Sorry for the late upload, had some technical difficulties making this one. Still wanted to make sure I posted it today to keep the upload streak alive.
@@minimanj9172 Another outstanding pick by Boston…no, seriously how do you pick three straight times in RD-1 and miss twice while DeBrusk has been solid but no Barzal, Kyle Connor, Chabot, Erikkson Ek etc. who went immediately Senyshen.
Just a quick idea for new videos, instead of redraft, it might be interesting to compare old draft list by various sources to see which ones are the closest to your updated lists in order to see who is the most accurate source. It sounds right up your alley
I can't believe people after 1 year thought Slafkovsky was a bust...1 year...He's got too many tools to be possible ! We have a beast in development and sky is the limit, no other number 1 pick are an archetype to compare to him...6'3 and 235 is rare !
for a second i thought you didnt put pat kane on it and i was like are you kidding! but then i realized hes not from 2006 hes from 2007 glad you put him here 🙂
I was looking back at the 2018 draft since I forgot who was there and there are a lot of good dmen (especially early in the draft) look at the names (only dmen). 1.) Dahlin (star) 7.) Hughes (star) 8.) Boqvist (good 2nd-3rd pair dman) 10.) Bouchard (star) 12.) Dobson (underrated star) 22.) K. Miller (very good 2nd pair to maybe 1st pair dman) 23.) N. Lundkvist (Depth dman) 24.) Sandin (depth dman with pp potential) 52.) Durzi (2nd-1st pair dman with potential) 164.) Kesselring (serviceable 3rd pair guy)
2010 Mark Stone let’s be real hall and Seguin are a level under him he has a insane 2 way game won a cup and is all star distributor I think he deserves it. Also I think 2006 there is a great argument for Marchand him and Toews skill wise in their prime seem about the same and one still is playing and is still a corner stone piece and a captain and the other isn’t anymore. At
@@OhNyquistthanks. Also great work on the videos u been going crazy man and I think everyone really appreciates it and the amount of feedback content is awesome and something nobody else really does in the RUclips hockey world from what I know. You and THG are the goats. I also really liked the Johnston pick for 2021 going into it I thought it was a lock for Berniers and I didn’t even think of Johnston.
If you ever plan on revisting this video topic in the future, I would say in any year where it's not a certain lock you should have a couple of honorable mentions.
Ovi is up there, maybe #2, but as someone who was born in 1980, Super Mario was a better pure goal scorer. There was no shot he couldn't make. No disrespect to Ovi, but a lot of his goals came from one-timers from the point.
How close was Fleury to Bergeron in 2003? 3 cup wins, 5 total finals, vezina, 2nd most goalie wins of all time. I think its really close, but I do agree all those selke's and his career was amazing.
Not close at all tbh. I would even have Corey Perry as the second best player from that draft. Fleury is way overrated due to the fact he played for an all-star Penguins team. He's not even a top 3 goalie from the 2010's!! Vasilevskiy, Bobrovsky and Lundqvist definitely before him. Actually even Price! Lol
@@tomblade Thanks for the reply bro. -- and its an interesting reply because its crazy how much I disagree with you. I don't think he's overrated I actually think hes underrated. The 2008 & 2009 cup runs he was an utter stud. In 2016 & 2017, at different times in the regular season and playoffs he carried the team. I forget, might have been 2017 for the Penguins but he was the MVP during the regular season for the team. 5 finals, 3 cups. Getting the Vezina and to the finals with Vegas as their star player in the first season was bigger than anything Perry accomplished. I will say, Perry getting that MVP helps his case, but it was nothing but a best stats that year MVP. I'm a big Ducks fan as well, but Perry was a trashcan his last couple years with Anaheim then has transitioned nicely to a bottom 6/role player in the last 5 years here with other teams. I will support your claim there that he has had insane longevity of helping teams win in the playoffs. I think the real answer between us is probably team need. M.A.F. did more for the Penguins with the number 1 pick since they had no goalie, than Perry would have done for the Penguins and vise-versa since Anaheim had Giguere. Fleury did have some stinker years in the playoffs. It was after his father passed away one year, then another year his first born child at a bad time. I'll leave you with this, 2nd most wins all time in the history of the game. Brodeur career .913, Roy career .912, Fleury career .912, he's right there as a top 5-10 range goalie of all time depending on what goalie metrics you look at. I don't even know if I would take Eric Staal over MAF either, I think Bergeron is the only one close. His 2-way game (obviously) has been so strong its hard to pass him up, every year Boston was a contender/had a solid team with him as the 1C.
For 2003 i gotta go joe pavelskie just cause he went for 7th round pick to star player pretty fast. plus point wise he has the most out of the entire draft class
I think you forgot mark stone in 2010 Because I think his career better than taylor halls or tyler sequins he's always been great 2 way and before he broke out as ppg player as well he still pretty consistently 50+points in ottawa
Duncan Keith was too small to play defense, so second round, all Paul Coffey had was skating and a hard shot (too small), Joe Sakic too small, could not handle the rough stuff, and Mike Bossy? All he did was score but was not tough enough. I remember these drafts
Someone please explain why Henrik Lundquist is considered a better goalie than Pekka Rinne, other the obvious reason that he was anointed for playing in New York. Requirement: Look at their statistics side by side.
@@doaftheloaf you picked the one stat that if they switched teams would be reversed based on team style of play. The point is, they are virtually the exact same goalie. You've just been fed a myth because, well, New York media.
When I saw Mitch Marner show up for 2015, it was a huge wtf moment. I'm think why would anyone with a sane mind ever vote him over McJesus. McDavid could be just the 2nd ever player to reach 2000+ points by retirement. In terms of 100+ point seasons, there is a possibility of him being 2nd to only Gretzky in total 100+ seasons. It would not be outside the realm of possibility to get 4-5 more 100 pointers for him. Ridiculous.
Malkin has always been so slept on his entire career, definitely a more rounded player than Ovi and has also won everything there is to win. Suprised people won't even entertain the idea that he's as good as Ovi
malkin > ovi. People buy into the crosby vs ovi rivalry when it should have always been malkin vs ovi with crosby as the clear best player in the league. Ovi has the legacy of being one of if not the best goal scorer of all time, but malkin does more things better than ovi. Ill die on this hill when i say malkin would be considered the clear second best player behind crosby had he been the top center on another team
I know some people might call this take sacrilegious, but I never considered Ovechkin the definitive best pick from the 2004 Draft class, when you had a guy named Evgeni Malkin drafted right behind him. Absolutely no disrespect to Ovechkin as of course he could easily be debated as the best goal scorer of all time. I think Malkin was simply the better overall player, ether way even if you find my take absurd both of them are sure fire hall of famers. But I believe you can have a debate over who the best player was from that draft class.
@@OhNyquist Like you mentioned in the video, the only thing that’ll always hurt Kovalchuk is leaving for the KHL. With that being said, from 2003-2013, Kovalchuk was the far superior player imo. But obviously that’s not how things work as Spezza continued being a fantastic player as Kovalchuk went overseas. I see your point 100%, but I’d go Kovalchuk just off of peak and talent alone. The man suffered from being on a shit team for so long, who coulda imagined Kovalchuk on a healthy and thriving roster in the 2000s.
Jason spezza over Kovy is a freaking joke. Not nearly on the same level. Don’t get me wrong, he’s a great player, but 4 30- goal seasons over 9 30+ seasons, including 5 40+ seasons and a Richard? Ilya also did it on an atrocious Thrashers team during the dead puck era. During Kovalchuk time, only Ovechkin scored more goals. I’m smelling some bias here…
6:05 tbh MY best American born player isnt Kane or Modano (warning HUGE bias coming) ITS THE MAN FROM SWISS AND THE ARIZONA DESERT AUSTON MATTHEWS. I know u all laugh because he's a leaf but if Auston were to ever leave the Leafs (please Arceus no) I do think he would become a multi cup player. If he decides to stay with the Leafs for his career hes going to be the best NHLer to never win a cup (yes Im at the point where I honestly dont think the Leafs will ever win a cup.)
Yeah I can understand not jumping to that less than half way through his career (barring a tragedy), but he should be the undisputed best American player in history by the end of his career at the very least.
Some OUTRAGEOUS statements made in this video. No, Bergeron is NOT the "best two way forward of all time." Likewise, Austin Mathews, for all his greatness, will NOT "go down in history as best Maple Leaf ever".
No kidding, overrated is the exact word I was going to use. He has 1 Norris so far, just one. Orr had like 6 by his age. I only use Orr because that's what people like to compare him to.
calling makar generational when he's hard carried by mac and rantenan is laughable. quit meat riding, makar is fantastic but put hughes, fox, and dahlin are far better both ways.
Im a Wings fan so I should hate Colorado, but Makar is by far the best defenseman in the league right now and its not particularly close. Hughes and Dahlin have potential to get there, but Makar is king currently and absolutely generational.
Sorry for the late upload, had some technical difficulties making this one. Still wanted to make sure I posted it today to keep the upload streak alive.
WWW! KEEP THE STREAK GOING!
Appreciate the hard work man
The Marner pick had me double checking what year Mcdavid got drafted in 🤣
same here, I was thinking i was getting confused on the year McD was drafted.
same haha
2015 noah juulsen obviously
I missed that one
2015 Jake sensyhen
Goat I'm afraid
@@minimanj9172
Another outstanding pick by Boston…no, seriously how do you pick three straight times in RD-1 and miss twice while DeBrusk has been solid but no Barzal, Kyle Connor, Chabot, Erikkson Ek etc. who went immediately Senyshen.
The Juul
Man the lightning cleaned up from 2008 to 2012. Getting the best player in the draft 4/5 years certainly helps the team long term.
Got me with Marner 😂 I was like "wait what?"
If you could translate my mental reaction to the Marner part it would be, “Oh. Really? Wait a minute… wtf? WTF?!?”.
10:05 Dude went all in by even doing the stats graphics.
2:38 Barkov only needs 5 more selkes in a row and he’ll be 29 heading into next season
one team being on this list 4 times in a 24 year span is pretty nuts
24….. Tampa was on it 4 times in 5 year span.
Just a quick idea for new videos, instead of redraft, it might be interesting to compare old draft list by various sources to see which ones are the closest to your updated lists in order to see who is the most accurate source. It sounds right up your alley
Good idea
Keith was so fun to watch in his time with the hawks
missed opportunity to put Kaprizov for 2015 like you did with the jersey numbers video haha
Completely agree with your 2003 pick (Bergeron)!
It was definitely not Fleury as first overall. No honorable mention needed ;)
Two Nova Scotians in this video 🔥
Atlantic Canada Represented
Not gonna lie I seen the Marner bait from a mile away, cuz Drai had me thinking of McDavid. Love the content buddy keep pumping out content
what are your thoughts on capfriendly being bought by the capitals?
Depressed
CapsUnfriendly*
I was wondering for a few seconds of McDavid was actually in the 2016 draft lol. Good one
Erm i think for 2017 is the Dallas stars defenseman i forget the name lol
But cale makar is good too😊
Miro Heiskanen?
At 6:25 he’s on the press now 😂
Given the choice between a prime Malkin and a prime Ovechkin - I would take Malkin.
Bad joke
I can't believe people after 1 year thought Slafkovsky was a bust...1 year...He's got too many tools to be possible ! We have a beast in development and sky is the limit, no other number 1 pick are an archetype to compare to him...6'3 and 235 is rare !
Erik Johnson lol
The man is on the grind
Rinne should be on this list he was one of the craziest draft steals in history, single handidly brought Nashville into relevance
I knew that you were joking at 2015 part😂😂
Love your vids from Finland
Karlsson not getting mentioned is a crime
Lightning nailed those mid video drafts😳
Ovechkin has won 3 Hart Trophies, not 2
yeah, we don't care about that warmongering POS. he should go back home to serve his president at the front.
Holy crap you got me with Marner over McDavid 😂 I was like, “hang on a sec, what did he saaaaayyy?”
Bro had me thinking mcdavid was picked in the 2016 draft💀
Amazing how many low picks turned out to be the best players of the draft! Nice video!
for a second i thought you didnt put pat kane on it and i was like are you kidding! but then i realized hes not from 2006 hes from 2007 glad you put him here 🙂
Loved the video, but would have liked an honourable mention each year. Maybe even a mention of the biggest busy
I was looking back at the 2018 draft since I forgot who was there and there are a lot of good dmen (especially early in the draft) look at the names (only dmen).
1.) Dahlin (star)
7.) Hughes (star)
8.) Boqvist (good 2nd-3rd pair dman)
10.) Bouchard (star)
12.) Dobson (underrated star)
22.) K. Miller (very good 2nd pair to maybe 1st pair dman)
23.) N. Lundkvist (Depth dman)
24.) Sandin (depth dman with pp potential)
52.) Durzi (2nd-1st pair dman with potential)
164.) Kesselring (serviceable 3rd pair guy)
I don't know man...Ovechkin over Malkin???? That's a tough call.
Lmfaooo I had a weird feeling he was gonna make a joke about marner being #1 and he did it 😂😂😂
my reaction to hearing Jack Hughes was 24🫠
he just turned 23 last month
Kavalchuk was better than Spezza.
Yes
2010 Mark Stone let’s be real hall and Seguin are a level under him he has a insane 2 way game won a cup and is all star distributor I think he deserves it.
Also I think 2006 there is a great argument for Marchand him and Toews skill wise in their prime seem about the same and one still is playing and is still a corner stone piece and a captain and the other isn’t anymore. At
Some very valid points! I definitely considered Stone.
@@OhNyquistthanks. Also great work on the videos u been going crazy man and I think everyone really appreciates it and the amount of feedback content is awesome and something nobody else really does in the RUclips hockey world from what I know. You and THG are the goats. I also really liked the Johnston pick for 2021 going into it I thought it was a lock for Berniers and I didn’t even think of Johnston.
Nicklas Backstrom and Giroux for 2006 too. Solid draft class
Mcdavid's numbers are insane, already close to 1000 points and his prime is only just starting
In 2014 Crosby was already shot to pieces
Definitely WONT argue Hedman over JT.
Great content, keep up the good work!
If you ever plan on revisting this video topic in the future, I would say in any year where it's not a certain lock you should have a couple of honorable mentions.
I think 2nd best player in every draft is more compelling of a list than Best player, which is usually a rather undisputed choice.
Great video
I must admit. I can’t choose Between Bergeron and Fleury…
Man I love them both
You should do best goalies drafted each year
I think Wings and Sens fans arguing about if Raymond or Stutzle is better would just fuel the rivalry even more
At 10:10 in the 2015 how is it not mcdavid😮
Ovi is up there, maybe #2, but as someone who was born in 1980, Super Mario was a better pure goal scorer. There was no shot he couldn't make. No disrespect to Ovi, but a lot of his goals came from one-timers from the point.
How close was Fleury to Bergeron in 2003? 3 cup wins, 5 total finals, vezina, 2nd most goalie wins of all time. I think its really close, but I do agree all those selke's and his career was amazing.
Not close at all tbh. I would even have Corey Perry as the second best player from that draft. Fleury is way overrated due to the fact he played for an all-star Penguins team. He's not even a top 3 goalie from the 2010's!! Vasilevskiy, Bobrovsky and Lundqvist definitely before him. Actually even Price! Lol
@@tomblade Thanks for the reply bro. -- and its an interesting reply because its crazy how much I disagree with you. I don't think he's overrated I actually think hes underrated. The 2008 & 2009 cup runs he was an utter stud. In 2016 & 2017, at different times in the regular season and playoffs he carried the team. I forget, might have been 2017 for the Penguins but he was the MVP during the regular season for the team. 5 finals, 3 cups. Getting the Vezina and to the finals with Vegas as their star player in the first season was bigger than anything Perry accomplished. I will say, Perry getting that MVP helps his case, but it was nothing but a best stats that year MVP. I'm a big Ducks fan as well, but Perry was a trashcan his last couple years with Anaheim then has transitioned nicely to a bottom 6/role player in the last 5 years here with other teams. I will support your claim there that he has had insane longevity of helping teams win in the playoffs. I think the real answer between us is probably team need. M.A.F. did more for the Penguins with the number 1 pick since they had no goalie, than Perry would have done for the Penguins and vise-versa since Anaheim had Giguere. Fleury did have some stinker years in the playoffs. It was after his father passed away one year, then another year his first born child at a bad time. I'll leave you with this, 2nd most wins all time in the history of the game. Brodeur career .913, Roy career .912, Fleury career .912, he's right there as a top 5-10 range goalie of all time depending on what goalie metrics you look at. I don't even know if I would take Eric Staal over MAF either, I think Bergeron is the only one close. His 2-way game (obviously) has been so strong its hard to pass him up, every year Boston was a contender/had a solid team with him as the 1C.
Ohhh, you got me 😅
2003 I would have picked the flower
I could argue that Barkov is also a solid pick for 2013.
I just said “bruh” when i heard marner for 2015😂
Marc-andre Fleury
For 2003 i gotta go joe pavelskie just cause he went for 7th round pick to star player pretty fast. plus point wise he has the most out of the entire draft class
No nail yakupov is disrespectful 😂😂😂
Barkov is coming for Bergerons spot 🤫
2020 Alexis Lafreniere
I think you forgot mark stone in 2010
Because I think his career better than taylor halls or tyler sequins he's always been great 2 way and before he broke out as ppg player as well he still pretty consistently 50+points in ottawa
ya got me with 2015
2010 vlad tarasenko
Makar isn’t the franchise leader in points or am I going crazy
*points by d man
Duncan Keith was too small to play defense, so second round, all Paul Coffey had was skating and a hard shot (too small), Joe Sakic too small, could not handle the rough stuff, and Mike Bossy? All he did was score but was not tough enough. I remember these drafts
Bro where is Yakupov on this list??!?
Someone please explain why Henrik Lundquist is considered a better goalie than Pekka Rinne, other the obvious reason that he was anointed for playing in New York.
Requirement: Look at their statistics side by side.
which statistics? hank was the best goalie of the 2010s. i'm wondering what stats you're cherry-picking to make the case that rinne is better.
@@doaftheloaf fugured you'd be too afraid to look
@@lougiacobbi725 hank’s goals saved above expected is much higher.
@@doaftheloaf you picked the one stat that if they switched teams would be reversed based on team style of play. The point is, they are virtually the exact same goalie. You've just been fed a myth because, well, New York media.
2000 should be Rick Dipetero
Hedman is better than Tavares because he played in better team? Not sure if I could agree on that idea
When I saw Mitch Marner show up for 2015, it was a huge wtf moment. I'm think why would anyone with a sane mind ever vote him over McJesus. McDavid could be just the 2nd ever player to reach 2000+ points by retirement. In terms of 100+ point seasons, there is a possibility of him being 2nd to only Gretzky in total 100+ seasons. It would not be outside the realm of possibility to get 4-5 more 100 pointers for him. Ridiculous.
Rick Nash in terms of pure talent was better than Keith. Would have had a hall of fame career if he played for a good team
Malkin has always been so slept on his entire career, definitely a more rounded player than Ovi and has also won everything there is to win. Suprised people won't even entertain the idea that he's as good as Ovi
malkin > ovi. People buy into the crosby vs ovi rivalry when it should have always been malkin vs ovi with crosby as the clear best player in the league. Ovi has the legacy of being one of if not the best goal scorer of all time, but malkin does more things better than ovi. Ill die on this hill when i say malkin would be considered the clear second best player behind crosby had he been the top center on another team
2003 I think is fleury
Idk McDavid doesn't have a cup and Eichel does
I know some people might call this take sacrilegious, but I never considered Ovechkin the definitive best pick from the 2004 Draft class, when you had a guy named Evgeni Malkin drafted right behind him. Absolutely no disrespect to Ovechkin as of course he could easily be debated as the best goal scorer of all time. I think Malkin was simply the better overall player, ether way even if you find my take absurd both of them are sure fire hall of famers. But I believe you can have a debate over who the best player was from that draft class.
Kovy >> Spezza anyday
At his peak yea, but I think Spezza had a better NHL career.
@@OhNyquist Like you mentioned in the video, the only thing that’ll always hurt Kovalchuk is leaving for the KHL. With that being said, from 2003-2013, Kovalchuk was the far superior player imo. But obviously that’s not how things work as Spezza continued being a fantastic player as Kovalchuk went overseas. I see your point 100%, but I’d go Kovalchuk just off of peak and talent alone. The man suffered from being on a shit team for so long, who coulda imagined Kovalchuk on a healthy and thriving roster in the 2000s.
Video idea similar to this but opposite. Biggest let down of a player taken in the top ten of the draft.....cough Zadina cough cough.
Doing the biggest steal from every draft tomorrow, then the biggest bust the following day. Zadina may make an appearance in that one lol.
@@OhNyquist lol, I have no original thoughts.
@@OhNyquistPut Mcdavid for 2015 in busts
nail yakupov has entered the chat. and griffin reinhart. and nikita filatov. and jesse puljujarvi.
Jason spezza over Kovy is a freaking joke. Not nearly on the same level. Don’t get me wrong, he’s a great player, but 4 30- goal seasons over 9 30+ seasons, including 5 40+ seasons and a Richard? Ilya also did it on an atrocious Thrashers team during the dead puck era. During Kovalchuk time, only Ovechkin scored more goals. I’m smelling some bias here…
21 minutes ago is crazy
I'd take Tkachuk over Matthews any day of the week
Sydney Crosby is your GOAT? 😂
6:05 tbh MY best American born player isnt Kane or Modano (warning HUGE bias coming) ITS THE MAN FROM SWISS AND THE ARIZONA DESERT AUSTON MATTHEWS. I know u all laugh because he's a leaf but if Auston were to ever leave the Leafs (please Arceus no) I do think he would become a multi cup player. If he decides to stay with the Leafs for his career hes going to be the best NHLer to never win a cup (yes Im at the point where I honestly dont think the Leafs will ever win a cup.)
Yeah I can understand not jumping to that less than half way through his career (barring a tragedy), but he should be the undisputed best American player in history by the end of his career at the very least.
Correction: Matthews is from just outside of San Jose.
@@jonmendelson1104 um no he's not he was raised in Arizona/Switzerland (Apparently his dad was Swiss or something like that)
@@davidfitzpatrick6535 But he was born in San Ramon, about 40 miles outside of San Jose.
@@jonmendelson1104 Fe So i guess its born in SJ raised in Arizona/Switzerland
Some OUTRAGEOUS statements made in this video.
No, Bergeron is NOT the "best two way forward of all time."
Likewise, Austin Mathews, for all his greatness, will NOT "go down in history as best Maple Leaf ever".
Nail yakupov is the goat obvs
87 💌
I'm not mad that you picked Toews and I'm not hating on Toews but as a biased hurricanes fan I have to give it to CAM WARD
Logan Cooley is better than slacofsky
Malkin > Ovi and ill happily debate anyone
02 is Datsyuk all day
He was drafted in ‘98
@@OhNyquist my bad you're right. That was his rookie year.
@@OhNyquist keep up the good work on the vids. Love the content.
Bro fell off no views in 45 seconds
hockey isnt that big
@@StuckInSyrupno he’s using an overused comment for likes. Just report people who leave that comment. It’s just spam or a re re mentally ill kid
Makar is the most overrated defenseman. He's probably the third best at most.
No kidding, overrated is the exact word I was going to use. He has 1 Norris so far, just one. Orr had like 6 by his age. I only use Orr because that's what people like to compare him to.
%100 Erik Karlsson in 2008
over stamkos? no way.
calling makar generational when he's hard carried by mac and rantenan is laughable. quit meat riding, makar is fantastic but put hughes, fox, and dahlin are far better both ways.
Worst take I have seen in a long time
@@OhNyquist I thought the exact same listening to you overrate mickey mouse makar lol
@@odeszaa you aren’t the sharpest tool in the shed
Im a Wings fan so I should hate Colorado, but Makar is by far the best defenseman in the league right now and its not particularly close. Hughes and Dahlin have potential to get there, but Makar is king currently and absolutely generational.
@@odeszaaSo do you watch Avs games or just eat crayons?
hahaha mcdavid bait