Honestly I hope this channel blows up. You have a ridiculously long list of videos with great content and the presentation is pretty decent. Great work on these videos and content
Tekton was impressive for the price. I'll still be ordering the Williams though. I've had enough bad tekton stuff that is just not worth my time to order the cheap stuff. But that's why your reviews are so helpful, since sometimes there is a surprise. It would be interesting to have tested them with impact guns as well even if they're not rated for it.
Yeah its ingesting to see, and unlike most Im not biased to one brand or another. I have some ideals maybe in the future for testing these again and also impacts. Sadly an impact would destroy this load cell, so it will need to be custom to handle the impact force.
I have had the same experience. I started out with a lot of tekton but quickly realize some of their stuff is cheapo... I have since bought a lot of snap on, mac, proto, williams and others. All brands have good and bad stuff just a matter of what you like
Very informative test. Concerning the non-impact ratings of the Snap-on adapters, this test type (linear torque application) falls right in line with the intended design of these pieces, so the performance is almost unsurprising due to the nature in which the torque is applied. Now, I do have a complete set of these adapters from Snap-on and use them with an impact on a semi-regular basis with no negative effects. As you stated, use at your own risk. During field usage, I have noticed that most failures of “impact rated” adapters comes from usage with a hand wrench rather than from an impact. I suspect this has to do with the metallurgy of the piece being formulated to be softer to absorb the impacting blows and deform rather than shatter like a much harder formulation as is typical of a chromed tool.
Thanks!, Yeah it's interesting that under none impact load, chrome and impact max ft lbs are about the same. Case in point Icon chrome 253 vs Icon impact 255. Hopefully in the future I can rerun this test using an impact. But for that, I will have to build a test stand seeing an impact would destroy this load cell.
Just goes to show the absolute variances in quality that exist with one brand! Prime example was the chrome Icon vs the impact version. Polar opposite. Great job
I asked my snapon dealer about the non impact rating. He specifically told me that he doesn't care. If I put it on my impact and break it he will warranty it anyway.
Yeah seems a way for them to not have to warranty their tools by stating this, cause its not an unknown thing that any adapter when going smaller has a very high chance of breaking. Good on the rep. for being down to earth. Snap-on makes plenty enough, having to cover a few adapters wouldn't even be noticed. Though I can see their view on it. Is like a screw company giving a warranty on any screws you strip knowning many will. That would add up.
I know this video is a month old, but one thing I'd be interested in is how these adapters preformed when used to within spec. For example in 1/4 drive I think the general recommendation for ft/lbs max is what 30ft/lbs? So every one of the 1/4 inch adapters met that capability, some seemed stronger than others, but my understanding is that generally speaking the stronger a socket/adapter is to direct, continuous, force, the weaker it will be in terms of overall longevity when used as an impact. This is not terribly important to me, as I've got the sizes I need for sockets but it's interesting as a point of discussion. P.S. I just found your channel and I don't know how it took so long. You're criminally underrated man. Keep up the awesome work!
Good point, Im thinking about revisiting this, maybe the goal should be to find an impact that is at the rated spec or just below it and see how much abuse they can take. Thanks! Other have said they to had a hard time finding the channel. Will do!
Well that’s not necessarily true that the stronger it is to continuous force the weaker it is for repeated impact, you basically have toughness (ability to absorb impact and not fracture) strength (ability to withstand applied load and not break) and hardness (ability to withstand load and not deform). Higher quality will have great scores for all of these, while lower quality will sacrifice one for the other. On cheap “impact rated” stuff, they might sacrifice hardness and strength in order to meet the minimum toughness required for impact rating, meaning they’ll wear faster and break easier under high load, but might perform ok over time as long as they’re not abused, or, they could just be crappy all around. On the other end, a high quality tool will outperform the lower in every category. This means you just can’t see a tool that breaks under continuous load and assume it’s going to be good for impact, or see it’s strong under load and assume it won’t be good for impact. There’s just so much variability.
I bought $5 Pittsburgh. 1/2 to 3/8 adapter snapped on a first removal of lug bolts (correct torque 135 lb ft) but the tire shop overtighened the crap out of them. Had to use the breaker bar to get lug bols free. Judging by your graph, and the amount of force with the breaker bar, the tire shop overtighened lug bolts to over 215 lb ft?!
I have a few different types but I've had my Pittsburgh for about 15 years and have only broken one ...I also have sets from Husky, Tekton, DeWalt and Milwaukee and have never broken any but I used the Pittsburgh set for years before I got any of the others...
That certainly has come out as a you get what you pay for set of results. I have a complete impact rated set from Sealey Tools, but as far as I know they will be a rebrand from another manufacturer.
Yep in this case I was shocked by the Snap-On. Interesting I have never heard of Sealy Tools, thanks for the info, looks like they sell large range of tools.
Good chance the adapter might fail, but most impacts are over rated. Also one thing to keep in mind is if a bolt is torqued to 100ft lbs, it should* only take 80Ft lbs to loosen it unless its seized. Most manufactures will use this to their advantage claiming a much higher loosing torque bc of the 80% rule.
After watching quite a few tool reviews (both power and hand tools and accessories) I think what I've learned is that snap-on is just overpriced trash. They make a few decent tools, but 9 times out of 10 they are trash. Especially compared to the outrageous price. Thank you for putting the graphs in order! It makes seeing which brand is best/worst much more clear and easy. I appreciate that greatly. I also appreciate that you actually take suggestions from viewers and implement them. Excellent video as always! Keep it coming!
Yep for the most part Snap-On is over price. No problem, I will be the first to admit I'm not perfect, so if a suggestions seems valid I will try it. Will do thanks for the feedback!
So most are terrible, defiantly all of the pin style ones. Funny enough the non impact Willams and Snap-on actually have the best fit. I would say the Tekton would be next.
Can someone explain what is being tested on the tester and torque wrench setup? Loss of drive but how? Like is the machine saying hey this is the max, the adapter is going to break if you go further, so he stops?
I can see how that's confusing, this tester is designed for torque wrenches. So it requires a desired torque to be inputed (to print an audit report) even though it can display anything from 60-600 ft lbs with an accuracy of +-.5%. That being said once you input a number it displays a bar graph showing yellow, green, red. Anything in the green is within +-4% of the desired setting which is the normal accuracy of most click style torque wrench's. None of this impact the actual results, or accuracy of the data. When I stop in the video, either the adapter has sheared off or it has yielded and is now bending. It looks like I just stop, but actually the time after max reading was edited out to keep this video short. Just the testing recored time was 50 minutes. Hope this helps
You are correct, this is just the max possible force. Im hoping to retest them with an impact, but I will need to build a rig for that. The load cell in this tester cant take impact.
I don't mean to sound like an idiot but how are you testing these???? You have no explanation of what you're doing. Seems to me that you're putting the adapter on going up to a random number and then taking the adapter back off. Are you going until failure? I'm not seeing any of these break..... forgive my ignorance but please explain the test process seems like none of these are breaking
Sorry I edited some of the video out to shorten it up. When I stop that is the max force the adapter can take, at this point the adapter is twisting. All are taken to the failure point.
![Which Impact Adapter is the Best? 1/4" Impact Driver Adapters [TESTED]](/img/1.gif)
Honestly I hope this channel blows up. You have a ridiculously long list of videos with great content and the presentation is pretty decent. Great work on these videos and content
I appreciate that! maybe someday. Yeah I have been making videos from 2016, but really started getting into testing tools 1/2022.
BTW, for those who don't know, Williams *is* Snap-On for about 1/2 or less the price.
Tekton was impressive for the price. I'll still be ordering the Williams though. I've had enough bad tekton stuff that is just not worth my time to order the cheap stuff. But that's why your reviews are so helpful, since sometimes there is a surprise.
It would be interesting to have tested them with impact guns as well even if they're not rated for it.
Yeah its ingesting to see, and unlike most Im not biased to one brand or another.
I have some ideals maybe in the future for testing these again and also impacts. Sadly an impact would destroy this load cell, so it will need to be custom to handle the impact force.
How the hell is Tekton cheap?
I have had the same experience. I started out with a lot of tekton but quickly realize some of their stuff is cheapo... I have since bought a lot of snap on, mac, proto, williams and others. All brands have good and bad stuff just a matter of what you like
Very informative test. Concerning the non-impact ratings of the Snap-on adapters, this test type (linear torque application) falls right in line with the intended design of these pieces, so the performance is almost unsurprising due to the nature in which the torque is applied. Now, I do have a complete set of these adapters from Snap-on and use them with an impact on a semi-regular basis with no negative effects. As you stated, use at your own risk.
During field usage, I have noticed that most failures of “impact rated” adapters comes from usage with a hand wrench rather than from an impact. I suspect this has to do with the metallurgy of the piece being formulated to be softer to absorb the impacting blows and deform rather than shatter like a much harder formulation as is typical of a chromed tool.
Thanks!, Yeah it's interesting that under none impact load, chrome and impact max ft lbs are about the same. Case in point Icon chrome 253 vs Icon impact 255.
Hopefully in the future I can rerun this test using an impact. But for that, I will have to build a test stand seeing an impact would destroy this load cell.
Just goes to show the absolute variances in quality that exist with one brand! Prime example was the chrome Icon vs the impact version. Polar opposite. Great job
Yep I'm guessing two totally different manufactures.
Thanks
I asked my snapon dealer about the non impact rating. He specifically told me that he doesn't care. If I put it on my impact and break it he will warranty it anyway.
Yeah seems a way for them to not have to warranty their tools by stating this, cause its not an unknown thing that any adapter when going smaller has a very high chance of breaking.
Good on the rep. for being down to earth. Snap-on makes plenty enough, having to cover a few adapters wouldn't even be noticed. Though I can see their view on it. Is like a screw company giving a warranty on any screws you strip knowning many will. That would add up.
I know this video is a month old, but one thing I'd be interested in is how these adapters preformed when used to within spec. For example in 1/4 drive I think the general recommendation for ft/lbs max is what 30ft/lbs? So every one of the 1/4 inch adapters met that capability, some seemed stronger than others, but my understanding is that generally speaking the stronger a socket/adapter is to direct, continuous, force, the weaker it will be in terms of overall longevity when used as an impact.
This is not terribly important to me, as I've got the sizes I need for sockets but it's interesting as a point of discussion.
P.S. I just found your channel and I don't know how it took so long. You're criminally underrated man. Keep up the awesome work!
Good point, Im thinking about revisiting this, maybe the goal should be to find an impact that is at the rated spec or just below it and see how much abuse they can take.
Thanks! Other have said they to had a hard time finding the channel. Will do!
Well that’s not necessarily true that the stronger it is to continuous force the weaker it is for repeated impact, you basically have toughness (ability to absorb impact and not fracture) strength (ability to withstand applied load and not break) and hardness (ability to withstand load and not deform). Higher quality will have great scores for all of these, while lower quality will sacrifice one for the other. On cheap “impact rated” stuff, they might sacrifice hardness and strength in order to meet the minimum toughness required for impact rating, meaning they’ll wear faster and break easier under high load, but might perform ok over time as long as they’re not abused, or, they could just be crappy all around. On the other end, a high quality tool will outperform the lower in every category.
This means you just can’t see a tool that breaks under continuous load and assume it’s going to be good for impact, or see it’s strong under load and assume it won’t be good for impact. There’s just so much variability.
That is a good video. I would have liked to see you include gearwrench.
Thanks! Great suggestion, hopefully next time.
I bought $5 Pittsburgh. 1/2 to 3/8 adapter snapped on a first removal of lug bolts (correct torque 135 lb ft) but the tire shop overtighened the crap out of them. Had to use the breaker bar to get lug bols free. Judging by your graph, and the amount of force with the breaker bar, the tire shop overtighened lug bolts to over 215 lb ft?!
Yeah more than likely, it’s very easy these days with how powerful impacts are!
I have a few different types but I've had my Pittsburgh for about 15 years and have only broken one ...I also have sets from Husky, Tekton, DeWalt and Milwaukee and have never broken any but I used the Pittsburgh set for years before I got any of the others...
Interesting did you take the Pittsburg back to HF, I'm curious if they gave you a new one?
@@Tools-Tested no I have so many others I didn't even bother
New subscriber here. Please do the 3/4 to 1/2 inch adapters. I would love to see that. Especially what the Snap On would take. Thank you.
Thanks for the sub! I will add it to my list.
Very nice video. Please keep on making them. I found them to be very informative.
Thanks! Will do!
Was there something I missed on the HUSKY? I saw 226,not 266
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No, looks like I miss spoke. Hmm probably need to buy another set to confirm.
That certainly has come out as a you get what you pay for set of results. I have a complete impact rated set from Sealey Tools, but as far as I know they will be a rebrand from another manufacturer.
Yep in this case I was shocked by the Snap-On.
Interesting I have never heard of Sealy Tools, thanks for the info, looks like they sell large range of tools.
Good test, I need a 1/2 to 3/8
Thanks!
What happens if I use an impact with loosening torque beyond those values?
Good chance the adapter might fail, but most impacts are over rated. Also one thing to keep in mind is if a bolt is torqued to 100ft lbs, it should* only take 80Ft lbs to loosen it unless its seized. Most manufactures will use this to their advantage claiming a much higher loosing torque bc of the 80% rule.
Should've tested the universal joint adapters. I had one of the Pittsburgh 1/2" ones explode and send shrapnel past my friends face. Not cool. Lol
Hope to at some point with the new impact tester.
Hi Tools Tested - Can you do a review on the *85196 Gearwrench 120XP Digital Torque Wrench?*
Hi, the plan is to do the 120XP in 3/8 next month
@@Tools-Tested Thank you Tools Tested - I bought one and wanted to see your experience. thank you again for replying
You should try abusing these with an impact to test them. I am looking for issues of them wollowing out moreso than shearing off.
After watching quite a few tool reviews (both power and hand tools and accessories) I think what I've learned is that snap-on is just overpriced trash. They make a few decent tools, but 9 times out of 10 they are trash. Especially compared to the outrageous price.
Thank you for putting the graphs in order! It makes seeing which brand is best/worst much more clear and easy. I appreciate that greatly. I also appreciate that you actually take suggestions from viewers and implement them.
Excellent video as always! Keep it coming!
Yep for the most part Snap-On is over price.
No problem, I will be the first to admit I'm not perfect, so if a suggestions seems valid I will try it.
Will do thanks for the feedback!
How well does the female portion of the reducer, especially the 3/8 to 1/4, fit the ratchet/impact? I have owned 3 with terrible fit.
So most are terrible, defiantly all of the pin style ones.
Funny enough the non impact Willams and Snap-on actually have the best fit. I would say the Tekton would be next.
@@Tools-Tested thank you
Can someone explain what is being tested on the tester and torque wrench setup? Loss of drive but how? Like is the machine saying hey this is the max, the adapter is going to break if you go further, so he stops?
I can see how that's confusing, this tester is designed for torque wrenches. So it requires a desired torque to be inputed (to print an audit report) even though it can display anything from 60-600 ft lbs with an accuracy of +-.5%.
That being said once you input a number it displays a bar graph showing yellow, green, red. Anything in the green is within +-4% of the desired setting which is the normal accuracy of most click style torque wrench's. None of this impact the actual results, or accuracy of the data.
When I stop in the video, either the adapter has sheared off or it has yielded and is now bending. It looks like I just stop, but actually the time after max reading was edited out to keep this video short. Just the testing recored time was 50 minutes.
Hope this helps
@Tools Tested thanks a lot that definitely helps, hadn't watched any of your prior content, really appreciate you breaking it down. 🤠
what if im looking for 1/2 female to 3/4 male...What are those called?
Normally labeled the same, socket adapter
Testing methods are not clear, how are you determining your final torque value?
The video was cut/speed up to keep it short. When I stop they are past maximum yield and are twisting. So the data shows force at which it fails.
@@Tools-Tested thanks for the clarification
You have the numbers off for the husky 3/8 rating sir
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www.homedepot.com/p/Husky-1-2-in-Drive-Impact-Adapter-1-2-in-Female-x-3-8-in-Male-HIMPADP2DF3DM/205531871
Maybe I'm way off here but not using an impact means the adapter didn't have to deal with the vibrations and therefore changes the test numbers...
You are correct, this is just the max possible force. Im hoping to retest them with an impact, but I will need to build a rig for that. The load cell in this tester cant take impact.
@@Tools-Tested gotcha. Rapidly starting to prefer your channel to the project farm
Snap on all day
IMHO, adapters are stop-gap tools. Saving money here allows one to have the "proper sized" tools sooner.
100%
Right lol.
Milwaukee seems like the best bang for the buck for real world usage
I don't mean to sound like an idiot but how are you testing these???? You have no explanation of what you're doing. Seems to me that you're putting the adapter on going up to a random number and then taking the adapter back off. Are you going until failure? I'm not seeing any of these break..... forgive my ignorance but please explain the test process seems like none of these are breaking
Sorry I edited some of the video out to shorten it up.
When I stop that is the max force the adapter can take, at this point the adapter is twisting.
All are taken to the failure point.
Yea snapon does not offer them because they don’t want to have to warranty them out