The changes to igem g 11 and 13 that all gas engineers and trainees need to know.
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- Опубликовано: 18 ноя 2022
- Derek looks at the changes made to igem g 11 and 13. He talks us through the new procedure for working pressure at the gas meter and the changes made to the gas industry unsafe situations procedure.
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Thanks for putting out these videos..it’s a great help for the self employed engineers to keep up to date.
Great video, thanks for keeping us all up to date.
Greatly appreciated
Thanks for keeping us abreast of the current and forthcoming standards Dez. 👍
Thank you for all your marvellous videos. They are a great help, in so many ways.
Thanks for keeping us updated.
Topman keep up the good work of educating, refreshing and refunding all the gas sniffers and knob touches out there 👍🏻
Informative and educational as always.
Thank you Derek
As always really informative. Thank you!!!.
Great video thanks for keeping us informed 👏👏👏
Nice one, cheers for all these vids
Thanks for the amazing video again ❤
Appreciate the update
Great video as usual! Be great to hear your thoughts/a video on new guidance for reacting to Co alarm going off. Is it now required that Emergency service has to attend? Is there still scope for engineers to judge it was most likely a faulty alarm and replace it?
Cheers for the update
Very interesting and thanks for this. How does this effect commercial?
Top man, great information
Thank you derek as always very helpful. Im glad i subcribed to your channel.
Me too 👍🏻
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@@tomkatgastraining 👍
👍 thanks for the update
Thank you Derek , Mohamed Hassan
I have all IGEM 11/13 TB's up to date.
How many installers bother to do the same?
So your post is so important, and that's why you go to the lengths you do to update and inform installers.
I would say that ultimately gas meter inlet/outlet operating pressures are but a part of determining the safe operation of appliances, accurate gas rating is essential.
Thank you Derek
M.ali
I’m in Cornwall and seen new meter installations with a label stating working pressure will be between 18 and 23 mm.
At W&W we've been told to allow a 1 minute stabilisation time once in hot water mode and additional appliances running at 50% before recording the WP.
You are correct
Thank You
Many thanks for your efforts ☺️
I thought the G was ‘guidance’, as opposed to UP, like IGEM/UP/1B, which is ‘user procedure’??
Thanks for the update! 👍🏻
Nice one 👍
Thanks 👍👍 great 👍
Tha KS for putting these videos out
Well that’s a bonus.
It’s about time too.
Any idea where I should I study for my Gas Safe virtual inspection? 24 questions I think.
Do they test the regulator first ?
Gis a clue on the January changed...?
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Can you tell me if an external Gas Meter box should be replaced or repaired if an extra knock-out hole for the gas entry has been removed but the hole is not used and left blank? I note the Gas Safe Register says holes bigger than 10mm should result in the box being replaced. But what if this defect has not been picked up until the purchaser takes possession? Should the gas meter be disconnected temporarily to allow a new box to be installed or is it acceptable to put a plastic patch over the knocked-out hole?
as far as im aware the repair of a 10mm hole is for a box built into a cavity wall where
it is directly terminated within the cavity, a hole at the front of a box in the allocated cut out wouldn't require a repair or exchange as it hasnt damaged the integrity of the box
and more importantly wouldn't allow gas into the cavity if there is a leak within the meterbox
@@shaunfoley4692 Yes but it would also allow pests an entry point into the box
@@Elfin4 nothing a bit of non setting compound cant stop my friend, cant say ive seen anything to suggest we need to take potential pests into account with regards to meterboxes, certainly not to extend that it requires changing for safety reasons but by all means keep asking, bs 6400 is for meter installation and i think bs 8499 (could be wrong) for meter box standards, maybe they might shed more light
It’s not completely clear to me what is meant by integrity of the box. If the door keeps blowing off in the wind or the door is missing is this an AR situation? Similarly an unused hole to outside. Replacing a built in box is not always straitforward.
Can you shed any light (apart from the obvious)on why IGEM make you become a member and purchase each standard for £80+ . Surely this restriction makes us less safe and less compliant! I for one cannot afford to purchase each document every time i come across a specific situation that needs clarification.
All are free to download off their website 👍🏻
@@tomkatgastraining the ones you have mentioned might be but ‘all’ are not free. Specifically ones for commercial applications.
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Marcin Masalski
Cadent are only responsible for services if they have a service agreement with the supplier. Not all suppliers have this so may use contracts to cover there meters and regulators
Great video once again , although you say the GT will have to do something about low pressure,I like your optimism here,it's not what the document suggests .
Supply requires further investigation.
The GT will recommend the best course of
action working in conjunction with the RGE to
pragmatically address the situation and explain
this to the customer/RGE with associated
timescale.
Looks like they can still go ,nah nothing to see here ,move on .
Great went to a service yesterday. Never done it before and it is its 1st service. 19.7 working and 16.2 at the inlet of the ideal instinct 2. Guess what in the Benchmark the installer has claimed inlet pressure as 20mbar so definately telling porkies here. Ideal say they would be OK with it but if it breaks down and the issue is with pressure the guarantee is void.
How does that make sense ? They say there fine with it but they wont cover it on warranty thats total bullshit
@@shaunconnor7525 I agree they should say no ID it as it is not performing as per MIs but you know I have had that much aggro this year with registered installers and what they leave. 44 years in the trade is long enough and standards are not getting better even ACS has made no difference.
MP 06/02/23
The amount of times I get sgn turning the hot water tap on, on a heat only boiler and saying it’s fine is shocking. They need better training!
Igem isn't free for downloads of 11 or 13
They are from igem website
Cheers for the update