(7:04 commercial break)- I keep expecting to hear: ”She’s got something that moves my soul And she knows, I’d love to love her But she lets me down every time Can”t make her mine, she’s no one’s lover Tonight with me, she’ll be so inviting I’ll want her all for myself..."
This is great! I remember Chuck and Susie and how this show was before Pat and Vanna took over. They sure have made it harder over the years by adding more bankrupt spaces and lose a turn spaces.
@@biruss The show is called Wheel of Fortune, not Wheel of Shopping. And every prize was taxed. Contestants could put money "on account" anytime during a shopping round, which allowed the money to carry over to the next round at the risk of being lost to Bankrupt. From at least July 15, 1975 onward, the winnings could also be placed on a gift certificate if a contestant did not have enough money left over to buy another prize; as a result, almost every contestant chose the gift certificate. It is believed that even before this change, any remaining money that the contestant who solved the final puzzle had, or all the money if a contestant didn't want to but anything at all (as was the case with contestant Charlotte), was placed on a gift certificate that would be given to the contestant at the end of the show (so they could buy their own gifts). All gifts and prizes were taxable.
Lot of the wheel’s sound has to do with the kinds of flippers they’ve used over the years. While Woolery hosted and even in Sajak’s first year or two hosting, it seemed to be the same sound as we hear in this episode. Sometime in 1983 and over the course of Sajak’s run, the wheel/flipper sound has varied
Chuck had the more upbeat and jovial personality than Pat Sajak, and it's a shame Merv couldn't have given into his demands. Not to mention, it's a shame the current show couldn't have at least kept in the funkier music that was used.
Merv composed his own music for the show to bring in more money for him. Once Sony took over, they didn't want to pay Merv's estate, so now they have their own music.
Pat is just a different personality type, I'm sure he's a nice enough guy et al. He's just more of a jokester/smart-ass and Merv like that kind of humor. But if what Chuck said is true that other hosts were making $500K a year, considering how well wheel was doing, his demands were actually very reasonable.
why would they use 70s music in the 1980s? It would make the show feel outdated, and for those who say "Well what about the Price is right using music they used in the 70s up until the old producers left", Price is Right by the 80s was using that music as the character of the show was aimed at being a flashback to the 70s.
At about 7:03 was the reason for the different "outro" music was because Merv Griffen didnt want to pay Alan Thicke (who created the original theme used at the top & bottom of this episode) any more loyalty money?
That's probably when he used the "changing keys" theme, which since recently got resurrected (IMO they didn't have to resurrect that). Yes, I did notice new prize cues. I'm surprised Merv didn't use Jeopardy's theme for a part of that show (a la Family Feud's or Match Game HS hour on TPiR). Merv appeared to be cheap (both with his money & his ego). That's why Chuck walked.
@@ryanstrnad1852 He wasn't the only one who did that. As you mentioned Mark Goodson did it, Jack Barry and Dan Enright did it with how Joker's Wild and Tic Tac Dough both shared the same cues in everything but the theme and win cues, Bob Stewart was especially infamous for reusing themes for his game shows, I don't think there was a single game show of his that did not have a reused theme.
True, first, I do want to say something about Merv; learning about how he wouldn't let NBC "pay for the difference" when Woolery wanted about the same salary that he quoted Richard Dawson of making over at "the Feud" and how Merv fought NBC to name this show "Wheel of Fortune" in the first place (NBC wanted it called "Shoppers Buzarre"), it left a bad taste in my mouth about Mr. Griffin considering how he would make some cutthroat decisions and wouldn't give in (I also heard recently that his "right hand man" John Tobyason was put in charge of the Wink Martindale created show "Headline Chasers" that Merv picked up. Martindale alluded to on a rather recent interview that there was some headbutting going on there between him & Merv's above said Tobyason), that's why I look at Merv Griffin through a negative light. Now, on the common themes, Bob Stewart used the same theme for the '75 "Blankety Blanks" & the '86 "Celebrity Double Talk". I've heard the USA Network version of Jackpot theme used for at least one of his pilots. Stewart was another one who had a falling out with another producer, remember, he worked for Goodson & Todman and he created Password himself, then left & started his own production company. He had said Mark Goodson would avoid talking with him (including when they were at the same in person events) ever since. I like Stewart, I admired Goodson but I'm sure Griffin hurt alot of people's feelings during his management career. Did play some favorites though, Vanna White for one. Got Ryan Seacrest's career off to a good start too, with a kids game show "Click" way back when.
The Bonus Round arrived during Chuck's last week. At the time, and sometime before the syndicated edition appeared, it was conducted from the contestants' podium.
I could be wrong, but just by sheer coincidence I think the bonus puzzle debuted on Pat's first show. They did have a bonus puzzle when they tried a one hour format, but that didn't last long....
They experimented with a bonus round in 1978. There was a token called "star bonus" where if you picked it up and did not win the game outright, you could choose one of 4 difficulties and attempt to solve 1 puzzle to win the game. 4 consonants and 1 vowel were chosen and the player had 15 seconds to solve.
Pat is just very quirky, In my opinion anyway. I will say I do like Chuck's personality, He's like a dork but in a charming way. When he does make a mistake he's always the first one to say "way to blow it Chuck...."
I don’t like Woolery’s politics, but he had humor, voice, personality, and knew the board really well. See how fast he replies to the contestants letter choices. Sajak, OTOH, never had any personality or charisma at all, yet struck it rich hosting a game show while being completely bland, boring, and talentless. Maybe he was a good weatherman?
The bumper music being "Temptation Eyes" was a nice subtle touch
This is not just an old episode of Wheel of Fortune, this is a glimpse into another cultural reality
Even the wheel sounds good/better. Must be made NOT OF plastic and is metal!
Keep those 1970s Wheel episodes coming!
Chuck and Susan were amazing.
RIP Charlie.
The play the 'puzzle reveal' music twice. Adds a magical feel to it.
Do you mean Charlie O’Donnell?
@@stewartvolk5156 Exactly.
(7:04 commercial break)-
I keep expecting to hear:
”She’s got something that moves my soul
And she knows, I’d love to love her
But she lets me down every time
Can”t make her mine, she’s no one’s lover
Tonight with me, she’ll be so inviting
I’ll want her all for myself..."
This is great! I remember Chuck and Susie and how this show was before Pat and Vanna took over. They sure have made it harder over the years by adding more bankrupt spaces and lose a turn spaces.
Plus putting all that shit on the wheel: trips, mystery, wild card, million$, express,
@@yaywhewclips242 No shopping...
And tightening the hell out of the Wheel
@@wns808That one was my pet peeve for a long time.
@@biruss The show is called Wheel of Fortune, not Wheel of Shopping. And every prize was taxed.
Contestants could put money "on account" anytime during a shopping round, which allowed the money to carry over to the next round at the risk of being lost to Bankrupt. From at least July 15, 1975 onward, the winnings could also be placed on a gift certificate if a contestant did not have enough money left over to buy another prize; as a result, almost every contestant chose the gift certificate. It is believed that even before this change, any remaining money that the contestant who solved the final puzzle had, or all the money if a contestant didn't want to but anything at all (as was the case with contestant Charlotte), was placed on a gift certificate that would be given to the contestant at the end of the show (so they could buy their own gifts). All gifts and prizes were taxable.
Love classic Wheel of Fortune classics
Wish they had a bonus round back then.
"Temptation Eyes" by The Grass Roots was the bumper music theme for this episode.
Thank you for your service Allan
Love both Chuck and Pat great men.
Pat will be missed after the nighttime’s 41st season, he made an announcement he’s going to retire after season 41
And maybe Ryan will be just as great.
Wheel of Fortune hasn’t had returning champions for some time. I’m not bothered by it.
Before computer monitors it must have bee a pain in the ass to have to manually set up each puzzle
Some of the music before commercial breaks sounds like a song from the 60s but I can't think of it. I'll rely on Mr. Internet to fill in the blank...
"Temptation Eyes" by The Grass Roots. 👍👍
Looks weird without Pat and Vanna
That is one rickety wheel!
Lot of the wheel’s sound has to do with the kinds of flippers they’ve used over the years. While Woolery hosted and even in Sajak’s first year or two hosting, it seemed to be the same sound as we hear in this episode. Sometime in 1983 and over the course of Sajak’s run, the wheel/flipper sound has varied
14:50 D as in doc duck dog 😂
Also, the Bankrupt whistle sounded on Lose a Turn in the Final Spin?!
Yeah that’s so weird
I think they were just trolling Chuck 😆
I wish they would put the show back like this
“Can I have an “S” as in Susan?”
“No!”
LOVE IT! POST SOME MORE. 😀
That wheel didn't like those two ladies. Very unlucky for Mina and Susan.
No the wheel never had feelings, those two ladies kept spinning the wheel really hard and just spinning it random speeds.
@@MorganNye I was just saying that. I don't really mean it.
Brent Rogers good
@@brentrogers4774 17:55 the bankrupt sound effect on the lose a turn?!
@@MorganNye the sound effects person timed it wrong.
Chuck was the better host. Such a shame most of his work on WOF no longer exists unless it’s in some mysterious vault in NBC’s archives.
That commerical break cue sounds mighty kick ass. Does anyone have any info on it/a clean version to listen?
The song was called "Temptation Eyes" by The Grass Roots.
Chuck had the more upbeat and jovial personality than Pat Sajak, and it's a shame Merv couldn't have given into his demands. Not to mention, it's a shame the current show couldn't have at least kept in the funkier music that was used.
You can blame SONY for not bringing back the 70's music, they currently own the Wheel and the show
Merv composed his own music for the show to bring in more money for him. Once Sony took over, they didn't want to pay Merv's estate, so now they have their own music.
Pat is just a different personality type, I'm sure he's a nice enough guy et al. He's just more of a jokester/smart-ass and Merv like that kind of humor. But if what Chuck said is true that other hosts were making $500K a year, considering how well wheel was doing, his demands were actually very reasonable.
It’ll be interesting to see how Ryan Seacrest fits into Wheel when Pat Sajak retires at the end of Season 41 of syndicated Wheel
why would they use 70s music in the 1980s? It would make the show feel outdated, and for those who say "Well what about the Price is right using music they used in the 70s up until the old producers left", Price is Right by the 80s was using that music as the character of the show was aimed at being a flashback to the 70s.
Chuck Woolrey was better than Pat Sajak.
Agreed, but mercy Sajak's now into his 40th year hosting Wheel....unreal!
Agreed
@@willmack5909 and Sajak will retire after the 41st nighttime season
I would agree. Understandable at how Sajak's 1990's talk show failed. He has little to no personality.
But Susan often wouldn't wear a needed bra!!!
A little eager there on the category reveal sound effect at 1:51
tbh i kinda love how trollish tha Bankrupt whistle was back then, they should return tha sound but just use it on Lose a Turn 🤣
In less than a year he'd be divorced from Jo Ann.
1:38
At about 7:03 was the reason for the different "outro" music was because Merv Griffen didnt want to pay Alan Thicke (who created the original theme used at the top & bottom of this episode) any more loyalty money?
Pretty much.
And eventually he had to compose the show's theme himself, along with many prize cues.
That's probably when he used the "changing keys" theme, which since recently got resurrected (IMO they didn't have to resurrect that). Yes, I did notice new prize cues. I'm surprised Merv didn't use Jeopardy's theme for a part of that show (a la Family Feud's or Match Game HS hour on TPiR). Merv appeared to be cheap (both with his money & his ego). That's why Chuck walked.
@@ryanstrnad1852 He wasn't the only one who did that. As you mentioned Mark Goodson did it, Jack Barry and Dan Enright did it with how Joker's Wild and Tic Tac Dough both shared the same cues in everything but the theme and win cues, Bob Stewart was especially infamous for reusing themes for his game shows, I don't think there was a single game show of his that did not have a reused theme.
True, first, I do want to say something about Merv; learning about how he wouldn't let NBC "pay for the difference" when Woolery wanted about the same salary that he quoted Richard Dawson of making over at "the Feud" and how Merv fought NBC to name this show "Wheel of Fortune" in the first place (NBC wanted it called "Shoppers Buzarre"), it left a bad taste in my mouth about Mr. Griffin considering how he would make some cutthroat decisions and wouldn't give in (I also heard recently that his "right hand man" John Tobyason was put in charge of the Wink Martindale created show "Headline Chasers" that Merv picked up. Martindale alluded to on a rather recent interview that there was some headbutting going on there between him & Merv's above said Tobyason), that's why I look at Merv Griffin through a negative light. Now, on the common themes, Bob Stewart used the same theme for the '75 "Blankety Blanks" & the '86 "Celebrity Double Talk". I've heard the USA Network version of Jackpot theme used for at least one of his pilots. Stewart was another one who had a falling out with another producer, remember, he worked for Goodson & Todman and he created Password himself, then left & started his own production company. He had said Mark Goodson would avoid talking with him (including when they were at the same in person events) ever since. I like Stewart, I admired Goodson but I'm sure Griffin hurt alot of people's feelings during his management career. Did play some favorites though, Vanna White for one. Got Ryan Seacrest's career off to a good start too, with a kids game show "Click" way back when.
This was way before Pat and Vanna took over.
Was there no bonus round in the Woolery Version?
The Bonus Round arrived during Chuck's last week. At the time, and sometime before the syndicated edition appeared, it was conducted from the contestants' podium.
I could be wrong, but just by sheer coincidence I think the bonus puzzle debuted on Pat's first show. They did have a bonus puzzle when they tried a one hour format, but that didn't last long....
They experimented with a bonus round in 1978. There was a token called "star bonus" where if you picked it up and did not win the game outright, you could choose one of 4 difficulties and attempt to solve 1 puzzle to win the game. 4 consonants and 1 vowel were chosen and the player had 15 seconds to solve.
Hell, Sajak wasn't even the second best host of the show... Bob Goen did a damn good job too.
Yes def Chuck and Bob were good hosts.
Bob Goes was good looking, too! Pat just looks like a bored bassett hound or soemthing.
Let me guess: Rolf was the best?
$330 for that phone???😮
So much better. I never liked Pat Sajak. He just seemed like a phony to me.
Pat is just very quirky, In my opinion anyway. I will say I do like Chuck's personality, He's like a dork but in a charming way. When he does make a mistake he's always the first one to say "way to blow it Chuck...."
This job is for extraverts, and Sajak is an introvert. This job fit Woolery like a glove. Too bad Griffin sacked him or he left on his own.
1:51 puzzle boad song
Susan looks pretty. As always.
Id take Susan over Vanna anyday.
It was more fun
I don’t like Woolery’s politics, but he had humor, voice, personality, and knew the board really well. See how fast he replies to the contestants letter choices. Sajak, OTOH, never had any personality or charisma at all, yet struck it rich hosting a game show while being completely bland, boring, and talentless. Maybe he was a good weatherman?