Aside from the moderator looking at the camera this is definitely one of the best technical presentations on speaker placement I've ever seen. It really makes sense to me. For example, I had a 5.2 Atlantic Technology many many years ago. My room is 14 L X12 W and I had tv and speakers next to the tv and my two subs (8") next to the tv (57" Sony) placed asymetrically. Seating was approx. 8' from tv. The calibration disc was a Sound and Vision one that really only measured the distance and volume with a SPL meter. The one thing I vividly remember about that setup was the bass you could feel in the chest. All from 2 8" subs. I remember having friends over and a guest commenting about the physical punch in his chest. I have been chasing that sound for over 25 years. Of all the times I've rearranged my sytem over the years I've never put my subs (2 SVS PB1000) on what is now side wall. I was about to do that but my AVR crapped out on me (Pioneer VSX 52.) That AVR had the MCACC calibration tool and the more I think about it, and read, there are definitely pros-cons about any speaker setup software. To be continued....
I literally took advice from this video and have already seen a drastic improvement in the way sound fills my space. I used the 5:2 ratio and moved the speakers further from the rear walls. I thought I had a great sound stage before, but boy was I missing out. It is truly unbelievable how such small changes can have such a large impact. Thank you for posting this great discussion.
Don't worry, David. We'll have a transcript of the video soon. But... I've hidden a close up of me looking at you somewhere in it. Very suspenseful. Best horror experience of 2018. Promise 😂//Christopher.
ROFLMAO - we have a trigger-happy sociopath in the White House and you're 'terrified' that some guy in a *video* might randomly look at the camera ?? The Russians are fighting a proxy war with the US and its allies in Syria but, what the hell, I guess we have to prioritize our fears ;)
I listen to a lot of people on RUclips talk about audio and 9 times out of 10 I ask myself, "Does this person really know what they are talking about"? I didn't ask myself that once during the video. Its excellent.
THIS seems to me to be a ‘one of a kind’ on RUclips, presently. These are very real World - oriented examples, and the effecting and influencing factors that are discussed are the farthest reaching. Certainly, I could find a textbook, and go digging through the many pages to find a few mundane and monotonous calculations that are only going to give me a general hint at best and eventually lead me into doing huge amounts of mathematics then to only account for trivial artifacts that are dismissible. Grade A - PLUS discussion here! THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR SHARING!!
How cares about the odd staring... the content is great, well presented and it sure addresses the right questions. I am not kidding, after watching the full video I went back to my listening room, applied the 1/5 rule, set toe-in, play a bit with the position of the chair and voilá, amazing soundstage and deep controlled bass came out. In 2 hours I got the results I was trying for months...Oh and my speakers are KEF LS50. Thanks a lot guys.
Best video I've seen on the subject, hands down. And I've seen a few. The graphs are a great help to understand what's up and how to go about placing your speakers. Thanks very much.
Useful advice. One trick I like to use for adjusting focus with a mono signal, is to simply connect both speakers to one channel of the amplifier. This also eliminates any variations in the phase or channel balance caused by the electronics. Make sure your amplifier is happy driving the lower impedance load first however! My favorite track for checking bass smoothness is Flight of the Cosmic Hippo, by Bela Fleck and the Flecktones. It has a bass solo that goes up and down the scale and extends extremely deep at points. It shows problems very quickly.
OK, so this video is a gamechanger. I actually didn't realise my room was very nearly square until measuring. Using 8:5 rule and making equilateral triangle out of speakers and listening position everything has been brought into focus. I dare say things can be improved further, however its now 1am and I can't tear myself away! I have a lot of love for this man who cares enough to check we're still paying attention throughout the video. Thank you sir 🙏
Thank you, Roland. I tried the one fifth rule on my setup (room is figure L reversed). What a difference. I first used a local, quality FM jazz station because some of the classics have a lot of bass performers. Then used some smooth jazz cds. I thought I had good bass from my speakers, but using your method I discovered so much more response. Mid and high frequencies also seemed clearer. Thanks, again, for your easy to follow instructions. I will be doing more experimenting to fine tune. John
Excellent and informative. When the presenter keeps looking at the camera, it gives it a cartoon-like quality. But definitely one of the best I’ve seen. Thanks Dynaudio!
Excellent masterclass. Use these measurements to mark the distance from the speaker to the rear wall (1/5) but for the distance from the side wall apply 1/7. This approach is like the one Vandersteen suggests, which consists of dividing the room into odd numbers and finding your best location As a Dynaudio user and now a Perlisten user, great masterclass
Informative video. One thing not mentioned in the section on square rooms was setting the speakers in a diagonal configuration. This removes a lot of the negatives issues associated with square rooms. If you have a square room, try it on a slow weekend.
This was very informative Mr. Roland Hoffmann giving godlike advice to the masses now i have to look for all videos with him to get all info possible, ill implement some of what i learned into my setup.
I'm happy you liked Roland's advice. There are two other Ask the Expert videos with him on our channel: Active crossovers - ruclips.net/video/I2XTQO0f7n4/видео.html&list=PLBuQeivjmn75-xCnwm8NFCFXlEoiMwQcC The principle of a Dynaudio tweeter: ruclips.net/video/YbqOtroPwJk/видео.html&list=PLBuQeivjmn75-xCnwm8NFCFXlEoiMwQcC. Enjoy! 😌 //Christopher.
That’s a great class! The host asked a lot of good questions and the guest has great answers who was able to answer what would be happened when it was away from the norm. You know, It is easy to tell someone what is right without telling people why. I particularly like the breaking the symmetry idea which I never heard people say.
Each of my speakers has 4 tweeters, 2 midrange, and 1 12" woofer. In my apartment the low frequencies were cancelling out. So I reversed the polarity of one woofer. What a difference. With this push pull setup, the low frequencies are fully active and they vary very little no matter where in the room you stand or sit.
Thanks this is really great. I've been messing around with speaker and listening placement for years and I find this 1/5th placement to be generally excellent!
Watched this on my Apple TV and really enjoyed it. I feel really educated by this - so thank you. Why am I pointing out the Apple TV? Well, it doesn't have the option to read comments so I fired up my computer just to come here and read all the comments about the rude and creepy looks into the camera while the expert is answering the questions.
This video really brings out the problems with most conventional speakers that is if you get everything right there is only a small area where both speakers sound good and give good imaging . A little known unconventional speaker solves these problems and that is the Ohm Acoustics Walsh series semi-omnidirectional speakers , with them placement is not as critical and both speakers can be heard equally well with world class imaging ANY pace in the room ! In the audiofile world they are mid priced and they offer an in home 120 day free trial but if you can't afford new ones pick up the original Walsh 2 on E-Bay which Ohm claims and I can attest that they still sound better than 99% of new speakers out there.
lee kumiega No speaker cancels out standing waves or bass boom issues. You seem pretty stoked on these speakers. Are you a product shill or merely a Walsh fanboy? Please make a disclosure so we know your intent.
I want that dude in the room with me when I'm working and looking at me like that every once in a while. Like not ever saying anything, just like browsing twitter on his phone and giving me that exact look. My productivity going through the roof.
Yes, I understand Christopher (I presume) wants us, the viewers to feel involved and being payed attention to. I really had a laugh when I saw the comments about people literally feeling uncomfortable from this. Well, it's because it's not easy to perform casually in front of a camera.
I follow the 1/5 rule to set the speakers. It makes the bass and clarity improved. Everything comes into its place. Thanks for the tutorial video. Very helpful and informative even though I'm not using Dynaudio speaker.
Very helpfull advice. After fitting new tubes (all of them) my soundstage changed dramaticly so I started finding the new spots. So crazy a 4mm angle in tow out or in of the speakers changes everything in my room.
Very helpful presentation thank you. I just replaced my PMC Twenty26 with MB2SE much larger speakers. Starting position is same as the Twenty26. Measured the distance apart Centre to Centre at 3.2m. Perfect really. Thanks for the tip. Mine is a special case room because it is open at the back creating a shoebox rectangle with an arch divider halfway splitting the room into living area and dining area. I use the living area for tv projector movies and music with sep electronics for each. Walls are of concrete block. Lots of furniture cushions and a rug. Bass feels good at the LP.
I think anybody that is buying their first set of monitors, needs to watch this. I remember when I got my first set one didn't sound the same as the other so I brought them back to Guitar Center. so I had to exchange for another pair and then I realized it was because of how I was setting them up. you live you learn and you grow
LOL, why does this dude keep looking at the camera? Dude, look at the person you invited and pay attention to him, he is pointing stuff out and you are missing it. Everytime he look as the camera, I give him a Thumbs Up!
Great, Roland is back. I like you are covering important topics like room accoustics. Btw, Kristoffer- the way you randomly look at the camera is hilarious
87% of experienced speaker designers recommend to position b o t h speakers i n s i d e the listening room. ( Journal Of Applied Audio Wisdom, Tahachepe, 2013)
lol... sorry for this one but, NILES CRANE from the t.v. show Frasier. That's who the one guy reminds me of. It was killing me from the beginning of the video because it took me a few minutes to figure out who he reminded me of. Both his appearance and mannerisms. Not a bad character to be compared to overall. But struck me as a little funny how much he resembled him.
Very concrete, helpful and informative. Exactly the information I have been needing to understand my experiences with sitting position and get some ideas for finessing it. Practical talk that one can put to work immediately. Well done.
Anyhow. I'm just happy you were entertained - and had a couple of laughs along the way 😌 Hopefully you also found something useful in the video. //Christopher.
That's a kind attitude. Yes, it was fun. As far as learning on the subject, it's one of those subjects that I switch off on when it goes into this much detail. Reminds me of school and the lessons I didn't understand. I think for me, I need small amounts of information at a time.. or I can feel overloaded. However, I value the product you make and the attention to detail. Excellence is something that I'm always inspired by. All the best. James.
i still dig the 48 yr old ALTEC A-500s i bought inj 72,,,they amp any music source!~ ,, even a transistor radio i saw the technician hook up to his A-500 components which he ordered to build his own cabinets ,,,they were equal to ALTEC Barcelonas when he finished em which were $1400.00 a pair in 1975. We had a wall of speakers for demos and you could try em am all , except for Klipsh which we did not carry and JBL was ok. Aand M records in Cali had four A-500s in their studio. I remember their albums were always crystal clear especially "THE CAPENTERS"
Two things can make it brake a surround sound system. The center channel, which is playing 100%of the time and your subwoofer. I personally like ceiling flush mount speakers. I have all 5 channels in ceiling. All are 6.5 inch Proficient highest level speakers. Front two and center channel are mounted internally at a angle towards seating, instead of aiming straight down. These speakers have a decent wide cone of sound, which allows for more seating. Subwoofers are the tricky subject. Subwoofers use the volume of your room as part of the enclosure. Different size subwoofers will pick up different frequencies. Small subs give that punchy sound such as gun shots, but don't do as well with deep explosion sounds typically. Larger subs suffer with the quick punchy sounds many times. The subwoofer enclosure design can help with it's performance. Then there's down firing, front firing and back firing. From my experience in home and car audio, the more base reflects the better. I have two subwoofers. One is a 10 inch down fire with forward port which is located in the front left corner of my room and is only about 10 inches from both walls. The other is a 10 inch rear firing speaker and port that's located in the back right corner. I have no dead spots of my room. There are always ways to prevent dead spots so that you may sit almost anywhere. Just takes the right speakers and configuration. Also many receivers have the calibration modes that uses a microphone that comes with it which helps calibration of the speakers frequencies to allow for more seating spots. Movie theaters use multiple speakers and sound dampening materials to make most of the room equally good in sound.
Dynaudio rocks and also this series. Thank you for creating such amazing speakers and also the ask the expert. Really useful. I have a Xeo 30 set and made all the difference to change the placement. I have now 2 placements with marks on the floor so I don't miss it. One for normal use and more close to the wall, so that my family does not fall on the speaker and another when I am alone in the perfect position. Both work well and the 8:5 rule and the 1/5 really works for me.
Thanks so much, Nuno. We really appreciate it. And it's great that you found some tips in the video that you could use at home; that's what it's all about for us 👏 //Christopher.
I think I understand why he looks at the viewer, I think he is looking into the camera (at us) to include us in the discussion as if we are there in the room with them. Much the same way virtually every news/sports caster looks into the camera.
jajajajaja, I complete agree with you guys, I think he has a mirror un front and he likes his hair style... Seriously, its a good video and defines very well sound stage and the answer to such a simple and common question. Thanks for your work.
haha 😆 I do like my hair style. But, it doesn't reflect in the lens unfortunately. And to be honest. I wasn't having the best hair day when we filmed this one... Glad you liked the content, Isaac. That's what matters most to us! //Christopher.
A good choice, as it was one of the first modern pop records mixed with dynamic range, even before Spotify and streaming services helped mitigate the loudness wars. Mick Gazauski is a beast mix engineer, but the secret sauce is headroom for that glorious low end.
If you have the room your speakers should be placed in two corners opposite each other with them slightly turned inward, or 2 speakers in a single corner projecting outward at an angle that is toward the interior of the house. Try to pick corners furthest away from windows. The will cause the sound signal to bounce of all the walls and reduce any chance of having your signals get "out of phase". Subs, place 10-16" (depending on size) away from the wall between - halfway between - the corner speakers turning the driver backwards facing the wall. If 2 subs, have them face the side walls behind the speakers one in each corner again the distance recommended (you may need to play with the ditance a little bit but doing this again will make sure your sub(s) don't get out of phase signals reducing the subs effectiveness. Use your ears, no need to go get crazy with a microphone. If you need a mic, then you don't have trained ears and won't notice the difference anyway). You will be surprised how much better your stereo system and speakers sound. Placing your speakers flat against a wall saves space, but is just about the worse place to locate speakers. It's doubtful you will need to make any "time" adjustment, but possible with a single sub in the middle could be just slightly ahead of the corners speakers and a 1 or 2 millisecond reduction will make everything fit tight and sound great. Not trying to step on anyone's toes here, but there are just too many goofy "ifs" and "thats" videos out there about speaker placement, and this is the simple truth for any room.
Hei. Har ei L forma stova. Detta er det heilt klart utfordringar med å få best mulig lyd i sveet spott. Kan du hjelpe med å forklare hva eg burde gjere?
This is the most real talk on this subject that I have seen on You Tube so far. There's so many nut job audiophools around here giving ridiculous, make believe advice that is completely unfounded. As an added bonus they dress their theories up with their stupid audiophool terminology nonsense.
I've found *in my room* the distance from the back wall is best calculated using Pythagoras' Golden Section. So, from the wall behind the speaker to the front of the speaker, is 0.618. The distance from the front of the speaker to the listening position represents 1. The total is 1.618
I lolled every time the guy on the left looked to the camera. anyways, great video. thanks for the well explained info that I certainly learned from. good stuff. thumbs up.
I haven't tried it yet but you talking about specific tracks for bass listening immediately called "Longview" by Green Day to mind. Strong walking bass line with a good variety and easy to focus on. I would also think "Beastly" by Vulfpeck... or a lot of Vulf songs, Joe Dart is the MAN! I'm watching this before setting up my stereo in a different challenging room and had already planned on breaking in my new copy of Vulf Vault 001: Best of Antwaun Stanley once it's set up :) Great info, cheers! PS- Christopher stop staring into my soul 😂
Great video. Very helpful for me as I am presently experimenting with speaker placement. The song recommendations for bass, kids, and highs are very helpful tip
Amazing! Thanks a million, Roland. In my quite difficult listening room, I have used the track from Norah Jones (40:15) proposed by Roland (Almost everything on this recording is dead center). A few centimeters less distance between the loudspeakers, a little bit of toeing-in AND THERE WE GO! Dead on center. Jennifer Warnes' Bird on a wire as well sounds terrific now.
Very interesting! Ihave this "lost bass" problem! The best sound is often when i stand on the coffee table 😅. I suppose the sound coming from speakers to ceiling to sofa crashes with the sound coming straight from the speakers??!! I have a wide room about 7meters wide and 5 deep!
Good question, 1/5th i would guess. I got lucky, my stands put the center of the speakers (just above the woofer and below the tweeter) 3 feet from the floor, my ceiling is 15' feet high, and my listening ear height is 3 feet.
For me Im enjoying a lot having my speakers to the right and left of me facing the direction Im facing. I think because in a lot of music we are going on a journey with the artist particullarly piano music.
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Every time this dude looks at me...He makes me feel like I did something wrong
He sees all. What did you do?
I think they got the work experience guy or girl or non gender specific person to direct this..
Thank you for saying that xD
Low self esteem
Lol
That guy looking onto the camera keeps making me laugh!!LOL Hillarios
Same here. Every single time he turned around I had to laugh. Hilarious,,
Fucking hilarious 😂🤣😂😂🤣 reminded me of that Kevin hart scene
exactly....he is doing this as if youre actually in the room with them....but its wild to watch.
Mmmm mmhmm
It’s like he’s judging us for how much we spent on our setups😂
Aside from the moderator looking at the camera this is definitely one of the best technical presentations on speaker placement I've ever seen. It really makes sense to me. For example, I had a 5.2 Atlantic Technology many many years ago. My room is 14 L X12 W and I had tv and speakers next to the tv and my two subs (8") next to the tv (57" Sony) placed asymetrically. Seating was approx. 8' from tv. The calibration disc was a Sound and Vision one that really only measured the distance and volume with a SPL meter. The one thing I vividly remember about that setup was the bass you could feel in the chest. All from 2 8" subs. I remember having friends over and a guest commenting about the physical punch in his chest. I have been chasing that sound for over 25 years. Of all the times I've rearranged my sytem over the years I've never put my subs (2 SVS PB1000) on what is now side wall. I was about to do that but my AVR crapped out on me (Pioneer VSX 52.) That AVR had the MCACC calibration tool and the more I think about it, and read, there are definitely pros-cons about any speaker setup software. To be continued....
but that's what's so funny for me, i was hoping he would turn completely around and stare into the camera on the over the shoulder look 🤣
I literally took advice from this video and have already seen a drastic improvement in the way sound fills my space. I used the 5:2 ratio and moved the speakers further from the rear walls. I thought I had a great sound stage before, but boy was I missing out. It is truly unbelievable how such small changes can have such a large impact. Thank you for posting this great discussion.
Can not thank Roland Hoffmann enough. The 1/5 rule for speaker setup is pure gold. What a difference to my results before. Incredible room depth.
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I'd really like to watch this video to the end but I'm terrified about the guy who randomly looks at me. It's creepy as hell.
Don't worry, David. We'll have a transcript of the video soon. But... I've hidden a close up of me looking at you somewhere in it. Very suspenseful. Best horror experience of 2018. Promise 😂//Christopher.
ROFLMAO - we have a trigger-happy sociopath in the White House and you're 'terrified' that some guy in a *video* might randomly look at the camera ?? The Russians are fighting a proxy war with the US and its allies in Syria but, what the hell, I guess we have to prioritize our fears ;)
I stayed a little longer to see it. LOL. 23:06
808 J ...haha, that's a good look all the way back to the camera!
Like on the London tube, I instinctively looked away when he caught me looking XD
What a great teacher ! Thank you Mr. Roland Hoffmann
Haven't started watching the video, but I heard about a strange man looking at the camera. Now I'm more excited to watch the video!
He looking back like...." hmmm. Interesting...you hear that guys?" 🤣
😂 The other guy had a look that said. What the fuck is he constantly looking at. I'm talking here dude.
Such a great educational resource. This reality-based approach, instead of mysticism, is one reason why I continue to use Dynaudio.
Thanks, David 👏 I'm happy you like our way of approaching these topics. //Christopher.
I'm so glad I tried this method of speaker placement. With some modifications it's incredible what I am now hearing
Great!
One of my favourite presentations on speaker placement, Ive come back to this a few times now. Thank you!
Wow, that's great to hear, and definitely what we aim for - nothing more rewarding than a repeat customer 🙂
I listen to a lot of people on RUclips talk about audio and 9 times out of 10 I ask myself, "Does this person really know what they are talking about"? I didn't ask myself that once during the video. Its excellent.
THIS seems to me to be a ‘one of a kind’ on RUclips, presently. These are very real World - oriented examples, and the effecting and influencing factors that are discussed are the farthest reaching. Certainly, I could find a textbook, and go digging through the many pages to find a few mundane and monotonous calculations that are only going to give me a general hint at best and eventually lead me into doing huge amounts of mathematics then to only account for trivial artifacts that are dismissible. Grade A - PLUS discussion here! THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR SHARING!!
Jesus dude spit it out
How cares about the odd staring... the content is great, well presented and it sure addresses the right questions. I am not kidding, after watching the full video I went back to my listening room, applied the 1/5 rule, set toe-in, play a bit with the position of the chair and voilá, amazing soundstage and deep controlled bass came out. In 2 hours I got the results
I was trying for months...Oh and my speakers are KEF
LS50. Thanks a lot guys.
Best video I've seen on the subject, hands down. And I've seen a few. The graphs are a great help to understand what's up and how to go about placing your speakers. Thanks very much.
Easily the most informative guide on speaker setup !
The content is fantastic, really learned a lot. Thanks.
The presentation...hmm. Just ignore us, talk to each other!
Useful advice. One trick I like to use for adjusting focus with a mono signal, is to simply connect both speakers to one channel of the amplifier. This also eliminates any variations in the phase or channel balance caused by the electronics. Make sure your amplifier is happy driving the lower impedance load first however! My favorite track for checking bass smoothness is Flight of the Cosmic Hippo, by Bela Fleck and the Flecktones. It has a bass solo that goes up and down the scale and extends extremely deep at points. It shows problems very quickly.
OK, so this video is a gamechanger. I actually didn't realise my room was very nearly square until measuring. Using 8:5 rule and making equilateral triangle out of speakers and listening position everything has been brought into focus. I dare say things can be improved further, however its now 1am and I can't tear myself away! I have a lot of love for this man who cares enough to check we're still paying attention throughout the video. Thank you sir 🙏
It is the most interesting explanation on the subject that I have ever seen. Thank you very much.
Thank you, Roland. I tried the one fifth rule on my setup (room is figure L reversed). What a difference. I first used a local, quality FM jazz station because some of the classics have a lot of bass performers. Then used some smooth jazz cds. I thought I had good bass from my speakers, but using your method I discovered so much more response. Mid and high frequencies also seemed clearer. Thanks, again, for your easy to follow instructions. I will be doing more experimenting to fine tune. John
Thanks, John. We're glad to hear that the video was of use!
Excellent and informative. When the presenter keeps looking at the camera, it gives it a cartoon-like quality. But definitely one of the best I’ve seen. Thanks Dynaudio!
Super creepy when that guy looks at the camera while the other guy is talking.
I can't watch this because of it.. lol
See my reply to David Smith 😂//Christopher.
23:06
I love it! Haha
LMAO!
I think you should do another video and just stare at the camera the whole time.🤩
Excellent masterclass. Use these measurements to mark the distance from the speaker to the rear wall (1/5) but for the distance from the side wall apply 1/7. This approach is like the one Vandersteen suggests, which consists of dividing the room into odd numbers and finding your best location
As a Dynaudio user and now a Perlisten user, great masterclass
Informative video. One thing not mentioned in the section on square rooms was setting the speakers in a diagonal configuration. This removes a lot of the negatives issues associated with square rooms. If you have a square room, try it on a slow weekend.
This was very informative Mr. Roland Hoffmann giving godlike advice to the masses now i have to look for all videos with him to get all info possible, ill implement some of what i learned into my setup.
I'm happy you liked Roland's advice. There are two other Ask the Expert videos with him on our channel:
Active crossovers - ruclips.net/video/I2XTQO0f7n4/видео.html&list=PLBuQeivjmn75-xCnwm8NFCFXlEoiMwQcC
The principle of a Dynaudio tweeter: ruclips.net/video/YbqOtroPwJk/видео.html&list=PLBuQeivjmn75-xCnwm8NFCFXlEoiMwQcC.
Enjoy! 😌 //Christopher.
That’s a great class! The host asked a lot of good questions and the guest has great answers who was able to answer what would be happened when it was away from the norm. You know, It is easy to tell someone what is right without telling people why.
I particularly like the breaking the symmetry idea which I never heard people say.
It was a good perstaion he speaks well you can understand what he's says well done thank you for the video
Each of my speakers has 4 tweeters, 2 midrange, and 1 12" woofer. In my apartment the low frequencies were cancelling out. So I reversed the polarity of one woofer. What a difference. With this push pull setup, the low frequencies are fully active and they vary very little no matter where in the room you stand or sit.
Everything in your reply doesn't make sense!
Fantastic video. Simple. Straight forward. Comprehensive. Thank you.
I was just going to take a bite of my sandwich, when the guy stared at me.. I put the sandwich down, I felt so rude..
😂😂
Thanks this is really great. I've been messing around with speaker and listening placement for years and I find this 1/5th placement to be generally excellent!
Happy to have been able to help 🙂
Watched this on my Apple TV and really enjoyed it. I feel really educated by this - so thank you.
Why am I pointing out the Apple TV? Well, it doesn't have the option to read comments so I fired up my computer just to come here and read all the comments about the rude and creepy looks into the camera while the expert is answering the questions.
Who cares?
This video really brings out the problems with most conventional speakers that is if you get everything right there is only a small area where both speakers sound good and give good imaging . A little known unconventional speaker solves these problems and that is the Ohm Acoustics Walsh series semi-omnidirectional speakers , with them placement is not as critical and both speakers can be heard equally well with world class imaging ANY pace in the room ! In the audiofile world they are mid priced and they offer an in home 120 day free trial but if you can't afford new ones pick up the original Walsh 2 on E-Bay which Ohm claims and I can attest that they still sound better than 99% of new speakers out there.
lee kumiega No speaker cancels out standing waves or bass boom issues. You seem pretty stoked on these speakers. Are you a product shill or merely a Walsh fanboy? Please make a disclosure so we know your intent.
Focus 380 owner here. Love Dynaudio. Owned my speakers for 2 years and still experimenting with positioning.
I want that dude in the room with me when I'm working and looking at me like that every once in a while. Like not ever saying anything, just like browsing twitter on his phone and giving me that exact look. My productivity going through the roof.
Yes, I understand Christopher (I presume) wants us, the viewers to feel involved and being payed attention to. I really had a laugh when I saw the comments about people literally feeling uncomfortable from this. Well, it's because it's not easy to perform casually in front of a camera.
😂
The best video about speaker positioning!
I follow the 1/5 rule to set the speakers. It makes the bass and clarity improved. Everything comes into its place. Thanks for the tutorial video. Very helpful and informative even though I'm not using Dynaudio speaker.
This was great, especially the recommendations for specific tracks that you can use to tweak your loudspeaker placement. Thank you.
Hi Jason, no problem - we're happy see you got some use from the video :)
The 68hz test makes everything so much easier. And trust me, it's just a couple of centimeters that makes the bass appear or disappear.
Very helpfull advice. After fitting new tubes (all of them) my soundstage changed dramaticly so I started finding the new spots. So crazy a 4mm angle in tow out or in of the speakers changes everything in my room.
Measure from the front of the speaker was a mind blown moment for me lol
Very helpful presentation thank you. I just replaced my PMC Twenty26 with MB2SE much larger speakers. Starting position is same as the Twenty26. Measured the distance apart Centre to Centre at 3.2m. Perfect really. Thanks for the tip. Mine is a special case room because it is open at the back creating a shoebox rectangle with an arch divider halfway splitting the room into living area and dining area. I use the living area for tv projector movies and music with sep electronics for each. Walls are of concrete block. Lots of furniture cushions and a rug. Bass feels good at the LP.
I'm a crusty old audiophile but still found new tips in this video. Thanks!
That's perfect! 😎You're most welcome. //Viktorija
Perfect!!! All questions that I would ask...were asked.
Great video to keep in favorites to come back to time to time or when changing up rooms.
Awesome. Thank you :-)
I think anybody that is buying their first set of monitors, needs to watch this. I remember when I got my first set one didn't sound the same as the other so I brought them back to Guitar Center. so I had to exchange for another pair and then I realized it was because of how I was setting them up. you live you learn and you grow
Hey mate, thanks for your feedback - you just pinpointed why we're doing this! Glad you liked it 😊 Cheers, Lilli
This sort of input is really appreciated from a serious audiophile. (PS I would swap my Triangle Cellos for Contours in an instant.)
I'm happy to hear that, zog zog 👌 (Also the part about the Contours 😉) //Christopher
LOL, why does this dude keep looking at the camera? Dude, look at the person you invited and pay attention to him, he is pointing stuff out and you are missing it. Everytime he look as the camera, I give him a Thumbs Up!
Great, Roland is back. I like you are covering important topics like room accoustics. Btw, Kristoffer- the way you randomly look at the camera is hilarious
Yeah, it's pretty peculiar; especially when Roland is behind me 😅Caught in the middle. //Christopher.
87% of experienced speaker designers recommend to position b o t h speakers i n s i d e the listening room. ( Journal Of Applied Audio Wisdom, Tahachepe, 2013)
Where do the other 13% recommend putting them?
Jack A. Lope Within visibility.
@@ChristianGoergen The same 87% also suggested the speakers should be hooked up to an amplifier.........
Jack A. Lope The advice of experts can be of certain value.
@@iamjackalope Next you are going to insist that the source be plugged into the amplifier too! Sheesh, Audiophiles are so picky!
Very informative. You look like a maniac looking at the camera when Roland is speaking 😂
'A maniac' is a little harsh, isn't it? 😉I'd say it's peculiar personally. But hey, nobody is perfect, eh? //Christopher.
I apologize and you are right. I liked the video and please keep up the good work!
@@ccc369 if we human behave like this then theres no need for war..admire ur honestly and humility sir
People are very sensitive and easily frightened here
Outstanding input. Thank you guys!
damn, that 5/8 ratio works well, thank you!
lol... sorry for this one but, NILES CRANE from the t.v. show Frasier. That's who the one guy reminds me of. It was killing me from the beginning of the video because it took me a few minutes to figure out who he reminded me of. Both his appearance and mannerisms. Not a bad character to be compared to overall. But struck me as a little funny how much he resembled him.
This is an outstanding video with tips on getting the most out of your stereo speakers.
Thanks, Jeff. Glad you liked the content 👌 //Christopher.
Wow . Just had a quick play with the 1/5 : 1/5 speaker placement and it’s like waking up from a slurring Dopey sleep
Thank you 🙏🏻
Very concrete, helpful and informative. Exactly the information I have been needing to understand my experiences with sitting position and get some ideas for finessing it. Practical talk that one can put to work immediately. Well done.
Thanks, Trevor. Much appreciated 😌 //Christopher.
THE BEST LOOK OF ALL 23:06 Does a 'love blink' too. HILARIOUS!
Haha, you're not a big fan of my 'bedroom eyes,' are you 808 J? 😉 //Christopher.
haha...being suggestive at the same time. Thanks for posting! 13:48 moan too!
Anyhow. I'm just happy you were entertained - and had a couple of laughs along the way 😌 Hopefully you also found something useful in the video. //Christopher.
That's a kind attitude. Yes, it was fun. As far as learning on the subject, it's one of those subjects that I switch off on when it goes into this much detail. Reminds me of school and the lessons I didn't understand.
I think for me, I need small amounts of information at a time.. or I can feel overloaded. However, I value the product you make and the attention to detail. Excellence is something that I'm always inspired by. All the best. James.
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I love this channel, I always pick up something. Funny how he stares back at the camera every so often! Hilarious!
A Master Class in speaker placement or a fishing story. :-) Seriously, you guys make awesome speakers and thank you for your advise.
Dynaudio speakers are the best!
i still dig the 48 yr old ALTEC A-500s i bought inj 72,,,they amp any music source!~ ,, even a transistor radio i saw the technician hook up to his A-500 components which he ordered to build his own cabinets ,,,they were equal to ALTEC Barcelonas when he finished em which were $1400.00 a pair in 1975. We had a wall of speakers for demos and you could try em am all , except for Klipsh which we did not carry and JBL was ok. Aand M records in Cali had four A-500s in their studio. I remember their albums were always crystal clear especially "THE CAPENTERS"
The realworld examples were really helpful.
Great to hear!
Two things can make it brake a surround sound system. The center channel, which is playing 100%of the time and your subwoofer. I personally like ceiling flush mount speakers. I have all 5 channels in ceiling. All are 6.5 inch Proficient highest level speakers. Front two and center channel are mounted internally at a angle towards seating, instead of aiming straight down. These speakers have a decent wide cone of sound, which allows for more seating. Subwoofers are the tricky subject. Subwoofers use the volume of your room as part of the enclosure. Different size subwoofers will pick up different frequencies. Small subs give that punchy sound such as gun shots, but don't do as well with deep explosion sounds typically. Larger subs suffer with the quick punchy sounds many times. The subwoofer enclosure design can help with it's performance. Then there's down firing, front firing and back firing. From my experience in home and car audio, the more base reflects the better. I have two subwoofers. One is a 10 inch down fire with forward port which is located in the front left corner of my room and is only about 10 inches from both walls. The other is a 10 inch rear firing speaker and port that's located in the back right corner. I have no dead spots of my room. There are always ways to prevent dead spots so that you may sit almost anywhere. Just takes the right speakers and configuration. Also many receivers have the calibration modes that uses a microphone that comes with it which helps calibration of the speakers frequencies to allow for more seating spots. Movie theaters use multiple speakers and sound dampening materials to make most of the room equally good in sound.
Dynaudio rocks and also this series. Thank you for creating such amazing speakers and also the ask the expert. Really useful. I have a Xeo 30 set and made all the difference to change the placement. I have now 2 placements with marks on the floor so I don't miss it. One for normal use and more close to the wall, so that my family does not fall on the speaker and another when I am alone in the perfect position. Both work well and the 8:5 rule and the 1/5 really works for me.
Thanks so much, Nuno. We really appreciate it. And it's great that you found some tips in the video that you could use at home; that's what it's all about for us 👏 //Christopher.
Great Video, thank you Dynaudio !
I think I understand why he looks at the viewer, I think he is looking into the camera (at us) to include us in the discussion as if we are there in the room with them.
Much the same way virtually every news/sports caster looks into the camera.
You´re completely right, Jim. 😃 That is how it works on that side of the screen! Cheers, Viktorija
Sure, but he is being creepy.
Excellent. Thanks so much!!
jajajajaja, I complete agree with you guys, I think he has a mirror un front and he likes his hair style... Seriously, its a good video and defines very well sound stage and the answer to such a simple and common question. Thanks for your work.
haha 😆 I do like my hair style. But, it doesn't reflect in the lens unfortunately. And to be honest. I wasn't having the best hair day when we filmed this one... Glad you liked the content, Isaac. That's what matters most to us! //Christopher.
Wow, that was some valuable information , Thank you so much for taking your effort and making a video like this.
This video is awesome, even the creepy look.
Good stuff.
I've also used "Get Lucky" to check my speakers. My son sent me the 88.2 studio masters of Random Access Memories. Great recordings.
Fantastic choice. 😎 I am never getting tired of listening to Daft Punk.
A good choice, as it was one of the first modern pop records mixed with dynamic range, even before Spotify and streaming services helped mitigate the loudness wars. Mick Gazauski is a beast mix engineer, but the secret sauce is headroom for that glorious low end.
great educational piece, thanks for the tips
Very good video I gained a lot from this and did the 1/5th as best I can in my small room perservered today and it now sounds great Thank you for info
What is 1/5th in measurements , sorry I not understand can simple it to me by inches or mm ! Tq
Thanks. It refreshed my memory of the past lesson of similar. Thumbs up
If you have the room your speakers should be placed in two corners opposite each other with them slightly turned inward, or 2 speakers in a single corner projecting outward at an angle that is toward the interior of the house. Try to pick corners furthest away from windows. The will cause the sound signal to bounce of all the walls and reduce any chance of having your signals get "out of phase". Subs, place 10-16" (depending on size) away from the wall between - halfway between - the corner speakers turning the driver backwards facing the wall. If 2 subs, have them face the side walls behind the speakers one in each corner again the distance recommended (you may need to play with the ditance a little bit but doing this again will make sure your sub(s) don't get out of phase signals reducing the subs effectiveness. Use your ears, no need to go get crazy with a microphone. If you need a mic, then you don't have trained ears and won't notice the difference anyway). You will be surprised how much better your stereo system and speakers sound. Placing your speakers flat against a wall saves space, but is just about the worse place to locate speakers. It's doubtful you will need to make any "time" adjustment, but possible with a single sub in the middle could be just slightly ahead of the corners speakers and a 1 or 2 millisecond reduction will make everything fit tight and sound great. Not trying to step on anyone's toes here, but there are just too many goofy "ifs" and "thats" videos out there about speaker placement, and this is the simple truth for any room.
Hei. Har ei L forma stova. Detta er det heilt klart utfordringar med å få best mulig lyd i sveet spott. Kan du hjelpe med å forklare hva eg burde gjere?
This is the most real talk on this subject that I have seen on You Tube so far. There's so many nut job audiophools around here giving ridiculous, make believe advice that is completely unfounded. As an added bonus they dress their theories up with their stupid audiophool terminology nonsense.
Christopher, you are a good sport!
I've found *in my room* the distance from the back wall is best calculated using Pythagoras' Golden Section. So, from the wall behind the speaker to the front of the speaker, is 0.618. The distance from the front of the speaker to the listening position represents 1. The total is 1.618
Incredible level of well articulated info here! you got a new subscriber!
Thanks 😌 We're happy to have you! Did you catch our latest Ask the Expert on stands? //Christopher.
Very informative!
I lolled every time the guy on the left looked to the camera. anyways, great video. thanks for the well explained info that I certainly learned from. good stuff. thumbs up.
Great content.
I haven't tried it yet but you talking about specific tracks for bass listening immediately called "Longview" by Green Day to mind. Strong walking bass line with a good variety and easy to focus on. I would also think "Beastly" by Vulfpeck... or a lot of Vulf songs, Joe Dart is the MAN! I'm watching this before setting up my stereo in a different challenging room and had already planned on breaking in my new copy of Vulf Vault 001: Best of Antwaun Stanley once it's set up :)
Great info, cheers!
PS- Christopher stop staring into my soul 😂
It would ne nice if u guys talked about how using 3 or more subs virtually fixes all the bass problems in the room.
Great video. Very helpful for me as I am presently experimenting with speaker placement. The song recommendations for bass, kids, and highs are very helpful tip
Amazing! Thanks a million, Roland. In my quite difficult listening room, I have used the track from Norah Jones (40:15) proposed by Roland (Almost everything on this recording is dead center). A few centimeters less distance between the loudspeakers, a little bit of toeing-in AND THERE WE GO! Dead on center. Jennifer Warnes' Bird on a wire as well sounds terrific now.
amazing learned so much! tks a lot keep this videos happening pls!
Happy to hear so, Marcelo! 😌 //Christopher.
Great advice
Very interesting! Ihave this "lost bass" problem! The best sound is often when i stand on the coffee table 😅. I suppose the sound coming from speakers to ceiling to sofa crashes with the sound coming straight from the speakers??!! I have a wide room about 7meters wide and 5 deep!
what about distance from celling and floor?
Good question, 1/5th i would guess. I got lucky, my stands put the center of the speakers (just above the woofer and below the tweeter) 3 feet from the floor, my ceiling is 15' feet high, and my listening ear height is 3 feet.
For me Im enjoying a lot having my speakers to the right and left of me facing the direction Im facing. I think because in a lot of music we are going on a journey with the artist particullarly piano music.
Look out !!!!! Get down !!!! Get to the choppa lmao . PS great info guys thank you 😊
Can I put Bookshelf Speakers on there sides? Any help much appreciated
At Dynaudio our speakers are THIS wide and THIS deep ! Our presenter would have absolutely no problem communicating with Italians ;)
Relevant! Thanks!
great video