@@patricksavage242 he did listen quite clearly and commented appropriately, u should re-watch it before treating someone dumb just because he wrote(rightfully)something boastful about our country. Here let me give u the time stamp at 15:37 .
I had a Pakistani colleague working in my project as QA lead, in USA. He was really overwhelmed by the amount of effort that Indian engineers put in their work. He use to say that Indians are really smart and very hard working. He was not able to keep up to the pace and hard work Indian SE were putting to get the work done. He ultimately left the job. But he was a very soft spoken and friendly guy that I will never forget. One more thing i noticed about Pakistanis that I do not find much with Indians is how much business minded, good in personal finance and great in investments they are (whichever pakistani I met). Most of the Indians are great in saving money but poor in investing it. With inflation, there is no point in just saving money or parking it in a bank account. I feel Indians (me included) should learn to invest their money diligently and should be taught about personal finance and money from childhood!!!
Sorry...that is a very generic comment! As a long term banker, I totally disagree with your conclusion. India's middle class has done so well because of amazing investment strategies and that also reflects from the way AMC businesses have boomed and the stock markets have been witnessing terrific volumes of trading. There is something called valid representative sample to draw a strong conclusion from else it is of no use and is reduced to a conjecture.
'quality of talent is a big issue' - thank you for calling this out. We need to get of this 'Pakistan mein baraa talent hai' mindset. We need hireable youth, not jugaaru unprofessionals
Very helpful podcast specially for the students like me who are studying their respective courses and experiencing the issues as stated in the discussions. I appreciate your effort for awaring us and providing with the solutions to contribute in the country's development. Thank you very much Muzammil Bhai. Long live Pakistan 🇵🇰
@@sarahb6294 dawg calm down salty b,yes the pak army point I 100% agree with,but there ain't nothing wrong with some like minded individuals coming together to make things work some how lmao no need to watch a podcast since your views are so neg
Textile industry owners are established families and have the clout and leverage which is lacking in the IT industry whose owners are mostly middle class. It is the middle class mindset which prevents the IT sector able to have any influence in the government policies.
Question: a good fast graduate with about 6 months of market experience or a boy with almost 3 year of market experience and a average student of average university like ziauddin IQRA etc What you think who will be better overall ???? a general question
Generally kids who have a good educated khate pete household environment excel more than others. They don't usually have psychological traumas or stresses. Secondly good schooling is more important than good Unis for average students. For intelligent ones they perform no matter what.
Sayed Ahmed Sir, to have better bandwidth for mobile connectivity one needs more spectrum and not frequency as mentioned by you . The country has to invest in its fiber optic network across the length and breadth of its geographical boundaries which Pakistan in its current economic state is unable to afford.
The statement: 'Indians sar gira ke kaam karte hain' again subtly reeks so much of typical pakistani arrogance which has led the country to where it is right now. The podcast guest totally and very conveniently overlooked any other qualities of Indian work ethics as the reason for their success but 'sar gira ke' was the only reason. That made me laugh out loud! Even the opinion leaders and so called solution givers of the country are trapped in their sense of superiority so deep!
He's literally saying that Indians "put their head down and work," meaning that they are extremely focused on their work, and they don't let anything anybody has to say about them from doing what they have to do.
@@patricksavage242 Nice defence! Now pls go and watch again. He said even if you give 2 slaps to an Indian he will continue to keep his head down and work. Does that translate as focus to you? Sorry, not to me!! :)
@jugni7615 Bruh, why are you focusing on how he said it instead of what he's saying? I agree that he should've used better words to describe what he's saying, but overall, he's praising Indians for their tenacity to succeed. For example, foreigners make fun of Indians for their accent or say that they smell like curry, etc, yet Indians are the ones who are successful and wealthy, and the foreigners are homeless even in their own country. There is no better story of success than an Indians.
If all Pakistani decisions are money based and value making money.. how many Businesses are worth billion dollars, how many dollar billionaires are made it's very negligible or close to none within or outside the country.. even with this attitude the country is nearing bankruptcy ?
Let there be free and fair election first in Pakistan . Let army go back to barracks for Pakistan becoming a normal country. Thereafter, talk about IT.
My friend.i am not talking about myself,my comment for all those people who did not pick the key points from the whole conversation.yes I we know much better the English language is necessary but , Urdu to Urdu hay Na ..
@@kachrachi my friend we english is not our mother language. sometimes we are just listening it on background without watching you kuch words english k miss ho jatay hain istrah whole sentence ki smjh nahin ati. baki ye podcast bilkukl normal thi. koi ika duka word e koi sophisticated word bola hoga.
Well, as I marked this guest, I could feel that he is not enlightened enough, because there are many surrounding and supporting factors that he ignored completely.
ye he mindset Pakistani elites ka. Indian Islia aage nai he because they are more educated more hardworking more skilled and honest but Islia aage he kyo ki sar jhuka ke kam karte he do thapad khaa Ke bhi kam karte! They even do not realise that how disgusting and disrespectful it is this is Pakistani elite! Just think about normal people!! Have they even seen Delhi gurugram noida UP ke boys jat Gujjars rajputs Brahmins Thakur reddy Sethi Anna rao Maratha Or Yadavs !!! nai dekhe innhone tabhi pathan pathan karte he! Indians sar bhi jhukate he Muslim pe jurm bhi karte he!
Maine programming seekhna Shuru kri hai Kya na krun. Main ,ai take over krlega agr 10 years Mai to faida Kya seekhne ka 10 years kahin or lagalun main isse acha
dekho aisa nahi ha. when wordpress and wix appeared on the scene logo na kaha ab to ham bghair programming k websites bna sakte ha programming to farigh ha. But web devalopment is not SOFTWARE ENGENEERING. agar ap ko thora sa bhi programming ka knowledge ha to u know that programming is a small part, for most part u try to make the solution (website hmare case ma) more effecient for business. like for example web devalopment ma bohot sari programming languages ko use kar k websites bann sakti ha, kisi language sa fast websites banti ha , kisi language sa secure websites banti ha. Ap k business k liye kya suitable ha ya decide karna phir uss language k tools ko use karna ya SOFTWARE ENGENEERING ha. wix ya wordpress ap ko ya options nahi deti. AI to abhi bacha ha iss case ma. reply lengthy ho jy ga aur bhi bohot baate ha
If you are talking about TCS they also hires diploma holders gives exposure to the software industry those who have passion stays and gets experience and moves on.if you talks about Pakistan software industry you will find greedy owners, politics, difficult hiring processes
@@chaitanyabhargava5131plzz don't be apologetic,these ppl r all honey sweet ,bcz they r at the verge of collapse Once they overcomes this ,the same anti bharat rhetoric will start Till now,their is a huge support of ppl like hafiz,daud,in paxt.. Till now,aurangzeb is adored by the majority
Correction :Not 4 million but 400 million people has been moved out of poverty into middle-class in india.
My dear bro he talking that India every year producing 4 million professional s not madel class
Learn to listen before saying something 🤦♂️
@@patricksavage242 i have gone through the whole podcast if i missed out any point or got it wrong then pls enlighten me with your own observation.
@@patricksavage242 he did listen quite clearly and commented appropriately, u should re-watch it before treating someone dumb just because he wrote(rightfully)something boastful about our country. Here let me give u the time stamp at 15:37 .
@@patricksavage242why should obama listen to osama? There is nothing osama can teach us
I had a Pakistani colleague working in my project as QA lead, in USA. He was really overwhelmed by the amount of effort that Indian engineers put in their work. He use to say that Indians are really smart and very hard working. He was not able to keep up to the pace and hard work Indian SE were putting to get the work done. He ultimately left the job. But he was a very soft spoken and friendly guy that I will never forget.
One more thing i noticed about Pakistanis that I do not find much with Indians is how much business minded, good in personal finance and great in investments they are (whichever pakistani I met).
Most of the Indians are great in saving money but poor in investing it. With inflation, there is no point in just saving money or parking it in a bank account. I feel Indians (me included) should learn to invest their money diligently and should be taught about personal finance and money from childhood!!!
My advice to Indians :
Get married , have more kids ,atleast 3.
Invest the money in your family.
Then Travel with bagpack.
Thanks for the very helpful comment bro. Love from Pakistan
This is the first time I've heard about us Pakistanis being good in the things you mentioned. I agree with Indians working hard, though.
Sorry...that is a very generic comment! As a long term banker, I totally disagree with your conclusion. India's middle class has done so well because of amazing investment strategies and that also reflects from the way AMC businesses have boomed and the stock markets have been witnessing terrific volumes of trading. There is something called valid representative sample to draw a strong conclusion from else it is of no use and is reduced to a conjecture.
In canada, Indians did very well, investing in real estate , they are millionaires now.
India has left the bpo market long back, vietnam is the bpo leader now, India has moved to higher value chain
'quality of talent is a big issue' - thank you for calling this out. We need to get of this 'Pakistan mein baraa talent hai' mindset. We need hireable youth, not jugaaru unprofessionals
All talent is wasted on doing tableegh, namaz, blashphemy, firqawariat, loude bazee
@@ViewsGoogler No trolling please
@@goowhite sometimes it creates the FIRE and bring Akl to AWAM who otherside only come onto streets to do SAR TAN SE JUDA on fake Blasphemy cases
Very helpful podcast specially for the students like me who are studying their respective courses and experiencing the issues as stated in the discussions. I appreciate your effort for awaring us and providing with the solutions to contribute in the country's development. Thank you very much Muzammil Bhai.
Long live Pakistan 🇵🇰
Pakistan is going nowhere its going in the gutter let alone $10 billion in exports. You can thank Pak army, ISI for that.
The point of commenting degrading ah shit w/o watching the whole podcast? Let them do their thing maybe?
@@_lalakakaa122 What i said was the truth. What was wrong in the statement. Think from your brain not from your ass !!!
@@sarahb6294 dawg calm down salty b,yes the pak army point I 100% agree with,but there ain't nothing wrong with some like minded individuals coming together to make things work some how lmao no need to watch a podcast since your views are so neg
Bakcho**di krne ko truth bolta hai apne mulk par dhiya dai,bad**a
Insightful Podcast Muzammil 👍.
Syed Ahmad is one of my personal favourites in the industry.
I had a really great session with Mr Syed last year at DPL regarding an IT session and it was Amazing!
Textile industry owners are established families and have the clout and leverage which is lacking in the IT industry whose owners are mostly middle class. It is the middle class mindset which prevents the IT sector able to have any influence in the government policies.
iit mean india institute of technology .. it doesn't mean only IT is taught there.
I learn so much from this podcast . I am SE student from Karachi. Atleast I can improve my learning journey.
MashaAllah more power to both of you syed bhai❤
Question: a good fast graduate with about 6 months of market experience or a boy with almost 3 year of market experience and a average student of average university like ziauddin IQRA etc
What you think who will be better overall ????
a general question
Generally kids who have a good educated khate pete household environment excel more than others. They don't usually have psychological traumas or stresses. Secondly good schooling is more important than good Unis for average students. For intelligent ones they perform no matter what.
Sayed Ahmed Sir, to have better bandwidth for mobile connectivity one needs more spectrum and not frequency as mentioned by you . The country has to invest in its fiber optic network across the length and breadth of its geographical boundaries which Pakistan in its current economic state is unable to afford.
thats the problem, pakistan experts - are not even at gutter level
The statement: 'Indians sar gira ke kaam karte hain' again subtly reeks so much of typical pakistani arrogance which has led the country to where it is right now. The podcast guest totally and very conveniently overlooked any other qualities of Indian work ethics as the reason for their success but 'sar gira ke' was the only reason. That made me laugh out loud! Even the opinion leaders and so called solution givers of the country are trapped in their sense of superiority so deep!
Let them be 😂
He's literally saying that Indians "put their head down and work," meaning that they are extremely focused on their work, and they don't let anything anybody has to say about them from doing what they have to do.
@@patricksavage242 Nice defence! Now pls go and watch again. He said even if you give 2 slaps to an Indian he will continue to keep his head down and work. Does that translate as focus to you? Sorry, not to me!! :)
@jugni7615 Bruh, why are you focusing on how he said it instead of what he's saying? I agree that he should've used better words to describe what he's saying, but overall, he's praising Indians for their tenacity to succeed. For example, foreigners make fun of Indians for their accent or say that they smell like curry, etc, yet Indians are the ones who are successful and wealthy, and the foreigners are homeless even in their own country. There is no better story of success than an Indians.
@@patricksavage242 Okay sir if you think that's what he said, good for you!
I agree that Sudia Window is open for 2-3 years. Great conversation.
If all Pakistani decisions are money based and value making money.. how many Businesses are worth billion dollars, how many dollar billionaires are made it's very negligible or close to none within or outside the country.. even with this attitude the country is nearing bankruptcy ?
He says Pakistanis have an attitude, Bhai bheek ke paiso ka ghamand hai when the country stops giving loan saara attitude tikane aa jayega
Pakistani trying for service based companies and companies now going for GCC. It's becoming harder for service based companies to get contracts
Let there be free and fair election first in Pakistan . Let army go back to barracks for Pakistan becoming a normal country.
Thereafter, talk about IT.
سر میری ایک درخواست ہے کہ اپ اپنے بات چیت کے دوران اردو کا استعمال زیادہ سے زیادہ کریں۔۔۔
Aur mere dost, apko bhi angraizi seekhna shuroo karni chahye.
My friend.i am not talking about myself,my comment for all those people who did not pick the key points from the whole conversation.yes I we know much better the English language is necessary but , Urdu to Urdu hay Na ..
@@kachrachi my friend we english is not our mother language. sometimes we are just listening it on background without watching you kuch words english k miss ho jatay hain istrah whole sentence ki smjh nahin ati. baki ye podcast bilkukl normal thi. koi ika duka word e koi sophisticated word bola hoga.
There is a cost of everything. Giving example of china , how about looking at other indicators regarding health , happiness etc ?
Brilliant Podcast. High quality content👏
Rightly pointed tax policy is not supporting IT growth. 👍
TRG k co-founder zia chishti k sath podcast karain wo it largest it exporter hain
India only services exports are more than 350 billion $
Hopefully 400 billion $ this year
Please interview with current caretaker IT Minister to update us with all his current and upcoming measures for IT sector.
To be honest, he's only doing cosmetics and upgrading his cv
he can't he hate dr umer saif bcz imran khan hates him
MashaAllah
Only came here to say that saif you're a iso 9001 certified knjr. 😊
Well, as I marked this guest, I could feel that he is not enlightened enough, because there are many surrounding and supporting factors that he ignored completely.
Could you please share those, so we all can know
At this point Ambani or Adani or the TATAs can buy the whole of Pakistan!!
Wow what a helpful comment. Do you also leave similar comments on Bangladesh and Sri Lanka forums? Or is this love only for Pakistan?
@@kachrachiThat was obviously on a funnier note, no actual harm intended
They really can't though
Ambani and Tata are intelligent they don't wana buy failed nation 😂
bahi log yeah guess ka peacha sofa pa koi betha ha ?
ye he mindset Pakistani elites ka. Indian Islia aage nai he because they are more educated more hardworking more skilled and honest but Islia aage he kyo ki sar jhuka ke kam karte he do thapad khaa Ke bhi kam karte! They even do not realise that how disgusting and disrespectful it is this is Pakistani elite! Just think about normal people!! Have they even seen Delhi gurugram noida UP ke boys jat Gujjars rajputs Brahmins Thakur reddy Sethi Anna rao Maratha Or Yadavs !!! nai dekhe innhone tabhi pathan pathan karte he! Indians sar bhi jhukate he Muslim pe jurm bhi karte he!
😂😂😂
Pathan diwana music lagake nachte rahenge😂😂😂
Maine programming seekhna Shuru kri hai Kya na krun. Main ,ai take over krlega agr 10 years Mai to faida Kya seekhne ka 10 years kahin or lagalun main isse acha
Bhai, choro yeh bate aur programming seekho,
dekho aisa nahi ha. when wordpress and wix appeared on the scene logo na kaha ab to ham bghair programming k websites bna sakte ha programming to farigh ha. But web devalopment is not SOFTWARE ENGENEERING. agar ap ko thora sa bhi programming ka knowledge ha to u know that programming is a small part, for most part u try to make the solution (website hmare case ma) more effecient for business. like for example web devalopment ma bohot sari programming languages ko use kar k websites bann sakti ha, kisi language sa fast websites banti ha , kisi language sa secure websites banti ha. Ap k business k liye kya suitable ha ya decide karna phir uss language k tools ko use karna ya SOFTWARE ENGENEERING ha. wix ya wordpress ap ko ya options nahi deti. AI to abhi bacha ha iss case ma. reply lengthy ho jy ga aur bhi bohot baate ha
our AI overlord will need shitty programmers to fix bots in the next decade, it's still safe to learn programming
Bhai agar nai pasand to na seekho. Kuch aur karo jakay
@@patricksavage242 mene ye nhi kaha ke mughe pasand nhi hai...
As an indian student i can easily live with 20$😂
Love from Burewala ❤️
Ahmed is overemphasizing the tax evasion problem it's not that big markets should be left alone to do their magic.
Need an episode on Doesai
Your views did really fell down. One of the reason is closing the Facebook community. Miss that.
Ahmad bhai talent interviews sy nahi milta nah he cv's ko AI sy filter kerny say, you have to make a talent
If you are talking about TCS they also hires diploma holders gives exposure to the software industry those who have passion stays and gets experience and moves on.if you talks about Pakistan software industry you will find greedy owners, politics, difficult hiring processes
very nice
Too many unemployed Indians in comment section
R u unemployed?
He used his 5 minute internet for today ..as no electricity in Pakistan now he will beg for 1 chappati for whole day 😂😂
A Podcast with Sahil adeem or Qaiser Ahmad raja
01:39:24 he looks disappointed 😂😂
His smile is so crippy
This guy is depressing, always paints a bleak picture
Pak people - pak zindabad
IT company - pak se zinda😂😂 bhag
Lets stop it bro.instead of trolling we should do somwthing productive.
Wow such an intellectual comment bro :)
@@chaitanyabhargava5131 cant expect from terrorist export nation
always backstab india
@@kachrachi same as pak people intellect
@@chaitanyabhargava5131plzz don't be apologetic,these ppl r all honey sweet ,bcz they r at the verge of collapse
Once they overcomes this ,the same anti bharat rhetoric will start
Till now,their is a huge support of ppl like hafiz,daud,in paxt..
Till now,aurangzeb is adored by the majority
All talk and no action
What a joke 😂😂😂