Not sure what the missus thinks wearing your good uggs on this job, but great vid and good to know of this product. You run tubeless it's an absolute must the sealant works
I use orange seal and my mountain bike and also my gravel bike, which I haven’t been riding lately and I took and removed all the sealant out of it. Yes, using my fingers and nails and just scratching the membrane completely out of both tires cleaning it up as best as I could, and I’m waiting for some TPU tube to arrive. I’m gonna install them that way I could least ride the bike and not have to worry about dried out sealant which is orange seal is what I use and yes, it does get dried up. It’s great stuff !! And I use orange seal in my mountain bike too that gets more use.
Handy tio, if you get a pair of garden gloves you'll find you can run the old sealant off the inside of the tire using your palm. Don't get me wrong, it's still a pain but the grip on the gloves really helps
The actual tyres? Road tires I find I get around 5/6000km before the top is squared off. Gravel it really depends on the brand. Some of the chunky ones can last on 2000km if I've been on the road. But pathfinder pro's last for a good 6/7000km I find
Orange Seal is the sealant that is easiest to live with. Seals big holes, coats the tire with a thin latex membrane, easy to clean off hard surfaces or peel off tires. When dried up, it weighs half as much as the competition as well. Their booth at Sea Otter is amusingly quite empty. It’s just a few bottles of sealant and two bike stands for racers who flat.
I just run gravel tire inserts with standard stan's, same with my mountain bike, works and easier to clean up. The inserts I'm using are like, only 33g each so pretty worth it for me.
So you have to use a special pump or compressor to seat the bead, what happens if you're out on the road and the tire bead did not stay planted in the bead channel? C02 doesn't always work. What do you do then? 😕😢
I think that’s a good question I have to is if you unseat a bead whether to install sealant if you bring it with you or to put it, let’s say TPU tube in or any tube and you don’t have a pump. I’m talking to Tire namely what a CO2 cartridge have enough force or power to bead ?? That’s the question I’m wondering Thank You 🤔
Have used Silca and as you stated though its effective, its also hard to work with. Decided to give the regular orange seal a try since I would prefer to inject the sealant. i have decided to use road tubless inserts so I do not wish to spend time unseating tires. Yes Silca offers a replenisher which I have but there is the issue of it clogging valve stems. I went as far as buying whats labveled a hi flow valve which is unlikely to clog. Anyway with Orange seal there is no need to buy two variants (reg plus replenisher) , its also cheaper than Silca, moreso if you have to also purchase the replenisher.
I have used orange and it’s not bad. SILCA, I think is better but due to the difficulty of adding fresh sealant I use it for MTN only. For gravel, I’m trying caffelatex…so far so good. Similar process to orange.
I run Orange Endurance sealant in my Tubular Tires(Ya Ya.. I still ride tubular So what) as well as my New Tubeless tires. In either case you just want them to seal. I like the ability to just inject it through the valve stem Vs having to pour it in. Less Mess Less Fuss.
@@NinthwaveThe 2oz of water. srsly. once you plop in that goopy orange stuff, you only have to keep it goopy. every 3 or 4 months i'll add some water to the tires, but it's really hot here so in fall/winter i dont have to do it at all. it stays liquid for a long time.. i just add water to dilute it a bit
A tube lasts years, and costs less that setting up tyres to be tubeless. How long does a bottle of gunk last, and how long does the gunk last in the tyre? Let alone the increasing number of stories of gunk coming out of tyres while riding. Gotta hand it to bike industry heirarchy to come up with another way to make money with a product that's not even required, considering tubed tyres work extremely well.
It's not practical to run tubeless were I live because we don't have things that cause tiny holes, we have crap that cuts holes that sealant can't seal. After years of trying tubeless tires and sealants I have never had a flat on the road which the sealant worked on. I've had many flats. I use TPU tubes and I carry 3 spares and a frame pump and I've not been left walking since. Tubeless setups are expensive and require lots of timely procedures and depending how far you are left walking can ruin a set of cleats or even shoes. I will never ever try tubeless again. The question I ask myself is why do people even still try this technology when we know now how bad it is.
“We know how bad it is”? Yes, we know it’s great. I’ve been riding tubeless since 2015 and I’ve had four punctures over that time. This is for 15,000+ km / year on both paved and unpaved surfaces. All four punctures were due to not having enough sealant (i.e.,user error). It’s fine to tell us your experience, but don’t tell me mine.
That sounds like an extremely specific set of circumstances that applies to a very small subset of people, you included. The truth is that tubeless works for most people for most situations. I still carry a spare tube and pump, but have used them exactly once in about a decade. For gravel and MTB, cant be beat for MOST riding conditions
@@connergiven89 I was a mountain biker before I was a road bike rider, I traveled and raced MTB and adopted tubeless before everybody. We didn't have tubeless valves and rim tape and would cut innertubes to make it work, called it Getto tubeless. That said I really wanted tubeless to work with the road bike but it just doesn't work under high pressures. You say the truth is tubeless works for most people, you are preaching to guy guy who knows it doesn't, not for road bikes that require high pressure. It just doesn't.
@@charlesmansplaining are you illiterate? I literally said in my comment that it works for most people for mtb and gravel applications. What I did NOT say is that tubeless works best for road applications. Maybe focus on what peoples points actually say instead of how those comments make you feel, then you can engage in debate from a place of point by point critique and not blind emotional rebuttal.
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Not sure what the missus thinks wearing your good uggs on this job, but great vid and good to know of this product. You run tubeless it's an absolute must the sealant works
These are the working UGGs 😅
Been using the silica sealant this year and really happy with it so far
Will keep orange seal endurance in mind though next time
If it's working for you mate, stick with it 🤘
How do Dynaplugs not damage the rim if it goes flat with one of those in it? Seems like it'd destroy a rim?
Even if the tire is completely flat, because of the rim there is still a big gap between the spur of the plug and the rim bed if that makes sense
I use the same sealant and process with my Conti GP5000, straight forward and limited fuss.
Ye, I'm not going back from this stuff now I think
I use orange seal and my mountain bike and also my gravel bike, which I haven’t been riding lately and I took and removed all the sealant out of it. Yes, using my fingers and nails and just scratching the membrane completely out of both tires cleaning it up as best as I could, and I’m waiting for some TPU tube to arrive. I’m gonna install them that way I could least ride the bike and not have to worry about dried out sealant which is orange seal is what I use and yes, it does get dried up. It’s great stuff !! And I use orange seal in my mountain bike too that gets more use.
Handy tio, if you get a pair of garden gloves you'll find you can run the old sealant off the inside of the tire using your palm. Don't get me wrong, it's still a pain but the grip on the gloves really helps
@SpinAnGrin, how often do you replenish your tires ?
The actual tyres? Road tires I find I get around 5/6000km before the top is squared off. Gravel it really depends on the brand.
Some of the chunky ones can last on 2000km if I've been on the road. But pathfinder pro's last for a good 6/7000km I find
Orange Seal is the sealant that is easiest to live with. Seals big holes, coats the tire with a thin latex membrane, easy to clean off hard surfaces or peel off tires. When dried up, it weighs half as much as the competition as well. Their booth at Sea Otter is amusingly quite empty. It’s just a few bottles of sealant and two bike stands for racers who flat.
Interesting about the stand, I guess when everyone knows it's the best you don't really need to market it 😅
Yay new video🎉
So it's not better than silca, but rather it also works, and is more practical to use, correct?
Yes. Its sealed holes for me exactly the same as Silca however it has the added bonus of being much easier to install and maintain
I just run gravel tire inserts with standard stan's, same with my mountain bike, works and easier to clean up. The inserts I'm using are like, only 33g each so pretty worth it for me.
So you have to use a special pump or compressor to seat the bead, what happens if you're out on the road and the tire bead did not stay planted in the bead channel? C02 doesn't always work. What do you do then? 😕😢
You don't have to buy it makes it easier to seat the tire. I can't say I've ever heard of a tire coming off the bead on the road 🤔
Put a tube in.
I think that’s a good question I have to is if you unseat a bead whether to install sealant if you bring it with you or to put it, let’s say TPU tube in or any tube and you don’t have a pump. I’m talking to Tire namely what a CO2 cartridge have enough force or power to bead ?? That’s the question I’m wondering Thank You 🤔
@@shirtlessGraveler305 It's been my experience that C02 doesn't always work to get the bead set. In fact I have had more fails than successes.
Depending on how far from home I go or if I'm riding gravel or road, I will carry a pump with me. I can seat a tire with my Silca hand pump
Have used Silca and as you stated though its effective, its also hard to work with. Decided to give the regular orange seal a try since I would prefer to inject the sealant. i have decided to use road tubless inserts so I do not wish to spend time unseating tires. Yes Silca offers a replenisher which I have but there is the issue of it clogging valve stems. I went as far as buying whats labveled a hi flow valve which is unlikely to clog. Anyway with Orange seal there is no need to buy two variants (reg plus replenisher) , its also cheaper than Silca, moreso if you have to also purchase the replenisher.
Ye, it's a common journey I think an it's definitely easier
Need a video on best sealant cleaner remover.
@@MooreMatt seconded. I love Orange Seal but removing sealant is still a pain (better than punctures.)
I still just use garden gloves and rub the stuff off when needed. The gloves help with a grippy surface but it's still a chore
I have used orange and it’s not bad. SILCA, I think is better but due to the difficulty of adding fresh sealant I use it for MTN only. For gravel, I’m trying caffelatex…so far so good. Similar process to orange.
Can't say I've heard of that brand, we appear to be a bit limited with options in Australia
@@SpinAnGrin effetto Mariposa is the brand, caffelatex is the name of sealant. Italian brand…hard to get in the USA as well.
I run Orange Endurance sealant in my Tubular Tires(Ya Ya.. I still ride tubular So what) as well as my New Tubeless tires. In either case you just want them to seal. I like the ability to just inject it through the valve stem Vs having to pour it in. Less Mess Less Fuss.
Agree, it makes it much more straightforward and user friendly
British English = Tyre
American English = Tire
Are you using Endurance or regular sealant?
This is the regular one as it's all I can get my hands on in Australia
I was thinking of going back to Orange too. Currently using Vittoria sealant which has been good but I'm almost out of it. It stains like a btch tho.
Even orange seal does if you get it on the floor 🫣
Time for me to change my sealant to Orange 🍊 ❤ Stan hasn’t really worked well for me in the past
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@@SpinAnGrin not if you have 6 bikes ;)
How often do you replenish?
@@NinthwaveThe 2oz of water. srsly. once you plop in that goopy orange stuff, you only have to keep it goopy. every 3 or 4 months i'll add some water to the tires, but it's really hot here so in fall/winter i dont have to do it at all. it stays liquid for a long time.. i just add water to dilute it a bit
A tube lasts years, and costs less that setting up tyres to be tubeless.
How long does a bottle of gunk last, and how long does the gunk last in the tyre?
Let alone the increasing number of stories of gunk coming out of tyres while riding.
Gotta hand it to bike industry heirarchy to come up with another way to make money with a product that's not even required, considering tubed tyres work extremely well.
😂 I'm young peaties at the moment
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Brooo the uggies😂😂😂
Love them 🤘
@@SpinAnGrin Hilarious, thanks for The video😁
It's not practical to run tubeless were I live because we don't have things that cause tiny holes, we have crap that cuts holes that sealant can't seal. After years of trying tubeless tires and sealants I have never had a flat on the road which the sealant worked on. I've had many flats. I use TPU tubes and I carry 3 spares and a frame pump and I've not been left walking since. Tubeless setups are expensive and require lots of timely procedures and depending how far you are left walking can ruin a set of cleats or even shoes. I will never ever try tubeless again. The question I ask myself is why do people even still try this technology when we know now how bad it is.
“We know how bad it is”? Yes, we know it’s great. I’ve been riding tubeless since 2015 and I’ve had four punctures over that time. This is for 15,000+ km / year on both paved and unpaved surfaces. All four punctures were due to not having enough sealant (i.e.,user error). It’s fine to tell us your experience, but don’t tell me mine.
That sounds like an extremely specific set of circumstances that applies to a very small subset of people, you included. The truth is that tubeless works for most people for most situations. I still carry a spare tube and pump, but have used them exactly once in about a decade. For gravel and MTB, cant be beat for MOST riding conditions
For me it's not practical to run tubes
@@connergiven89 I was a mountain biker before I was a road bike rider, I traveled and raced MTB and adopted tubeless before everybody. We didn't have tubeless valves and rim tape and would cut innertubes to make it work, called it Getto tubeless. That said I really wanted tubeless to work with the road bike but it just doesn't work under high pressures. You say the truth is tubeless works for most people, you are preaching to guy guy who knows it doesn't, not for road bikes that require high pressure. It just doesn't.
@@charlesmansplaining are you illiterate? I literally said in my comment that it works for most people for mtb and gravel applications. What I did NOT say is that tubeless works best for road applications. Maybe focus on what peoples points actually say instead of how those comments make you feel, then you can engage in debate from a place of point by point critique and not blind emotional rebuttal.