@@artmallory970 it's "The Scotch and the Irish leave you close to tears. There even are places where English compeltely disappears. Why, in America they haven't used it for years."
It is definitely something odd to watch. Yet nothing that offends me. Simply telling them Yanks to fuck off and find their own ancient culture to pillage, mix their highest value goods with cow filth and worship this achievement for centuries, is not what he has chosen to do. Instead he leads them to certain desintegration, by feeding their already sprouting need for useless conflicts that defy any meaning. It is very English to pull these things off while at the same time just looking English . (I am neither German , nor French)
As a German I must ask why it should make me "nervous"? ' Our misguided cousins on this island have sadly not found the exquisite taste of coffee. I hope it will change sometime in the future. That´s the only thing I can hope for - may they embrace coffee as other, older, cultures have. But I doubt it. INVICTUS MANEO!
So many years ago, I worked in a large scale Rail Project. We had a German Engineer seconded to us who was an expert in fluid mechanics and brought a very serious and expensive piece of hardware and modelling software with him. We needed to test it, the Rolling Stock team suggested we solve the age old milk in first or not debate. So we did it very scientifically measuring density of the brewed tea, brewed tea with milk but also the way that the liquids mixed under different conditions. We found out that adding water to tea leaves produced a certain density of brewed tea. If done in a pot with loose leaves it works well. But when you pour tea from a teapot into a cup and added milk afterwards the milk did not mix as well with the tea as when you put the milk in first. This proved to us that, scientifically milk in first when using a teapot is correct. We also tested with Teabags as well and this proved that you should never put milk in first with teabags because the resulting milky water did not infuse with the tea as it brewed as well. So there is the science. Wish I still had the scientific results.
Regaring brewing bag tea in milky water: I always had an intuition this is the case. I likened to to vapor pressure; if you want good diffusion you need your solvent to be as unsaturated as possible. Adding milk is only going to weaken the water's solvency and thus brewing strength. (Something like that. I'm an EE not a chemical or materials engineer.)
@Scumfuck McDoucheface We did that as well, even working out if clockwise or counter-clockwise stirring affected the brewing of the tea (it made no difference). This guy had two weeks to wait before the fluid systems he was meant to model were ready. I summarised the findings, this was in the early 1990's.
MrDoozer001 Oh and they re armed. What was that? Armed? What do you mean armed? Armed with what? Err, bad breath, colourful language, feather duster... what do you think they're gonna be armed with? Guns, you tit!
And it's down Along the Falls Road, that's where I long to be, Lying in the dark with a Provo company, With my little Armalite I'm as happy as can be, Just pour in some hot water and I'll make a cup of tea. P.S. Fuck the IRA they're a bunch of child-murdering bastards.
Thanks for this comment. I had never heard that song before. It's a barn burner of a song. To be played and listened to prudently and carefully (for me at least) like a lot of my favorite ideological and political music. I wonder if there is a RUclips channel of great but politically distasteful music and songs.
Whilst serving a hefty sentence for the unlicensed possession of an antique target pistol in an English prison, I wound up as the sole guitar player on a wing containing gentlemen with histories linked to either side of the Irish troubles. Singing being a universal joy, a cordial detente was reached whereby we played an equal quantity of each sides songs in strict rotation. And that is how I learned that song....
Cambridge did a study on the matter. They concluded that it gets down to the brewing method used. If you brew in the mug, it is milk second. If you brew in a pot it is milk first. That is how to get the best taste.
That makes sense to me. Dissolvable solids in the tea seem to prefer dissolving in water. They're less soluble in the non-polar butterfat that's found in milk (a colloidal/stable mixture in a water-based solution). From personal experience, it's obvious that tea is overly weak when made with milk first.
Bingo! The most important thing I was told is to get the hot water and the tea working together, drawing all that flavour, with nothing else interfering in the way. Thus: - Teabag brewed in cup/mug - milk always second - Loose tea or teabag brewing in a teapot - can fill cup in any order The milk first being preferred back in the day, to protect the expensive or weaker inferior European copies of Chinese porcelain, I have heard from other sources, so its not just Mr Twinnings surmising it. Chris Evans (the radio presenter) was interviewing some etiquette expert or member of one of the old London merchant trading guilds, probably about 15 years back when he was on BBC Radio 2, and that reason was given for Victorian-era etiquette.
Ah, I remember a 'study' being done. I don't think it was Cambridge though. Wasn't it this? web.archive.org/web/20140217093520/www.lboro.ac.uk/departments/chemical/news/how-to-make-the-perfect-cup-of-tea.html
Hear, hear! When brewing in the mug, it's also about the temperature: unless you're heating the milk up as well, it's going make everything else colder, and it has to be boiling water for proper black tea. Which is why it doesn't matter at all for pot-brewed tea.
Takeaways from this: 1) Don't argue about tea cause even British people can't agree with each others on the "right" way. 2) Ian will find a way to mention bullpups even on a tea video, even if it's just the description.
I remember being told that the late Duchess of Devonshire found her daughter putting the milk in first, exclaimed loudly “there will be no MIFs in this house” and didn’t speak to her for 6 weeks
@@ryanmalcolm5359 boyo didn't cha know that tea is scarid in many cultures the british tea cult is a very real thing just like the japanese tea cult is.
@@hobbesfan4196 Mother-in-laws are one thing and I don't think anyone would disagree with you (i certainly wouldn't) but mothers are quite a different kettle of fish, especially that one in that "house"
British Historian: *Researches tea preparation method to make a point* Ian's American Viewers 5min in: *Confused patriotic noises* 10 min in: *Furious anti-imperialist noises*
Im English and this is why i drink coffee. Tea is a bloody faff. Coffee is easy, just bung all the ingredients in a mug, in any order, and it comes out fine.
Actually half your fellow countrymen, and women, are tea drinkers. Once they got the hang of it, and realised you did not need to throw it into Boston Harbour to get the best flavour, they quite took to drinking tea. Me. I am British but I am with you on the coffee. Unless it's Earl Grey tea of course. 👍😄
@FREN Actually, the famous playwright Shakespeare spelled his words without the superfluous U. Much like soccer, a term America got from Britain (where it originated as the popular short-term for "association football"), spellings like "color" and "center" are the original words, which America got from England and retained, and England moved away from. Or like the original British accent, which now is only spoken in certain neighborhoods of Boston, Massachusetts, in the U.S.
Broke: Gun enthusiasts are all unhinged maniacs Woke: "Having done the relevant research and after serious consideration I have concluded the following societal causes of tea preparation methods."
Oh, well played. This does of course explain why it's impossible to get a proper cup of tea in the US. You are culturally incapable of it because of all the freedom.
I stress to our household, tea bags in first and add boiling water from the kettle. Don't let the kettle stand. then add milk and sugar if desired. However when making a pot, use tea leaves, warm the teapot and cups (never use cold china ware) then add boiling water and close the pot and put a thick tea towel or tea cosy. Once the tea has brewed then add milk first and the tea. Don't forget some scones or a biccy Thanks for this video, made my day
It's silly getting agitated about this. No point crying over spilt milk. 1941 Tea Making Tips film ruclips.net/video/vnvYymrCn4g/видео.html I always thought camomile tea was soothing but it turns out the Antifa crew all drink it and other fruit teas. Why? Because all proper tea is theft!
I recall reading that’s what started the whole thing. Quality porcelain could withstand the thermal shock, but the consumer grade would crack without the milk acting as a buffer. Thus the order became a question not of taste, but of class. Could be entirely apocryphal, but I rarely get a chance to share it!
@mrb692 doesn't apply to most of today's stuff if I'm not mistaken, only to the antiques. At most all you have to worry about today is a slightly longer rinse if you do tea first.
@@insertname1667 Soak the cup in a solution of Baking Soda. In London the water is so hard you can eat it, and I drink tea black, so that's the only way I can get cups and flasks clean of the tannin residue.
A very old , now deceased and missed friend, whenever there was a head bangaing problem being faced would appear and mutter' Right put the kettle on , tea and thinking time'. We did send a large teapot wreath to his funeral.
That film is "quite" good from the gunplay aspect. Notice Boris puts earplugs in before firing a gun indoors. Also every time Tony fires his Desert Eagle it always fires precisely 8 rounds before being empty (The safety marks it as a Mark 1 and therefore it's probably a .44 Manum and he had someone else write Desert Eagle point five oh down the side in a shitty font) Plus it;s a bit loud when someone fires blanks in a car and Tommy clearly doesn;t know enough about guns to load his revolver.
How to make tea by step. 1. Use Axe to break open Tea Crates 2. Lift Tea Crate up and throw it in the harbor 3. Declare Independence from Royal Overlords Congratulations you're free to drink black coffee, wait what were we talking about again?
Smuggle tea illegally and make profit. Find that the government has removed tax on tea so your laboriously smuggled tea is now more expensive than legal tea. Find large new shipment of untaxed legal tea has arrived in port. Pretend (badly) to be local natives and destroy tea on vessel to keep prices up.
There is a verified taste element to this. See the famous "Lady tasting tea" experiment. This was actually a very important experiment in the history of statistics and was conducted by Sir Ronald Fisher, father of modern statistical science.
When you are drinking from fine china, you put the milk in first, this is so the hot tea does not crack the glaze. If you are drinking from modern cups or mugs, tea goes in first, and ad milk depending on how strong the tea is.
@@JonathanFergusonRoyalArmouries I'm with you Jonathan, if you haven't judged how much milk to put in your cup before the tea after years of tea making there's no hope for you.
This is debunked in the video. The boiling liquid was poured into the teapot, it was never in danger of cracking the cups. If we are talking teabags then we are well past the common use of china, especially in poor households. It's just a cultural thing/old wives tail, it's still exceptionally common here in Lancashire to put milk in first, we were/are poor as shit and it lives on almost as a mark of pride.
As a fellow Missouri resident, milk goes rather well with Chai teas and with some varieties of Earl Grey styles of tea. Not the store bought stuff mind you, but higher quality loose leaf tea. Black tea is pretty basic. A bit of sugar or preferably honey and either ice it or drink it hot. Maybe a bit of lemon or some other fruit juice. Real basic stuff, but quite good. There is a wide array of great tea out there if you ever do feel adventurous enough to try some different stuff.
Years ago I worked with a few ex squadies . The way to make tea is quarter of leaf tea, bag of sugar, two cans of condensed milk in a billy top up with water or more condensed milk, heat over a tin of petrol soaked sand. Boil for at least ten minutes. Enjoy
Excellent exposition on an important subect. Many years ago when the world was young one of our mock GCE "O" level physics questions centred on calculating the difference between warming or not warming the pot! We were given the relevant specific heat values, like for tea leaves etc. The difference was significant and I have warmed the pot ever since. It was only with the cynicism of advancing years that I realised that "Sir" fiddled the figures to get a neat answer. Such duplicity to mislead the young! I do object though to folk putting cold milk in the pot with the brewing (stewing?) tea, it happened to me in a cafe once and dishwater was the result. It doesn't do the pot lining of tea residue much good either.
Douglas Adams, in the "Hitchhiker's Guide," explains the milk goes in first to avoid scalding it with near boiling tea. Jim Corbett, the famous hunter of man-eating tigers and leopards, often spoke of the tea villagers made in the Indian hill country. It was brewed with milk instead of water, and then, by his tastes, "over sweetened" with jaggery, which is a crude sugar that can include palm sap.
There is a good article by George Orwell on making proper tea written during WW2, his argument was milk in last so you can properly judge the strength and that you can consume tea leaves without any ill effect thus negating the main reason for putting the milk in first getting the tea leaves to the bottom of the cup most people wouldn't use/have tea strainers.
I've understood that the distinction between milk first or milk last was due to the thermal-shock quality of the vessel you were drinking the tea from: For the upper class who could afford the best bone china back in the day, the bone china could survive the thermal shock of boiling water being poured into it, and so they had the option of adding milk last. For lower classes who couldn't afford Bone China and had to make do with inferior ceramics, boiling water in first was not an option as the thermal shock could fracture the vessel. Adding milk first and then adding boiling water helped keep the thermal shock below the fracture threshold. This meant that those that couldn't afford the best bone china could be identified by their milk/water pouring order and eyebrows could be raised. The Fortnum and Mason website also discusses this topic in fair detail. Add the end of the day, just enjoy your cuppa however you enjoy it : )
I am an American. I drink tea in a big mug with no milk at all, and the handle grabbed with all fingers. there is no teapot, only boiling water added to a single mug with a single teabag.
Same, I don't drink enough tea to bother with a whole pot of it. Much easier to just brew a single cup rather than having to pour half of it down the drain.
I can't believe I got the "big end, little end" reference, not because I read Gulliver's Travels, but because I read Fahrenheit 451 which references it!
@@IanIngram1 the bbc reported that it had a mostly positive effect back in Oct 19 "Gloucestershire saw a 66% fall in incidence of cattle TB and Somerset saw a 36% drop over the period between 2013 and 2017. Dorset, the third badger culling zone, saw a 10% increase, which the report's authors say is not statistically significant, in cattle TB from 2015 to 2017"
@Wes Smith isn't the tea used in sweet tea/iced tea of a much less bitter type? Pretty sure on one of my trips to Iowa to see friends, I've made the mistake using an American brand to make a British cup and a British brand to make an American cup and both were just awful.
Careful! There has already been one war started over the issue of Tea. Tea built the British Empire, as 1 It got the peaseants off alcahol, so they sobered up. 2 Because you boil the water to make Tea, they stopped dying of water borne diseases. 3 Also has a genreral anti bacterial effect.
This was excellent! My Grandmother remarked to me as a small boy that 'nice families' pour the tea in first to find the colour of the tea (and then adjust from the extra jug of hot water that was always supplied on a tea tray! - which it was.) as 'other families' boiled the tea in the kettle and poured it in to the cups when it was 'completely black' and so changing the colour of the tea was 'without reason'! I can witness that in the 1960's and 1970's many factory workers brought a boiling 'jug' to work with a twist of tea and sugar already in it for the apprentices to boil up before the 'tea break', and if the were lucky the employer would provide some milk to add to it. I still add milk to my tea, and not the other way around... habits die hard.
Coffee yes, but tea came to Europe from two directions. From the west, the Portuguese bought tea through their colony of Macau and introduced it to the aristocracy of Europe. From the east, the Russians bought tea from China through the central Asian caravan trade. The royal families of Europe, when they weren’t busy inbreeding, got each other hooked on tea, and it spread to their populations from there.
It's more than likely also something to do with it being impossible to remove milk from a tea served to a guest of your owner/employer and therefore safer to offer the milk/cream and/or sugar after pouring said tea
Thank you for the book and the info. On the subject of putting milk first my research has yielded the following main reason. It comes as a habit from the Napoleonic wars era. During that time the center of porcelain production in Europe was the city of Limoges in France, since Napoleon established had a continent wide (or so he tried) embargo to the UK one could hardly acquire foreign ( French ) porcelain tea sets and it had to rely on UK made tea sets. These set tended to be of varied quality and a substantial number of them tended to fracture or break when the hot tea or hot tea water was first purred in straight to the cups or tea pots. Thus it became a habit of pouring the milk first in order to cool the liquid first below the boiling point. It became a habit in “lower classes” since a. The “upper classes” had Limoges sets in stock and could afford to buy new once from a Third country such as Russia or Portugal. B. The lower classes would not want to replace broken cups or tea pots even with domestic one every week or few weeks. Thus I believe the social distinction of tea making came to be.
Yay! You go Monkey Hangers, my mum was from Hartlepool, it's nearly 60 years since I was there visiting my grandparents. Story I heard is milk first when using a teapot to prevent the bone china cups cracking with thermal shock. When using the teabag in the mug method, milk in last or the tea takes longer to brew. And yes, you can SOMETIME tell the strength of the tea by the colour, but teas are blended and sometimes blend vary to get the same flavour and the colour can vary so it's not a reliable method to gauge the strength. Tea - make it the way that works for you... unless maybe you are at the Dorchester.
Agreed as "herbal tea". Wikipedia in fact lists it under the entry on "Herbal tea" as "Coffee bean tea, or simply coffee, a tisane made from the seeds of the coffee plant"
As a coffee person, I couldn't care less about milk in tea. I do have something to say about pour-over, french press, Mr. Coffee, Bunn, or percolator. They're all OK. But the best way to make coffee is in a n enamelware coffee pot over a wood fire in the outdoors. Grind the coffee beans in your cast-iron frying pan with the butt of your six-shooter, pour the grounds into the pot, drop the eggshells from your fried eggs into the grounds, fill the pot with water and wait until it boils. The egg shells keep the grounds at the bottom and you can pour a mug of real coffee.
If you need to see the colour in order to judge the strength it means you probably make tea rarely. In years gone by, my mother, aunts, in fact every adult female could make tea of the precise strength desired consistently, routinely. That's why "milk in first" was de rigueur.
I was going to say I have the same brightly coloured C96, as featured on your shelf, but mine has a yellow barrel and lower receiver, green mag, blue grips, and a green upper. As for the milk debate, I only make tea in a pot when I go visit the old parents, and they favour Rington's and it's a fairly robust blend, so I add milk afterwards so I can judge the colour of the brew.
Several years ago, while at the tiny English village of Castle Bolton - named for nearby Bolton Castle - I got to see a trio of workmen repairing the roof on the castle, take their tea break on the roof of the castle... and they poured the milk in last. The most impressive part was that they hoisted the entire tea service(!) from the courtyard floor to the roof - and the entire tea service appeared to be bone china! - using a rope and a basket. I can't imagine an American crew going to such lengths to maintain proper civility under similar circumstances. Loved the video.
Ah yes, this is the content we've all been waiting for! 😊 and I'm strangely proud of seeing my comment featured in the opening of the video 😁 I find it quite hilarious that a simple video of making a cup of tea can cause more controversy on a weapons related channel than confusing clips and magazines, your audience is always capable of surprising you 😊
Alas, during my entire time in Wales (1.5 years) I was never served tea like you make it. I know, I know, “... but they’re Welsh!” So? I became addicted to tea and it’s my go to 45 years later. I now do evaporated milk last in a strong black tea sweetened with honey. Heaven in a large mug!
Society: Ferguson, dont put milk in first! Ferguson: But but....Ian does it too! Lol. I cant wait for the book. I already preordered mine. I am excited about all the stretch goals being made and the extras. Keep it up
Here in the USA, very few American restaurants will even give you a pot with your tea, if you are lucky you will get a small stainless steel pitcher with hot water from the coffee maker already in it. Along with it you get a coffee cup and an individually wrapped tea bag and some tiny half-&-half containers. If unlucky, most often, you will just get a cup of hot water and a tea bag on the side with small containers of non-dairy creamer. That, my friends, is how a proper heathen drinks tea. :D My English former wife educated me on the subject of proper tea making and dissuaded me from my heathen ways which I learned from watching my first generation Irish-American grandmother. So I now use a small pot to make tea in and I put the milk in the cup first. I have tried it both ways and I prefer the milk in first because I put cold milk in directly from the jug out of the refrigerator, this allows the milk to warm while the tea is brewing. Cold milk doesn't mix as well with hot tea, I find. But, still being an American, I put a common Lipton tea bag in the pot. Having visited Britain and stayed at some of their fine bed and breakfasts and also visiting many other local eating establishments I discovered that in England and Wales I always received a small pot of tea with my order, even in a shopping center canteen; but in Scotland, it was common to receive a bag in a cup with no pot at all, which is probably the source of our American style, forget the pot, straight in the cup, tea tradition.
An interesting Tea related piece of history is the very upper class act of poking your little finger outwards as you hold the cup and drink the tea. IT actually goes back to med-evil times when you ate with your right hand. You would use your little finger to take salt, pepper or spices from a communal receptical to add to your food. Poking the little finger outwards as you ate demonstrated to everyone you were keeping your 'salt finger' clean.
Forgotten Weapons: Teatime Edition... -or Hey, didn't we have a war so we wouldn't have to deal with this? -or I never got use to tea... Too much seawater. -or The Queen puts the milk in last? Isn't she German?
Canadian here. Milk goes in first, then honey, then teabag, then boiling water is poured over it. If you put the right amount of milk in to begin with you won't have a problem!
@ben501st honestly I don't really see any issues with that, was staying at some friends in Iowa and it was quicker to nuke my tea than it was to use either of their damn kettles.
"Palaver... Frankly, the only word for it." Lol. Virtually no Americans know what that is (self included), but it seems very appropriate to include in a very British discussion about tea.
*leaves a note saying* "I warm up my 3+ tea in microwave" *Leaves into the unknown to be never found and to perform more heresy* Ps I also mix tea types.
I really found this interesting. I've lived in Britain all my life, but I've never been a fan of tea. I can't say I'd ever known of people pouring milk in first so the class warfare aspect was particularly surprising to me.
I was brought up with always putting milk in first and I can taste when someones put the milk in 2nd! My parents are from the North but I grew up in London and quite a lot of my friends put milk in first. Maybe it's a North/South thing?
@@colobossable Perhaps? But I'm from London and have lived in the South all my life so if your northern friends are the ones putting the milk in first that would make sense?
According to my Scottish grand aunt, who was working class by the way, adding the milk first reduces staining of the teacup making clean up easier. of course this is a lower class thing because the upper-class do not clean their own teacups!
Dear Jonathan I'm a Brit (resident in Canada for many years) who apparently started drinking tea as a toddler! I come from a working class background and all my family put the milk in first and we still do! I would also argue that I can reliably judge the strength of tea by the colour as it comes out of the pot, so the milk in first is not a worry, and given I usually make the tea and use the same brand (Yorkshire Tea), there is no guesswork. However which goes in first really does not bother me at all as long as it is a good quality tea and was made with boiling rather than "hot" water. My research has revealed the following reasons for the "working class" putting the milk in first and the toffs putting it in after the tea. Folks of humble means generally used cups etc made of stoneware because they could not afford fine bone china (porcelain) which is what the wealthy classes used. Porcelain is much more tolerant of heat shock than stoneware, hence the hot tea could go in the cup first with little worry of the cup cracking and the milk follow afterwards. Stoneware however could crack with the sudden heat shock. Thus if the milk goes in first, the hot tea is less likely to shock the cup. Seems a reasonable argument to me as a friend who is a potter agreed with the basic logic, albeit he noted today's modern stoneware is a more heat shock tolerant material than what was around in the late Victorian age. Greatly looking forward to getting my copy of your upcoming book. I have handled the EM 2's and the 4.85 mm specimens owned by the Canadian War Museum in Ottawa after arranging a special visit a few years ago! I also have a samples of the .280 and 4.85 mm cartridges (deactivated) in my collection. Best wishes Paul
Hi Paul - yes, I do believe you're correct and my quick and dirty assessment was lacking; people at least believed that cracking was a risk and so the working classes ended up doing the milk thing. I've yet to find hard proof though. Hope you enjoy the book!
I poor in milk first for my coffee. It mixes nicely, so you don’t need a spoon. Now I get it that it’s mostly banter, but you never know with the Brits. But you do realise it makes no difference, right?
When I drink tea, I start with my giant coffee mug I got at Dollar Tree that holds nearly 1.5 pints of liquid. I then fill it with whatever water is nearest me, be it the tap, filtered water from the fridge or that radiator fluid I've been meaning to recycle for the past 8 months. I chuck the mug and water into the microwave and get a nice boil rolling. Next, I drop in whatever teabag I (usually) blindly selected and steep it for however long it takes me to drink it. I only add sugar if it's peppermint tea. Milk doesn't belong in tea but in coffee, which is better than tea. Alright, fight amongst yourselves.
No, proper Southern sweet tea is made with simple syrup (sugar dissolved in water until the water can't hold any more sugar). That's liquid bliss. The other way is swill with sugar granules on the bottom!
@@Hysteria98 Its a Southern thing. Usually isnt too sweet actually. Best sweet tea is the type served out of an old depression-glass pitcher with assorted sliced fruit
Damn Yankees, real sweet tea is made with molasses not sugar or syrup. (Lol, just causing trouble) But seriously molasses trust me you'll thank me later.
Oh dear. I seem to have broken Forgotten Weapons.
@@artmallory970 it's
"The Scotch and the Irish leave you close to tears.
There even are places where English compeltely disappears.
Why, in America they haven't used it for years."
I must confess that whenever you show up I can't help but play "spot the differences" with your bookshelves.
@@MorwenWhyte And I must admit that I moved things around deliberately knowing that people were looking :D
Nice T-shirt mate
I'm in love with the fact that I just watched a Brit do a nearly 10.5 minute video on the proper way to pour tea. It sounds like a hyperbole
This is so violently British that it's making both France and Germany nervous.
And poland fearful of its alliance
It is definitely something odd to watch. Yet nothing that offends me.
Simply telling them Yanks to fuck off and find their own ancient culture to pillage, mix their highest value goods with cow filth and worship this achievement for centuries, is not what he has chosen to do.
Instead he leads them to certain desintegration, by feeding their already sprouting need for useless conflicts that defy any meaning.
It is very English to pull these things off while at the same time just looking English .
(I am neither German , nor French)
@@VetusMundus How poetic
As a German I must ask why it should make me "nervous"? '
Our misguided cousins on this island have sadly not found the exquisite taste of coffee.
I hope it will change sometime in the future.
That´s the only thing I can hope for - may they embrace coffee as other, older, cultures have.
But I doubt it.
INVICTUS MANEO!
@@ronin47-ThorstenFrank Coffee = The Devil's Diahorrea 😊
So many years ago, I worked in a large scale Rail Project. We had a German Engineer seconded to us who was an expert in fluid mechanics and brought a very serious and expensive piece of hardware and modelling software with him. We needed to test it, the Rolling Stock team suggested we solve the age old milk in first or not debate. So we did it very scientifically measuring density of the brewed tea, brewed tea with milk but also the way that the liquids mixed under different conditions. We found out that adding water to tea leaves produced a certain density of brewed tea. If done in a pot with loose leaves it works well. But when you pour tea from a teapot into a cup and added milk afterwards the milk did not mix as well with the tea as when you put the milk in first. This proved to us that, scientifically milk in first when using a teapot is correct.
We also tested with Teabags as well and this proved that you should never put milk in first with teabags because the resulting milky water did not infuse with the tea as it brewed as well.
So there is the science. Wish I still had the scientific results.
Leave it to a German engineer to resolve the debate through science.
Regaring brewing bag tea in milky water: I always had an intuition this is the case. I likened to to vapor pressure; if you want good diffusion you need your solvent to be as unsaturated as possible. Adding milk is only going to weaken the water's solvency and thus brewing strength.
(Something like that. I'm an EE not a chemical or materials engineer.)
@Scumfuck McDoucheface We did that as well, even working out if clockwise or counter-clockwise stirring affected the brewing of the tea (it made no difference). This guy had two weeks to wait before the fluid systems he was meant to model were ready. I summarised the findings, this was in the early 1990's.
"Wish I still had the scientific results."
And with that, everything you just said went straight out the window.
No proof, no pudding.
@@TheArchaos Maybe the results are archived somewhere, probably. Sadly not public though even though it was all digitised.
“The British Empire was built on cups of tea and if you think I’m going to war without one you are very much mistaken”
Classic
one foot in front of the other, its called walking
MrDoozer001 Oh and they re armed.
What was that? Armed? What do you mean armed? Armed with what?
Err, bad breath, colourful language, feather duster... what do you think they're gonna be armed with? Guns, you tit!
@@davidhinde3229 offers soap a joint " no I dont want any of that horrible shit thank you very much " 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Here here!
A not so forgotten weapon of the British Empire.
Tea? We made plenty down Boston harbor, seemed fine.
@@prouddegenerates9056 You forgot the milk altogether though!
Michael Rogers not really, you used salt water you rascals.
@@ChoppyChof You've not lived until you've tried Boston salt tea. We loved it so much we threw a party!
Bear Williams is that what you call salt water teafy? 🤣
And on today's episode of Forgotten Etiquette...
That pot looks like an IRA member.
Needs a beret and an Armalite
@we need to eat the babies Semtex, the Czech knock-off of C4.
Or UDF looking to kill a a few provos
Yeah, he's in the RA
And it's down Along the Falls Road, that's where I long to be,
Lying in the dark with a Provo company,
With my little Armalite I'm as happy as can be,
Just pour in some hot water and I'll make a cup of tea.
P.S. Fuck the IRA they're a bunch of child-murdering bastards.
That teapot doesn't whistle, it sings "Come out you Black and Tans".
This is underrated so far, beat laugh from a comment in a while
You have me on the floor, that is a good one.
Thanks for this comment. I had never heard that song before. It's a barn burner of a song. To be played and listened to prudently and carefully (for me at least) like a lot of my favorite ideological and political music. I wonder if there is a RUclips channel of great but politically distasteful music and songs.
Teapots don't whistle anyway. That's kettles you're thinking of.
Whilst serving a hefty sentence for the unlicensed possession of an antique target pistol in an English prison, I wound up as the sole guitar player on a wing containing gentlemen with histories linked to either side of the Irish troubles. Singing being a universal joy, a cordial detente was reached whereby we played an equal quantity of each sides songs in strict rotation. And that is how I learned that song....
Cambridge did a study on the matter. They concluded that it gets down to the brewing method used. If you brew in the mug, it is milk second. If you brew in a pot it is milk first. That is how to get the best taste.
That makes sense to me. Dissolvable solids in the tea seem to prefer dissolving in water. They're less soluble in the non-polar butterfat that's found in milk (a colloidal/stable mixture in a water-based solution).
From personal experience, it's obvious that tea is overly weak when made with milk first.
Bingo! The most important thing I was told is to get the hot water and the tea working together, drawing all that flavour, with nothing else interfering in the way. Thus:
- Teabag brewed in cup/mug - milk always second
- Loose tea or teabag brewing in a teapot - can fill cup in any order
The milk first being preferred back in the day, to protect the expensive or weaker inferior European copies of Chinese porcelain, I have heard from other sources, so its not just Mr Twinnings surmising it. Chris Evans (the radio presenter) was interviewing some etiquette expert or member of one of the old London merchant trading guilds, probably about 15 years back when he was on BBC Radio 2, and that reason was given for Victorian-era etiquette.
Ah, I remember a 'study' being done. I don't think it was Cambridge though. Wasn't it this? web.archive.org/web/20140217093520/www.lboro.ac.uk/departments/chemical/news/how-to-make-the-perfect-cup-of-tea.html
Not so sir! While technically correct at a physical level it's not the reason for the different methods or why one is vilified.
Hear, hear! When brewing in the mug, it's also about the temperature: unless you're heating the milk up as well, it's going make everything else colder, and it has to be boiling water for proper black tea. Which is why it doesn't matter at all for pot-brewed tea.
Takeaways from this:
1) Don't argue about tea cause even British people can't agree with each others on the "right" way.
2) Ian will find a way to mention bullpups even on a tea video, even if it's just the description.
I remember being told that the late Duchess of Devonshire found her daughter putting the milk in first, exclaimed loudly “there will be no MIFs in this house” and didn’t speak to her for 6 weeks
Yea it's pretty sad humans hold on to traditions like that, make your drink the way you want to drink it fuck anyone who says otherwise...
@@ryanmalcolm5359 boyo didn't cha know that tea is scarid in many cultures the british tea cult is a very real thing just like the japanese tea cult is.
I could be so lucky if the mother-in-law wouldn't speak to me for six weeks!
@@hobbesfan4196 Mother-in-laws are one thing and I don't think anyone would disagree with you (i certainly wouldn't) but mothers are quite a different kettle of fish, especially that one in that "house"
Can't beat a Mitford for serious banter.
"Never trust a man who, when left alone in a room with a tea cozy, doesn't try it on."
British Historian: *Researches tea preparation method to make a point*
Ian's American Viewers 5min in: *Confused patriotic noises*
10 min in: *Furious anti-imperialist noises*
*Happy gas-mask noises from Krieg*
I like to add my milk after I throw my tea in the harbor.
10:30 I went out looking for a boat full of tea.
*uninterested argentinean mate drinking noises*
And, of course, the incorrect spelling of "furious."
Half the comments are “Boston Tea Party”, the other half are about the “up the RA” teapot 😂
I saw this video and thought it HAD to be a joke.
Now the joke is on me. I'm too American for this video. Time to make a cup of coffee.
It is both a joke and deadly serious at the same time.
Im English and this is why i drink coffee. Tea is a bloody faff.
Coffee is easy, just bung all the ingredients in a mug, in any order, and it comes out fine.
Actually half your fellow countrymen, and women, are tea drinkers. Once they got the hang of it, and realised you did not need to throw it into Boston Harbour to get the best flavour, they quite took to drinking tea. Me. I am British but I am with you on the coffee. Unless it's Earl Grey tea of course. 👍😄
@@bigblue6917 But it doesn't have that distinctive saltiness unless you throw it in a harbor. It adds to the character.
I love your youtube avatar
Americans, you put tea in a teapot, not harbour!
"With, of course, the incorrect spelling of 'colour'." Literally LOL'ed that.
The incorrect spelling has a "U" in it.
@FREN English spelling is fucked up enough as it is already, even the smallest bit of reform should be welcomed, especially if it annoys the British
This guy is peak British :D
When the world hits Peak Vowel and the Brits beg us for access to our Strategic Vowel Reserves, we'll laugh and say "hll n".
@FREN Actually, the famous playwright Shakespeare spelled his words without the superfluous U. Much like soccer, a term America got from Britain (where it originated as the popular short-term for "association football"), spellings like "color" and "center" are the original words, which America got from England and retained, and England moved away from. Or like the original British accent, which now is only spoken in certain neighborhoods of Boston, Massachusetts, in the U.S.
As a Brit, this is the quality content I subscribed for. By far and away the greatest and most informative video to date.
Every British person I've ever met says THEY know the correct way to make tea. Yet all of them make it differently.
I think you meant "Yet all of them make it wrong."
There’s always the odd lunatic, we used to shoot them. 💂♂️
We know the correct way to make tea for ourselves.
For added fun, go ask some Indian mums what's in a "proper" masala.
Ulf Knudsen yeah, good old Britney britt Spears and her drink making and cooking abilities right. I found a hair in the last meal she made 🙄
Broke: Gun enthusiasts are all unhinged maniacs
Woke: "Having done the relevant research and after serious consideration I have concluded the following societal causes of tea preparation methods."
Researchers never leave a question unanswered!
Woke: "Tea drinking stinks of slavery and colonialism!"
If only Woke people were actually like that.
Meet more actual woke people then and less caricatures presented to you
The last time I was this early the way we made tea was by throwing it in the harbor...
'murica!
Oh, well played. This does of course explain why it's impossible to get a proper cup of tea in the US. You are culturally incapable of it because of all the freedom.
finally somebody with some sense in them
XxDevilofRamadi. Explains your Problem ~ Premature Ejaculation¥
Hear hear
I stress to our household, tea bags in first and add boiling water from the kettle. Don't let the kettle stand. then add milk and sugar if desired. However when making a pot, use tea leaves, warm the teapot and cups (never use cold china ware) then add boiling water and close the pot and put a thick tea towel or tea cosy. Once the tea has brewed then add milk first and the tea. Don't forget some scones or a biccy
Thanks for this video, made my day
$600,000 stretch goal - Add on to cocktail recipes-Tea Primer, types and protocol
Stretch Goal : Comparing the amount of thought British put into making tea compared to making the L85A1.
Brits: [War over the order of tea and milk]
Yanks: "Isn't it being mixed with a spoon either way?"
Not if you put the milk in first no, it mixes itself. Best argument for putting the milk in first.
@@user-ue6iv2rd1n you're gonna stir it either way with a spoon if you put sugar in
It's silly getting agitated about this.
No point crying over spilt milk.
1941 Tea Making Tips film ruclips.net/video/vnvYymrCn4g/видео.html
I always thought camomile tea was soothing but it turns out the Antifa crew all drink it and other fruit teas.
Why? Because all proper tea is theft!
So uncivilised...
NO, NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My Irish mother always put the milk in first; she said it was to protect the China when pouring the hot tea in.
I do think that thermal shock should be avoided whenever possible, especially if is antique heirloom china.
I recall reading that’s what started the whole thing. Quality porcelain could withstand the thermal shock, but the consumer grade would crack without the milk acting as a buffer. Thus the order became a question not of taste, but of class.
Could be entirely apocryphal, but I rarely get a chance to share it!
@mrb692 doesn't apply to most of today's stuff if I'm not mistaken, only to the antiques. At most all you have to worry about today is a slightly longer rinse if you do tea first.
@@insertname1667 Soak the cup in a solution of Baking Soda. In London the water is so hard you can eat it, and I drink tea black, so that's the only way I can get cups and flasks clean of the tannin residue.
That's exactly the reason why this class divide exists. Cheap china!
A very old , now deceased and missed friend, whenever there was a head bangaing problem being faced would appear and mutter' Right put the kettle on , tea and thinking time'. We did send a large teapot wreath to his funeral.
And I thought that we Italians were way to fussy about drinking cappuccino in the afternoon ...
scipio10000 il cappuccino è delizioso a qualunque ora del giorno. Non ho mai sentito dire che non si possa bere al pomeriggio.
OH Italy Drinking coffee of any typ is just as disgusting a habit as putting milk in tea.
@Jakub Ujhazy shhh I am humoring the savages 🤫
@@unpietraselvatico7912 La mia signora e' d'accordo con te. Io lascio fare ...
@@mauricematla1215 A chaqun son gout dear boy ...
"What HAS he got a tea cozy on his head for?"
That film is "quite" good from the gunplay aspect. Notice Boris puts earplugs in before firing a gun indoors. Also every time Tony fires his Desert Eagle it always fires precisely 8 rounds before being empty (The safety marks it as a Mark 1 and therefore it's probably a .44 Manum and he had someone else write Desert Eagle point five oh down the side in a shitty font) Plus it;s a bit loud when someone fires blanks in a car and Tommy clearly doesn;t know enough about guns to load his revolver.
Like how British people have baseball bats in the trunk, but no ball? 'Sporting equipment.'
It's a fucking anti-aircraft gun...
It’s an ancient British custom
How to make tea by step.
1. Use Axe to break open Tea Crates
2. Lift Tea Crate up and throw it in the harbor
3. Declare Independence from Royal Overlords
Congratulations you're free to drink black coffee, wait what were we talking about again?
[LAUGHS IN BOSTON HARBOR]
I'm sure that you meant, "harbour". It's OK, we forgive you colonials as such a long separation from the motherland must breed such bad habits. ; )
Smuggle tea illegally and make profit. Find that the government has removed tax on tea so your laboriously smuggled tea is now more expensive than legal tea. Find large new shipment of untaxed legal tea has arrived in port. Pretend (badly) to be local natives and destroy tea on vessel to keep prices up.
Unfortunately I love tea more than freedom.
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There is a verified taste element to this. See the famous "Lady tasting tea" experiment. This was actually a very important experiment in the history of statistics and was conducted by Sir Ronald Fisher, father of modern statistical science.
Make Hong Kong style milk tea instead, and stay awake for 20 hours.
How many caffeine pills do I need to make it?
Why bother with tea at all. Drink some frappé
@@Kikker861 Won't need any, the tea base of HK milk tea is hella dark, 4-6 bags of tea for one cup of water, stewed for about 3-6 minutes.
When you are drinking from fine china, you put the milk in first, this is so the hot tea does not crack the glaze.
If you are drinking from modern cups or mugs, tea goes in first, and ad milk depending on how strong the tea is.
Do it last, Ferguson, because then you'll get it right first time!
There's always one isn't there?!
@@JonathanFergusonRoyalArmouries I'm with you Jonathan, if you haven't judged how much milk to put in your cup before the tea after years of tea making there's no hope for you.
@@Derecq that is easy because there should not be any milk in it.
@@mauricematla1215 depends on the tea, in my taste buds opinion :-)
@@1982rrose You need a long hard sit down with them my friend. I fear for your sanity but all is not yet lost !!!
Milk goes in first in my family being from a poor mining family in Stoke. Protects the cheap China from cracking under the heat by cooling it.
Man, Stoke is a shithole
@@tommyreazy I second that
@@tommyreazy Brownhills and Dudley close by
This is debunked in the video. The boiling liquid was poured into the teapot, it was never in danger of cracking the cups. If we are talking teabags then we are well past the common use of china, especially in poor households.
It's just a cultural thing/old wives tail, it's still exceptionally common here in Lancashire to put milk in first, we were/are poor as shit and it lives on almost as a mark of pride.
This is why i left stoke...
You're truly the Keeper of Artillery when you take home a small cannon for the study. I spotted it Jon, I spotted it.
Ha! You were the only one. It was my grandfather's :)
For anyone reading this comment, it's right at 9:10
I love that out of all the books on that shelf, my eye immediately went to H.P. Lovecraft The Complete Fiction, which I have on my bedside table.
You cannot build a good strong cup of tea upon a foundation of milk.
Or any milk at all!
@@51WCDodge DAS RITE!
Did you see the cup I made in the video? It's eminently possible.
- Winston Churchill, probably
As an American from Missouri who only drinks black tea I find this whole argument to be rather invalid
For real. Milk in tea? Phhhgth! Now, a splash of cranberry juice in black tea on ice? Perfection!
Amen to that brother.
As a fellow Missouri resident, milk goes rather well with Chai teas and with some varieties of Earl Grey styles of tea. Not the store bought stuff mind you, but higher quality loose leaf tea.
Black tea is pretty basic. A bit of sugar or preferably honey and either ice it or drink it hot. Maybe a bit of lemon or some other fruit juice. Real basic stuff, but quite good.
There is a wide array of great tea out there if you ever do feel adventurous enough to try some different stuff.
Ty Keith
Spot on... have drink on me🍺
The only time I drink tea is non sweet tea at a chinese food buffet. An American myself. Otherwise its Dr. Pepper, miller genuine draft or water.
An extremely important episode in light of the clear violation in recent video.
Thanks for clearing this up Gentlemen. Your honour has been preserved.
"never trust a man who; when left alone in a room with a tea cosy, doesn't try in on" Billy Connolly
Years ago I worked with a few ex squadies . The way to make tea is quarter of leaf tea, bag of sugar, two cans of condensed milk in a billy top up with water or more condensed milk, heat over a tin of petrol soaked sand. Boil for at least ten minutes.
Enjoy
Excellent exposition on an important subect. Many years ago when the world was young one of our mock GCE "O" level physics questions centred on calculating the difference between warming or not warming the pot! We were given the relevant specific heat values, like for tea leaves etc. The difference was significant and I have warmed the pot ever since. It was only with the cynicism of advancing years that I realised that "Sir" fiddled the figures to get a neat answer. Such duplicity to mislead the young!
I do object though to folk putting cold milk in the pot with the brewing (stewing?) tea, it happened to me in a cafe once and dishwater was the result. It doesn't do the pot lining of tea residue much good either.
Douglas Adams, in the "Hitchhiker's Guide," explains the milk goes in first to avoid scalding it with near boiling tea.
Jim Corbett, the famous hunter of man-eating tigers and leopards, often spoke of the tea villagers made in the Indian hill country. It was brewed with milk instead of water, and then, by his tastes, "over sweetened" with jaggery, which is a crude sugar that can include palm sap.
There is a good article by George Orwell on making proper tea written during WW2, his argument was milk in last so you can properly judge the strength and that you can consume tea leaves without any ill effect thus negating the main reason for putting the milk in first getting the tea leaves to the bottom of the cup most people wouldn't use/have tea strainers.
I've understood that the distinction between milk first or milk last was due to the thermal-shock quality of the vessel you were drinking the tea from:
For the upper class who could afford the best bone china back in the day, the bone china could survive the thermal shock of boiling water being poured into it, and so they had the option of adding milk last.
For lower classes who couldn't afford Bone China and had to make do with inferior ceramics, boiling water in first was not an option as the thermal shock could fracture the vessel. Adding milk first and then adding boiling water helped keep the thermal shock below the fracture threshold.
This meant that those that couldn't afford the best bone china could be identified by their milk/water pouring order and eyebrows could be raised.
The Fortnum and Mason website also discusses this topic in fair detail.
Add the end of the day, just enjoy your cuppa however you enjoy it : )
Jonathan really had me here listening to 10 minutes of tea talk
God bless him
I am an American.
I drink tea in a big mug with no milk at all, and the handle grabbed with all fingers.
there is no teapot, only boiling water added to a single mug with a single teabag.
This is acceptable to most British folk.
Canuck here, and that's my process also.
Lemon green tea mate, that's the way to go!
Same, I don't drink enough tea to bother with a whole pot of it.
Much easier to just brew a single cup rather than having to pour half of it down the drain.
@@tisFrancesfault But what if they left the bag in?
I can't believe I got the "big end, little end" reference, not because I read Gulliver's Travels, but because I read Fahrenheit 451 which references it!
This was much more fun to watch than it ought to have been. Tea drinker for fifty years, btw. Thank you for a fun video!
I *LOVE* the Badger packin' a gatling gun T-shirt.
@@IanIngram1 A little from column 'a'... www.philosophyfootball.com/dissenters/-badger-resistance.html
@@IanIngram1 the bbc reported that it had a mostly positive effect back in Oct 19
"Gloucestershire saw a 66% fall in incidence of cattle TB and Somerset saw a 36% drop over the period between 2013 and 2017. Dorset, the third badger culling zone, saw a 10% increase, which the report's authors say is not statistically significant, in cattle TB from 2015 to 2017"
Every one here down South, knows that tea is served with sugar and ice. Fancy pants British with their milk, Bah I say! Bah!!
Maybe some lemons too, then we can all get our pitchforks and dump the tea in the harbor.
@Sigkim Would you like some tea with your sugar?
@Wes Smith isn't the tea used in sweet tea/iced tea of a much less bitter type? Pretty sure on one of my trips to Iowa to see friends, I've made the mistake using an American brand to make a British cup and a British brand to make an American cup and both were just awful.
Careful! There has already been one war started over the issue of Tea. Tea built the British Empire, as 1 It got the peaseants off alcahol, so they sobered up. 2 Because you boil the water to make Tea, they stopped dying of water borne diseases. 3 Also has a genreral anti bacterial effect.
1 oz of tea to five pounds of sugar if I recall... My teeth may never recover.
This was excellent! My Grandmother remarked to me as a small boy that 'nice families' pour the tea in first to find the colour of the tea (and then adjust from the extra jug of hot water that was always supplied on a tea tray! - which it was.) as 'other families' boiled the tea in the kettle and poured it in to the cups when it was 'completely black' and so changing the colour of the tea was 'without reason'! I can witness that in the 1960's and 1970's many factory workers brought a boiling 'jug' to work with a twist of tea and sugar already in it for the apprentices to boil up before the 'tea break', and if the were lucky the employer would provide some milk to add to it. I still add milk to my tea, and not the other way around... habits die hard.
"You're Doing It Wrong: Tea and Milk with Jonathan Ferguson"
*laughs in turkish*
Coffee yes, but tea came to Europe from two directions. From the west, the Portuguese bought tea through their colony of Macau and introduced it to the aristocracy of Europe. From the east, the Russians bought tea from China through the central Asian caravan trade. The royal families of Europe, when they weren’t busy inbreeding, got each other hooked on tea, and it spread to their populations from there.
DonPatrono tea became famous in the U.K because of their colonies in Asia.
I'm British and I like my tea Turkish too... Rabbit's blood!
It's more than likely also something to do with it being impossible to remove milk from a tea served to a guest of your owner/employer and therefore safer to offer the milk/cream and/or sugar after pouring said tea
Nope, YOU'RE doing it all wrong. There's only one real way to drink tea: "Tea. Earl Grey. Hot."
Almost, but the tea must be black.
Darjeeling. Extra strong. Gin.
Gods No not that weak stuff....Try Gunpowder Tea....The name says it all
Thank you for the book and the info. On the subject of putting milk first my research has yielded the following main reason. It comes as a habit from the Napoleonic wars era. During that time the center of porcelain production in Europe was the city of Limoges in France, since Napoleon established had a continent wide (or so he tried) embargo to the UK one could hardly acquire foreign ( French ) porcelain tea sets and it had to rely on UK made tea sets. These set tended to be of varied quality and a substantial number of them tended to fracture or break when the hot tea or hot tea water was first purred in straight to the cups or tea pots. Thus it became a habit of pouring the milk first in order to cool the liquid first below the boiling point. It became a habit in “lower classes” since a. The “upper classes” had Limoges sets in stock and could afford to buy new once from a Third country such as Russia or Portugal. B. The lower classes would not want to replace broken cups or tea pots even with domestic one every week or few weeks. Thus I believe the social distinction of tea making came to be.
Yay! You go Monkey Hangers, my mum was from Hartlepool, it's nearly 60 years since I was there visiting my grandparents.
Story I heard is milk first when using a teapot to prevent the bone china cups cracking with thermal shock. When using the teabag in the mug method, milk in last or the tea takes longer to brew. And yes, you can SOMETIME tell the strength of the tea by the colour, but teas are blended and sometimes blend vary to get the same flavour and the colour can vary so it's not a reliable method to gauge the strength.
Tea - make it the way that works for you... unless maybe you are at the Dorchester.
I don't use a tea pot, I use a mug the size of a tea pot. If you can still see the spoon in the tea before the milk it's not strong enough.
This is going to start a fight, and its going to be glorious.
Coffee is a form of tea made with roasted beans rather than dried leaves.
Agreed as "herbal tea". Wikipedia in fact lists it under the entry on "Herbal tea" as "Coffee bean tea, or simply coffee, a tisane made from the seeds of the coffee plant"
putting the milk in first could be a sign of professionalism and skill, showing the confidence of the tea brewer to make it perfect that way
I swear, For a moment I though this was 'The History Guy'
Swetang Sharma haha my first thought when I saw the bookshelf behind him lol
Except he is a American and lives not too far from St.Louis Missouri. about as mid-western as it gets.
But it is worth noting that the history of tea making & drinking etiquettes is, in itself, a history that deserves to be remembered.
@@UXB1000 lolz, I read that in his voice..
A man that knows everything there is to know about British fire arms telling me (as a Brit) how to make tea. Just what I needed in my life.
I've already been raked over the coals by George Orwell on this subject... =P
As a coffee person, I couldn't care less about milk in tea. I do have something to say about pour-over, french press, Mr. Coffee, Bunn, or percolator. They're all OK. But the best way to make coffee is in a n enamelware coffee pot over a wood fire in the outdoors. Grind the coffee beans in your cast-iron frying pan with the butt of your six-shooter, pour the grounds into the pot, drop the eggshells from your fried eggs into the grounds, fill the pot with water and wait until it boils. The egg shells keep the grounds at the bottom and you can pour a mug of real coffee.
We stretch goal: Jonathan adds a section to his book about the proper way to make a cup of tea. "Ian is of course not British". No, he's French! 🤣🤣🤣
If you need to see the colour in order to judge the strength it means you probably make tea rarely.
In years gone by, my mother, aunts, in fact every adult female could make tea of the precise strength desired consistently, routinely.
That's why "milk in first" was de rigueur.
I was going to say I have the same brightly coloured C96, as featured on your shelf, but mine has a yellow barrel and lower receiver, green mag, blue grips, and a green upper. As for the milk debate, I only make tea in a pot when I go visit the old parents, and they favour Rington's and it's a fairly robust blend, so I add milk afterwards so I can judge the colour of the brew.
Several years ago, while at the tiny English village of Castle Bolton - named for nearby Bolton Castle - I got to see a trio of workmen repairing the roof on the castle, take their tea break on the roof of the castle... and they poured the milk in last. The most impressive part was that they hoisted the entire tea service(!) from the courtyard floor to the roof - and the entire tea service appeared to be bone china! - using a rope and a basket. I can't imagine an American crew going to such lengths to maintain proper civility under similar circumstances. Loved the video.
Ah yes, this is the content we've all been waiting for! 😊 and I'm strangely proud of seeing my comment featured in the opening of the video 😁
I find it quite hilarious that a simple video of making a cup of tea can cause more controversy on a weapons related channel than confusing clips and magazines, your audience is always capable of surprising you 😊
Alas, during my entire time in Wales (1.5 years) I was never served tea like you make it. I know, I know, “... but they’re Welsh!” So? I became addicted to tea and it’s my go to 45 years later. I now do evaporated milk last in a strong black tea sweetened with honey. Heaven in a large mug!
Society: Ferguson, dont put milk in first!
Ferguson: But but....Ian does it too!
Lol. I cant wait for the book. I already preordered mine. I am excited about all the stretch goals being made and the extras. Keep it up
Tea debate on forgotten weapons... THIS IS THE BEST CHANNEL EVER!!
How to make proper tea?
Throw it into a harbor.
I'm glad I am not the only one that was gonna say that!
That’s right and then pour yourself some whiskey after that’s done!
Here in the USA, very few American restaurants will even give you a pot with your tea, if you are lucky you will get a small stainless steel pitcher with hot water from the coffee maker already in it. Along with it you get a coffee cup and an individually wrapped tea bag and some tiny half-&-half containers. If unlucky, most often, you will just get a cup of hot water and a tea bag on the side with small containers of non-dairy creamer. That, my friends, is how a proper heathen drinks tea. :D
My English former wife educated me on the subject of proper tea making and dissuaded me from my heathen ways which I learned from watching my first generation Irish-American grandmother. So I now use a small pot to make tea in and I put the milk in the cup first. I have tried it both ways and I prefer the milk in first because I put cold milk in directly from the jug out of the refrigerator, this allows the milk to warm while the tea is brewing. Cold milk doesn't mix as well with hot tea, I find. But, still being an American, I put a common Lipton tea bag in the pot.
Having visited Britain and stayed at some of their fine bed and breakfasts and also visiting many other local eating establishments I discovered that in England and Wales I always received a small pot of tea with my order, even in a shopping center canteen; but in Scotland, it was common to receive a bag in a cup with no pot at all, which is probably the source of our American style, forget the pot, straight in the cup, tea tradition.
I know nothing about tea but I think the best method is drinking coffee instead
I can only agree sir
burn the heretic
With a tiny dash of strong alcohol on occasion.
It depends on the time of day. Coffee before noon, black teas until mid afternoon, then reds and sweet tea until dinner.
An interesting Tea related piece of history is the very upper class act of poking your little finger outwards as you hold the cup and drink the tea. IT actually goes back to med-evil times when you ate with your right hand. You would use your little finger to take salt, pepper or spices from a communal receptical to add to your food. Poking the little finger outwards as you ate demonstrated to everyone you were keeping your 'salt finger' clean.
Forgotten Weapons: Teatime Edition...
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Hey, didn't we have a war so we wouldn't have to deal with this?
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I never got use to tea... Too much seawater.
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The Queen puts the milk in last? Isn't she German?
That's how you know it's the correct way, because germans always follow the rules ;)
Canadian here. Milk goes in first, then honey, then teabag, then boiling water is poured over it. If you put the right amount of milk in to begin with you won't have a problem!
You can never trust a “milk in first” person.
$600,000 stretch goal. Proper tea making etiquette and how to make a suitable cup of tea to drink while reading the book.
I steep in a french press. I'm a heathen.
The tea doesn't catch fire?!?
*upper lip stiffens*
You WHAT!?
Hahaha I like you
God burst me and set me alight! You do what?!
As a heathen American, I often drink tea from a microwaved mug of water, no milk, while leaving the bag in the whole time.
@ben501st honestly I don't really see any issues with that, was staying at some friends in Iowa and it was quicker to nuke my tea than it was to use either of their damn kettles.
You put in milk last because otherwise you don't know how much you need.
Just like corn flakes, it really is that simple.
"Palaver... Frankly, the only word for it." Lol. Virtually no Americans know what that is (self included), but it seems very appropriate to include in a very British discussion about tea.
*leaves a note saying*
"I warm up my 3+ tea in microwave"
*Leaves into the unknown to be never found and to perform more heresy*
Ps
I also mix tea types.
I've done it myself, I don't get the fuzz.
Its literately just adding energy back into the water.
Its brown water with a bit of flavour. lol
@@TheArchaos If the tea's black, you're probably right. Somehow microwaving tea with milk in it makes it taste like crap.
Philistine
I do it with coffee. It's much faster and actually tastes better than any other method.
You HERETIC! 😆
We need a forgotten etiquette channel.
I really found this interesting. I've lived in Britain all my life, but I've never been a fan of tea. I can't say I'd ever known of people pouring milk in first so the class warfare aspect was particularly surprising to me.
I was brought up with always putting milk in first and I can taste when someones put the milk in 2nd!
My parents are from the North but I grew up in London and quite a lot of my friends put milk in first. Maybe it's a North/South thing?
@@colobossable Perhaps? But I'm from London and have lived in the South all my life so if your northern friends are the ones putting the milk in first that would make sense?
That is because of the mikl dear. It messes the whole thing up.
According to my Scottish grand aunt, who was working class by the way, adding the milk first reduces staining of the teacup making clean up easier. of course this is a lower class thing because the upper-class do not clean their own teacups!
Screw tea, drink whiskey.
Put whiskey in the tea.
Dear Jonathan
I'm a Brit (resident in Canada for many years) who apparently started drinking tea as a toddler! I come from a working class background and all my family put the milk in first and we still do! I would also argue that I can reliably judge the strength of tea by the colour as it comes out of the pot, so the milk in first is not a worry, and given I usually make the tea and use the same brand (Yorkshire Tea), there is no guesswork. However which goes in first really does not bother me at all as long as it is a good quality tea and was made with boiling rather than "hot" water.
My research has revealed the following reasons for the "working class" putting the milk in first and the toffs putting it in after the tea. Folks of humble means generally used cups etc made of stoneware because they could not afford fine bone china (porcelain) which is what the wealthy classes used. Porcelain is much more tolerant of heat shock than stoneware, hence the hot tea could go in the cup first with little worry of the cup cracking and the milk follow afterwards. Stoneware however could crack with the sudden heat shock. Thus if the milk goes in first, the hot tea is less likely to shock the cup. Seems a reasonable argument to me as a friend who is a potter agreed with the basic logic, albeit he noted today's modern stoneware is a more heat shock tolerant material than what was around in the late Victorian age.
Greatly looking forward to getting my copy of your upcoming book. I have handled the EM 2's and the 4.85 mm specimens owned by the Canadian War Museum in Ottawa after arranging a special visit a few years ago! I also have a samples of the .280 and 4.85 mm cartridges (deactivated) in my collection.
Best wishes
Paul
Hi Paul - yes, I do believe you're correct and my quick and dirty assessment was lacking; people at least believed that cracking was a risk and so the working classes ended up doing the milk thing. I've yet to find hard proof though. Hope you enjoy the book!
I poor in milk first for my coffee. It mixes nicely, so you don’t need a spoon.
Now I get it that it’s mostly banter, but you never know with the Brits. But you do realise it makes no difference, right?
Makes no difference like adding milk before cereal?
lattimore27 if I knew how much milk I needed, then yes, what you said.
That's what I was trying to say in the video; either way's fine provided your tea is strong enough and in a pot!
Milk first for Coffee, Don't want to Scald the Beans
A man who feels his Britishness is under attack when tea is concerned will do for me.
Personally all I put in my tea, is tea. Same goes for coffee, I want coffee and nothing else. Twining's Earl Grey is my favorite.
If it’s Earl grey then it’s not tea. It’s water.
This is the strangest forgotten weapons episode, ever.
Thank you!
Where's the: ice, lemon, and sugar, though?
I see Mr. Flibble is watching over his left shoulder to make sure he makes the tea right
"Some theapots comes with built in..."
Republican views?
"Tea cozies"
Oh yeah, that...
When I drink tea, I start with my giant coffee mug I got at Dollar Tree that holds nearly 1.5 pints of liquid. I then fill it with whatever water is nearest me, be it the tap, filtered water from the fridge or that radiator fluid I've been meaning to recycle for the past 8 months. I chuck the mug and water into the microwave and get a nice boil rolling. Next, I drop in whatever teabag I (usually) blindly selected and steep it for however long it takes me to drink it. I only add sugar if it's peppermint tea. Milk doesn't belong in tea but in coffee, which is better than tea.
Alright, fight amongst yourselves.
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Y'all know, he's still all wrong. Tea is served with ice and 3 cups of sugar per gallon.
No, proper Southern sweet tea is made with simple syrup (sugar dissolved in water until the water can't hold any more sugar). That's liquid bliss.
The other way is swill with sugar granules on the bottom!
Aah America, and it's lust for sugar-coated everything. Or HFCS.
@@Hysteria98 Its a Southern thing. Usually isnt too sweet actually. Best sweet tea is the type served out of an old depression-glass pitcher with assorted sliced fruit
Damn Yankees, real sweet tea is made with molasses not sugar or syrup. (Lol, just causing trouble) But seriously molasses trust me you'll thank me later.
That's not tea that liquid diabeetus! 2 to 2 1/2 cups per gallon is fine.
"My Mother was upper middle class and my Father was a Monkey Hanger."
SAY NO MORE.
It does tend to confuse things.