Cold molded diagonal planking our wooden boat (EP 4)
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- Опубликовано: 7 окт 2024
- It's time for us to move back to the hull, in this episode we show and describe our way of laying the diagonal planks on Tarkine. With the help of our secret weapon, the plastic nail gun.
Beeautiful. In my humble opinion, the best balance of traditional wood and modern epoxy. And the plastic nails are the bomb!
Thank you Brian! It surely will be very strong! And a great method for amateurs like us.
Hi from Townsville. I am not a boatie but love wood. This looks great, my fist view of this build so I am going to binge on previous episodes. The two of you need to pat each other on the back for a job well done. I didn’t know there were plastic nail guns, brilliant for this type of work. It seems that they are up to the task with your strip planking.
Hello there! Hopefully you enjoy the rest! The plastic nails gun is actually an American company that invented it or atleast started it. It’s a fantastic thing!
She is beautiful! I can appreciate all your hard work, you should be very proud of what you are bring to life.
Thank you Kim for the lovely comment!
like an awesome piece of Scandinavian furniture
seen the plastic nail gun used to make a tender for Acorn to Arabella in US, i love it when things get reinvented, like the common rivet, makes life much faster and economical, must be a great asset to the build
WOW THIS YACHT BUILD IS SO EXCITING. I WAS THINKING OF MAKING EXACTLY THE SAME IN BAMBOO STRIPS SO I AM WATCHING EVERYTHING VERY CLOSELY. YOU ARE DOING A TERRIFIC JOB. WATCHING AS YOU GO. WOW! SO EXCITING FOR ME! I WAS PLANNING ON USING 4 LAYERS, INSIDE OUTSIDE THE LENGTH OF THE SHIP AND THEN 2 LAYERS DIAGONAL IN THE MIDDLE. SO I AM LEARNING A LOT BY WATCHING. THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR BUILD!!!!!! WOW! SO EXCITING!!!!!!TERRIFIC !!! FANTASTIC BUILD!!!!
Wow thank you so much for your enthusiastic response! Good luck with your build and have lots of fun with it!
I know you're excited but you don't have to YELL!
The boss was watching a new employee nail up sheathing over the studs. He watched and watched, noticing the the kid hadn't refilled the nail gun in quite a while. The boss yells up, "Hey! - you got any nails in that gun?" The kid yells back, "I thought the nails came up through the air hose." (Why I never let the framers build my stair stringers)
That would actually be so handy if the gun got an automatic nail feed! We could have gone even faster that way! Jokes aside, it really is a handy machine for this purpose! Thanks for sharing a joke!
You are great together you work so beautifully in harmony with each other nice to watch, great video I‘m thankful for RUclips pushing it up into my sight.
Thank you so much, that's such a very nice thing to say!
Wooo looking amazing. The best boat builders i know bar none
Oh thank you beautiful friend! We always work faster and happier with your tunes playing!
Just looks amazing
Thanks!!
Great example of cold molding. What size are your first layer of strips. I've only carvel, strip and lapstrake planked. Looking forward to a new build that is cold molded.
Thanks. Just subscribed!
Cheers,
Bob
What an honour to have you watching our video! (We obviously closely follow you and your amazing work). Our first layer are 25mm/30mm +/-. It is surprisingly quick to cold mould, we expect less than a week to finish stbd side and that’s including machining stock and hull prep with only the two of us!
Cheers, Matt and Iefke.
Just found you folks!! Wow what fantastic work. On a par with the Tally Ho and Acorn to Arabella projects. Thanks for letting us see it.
Wow what a compliment! Thanks so much
Outstanding, great progress.
Thank you Marcus!
Amazing work. You two work so well together. A joy to watch.
Thats a Lovely feedback Jason we do enjoy working together a lot!
Well done. Cold molded my Haven 12 1/2 and I remember how it seemed like the next strip should mate up and almost never did
That's so true, every plank seems to have a different curve it needs to bend to. It's tricky but it's working!
@@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River should be nearly bullet proof too.
We hope so! The thought was that we will never regret going the extra mile to make her stronger. We can only really regret not spending the time and money on her seaworthiness and this method will hopefully give that peace of mind in rough weather conditions! Are you happy with the result on your Haven? Sounds like a really cool project!
@@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River very happy with the Haven. I did loads of video of the build. here is a clip of sailing "Enchanted" ruclips.net/video/HFtQ2KfqsJo/видео.html
Awesome!! We will go and watch them! Thank you for sharing!
I love the plastic nail gun, it sure beats the wire staples shot through a piece of cardboard so you could pull them out after each lamination. Looks like you are going really well and a beautiful fair job.
Thank you Roger! The plastic nail gun is really pulling though and we are happy we gave it a go! I think we will be thanking that decision in the future. We were also surprised and pleased how fair the laminations are curving and bending along the lines. Thank you for leaving a comment!
New subscriber, what a thing of beauty this is, looking forward to watching the progress, thanks for sharing
Great to hear! Thanks for watching. We tried to find your channel but couldn’t work out what it’s called?
@@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River thanks it’s called “Our French House Renovation” cheers
55 years ago when I was 14 I helped my brother double diagonal plank the hulls of a 35 ft trimaran very strong method we cruised Mexico!
Looking fantastic ! The glue lam hull is exactly what I would build .
Thanks Kenneth it's such a strong method! We won't have to worry about her hull strength in a bit of weather!
I had no doubt that y’all would get it in at 45•, it looks amazing. I’m sure y’all were excited about getting to this part of the build.
Keep up the good work.
Texas
Thanks! Yes it was very exciting and addictive, you just want to keep putting them on!
Diagonal cold molded boats are gorgeous especially when left clear for the wood to show thru. Here in the USA western red cedar is mostly what ya see and it is beautiful done clear. Don’t know what the wood you’re using is and if it would even look good clear coated. But that’s what paint is there for.
Wow, I’ve never seen anything like that, it’s amazing and gorgeous!
Thank you Nena! Happy you enjoyed the process and the results!
Great Team, lovely to watch
Thank you! That's so nice to say!
Looks great, love the look of the laminate.
Thank you! It sure is a new look for us too, very nice after looking at the strip planking all last year.
Liking great, and those nails will save so much work and grief later.
We are so excited about it too! No corrosion no troubles!
You kids sure work fast!!!
Fantastic!!!
Thank you Bengt!
Many thanks for publishing this… how many board ft. /m of veneer were needed to plank Tarkine?…
Any leads to veneer suppliers?
Much obliged for any info.
Ooooh a tricky one, we made our own veneer from 75mm x 35mm hardwood, we ripped them into 4 pieces. It’s on the verge of not being a veneer at 5mm but we did really search around for veneer company as money was tight! Haha
Nice video once again.
Thank you Martin!
Beautiful work
Thank you Glenn
I have always used wood flour to thicken epoxy . It is much cheaper than the west system epoxy powder and works just as good. I have tried to split a joint using wood flour and epoxy and have always broke the wood before the joint would break.
Great channel guys….😊
Thanks mate! Hopefully quality and content is improving also, we’re trying!
Great vídeo
Thank you Nicolas!
Uhh, I,d love to build a big Wharram Tiki and cold mold the hulls! I think better than mustleing sheets of ply up on the hulls and torturing the ply into place!
We really enjoyed the cold moulding process. It's relatively easy for amateurs like us. Hope you start your build and let us know when you do!
I've been working timber for 50 years.... You're doing an excellent job........ Can you estimate what the boat would have cost you guy's
Ooooh that’s a tricky one, we try not to think about it to be honest. Never actually kept a tally
I can't imagine the amount of epoxy you must need for that size of a project but nevertheless the boat is gonna be a sold haul when its done. I'm guessing you will need two layers of diagonal layers of stripe planking to have a tough enough haul?
What is the timber used for the fore-and-afts and the diagonals? Very nice work.
It's all Tasmanian Oak!
@@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River Eucalyptus regnans, or one of the other two that go by the same name (delegatensis or obliqua)? I ask because several species of Victorian eucalyptus hardwoods are called "Tassie Oak on the mainland; the naming seems more about marketing than geography! Go Tasmania!
Yes it's a funny one! It's often difficult to know what sub species we are using as the mill gets the log and its usually hard to tell at that point. Our fore and aft planning was all swamp gum - Regan's which we saw before being cut.
@@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River Thank you. We do not have these timbers here-you are fortunate. Keep going! I've subscribed.
Not sure of the reason you did that diagonal planking on top of the horizontal???...
Please inform how many hours you take to do one side of the boat,or average how many minutes by sq feet
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Thanks for the thumps up!
Greeting friends, where can I buy this plastic nail gun and the nails, thank you
A company called Braford industries in Australia
Does the layer of diagonal planks just mean that you don't have to lay as much fiberglass down on the hull?? Guessing that's the point of it. Ran sailing did a single layer of cold molded strips but used several layers of fiberglass on the outside.. how thick are the planks you have cut..
Really love the diagonal veneer. Do you know at what size boat it is recommended that you diagonal veneer over strip planking. I have only ever seen smaller boats and canoes where it has just been strip plank only.
Hi Tim! Good question, in boatbuilding there is always 300 ways to do something! This is the advice of the designer and she was designed for this method. Diagonal planking has been used for many years for different types of vessels. At work we are working in a 45ft boat from 1898 that has three layers of diagonal planking!
Hi!!! I love the way it looks!!! Now, I have a question... Why cold molded and not marine ply? Is there a great difference? (Pardon my ignorance)
Ignorance is bliss! No worries, plywood is firstly not long enough in sheets.. when water gets between plywood it goes crazy with rot. And it won’t be as strong length ways ones it’s cut into thinner pieces… but we did contemplate it at one brief point haha!
@@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River you two are doing a fantastic job job - One of my favorite boats combined with my favorite hull construction technique! I live in the Pacific Northwest where a cold-molded Bob Perry-designed yacht named the Nightrunner has dominated its' class in Victoria>Maui and local races and proved its seaworthiness by "doubling" the Horn - Beautiful, light, strong, and durable.
hi I know this comment comes late as I've just discovered your channel, .....i was wondering were you not concerned about the amount of nails you used to pin the veneer for both cost and structural integrity ( so many stress points in the woods grain)?.
Hmmm a valid point but we never saw that as a concern, with a thin veneer it so impregnated with epoxy it’s basically bullet proof, we run over all the nail holes with thickened epoxy also. Epoxy wood boat building! Ahah
Ist time viewer! Watched this video because I was impressed with your cold molding hull layup. Would very much like to follow your progress. Am I wrong in thinking your New Zelanders?
Tasmania is an Aussie Island southeast of Australia's main island\continent
Great bull vid mate. What type of wood is the veneer?
It's Tasmanian oak as well! We don't know the specific sub species we used for the veneers unfortunately, most likely a collection of the main species. The fore and aft strip planks where Tasmanian swamp gum. Thanks for watching Alexander!
Tell me more about those plastic nails
Made my raptor nails, an American company, heap of info on the internet but they basically melt slightly when they go in and work almost like glue!
When putting in the nails, why did you not have them all equidistant apart?
Our priority was making sure the veneer was nailed down everywhere it needed to be. They are roughly equal distance! Haha but they will be covered with fibreglass and only there to hold the veneer while the epoxy cures.
Why is it that you orientated the diagonal planks that way around? Can the diagonals run to the rear as they come down the boat from the gunwale to the hog? (I ask as I would have assumed that running them that way would be the intuitive way - for me at least!).
Yes we gave that some serious thought as you said we could have gone the other way and most diagonal boats have a couple of diagonal layers so it doesn’t matter as much. We based this choice on when Tarkine pounds into the sea she has a heap of strength transferred to the stem and we can also run the diagonals nicely from the stem post to top of transom.. And it looked better, which is generally the way to go.
@@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River Thanks for the reply, and good luck with the rest of the build.
Yes I'm old!!
Be careful I shot a staple through two fingers and pinned them together needed pliers for extrication
Do you all need any help?
There is plenty to do! Help is always very much appreciated!
Try not to point the gun towards your head!
I can see the budget spiraling out of control with every fastener in excess of 27 in the first meter of 1x material.
Oh yes, lucky they are plastic and we don’t have a budget! Haha
@@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River nice
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River I actually thought about using the "leave-in" plastic fastener method on the next cold molded runabout I build. It seems more efficient and less time consuming than the usual "washer/screw while the epoxy dries" method. What do you think?
Yep! Plastic fasteners are the best, they pin it all together while the glue cures and then they are easy to sand off the heads later! Good idea
I started watching this video because RUclips suggested it to me. After 4.5 minutes I still had no idea what it was about. So I quit.
Oh sad.. you didn’t have time to read the description or see our first video in the 4.5 minutes?
@@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River My comment was intended as a hint for you: it might help your channel if you pay attention to clear explanations as to what you are doing. Maybe start every video with an introduction. It should not be necessary for any viewer to go back to a description that comes with the first video in the series. Having seen the rather short description under this video, and the poor or even absent explanation of what was going on in this video, I had no reason whatsoever to expect something more elaborate with the first one. On most channels, quality of the videos improves over time, partly because the creators take some of the comments from their viewers into account.
see ya.
what is the beautiful hull inthe background lokks dragonish
She’s called Ninie, and looking for a good home!