My theory is that the primary mic died and the audio was recorded by the camera's mic. Then they just boosted it in editing. I know nothing about video nor audio, btw.
Yeah, almost sounds like they're using the camera mic. Just checked some older Short Circuit videos and the audio is a bit echo-y on all of them, but not near this level.
You should put song titles & artist names on screen as you're listening to them. Even if you can't play them, it'd be good context to know what you're using to analyse.
that's good idea for reference, especially when they talk element of music they hearing. but, as crinacle said. best music to test audio equipment is music that you familiar with.
Happy to see Crin getting some more recognition. I reviewed the Dusk a while back. The general consensus in the community is that it does sound better with the DSP cable, but sadly the cable adds a lot of noise artifacts that is most noticeable when listening to spoken content, or music where there’s moments of silence. I pointed the noise issue out in my review. The headphone show initially gave it a positive first impression, but later in the full written review on their website by Listener, they also noted how the cable does introduce noise, and they show some measurements to back it up. It’s unfortunate, as otherwise this is a great IEM
The artifact noise comes from the magnetic planar, every single one I've tried no matter the price whether over the ear or in ear always has that horrible noise, some tuning and some cables enhance the noise more than usual
@@mightymushroom4980 it’s from the FreeDSP cable. It’s not present if you’re using it analog. As well I also hear it with other Moondrop IEMs that use that cable, as well as any other IEM when using that specific cable. It’s an artifact that even in measurements , it seems to fluctuate its volume the quieter the surrounding audio is, rather than just a typical noise floor issue that’s always there in the background. Crin is looking into it with moondrop
@@mightymushroom4980 Nope, it's introduced by the DSP cable. The cable also adds the same noise to all other brands of IEMs that it's connected too. With the analogue cables the dusk has none of this noise. Also the noise is not there If you use the same dsp settings introduced through an app without the dsp cable.
I'd like to see Linus check out the $20 entry level IEMs. Like the Hola, Wan'er, and Sal Notes. I think he would be blow away at how good the chi-fi entries have gotten.
People definitely won't buy it for the internal storage. Even the cheaper walkman models or cheaper audio players in general always have a 1 or 2tb supported micro sd card slot.
@@velocity790 When I found this out, I took it as Sony's passive-aggressive response to the fact that they don't give a rat's ass about NA/EU consumers when it comes to portable audio.
@@Dicloneus66 it's something to do with compliance with NA/EU hearing loss law bla bla bla.... If I have a dB for every time I hear about politics, I'll already have hearing loss.
That huge treble peak at around 16khz is actually an artifact of your (and every other) IEM measuring rig, and also, of the shape of the human ear canal. It is something that any isolating (closed-back, rubber-tip) earphone will feature. It happens because of the way in which the frequencies along that range resonate inside of the ear before reaching the eardrum in a human, or the microphone in an ear simulator. You can actually move the peak up or down the frequency range by changing the insertion depth of the IEM into the pinna (and likewise, into your ears), since depending on insertion depth, the frequencies will resonate slightly differently. This peak has been fairly controversial, since: 1) Most people's listening at that high treble range is very subdued or straight up absent 2) Tuning human-hearing-range drivers at that frequency is extremely hard, specially trying to get rid of such a sharp and narrow peak 3) Because the IEM market has had this peak for so long, IEM users are actually used to it, and the treble sounds a bit shallow without it 4) Again, the exact frequency at which the peak happens changes with insertion depth, so tuning it out for all possible users, or even most users, is impractical Some attempts have been made recently to tune it out, but 99% of IEMs keep it because it's not worth fighting it. Word of advice: standarize insertion depth for your IEM measurings!
Yeah this comes up in a lot of their IEM videos. A lot of mention harsh highs or boosted treble just by looking at the graph without any acknowledgement of the pinna and the affect it can have.
Yeah all of this analysing yet its well established that we hear bass less the lower the volume however we call iems that sound good at low volumes boosted junk. Audiophiles are a joke.
So when it comes to length mode resonances in IEMs, it absolutely is an issue that can't easily be solved since depending on the air volume of the individual, the resonance will shift around a lot. It is true that you see these at various intervals in measurements as well, but the solution is not to standardize insertion depth for IEM measurements, rather it's to measure at multiple insertion depths to see how the response changes depending on air volume differences. Additionally, these measurements were done on the B&K 5128, which uses a pinna and real ear canal - notably different from the typical canal extension tube measurements you find with GRAS 711 clones that have a small cylindrical chamber where you in theory could change the insertion depth manually. Whenever you're measuring with the pinna (even on the GRAS systems, as they should be measured), your insertion depth is standardized to where the IEM can physically fit based on the pinna itself. Or in other words, when measuring with a pinna you inherently give every IEM that achieves a seal a reference position with the tips being used. Change the tips, and you can potentially change the reference point. With regards to the Dusk, the massive treble peak isn't just a length mode resonance issue, there's legitimately excess upper treble there, even though there can be length mode resonances higher up as well. A lot of IEMs have this, not merely because of the length mode feature (whose strongest point is often closer to 8khz), but because boosting the upper treble effectively masks the lower treble resonances that occur for individuals. It's one way manufacturers have tried to solve the problem of varying air volumes for individuals due to differing canal sizes. I'm not saying it's the right thing to do, but I can also understand why it's there.
I hate how the paint of my arias has come off. At least they still work, heard some people have had issues with the left side dying on some of their iems.
I like that not only are LTT featuring more enthusiast grade tech on this channel from time to time, but that Crinacle is big enough that his products end up everywhere.
You can use a simple parametric eq to fix the 3.5mm output and make it sound exactly like the usb c one. Crin posted the exact values somewhere. Too lazy to go look. Must be easy to find since I don't even own these iems and still somehow came across that. It's like 3 or 4 bands only.
Just leaving this here to make easier, if you’re on android you can use wavelet, the profile is most likely there already, just plug the headphones in and search, very easy, very useful for headphones overall
As someone who loves eq ing to harman target its so tedious to keep switching to different profiles on different devices each time. the cable is one size fits all
@@pikkyuukyuun4741 yes. But not all devices have a usb c out. Take my desktop for example, I'd have to run some kind of a usb extender cable to be able to use the iems. For me setting up a simple eq in Equalizer APO is much simpler. Just set to the output I use most often for IEMs, and then turn it on & off depending on what I'm using. Takes 10 seconds tops.
@@pikkyuukyuun4741 bro plugging my iems in and switching outputs takes me longer lol. Not to mention hooking them on my ears. That's honestly why I don't switch IEMs more often, cuz it's a hassle. Switching eq profiles is the least of my worries. Alt+Space>type "apo">turn off other eq profile and turn the one I want to use on with 2 clicks.
nah that phone is ass .. specially if u open them it a mess cheap ass battery inside of that phone and using the same dac as their dawn pro which is cs43131
@@Asianese linus tries 5000-dollar headphones from a 20k or so rig and likes them (there were no tests done, which is fine, but I'd love to see them test every headphone)
You can use eq on whatever device you're using to make it the same as using the dsp. I have a lot more devices with 3.5 or xlr or 4mm balanced ready for listening. Just some advice
The DSP cable is for people who don't want to deal with other EQ apps, but if you really want wireless for the wired IEMs, then there's Qudelix 5k with advanced EQ settings that persists in the device with every boot up. Personally, I'm just sticking to the Zero:RED as it works fine for me even without EQ.
Got Moondrop Aria SEs, though they are now my secondary iEMs as I got Truthear Hexa's. The Aria's with spring tips are just much more comfortable for long sessions.
These more expensive iems are great and all, but I think where the chifi value really shines is on the sub 100usd, or even sub 50 usd range. I'd love if you tried some of those
I love these so much. The tuning is fantastic sure, but the punchiness of the bass is amazing. The amount is well below I usually enjoy, but the quality is so much better that it works beautifully. One of the best audio purchases I've ever made and one of the cheapest ones in years even if they're not cheap. Also the EQ values are public so you can use the analog cable with them as well. The app is still trash and an easy skip, but I expect it will be refined and on the Play Store or App Store then.
The carbon fibre looks to be what's known as Mokume style carbon. Multiple layers of unidirectional carbon strands will be laid down at different angles and then machined down to create the marble/Damascus-like effect. It's been used as an interior option on the Aston Martin Valkyrie
There are several really good choices in the price range of the Dusk currently. I have the Thieaudio Hype 4 and they give me everything I think I'll ever need in iems. That said, I would suggest you delve into the low end of Chi-fi and see how much bang for your buck you can get now. Say $50 and below. There's a ton of very good offerings in that price range. That's honestly where most non-audiophiles should be looking. Also don't just blindly find one reviewer and assume they're right. We all hear things differently and a good reviewer will mention that. Some like bass, some like high notes.
Linus. The 3.5 mm included cable is for the new audiophiles. Experienced Audiophiles have balanced cables which actually make them shine without dsp. (Depending on the dap /dac you have.
350 for something that theoretically will last 20 years or more. I love wired audio for that exact reason. No battery to wear out and suburb quality over a bluetooth one. Love my AirPods pros for convenience but Love my wired headphones.
exactly the same reason for me as well, many of my friends bought wireless equivalent versions and they lasted 3-5 years, meanwhile many of my headphones/iems are still going strong 8-10 years later.
The dusk2 was a legend. The dusk3 was extremly well received AFAIK. This started as a dusk3 improvement so i expect them to be awesome. And thr dsp cable is a bonus (as in, its made to be awesome without. Not made ro be fixed by dsp).
I'm by no means an audiophile, but I can discern differences and especially compression artifacts. Considering my main source for audio consumption (RUclips, Prime Video, Netflix, Disney+) no amount of money I would invest in speakers would make that sound better. To make matters works, as a commuter I mainly rely on downloads within the respective apps instead of wifi streaming at home, which for most services considerably worsens audio quality 😞So, I could only get enjoyable sound if I bought (which you can't in a lot of cases) bluerays of all media that interests me... Cudos to floatplane for at least entertaining a high standard of audio quality! What I mean to say, considering the amount of money one has to invest for high-quality sources of audio, the hardware itself is actually not that expensive even on the top end. Where is the AI sound "upscaling" / denoising of terrible source quality?!?
The only downside of DSP connection is that it will have noise, I don't know if it's not grounded like analog 3.5mm/2.5mm/4.4mm. Every IEM I've tried with DSP cable have that issue, I'm sticking with my analog jack thank you. Plus simple eartips rolling will fix or match to personal passive eq
let me give experience by using headphones - I'm not a audiophile just casual listener and I bought Beyerdynamic DT700, I watched too many reviews and bought this model, price was 130 EUR, in the beginning I really didn't like it, I thought I lost money, but after I listed almost 40-60 hours now I can say that this is best headphone that I have used in my life, comparing to Sony ,boss and all other Bluetooth this one is next level, the point what I'm saying is please play music for at least 40 hours and review any earphone or headphone especially if there are planner magnets, it makes big difference.
why doesn’t dan do more than just speakers. linus does the popular products, okay fine i get it, people click on videos with his face but adam’s headphone short circuits are always strange and often straight up bad. i’m sure adam knows his stuff but that definitely DOES NOT translate to his videos.
I've never found a pair of in-ears that stay comfortably put in my ears, tbh. On-ear headphones also make my ears hurt like hell. I can only really do over-ear.
Bought the CHU II and in just few months one of the earbuds broke, the customer support never answered my request for a new earbud at all. Not sure if i would trust the brand enough to buy more expensive IEMs from them.
Whoaaa never thought I'd see a Maono sponsor spot on LTT. I really like Maono and Fifine audio products, they're usually really good quality for the price point and (In my experience) punch well above their price point
I get IEMs to get something with an accurate sound profile, closest to how music sounds in a studio. Something that needs an app and presets, isn't something I'd go for.
@@donnytramp6955 preference and resonance. biology is difference and the IEMs is basically predicting what your biology is. And with a driver that is as sensitive to resonance as a planar driver, its hard to guarantee it will sound good for everyone.
@kaeroseon you right but I have the Diokos as well and they are shrill. These are unique and do require treble adjustments as the bare minimum. After that mine sound great but i must run Wavelet and other eqs no matter what. Pretty sure its the same consensus for everyone who owns them. After that fix its an amazing value. Definitely dont gift or reccomend them to non-audiophiles willing to put up with that. They are not plug and play. Id suggest the zeros for normal users. Affordable and no adjustment needed besides some personal bass tuning if its too much. Arias as well. Anything sub $100 in chi fi does carry a little disclaimer on quality control. Usually amazon is ok with returns on the US side. So yeah if you had issues with the Diokos the others i mentioned will probably be better for ya! They are iterating on them as well. So new versions of the zeros in particular are hopefully better too. But have yet to experience those ones myself.
@@kaeroseon stop talking out ur ass, the frequency response is all that matters and will sound the same to everyone without hearing damage as long as the silicone tips seal well.
I need someone in the LTT team to see this. Floatplane needs to go from a streaming service to a streaming platform packaged to creators. Look at watcher, try guys, college humor, they are having to make or buy a platform to host their own stuff. That should be what floatplane does. I feel like they already have 80% of it there. Just need to let creators use a custom url and design the pages.
I think IEMs should have cheap plastic pieces (with the same shapes as the actual IEMs) with tips that allow users to “try on” the IEMs before spending several hundred dollars on something that might be uncomfortable
In my experience, switching headphones always gives an off vibe, as we get used to the specific sound profile of what we daily drive. I do get good info fom ShortCircuit videos on headphones/earphones, but of course I'd watch other reviews before buying (which I think that's what LMG preaches!, so all good! to be clear). It's good to get a glimpse into new stuff! But I take personal reactions to sound profile with a big grain of salt. (these seem super interesting btw! I do like bass but as I get older, not at the expense of the rest.. I honestly thought these would be even more expensive!.. don't know that I'd give up the practical-ness of true wireless tho ... !)
I got the Blessing 3 instead of the Dusk. Flatter and better is more my taste. Sounds like you too Linus. be fun to see you give more a try. or Dan always need more Dan. :D
Nice to see LMG finally giving a fair shake to modern, quality IEMs and headphones, especially the good stuff coming from the ChiFi universe. It's been kinda sad to see LMG focusing on pure popularity brands 99% of the time.
I agree! I've been a self professed "audiophile" for probably 25 years now and am absolutely amazed at the "Chi-Fi" technology revolution! It seems like it's every two weeks a new innovation in either iem and/or DAC/amps is released. And I own 3 Moondrop products and I couldn't be happier!
10:35 Don't use this cable means one thing... All of the magic is in the DSP tuning, basically you can use the cable, you just have to run them through something like an AutoEQ profile in APO equalizer or something. So Moondrop made a standard chi-fi product, gave crinacle a lot of knobs. and baked the knobs settings into the DSP.
when doing iem/headphone reviews, use multiple hosts with very different tastes in music. music is subjective and so will be the taste in iem's/headphones. use 5-6 hosts each with different tastes in music like rock, metal, rap, jazz, pop, classical, folk, dance; since each will be looking for different qualities, each will have a different opinion, you then each cast a vote and be honest about who these iem's/headphones are for! this 3way you can provide an unbiased review even if sponsored without upsetting your sponsor/kit providers.
Test the Bluetooth amp BTR3k. This is mostly due to the audio dac on most phones being none existant for 60$ its decent and affordable and willl allow for deeper bass and higher highs. Trust on this. Ive used the old btr5 if works great but i cracked the display and needed a replacement Also look into the KZ earbuds if you want a cheaper experiance that wont break the bank but still operates on a mostly flat but decent frequincy band. This can obviously be tuned and sonce the dac can give the power you should have a very good experiance under 100 dollars
I highly recommend the Qudelix 5K over Fiio blurtooth dacs. It has a outstanding quality and app, with tons of settings. Much prefer it over anything Fiio, it pretty much hit the ceiling when it comes to bluetooth.
Watching this, listening on the Dusk's. Must have lucked out. I haven't gotten any significant pops or hissing with the cable as of yet, at least. I'm quite enjoying them for most functions so far.
9:37 that is unfortunately all I needed to hear. I was looking forward to these, but as someone cursed with small ear canals I don’t think it was meant to be.
@@alfarizi2179 it was a joke lol, but yeah a DSP cable completely negates the benefit of using a high quality audio player or a amp dac. Like I got a $900 flac player and there's 0 point in using that over just a standard phone because the digital 2 analog is being done in the cable and not the dedicated DAC chips in the audio player itself.
4:00 Linus with almost any sponsor: "hey I think it's working, I can hear our sponsor." Linus if it were dbrand: "hey I don't think it's working, I can hear our sponsor." admit it. it's true.
Hey! I have that exact same Maono dynamic microphone. I'd be down to try the ear buds, but I don't know that I want to spend $300 on one of those pairs.
the cheapest yet best IEM that I owned comes from Samsung included in the box when I hought Galaxy A5 (2016). I even go to Samaung store again and bought it again when the first one broke. It is equivalent to today USD 5, freakin cheap yet balance sound. Ofc, it cannot beat USD 30 headset, but it sure can beat a lot of USD 10 headset.
that's awesome if it includes the airplane adapter!!! lol Cord is only long enough to reach Linus' pocket...meaning it's too short for everyone else!!! ouch, that price >_>
We need Dan for Audio short circuits change my mind
agreed
I refuse. Change MY mind
Correction, we NEED DTT (Dan Tech Tips), not LTT.
Agreed. Dan is the best part of LTT
We need dan, to review a dan clark headphone
The audio for this video seems off. Linus's voice sounds like he is in a big empty room.
Maybe because he is in one xD
My theory is that the primary mic died and the audio was recorded by the camera's mic. Then they just boosted it in editing.
I know nothing about video nor audio, btw.
Yeah, almost sounds like they're using the camera mic. Just checked some older Short Circuit videos and the audio is a bit echo-y on all of them, but not near this level.
yep sounds bad
Ya, noticed that too. Always funny when something funny happens on an audio product review. lol :D
You should put song titles & artist names on screen as you're listening to them. Even if you can't play them, it'd be good context to know what you're using to analyse.
That’s a really good idea
That’s an amazing idea. This would really help understand the response they show.
Yeah, that's the standard for pretty much all audio reviews.
that's good idea for reference, especially when they talk element of music they hearing.
but, as crinacle said. best music to test audio equipment is music that you familiar with.
I support this
Happy to see Crin getting some more recognition. I reviewed the Dusk a while back. The general consensus in the community is that it does sound better with the DSP cable, but sadly the cable adds a lot of noise artifacts that is most noticeable when listening to spoken content, or music where there’s moments of silence. I pointed the noise issue out in my review. The headphone show initially gave it a positive first impression, but later in the full written review on their website by Listener, they also noted how the cable does introduce noise, and they show some measurements to back it up. It’s unfortunate, as otherwise this is a great IEM
The artifact noise comes from the magnetic planar, every single one I've tried no matter the price whether over the ear or in ear always has that horrible noise, some tuning and some cables enhance the noise more than usual
Not an issue with the Diokos @@mightymushroom4980
@@mightymushroom4980 it’s from the FreeDSP cable. It’s not present if you’re using it analog. As well I also hear it with other Moondrop IEMs that use that cable, as well as any other IEM when using that specific cable. It’s an artifact that even in measurements , it seems to fluctuate its volume the quieter the surrounding audio is, rather than just a typical noise floor issue that’s always there in the background. Crin is looking into it with moondrop
@@mightymushroom4980 Nope, it's introduced by the DSP cable. The cable also adds the same noise to all other brands of IEMs that it's connected too. With the analogue cables the dusk has none of this noise. Also the noise is not there If you use the same dsp settings introduced through an app without the dsp cable.
@@mightymushroom4980 nah, planar just had that higher sensitivity
source matter
Why does the mic audio seem different than older episodes? I feel like I'm hearing a lot of the room.
Yeah sounds a lotta reverb
Theres no background music.
@@Nayr_uk Yes there is
Yea, it's been an issue for a month or two maybe
Noticed that as well. A lot of reverb lately.
I'd like to see Linus check out the $20 entry level IEMs. Like the Hola, Wan'er, and Sal Notes. I think he would be blow away at how good the chi-fi entries have gotten.
I'm interested into the salnotes rn, how good it is?
the Hola is discontinued sadly
I have the Zero 2 and they are fantastic, even though I own another more expensive IEM too :D @@retrofizz727
I got the Moondrop Chu 2s recently and I freaking love them.
Yes! I have the LINSOUL 7HZ x Crinacle Zero 2, and they are mind blowing for the price.
The most criminal part of the $1,400 Walkman is that it’s only 128gigs
But don’t worry… they have a 256gig model for only $3,700
People definitely won't buy it for the internal storage. Even the cheaper walkman models or cheaper audio players in general always have a 1 or 2tb supported micro sd card slot.
And.... It isn't even the japanese model with higher power output
@@velocity790 When I found this out, I took it as Sony's passive-aggressive response to the fact that they don't give a rat's ass about NA/EU consumers when it comes to portable audio.
@@Dicloneus66 it's something to do with compliance with NA/EU hearing loss law bla bla bla.... If I have a dB for every time I hear about politics, I'll already have hearing loss.
That huge treble peak at around 16khz is actually an artifact of your (and every other) IEM measuring rig, and also, of the shape of the human ear canal. It is something that any isolating (closed-back, rubber-tip) earphone will feature. It happens because of the way in which the frequencies along that range resonate inside of the ear before reaching the eardrum in a human, or the microphone in an ear simulator. You can actually move the peak up or down the frequency range by changing the insertion depth of the IEM into the pinna (and likewise, into your ears), since depending on insertion depth, the frequencies will resonate slightly differently.
This peak has been fairly controversial, since:
1) Most people's listening at that high treble range is very subdued or straight up absent
2) Tuning human-hearing-range drivers at that frequency is extremely hard, specially trying to get rid of such a sharp and narrow peak
3) Because the IEM market has had this peak for so long, IEM users are actually used to it, and the treble sounds a bit shallow without it
4) Again, the exact frequency at which the peak happens changes with insertion depth, so tuning it out for all possible users, or even most users, is impractical
Some attempts have been made recently to tune it out, but 99% of IEMs keep it because it's not worth fighting it.
Word of advice: standarize insertion depth for your IEM measurings!
Thank you for sharing your wisdom!!
Yeah this comes up in a lot of their IEM videos. A lot of mention harsh highs or boosted treble just by looking at the graph without any acknowledgement of the pinna and the affect it can have.
Yeah all of this analysing yet its well established that we hear bass less the lower the volume however we call iems that sound good at low volumes boosted junk. Audiophiles are a joke.
So when it comes to length mode resonances in IEMs, it absolutely is an issue that can't easily be solved since depending on the air volume of the individual, the resonance will shift around a lot. It is true that you see these at various intervals in measurements as well, but the solution is not to standardize insertion depth for IEM measurements, rather it's to measure at multiple insertion depths to see how the response changes depending on air volume differences.
Additionally, these measurements were done on the B&K 5128, which uses a pinna and real ear canal - notably different from the typical canal extension tube measurements you find with GRAS 711 clones that have a small cylindrical chamber where you in theory could change the insertion depth manually. Whenever you're measuring with the pinna (even on the GRAS systems, as they should be measured), your insertion depth is standardized to where the IEM can physically fit based on the pinna itself. Or in other words, when measuring with a pinna you inherently give every IEM that achieves a seal a reference position with the tips being used. Change the tips, and you can potentially change the reference point.
With regards to the Dusk, the massive treble peak isn't just a length mode resonance issue, there's legitimately excess upper treble there, even though there can be length mode resonances higher up as well. A lot of IEMs have this, not merely because of the length mode feature (whose strongest point is often closer to 8khz), but because boosting the upper treble effectively masks the lower treble resonances that occur for individuals. It's one way manufacturers have tried to solve the problem of varying air volumes for individuals due to differing canal sizes. I'm not saying it's the right thing to do, but I can also understand why it's there.
Do you mind sharing some iem recommendations for someone who is treble sensitive?
0:03 that is the gender bent version of crinacle that u woke up to 😭
Aint no way 💀💀💀💀
💀
It's trannicle
Still would.
@@yesterdaysjam2405 down bad
I currently have the Moondrop Kato IEMs, and I am very happy with them. Moondrop does some awesome audio.
I'm a huge fan of my Katos. I'd love to try the Dusk, but the large nozzles terrify me.
Dusk's nozzle is fairly smaller than the blessing 3
I had those but the right earbud got really quiet one day and i don't know why
Alot of people will be introduced to Moondrops quality control 😂😂
Not the faceplate.. AGANE
What quality control? >D
Now i missed my Aria. LOL
@@midmidnight7968chip chip
I hate how the paint of my arias has come off. At least they still work, heard some people have had issues with the left side dying on some of their iems.
I like that not only are LTT featuring more enthusiast grade tech on this channel from time to time, but that Crinacle is big enough that his products end up everywhere.
3:20 it's sheet molded composite. It's a form of carbon fiber that isn't cured in an autoclave, but it IS infused and compressed while being cured.
You can use a simple parametric eq to fix the 3.5mm output and make it sound exactly like the usb c one. Crin posted the exact values somewhere. Too lazy to go look. Must be easy to find since I don't even own these iems and still somehow came across that.
It's like 3 or 4 bands only.
Just leaving this here to make easier, if you’re on android you can use wavelet, the profile is most likely there already, just plug the headphones in and search, very easy, very useful for headphones overall
As someone who loves eq ing to harman target its so tedious to keep switching to different profiles on different devices each time. the cable is one size fits all
@@pikkyuukyuun4741 yes. But not all devices have a usb c out. Take my desktop for example, I'd have to run some kind of a usb extender cable to be able to use the iems. For me setting up a simple eq in Equalizer APO is much simpler. Just set to the output I use most often for IEMs, and then turn it on & off depending on what I'm using. Takes 10 seconds tops.
@@8lec_R that 10seconds is enough to annoy anyone
@@pikkyuukyuun4741 bro plugging my iems in and switching outputs takes me longer lol. Not to mention hooking them on my ears. That's honestly why I don't switch IEMs more often, cuz it's a hassle.
Switching eq profiles is the least of my worries. Alt+Space>type "apo">turn off other eq profile and turn the one I want to use on with 2 clicks.
MIAD01 review when?
nah that phone is ass .. specially if u open them it a mess cheap ass battery inside of that phone and using the same dac as their dawn pro which is cs43131
yess
Really curious about that one
it ass 50$ inside a 159$ ass phone ...using cheap ass battery brand noise ass hell
@@alfarizi2179What?
if only the cable wasn't garbage, multiple people have constant popping/hissing noise with the DSP cable
the worst part about it is the microphonics, i have a minidsp with my variations and i literally cant use it unless im sitting down and not moving
Can confirm. Bought two, one for me and one for my bf but have problems with the cables from both sets. Super disappointing
@@v000000000000v I got a free DSP and it's basically unusable on sensitive IEM's, out of my 2 watch boxes of IEM's I can use it on like 2 IEM's lol
@@chrisk3127 man i wish there were other usbc -> 2 pin options for phone use
Moondrop and shit Quality Control name a better duo
3:16 Oh god, I had to check the date of the video after that line.
How come?
@@alpang6161 the attempted assassination on the former president
linus back into audiophile stuff since the (in)famous Abyss video
ngl id love to see more if y'all test all of it
haven't watched that one yet, what's the tldw
Why is it infamous?
@@Kunu_ audiophile controversy/reactions to it (abyss headphones themselves are pretty controversial apparently)
@@Asianese linus tries 5000-dollar headphones from a 20k or so rig and likes them (there were no tests done, which is fine, but I'd love to see them test every headphone)
@@mipacem huh, I don't really get that. That video is what got me into audio and watching DMS.
Whoa. Didn't expect an LTT review for the Dusk 2. They're my 2nd IEM ever, and probably my mains for the foreseeable future.
ah man, would’ve loved if this was a double review/“unboxing” and also mentioned the blessing 3
Yeah ! Covering crinacle !!!
You can use eq on whatever device you're using to make it the same as using the dsp. I have a lot more devices with 3.5 or xlr or 4mm balanced ready for listening. Just some advice
The DSP cable is for people who don't want to deal with other EQ apps, but if you really want wireless for the wired IEMs, then there's Qudelix 5k with advanced EQ settings that persists in the device with every boot up. Personally, I'm just sticking to the Zero:RED as it works fine for me even without EQ.
The depth and richness of bass are simply unique to this kind of audio equipment. Prices may be higher, but the quality leap is undeniable.
Ive had moondrop starfields for years and they are awesome
Got Moondrop Aria SEs, though they are now my secondary iEMs as I got Truthear Hexa's. The Aria's with spring tips are just much more comfortable for long sessions.
Starfields were too sibilant for me
Crinacle My Favourite Measurbator 🤤
These headphones are literally, the only semi-practical use case for that walkman.
These more expensive iems are great and all, but I think where the chifi value really shines is on the sub 100usd, or even sub 50 usd range. I'd love if you tried some of those
wheres dankpods when you need him
Love the audiophile content!
1 second out of the foam and we get reminded about Linus Drop Tips. Literally.
I love these so much. The tuning is fantastic sure, but the punchiness of the bass is amazing. The amount is well below I usually enjoy, but the quality is so much better that it works beautifully. One of the best audio purchases I've ever made and one of the cheapest ones in years even if they're not cheap.
Also the EQ values are public so you can use the analog cable with them as well. The app is still trash and an easy skip, but I expect it will be refined and on the Play Store or App Store then.
Hope you guys review Moondrops phone they released and also tbe fiio m23.
The carbon fibre looks to be what's known as Mokume style carbon. Multiple layers of unidirectional carbon strands will be laid down at different angles and then machined down to create the marble/Damascus-like effect. It's been used as an interior option on the Aston Martin Valkyrie
This was actually better than a lot of audiophile reviews - some of them have been getting pretentious, unclear or downright misleading.
There are several really good choices in the price range of the Dusk currently. I have the Thieaudio Hype 4 and they give me everything I think I'll ever need in iems. That said, I would suggest you delve into the low end of Chi-fi and see how much bang for your buck you can get now. Say $50 and below. There's a ton of very good offerings in that price range. That's honestly where most non-audiophiles should be looking. Also don't just blindly find one reviewer and assume they're right. We all hear things differently and a good reviewer will mention that. Some like bass, some like high notes.
Maono making enough bux to land on Short circuit! ayee!!
their mics were the first ones i got 5-6 yrs ago
Tfw when you're listening to this on your dusks
You should try the Mangird Xenns Top, seems like they have an excellent bass quality and are considerably better than the dusk
Oh man this video dropped when I was curious about moondrop, was worried about their quality control
Linus. The 3.5 mm included cable is for the new audiophiles. Experienced Audiophiles have balanced cables which actually make them shine without dsp. (Depending on the dap /dac you have.
The audio in this video feels like it has way too much lows... or maybe I'm just used to how Linus sounds in other videos 🤷♂
IEMs!
350 for something that theoretically will last 20 years or more. I love wired audio for that exact reason. No battery to wear out and suburb quality over a bluetooth one. Love my AirPods pros for convenience but Love my wired headphones.
exactly the same reason for me as well, many of my friends bought wireless equivalent versions and they lasted 3-5 years, meanwhile many of my headphones/iems are still going strong 8-10 years later.
The dusk2 was a legend. The dusk3 was extremly well received AFAIK. This started as a dusk3 improvement so i expect them to be awesome. And thr dsp cable is a bonus (as in, its made to be awesome without. Not made ro be fixed by dsp).
I'm by no means an audiophile, but I can discern differences and especially compression artifacts. Considering my main source for audio consumption (RUclips, Prime Video, Netflix, Disney+) no amount of money I would invest in speakers would make that sound better. To make matters works, as a commuter I mainly rely on downloads within the respective apps instead of wifi streaming at home, which for most services considerably worsens audio quality 😞So, I could only get enjoyable sound if I bought (which you can't in a lot of cases) bluerays of all media that interests me... Cudos to floatplane for at least entertaining a high standard of audio quality!
What I mean to say, considering the amount of money one has to invest for high-quality sources of audio, the hardware itself is actually not that expensive even on the top end. Where is the AI sound "upscaling" / denoising of terrible source quality?!?
The only downside of DSP connection is that it will have noise, I don't know if it's not grounded like analog 3.5mm/2.5mm/4.4mm. Every IEM I've tried with DSP cable have that issue, I'm sticking with my analog jack thank you. Plus simple eartips rolling will fix or match to personal passive eq
let me give experience by using headphones - I'm not a audiophile just casual listener and I bought Beyerdynamic DT700, I watched too many reviews and bought this model, price was 130 EUR, in the beginning I really didn't like it, I thought I lost money, but after I listed almost 40-60 hours now I can say that this is best headphone that I have used in my life, comparing to Sony ,boss and all other Bluetooth this one is next level, the point what I'm saying is please play music for at least 40 hours and review any earphone or headphone especially if there are planner magnets, it makes big difference.
This ain’t Linus tech tips this is Linus touch tips
The crossover, I didn't know I needed
Never clicked on a Shortcircuit video so fast
why doesn’t dan do more than just speakers. linus does the popular products, okay fine i get it, people click on videos with his face but adam’s headphone short circuits are always strange and often straight up bad. i’m sure adam knows his stuff but that definitely DOES NOT translate to his videos.
Dan Dan Dan Dan Dan Dan!
for budget iem, truthear zero red is a great option. Neutral with a bit of bass boost. And the truthear Hexa is also a good neutral iem
DSP is for Digital Signal Processor , its also used for photography
let's get some de-reverb in post guys
Imagine watching a review on dusk while using dusk, couldn't be me lol
YESSSS, I see the stubble coming in. Beard Days here we come
Please do a full DSP video! I would be really interested in how to tune any random junk speakers into something usable.
I've never found a pair of in-ears that stay comfortably put in my ears, tbh. On-ear headphones also make my ears hurt like hell. I can only really do over-ear.
How about a Moondrop Dawn Pro with a Truthear Crinicle Hexa? Best cheap combo?
Bought the CHU II and in just few months one of the earbuds broke, the customer support never answered my request for a new earbud at all.
Not sure if i would trust the brand enough to buy more expensive IEMs from them.
Whoaaa never thought I'd see a Maono sponsor spot on LTT. I really like Maono and Fifine audio products, they're usually really good quality for the price point and (In my experience) punch well above their price point
I get IEMs to get something with an accurate sound profile, closest to how music sounds in a studio. Something that needs an app and presets, isn't something I'd go for.
Crinacle's stuff is really good imo
except 7hz dioko, that thing almost killed my ears sonically
@@donnytramp6955 preference and resonance. biology is difference and the IEMs is basically predicting what your biology is. And with a driver that is as sensitive to resonance as a planar driver, its hard to guarantee it will sound good for everyone.
@kaeroseon you right but I have the Diokos as well and they are shrill. These are unique and do require treble adjustments as the bare minimum. After that mine sound great but i must run Wavelet and other eqs no matter what. Pretty sure its the same consensus for everyone who owns them. After that fix its an amazing value. Definitely dont gift or reccomend them to non-audiophiles willing to put up with that. They are not plug and play. Id suggest the zeros for normal users. Affordable and no adjustment needed besides some personal bass tuning if its too much. Arias as well. Anything sub $100 in chi fi does carry a little disclaimer on quality control. Usually amazon is ok with returns on the US side.
So yeah if you had issues with the Diokos the others i mentioned will probably be better for ya! They are iterating on them as well. So new versions of the zeros in particular are hopefully better too. But have yet to experience those ones myself.
@@kaeroseon stop talking out ur ass, the frequency response is all that matters and will sound the same to everyone without hearing damage as long as the silicone tips seal well.
And except Kiwi Singolo
I need someone in the LTT team to see this.
Floatplane needs to go from a streaming service to a streaming platform packaged to creators.
Look at watcher, try guys, college humor, they are having to make or buy a platform to host their own stuff. That should be what floatplane does. I feel like they already have 80% of it there. Just need to let creators use a custom url and design the pages.
That was the best sponsor segue he's done in a long time
I think IEMs should have cheap plastic pieces (with the same shapes as the actual IEMs) with tips that allow users to “try on” the IEMs before spending several hundred dollars on something that might be uncomfortable
Watching this video with my “just Dusk” right now in shock thinking there’s no way ltt would do a video on this.
Didn’t expect an LTT video about these
Whenever he says DSP I can only see Darkside Phil memes in my head.
In my experience, switching headphones always gives an off vibe, as we get used to the specific sound profile of what we daily drive. I do get good info fom ShortCircuit videos on headphones/earphones, but of course I'd watch other reviews before buying (which I think that's what LMG preaches!, so all good! to be clear). It's good to get a glimpse into new stuff! But I take personal reactions to sound profile with a big grain of salt.
(these seem super interesting btw! I do like bass but as I get older, not at the expense of the rest.. I honestly thought these would be even more expensive!.. don't know that I'd give up the practical-ness of true wireless tho ... !)
I got the Blessing 3 instead of the Dusk.
Flatter and better is more my taste.
Sounds like you too Linus.
be fun to see you give more a try.
or Dan
always need more Dan. :D
Nice to see LMG finally giving a fair shake to modern, quality IEMs and headphones, especially the good stuff coming from the ChiFi universe. It's been kinda sad to see LMG focusing on pure popularity brands 99% of the time.
I agree! I've been a self professed "audiophile" for probably 25 years now and am absolutely amazed at the "Chi-Fi" technology revolution! It seems like it's every two weeks a new innovation in either iem and/or DAC/amps is released. And I own 3 Moondrop products and I couldn't be happier!
$360 isnt a lot of money for audiophiles. There's IEMs costing well into the thousands of dollars lol. So this is pretty much a steal.
Fix your audio, guys. There's too much room reverb. Good review, though.
10:35 Don't use this cable means one thing...
All of the magic is in the DSP tuning, basically you can use the cable, you just have to run them through something like an AutoEQ profile in APO equalizer or something.
So Moondrop made a standard chi-fi product, gave crinacle a lot of knobs.
and baked the knobs settings into the DSP.
when doing iem/headphone reviews, use multiple hosts with very different tastes in music. music is subjective and so will be the taste in iem's/headphones. use 5-6 hosts each with different tastes in music like rock, metal, rap, jazz, pop, classical, folk, dance; since each will be looking for different qualities, each will have a different opinion, you then each cast a vote and be honest about who these iem's/headphones are for! this 3way you can provide an unbiased review even if sponsored without upsetting your sponsor/kit providers.
Portable dac is my life now. Cable for the win. Take that, apple!
Rinko paired with moondrop little white for near perfect daily use.
Test the Bluetooth amp BTR3k. This is mostly due to the audio dac on most phones being none existant for 60$ its decent and affordable and willl allow for deeper bass and higher highs. Trust on this. Ive used the old btr5 if works great but i cracked the display and needed a replacement
Also look into the KZ earbuds if you want a cheaper experiance that wont break the bank but still operates on a mostly flat but decent frequincy band. This can obviously be tuned and sonce the dac can give the power you should have a very good experiance under 100 dollars
I highly recommend the Qudelix 5K over Fiio blurtooth dacs. It has a outstanding quality and app, with tons of settings. Much prefer it over anything Fiio, it pretty much hit the ceiling when it comes to bluetooth.
Watching this, listening on the Dusk's. Must have lucked out. I haven't gotten any significant pops or hissing with the cable as of yet, at least. I'm quite enjoying them for most functions so far.
9:37 that is unfortunately all I needed to hear. I was looking forward to these, but as someone cursed with small ear canals I don’t think it was meant to be.
These sponsor segues deserve an emmy award.
Alternatively use Wavelet and enjoy AutoEQ with 3.5mm cable or use it with a TWS earbud adapter😉
Guys, the audio is off because you're not using Moondrops DSP cable.
nah dsp is ass ...its just dac and some shit configuration...just use regular cable to my shanling m5u its perfect
@@alfarizi2179 it was a joke lol, but yeah a DSP cable completely negates the benefit of using a high quality audio player or a amp dac. Like I got a $900 flac player and there's 0 point in using that over just a standard phone because the digital 2 analog is being done in the cable and not the dedicated DAC chips in the audio player itself.
4:00
Linus with almost any sponsor: "hey I think it's working, I can hear our sponsor."
Linus if it were dbrand: "hey I don't think it's working, I can hear our sponsor."
admit it. it's true.
Hey! I have that exact same Maono dynamic microphone.
I'd be down to try the ear buds, but I don't know that I want to spend $300 on one of those pairs.
I'm guessing the audio didn't record on normal setup. What we're hearing is secondary audio from camera or other
the cheapest yet best IEM that I owned comes from Samsung included in the box when I hought Galaxy A5 (2016).
I even go to Samaung store again and bought it again when the first one broke. It is equivalent to today USD 5, freakin cheap yet balance sound.
Ofc, it cannot beat USD 30 headset, but it sure can beat a lot of USD 10 headset.
I have a pair of Dunu sns tips on these and seriously recommend it. Still a very thick nozzle if you are not used to it.
Also equalizerAPO ftw.
Man the audio is a little off recently. Ironic given the theme today haha
Since you are reciewing a product by moondrop anyway, why not review their phone, the Moondrop Miad 01.
out of curiosity have you ever tested sony's WI-1000X/M2 . where do they rank?
Me sees new IEMs opens videos…sees prices closes video
that's awesome if it includes the airplane adapter!!! lol
Cord is only long enough to reach Linus' pocket...meaning it's too short for everyone else!!!
ouch, that price >_>
finally a sponsor i've already been influenced by
this video gonna put the spotlight on IEM for a lot of people ! thx linus ;)
Wait theres actually stuff in the box? I thought it was just an extra thiccc anime painting
A comparison to some common headphones would be useful I think.
The one LTT video I can't use as an audio benchmark