Join host Pete Pardo of Sea of Tranquility and his special guest Chris Alo as they discuss the career & music of the mighty heavy metal legends, Black Sabbath.
Eternal Idol, Headless Cross, and Tyr are without question the best Sabbath albums post Dio. All absolute classics and Tony Martin's voice rocks big time.
I agree with you big time! I love all three albums big time, especially The Headless Cross. The Headless Cross is one of my all time favorite albums. It is a Masterpiece to me.
The guy who ran IRS Records was Miles Copeland, Stewart’s brother, who also managed The Police. Otherwise, phenomenal retrospective, guys! I especially liked the fact that you gave Ray Gillen some props and Tony Martin the respect he deserves as a part of Sabbath history. They made some really great metal with Martin, which only gets overlooked because it was called Black Sabbath and didn’t have Ozzy or Dio. Imagine if Headless Cross or Tyr just happened to be four unknown dudes. People would have been poopin’ their kulats!
The Born Again album is one of the best and most under rated Sabbath albums of all time. Tony's riffs are evil on it and Ian's screams are insane , the album is the perfect fit for the time. We loved it so much we named our band Digital Bitch!🤘 Sabbath rules!!!
Sharon and Ozzy took Tony to court to stop him using the Sabbath name. So wrong of them to do that to Tony, I'm amazed he even spoke to them ever again after that, let alone play and record with Ozzy again. Dio said that he didn't care if they weren't allowed to use the name because it everyone knew they were Black Sabbath. Ozzy should be ashamed of doing that, Dio was so many leagues above him as a singer and musician. Thanks for the video guys, always a pleasure. Cheers from the UK. Ronnie
In '02 I saw Purple and I was surprised they did Child In Time, which they hadn't played since '95. Joe Eliott was in the audience and Ian nailed the high screams! It was so emotional that I had tears in my eyes, and as soon as the song finished everbody was on their feet giving giving Ian a standing ovation, it was a truly wonderful performance from Gillan. I'll never forget it.
Black Sabbath are my all time favorite band. Born Again is a great album. Love the Gillan era and wish it lasted longer. The stories alone from the era are the stuff of legend. I'll always wish the Dio and Gillan era's were longer than they were. Both were great in Sabbath and I've always felt one or the other should've been in the band long term.
I hate to get into semantics, but technically they've released three studio albums since LOL Four if you count The Devil You Know (I do) and it sounds very modern.
@markrago I believe the OP was talking about the production, the direction of music, lyrical content, imagery, etc. Not necessarily about the production cause yes 13 sounds more "modern" but thats not his point.
I have been a huge Black Sabbath fan for over thirty years, and not until two years ago I only listened to the Ozzy and Dio eras only. I finally two years ago gave the rest of the eras a chance and I regret not doing it a long time ago. I love The Seventh Star, Born Again, The Eternal Idol, The Headless Cross, and TYR alot. Those albums in my opinion are amazing Black Sabbath albums, especially The Eternal Idol, The Headless Cross, Born Again, and The Seventh Star. Ian Gilian, Glenn Hughes, Ray Gillen, and especially Tony Martin did an amazing job singing for Black Sabbath. The Headless Cross should have been a huge seller. It does not have one weak song on it. TYR and The Eternal Idol are also very strong albums. I do love Cross Purposes and Dehumanizer alot also. Tony Iommi is definitely by far the most important member of Black Sabbath ever. Most would have given up after being the last original member left, but Tony Iommi kept going forward.
Love the extended comments on Born Again. Fantastic album, super heavy and badass, and criminally maligned. Was waiting for the typical "here is this clunker of an album" but you guys really get it about Born Again and I salute you. And The Fallen? Woww, as heavy as anything on Born Again. Great song!
Every time Dio put life back into the band, Ozzy finds away to steal the thunder. The Dio stuff will always be my favorite. Heaven and Hell is one of the best albums for both Dio and Sabbath.
I agree with you that The Headless Cross is the best Tony Martin era album. The Headless Cross is even in my top five favorite Black Sabbath albums ever. I do also really love The Eternal Idol and TYR alot also. The Tony Martin era is extremely underrated big time. I hope to one day see albums like The Headless Cross , TYR, Cross Purposes, and even Forbidden have deluxe editions with unreleased live and studio songs and remastered for much better sound.
I saw Sabbath in 2000 at The Astoria in London, a relatively small venue. When the band kicked into the riff to ‘Sabbath Bloody Sabbath’ I got goosebumps. It was immense. A brilliant show, I’m so pleased I saw them with the classic line up.
Great video I've been checking out one of my all time favorite bands again with the recent release of anno domini 1989 to 1995 and your channel came up in my feed I'm glad people agree with me that the heaven and hell album is a Dio Black Sabbath album
'Great 2 part video boys. laughed when reading the sabbath book symptom of the universe when as Gillan sort of squatted down to read the lyrics, someone from the audience said 'Ronnie, Ronnie's back' :) gold
Thank you guys, this was fantastic, I've always been a big Sabbath fan but never got interested in much beyond Sabotage. Sabotage and MOR are still my go-to's for any day of the week, and now your incredible enthusiasm and knowledge have really inspired me to explore the entire catalogue.
I'm creeping up on 50 years old and grew up on Sabbath. My sisters were both considerably older than me, so I had access to all their records from a very early age. By the time Ozzy was fired, and the Dio era started......I was a big fan and collected all the 80s/90s Sabbath iterations. As well as all the Ozzy years. I have to say, I find myself listening to post Ozzy Sabbath more than anything.
GREAT 2-part video, guys!! You are both great together, and I am so jealous of Chris who has interviewed *the* greatest metal legends ever. (He's cute, by the way; he reminds me of a sober Chris Farley!!) Now, did I hear correctly that you're going to do a History of April Wine?? OMG PLEASE DO THAT!! April Wine is one of my all-time favorite bands!! ❤️
I was so happy when the Reunion live album came out back in the late 90's. There was a live album Live At Last that was from the 70's but the sound quality was not good. Finally Black Sabbath had a live album that sounded phenomenal with Ozzy and the setlist was incredible. I still listen to it very often. I also got their most recent live album The End which is also a great live album with a great setlist also, but Ozzy's singing was not as strong as it was on the Reunion album and Bill Ward is also not on it and it is noticeable because his drumming style is very unique and powerful.
The albums Born Again all the way up to Cross Purposes are extremely underrated and most Black Sabbath fans don't like them or have not listened to them because Ozzy and Ronnie James Dio are not the lead singers on them accept for Dehumanizer. Albums like The Seventh Star, Born Again, The Eternal Idol, The Headless Cross, TYR, Dehumanizer, and Cross Purposes are Phenomenal albums. I hope one day really soon that albums like The Headless Cross, TYR, Cross Purposes, and even Forbidden get the deluxe edition treatment like most of the previous albums. I would love to hear unreleased live songs and studio songs on those deluxe editions and to be remastered for a much better sound. This history of Black Sabbath was so amazing to watch. I watched all three parts back to back and really enjoyed it big time. You two have awesome chemistry and you can tell that you guys had a ton of fun doing this too. Thanks again for doing this.
You guys are great and knowledgeable so glad I found your channel. I never even heard born again and I've been listening to it yes it's very muddy my first impressions of it aren't very good maybe it's a grower.
the eternal idol is such a great album,i`m glad there is a deluxe version with Ray & Tony Martin singing,the tony martin era of sabbath is great i feel some of the albums are better than some of the ozzy stuff
I saw BLACK SABBATH with Ronnie and Vinny in 2008 on the Metal Masters Tour (Nikon Jones Beach Theater in NY) and it was probably the greatest show I've ever seen. I wish I could experience it again, or I wish I had seen some more shows when they were touring with Ronnie and Vinny.
I'm a little late to the party here but this Retrospective/ History is awesome. In depth facts and a little anecdotal, this made for an entertaining watch. Have you ever considered doing videos about the re-releases from any given band? I ask because you showed several of the 2 disc re-issues and was wondering what the second disc offers. Would you consider talking in depth about the bonus tracks, and different versions on those discs?
Great video, great channel. The issue with 13 for me, is that it doesn't sound influenced by anything other than themselves...and by themselves I mean Master Of Reality.
I agree with you when you said the Seventh Star album features one of Glenn's heaviest vocal performances. He's never sounded heavier anywhere else in his career. He's mostly done funk and soul sorts of songs in most of his earlier solo work, but with Seventh Star, goddamn, Glenn's performance was such a heavy surprise. What an album. I am absolutely in love with it! My favourite Sabbath album of all time! And of course, Tony Martin's period in Sabbath was almost as great! 2nd favourite Sabbath singer after Glenn Hughes. Dio is just after Tony Martin.
I saw them twice in Dehumanizer tour. I bootlegged that gig on cassette... I probably have it somewhere but those gigs are on youtube... My first Sabbath gig was with Tony Martin and I think it was Vinnie on drums... Cross Purpose tour. 13 tour was the last time I saw them... 13 if it was jot produced by Rick Rubin, it would have been a different beast... love that album.
I never quite bought the theory that Gillan ruined his voice on the Sabbath tour.....I think it was a combo of Giilan (band), Sabbath and the Purple reunion tour (1984/85). With that being said, he sounded good on the two Deep Purple shows I witnessed in 1987.
Damn. Some of this discussion means you're younger than me. I thought you were older. My career shifted me from concentrating on releases--of music as well as on science fiction literature-toward the anthro/geo/environmental professions I ended up with.
And on the Cross Purposes tour, there were a few shows in South America where Bill Ward joined Tony and Geezer onstage. It was literally a reunion without Ozzy.
16:20 you guys mentioned David Donato and Bill coming back but only doing a photo shoot, but check out the song "No Way Out" they demoed with Sabbath at that time, which eventually became "The Shining" a few years later. Also, at 11:18 you talk about the Stonehenge set being spoofed in Spinal Tap, but check out the 20-minute short "Spinal Tap: The Final Tour," which went into production in 1981-2, predating Born Again and the full-length version of the movie by a couple of years. That bit is in there, so it was in the movie while Ronnie was still in the band.
I'm familiar with all the albums up to 7th Star and I agree with most of the reviews except 7th Star and Never Say Die cause Never Say Die is such an interesting albums with great songs, weird atmospherics and lots of experimentation, so different from any other album and has a lot of feel, some people have said is like a prog album.. on the other hand 7th star let's get real it's standard 80's hard rock done with great musicians but no feel or amazing songwriting. Watching this video made me wanna listen to the rest of the albums, so thanks guys
Another thing from the Dehumanizer demo period was that one of the tracks rehearsed but not released became the basis of "Raising Hell" off Tony Martin's Scream album. Cozy gave Tony the drum tracks. Before Vinny joined again, and after Cozy's injury, Ronnie wanted Simon Wright as drummer, as he'd enjoyed working with him in Dio. Geezer and Tony vetoed this, so Vinny came back.
love headless cross. Eternal Idol is good as is Tyr. Only time i saw sabbath was on the Headless Cross tour with Ian Gillan jumping in for an encore of smoke on the water, which was the charity single from Rock Aid for Armenia at the time. Great show, even did Neon Knights.
In the UK I believe Born Again was Sabbath's highest chart placing since Sabotage, at number four I think. The mix is bad (and Iommi says that can't find the master tapes in order to remix it) but I loved it when it was released and Ian's vocals are fantastic.
Yeah I agree , the mix was terrible , to much bass sounding. Even the remastered one with the live version along with the studio one isn't any better. But I still love this album , Hotline is one of the sickest song's on the album IMO!
Your history of the born again album cover us a bit off. “The one of the baby was actually the front cover of a 1968 magazine called Mind Alive. I took some black and white photocopies of the image that I overexposed, stuck the horns, nails, fangs into the equation, used the most outrageous colour combination that acid could buy, bastardised a bit of the Olde English typeface and sat back, shook my head and chuckled.”
Interesting fact, Bill Ward filled in live in 1994 on the Cross Purposes tour for some South American shows while Geezer was still in the band. So essentially, it was the original lineup of Black Sabbath with Tony Martin on vocals instead of Ozzy. You can watch the live footage on youtube from Chile, Argentina and Brazil with Geezer on bass and Bill Ward filling in on drums. Sabbath also released a live album for the Cross Purposes tour.
They did Ozzfest in 97' in the States too with Ozzy doing a Black Sabbath set(without Bill) and solo. Pantera was on that tour too. This was before the live album released in 98' when all the original members were back.
You guys should have spoken about Iommi's solo album from 2000 and the DEP Sessions (1996) and Fused (2005) with Glenn Hughes on vocals, which essentially they were Part 2 and Part 3 of Seventh Star. There was also Geezer's band GZR which released 3 albums.
Ozzy era Sabbath was so good and so influential that I just can’t get myself to listen to any other post Ozzy record other than Heaven and Hell. But I’ve never tried Born Again. So I’ll give it a try.
Listen to the ultimate "Black Sabbath" version from Worcester "83. Ian Gillan blown away any other Sabbath singer on that and on War pigs, Paranoid...H&H great vocals too. Born Again was a fantastic album and I suggest to anyone the Worcester 83 bootleg.
The Dehumanizer tour from 1992 was imo the heaviest and best Black Sabbath every sounded live (and in the studio). By 2006 through 2009 Dio's voice was a pale shadow of what it had once been (the cracks started in 2005). He had so much power and anger in 1992 during those live shows. He couldn't even come close to duplicating that kind of power, range and energy when they reformed as Heaven and Hell in the late 2000's. Little did we know he was battling with stomach cancer at that time.
Nooo , but I agree Dio's voice was waning by 2007 , don't forget he was in his 60's and battling stomach cancer. So maybe that weakened him to an extent...P.s. The Devil You Know was a good album and Bible Black is a classic Sabbath song!!
I absolutely love Born Again....saw them on tour in New Haven CT.....they played Rock and Roll Doctor.....Dehumanizer is awesome...the Tony Martin era for me unfortunately sounded a lot like commercial metal...there are 4 Tony Martin tracks that are absolutely killer...the title track Eternal Idol and Lost Forever.....and from Cross purposes Virtual Death and Evil Eye....these tracks are at the top of the heap....maintaining that evil doom laden Sabbath sound....lyrics and vocals as well.....
You guys forgot to mention that TV Crimes off of Dehumanizer was on the Wayne's World soundtrack, but it was a different version. Also, that 3 disc bootleg Chris brought up has a few songs with Dio on vocals that were not released on the album, but were amazing.
Fascinating stuff, nothing better than listening to people who love and know what they are talking about.
Thanks Gary! As you can tell, Chris and I had a BLAST talking about a band we love!
Great post Gary G.
Eternal Idol, Headless Cross, and Tyr are without question the best Sabbath albums post Dio.
All absolute classics and Tony Martin's voice rocks big time.
I agree with you big time! I love all three albums big time, especially The Headless Cross. The Headless Cross is one of my all time favorite albums. It is a Masterpiece to me.
Cozy Powell
I really appreciate you two covering the much under appreciated post Mob Rules era in great detail. Thank you!!
What a fantastic informative discussion! I have binged the first 2 parts and am now moving onto the 3rd part.
The guy who ran IRS Records was Miles Copeland, Stewart’s brother, who also managed The Police. Otherwise, phenomenal retrospective, guys! I especially liked the fact that you gave Ray Gillen some props and Tony Martin the respect he deserves as a part of Sabbath history. They made some really great metal with Martin, which only gets overlooked because it was called Black Sabbath and didn’t have Ozzy or Dio. Imagine if Headless Cross or Tyr just happened to be four unknown dudes. People would have been poopin’ their kulats!
Tony Martin deserves his proper place in the Black Sabbath canon, as he was their longest serving vocalist since Ozzy.
Mark Poitras - Plus, he’s great.
I could listen to you two talk about Sabbath all day
The Born Again album is one of the best and most under rated Sabbath albums of all time. Tony's riffs are evil on it and Ian's screams are insane , the album is the perfect fit for the time. We loved it so much we named our band Digital Bitch!🤘 Sabbath rules!!!
I'm so glad I found this channel. Easily the best review channel in my opinion.
Agreed. Not even close
The 2024 remix of Forbidden is godly. Might be my favorite Tony Martin album now.
11:18 Stonehenge stage setup wasn´t just life-size, it was way bigger because the man who made them mixed up the different measurement systems...
I’m surprised by your unanimous distaste of “ TV Crimes”. That track is a killer - that riff crushes!!
Absolutely agree to that, so crushing yet so catchy, my fav from the album.
Wow Chris is a Sabbath encyclopedia
Fantastic overview! I'm so glad you don't ignore the Tony Martin years!!!!!!
Sharon and Ozzy took Tony to court to stop him using the Sabbath name. So wrong of them to do that to Tony, I'm amazed he even spoke to them ever again after that, let alone play and record with Ozzy again. Dio said that he didn't care if they weren't allowed to use the name because it everyone knew they were Black Sabbath. Ozzy should be ashamed of doing that, Dio was so many leagues above him as a singer and musician. Thanks for the video guys, always a pleasure. Cheers from the UK. Ronnie
It really is sad what Ozzy lets her do, he seems like such a chill guy.
Absolutely, Ronnie was a class act🕇🤘🕇
Part 2 of three in a series.long live sea of tranquility 😊
In '02 I saw Purple and I was surprised they did Child In Time, which they hadn't played since '95. Joe Eliott was in the audience and Ian nailed the high screams! It was so emotional that I had tears in my eyes, and as soon as the song finished everbody was on their feet giving giving Ian a standing ovation, it was a truly wonderful performance from Gillan. I'll never forget it.
Black Sabbath are my all time favorite band. Born Again is a great album. Love the Gillan era and wish it lasted longer. The stories alone from the era are the stuff of legend. I'll always wish the Dio and Gillan era's were longer than they were. Both were great in Sabbath and I've always felt one or the other should've been in the band long term.
Love this format/presentation. The banter between two knowledgeable and enthuisiastic commentators waxing on a perfect topic is pure magic
Totally dig this! Born again is top 5 sabbath album for me!
Same...
Yup for sure
Born again my favorite album…I loved also Gillian’s version live heaven and hell…genius the way how he screams
My all time favourite Sabbath álbum. I just love Born Again and It is such a pity that this Sabbath era lasted only one álbum.
Agree , I saw this tour with Quiet Riot opened for them , killer show!
"Dehumanizer" is the most modern thing Black Sabbath has done up to this very moment.
It is the most unique Black Sabbath album. I love that they took an approach to get even heavier and darker than ever before.
I hate to get into semantics, but technically they've released three studio albums since LOL Four if you count The Devil You Know (I do) and it sounds very modern.
Its fuckin great!!!
@markrago I believe the OP was talking about the production, the direction of music, lyrical content, imagery, etc. Not necessarily about the production cause yes 13 sounds more "modern" but thats not his point.
I have been a huge Black Sabbath fan for over thirty years, and not until two years ago I only listened to the Ozzy and Dio eras only. I finally two years ago gave the rest of the eras a chance and I regret not doing it a long time ago. I love The Seventh Star, Born Again, The Eternal Idol, The Headless Cross, and TYR alot. Those albums in my opinion are amazing Black Sabbath albums, especially The Eternal Idol, The Headless Cross, Born Again, and The Seventh Star. Ian Gilian, Glenn Hughes, Ray Gillen, and especially Tony Martin did an amazing job singing for Black Sabbath. The Headless Cross should have been a huge seller. It does not have one weak song on it. TYR and The Eternal Idol are also very strong albums. I do love Cross Purposes and Dehumanizer alot also. Tony Iommi is definitely by far the most important member of Black Sabbath ever. Most would have given up after being the last original member left, but Tony Iommi kept going forward.
Love the extended comments on Born Again. Fantastic album, super heavy and badass, and criminally maligned. Was waiting for the typical "here is this clunker of an album" but you guys really get it about Born Again and I salute you. And The Fallen? Woww, as heavy as anything on Born Again. Great song!
Every time Dio put life back into the band, Ozzy finds away to steal the thunder. The Dio stuff will always be my favorite. Heaven and Hell is one of the best albums for both Dio and Sabbath.
You mean sharon. She couldn't even let dio have the last record with them so they get ozzy again and record 13.
The best album they did born again it is just a awesome record !
Headless Cross is the best Tony Martin era album.
TYR was good too. I think we can agree that Forbidden was the worst.
jms980 Eternal Idol is my favourite. Yep, Forbidden is atrocious.
I love the Cross Purposes album. I may be the only one, LOL
I agree with you that The Headless Cross is the best Tony Martin era album. The Headless Cross is even in my top five favorite Black Sabbath albums ever. I do also really love The Eternal Idol and TYR alot also. The Tony Martin era is extremely underrated big time. I hope to one day see albums like The Headless Cross , TYR, Cross Purposes, and even Forbidden have deluxe editions with unreleased live and studio songs and remastered for much better sound.
I agree 100%. The Eternal Idol and Try deserve an honorable mention as well.
Brilliant viewing. really enjoyed this.
Fantastic! I shed a bit of tear at the end.
Would be interested to hear Pete and Chris's take on the Live Aid gig. It seemed like such a surreal moment
You guys are part of Black Sabbath history from now on!
Binging all Pete;s videos, can't get enough. Thank you Pete learning alot!
superb show lads, of a classic band, superb.
Great Stuff guys I love it thankyou.
I saw Sabbath in 2000 at The Astoria in London, a relatively small venue. When the band kicked into the riff to ‘Sabbath Bloody Sabbath’ I got goosebumps. It was immense. A brilliant show, I’m so pleased I saw them with the classic line up.
Great video I've been checking out one of my all time favorite bands again with the recent release of anno domini 1989 to 1995 and your channel came up in my feed I'm glad people agree with me that the heaven and hell album is a Dio Black Sabbath album
'Great 2 part video boys. laughed when reading the sabbath book symptom of the universe when as Gillan sort of squatted down to read the lyrics, someone from the audience said 'Ronnie, Ronnie's back' :) gold
Thank you guys, this was fantastic, I've always been a big Sabbath fan but never got interested in much beyond Sabotage. Sabotage and MOR are still my go-to's for any day of the week, and now your incredible enthusiasm and knowledge have really inspired me to explore the entire catalogue.
Saw their first tour in Toronto 1970.
Two die-hard fans talking about a die-hard band.
What a treat
Glenn Hues was a interesting vocalist for Sabbath . Great video guys ;)
Seventh Star is phenomenal. Loved the Tony Martin era except for Forbidden.
Gooooood info. Love these!
BTW Pete, I really enjoy your videos. Great stuff man. Much appreciated.
great reviews and great insight really enjoyed it guys
I'm creeping up on 50 years old and grew up on Sabbath. My sisters were both considerably older than me, so I had access to all their records from a very early age. By the time Ozzy was fired, and the Dio era started......I was a big fan and collected all the 80s/90s Sabbath iterations. As well as all the Ozzy years. I have to say, I find myself listening to post Ozzy Sabbath more than anything.
great show, thanks
God I love you guys, great channel!
GREAT 2-part video, guys!! You are both great together, and I am so jealous of Chris who has interviewed *the* greatest metal legends ever. (He's cute, by the way; he reminds me of a sober Chris Farley!!)
Now, did I hear correctly that you're going to do a History of April Wine?? OMG PLEASE DO THAT!! April Wine is one of my all-time favorite bands!! ❤️
awesome videos as always
I never heard of What's the Use. Thanks Chris.
Live the Reunion live album. It’s like their Ozzy-era greatest hits live with a few deep tracks sprinkled in. Sounds great too.
I was so happy when the Reunion live album came out back in the late 90's. There was a live album Live At Last that was from the 70's but the sound quality was not good. Finally Black Sabbath had a live album that sounded phenomenal with Ozzy and the setlist was incredible. I still listen to it very often. I also got their most recent live album The End which is also a great live album with a great setlist also, but Ozzy's singing was not as strong as it was on the Reunion album and Bill Ward is also not on it and it is noticeable because his drumming style is very unique and powerful.
Born Again is a great album alongside SBS and HH from the previous incarnations of this great band
The albums Born Again all the way up to Cross Purposes are extremely underrated and most Black Sabbath fans don't like them or have not listened to them because Ozzy and Ronnie James Dio are not the lead singers on them accept for Dehumanizer. Albums like The Seventh Star, Born Again, The Eternal Idol, The Headless Cross, TYR, Dehumanizer, and Cross Purposes are Phenomenal albums. I hope one day really soon that albums like The Headless Cross, TYR, Cross Purposes, and even Forbidden get the deluxe edition treatment like most of the previous albums. I would love to hear unreleased live songs and studio songs on those deluxe editions and to be remastered for a much better sound. This history of Black Sabbath was so amazing to watch. I watched all three parts back to back and really enjoyed it big time. You two have awesome chemistry and you can tell that you guys had a ton of fun doing this too. Thanks again for doing this.
You guys are great and knowledgeable so glad I found your channel. I never even heard born again and I've been listening to it yes it's very muddy my first impressions of it aren't very good maybe it's a grower.
the eternal idol is such a great album,i`m glad there is a deluxe version with Ray & Tony Martin singing,the tony martin era of sabbath is great i feel some of the albums are better than some of the ozzy stuff
I saw BLACK SABBATH with Ronnie and Vinny in 2008 on the Metal Masters Tour (Nikon Jones Beach Theater in NY) and it was probably the greatest show I've ever seen. I wish I could experience it again, or I wish I had seen some more shows when they were touring with Ronnie and Vinny.
Huge Sabbath fan too :). Had Iommi in my 8th grade binder... picture from 81-83
I'm a little late to the party here but this Retrospective/ History is awesome. In depth facts and a little anecdotal, this made for an entertaining watch. Have you ever considered doing videos about the re-releases from any given band? I ask because you showed several of the 2 disc re-issues and was wondering what the second disc offers. Would you consider talking in depth about the bonus tracks, and different versions on those discs?
Born again kicks total ass!killer album
Born Again great album favorite song off said album “Keep It Warm” yes sir……
Great video, great channel. The issue with 13 for me, is that it doesn't sound influenced by anything other than themselves...and by themselves I mean Master Of Reality.
really interesting stuff here. Love all your band history videos. Maybe one on Iron Maiden next?
I agree with you when you said the Seventh Star album features one of Glenn's heaviest vocal performances. He's never sounded heavier anywhere else in his career. He's mostly done funk and soul sorts of songs in most of his earlier solo work, but with Seventh Star, goddamn, Glenn's performance was such a heavy surprise. What an album. I am absolutely in love with it! My favourite Sabbath album of all time! And of course, Tony Martin's period in Sabbath was almost as great! 2nd favourite Sabbath singer after Glenn Hughes. Dio is just after Tony Martin.
I love Born Again's cover!!
the fallen.... just damn. that song is SOOOOOOOOOOOO fucking incredible
Eternal Idol is very good, and the version with Ray Gillen on vocals is even better.
Too bad Sabbath doesn't share your perspective.
This is pretty good, if I'm not mistaken.
Killer shirt too Pete!
I saw them twice in Dehumanizer tour. I bootlegged that gig on cassette... I probably have it somewhere but those gigs are on youtube...
My first Sabbath gig was with Tony Martin and I think it was Vinnie on drums... Cross Purpose tour. 13 tour was the last time I saw them...
13 if it was jot produced by Rick Rubin, it would have been a different beast... love that album.
Almost as good as listening to the music... love ya guys... in a cool way !!!
“Hewn into the living rock... of Ston’enge.”
I never quite bought the theory that Gillan ruined his voice on the Sabbath tour.....I think it was a combo of Giilan (band), Sabbath and the Purple reunion tour (1984/85). With that being said, he sounded good on the two Deep Purple shows I witnessed in 1987.
Damn. Some of this discussion means you're younger than me. I thought you were older. My career shifted me from concentrating on releases--of music as well as on science fiction literature-toward the anthro/geo/environmental professions I ended up with.
Pretty cool reviews....you guys are honest in your opinions.Even if they might flip someone out
And on the Cross Purposes tour, there were a few shows in South America where Bill Ward joined Tony and Geezer onstage. It was literally a reunion without Ozzy.
16:20 you guys mentioned David Donato and Bill coming back but only doing a photo shoot, but check out the song "No Way Out" they demoed with Sabbath at that time, which eventually became "The Shining" a few years later. Also, at 11:18 you talk about the Stonehenge set being spoofed in Spinal Tap, but check out the 20-minute short "Spinal Tap: The Final Tour," which went into production in 1981-2, predating Born Again and the full-length version of the movie by a couple of years. That bit is in there, so it was in the movie while Ronnie was still in the band.
I'm familiar with all the albums up to 7th Star and I agree with most of the reviews except 7th Star and Never Say Die cause Never Say Die is such an interesting albums with great songs, weird atmospherics and lots of experimentation, so different from any other album and has a lot of feel, some people have said is like a prog album.. on the other hand 7th star let's get real it's standard 80's hard rock done with great musicians but no feel or amazing songwriting. Watching this video made me wanna listen to the rest of the albums, so thanks guys
Pt 1 is Excellent. Where else can you find this? Thank you. Looking forward to this Pt 2 vid
Another thing from the Dehumanizer demo period was that one of the tracks rehearsed but not released became the basis of "Raising Hell" off Tony Martin's Scream album. Cozy gave Tony the drum tracks. Before Vinny joined again, and after Cozy's injury, Ronnie wanted Simon Wright as drummer, as he'd enjoyed working with him in Dio. Geezer and Tony vetoed this, so Vinny came back.
love headless cross. Eternal Idol is good as is Tyr. Only time i saw sabbath was on the Headless Cross tour with Ian Gillan jumping in for an encore of smoke on the water, which was the charity single from Rock Aid for Armenia at the time. Great show, even did Neon Knights.
Great video! I’d love to see a history of Saxon at some point
Hell yes!!!
just heard forbidden and think the guitar is so bang on and tight, some of the best hes ever played or am i missing something like sense
All of Tony's riffs are killer and evil sounding , especially on Born Again and Live Evil!!
In the UK I believe Born Again was Sabbath's highest chart placing since Sabotage, at number four I think. The mix is bad (and Iommi says that can't find the master tapes in order to remix it) but I loved it when it was released and Ian's vocals are fantastic.
Yeah I agree , the mix was terrible , to much bass sounding. Even the remastered one with the live version along with the studio one isn't any better. But I still love this album , Hotline is one of the sickest song's on the album IMO!
Your history of the born again album cover us a bit off. “The one of the baby was actually the front cover of a 1968 magazine called Mind Alive. I took some black and white photocopies of the image that I overexposed, stuck the horns, nails, fangs into the equation, used the most outrageous colour combination that acid could buy, bastardised a bit of the Olde English typeface and sat back, shook my head and chuckled.”
Interesting fact, Bill Ward filled in live in 1994 on the Cross Purposes tour for some South American shows while Geezer was still in the band. So essentially, it was the original lineup of Black Sabbath with Tony Martin on vocals instead of Ozzy. You can watch the live footage on youtube from Chile, Argentina and Brazil with Geezer on bass and Bill Ward filling in on drums. Sabbath also released a live album for the Cross Purposes tour.
They did Ozzfest in 97' in the States too with Ozzy doing a Black Sabbath set(without Bill) and solo. Pantera was on that tour too. This was before the live album released in 98' when all the original members were back.
Michael Bolton actually auditioned for Sabbath as well in the 80's.
You guys should have spoken about Iommi's solo album from 2000 and the DEP Sessions (1996) and Fused (2005) with Glenn Hughes on vocals, which essentially they were Part 2 and Part 3 of Seventh Star. There was also Geezer's band GZR which released 3 albums.
Great albums for sure Dan, but we ran so long on these there wasn't nearly enough time to get into some of the solo stuff.
Ozzy era Sabbath was so good and so influential that I just can’t get myself to listen to any other post Ozzy record other than Heaven and Hell. But I’ve never tried Born Again. So I’ll give it a try.
Thats a bit silly
10 -4 on Eternal Idol, I bought on cassette tape in early 1988. Great tape had it for 10 years till It died.
For a short moment I misread your message and wondered how you posted this comment after you died. Then the penny dropped. :)
If you can, find the rough mix of Forbidden. I tend to listen to it more than the actual album.
I actually saw Sabbath with Gillan at the Reading festival. He kept forgetting the words to the songs. It was hilarious!
Listen to the ultimate "Black Sabbath" version from Worcester "83. Ian Gillan blown away any other Sabbath singer on that and on War pigs, Paranoid...H&H great vocals too. Born Again was a fantastic album and I suggest to anyone the Worcester 83 bootleg.
I think,but I hope im wrong,Ians memory is on the wain,seem later purple concerts and he has to have the words on a lectern
Coverdale also auditioned for Uriah Heep, either after Byron or Lawton left
The Dehumanizer tour from 1992 was imo the heaviest and best Black Sabbath every sounded live (and in the studio). By 2006 through 2009 Dio's voice was a pale shadow of what it had once been (the cracks started in 2005). He had so much power and anger in 1992 during those live shows. He couldn't even come close to duplicating that kind of power, range and energy when they reformed as Heaven and Hell in the late 2000's. Little did we know he was battling with stomach cancer at that time.
Nooo , but I agree Dio's voice was waning by 2007 , don't forget he was in his 60's and battling stomach cancer. So maybe that weakened him to an extent...P.s. The Devil You Know was a good album and Bible Black is a classic Sabbath song!!
I absolutely love Born Again....saw them on tour in New Haven CT.....they played Rock and Roll Doctor.....Dehumanizer is awesome...the Tony Martin era for me unfortunately sounded a lot like commercial metal...there are 4 Tony Martin tracks that are absolutely killer...the title track Eternal Idol and Lost Forever.....and from Cross purposes Virtual Death and Evil Eye....these tracks are at the top of the heap....maintaining that evil doom laden Sabbath sound....lyrics and vocals as well.....
Same here , I was at that show. Quiet Riot opened for them , it was a killer show , Ian was incredible! I loved the Born Again album!
I really liked 13! Thank god Tony is better now
You guys forgot to mention that TV Crimes off of Dehumanizer was on the Wayne's World soundtrack, but it was a different version. Also, that 3 disc bootleg Chris brought up has a few songs with Dio on vocals that were not released on the album, but were amazing.
It's Time Machine that is on the Wayne's World album, not TV Crimes.