2:04 it was never said that no one ate luffy's fruit for 800 years. When luffy got gear 5, the five elders said that no one had managed to awaken the fruit for 800 years which would imply that someone had indeed eaten it.
No... Just no. Shanks stole the fruit from the world government as it was being transported by the navy under the guard of who's who as clearly and plainly stated in the manga and the anime both. There is no discrepancy that would allow this poorly written theory to be true. Your baseless eye patch claim has way more merit to it and to be honest that's not much... This was nothing but a poorly written theory by a casual know nothing.
Interesting theory. If that's true, then perhaps it would be Loki who tells Luffy what his Devil Fruit really is & why Shanks wasn't honest with him in the 1st place?
Maybe,Luffy would need to go into Gear 5 around Loki for Loki to know Luffy is the Sun God not him, but oda might make it so luffy wont go into gear 5 around Loki for a bit(like how he did with bonney) so that when Loki transforms into his fire logia/zoan form Loki will think hes the real deal with a firery Gear 5 look(i can only picture it as a logia) till the right time he realizes he aint the true sun god
Too bad its not... We know where shanks got the fruit it was a navy ship with who's who guarding it. This is nothing but click bait by someone who doesn't read or apparently even pay that much attention when watching the anime. I know wano was a long arc and i can understand how a casual viewer might miss it but there is no excuse for not knowing this if your job is to talk about one piece as it is the entire reason for who's who being a beast pirate in the first place.
As mysterious as it is.Its still too early to judge the character and knowing ODA,loki might still turn out to not be evil.As we have all known him to be a troll and likes to swindle us his fan base
People casually saying he could still be good baffles me considering it took all the giants to restrain him. And he killed his father 💀💀 but ayy anything is possible
He's a few critisms, which end up not mattering As someone else said, no one had awakened the nika fruit Doesnt mean people havent eaten it But this might just mean, the previous kings ate it to show they are king, and when they die, the next king takes the fruit Which is why 1. Loki eating it was a crime and 2. Why Loki killed their father So therefore, doesnt affect your theory "Stealing" devil fruits isnt nessisary Since when a devil fruit user, a nearby fruit turns into the devil fruit again so when the previous devil fruit user dies on elbaf, the devil fruit will reappear on elbaf So they dont need to be smart and "steal" devil fruits They may not even know it needs to be a nearby fruit Since if every previous user died on elbaf, they may have assumed it will always appear on elbaf How did the navy steal it? Well, if loki did the murder off the island The fruit would have reappeared at a nearby island Navy could have found it like that (Since they actually know how devil fruits work, and after hearing of the giant king's death, they would have started the search nearby) And since loki may have mistakenly assumed the devil fruit would have appeared on elbaf again He probably went back to elbaf He probably ended up eating a different fruit by mistake And since 1. theres no turning back, and 2. no nika fruit has been found since the murder People may have assumed he indeed the ate the nika fruit And loki, being based on the trickster god, probably is fine with the misunderstanding Especially if the fruit he has is destructive anyway And back to how shanks stole it from the navy Considering the navy searched the nearby islands of the murder, shanks probably did the same But to avoid his lower crew getting captured, only the core crew had gone Meaning, the navy had a better search party. and found it first But since shanks had his core crew with him, stealing it from a highly guarded navy ship, shouldnt be impossible Now, the only concern left is What devil fruit did loki eat? It needs to fulfil 4 requirements to be acceptable 1. It needs to be powerful enough to actually destroy the world (Even if he is "good", i dont think this is a lie, and loki truely believes he'll destroy the world) 2. It needs to have a powerset that will trick others into believeing it is the devil fruit 3. The devil fruit must have been on elbaf (the only logical way is, if the previous user died, trying to get on the island, probably had their ship shink) 4. Very similar to either point 1 or 2, it must be powerful enough to challenge luffy Point 3, is just a technicallity, and doesnt affect much, but will probably need to be explained A few ideas what the fruit could be An illusion based power, which fills point 2 & 4 (just needs to trick luffy into it being a difficult fight) The Sun Sun fruit (basically ace's devil fruit, but larger radius, and slightly more powerfu, almost as strong as akainu's magma fruit, and some abilities of kizaru's light fruit) Any powerful fruit, may fail condition 2, but if loki was chained up before using the power (in sea stone), then no one, including him, would know its not the fruit
Ok, that's a long analysis, but you missed one major point. The Hito Hito no Mi (Gomu Gomu no Mi[) devil fruit grants the user's body the properties of rubber, effectively making them a Rubber Human. So if his father, the king, was a user of that devil fruit, everyone would know his body was made of rubber. Now, since he died, his son Loki obtained and ate a devil that he thinks is the Gomu. I'm sure he ate the wrong devil fruit, but why does he still believe it's the Hito Hito no Mi when his body didn't transfer into rubber? Hence, I don't think his father was a rubber man.
Wouldn’t it be who’s who took the fruit from loki? Since shanks took it from who’s who Edit: i am anti nika fruit. Kalifa and kaku’s fruits weren’t in the encyclopeida. Are their’s mythical zoans too?? At the end of the day ima believe the only person to eat the gomu in 800 years rather than a bunch of old guys, that you even said yourself, have never even had the fruit 2nd edit: LOKI IS EASY TO STOP?????? It literally took EVERY giant warrior on elbaf to stop him!! What’re you on about ??? 3rd edit: my take is shanks showed us in elbaf he has haki comparable to joyboy’s haki. Joyboy’s knot ONLY targeted enemies on egghead and shank’s wifi haki in wano only targeted greenbull and didn’t effect yamato or momo. So when shanks pulls up on them i think he could basically 1v5 the gorosei so they have no choice but to at least give him an audience
I believe that IMU has red hair! We all hyped up garling.. but I think ODA is saving imu reveal because he or she will have red hair and either be shanks mother/father!! If imu has direct communication with Figarland Garling then why wouldn’t it have the same communication with shanks?? Either that or IMU’s servant that was wearing the straw hat in the reverie scene is shanks sister!! The STRAW HAT is a significant part of this story!!
you're theory contradicts with the episode where shanks stole the fruit from the world government and whos who was the one tasked to guard it since it was guarded by the government Loki's devil fruit will be different
I found it really strange that hyrodoin never seemed to have a genuinely cheerful spirit when encountering Luffy or the strawhats!.... Even at the grand fleet toast he didn't have the normally cheerful spirit of the other giants. Then if you contrast that with this negative image we we've given of Loki for the past 20 or so despite now seeing a different side of Loki (like with Zebek), and Luffy taking a special liking to him; it shows that there's something off about Loki and Hyrodins backstory that's not clear ( which I do think Hyrodin can be revealed as a traitor to the strawhats and his kingdom.. Also I don't believe Luffy freeing Loki will be the end of the world but I do think some how Loki was blackmailed in the death of his father and it was actually hyrodoin (who possibly could have worked along with shanks and a fleet of navy soldiers to assist Hyrodin in killing his father and taking the throne)! But Shanks knowing about the significance of that devil fruits (Nika devil fruit), took up the offer only to steal it later from the cifer pol agents because he tailed them after they left Elbaph!!🤷🏿♂️ And when it comes to why Loki could believe he is the sun god, I think given the proximity to EGGHEAD and Dr Vegapunk who created the smile fruits; it could be the case that after imprisoning Loki for the death of his father, Hyrodin tricked Loki with the smile fruit to replace the gum gum/ Nika fruit: making him think he ate the Nika fruit! That's perhaps why he say " if he is freed, he'll end the world (because it's his belief that he ate the fruit and only because of the chains is why the world still exists); pointing to what he would do with that power!! ITS A REALLY FUNNY MOMENT IF DOESN'T HAVE THE NIKA FRUIT AND ACTUAL ATE A SMILE FRUIT THINK HE'S THE SUN GOD WITH THOSE BANDAGES OVER HIS EYES😂😂😂😂😂 BUT WE'LL SEE
I cant imagine cipher pol stealing the nika fruit from elbaph and the giants not retaliate(even the rocks pirates retaliated when they was robbed by the WG) or cipher pol do a fruit switcheroo and only shanks knew bout the switch, so this theory is unlikely to me Loki seems Ace coded to me so perhaps hes another fire logia user, user of the plasma plasma fruit
i like your theory and every of your theories until now......but they say that maybe.....the person that was with gorosei maybe was shanks twin brother but who knows?🤷♂🤷♂🤷♂im looking foward for the next chapters!!!
How are YT daying shanks stole the devil fruit this person aint even the first one it was already stated how shanks got the fruit and in the manga loki killed his dad for it cone up with a better vid jesus
Shanks got the nika fruit from a navy ship not from loki
He literally said this 😂
But can you tell us where the navy got it from?
Watch the full video damit
@@Goodies733 Knowing that the title is just clickbait, nah I'm good thanks though!
@@Goodies733 not gonna watch a video thats just cap
2:04 it was never said that no one ate luffy's fruit for 800 years. When luffy got gear 5, the five elders said that no one had managed to awaken the fruit for 800 years which would imply that someone had indeed eaten it.
3.38 bro forgot about Morley from revolutionary having a devil fruit😅😅😅
San Juan wolf also
@@GolmaDamai is he from giant race... I mean his devil is itself is huge huge no mi
@@sajidrocker yes he is a giant with huge huge fruit
Loki has some fruit related to RAGNAROK and by destroying the world he means world gov
Also I think Loki is the eyepatch pirate oda was talking about
you might be onto something
imo it is not eyepatch but somehow reducing loki vision also reduce his power to use this legendary fruit.
@@michaothaniel7409zoro been doing it for years and seems to manage fine im sure loki will be fine with an eye patch
No... Just no. Shanks stole the fruit from the world government as it was being transported by the navy under the guard of who's who as clearly and plainly stated in the manga and the anime both. There is no discrepancy that would allow this poorly written theory to be true. Your baseless eye patch claim has way more merit to it and to be honest that's not much... This was nothing but a poorly written theory by a casual know nothing.
Interesting theory. If that's true, then perhaps it would be Loki who tells Luffy what his Devil Fruit really is & why Shanks wasn't honest with him in the 1st place?
You think Shanks needed Luffy to know about the Hito Hito no mi model Nika.
Maybe,Luffy would need to go into Gear 5 around Loki for Loki to know Luffy is the Sun God not him, but oda might make it so luffy wont go into gear 5 around Loki for a bit(like how he did with bonney) so that when Loki transforms into his fire logia/zoan form Loki will think hes the real deal with a firery Gear 5 look(i can only picture it as a logia) till the right time he realizes he aint the true sun god
Too bad its not... We know where shanks got the fruit it was a navy ship with who's who guarding it. This is nothing but click bait by someone who doesn't read or apparently even pay that much attention when watching the anime. I know wano was a long arc and i can understand how a casual viewer might miss it but there is no excuse for not knowing this if your job is to talk about one piece as it is the entire reason for who's who being a beast pirate in the first place.
The mended horn is such a wholesome observation
As mysterious as it is.Its still too early to judge the character and knowing ODA,loki might still turn out to not be evil.As we have all known him to be a troll and likes to swindle us his fan base
Duuuuude this channel is so good. So underrated!
Nahhhh I want Lowki to be top floor boss 💀 nottt an Ally
People casually saying he could still be good baffles me considering it took all the giants to restrain him. And he killed his father 💀💀 but ayy anything is possible
Loki is not the first giant known to have Fruit, San Juan Wolf and Morley both have fruits.
He's a few critisms, which end up not mattering
As someone else said, no one had awakened the nika fruit
Doesnt mean people havent eaten it
But this might just mean, the previous kings ate it to show they are king, and when they die, the next king takes the fruit
Which is why 1. Loki eating it was a crime and 2. Why Loki killed their father
So therefore, doesnt affect your theory
"Stealing" devil fruits isnt nessisary
Since when a devil fruit user, a nearby fruit turns into the devil fruit again
so when the previous devil fruit user dies on elbaf, the devil fruit will reappear on elbaf
So they dont need to be smart and "steal" devil fruits
They may not even know it needs to be a nearby fruit
Since if every previous user died on elbaf, they may have assumed it will always appear on elbaf
How did the navy steal it?
Well, if loki did the murder off the island
The fruit would have reappeared at a nearby island
Navy could have found it like that
(Since they actually know how devil fruits work, and after hearing of the giant king's death, they would have started the search nearby)
And since loki may have mistakenly assumed the devil fruit would have appeared on elbaf again
He probably went back to elbaf
He probably ended up eating a different fruit by mistake
And since 1. theres no turning back, and 2. no nika fruit has been found since the murder
People may have assumed he indeed the ate the nika fruit
And loki, being based on the trickster god, probably is fine with the misunderstanding
Especially if the fruit he has is destructive anyway
And back to how shanks stole it from the navy
Considering the navy searched the nearby islands of the murder, shanks probably did the same
But to avoid his lower crew getting captured, only the core crew had gone
Meaning, the navy had a better search party. and found it first
But since shanks had his core crew with him, stealing it from a highly guarded navy ship, shouldnt be impossible
Now, the only concern left is
What devil fruit did loki eat?
It needs to fulfil 4 requirements to be acceptable
1. It needs to be powerful enough to actually destroy the world (Even if he is "good", i dont think this is a lie, and loki truely believes he'll destroy the world)
2. It needs to have a powerset that will trick others into believeing it is the devil fruit
3. The devil fruit must have been on elbaf (the only logical way is, if the previous user died, trying to get on the island, probably had their ship shink)
4. Very similar to either point 1 or 2, it must be powerful enough to challenge luffy
Point 3, is just a technicallity, and doesnt affect much, but will probably need to be explained
A few ideas what the fruit could be
An illusion based power, which fills point 2 & 4 (just needs to trick luffy into it being a difficult fight)
The Sun Sun fruit (basically ace's devil fruit, but larger radius, and slightly more powerfu, almost as strong as akainu's magma fruit, and some abilities of kizaru's light fruit)
Any powerful fruit, may fail condition 2, but if loki was chained up before using the power (in sea stone), then no one, including him, would know its not the fruit
Ok, that's a long analysis, but you missed one major point. The Hito Hito no Mi (Gomu Gomu no Mi[) devil fruit grants the user's body the properties of rubber, effectively making them a Rubber Human. So if his father, the king, was a user of that devil fruit, everyone would know his body was made of rubber. Now, since he died, his son Loki obtained and ate a devil that he thinks is the Gomu. I'm sure he ate the wrong devil fruit, but why does he still believe it's the Hito Hito no Mi when his body didn't transfer into rubber? Hence, I don't think his father was a rubber man.
Makes sense, in the closing scene of Ep.885 we see Imu opening a vault with a Giant straw hat in it.
Wouldn’t it be who’s who took the fruit from loki? Since shanks took it from who’s who
Edit: i am anti nika fruit. Kalifa and kaku’s fruits weren’t in the encyclopeida. Are their’s mythical zoans too?? At the end of the day ima believe the only person to eat the gomu in 800 years rather than a bunch of old guys, that you even said yourself, have never even had the fruit
2nd edit: LOKI IS EASY TO STOP?????? It literally took EVERY giant warrior on elbaf to stop him!! What’re you on about ???
3rd edit: my take is shanks showed us in elbaf he has haki comparable to joyboy’s haki. Joyboy’s knot ONLY targeted enemies on egghead and shank’s wifi haki in wano only targeted greenbull and didn’t effect yamato or momo. So when shanks pulls up on them i think he could basically 1v5 the gorosei so they have no choice but to at least give him an audience
3:01 literally GLRs entire comment section
Roronoa Zoro! Vs Shanks WHEN?!??
I've watched theories from different channels but this man delivered wow 😲
Watched 4 times
Shanks stole the fruit from who’s who
Who?
Facts!
@@matteosarcinella798 Yes, I mentioned it in the video
Depending on when Loki’s dad actually inherited the devil fruit from his father & the time Shanks took the nika fruit from whos who
I think Imu and his original crew switched out the fruits. Or had someone do it. That weakened the giants and allowed them to steal Uranus
5:48 imagine a backstory like masamune kuns ☠ coz like he already had the rejection part in the bag
Shanks lure is soooo good man.
I believe that IMU has red hair! We all hyped up garling.. but I think ODA is saving imu reveal because he or she will have red hair and either be shanks mother/father!! If imu has direct communication with Figarland Garling then why wouldn’t it have the same communication with shanks?? Either that or IMU’s servant that was wearing the straw hat in the reverie scene is shanks sister!! The STRAW HAT is a significant part of this story!!
you're theory contradicts with the episode where shanks stole the fruit from the world government and whos who was the one tasked to guard it since it was guarded by the government Loki's devil fruit will be different
@@zype007 yes, I mentioned it in the video
And to top it all off Loki will join the Straw Hat Crew
I found it really strange that hyrodoin never seemed to have a genuinely cheerful spirit when encountering Luffy or the strawhats!.... Even at the grand fleet toast he didn't have the normally cheerful spirit of the other giants. Then if you contrast that with this negative image we we've given of Loki for the past 20 or so despite now seeing a different side of Loki (like with Zebek), and Luffy taking a special liking to him; it shows that there's something off about Loki and Hyrodins backstory that's not clear ( which I do think Hyrodin can be revealed as a traitor to the strawhats and his kingdom.. Also I don't believe Luffy freeing Loki will be the end of the world but I do think some how Loki was blackmailed in the death of his father and it was actually hyrodoin (who possibly could have worked along with shanks and a fleet of navy soldiers to assist Hyrodin in killing his father and taking the throne)! But Shanks knowing about the significance of that devil fruits (Nika devil fruit), took up the offer only to steal it later from the cifer pol agents because he tailed them after they left Elbaph!!🤷🏿♂️ And when it comes to why Loki could believe he is the sun god, I think given the proximity to EGGHEAD and Dr Vegapunk who created the smile fruits; it could be the case that after imprisoning Loki for the death of his father, Hyrodin tricked Loki with the smile fruit to replace the gum gum/ Nika fruit: making him think he ate the Nika fruit! That's perhaps why he say " if he is freed, he'll end the world (because it's his belief that he ate the fruit and only because of the chains is why the world still exists); pointing to what he would do with that power!! ITS A REALLY FUNNY MOMENT IF DOESN'T HAVE THE NIKA FRUIT AND ACTUAL ATE A SMILE FRUIT THINK HE'S THE SUN GOD WITH THOSE BANDAGES OVER HIS EYES😂😂😂😂😂 BUT WE'LL SEE
political intrigue is happening on Elbaph
Brrroooooooooo that is a baller ass theory
I cant imagine cipher pol stealing the nika fruit from elbaph and the giants not retaliate(even the rocks pirates retaliated when they was robbed by the WG) or cipher pol do a fruit switcheroo and only shanks knew bout the switch, so this theory is unlikely to me
Loki seems Ace coded to me so perhaps hes another fire logia user, user of the plasma plasma fruit
Loki might either have the actual gomu gomu fruit or a mythical wolf fruit.
Chopper and Loki both broke the same horn if you look at it
i like your theory and every of your theories until now......but they say that maybe.....the person that was with gorosei maybe was shanks twin brother but who knows?🤷♂🤷♂🤷♂im looking foward for the next chapters!!!
I still think lokis legendary fruit will be the giant god elbaph that was mentioned
Its The Mask Of Loki....
You forget san juan wolf, 1st elbaf we know eat devil fruit
Luffy x Nami at the end GGWP :)
nah, thats not what happened.
he already ate the fruit. he killed his dad for it.
Good theory, lotta people out here commenting before watching the whole video tho huh 😂
Fr dude annoys me so much
Like Watch the whole video
Why people saying your theory is bad
It makes sense to me.
brother first giant ??? just gunna ignore the giant who ate the giant giant fruit
Chopper DF is mid tier huh? Just wait for FOREST GOD to reveal himself after awakening
I think shanks is the descendant of one of the 05 elders
We know 2 giants who have devil fruits?!? What you mean
oh cool this dude took the theory people been talking about and made a video about it instead of being original
loki has the surtur devil fruit... hes ragnarok
How are YT daying shanks stole the devil fruit this person aint even the first one it was already stated how shanks got the fruit and in the manga loki killed his dad for it cone up with a better vid jesus
Jeden z lepszych!
Could it be true ?? Why does imu have a giant straw hat frozen ?? Would make sense .. is the sword the sun god sword?? Would be interesting
He stole it from who's who .... ruined who who life
maybe there 2 sun god devil furtis and luffy just ate it first and loki just thnik he got the powers
He stole it from who's who on a navy ship do you even watch one piece or read the manga?
Bro been watching two piece 😂
This can’t be cannon
Huh didn't he get it from a navy ship
Shit makes no sense
I doubt that Luffy didn't Eat the "true sun god df" this theory is worse than the time travel theory 💀
Did you even watch the video?
@@BlackLegVinSmoke no but the theory alone sounds literally retarded 💀
Lie clickbait title. Pretty sad blackleg. People will watch your videos without that tactic. Sadly, i will no longer.