it in a spot higher than it was prior to May 2020.
Yea. I haven't been collecting like I used to, but the DS Pokemon games held a price of around $50-60 if it was complete generally like 10 or so years ago. That held true for a majority of Pokemon games, XD included. The only standouts to this were Crystal and Emerald which would usually go for higher. I also think it's dismissive to say that the TCG has nothing to do when it when the TCG is basically advertising for the games. I don't think it's a stretch to say that the TCG drives interest in Pokemon which drives interest in the games which drives demand for them.
Ive been collecting the old games for years now, and have at least 1 game in every generation, These prices are INSANE but its been pretty high for a long time, I payed 95$ for a Black 2 game and that was a "steal" at the time you couldnt find B2/W2 for less than 140 basically anywhere. This is on another level though, Makes me sad because I love playing the old games sometimes.
Two other factors are possible rare or shiny Pokémon on a save file and how much play time it had. I had this experience after buying a Pokémon White 1 cartridge for about $63
I’ve been buying loose and then building everything together myself for much cheaper. I got Pokemon Diamond loose for $40 and then found a case and manual for $20
For real, I looked into buying a copy of Platinum because I wanted to replay all my old games starting with my first game, and i didn't want to deal with all the weird unoptimized stuff from Diamond (my actual game). But Platinum is going for at LEAST $90 bucks, and usually about $120. Yeah, no. I can't afford that, and even if i could, I'd rather support indie devs or even small studios with that kind of money. Turns out modding your 3DS is super easy, barely an inconvenience. I highly recommend it. I now have easy backups of my Pokémon diamond cart as well!
And this is why I did all my Pokémon shopping several years before the massive price hike. 😅just about have the entire DS/3DS library of mainline Pokémon titles. And an R4 cart for extra save files... 😅😅😅
Yeah same, just before the hype the games had cheap proces ^^ I even bought second copys of games, cause I wanted to keep my old safefiles on my original cartridges, but replay them xD I have HG, Platinum and PMD Explorers of Sky two times x'D And please don't ask why, but I have GBA Ruby 3 times x'D (one I bought to play it, then there was a great deal on Ebay with Ruby, Sapphire and a Kyogre GBA all for just 50€ and a friend of mine didn't want her Ruby anymore and sold it to me, she had a Shiny Zubat on her safefile which was also real nice of her to hive it to me xD) The only mainline games I don't have are Silver and Crystal ^^" But I have both of them on my 3DS Virtual Console (and the cool OVP you got with the download codes xD)
the only reasoning i see behind nintendo not releasing their older games on the switch is maybe a japan thing? i know older games can still be obtained there for relatively normal prices. otherwise i seriously don't see why they wouldn't release the games again. 90% of the fan base would probably even buy the games again even if they already had them. they're just missing out on that cash fr
@@mooganify depends on the country. Just last year I got an emerald copy for 20 euros. In 2021 I was so lucky to get a sapphire copy, box, game, manual for only 40 euros. You can work around it, at least. The only expensive ones are complete boxed Gameboy games and platinum. A bit bw 2, but you can still find them for reasonable prices. Definitely nothing to do with the prices in the video
@@HazeyInsanity I've been collecting for 10 years, I know how to tell legit from fake copies (I also opened them btw). Keep your envy and rudeness to yourself, you'll learn if you don't loose time on that and spend it on keeping an eye online and in stores you'll find deals
Prices at this point just make no sense to me. You can’t tell me that this many people want to revisit these old pokemon games all at the same time. There are at least 25 million copies combined of DPPT and 23 million copies combined of RSE. Even if you assume a few million copies were lost because of lack of care or misplacement, that’s still plenty of copies for what is likely a handful of nostalgic adults. This market inflation is honestly just self created, by resellers and buyers alike.
Most of the prices are sealed, but even the opened ones are unfortunately expensive. I remember accidentally buying a bootleg thinking it was a steal ):
If you want authentic copies, I recommend going for Japanese version. They are signs of angrily cheaper, however, gens 5 and up would require a japenese or modded DS to play, and all this ignore that the game would not be in english
Fakes usual have off details about them. Like slightly off fonts and slightly wrong icons. They're not too hard to spot when you view them side by side with a legit copy.
Or purchase Japanese imports even if you don't understand Japanese. I played Gen 3 - 5 in Japanese, beat the game. Not to mention that Japanese imports are sold at a reasonable low price when compared to English prices
@@4EverBanishment My childhood copy of Pokemon Rangers is in Japanese and I miraculously beat it when I was a kid without understanding any part of it🤣
I don’t know if these prices are from a while ago, but I literally bought a big box Pokémon heart gold in really good condition for $150 lol
Yeah I feel like they are. I just saw pokemon games on sale today that were nowhere even close to these prices
@@vp_wrld To be honest I just pulled the prices of the unopened and sealed games, thankfully the used market isn't as bad. But it's still really bad for kids and others that want to experience those games
why not just emulate tho
The games your seeing online are most likely fakes or counterfeits, this is because, due to how popular of a band pokemon is, scammers decided to make counterfeits games that were nearly identical to the originals, this is why you can find a copy of heart gold or soul silver for $30-50
@@weirdtuberjournalism9757 I think most the people here are Pokémon fans that educated them selves about real and reproduction carts to know the difference. At least I could say for myself , my big complete in box of heart gold is authentic pretty easy to tell for heart gold and soul silver and up since there carts are black and get a red tint with light going through
Once the bank goes down the value of those games drop dramatically
I seriously doubt that will affect the price that much, only thing that would make them drop would be nintendo re releasing the games on their new console
They sell for that price because people are willing to pay it. If everyone stopped buying them people would fire sell them because they’re not collectors and would rather get some investment back.
I agree, but it's impossible to get everyone to unanimously agree to stop buying X product or Y product to deescalate it's price. Thank you for taking the time to watch!
The only thing I think makes sense is that old physical copies “go extinct” with each year as copies break, get lost, or get collected. It’s crazy that some collectors got like 4 of the same game though then still scalp their 4th copy
For real, my Platinum cartridge got lost so that's +1 to the extinction pile smh :/
Me with emulators, "Pokemon Game Prices? What's that"
Do you port your pokemon to your newer Switch games?
@@Allan-rp8rz that's a thing? Well no I dont - I played all the classic pokemon games pre-switch on my retroid pocket 3+ and all current switch games I just buy for my switch OLED
How does that work on an emulator?@@Allan-rp8rz
@@Allan-rp8rzwho cares,it seems lately nintendo cuts pokedex just to limit old pokemons aka they give you a hint that they dont like the old system of trading across ten generations...also some "emulators" run better than my crap 3ds xl...breeding my ass off in x rushing every perfect shiny with all the ribbons until 2025 its not doable for me and its not the pokemon i know,its clear nintendo changed politics and they do what every greedy company does.
Filter by sold most people aren't paying that price
The eBay listing that are low are fakes today, legit loose copies trend the 40-90 dollars on ebay. However even on the low end of $40 you still roll the die ): www.pricecharting.com/game/nintendo-ds/pokemon-platinum
bro gotta be new to game collecting cause majority of it was sealed and sealed stuff will always have a different and higher market. Some games are still high priced opened like emerald but these things till arent the same. CIB and SEALED will always have high value jsut the way its been for years with anything not just pokemon.
Exactly bro, I literally copped a bunch of good condition complete in box pokemon games for good prices right now, you just gotta be patient and look , as I put in the comment above I got a big box heart gold for my collection in beautiful condition for $150
LMAOOO this is such BS. there is literally no correlation between the the prices of the games and the TCG. legit DS era cartridges have been expensive since 2016. the 3ds era games simply hadnt been out long enough to be "valuable". too much supply. fast forward to now and 3ds games are starting become more rare and hold a higher market price. You ca still find DS era games for roughly the same prices as they were 8 years ago. It all simply comes down to accessibility. Wanna play pokemon Red? you dont need a gameboy and red cart, you could buy it on virtual console. the same cannot be said for ANY of the DS era games. They are expensive because you HAVE to play them physically if you want a legit copy of the game
Thanks for the comment, I really appreciate your input(please don't take this in a rude way, I really mean it). However if we look at the Pokemon Platinum you can see that it was steady and low from 2010 to 2018 (www.pricecharting.com/game/nintendo-ds/pokemon-platinum (I used loose to keep the prices low, but even the other specs follow it's trend)). The prices did not start hiking until 2019. From there it peaked at April 2021, and fell off. However the fall off still left it in a spot higher than it was prior to May 2020.
Yea. I haven't been collecting like I used to, but the DS Pokemon games held a price of around $50-60 if it was complete generally like 10 or so years ago. That held true for a majority of Pokemon games, XD included. The only standouts to this were Crystal and Emerald which would usually go for higher. I also think it's dismissive to say that the TCG has nothing to do when it when the TCG is basically advertising for the games. I don't think it's a stretch to say that the TCG drives interest in Pokemon which drives interest in the games which drives demand for them.
Also the fact that most of these games need actual hardware to communicate with each other makes the demand go up even more
I believe you can play on emulator and trade online, but you definitely can't play games like Pokémon Ranger lol
Luckily ROMs exist and very easy to use
Agreed, I just hope the kids that cannot afford cartridges have a computer than can handle ROMS(also without getting viruses)
Ive been collecting the old games for years now, and have at least 1 game in every generation, These prices are INSANE but its been pretty high for a long time, I payed 95$ for a Black 2 game and that was a "steal" at the time you couldnt find B2/W2 for less than 140 basically anywhere. This is on another level though, Makes me sad because I love playing the old games sometimes.
Most of the prices I included were sealed, but even the used games are Ludacris all things considered
Two other factors are possible rare or shiny Pokémon on a save file and how much play time it had. I had this experience after buying a Pokémon White 1 cartridge for about $63
That's a really good point, but to be honest I would rather buy an action replay than buy an old save worth a lot of money😭
Best ending on a video i have ever, ever seen. ❤
I’ve been buying loose and then building everything together myself for much cheaper. I got Pokemon Diamond loose for $40 and then found a case and manual for $20
ooohhhh $40 is a not a bad find, congratulations!
@@Allan-rp8rz thanks!
Ice done that tooo lol heartgold for 90 and box for 10
i pirated when i was younger but now that im older and have the money i buy the games i want to own as i want to preserve the original physical media.
For real, I looked into buying a copy of Platinum because I wanted to replay all my old games starting with my first game, and i didn't want to deal with all the weird unoptimized stuff from Diamond (my actual game). But Platinum is going for at LEAST $90 bucks, and usually about $120. Yeah, no. I can't afford that, and even if i could, I'd rather support indie devs or even small studios with that kind of money.
Turns out modding your 3DS is super easy, barely an inconvenience. I highly recommend it. I now have easy backups of my Pokémon diamond cart as well!
JUST EMULATE THE GAMES.
@@awildmoose6541 (there is subtext)
And this is why I did all my Pokémon shopping several years before the massive price hike. 😅just about have the entire DS/3DS library of mainline Pokémon titles.
And an R4 cart for extra save files... 😅😅😅
bro self scammed when emulation on those games has been a thing for 10+ years
Yeah same, just before the hype the games had cheap proces ^^
I even bought second copys of games, cause I wanted to keep my old safefiles on my original cartridges, but replay them xD
I have HG, Platinum and PMD Explorers of Sky two times x'D
And please don't ask why, but I have GBA Ruby 3 times x'D (one I bought to play it, then there was a great deal on Ebay with Ruby, Sapphire and a Kyogre GBA all for just 50€ and a friend of mine didn't want her Ruby anymore and sold it to me, she had a Shiny Zubat on her safefile which was also real nice of her to hive it to me xD)
The only mainline games I don't have are Silver and Crystal ^^"
But I have both of them on my 3DS Virtual Console (and the cool OVP you got with the download codes xD)
@@Feurigel1806 awesome and truly spectacular hauls! The only games I have duplicates of is HG and black for trading.
thank god I bought them when they didn't cost anything
They are expensive in Europe too but emulation is 0
I think it's worse for you USA guys in Australia I see cheaper prices just because of less demand but they're still pretty high
the only reasoning i see behind nintendo not releasing their older games on the switch is maybe a japan thing? i know older games can still be obtained there for relatively normal prices. otherwise i seriously don't see why they wouldn't release the games again. 90% of the fan base would probably even buy the games again even if they already had them. they're just missing out on that cash fr
I know for a fact I would rebuy Gen 5 on switch lol, and I would certainly take it over a BDSP type of remake
glad I'm European, American prices are crazy
They’re still a pretty penny here
@@mooganify depends on the country. Just last year I got an emerald copy for 20 euros. In 2021 I was so lucky to get a sapphire copy, box, game, manual for only 40 euros. You can work around it, at least. The only expensive ones are complete boxed Gameboy games and platinum. A bit bw 2, but you can still find them for reasonable prices. Definitely nothing to do with the prices in the video
price in europe and america is zero because you can just emulate
@@GinGrayTonic Might wanna check if those copies are legit lmao
@@HazeyInsanity I've been collecting for 10 years, I know how to tell legit from fake copies (I also opened them btw). Keep your envy and rudeness to yourself, you'll learn if you don't loose time on that and spend it on keeping an eye online and in stores you'll find deals
Prices at this point just make no sense to me. You can’t tell me that this many people want to revisit these old pokemon games all at the same time. There are at least 25 million copies combined of DPPT and 23 million copies combined of RSE. Even if you assume a few million copies were lost because of lack of care or misplacement, that’s still plenty of copies for what is likely a handful of nostalgic adults. This market inflation is honestly just self created, by resellers and buyers alike.
Pretty much explained it all good work on the vid man
Thank you, and thank you for watching!
really well edited and good video bro! 👍
Thank you for watching, I really appreciate it!
Some European prices are just as insane if not more
Wow really? I'm surprised, I didn't know the European market liked Pokemon as much as the West
This is unrelated, but I was confused why the Dragonspiral Tower music you used was uncannily off
Was it off? I haven't played black/white in years so my memory is fuzzy lol
@@Allan-rp8rzYeah, it was the same soundfont, but weirdly different in places. Anyway, the video was good, I'm just nitpicking
In it case, graded and in mint condition I understand. Unopened and non-graded shouldnt be expensive.
Most of the prices are sealed, but even the opened ones are unfortunately expensive. I remember accidentally buying a bootleg thinking it was a steal ):
BiN prices are not actual market activity 😅
aint these games like best selling from their respective consoles? why are they so expensive?
Yes, Pokémon are some of the greatest selling games on the DS. I believe the highest selling it Gen 4 Pokemon, I'm not too sure though
Nobody wants to let it go for cheap and if they do it’s gone right away .
Simple sealed will always hold A hefty price tag especially mint condition, additional there’s millions of reps in the market all I see is novices 😭
And it's so hard to tell the difference between real and reps(aside from price differences)
If you want authentic copies, I recommend going for Japanese version. They are signs of angrily cheaper, however, gens 5 and up would require a japenese or modded DS to play, and all this ignore that the game would not be in english
My childhood copy of Pokemon Rangers is in Japanese, the result of that is that I have no idea what the story is even 14 years later😭😭😭
No ones going to buy those gamea with these prices... Oh wait i forgot that there are people that buys retro games from amazon...
I accidentally bought a fake Pokemon Platinum off of Amazon lol
Fakes usual have off details about them. Like slightly off fonts and slightly wrong icons. They're not too hard to spot when you view them side by side with a legit copy.
why dont people just emulate
@@dragon_nammi I actually used to have a legit copy when I was a kid then lost it :(
@@awildmoose6541Can you emulate IR feature stuff on Pokemon HGSS, BW, B2W2 tho? If you think about it?
Arr, Matey!
Arrrrrrr back to you Matey!
Can you trade up from an R4 to switch? Can you send mons to home?
Or purchase Japanese imports even if you don't understand Japanese. I played Gen 3 - 5 in Japanese, beat the game. Not to mention that Japanese imports are sold at a reasonable low price when compared to English prices
what's the point if you can't read it -_- are you even serious right now
how about NO
@@aporue5893
Its for fun and possibly for a Challenge!
@@4EverBanishment My childhood copy of Pokemon Rangers is in Japanese and I miraculously beat it when I was a kid without understanding any part of it🤣
Why would anyone "buy" a Pokémon game in 2024? emulation is your friend! XD
Mostly collections purposes, for few playing it on actual hardware is nice. But mostly people buy the games for collections
until it doesn't save and crashes.
Until you may want to try the IR stuff on Pokemon HGSS, and Gen 5
@@awildfurret There was IR on HGSS? That's neat to know! I never played HGSS, I only knew of Dream Radar having IR
speak louder...
Sorryyyy, I will next time!
Lmao keep them games - that’s why I love Modded Consoles 😂…you bypass all this stupidity
I'm too scared of messing up/bricking to jailbreak my 3DS lol
@@Allan-rp8rzSounds like skill issue, dont follow video guides