Bad Vibrations | Paul Sellers
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- In this video, Paul explains why vibration is something you should try to avoid and then runs through reducing vibration while using each of a handful of common hand tools.
Do you think about vibration when you are woodworking? If not, you probably should.
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I’m 70 years of age and have recently retired and have decided to build bits of furniture out of wood.The last time I had a plane in my hands I was 15 years old.Your U-Tube lessons have given me the confidence to buy and fettle 4 Stanley planes and an assortment of woodworking tools and I am now building my first ever bench.God bless you a Sir,you have given an old man a reason to get off the sofa.
Hey Paul please read this one !, I tried using planes when I was much younger and never got on with them. Simply put I think I lacked the concentration required to pay attention the way you do with the wood and plane. Sadly my grandad passed way recently and I have some of his tools, including a couple of planes. After watching you make your bench and this video I developed adoration for how you use a plane.
I have just finished squaring up some wood for the first time with amazingly accurate results😆 thank you Paul - keep doing the videos 👍
Same is my story as yours, my grandfather too left behind many tools which inspired me. My grandfather passed some where in 1950s i am now 48 and still using some of the tools that he left behind.
Mr. Sellers took a complex problem and gave us a toolbox to deal with it in this video. I feel it will be simple to extrapolate these ideas. Thank you, sir.
So, I've taken up this woodworking interest rather recently, and RUclips's been my primary source of information. I've gravitated to a small handful of "teachers," and among that group Paul really stands out. He seems to bring it all to the level of "philosophy" - it's almost like listening to an Alan Watts lecture. :-)
Thanks you Mr. Sellers, Yes, I lubricate everything. I've drilled a hole in the bottom of my hammer handle, and packed it with bees wax, for nails, and use either softened soap or bees wax for driving screws. However, I never thought about sawblades, many thanks for the tip, I will be doing that from now on. Many thanks for this, and all of your videos. You are an excellent teacher, a complete natural.
You sir are a great teacher ,someone who shares his knowlegde build up by experience is a gifted person ,youve inspired me in many ways for the last year .Llving in a fourthfloor appartment I found a way to use as less electrictools as possible .Love it ,and got me some old handtools left . greets from Amsterdam
I tried the rag with oil, it works like a dream! Thanks Paul!
Paul is the best! I am one who abandonded the spoke shave but as always I will heed his lessons and apply them to success. He not only shows us how to work, he teaches us how to think through problems. Thanks Mr. Sellers.
Paul, thank you for your knowledge and expertise from your experience. I enjoy so much watching and listening to you, keep up the great work. I wish my tutor 25 years ago was like yourself.👍👍👍
my kind of a teacher , I like your explanation .👍 thanks .
He is the best, the greatest teacher. Thank your very much !
Very useful for a newbie like myself, its these sort of tricks I don’t have a clue about.
Mr Paul you have just said everything that I was thinking!You also just confirmed how important a vise is.I have been trying to use my #4 plane with out a good solid vise.You make it look so easy with your skills.Thanks Paul
Thank you Paul. I can't wait to rematch this video with my dad. I appreciate how generous you are to us with your knowledge.
Your videos are always filled with the joy you have in your life working with wood. Thank you for taking the time to help us gain the enjoyment of work with wood by using the tools to gain the best finish work. We may not have your level of skill with the tools but your videos get us to a point that is far better then ever before. Thank you again for helping us learn that anyone can work with wood that is willing to learn how to use the right tools for the task.
Of all your videos, I think this one gave the highest density of useful information yet. Fantastic Paul, thanks.
Paul,
Thanks for your explanation. I have experienced all those you talked about and I often thought those were just down to my lack of experience and skill. So it is almost a relief to me that vibrations happen to everyone, and you demonstrated how to cope with these brilliantly. Vibrations are the energies wasted (as always in life), and if I can summarise my take from your video: mininise friction resistance to your tool, and minimise movements of the material you are working with.
Really appreciate your teaching.
This also happens when there are opposing grain and crotch in the wood. Thanks for your calm clear explanation as no one talks about things we who have no mentors but watch RUclips and efficient entertaining videos. Yours are that way because it's you. Thanks and Happy Birthday!
Paul, this video is incredibly helpful! I am brand new to woodworking, just bought and restored my first plane and started to test it only to find frustration. Well, I know my plane is set properly and blade is sharp, but my lack of a good solid bench and work holding is quite inadequate. The sound and chatter is that of extreme vibration. This explanation has renewed my resolve, as it was wavering. Thank you!
Such a useful explanation, thank you very much!
Thank you for yet another great video. I’m an amateur and starting to build my own bench. I’ve debated back and forth about a Leg Vise ( with expensive hardware) but opted for a cast iron vise for simplicity . All the experts go on about racking and the limitations of a metal vise, but your video will help me work around those problems. I may make a ‘mobile’ shoulder or Moxon Vise later, but I need a bench first!
Your peaceful philosophy really helps motivate me to take up woodworking as a perfect hobby and relaxing pastime, although if I buy any more tools I might be in trouble. I’m sure you’ve met my type who buy all the tools but don’t end up making anything! I aim to change that. Thanks again
This was an excellent reminder to stay focused and think about what you are doing and be conscious of everything that's happening, when you're doing it.
I must remember to remind my own students about this ;)
Excellent topic to tackle. I have often been plagued with bad vibrations.
Your shared knowledge and skill is something that feeds family's and betters lives, a true hero in my eyes and youtubes best shop teacher there is.. Thanks for all your time invested in us. Much appreciation from Texas
I wonder about the mentality of those who give thumbs down to obviously exellent videos. It’s the one thing I don’t bother with when choosing a video. However I often find the comments helpful even if they are negative. With Paul’s videos I find there is very little to add, so I just watch the video. I am an old hand, but usually pick up something new, besides just enjoying the lecture.
Wow! I could hardly believe what a difference the oil makes! The plane just glides over the wood now (:
Thanks for making this craft so accessible. It’s been satisfying and peaceful already.
I love watching a true master work. Keep these wonderful videos a coming.
Thank you for taking the time to help us as we learn.you do a excellent job every time .I have learned a lot from your videos thanks again
I really enjoyed this video and you approach in general. there was mix of "aha" and already somehow intuitively apply a technique. I am quite new to chisel and plane work and can really use these tips to increase the quality and enjoyment of woodworking.
Good topic today. Resin does indeed increase friction. It is why gymnasts use it for a better hold on the uneven parallel bars and why violin players use it on their bows. You've presented some really good insights into wood and bench dynamics - compression vs tension in holding. Nice!
I know most of what you teach but I've enjoyed listening to you for a couple years now. :)
Thank you Paul for a great video i used to use oil on a rag which was messy and a fire hazard i have been using your rag in a can for the last year or so and it is the best way to lightly oil tools Thanks again David
I love the message here.
Your teaching method reminds me of my Woodworking teacher. Thanks for the memories.
That was the best shop tips i ever heard. Thank you.
Thank you Paul for the very informative video. You have shown me some additional techniques for hand work that I just never took the time to think about. Many hands may make for light work, but many minds make for efficient and enjoyable work.
I follow you from Egypt. I always enjoy watching your videos and I learned a lot from them.
Thank you
ow someone from egypt have a taste of watching like me .👍
indeed he is one of the best . 😊
welcome to the party mr .😊
Very interesting video, thank you very much!
I'm sold on Paul Sellers!
great hints Paul
Here I was thinking vibrations indicating my plane is not sharp enough- now I have several new elements to consider...
Well, thanks.
Thank you Paul. It is always a pleasure to see one of your videos.
Good lessons on familiarizing yourself with the behavior of tools and materials. I paint in oils and knowing the properties and behavior of all the pigments, mediums, brushes, knives, and supports makes for a much better experience and product. You're a master instructor, thanks.
Excelente tutorial e aprendido mucho me servirán sus enseñanzas. Gracias maestro
Graias Paul Buena Explicación como siempre Saludos !!
As ever, another excellent video from a craftsman. A pleasure to watch. Best wishes
Great stuff, very instructive! I will bear this in mind always now as I work. Many thanks!
Great lesson and discussion Paul. Thank you.
I don't know if it's the cinematography or what, but I find the pine boards Paul uses, even the scrap, complete beautiful
As always, another great lesson/ video. Thank you Mr.Sellers.
Thank you Paul for yet another wonderful video.
I'd love to see a long video on wood movement and techniques to mitigate it.
Hi Paul, I’m a beginner in woodworking and the other day I have seen a video about a bar clamps made with wedges (by Izzy Swan if I remember well). And I thought that it might be a good idea for a video. Thanks for your videos, they are very useful ! (sorry for my English I’m Belgian)
I would add a couple of words related to the vibrations: Resonance and a Drum. When the part stick-out from the vise is changed, its resonant frequency changes. When you hit the drum at different locations, the sound varies. Close to the solid (relatively speaking) edge, you don’t get the BOOM sound anymore.
Nice job Paul. Nice job adding the bees wax as an alternate to your oil in a can. I'm sure most of your viewers have, regrettably, not made your oil in a can. I've been using paste finishing wax until I finally put oil and a rag into a can.
Great explanation, you are a true teacher
Excellent video Mr sellers. Thank you!
Hi Paul we owe it to others to pass on our skills and our knowledge.
Pete
Absolutely brilliant Paul, thank you! Will be making meself a oil cloth tin...
I see another thing that likely reduces vibration - the position of the vise and construction of the bench. I believe the central location of the vise results in greater stability than if the vise were located on the end of the bench (to the right from the viewer's aspect). This would be especially so if the bench is unstable or too light.
That is not really going to work. It makes the whole weight more even, but will increase the unsupported weight in the center of the bench given you more more vibration in the end. Working and having the weight over the legs is the best way to reduce vibration. To get what you describe is best done with a 2 vise set up. Face inside one leg, and the tail vise outboard the other.
Very useful.
Thanks.
Great video. Just like machine shop work, setup is everything.
I have to make one of those rag in a can deals....So useful.... Anyone else amazed but that last saw. I've never had one cut that well... put then it is probably not sharp as it needs to be. Guess I need to read up on that. Would love to have my grandfathers old saw working that well.
Great tips! Thanks, Paul!
The real takeaway from this video is to have a good bench and vice. I did build Paul’s bench a few years ago and you will love it and feel the difference.
Thank you Paul, I love your explainers! Always look forward to them.
Thank you so much for all your videos! They are awesome!!! What kind of oil do you use for oiling your plane? Thank you in advance!
Thank you Paul excellent video very knowledgeable, I am halfway through the cabinet getting there slowly but surely it's a real joy to work thank you again... (why anyone would give it a Thumbs Down ).
Very useful... thank you
Finally the new video is came out.. Im waiting everyday for this 😊 anyways please Mr. Paul make a series again for building a desk and the chair or maybe small cabinet with drawers of dovetails 🙏
BAD, BAD, BAD...BAD VIBRATIONS!
do-o, ap-ap... do-o, ap-ap...
Thanks Paul. Great Tutorial.
Great video, thanks :) I use my PSRIACO (Paul Sellers Rag-in-a-can-Oiler - great tool) on metal planes but I use a candle (paraffin-wax) - per the "English Woodworker" (Richard Maguire) - on my wooden planes. In my experience beeswax tends to give a tacky finish where paraffin-wax tends to slip/lubricate more. Wax furniture polish, as shown, may work better than solid beeswax, as it usually contains turpentine and/or linseed oil. [I use hot candle wax to lube my bike chains - it is incredibly clean, self-cleaning even, and one dunk lasts about a year! :) ]
Thanks for showing how & sharing that
such great content! you gave me a whole new way approach the wood. simple and effective solutions Thank you
got the impression you were talking to an audience behind the camera as you were rarely looking straight into the camera. had a strange feeling to it. didn't notice this in older videos, though.
thanks for your inspiration in any case.
So, in some parts of life we get "Good Vibrations" (Beach Boys), and in other parts like woodworking, we get bad vibrations. It's all about balance, the positive and negative. So, do I play the Beach Boys when I'm woodworking? LOL
Thanks for sharing these tips with us Paul. I am still a beginner, and have noticed these vibrations, but thought it was just "par for the course", something I had to deal with. Now I know the steps to take to try and combat these vibrations and in turn, get more "bang for my buck" with each stroke or mallet blow. I gotta say, you teach me more about my hobby than many of my professors at University do about the subject of my courses.
Thanks
Excellent.
So I start my day with a Paul interlude of zen. Not too many things could be finer than that.
Thanks Paul. I have been having trouble for weeks with an inherited #5 Craftsman plane, age unknown but no SCREW adjust to the frog so it is a little hard to adjust. My WoodRiver #5 makes full width shaving effortlessly. Both are razor sharp. Difference is I used Nu Finish car polish on the Wood River in an effort to combat rust. I will try wax tonight on the Sears Craftsman. All I am doing is trying to make shavings as thin as possible, no heavy cuts.
I had conversation with Mr Hock and my chip breaker can be replaced, but the adjustment yoke is too short to use on a thicker blade. Every Craftsman product has something defective with the design. With the internet, I have a better selection of tools.
I have never understood the need for changing an iron in a plane to a thicker one. I understand what people say is the difference but I see only that it takes loner to sharpen for little if any reward.
tried the wax on the old craftsman and it works so well a child could use it. Then I tried it on the Wood River ,which already had some car finish on it and it improved more. They are now equal.
My product was Gulf Wax from the grocery store. Instructions say ok for candle making, canning, and a few other uses. $1.00 worth will last you and all your friends a lifetime.
Good tips
Thanks Paul!
Great advice. Thanks.
I think you will find a lot less vibration with the glass test if you use a pint of ale. %-) No, seriously Paul, I've loved your videos for years! Thanks.
Brilliant!
i m always impress how fast your saw cut
It is either an 8 or 7tpi rip fully sharpened, set and tuned. Like a plane, setting a saw up, I mean really setting it up right, the first time takes some effort but when it is done you get cutting speeds like Paul.
Yeah I was very surprised when I took my factory-new Veritas saw and sharpened it. It cut quite good before, but just a lick with a saw file and a very fine diamond flat file on the back of the teeth improved it quite a lot... there is a reason Paul recommends this sharpening method: It really works.
Michel Jauvin S
Thankyou, makes so much sense.
Thanks Paul. I've learned more in this one video than in a hundred other videos with other so called experts. Plenty of tips that I can put to use to combat the vibration issues I have fought against that I should now be able to deal with better. Just one question: Your 'oil-in-a-can'. Can you please expand on what it is? Thanks!
ruclips.net/video/npKo1y2e8RI/видео.html
Penster Paul made a video about it ruclips.net/video/npKo1y2e8RI/видео.html
Thank you so much for these valuable information
Thankyou.
Thanks Paul. Helpful.
reporting in for "undulation," and not disappointed
I'm going to have the beach boys stuck in my head all day now 😂
There should really be a band called The Bench Boys singing Bad vibrations...
Dai Prout I was thinking exactly the same.
@@markharris5771 I'm going to pull the LP out when I get home and give it a spin :-)
And the chorus would be "we're lookin' for no vibrations."
Dai Prout
Thanks everyone, now as I watch the rest of Paul's presentation I'm humming along to The Beach Boys! Guess we are showing our age.
So much knowledge that you can get only by using hand tools
Thanks Paul!!!
Nice video, Mr Sellers.
You explained it very well.
I have problems with my spokeshave (round sole) because it rattles during use (strong vibrations). I already sharpened the planer, oiled the sole (also with the oil can as you have it). The planer still vibes.
Could they possibly make a video of it.
Wish a nice weekend.
Greetings from Germany.
I will look at it. They can be hard to use but often a flat bottomed one will do an inside cove radius op to 20cm
I had a lot of problems with the cheap cast-iron spokeshaves (you probably know the ones - painted dark green and red), especially with the round soled ones. I think these cheaper spokeshaves will require a lot of work on both the blade and the sole before they would work properly, the soles of mine were very roughly ground, ditto for the blade.
That being said, even with better quality spokeshaves the round soled ones give me trouble on straight edges. I think they just aren't well suited to that. Try making your edge as round as it goes with a straight soled spokeshave and switch to the round sole spokeshave only when the others don't cut it any more. Far less problems, at least for me.
Also the "more classic" bevel-up spokeshaves work much better for me, both with wooden and with metal bodies. Veritas makes one with a cast Aluminium body. Very good spokeshave, expensive though. The wooden ones pop up in decent-ish shape from time to time on flea markets and such things.
Controlli che il controferro che blocca la lama sia vicino al filo lama.Ne ho due di spokeshave a suola tonda e uno mi da il suo stesso problema.Comprato usato non so se tutti i pezzi siano originali.Saluti dall' Italia
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I had a lot of problems with the cheap cast-iron spokeshaves (you probably know the ones - painted dark green and red), especially with the round soled ones. I think these cheaper spokeshaves will require a lot of work on both the blade and the sole before they would work properly, the soles of mine were very roughly ground, ditto for the blade.
That being said, even with better quality spokeshaves the round soled ones give me trouble on straight edges. I think they just aren't well suited to that. Try making your edge as round as it goes with a straight soled spokeshave and switch to the round sole spokeshave only when the others don't cut it any more. Far less problems, at least for me.
Also the "more classic" bevel-up spokeshaves work much better for me, both with wooden and with metal bodies. Veritas makes one with a cast Aluminium body. Very good spokeshave, expensive though. The wooden ones pop up in decent-ish shape from time to time on flea markets and such things.
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Thanks for the answer.
I think it is due to the spokeshave twisting in your hands. It’s a difficult tool to use. It only works if you do everything; good tool, sharp blade at correct angle, well clamped, oiled sole, firm grip, correct action, correct grain direction, decent wood, and most of all minimum blade depth.
Oh my, a new Paul Sellers video :D
The Zen of woodworking.
Yes end grain vibration my bane and an out right defiance of my planes. Another problem I struggle with is holding my work. I can watch you here and your master class, but I still find myself almost reaching for a hammer and nail just to say I won.
Fabulous video
Thanks for sharing 👌🏻
one more very good Thanks Paul
brilliant - mind blown!
Thank you
Hello from Mexico to all the team... I was wondering if you were still interested in getting the subtitles right to the best accuracy in spanish (just read in one of your early videos of the first workbench asking for help with that])... at least mexican spanish, because most of it is ok, but sometimes, particularly with the tools and technical stuff they get a little off... for instance: it translates plane as "avion", which is an airplane, here the plane is called "cepillo" (translates literally as "brush") or "garlopa" is another name for the plane... I guess this is my way of asking for your permission to make transcriptions of the videos and translating them the best I can... and send you those translations to correct the auto translate mistakes, could that work? I don't really know how youtube works. Anyway... thank you for sharing the knowledge. I am learning, I am truly learning, and for that I am deeply thankful. You got a big fan on this side of the world, Mr. Sellers.
Hola! Podés traducir directamente en el video, yo hice uno de Paul. Tenés que hacer click en los "..." debajo del video a la derecha, y dice "Añadir traducción". Te llevará a otra página que te permite no sólo traducir sino sincronizar el texto con el video. Saludos desde Argentina! :)