It's almost impossible to explain the vibe and excitement of that era. Hip Hop was so new, so ours; the young generation. It was understood and so misunderstood at the same time. It was such a shared universal experience. This was the time that you ran home from school to watch YO! MTV Raps because if you missed something it could be days before you saw it again. Hip Hop wasn't over-saturated at that point. It belonged to the youth, and not the capitalistic boardroom. This was also a time when uniqueness was prioritized, it was a mortal sin to "bite". I remember walking down Crenshaw Blvd hearing cars with the "booming system" playing NWA and the next car bumping A Tribe Called Quest. What a time to be alive. Thank you once again for your work, brotha!
The roots of Hip Hop go deeper than anyone can imagine, and the branches of the Hip Hop tree extend further than anyone ever expected. #LongLiveRealHipHop
This is good work bro. I hope I am not jumping to false conclusions, but this was my generation and it seems like you're much younger. I say that to say I'm inspired by your videos because you have been able to put things together and capture the vibes of the movements in the culture with a real understanding and appreciation that is rare and difficult to obtain. Thanks bro this is important work this culture goes deep.
Dope vid. I think the only affiliates you missed was Science of Sound. They were dudes from Brooklyn connected to ATCQ. They released one album in 1995 called Kaleidoscope Phonetics. Keep the content coming brother.
Your videos are excellent, I’m shocked at your subscriber count but only a matter of time before it blows up. Love the research and narratives you write, keep on.
Great as always. Thanks for putting these together. Have been watching since I first the Rawkus video. Love these classic artists. Would be interesting to see some more 80s stuff.
First of all you put a great video together here. I went back to make sure and sure enough you did include Prince Paul. IIt was towards the end when a started thinking that I didn’t here Prince Paul. There members that I had no idea were members. Now I have a question for you and there’s no wrong answer but it’s difficult and unfair giving an answer. This might help. When you finish reading the following question what’s the first thing you thought of? Out of all the Native Tongue’s Albums that you’ve listened to which is your favorite? I’ve asked this question before to 3 maybe 4 others and the 3 that I definitely know I asked all were different but they were all Tier 1 and they were also the first or second album released by the respective group. Which makes some sense because they had a different thing going on. Plus we’ve listen to those albums longer. I have mine. I going to hold off telling you in the unlikely event that it influences you. You know your sh!t about native tongue and the importance certain albums had. For example, The Empire Strikes Back is my favorite Star Wars movie but Star Wars is my favorite movie. It’s my favorite because there wouldn’t be an Empire Strikes Back if Star Wars sucked. I could go on. See being Irish we don’t know the meaning of a short story. I look forward to your answer. New subscriber. I don’t know who you’ve covered in your other videos but I’d say checkout Kool Keith. I just learned he has over 100 albums. Alright have a good one.
Not a Tier 6 but it would've been awesome to hear that KMD was with them especially since Zev Love X (MF DOOM) collabed with De La Soul, a joint mix with J Dilla posthumously (song: Gazillion Ear), and seemed to have bumped into Q-Tip and a couple ATCQ members around that scene - even made a song with Brand Nubian on their early KMD album called Mr. Hood. They definitely fit the style and were lyrically ill and afrocentric so I can see them being apart of Native Tongue.....just on the Far side (get it? Haha)
Trugoy said the people made the Native Tounges this big thing. It was never suppose to be a big group thing. They just were a group of kids that were all in the studio together and they made a song. Native Tounges only stem from One song and that's the Buddy Remix. The original Buddy song is Just Dela Soul.... But everyone you named in the video did collaborate on each others songs and projects.
Thank you for constant working! As I remember, you were going to make a video about Del the Funky Homosapien, so I decided to ask if you can include brief stories of artists affiliated with him? For example, I guess you will probably mention Hieroglyphics in the video, but could you also tell something about Souls of Mischief members, because there's not that much information about them on the net. Maybe you can dig it? Just a suggestion, maybe a separate video about SOM would even be better, if you don't mind. Once again, thank you, and a Happy New Year!
That’s a cool idea. I definitely plan on doing vids on both Del and Souls of Mischief (and possibly Heiro as a whole too) so hopefully I’ll be able to get some good stuff in those vids for you
Hey, you think it would be possible to do a vid like this on what I believe is the crew Latifah affiliated herself with afterwards, The Flavor Unit? That was a comparable collective to NT skill wise. Along with Latifah there was, The 45 King, Apache, Lakim Shabazz, Channel Live, Freddie Foxxx, Naughty By Nature, Rottin Razkals, Latee, Nikki D & one of the most underrated MCs Chill Rob G. That would be dope.
i applaud the research good work, a few key facts missed jungle/Tribe both went to Murry B high school in nyc where they met JBs older ..on that 1988 album.. They introduced Q Tiip from a Tribe
Ima need that freestyle fellowship history video, can't just name drop the best West Coast group of all time and walk away. Inner city griots is top 5 hip hop albums ever and aceyalone accepted eclectic is phenomenal
Gratitude Ps I was blessed to see De La at Bottle Rock in Napa Ca, And no Maseo wasn't there however Phife was backstage. Buhloone Mindstate was the first Native Tongues album I bought. It took a while for me to check the first amazing Jungle Brothers album, I checked it out from The Berkeley Public Library. I just revisited It'soweeze video and damn near every Native Tounge was in that video. Pps The Dungeon Fam . Too bad that Tribe and Outkast album didnt happen.
Here are some groups who I think sound like NT but are not exactly NT: KMD- I left a comment about this group but to sum it up it started MF DOOM. Two Kings in a Cipher- A little more hardcore but still embrace the Afrocentricity of the NT, and it also started D-Dot Angellite and Amen-Ra's careers, who would later on produce for Bad Boy Records. Original Flavor- This group fully sounds like NT except without much Afrocentricity, but their album "This is how it is" is a fun and good listen for NT fans. Pete Rock & CL Smooth- To me they encompass everything that made NT so good and succesful and a great listen as well. Main Source- They are a little more hardcore but they still have the NT vibe. Freestyle Fellowship- West Coast group that strayed away from the more gangster type of rap popular in the coast at that time The UMCs- Amazing and seriously underated and they exactly sound like NT. Dream Warriors- Canada group who had a De La Soul vibe to their music. Organized Konfusion- Only talking about their first album but they did collaborate with Q-Tip on "Lets Organize" of of their second album. Del tha Funkee Homosapian- Not nessacarly a group but "I Wish My Brother George" sounds like NT with some West Coast flair. Yaggfu Front- From North Carolina but still has the fun NT style to it. Thats all I have, so hopefully this helps you guys out, and Def, could you please pin this for others to see incase they want to check out some NT-Sounding music?
Cool video. Watched a few others and think you have some ways to go and I respect it. From a side note, Queen Latifah had her own crew, so I don't think she would have every been a heavily involved with them as she was with the Flava Unit. I think including Brand Nubian might have not been valid enough (although I would love to hear the story of why they had issues with Tip). Mentioning Mos Def, instead of Brand Nubian, might have made more sense? but I could be wrong on that. I Think you're missing a member of LONS that might have been worth just showing his picture (my assumption is you got the headshots from the Midnight Marauders cover)
I wish they would have added Outkast at least as the South affiliate. But a tier 6 should definitely include Coast Contra. Especially for the fact they have been compared to both Tribe and Leaders
Pos, Tip, Jarobi, Busta and maybe some new cats like Ab-Soul, Tobe Nwigwe, Killer Mike, Black Star? Could bring back the Native Tongues brand as a real group and be a fresh force for modern Hip Hop.
Digital Undergound (Tupac’s original breakout crew) was also sometimes affiliated with the Tongues. Another West Coast subsidiary. Lyrically much more raunchy than their east coast counterparts, they shared the feel-good, jazzy vibes and Afrocentric garb. Thanks to Shock G aka Humpty (RIP)
Lucien produced classics in the french hiphop field. you have to dig deeper. he's not that much of a mystery. he can rhyme in both languages. did score for cartoons film etc... i just scratch the surface here. Peace.
What about KMD? They were affiliated but not quite members. MF DOOM used to go by Zev Love X and featured on fellow Native Tounge Memebrs Brand Nubian and Leaders of the New School, and if you are going to mention those 2 groups, atleast remember KMD.
KMD definitely should be considered NT too, good call! For this video I was just going off of who the core members (Tribe, De La, and Jungle) have said are in it specifically in interviews
Thanks for replying, I understand they never flat out stated that KMD were members, but Mr. Hood sounds like NT to me and they were atleast affliated. Fun Fact: on "8 Million Stories" from Midnight Mauraders, Tribe shouts out DJ Subroc, who was a member, so to me they were affiliates at some point.
Violator was Chris Lighty's management company. He managed some of the Natives. Such as, Tip, Busta, Chi-Ali & The Beatnuts. Also managed, LL Cool J, CRU, Fat Joe, Cormega, Mobb Deep & Missy Elliot. Among Others.
It's almost impossible to explain the vibe and excitement of that era. Hip Hop was so new, so ours; the young generation. It was understood and so misunderstood at the same time. It was such a shared universal experience. This was the time that you ran home from school to watch YO! MTV Raps because if you missed something it could be days before you saw it again. Hip Hop wasn't over-saturated at that point. It belonged to the youth, and not the capitalistic boardroom. This was also a time when uniqueness was prioritized, it was a mortal sin to "bite". I remember walking down Crenshaw Blvd hearing cars with the "booming system" playing NWA and the next car bumping A Tribe Called Quest. What a time to be alive. Thank you once again for your work, brotha!
Well said, thanks for the write up!
Facts
Pretty accurate assessment 🙌🏿💯🤘🏿
@@terrancewoods478 Thanks!
No it isn't!
Tier 6 is everyone. Every fan. Every person that loves hip hop. Everyone who genuinely believes in unity and appreciates good vibes.
Best collective of all time imo. Jungle Brothers very underrated.
The Whole Native Tongues Moment Is So Dope, It's Ridiculous
Love the late '80s/early '90s style of the video! Evokes the time when I first fell in love with HipHop as a lil kid...
I am hella happy that you mentioned the Beatnuts cause everyone leaves them out.
The roots of Hip Hop go deeper than anyone can imagine, and the branches of the Hip Hop tree extend further than anyone ever expected.
#LongLiveRealHipHop
This is good work bro. I hope I am not jumping to false conclusions, but this was my generation and it seems like you're much younger. I say that to say I'm inspired by your videos because you have been able to put things together and capture the vibes of the movements in the culture with a real understanding and appreciation that is rare and difficult to obtain. Thanks bro this is important work this culture goes deep.
I appreciate that thank you!
Another beautifully put together piece, thank you. For me, two artists who encapsulate that NT spirit are Little Simz and Sampa the Great.
I agree! Hip hop is in good hands with those two
I just realized when it comes to 80s albums heavy on samples and skits, we criminally overlook "Paul's Boutique, which also dropped in '89...
Classic
this video is so well-researched, you put me onto so many new artists, man!
Dope!! Thank you for watching, I'm glad to put you on to some great music
@@DefGoldbloom i'd love to hear a doc about hieroglyphics from you. got into them cus of your del the funky homosapien vid!
Dope, love from France 🇨🇵
Peace!
Very appreciated lil documentary 👍 despite big names like BDK, Rakim, Ice - T, Native Tongues were BIG powerhouses with in the "golden era" of rap!
You always cover the good shit... 👍
Dope vid. I think the only affiliates you missed was Science of Sound. They were dudes from Brooklyn connected to ATCQ. They released one album in 1995 called Kaleidoscope Phonetics. Keep the content coming brother.
SoS is dope!!!
Listen, you even teach my old head ass some things. Love this channel! 😊
Great video! I will check out the Queen Latifah, Chi-Ali, and Bush Babees albums.
Very impressed with your break down of tiers good job man
Thank you
Do a video about the soulquarians
You did your research. You never fail to disappoint when you drop a vid! Keep it up brother.
Thanks! Will do!
@@DefGoldbloom I meant to say that you NEVER DISAPPOINT. My bad. Can’t wait for the next video.
Look forward to your content in 2023.. peace
Peace, happy new year!
Another GREAT min documentary 🔥
Much appreciated!
Buddy is such a classic🙌🏾
This was so awesome 🙏🏽❤️😊
Little Brother would definitely be in that next tier.
Your videos are excellent, I’m shocked at your subscriber count but only a matter of time before it blows up. Love the research and narratives you write, keep on.
I appreciate that, thank you!
New year. Man. And love video. Native tongue. Dope group
Happy new year!
Great as always. Thanks for putting these together. Have been watching since I first the Rawkus video. Love these classic artists. Would be interesting to see some more 80s stuff.
Glad you enjoyed it, definitely more 80's artists being covered in 2023!
Sorry i'm late! Support from China!
Educated man, from the motherland. That’s it right there. That’s the beginning & the end of it.
Big fan of these videos you do! It would fun to see video about Freestyle Fellowship and others involved in that movement.
I definitely hope on doing a Freestyle Fellowship video at some point this year!
First of all you put a great video together here. I went back to make sure and sure enough you did include Prince Paul. IIt was towards the end when a started thinking that I didn’t here Prince Paul.
There members that I had no idea were members.
Now I have a question for you and there’s no wrong answer but it’s difficult and unfair giving an answer.
This might help.
When you finish reading the following question what’s the first thing you thought of?
Out of all the Native Tongue’s Albums that you’ve listened to which is your favorite?
I’ve asked this question before to 3 maybe 4 others and the 3 that I definitely know I asked all were different but they were all Tier 1 and they were also the first or second album released by the respective group. Which makes some sense because they had a different thing going on. Plus we’ve listen to those albums longer.
I have mine. I going to hold off telling you in the unlikely event that it influences you.
You know your sh!t about native tongue and the importance certain albums had.
For example, The Empire Strikes Back is my favorite Star Wars movie but Star Wars is my favorite movie. It’s my favorite because there wouldn’t be an Empire Strikes Back if Star Wars sucked.
I could go on.
See being Irish we don’t know the meaning of a short story.
I look forward to your answer.
New subscriber.
I don’t know who you’ve covered in your other videos but I’d say checkout Kool Keith. I just learned he has over 100 albums.
Alright have a good one.
Not a Tier 6 but it would've been awesome to hear that KMD was with them especially since Zev Love X (MF DOOM) collabed with De La Soul, a joint mix with J Dilla posthumously (song: Gazillion Ear), and seemed to have bumped into Q-Tip and a couple ATCQ members around that scene - even made a song with Brand Nubian on their early KMD album called Mr. Hood. They definitely fit the style and were lyrically ill and afrocentric so I can see them being apart of Native Tongue.....just on the Far side (get it? Haha)
Great video!!! Very informative.
Great video
insane how i thought i new everything about hiphop until i found yo account, i know alot of what you kickin' but most of this is knowledge. blessings
I appreciate that!
Great way to end the year, one of my fav hip-hop movements ever
Peace to The Native Tounges.
8:45 correct and actually one of the songs for them was supposed to be “saturdays”but Pos took it back
Trugoy said the people made the Native Tounges this big thing. It was never suppose to be a big group thing. They just were a group of kids that were all in the studio together and they made a song. Native Tounges only stem from One song and that's the Buddy Remix. The original Buddy song is Just Dela Soul.... But everyone you named in the video did collaborate on each others songs and projects.
Love it! That's my era. Thank you so much for making this video. Much love!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for tha video
LEGENDARY video. For me Rae Khalil can be in the next generation of the NATIVE TONGUE
What a way to end the year!! Amazing work my man. Have a fantastic new year 🎉
Thanks! You too!
Thank you for constant working! As I remember, you were going to make a video about Del the Funky Homosapien, so I decided to ask if you can include brief stories of artists affiliated with him? For example, I guess you will probably mention Hieroglyphics in the video, but could you also tell something about Souls of Mischief members, because there's not that much information about them on the net. Maybe you can dig it? Just a suggestion, maybe a separate video about SOM would even be better, if you don't mind.
Once again, thank you, and a Happy New Year!
That’s a cool idea. I definitely plan on doing vids on both Del and Souls of Mischief (and possibly Heiro as a whole too) so hopefully I’ll be able to get some good stuff in those vids for you
There's an official Souls of Mischief documentary called Till Infinity that is worth seeing if you're interested in their story.
Excellent vidEO man. Knowledge iNdeed. Always looking for more info from the Native Tongues✊🏽✊🏽
Digging the new format btw. Even more of an improvement 👌🏾👌🏾
Thank you!! Glad you enjoying it
legendary
quality video mate
Thanks homie!
I can see the Native Tongues influence in the Beast Coast movement with Pro Era, Flatbush Zombies, The Underachievers, and A$AP Mob
this is an insanely well made video
Thank you!!
Hey, you think it would be possible to do a vid like this on what I believe is the crew Latifah affiliated herself with afterwards, The Flavor Unit? That was a comparable collective to NT skill wise. Along with Latifah there was, The 45 King, Apache, Lakim Shabazz, Channel Live, Freddie Foxxx, Naughty By Nature, Rottin Razkals, Latee, Nikki D & one of the most underrated MCs Chill Rob G. That would be dope.
That’s a great idea. Got a lot of things I want to cover first but not opposed to a Flavor Unit video down the line
@DefGoldbloom Word. Appreciate it. Love your content, bro. Keep em coming.
i applaud the research good work, a few key facts missed jungle/Tribe both went to Murry B high school in nyc where they met JBs older ..on that 1988 album.. They introduced Q Tiip from a Tribe
Dope! Good to know
dope work bro, greetings from brazil, keep it up
Appreciate it!
I forgot the name of the Everlast song ( his first single lol ) you used for the beat . Nice video though
Next gen following where the last tier left off would have been perfect with Slum Village & Little Brother
Great choices
Ima need that freestyle fellowship history video, can't just name drop the best West Coast group of all time and walk away. Inner city griots is top 5 hip hop albums ever and aceyalone accepted eclectic is phenomenal
Freestyle Fellowship video later this year!
You are a sunshine man
Gratitude
Ps I was blessed to see De La at Bottle Rock in Napa Ca, And no Maseo wasn't there however Phife was backstage. Buhloone Mindstate was the first Native Tongues album I bought. It took a while for me to check the first amazing Jungle Brothers album, I checked it out from The Berkeley Public Library. I just revisited It'soweeze video and damn near every Native Tounge was in that video.
Pps The Dungeon Fam . Too bad that Tribe and Outkast album didnt happen.
Right on time 💜 Happy new year Sir
To you as well 🎉
Here are some groups who I think sound like NT but are not exactly NT:
KMD- I left a comment about this group but to sum it up it started MF DOOM.
Two Kings in a Cipher- A little more hardcore but still embrace the Afrocentricity of the NT, and it also started D-Dot Angellite and Amen-Ra's careers, who would later on produce for Bad Boy Records.
Original Flavor- This group fully sounds like NT except without much Afrocentricity, but their album "This is how it is" is a fun and good listen for NT fans.
Pete Rock & CL Smooth- To me they encompass everything that made NT so good and succesful and a great listen as well.
Main Source- They are a little more hardcore but they still have the NT vibe.
Freestyle Fellowship- West Coast group that strayed away from the more gangster type of rap popular in the coast at that time
The UMCs- Amazing and seriously underated and they exactly sound like NT.
Dream Warriors- Canada group who had a De La Soul vibe to their music.
Organized Konfusion- Only talking about their first album but they did collaborate with Q-Tip on "Lets Organize" of of their second album.
Del tha Funkee Homosapian- Not nessacarly a group but "I Wish My Brother George" sounds like NT with some West Coast flair.
Yaggfu Front- From North Carolina but still has the fun NT style to it.
Thats all I have, so hopefully this helps you guys out, and Def, could you please pin this for others to see incase they want to check out some NT-Sounding music?
Cool video. Watched a few others and think you have some ways to go and I respect it. From a side note, Queen Latifah had her own crew, so I don't think she would have every been a heavily involved with them as she was with the Flava Unit. I think including Brand Nubian might have not been valid enough (although I would love to hear the story of why they had issues with Tip). Mentioning Mos Def, instead of Brand Nubian, might have made more sense? but I could be wrong on that. I Think you're missing a member of LONS that might have been worth just showing his picture (my assumption is you got the headshots from the Midnight Marauders cover)
I wish they would have added Outkast at least as the South affiliate. But a tier 6 should definitely include Coast Contra. Especially for the fact they have been compared to both Tribe and Leaders
This was dope but you didn't include Slum Village
Pos, Tip, Jarobi, Busta and maybe some new cats like Ab-Soul, Tobe Nwigwe, Killer Mike, Black Star? Could bring back the Native Tongues brand as a real group and be a fresh force for modern Hip Hop.
Thing is this all bleeds into 3rd bass and NOT ONLY WHAT THEY WERE DOING ...but nas and so on...HAD NO IDEA MC SERCH BASICALLY FOUND NAS
Digital Undergound (Tupac’s original breakout crew) was also sometimes affiliated with the Tongues. Another West Coast subsidiary. Lyrically much more raunchy than their east coast counterparts, they shared the feel-good, jazzy vibes and Afrocentric garb. Thanks to Shock G aka Humpty (RIP)
That’s a great call!
@@DefGoldbloom hey still a great vid nonetheless. Keep ‘em comin!
What about Arrested Development?
They definitely are in the Native Tongues mix as well! Just didn't have too many collabs with other NT embers that I could mention
Damn .....Consequence cant get on a Tier. Back in the day i thought he was in a tribe called quest for a little bit.
Good call, he definitely deserves it
9:00 - 10:50 what's the name of the song???
There are like 5 Senerio versions..on RUclips
What's the instrumental playing on minute 5:00?
That ones not on streaming yet but the producer got tons of heat here open.spotify.com/artist/4Dgx4fwX106SbJsIxsJG6L?si=NUIdUVCmR3-vkrHCV3k_tw
@@DefGoldbloom what’s the songs name
RIP TRUGOY
🕊
The Roots??????....... they did a song with Q tip on the IILLADELPH HALFLIFE album
Tier 6 Black Star, Roots
Lucien produced classics in the french hiphop field. you have to dig deeper. he's not that much of a mystery. he can rhyme in both languages. did score for cartoons film etc... i just scratch the surface here. Peace.
RIP Chris Lighty!! RIP Trugoy!! #Violator #PlugTwo
What about KMD? They were affiliated but not quite members. MF DOOM used to go by Zev Love X and featured on fellow Native Tounge Memebrs Brand Nubian and Leaders of the New School, and if you are going to mention those 2 groups, atleast remember KMD.
KMD definitely should be considered NT too, good call! For this video I was just going off of who the core members (Tribe, De La, and Jungle) have said are in it specifically in interviews
Thanks for replying, I understand they never flat out stated that KMD were members, but Mr. Hood sounds like NT to me and they were atleast affliated. Fun Fact: on "8 Million Stories" from Midnight Mauraders, Tribe shouts out DJ Subroc, who was a member, so to me they were affiliates at some point.
But who exactly are “The Violators?!” Can’t find any information on them. Mentioned in 3 feet High and Rising’s “Biddies in the BK Lounge”.
Violator was Chris Lighty's management company. He managed some of the Natives. Such as, Tip, Busta, Chi-Ali & The Beatnuts. Also managed, LL Cool J, CRU, Fat Joe, Cormega, Mobb Deep & Missy Elliot. Among Others.
Kanye 2022 = Nieve Tongue
💨🍜💨🍜💨🍜
Quest Love said him and D'Angelo started SoulQuarians.. 🤔
One word:
Movement
Kanye West has never nor will ever be a native tongue act
Dope vid as always!
🔥🔥🔥🎵🎶🎶🎤💯👍🏾