Their frame is surprisingly good as well. That boost adjustment is no joke. Even their weapons are notoriously easy to use due to low energy cost and recoil.
"Being necessary to the security of a free planet, the right of the people to keep and bear giant fuck off mechs shall not be infringed" -BAWS (Ballin' Ass Weapon Salesmen)
@@cireoath336 Well that's an interesting question. If we try to build something like an MT today, it would be astronomically expensive, but considering that in AC6 universe people have such massive production equipment like Strider and Grids, MTs would probably have a reasonable coast, like a modern armored cars or whatever
The Basho/Jailbreak even look similar to the humanoid MT's BAWS had produced and distributed all over Rubicon, like they just took the base model MT, uparmored it, gave it a head with a sensor suite, then a bigger engine and interchangeable frame parts before selling it. Then when it miraculously worked, every other company was off to the freakin' races on Armored Core development.
I think the elcano connection is the important linchpin here. Elcano is more explicitly RLF oriented, as they stole information from arquebus, and allowed rusty to pilot their magnum opus
Very true, the elcano certain made it clear who they were helping then again i bet the money for all this came from BAWS. I can't imagine the money flowing out of that place with no one else producing mts.
@@armoredcorelore Well we know Elcano was stealing technology from Arquebus, perhaps BAWS agreed to bank roll Elcano for the RLF in exchange for a share of whatever they acquired. After all, the only frame they produced in game is the Basho, which is well behind the times. Perhaps they saw the RLF as a way to steal the technology necessary to modernize?
Yes i found that strange too. Then again maybe its something to do with game coding that needed to give that ac its look. Honestly while neat i think i would have liked another frame rather then a a worse basho frame.
Baws and their incredibly high amount of melee specialization makes this company have a soft spot for me. Even though the Basho arms got a nerf in the defence area, the heavyweight "Salad" arm got a buff. Made a build today and I must admit that being in favour of heavy ACs helps a lot in melee fights!
Yeah i can see being big and bulky being good for up close and personal fights. Its just a shame the basho seemed to be the only ac they made and then went. You know that's it, no more ac for us. But to be honest if i was the only corporation pumping out mts and they were selling like hotcake. I think I'd stop working on ac's too.
lol I do this alot, I apologize. The arms I refer to in question are part of the RaD line but I always get them mixed up. Mostly because I switch to the second last logo screen for their decals and select the one that says: "BAWS RaD" with Rubiconian written on the bottom@@armoredcorelore
Stranger too since their MTs have a laser blade of their own. It seems similar to the design of the one ALLMIND uses on it's IBIS series mech that both Ayre used in her ending and Iguazu used when he merged with it.@@lawsontse1545
Basho gives me a little bit of an Armored Trooper VOTOMS vibe. Great show that influenced a bit of Armored Core along other shows. The arms having high melee stats but BAWS having little melee weapons reminds me how the Scopedogs from VOTOMS have piston fists for CQC but no melee weapons. I wish we can get a model kit of the Basho once they start releasing 30 Minute Mission kits for AC6.
The Basho reminds me of how ACs looked in older games, boxy and clunky, so the in-universe nostalgia could be derived from people who played the old Playstation 1 and 2 AC titles.
@@armoredcoreloreseems like almost every corporation in this game takes a design philosophy from one of the various generations of Armored Core; BAWS: Gen 1 (the boxy and simple design aesthethic, with easy to use weaponry ["Core Theory"]) BALAM: Gen 2 (their AC parts are pretty much a high resolution recreation the starter set from AC2) Arquebus: Gen 3/3.5 (They and their subsidiaries have the more rounded look that the higher resolution games were able to achieve with better graphics, also utilize more beam weaponry) Schneider/Elcano: Gen 4 (their ACs are usually faster and more agile than all the others, like mini NEXTs, and focus on lighter-weight weaponry overall) Dafeng: Gen 5 (an emphasis on more defensive, heavier ACs, like the armor-plated ACs of ACV and Verdict Day, and equally high-power weapons to counter all that armor) RaD, ALLMIND, and Rubicon Research don't really have a definable era of Armored Core that their designs fit into.
it's really surprising BAWS doesn't produce a melee weapon for their ACs. hell, if you include all the rubiconian corporations, the only melee weapon they've produced is the DOUBLE TROUBLE.
@@armoredcorelore there is a bit of a fun theory about that, the second letter in the RaD parts names, (C, S, B, R) correspond to each of the RaD characters (carla, stick, brute, rummy). it can be inferred that the RaD characters designed the parts that have their letter on them, so DOUBLE TROUBLE might've been designed by "honest" brute specifically
@@eclipserepeater2466 it's charming to think that the early days of AC combat was more like Patlabor, and had a lot of hand-to-hand fighting against heavy construction MTs
BAWS are one of my favorites just alone for their BASHO AC. I ended using a BASHO AC for the majority of my NG+ and NG++ playthroughs as I really liked how the BASHO chest piece had really good booster efficiency without having to sacrafice as much on AP. Also having the best melee arms helps a ton as well.
if you take into consideration thats baws developed an outdated Armored core Model that stands little chance against new models. makes me realize how dangerous Thumb really is.
It isn't they are weak by any means, granted. They aren't super great if your up close and personal But they do alot of good for reload and speed builds funny enough
@@Year_of_the_Dell i'm mostly talking about the more realistic nature of the baws models that isn't related in-game traits. i get that they have good AP and good Melee stats for skilled pilots. in-game. but taking into the realistic nature of it: even both iguazu and Volta mockingly remark that the Busho model is no different than an MT they use as target practice. you'll even notice that pilots like Index and Little Ziyi are placed at the bottom of the ranks due to their restriction using Baws Models, while their more experienced fighters: Middle Flatwell, Ring freddie, and , Rokumonsen use the newer Elcano models. but putting a more realistic perspective and not game logic, Thumb Dolmayan was a dangerous Pilot than he appears.
@@HeyPachuco see i understand what your saying but will refute that you are severely misframing evidence, Index has been recorded as being a Better foreman than a AC pilot, Ziyi is a Teenage Soldier who pretty much just picked it up one day neither of whom are augmented and Generally have no idea about how that changes the situation Volta and Igauzu...yes they do trash talk these ACs...just like they will trash talk yours and get told to shut up by G1 as they are still dangerous. Rokumonsen doesn't use elanco atleast not purely and shouldn't be counted among them as he is technically a independant. And seasoned vet of allminds programs Thumb is by all acounts used to ACs he was a Doser, he Had his own Event eith the Coral, he leads this from the front and preaches yes but thats just him Also Middle Flatwell does have a BASHO frame in one set and does well with it until we scrap it. To say people are 'restricted by the model they use' is rather in bad taste here since the RLF has been holding the wall with BASHOs the Juggernaut and MTs long before we show up and Elanco is a secret weapon that isn't even ready yet so of course not everyone gets one, the only time we see them in story is when Ring Freddie gets dumb and tries to poke the wall security and when Rusty comes in at the end Hell BAWS is literally bank rolling Elanco so they can make more parts for the big push it isn't the mech it is the pilot just not measuring up or being experienced enough to maintain. cause otherwise by your logic Rummy should be way higher since he uses BALAM parts and has been the doorman to Carlas op for a good long time
@@Year_of_the_Dell "see i understand what your saying but will refute that you are severely misframing evidence, Index has been recorded as being a Better foreman than a AC pilot, Ziyi is a Teenage Soldier who pretty much just picked it up one day neither of whom are augmented and Generally have n" Hence why they were given Busho models, because they were inexperienced, and the experienced pilots were given Elcano Models. that itself is still evidence that they don't think highly of Busho models because they're outdated and under performed (realistically) by the newer models fit for Experienced and skilled fighters. "Volta and Igauzu...yes they do trash talk these ACs...just like they will trash talk yours and get told to shut up by G1 as they are still dangerous." except they never talked shit about your AC, they were talking shit about your character, you worked for the infamous Handler walter known for killing off his pilots and has no real affiliations, a low ranked nobody who for some reason caught the respect of G1 michigan, while wondering what made you so special. "Rokumonsen doesn't use elanco atleast not purely and shouldn't be counted among them as he is technically a independant. And seasoned" Doesn't really change the fact that he uses an elcano based model with a body modification of allmind. Quote: A wandering independent mercenary who shelters with the Rubicon Liberation Front. Well versed in long-lost classical theater, he has a particular interest in "ninjas" and "kabuki," relics of the past that he learned of from the Japanese immigrant culture which now heavily influences his eccentric style. Once, when Rokumonsen was on the brink of starvation, he was rescued by Ziyi, who offered him food and shelter-and ever since that day, he has been the sworn enemy of those who would do her and her comrades harm. (still a full indication that despite his independency, he's still heavily affiliated with the RLF and gave him the AC.) "Thumb is by all acounts used to ACs he was a Doser, he Had his own Event eith the Coral, he lead this from the front " That was my point...lol. that's what made him dangerous to begin with. had he been given the elcano (or any new gen ACs) he would of been an S tier pilot...maybe nnot as good as King, Freud or G1 Michigan, but nonetheless a s rank pilot...instead he fully utilized a Busho model and still kicked ass with it, while everyone else either thinks or knows that its a Model that won't get them very far in Conflicts... "Also Middle Flatwell does have a BASHO frame in one set and does well with it." you mean the Yaba generator? that hardly counts, since he's still using a FULL FIRMEZA frame which still proves my point... "To say people are 'restricted by the model they use' is rather in bad taste here since the RLF has been holding the wall with BASHOs the Juggernaut and MTs long before we show up" if you watch code geass and compare a gen 4 Burai vs a gen 5 Gekka you'll understand what standards i was trying to make here..... "cause otherwise by your logic Rummy should be way higher since he uses BALAM parts" actually he's using Dafeng Parts, mixed with Poorly modifications of the Wrecker arms and Legs, and a gen 1 BAWs generator barely able to even lift him or move around the area for his melee lunges. added in to the fact that he's more high on Coral than any dosser on rubicon, he's essentially Killdozer in ACFA, kills anything, chases anything, and doesn't think about anything but stomping you. which in turn makes him unable to perform well against other pilots like little ziyi and Index who at least have better judgement than rummy does. but little Ziyi was too emotional as a fighter, and index wasn't an experienced fighter. but at least they arn't crackheads like rummy.
the Basho is rly just an slightly upscaled version of the various BAWS MTs, replacing the head-weapon mount either artillery or missile launcher for a head camera. i know they aint 1:1 the same, but they still look very similar in the end....
Pretty much with the basho being an older ac model to come from mts. I think sharing that similar look is quite cool and shows the history of armored core creation here well.
I just found your channel via Cleric Armored Core and I'm so glad! I'm developing a fan-made dating sim based on AC6 and these videos are so helpful in my research!
Cleric is an awesome ac youtuber so i am glad hear this. Happy the videos are helping with research too. Please do you'll let me know when the dating sim is out as I'd love to give it a playthrough.
Very informative video. I love it. I can see why the Rubicon Liberation Front has a heart on BAWS. They believe everyone, no matter what faction or government, should have mt's. What I am really looking for are normals.
I’d imagine that any corporation involved in such a scenario would be concerned about one thing in general: profit. As long as you have money, the world opens up to you, and that wouldn’t be any different on Rubicon. My guess is that BAWS did have many people who were sympathetic to the RLF since they shared the planet for a long time, but their number one goal was making sure they were in business and just found the Rubiconian sympathy angle as a way to appeal to Elcano getting involved along with straight cash. In a sense, everyone wins: The RLF sympathizers get their ally they need to help combat Arquebus and Balam, and BAWS gets to kick competition off the planet while also being friends with a next-gen AC part company. Note that the Houkushi generator was made with Elcano’s help. That means now BAWS has access to an ally who can help them develop next gen AC tech. If From Software create a direct sequel to this game like what happened with the fourth and fifth entries, I’d imagine BAWS will have some more high tech equipment in their arsenal during that time.
Sure i can get behind this thought, but i did want to explore the angle of them being possible sympathetic to Front's cause or maybe some home pride in the video. I like to think it added more meat to the bones of BAWS lore and opened up them more for discussions and thoughts. As for what come next well let's hope no another long sleep for ac while they decided what to do with it.
My headcanon is that post-liberator of rubicon ending, BAWS/Elcano ends up becoming the flagship corporation of a burgeoning military industrial complex on Rubicon as the RLF transitions from a guerilla force to a rank and file military organization.
@@armoredcorelore it was from software's most underrated game, some of its design choices would inspire some of the design choices of ACV and ACVD. the only reason it sort of failed was because IGN slandered it with a minimal run on the online multiplayer which was the real selling point of the game.
Dont forget there thumb dolmayan's ac on investigate baws factory above. After u fight with 3 hiding ghost dont go in to the next stage, just go up. And saw the lying head down wrecked AC
RLF: Hey... Do yo have, idk some new Armored Core model that I can buy? BAWS: ACs?! HAHAHAHAHA NAHHHHH Who need ACs? What you need is MTs lots and lots of them and look There is an army of those old reliable fellow right there, come come RLF: Maaaan I should have go to Elcano
Late reply to the video but for a company like BAWS designing arms that were almost entirely designed for a melee induced combat and close range fighting. They severely lacked in making melee weapons
@@armoredcorelore I hope if a DLC or second 6th gen AC game makes it in we see more about the Rubiconian Corporations, or an expanded range of weaponry that was previously unavailable regardless. Still loved the game like previous titles.
Oh you know me, From could let me just wander around the factories or bases as a normal person and i would spend hours taking it all. Give me masked npc too that spout lore or everyday things and I'd be gone for hours.
I swear Fromsoft kinda dropped the ball on their products, at least have another AC model, maybe a shoddy attempt at remaking the Ephemera. At least then Dunam, Zi Yi and Domayan can mix and match into their own thing and not just "BASHO but with different bits".
I would have liked more ac from Baws. But maybe there was not enough time or focus went somewhere else for the team. Shame really as more boxy ac's would have been neat.
The truth is we never actually seen how muscle tracers work on the inside as such we theorise its somehow connected with a pilot muscles to mimic movement. In the tetrapods case and this is my wild guess that it works like crab legs do. So if the left leg muscles of the pilot move, in turn the craft crawls left. The same can be said with the right. For forwards and backwords it might be the case that both legs of the pilot have to move forward or backward causing all legs to have to move the same way or having to just boosters to move forward and backwards since crabs do really walk forwards or backwards. On the other hand it could be controlled by a control stick or two since the pilot has to work the weapons too if they are alone. If not then maybe a driver and a gunner?
@@murunbuchstanzangur It could well be well in the tetrapods case anyway. As old bishop mts we see back in ac1 and to be fair even here in ac6 now named Mt t 026 i am guessing would be able to controlled by a single pilot.
I enjoyed the Basho greatly and wished BAWS had a later model with a similar design philosophy like all the other corps, but sadly, we instead got a busted junk version of the Basho. AC6 did BAWS dirty.
You know i would have to agree with you there. I enjoyed the small time i had with the ac, so it would have been nice to get another Basho model ac which was not the junk one.
ngl some of the baws parts like kikaku, kyorai and kyoriku being pronounced the way they were in the video weirded me out but hey, more armored core content is never a bad thing~
Well i listened to a few pronounces guides and went with them. To be honest i will keep trying to learn the correct way to say these names, but its going to take a while.
imma be honest, BAWS having a team with biggest brains created the miracle generator that literally can run everything, the Hokushi lmao
It is a pretty sweet generator. I admit i enjoyed my time with my BAWS ac.
Their frame is surprisingly good as well. That boost adjustment is no joke. Even their weapons are notoriously easy to use due to low energy cost and recoil.
Tbf the Hokushi used to be really underwhelming, it got buffed in a patch so that's a bit of a retcon.
@@ktvx.94it was good before now it’s insane
@@ktvx.94indeed, it was once of the worst gen to run due to it's lack of Capacity like around 2k7.
"Being necessary to the security of a free planet, the right of the people to keep and bear giant fuck off mechs shall not be infringed" -BAWS (Ballin' Ass Weapon Salesmen)
Got to stand by that sales policy ha ha.
The Toyota of ACs
Ha ha.
BAWS in a nutshell: WE SHOULD ALL HAVE MTs! YOU GET THE MTs! YOU GET THE MTs! EVERYONE GET THE MTs!!!
Only if you have our money ha ha.
How much does a single MT cost?
@@cireoath336 Well that's an interesting question. If we try to build something like an MT today, it would be astronomically expensive, but considering that in AC6 universe people have such massive production equipment like Strider and Grids, MTs would probably have a reasonable coast, like a modern armored cars or whatever
The Basho/Jailbreak even look similar to the humanoid MT's BAWS had produced and distributed all over Rubicon, like they just took the base model MT, uparmored it, gave it a head with a sensor suite, then a bigger engine and interchangeable frame parts before selling it. Then when it miraculously worked, every other company was off to the freakin' races on Armored Core development.
Yeah pretty much. Little did they know their little armored mt would end up creating monsters of war that would some day take over planets.
BAWS takes pride in its neutrality. However, the corporation has a soft spot for the RLF. Ziyi, Index, and Thumb pilot the BASHO.
I think the elcano connection is the important linchpin here. Elcano is more explicitly RLF oriented, as they stole information from arquebus, and allowed rusty to pilot their magnum opus
Maybe but I'll be honest i feel BAWS had an alterative motive for helping the front and bank rolling Elcano.
Very true, the elcano certain made it clear who they were helping then again i bet the money for all this came from BAWS. I can't imagine the money flowing out of that place with no one else producing mts.
BAWS also sells parts to Corporate and Independent Pilots, most of them just prefer the more advanced parts of extraplanetary production.
@@armoredcorelore Well we know Elcano was stealing technology from Arquebus, perhaps BAWS agreed to bank roll Elcano for the RLF in exchange for a share of whatever they acquired. After all, the only frame they produced in game is the Basho, which is well behind the times. Perhaps they saw the RLF as a way to steal the technology necessary to modernize?
Is it just me, or the sound "armoredcorelore" just sounds happy
It makes me happy =)
Killing enemies, like a BAWS
Nice.
I always found it strange that the JAILBREAK AC was listed down as its own separate set of frame parts when it's just a patched-up junker BASHO.
Yes i found that strange too. Then again maybe its something to do with game coding that needed to give that ac its look. Honestly while neat i think i would have liked another frame rather then a a worse basho frame.
It would've been interesting to see what a prototype BASHO would've looked like. I picture a beefed-up form of their standard bipedal MT.
@@ACFoxeye Now that would be cool and some lore behind the process too. Oh the dream.
BAWS gun design philosophy: big magazine and AK
Got to hit something if you fire so many bullets and have the ammo to keep on firing.
Ah, yes, Baws. The all-around selling company that makes ACs that look like children's Robot Toys like that WALL-E head.
Its cute in a way.
Baws and their incredibly high amount of melee specialization makes this company have a soft spot for me. Even though the Basho arms got a nerf in the defence area, the heavyweight "Salad" arm got a buff. Made a build today and I must admit that being in favour of heavy ACs helps a lot in melee fights!
Yeah i can see being big and bulky being good for up close and personal fights. Its just a shame the basho seemed to be the only ac they made and then went. You know that's it, no more ac for us. But to be honest if i was the only corporation pumping out mts and they were selling like hotcake. I think I'd stop working on ac's too.
Weird that Basho has such high melee spec yet they make no Melee weapons
lol I do this alot, I apologize. The arms I refer to in question are part of the RaD line but I always get them mixed up. Mostly because I switch to the second last logo screen for their decals and select the one that says: "BAWS RaD" with Rubiconian written on the bottom@@armoredcorelore
Stranger too since their MTs have a laser blade of their own. It seems similar to the design of the one ALLMIND uses on it's IBIS series mech that both Ayre used in her ending and Iguazu used when he merged with it.@@lawsontse1545
@@azurespectrum1985 No apologies needed azure, we all do it.
Basho gives me a little bit of an Armored Trooper VOTOMS vibe. Great show that influenced a bit of Armored Core along other shows. The arms having high melee stats but BAWS having little melee weapons reminds me how the Scopedogs from VOTOMS have piston fists for CQC but no melee weapons.
I wish we can get a model kit of the Basho once they start releasing 30 Minute Mission kits for AC6.
Well i will have to take your word for that as never watched armored trooper votoms and more model kits are always good in my books.
The Basho reminds me of how ACs looked in older games, boxy and clunky, so the in-universe nostalgia could be derived from people who played the old Playstation 1 and 2 AC titles.
Ac games within the ac universe ha ha. How cool would that be.
@@armoredcoreloreseems like almost every corporation in this game takes a design philosophy from one of the various generations of Armored Core;
BAWS: Gen 1 (the boxy and simple design aesthethic, with easy to use weaponry ["Core Theory"])
BALAM: Gen 2 (their AC parts are pretty much a high resolution recreation the starter set from AC2)
Arquebus: Gen 3/3.5 (They and their subsidiaries have the more rounded look that the higher resolution games were able to achieve with better graphics, also utilize more beam weaponry)
Schneider/Elcano: Gen 4 (their ACs are usually faster and more agile than all the others, like mini NEXTs, and focus on lighter-weight weaponry overall)
Dafeng: Gen 5 (an emphasis on more defensive, heavier ACs, like the armor-plated ACs of ACV and Verdict Day, and equally high-power weapons to counter all that armor)
RaD, ALLMIND, and Rubicon Research don't really have a definable era of Armored Core that their designs fit into.
@@armoredcorelore Almost definitely would be many, like tank and jet games in real life.
it's really surprising BAWS doesn't produce a melee weapon for their ACs. hell, if you include all the rubiconian corporations, the only melee weapon they've produced is the DOUBLE TROUBLE.
I mean it is a Carla's group creation, those mad people made some crazy stuff for thier ac's.
Maybe the Basho is just intended to punch everything to death? :p
@@armoredcorelore there is a bit of a fun theory about that, the second letter in the RaD parts names, (C, S, B, R) correspond to each of the RaD characters (carla, stick, brute, rummy). it can be inferred that the RaD characters designed the parts that have their letter on them, so DOUBLE TROUBLE might've been designed by "honest" brute specifically
@@eclipserepeater2466 it's charming to think that the early days of AC combat was more like Patlabor, and had a lot of hand-to-hand fighting against heavy construction MTs
@@attenboro_8371 Its a cool theory and i still need to watch patlabor. I have so much mech anime to catch up on ha ha.
BAWS are one of my favorites just alone for their BASHO AC. I ended using a BASHO AC for the majority of my NG+ and NG++ playthroughs as I really liked how the BASHO chest piece had really good booster efficiency without having to sacrafice as much on AP. Also having the best melee arms helps a ton as well.
Sounds fair to me. With my little time with the Basho, it is a solid ac to work with.
They miss the golden opportunity to have "Lick Ma BAWS" as their slogan.
EDIT: BASHO frame is just buffed Wall-E. You can't change my mind.
I am sure someone thought of it in the meeting and who am i to say wall-e did not hit the gym.
Someone made the Basho look like Soundwave, and I’m all for it
But I think someone did a wall-e as well
if you take into consideration thats baws developed an outdated Armored core Model that stands little chance against new models.
makes me realize how dangerous Thumb really is.
It isn't they are weak by any means, granted. They aren't super great if your up close and personal
But they do alot of good for reload and speed builds funny enough
@@Year_of_the_Dell i'm mostly talking about the more realistic nature of the baws models that isn't related in-game traits.
i get that they have good AP and good Melee stats for skilled pilots. in-game.
but taking into the realistic nature of it: even both iguazu and Volta mockingly remark that the Busho model is no different than an MT they use as target practice.
you'll even notice that pilots like Index and Little Ziyi are placed at the bottom of the ranks due to their restriction using Baws Models, while their more experienced fighters: Middle Flatwell, Ring freddie, and , Rokumonsen use the newer Elcano models.
but putting a more realistic perspective and not game logic, Thumb Dolmayan was a dangerous Pilot than he appears.
@@HeyPachuco see i understand what your saying but will refute that you are severely misframing evidence, Index has been recorded as being a Better foreman than a AC pilot, Ziyi is a Teenage Soldier who pretty much just picked it up one day neither of whom are augmented and Generally have no idea about how that changes the situation
Volta and Igauzu...yes they do trash talk these ACs...just like they will trash talk yours and get told to shut up by G1 as they are still dangerous.
Rokumonsen doesn't use elanco atleast not purely and shouldn't be counted among them as he is technically a independant. And seasoned vet of allminds programs
Thumb is by all acounts used to ACs he was a Doser, he Had his own Event eith the Coral, he leads this from the front and preaches yes but thats just him
Also Middle Flatwell does have a BASHO frame in one set and does well with it until we scrap it.
To say people are 'restricted by the model they use' is rather in bad taste here since the RLF has been holding the wall with BASHOs the Juggernaut and MTs long before we show up and Elanco is a secret weapon that isn't even ready yet so of course not everyone gets one, the only time we see them in story is when Ring Freddie gets dumb and tries to poke the wall security and when Rusty comes in at the end
Hell BAWS is literally bank rolling Elanco so they can make more parts for the big push
it isn't the mech it is the pilot just not measuring up or being experienced enough to maintain.
cause otherwise by your logic Rummy should be way higher since he uses BALAM parts and has been the doorman to Carlas op for a good long time
@@Year_of_the_Dell
"see i understand what your saying but will refute that you are severely misframing evidence, Index has been recorded as being a Better foreman than a AC pilot, Ziyi is a Teenage Soldier who pretty much just picked it up one day neither of whom are augmented and Generally have n"
Hence why they were given Busho models, because they were inexperienced, and the experienced pilots were given Elcano Models. that itself is still evidence that they don't think highly of Busho models because they're outdated and under performed (realistically) by the newer models fit for Experienced and skilled fighters.
"Volta and Igauzu...yes they do trash talk these ACs...just like they will trash talk yours and get told to shut up by G1 as they are still dangerous."
except they never talked shit about your AC, they were talking shit about your character, you worked for the infamous Handler walter known for killing off his pilots and has no real affiliations, a low ranked nobody who for some reason caught the respect of G1 michigan, while wondering what made you so special.
"Rokumonsen doesn't use elanco atleast not purely and shouldn't be counted among them as he is technically a independant. And seasoned"
Doesn't really change the fact that he uses an elcano based model with a body modification of allmind. Quote: A wandering independent mercenary who shelters with the Rubicon Liberation Front.
Well versed in long-lost classical theater, he has a particular interest in "ninjas" and "kabuki," relics of the past that he learned of from the Japanese immigrant culture which now heavily influences his eccentric style.
Once, when Rokumonsen was on the brink of starvation, he was rescued by Ziyi, who offered him food and shelter-and ever since that day, he has been the sworn enemy of those who would do her and her comrades harm. (still a full indication that despite his independency, he's still heavily affiliated with the RLF and gave him the AC.)
"Thumb is by all acounts used to ACs he was a Doser, he Had his own Event eith the Coral, he lead this from the front "
That was my point...lol. that's what made him dangerous to begin with. had he been given the elcano (or any new gen ACs) he would of been an S tier pilot...maybe nnot as good as King, Freud or G1 Michigan, but nonetheless a s rank pilot...instead he fully utilized a Busho model and still kicked ass with it, while everyone else either thinks or knows that its a Model that won't get them very far in Conflicts...
"Also Middle Flatwell does have a BASHO frame in one set and does well with it."
you mean the Yaba generator? that hardly counts, since he's still using a FULL FIRMEZA frame which still proves my point...
"To say people are 'restricted by the model they use' is rather in bad taste here since the RLF has been holding the wall with BASHOs the Juggernaut and MTs long before we show up"
if you watch code geass and compare a gen 4 Burai vs a gen 5 Gekka you'll understand what standards i was trying to make here.....
"cause otherwise by your logic Rummy should be way higher since he uses BALAM parts"
actually he's using Dafeng Parts, mixed with Poorly modifications of the Wrecker arms and Legs, and a gen 1 BAWs generator barely able to even lift him or move around the area for his melee lunges. added in to the fact that he's more high on Coral than any dosser on rubicon, he's essentially Killdozer in ACFA, kills anything, chases anything, and doesn't think about anything but stomping you. which in turn makes him unable to perform well against other pilots like little ziyi and Index who at least have better judgement than rummy does. but little Ziyi was too emotional as a fighter, and index wasn't an experienced fighter. but at least they arn't crackheads like rummy.
A man of real skill as you say, the guy took out an huge attack helicopter on his own in seconds.
the Basho is rly just an slightly upscaled version of the various BAWS MTs, replacing the head-weapon mount either artillery or missile launcher for a head camera.
i know they aint 1:1 the same, but they still look very similar in the end....
Pretty much with the basho being an older ac model to come from mts. I think sharing that similar look is quite cool and shows the history of armored core creation here well.
Rubicon does not appreciate mercenaries with big sweaty BAWS 😅
Everytime I hear BAWSI think of Cartman from that southpark ep.
A big thank you to twitter.com/DaAppleisBaking for the ending art which shows the next video topic.
Is the next video just about PCA Heavy Cavalry, or everything related to the Planetary Closure Administration?
Everything to do with the PCA. Honest much as i like to do videos on single crafts, there really is not enough there lore wise to make a video.
I just found your channel via Cleric Armored Core and I'm so glad! I'm developing a fan-made dating sim based on AC6 and these videos are so helpful in my research!
Cleric is an awesome ac youtuber so i am glad hear this. Happy the videos are helping with research too.
Please do you'll let me know when the dating sim is out as I'd love to give it a playthrough.
Very informative video. I love it. I can see why the Rubicon Liberation Front has a heart on BAWS. They believe everyone, no matter what faction or government, should have mt's. What I am really looking for are normals.
Thank you and well BAWS certainly have you covered with the mts.
Can't help but be reminded of Squaresoft's logo before the change to Square Enix.
Hmmm you know now you say that.
Before I have to turn RUclips to Elmo videos after dinner with a toddler, I sit by myself and watch armored core lore. 😅
Ha ha know that feeling. Just had to watch an hour of postman pat with my niece before i got back to my own youtube watching.
@@armoredcorelore once the kids go to sleep. That's my time to play games and watch Mecha 😈
@@DamplyDoo Sounds good to me =)
I’d imagine that any corporation involved in such a scenario would be concerned about one thing in general: profit. As long as you have money, the world opens up to you, and that wouldn’t be any different on Rubicon. My guess is that BAWS did have many people who were sympathetic to the RLF since they shared the planet for a long time, but their number one goal was making sure they were in business and just found the Rubiconian sympathy angle as a way to appeal to Elcano getting involved along with straight cash. In a sense, everyone wins: The RLF sympathizers get their ally they need to help combat Arquebus and Balam, and BAWS gets to kick competition off the planet while also being friends with a next-gen AC part company.
Note that the Houkushi generator was made with Elcano’s help. That means now BAWS has access to an ally who can help them develop next gen AC tech. If From Software create a direct sequel to this game like what happened with the fourth and fifth entries, I’d imagine BAWS will have some more high tech equipment in their arsenal during that time.
Sure i can get behind this thought, but i did want to explore the angle of them being possible sympathetic to Front's cause or maybe some home pride in the video. I like to think it added more meat to the bones of BAWS lore and opened up them more for discussions and thoughts. As for what come next well let's hope no another long sleep for ac while they decided what to do with it.
My headcanon is that post-liberator of rubicon ending, BAWS/Elcano ends up becoming the flagship corporation of a burgeoning military industrial complex on Rubicon as the RLF transitions from a guerilla force to a rank and file military organization.
Nice!
Balls
Ah all i can think about is a certain musical when people say this now ha ha.
I like the shockwavezaku look they gave there parts I stuck with them mostly when I played.
Wow, it is so awesome to see your channel is taking off! Your AC interests are really making it happen!
Very kind of you to say Nova, but as always i will say its really thanks to everyone willing to give my videos a chance.
The BAWS heavy MT remind me of the Moskoivan Heavy Quadruped Hound from From Software's other but less fortunate mech game: Chromehounds.
I need to do a lore video on Chromehounds. Just for fun.
@@armoredcorelore it was from software's most underrated game, some of its design choices would inspire some of the design choices of ACV and ACVD.
the only reason it sort of failed was because IGN slandered it with a minimal run on the online multiplayer which was the real selling point of the game.
@@Duke_of_Petchington it a shame as I was not much an online player but I liked the single player. It was different and fun.
Me when I hear: armoredcorelore! 😊
=)
It's literally his catchphrase lmao
I wonder if there is anything on Elcano
To be honest not a lot so far, but the lore hunt is one that never ends.
I’d like to share the fun fact that in Scotland "all" in words often ends up as "aw". And so "BAWS" reads like "balls" to me and I laugh every time
Ha ha well that's kind of neat.
Dont forget there thumb dolmayan's ac on investigate baws factory above. After u fight with 3 hiding ghost dont go in to the next stage, just go up. And saw the lying head down wrecked AC
Nice work on Baws corporation
Thank you.
Thank you for your hard work.
Thank you for the kind praise.
Do you plan to do a PCA video ?
I do in fact the preview for the next video at the end of this one is the very well drawn thumbnail and art for the PCA video this week.
I thought they would have made a tetrapod AC because they made the big tetrapod MTs
Would have given us more acs to mess with.
Mmmh sweet sweet lore
I just wish there was more.
RLF: Hey... Do yo have, idk some new Armored Core model that I can buy?
BAWS: ACs?!
HAHAHAHAHA
NAHHHHH
Who need ACs?
What you need is MTs lots and lots of them and look
There is an army of those old reliable fellow right there, come come
RLF: Maaaan I should have go to Elcano
Ha ha just the poor Basho in the back covered in the dust.
Late reply to the video but for a company like BAWS designing arms that were almost entirely designed for a melee induced combat and close range fighting. They severely lacked in making melee weapons
They did, come on baws ha ha. Ah but to be fair the corporation was more sold to us as a mt factory anyway bless them.
@@armoredcorelore I hope if a DLC or second 6th gen AC game makes it in we see more about the Rubiconian Corporations, or an expanded range of weaponry that was previously unavailable regardless. Still loved the game like previous titles.
Oh you know me, From could let me just wander around the factories or bases as a normal person and i would spend hours taking it all. Give me masked npc too that spout lore or everyday things and I'd be gone for hours.
next time: PCA (A.K.A fans of Gundam)
But you got to admit the ending art was pretty sick.
NOT FEDDIES
Basho arms ftw!
Seriously pile bunker on my left missile launcher or shotgun on my right
They pretty sweet arms, but so few weapons from BAWS.
I swear Fromsoft kinda dropped the ball on their products, at least have another AC model, maybe a shoddy attempt at remaking the Ephemera. At least then Dunam, Zi Yi and Domayan can mix and match into their own thing and not just "BASHO but with different bits".
I would have liked more ac from Baws. But maybe there was not enough time or focus went somewhere else for the team. Shame really as more boxy ac's would have been neat.
So... muscle tracers mimic the movements of their users, right?
So how does the baws tetrapod MT work? What controls the other 2 legs?
The truth is we never actually seen how muscle tracers work on the inside as such we theorise its somehow connected with a pilot muscles to mimic movement. In the tetrapods case and this is my wild guess that it works like crab legs do. So if the left leg muscles of the pilot move, in turn the craft crawls left. The same can be said with the right. For forwards and backwords it might be the case that both legs of the pilot have to move forward or backward causing all legs to have to move the same way or having to just boosters to move forward and backwards since crabs do really walk forwards or backwards.
On the other hand it could be controlled by a control stick or two since the pilot has to work the weapons too if they are alone. If not then maybe a driver and a gunner?
@@armoredcorelore interesting! It could be a semi automated system perhaps?
@@murunbuchstanzangur It could well be well in the tetrapods case anyway. As old bishop mts we see back in ac1 and to be fair even here in ac6 now named Mt t 026 i am guessing would be able to controlled by a single pilot.
I enjoyed the Basho greatly and wished BAWS had a later model with a similar design philosophy like all the other corps, but sadly, we instead got a busted junk version of the Basho. AC6 did BAWS dirty.
You know i would have to agree with you there. I enjoyed the small time i had with the ac, so it would have been nice to get another Basho model ac which was not the junk one.
ngl some of the baws parts like kikaku, kyorai and kyoriku being pronounced the way they were in the video weirded me out
but hey, more armored core content is never a bad thing~
Well i listened to a few pronounces guides and went with them. To be honest i will keep trying to learn the correct way to say these names, but its going to take a while.
These guys give me anaheim electronics vibes
A gundam company in ac?! Ha ha AC and gundam do share a lot of ideas so i can see why.
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Erm the "shi" sounds in BAWS named are pronounced "shee" not "sai". I believe BAWS uses japanese names for their parts.
Is that so, it is fun to learn. And yes the parts are named after famous Japanese poets.
cool :3
Thanks.
The Russian AC'S
My man nerding out with Armored Core epic videos as always
Ha ha thank you for your kind words.
This is Phezzan from Legend of the Galactic Heroes. The goddamn Swiss
Well i just went down a internet rabbit hole to find about all this. It was neat =)