I am a Traditional Catholic at heart, but there isn’t one near me. My NO parish is literally right next door. Luckily the two Priests there are very reverent and do not commit any abuses (outside of the NO ordinary) they never talk politics, they preach from the early catechism, they never have guitars or Mass on rafts, etc. they are open to using Latin as much as they are comfortable. Once a month I will travel to the nearest Diocesan Latin Mass but it isn’t easy for me to get there. Pray for me. Pray for my Priests.
I returned to the Holy Apostolic Church this year after a 40 year walk of apostasy everywhere else. I experienced a crises of conscience in January that lasted five days. Had my "first" Sacrament of Confession mid February and recieved my first Sacrament of Communion two days later. Pray the Rosary daily and attend Our Lady of The Holy Rosary in Manitoba. I am HOME!!! THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR THIS CHANNEL; I subscribed after seeing my second video here. This stuff is amazing and a great help for people like me. God BLESS you guys. Velox Versutus Vigilans
@@oledocfarmer thanks so much. It's good to be back although when I left in the mid '80's I was NO. I returned to the SSPX so the same house; different annex perhaps!😎 Blessings to you Velox Versutus Vigilans
Thank you so much Fr Paul. This is really very helpful for those who are just starting to attend the Traditional Latin Mass. I will definitely share this video for those whom I have been inviting to attend the SSPX TLM. As always Fr Paul...you are such a great teacher. God bless you more.
Thank you, Father Robinson, for such helpful work here. We were received into the SSPX in 2019 and we will find this helpful over many months as we continue to learn about the Holy Latin Mass of the faithful. Amen Mr and Mrs Darley Choir of SSPX Manchester Great Britain
Thank you so much Fr. for you great help to us to understand and appreciate and admire the beauty of the Mass of all time. This is a great blessing to be able to better understand your gestures (and all priests) during Mass for us to bettter understand the Mass, the most reverent Mass God is pleased to be offered for all time. May God continue to bless this Mass till end of time and may He continue to bless the Society that strongly fight for Tradition.
Wonderful interview! I also watch Fr. Robinson's weekly broadcast of the Sunday mass on RUclips. Father is at Saint Isidore's Church in Watkins, Colorado.
Wow the Tridentine Mass is extraordinarily beautiful. No one has explained it to the laity as Father just did particularly in these times. Thank you. It would be so nice to see the SSPX produce a more comprehensive film/video on the Mass. It truly is a treasure..
When I learned how to be an Altar Boy, there was no such thing as the "Traditional Latin Mass." There was only "The Mass." The Liturgical Devastation started around 1964--a full 5 years before the NO Mass was imposed upon the Church. By the time the NO Mass was imposed on the Church the Mass had already had the stuffing beaten out of it. After I had stopped going to Church, I very glibly told anyone who would listen that "I didn't leave the Church -- the Church left me!" And I still don't believe that I was wrong! It took me a long while to realize that the Church had really gone into hiding! Please pray for the repose of the soul of Father Francis Fenton.
I think it's important to use the word 'Tridentine' rather than 'Traditional' --- it leads people to the Council of Trent--- and what you find there is undeniable and stengthens souls to what is True when it comes to the proper form , matter and intent of all the Sacraments
Thank you Father explaining for trident mass so wonderful from my youth . Traditional is so important to us that have aged. Thanksgiving amen Allelluia fiat fiat fiat God desires us all to live in his divine will moment by moment . ❤
I always tell my friends (and myself) a simple analogy of the Mass, comparing the Old and the New, It goes like this: The (Old) Mass, containing the Diamond (Our Lord Jesus Christ in the Eucharist,) Over time, is refined (Polished) and given more emphasis on the Sacrificial Nature of that very rite. Now, the New mass has that same Diamond (still valid) but it doesnt polish it, nor does it put it in a place where it sheds it's radiance, rather, it is thrown in a pit of mud where it is seen less, and often times ignored (and disrespected.)
Thank-you foe this excellent video. We need the the meaning g of the Holy Mass and the many parts of it. I've been participating in the mass not knowing exactly what it meant. God bless.
What a wonderful explanation of the Mass. I grew up pre Vatican 2 with the TLM and I do not think it was ever explained like that. Thankyou Father Robinson and Andrew. Is the information from Father Brown come from a book that he wrote?
Thank you very much for “unpacking” the Traditional Latin Mass. For the first 55 years of my life, I attended N.O. The Low Mass on Christmas Day 2021 was my first TLM. Question: at my SSPX mission, during Low Mass, the Confiteor is said 3 times: first by the priest, then by the server, and later (after the priest has consumed the Precious Blood), the server solemnly bows and says the Confiteor. How does Fr. Lebrun explain why this is done?
Am I wrong or does the Novus Ordo NOT have the epiclesis? It doesn't have the "Veni Sanctificator" or "Come O Sanctifier" or anything like it. Isn't that a huge problem?
Stay tuned for the next episode on the Novus Ordo… But it’s not a “huge problem” in terms of strict validity. Yet it’s a “huge problem” in all the other ways, yes.
I love everything you guys do. I have a question though, that bothers me to no end. The SSPX chapel I've been attending for years now, I've seen maybe, maybe 5 High Masses. It's ALWAYS Low Mass. Even Easter Mass is a low Mass. I'm grateful for SSPX but shouldn't Low Mass be the exception and not the rule? Especially for Easter Sunday?
That may be a question for the SSPX priest who cares for that Mission. I would say, as an SSPX priest, that in the small chapels it can be challenging to have enough competent people for choir, (organ), serving and sacristy to have a regular High Mass. But generally, yes you're right. Sometimes it becomes a vicious circle - the choir struggles, so the musical people ditch and go and sing with the diocesan Latin Mass choir, and so the SSPX choir never gets better. That is why we need the people who grasp the principles of our fight to be generous and consistent and try to build with the SSPX, even if it is (short-term) artistically less appealing than going to another Latin Mass. If you are musical, have you volunteered with the choir? :) In Christ, Fr. P. Franks
So interesting…. I read that the gradual has other roots too. Tomasi and the venerable Bede : both describe the original psalms that the gradual comes from as “Songs of Ascension” or “Progress Songs” describing the progress of a soul. An ancient Jewish view is that Psalm 119 was the first of 15 steps described as being used in procession to the Temple leading to the great portal, whilst the most ancient Christian tradition posits that they were ancient pilgrimage songs for going up to the Temple - I love to imagine the holy family singing these pilgrimage psalms with the boy Jesus…. In fact the commentary describes the recitation of the 15 “ Gradual Psalms” as a “ favourite private devotion of our Catholic forefathers…” (Pg 335 LOBVM A Treatise Imprimatur Cdl Vaughan 1903)
Father mentioned that the memento of the living is not necessarily the person the priest is offering this specific Mass for. Is there a point within the Mass where he directs that intention or is that something he does outside of the rite? Great series, thank you!
There is no specific point in the rite for that - it is normally done before the Mass itself, for instance, once the priest vests, but it could be done at any time before the consecration of the chalice.
Lord Jesus didnt tell what way we use in the mass, because it has to preserve for this end time. Same when John was about to write what he had seen in the vision, but the angel asked him.not to write it down what he had seen. So that part will be preserve for the future and that future is now !!!! In this last generation of human race!!!!. Now we can distinguish in the present life of our faith. The tradition or this.modern ways????? For me, we have to bring the traditional way of the mass. It is the way of how we purify truly our soul from.within us. Tradition is a way that works from within our inner true being!!!! True reverence before our True Lord Jesus Christ in receiving Him in the Holy Communion. Xxx
Can I be a Catholic in good standing with the Church and have access to all the Sacraments were I to join an FSSPX Parrish. Why settle on the 1962 Mass? There are earlier better Masses.
The logic behind using '62 instead of earlier versions is regarding the limits of self defense. The Society settled on '62 because it is considered the last acceptable version, not because it is the ideal version. The Church crisis is like an attack on the Faith, but even though an attacker may deserve a pummeling the victim can only do the minimum required for self-preservation and let a proper authority serve real justice later.The SSPX is not sedevacantist, meaning a degree of loyalty still needs to be demonstrated to the current hierarchy in Rome, and settling on the inferior (but still acceptable) '62 instead of re-adopting, say, pre-55' is the Society's way on doing that. At least that's my understanding.
We need to understand the prayers of the mass in a language we understand. Faith comes by hearing the Word of God to understand the Eucharist .the gift of the Blood and Body and. Body of `our Lord Jesus Christ. 84 year old cradle Catholic. The Holy Spirit more deeply. Converted me when I herd the mass in a language I understood.
When following the Mass with the Missal you have the option of Latin or vernacular, side by side. But you can always learn the rubrics in Latin, it’s kind of fun to learn new things anyway, isn’t it? Age is irrelevant for learning!
Jane Cormier. The Latin Mass is beautiful because it is universal, that is, small “c” catholic, a @dead@ language. The Wired’s will Vice the same, no meanings will change. Think of how vastly the word “gay” has changed over the years. A friend of ours loved her name. She could introduce herself by saying, “Hello, I’m Gay.” Today she’d be embarrassed .
One simply cannot compare the tridentine Mass with the New Mass and be satisfied that it means the same thing. If one says that it is the same, they are delusional
Have you read: "How Christ Said the First Mass?" It almost sounds like you're saying that Jesus consecrated bread and wine and then left it for the apostles to figure out the rest. Kind of sounds like the heresy of Deism. So disappointing. That is the same mindset as the fine fellows who decided to give us a "New Mass."
Schismatics. Love of a Mass isn't love of Jesus. The Council of Trent is from the 1500 which means many ceremonies are far older. Get out and go act like Jesus and stop spending money on buildings. Invest in people's lives. Not in material things.
I have something against the Latin Mass. There is so much singing and music. Why? I used to be Protestant and I played music there until they told me that I was causing people to sin by dating a non-Christian. I hate Christian music. It's so fake and yet when I watched a Latin Mass all there was was music. I could go to certain Novas Ordo Mass' with zero music. That is so appealing to me. It always will be. So, in my opinion, Gregory the Great wasted his time creating nonsense for no reason. There's another problem that i have with the Latin Mass. Why is it that the congregation never actually receives the Holy Eucharist? How is this a blessed event if the receiving never occurs? Once again, this huge moment occurs at every Novas Ordo Mass. In conclusion, the Novas Ordo is clearly superior. Sorry, but the Latin Mass sounds like an absolute waste of time.
The only good that came out of Covid was me finding the Latin Mass. 🙏
God is good for this fruit from such chastisement! Deo gratias! From Columbus had the same experience finding TLM during 2020 shutdown!
May God bless you 🙏
me too. have been at an sspx chapel for almost two years now
Me too
Me too!!!!!
I am a Traditional Catholic at heart, but there isn’t one near me. My NO parish is literally right next door. Luckily the two Priests there are very reverent and do not commit any abuses (outside of the NO ordinary) they never talk politics, they preach from the early catechism, they never have guitars or Mass on rafts, etc. they are open to using Latin as much as they are comfortable. Once a month I will travel to the nearest Diocesan Latin Mass but it isn’t easy for me to get there. Pray for me. Pray for my Priests.
I returned to the Holy Apostolic Church this year after a 40 year walk of apostasy everywhere else. I experienced a crises of conscience in January that lasted five days. Had my "first" Sacrament of Confession mid February and recieved my first Sacrament of Communion two days later. Pray the Rosary daily and attend Our Lady of The Holy Rosary in Manitoba. I am HOME!!! THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR THIS CHANNEL; I subscribed after seeing my second video here. This stuff is amazing and a great help for people like me. God BLESS you guys.
Velox Versutus Vigilans
Congratulations! Welcome Home!
Welcome back! God bless you!
@@greenacresgirl6259 Hey! Thx so much sister. God Bless YOU too!!!📿
Velox Versutus Vigilans
@@oledocfarmer thanks so much. It's good to be back although when I left in the mid '80's I was NO. I returned to the SSPX so the same house; different annex perhaps!😎
Blessings to you
Velox Versutus Vigilans
This the only hope for the Church today...return to tradition.
Thank you so much Fr Paul. This is really very helpful for those who are just starting to attend the Traditional Latin Mass. I will definitely share this video for those whom I have been inviting to attend the SSPX TLM. As always Fr Paul...you are such a great teacher. God bless you more.
In tradition, we usually refer to the priests using their surname, eg Father Robinson
Thank you, Father Robinson, for such helpful work here. We were received into the SSPX in 2019 and we will find this helpful over many months as we continue to learn about the Holy Latin Mass of the faithful.
Amen
Mr and Mrs Darley
Choir of SSPX Manchester Great Britain
What a lovely explanation, thank you so much. 🙏🙏🙏
Thank you Father Robinson and Andrew.
Thank you so much Fr. for you great help to us to understand and appreciate and admire the beauty of the Mass of all time. This is a great blessing to be able to better understand your gestures (and all priests) during Mass for us to bettter understand the Mass, the most reverent Mass God is pleased to be offered for all time. May God continue to bless this Mass till end of time and may He continue to bless the Society that strongly fight for Tradition.
Thank you Father Paul
Wonderful interview! I also watch Fr. Robinson's weekly broadcast of the Sunday mass on RUclips. Father is at Saint Isidore's Church in Watkins, Colorado.
This is so helpful for those that are new to the TLM. Thanks!
So helpful, thankyou
thank you Fr🙏
Wow the Tridentine Mass is extraordinarily beautiful. No one has explained it to the laity as Father just did particularly in these times. Thank you. It would be so nice to see the SSPX produce a more comprehensive film/video on the Mass. It truly is a treasure..
Thank you, Father. This was beautiful!
Thank you 🙏🏼
Thank you so much. God bless you 🕊✝️
When I learned how to be an Altar Boy, there was no such thing as the "Traditional Latin Mass." There was only "The Mass." The Liturgical Devastation started around 1964--a full 5 years before the NO Mass was imposed upon the Church. By the time the NO Mass was imposed on the Church the Mass had already had the stuffing beaten out of it. After I had stopped going to Church, I very glibly told anyone who would listen that "I didn't leave the Church -- the Church left me!" And I still don't believe that I was wrong! It took me a long while to realize that the Church had really gone into hiding!
Please pray for the repose of the soul of Father Francis Fenton.
May God grant to Father eternal rest
I think it's important to use the word 'Tridentine' rather than 'Traditional' --- it leads people to the Council of Trent--- and what you find there is undeniable and stengthens souls to what is True when it comes to the proper form , matter and intent of all the Sacraments
I would rather call it the Jewish Passover Didn't Jesus attend His Own Death Prayers. Queen Elizabeth11 chose her funeral prayers.
Mass of All Ages
Thank you
How wonderful,that Father LeBrun’s book is available in French. I lived in
France for about 8 years and speak French fluently.
I’ve just clicked on this video - it’s an interesting topic. I sometimes read the Mass of the Catechumens in my Latin Mass book (ex-catholic now).
Let us pray you return through the great SSPX
Amen
O please find a Latin Mass and return, do not starve your soul. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🕯️🦋
Reading "Work of Human Hands" by Rev. Anthony Cekada is a great way to understand the issues we are all facing within the church.
Thank you Father explaining for trident mass so wonderful from my youth . Traditional is so important to us that have aged. Thanksgiving amen Allelluia fiat fiat fiat God desires us all to live in his divine will moment by moment . ❤
It's a brutal existence in the land between the Novus Ordo and the TLM but it's the reality some of us are living.
Yes 😢 I am there as well. Pray for us
@@szudy76 Me too.
I always tell my friends (and myself) a simple analogy of the Mass, comparing the Old and the New, It goes like this: The (Old) Mass, containing the Diamond (Our Lord Jesus Christ in the Eucharist,) Over time, is refined (Polished) and given more emphasis on the Sacrificial Nature of that very rite. Now, the New mass has that same Diamond (still valid) but it doesnt polish it, nor does it put it in a place where it sheds it's radiance, rather, it is thrown in a pit of mud where it is seen less, and often times ignored (and disrespected.)
I use Cain and Abel’s offerings, both were acceptable to the Lord, but Abel’s was favored.
📿rosary 🙏rosary 📿
Pax Domini Sit Semper Vobiscum!!!
Thank-you foe this excellent video. We need the the meaning g of the Holy Mass and the many parts of it. I've been participating in the mass not knowing exactly what it meant. God bless.
Fantastic video
What a wonderful explanation of the Mass. I grew up pre Vatican 2 with the TLM and I do not think it was ever explained like that. Thankyou Father Robinson and Andrew. Is the information from Father Brown come from a book that he wrote?
Yes Father mentioned that it was written in French
It was definitely taught the Mass was Perpetual and couldn't be changed. It was Christ's mass His Own Death Prayers said in the Temple in Jerusalem.
Thank you very much for “unpacking” the Traditional Latin Mass.
For the first 55 years of my life, I attended N.O. The Low Mass on Christmas Day 2021 was my first TLM.
Question: at my SSPX mission, during Low Mass, the Confiteor is said 3 times: first by the priest, then by the server, and later (after the priest has consumed the Precious Blood), the server solemnly bows and says the Confiteor. How does Fr. Lebrun explain why this is done?
Quick question for Father Robinson, when and why was our beloved St. Joseph was added to the Canon of the Mass?
54:20 my son agrees... He struggles with the Suscipiat. He wanted to skip learning it because he can just read it instead of saying it from memory.
Am I wrong or does the Novus Ordo NOT have the epiclesis? It doesn't have the "Veni Sanctificator" or "Come O Sanctifier" or anything like it. Isn't that a huge problem?
Stay tuned for the next episode on the Novus Ordo…
But it’s not a “huge problem” in terms of strict validity. Yet it’s a “huge problem” in all the other ways, yes.
I wish i could attend TLM but here in North East India, there isn't one available
I love everything you guys do. I have a question though, that bothers me to no end. The SSPX chapel I've been attending for years now, I've seen maybe, maybe 5 High Masses. It's ALWAYS Low Mass. Even Easter Mass is a low Mass. I'm grateful for SSPX but shouldn't Low Mass be the exception and not the rule? Especially for Easter Sunday?
That may be a question for the SSPX priest who cares for that Mission. I would say, as an SSPX priest, that in the small chapels it can be challenging to have enough competent people for choir, (organ), serving and sacristy to have a regular High Mass. But generally, yes you're right. Sometimes it becomes a vicious circle - the choir struggles, so the musical people ditch and go and sing with the diocesan Latin Mass choir, and so the SSPX choir never gets better. That is why we need the people who grasp the principles of our fight to be generous and consistent and try to build with the SSPX, even if it is (short-term) artistically less appealing than going to another Latin Mass. If you are musical, have you volunteered with the choir? :) In Christ, Fr. P. Franks
So interesting…. I read that the gradual has other roots too. Tomasi and the venerable Bede : both describe the original psalms that the gradual comes from as “Songs of Ascension” or “Progress Songs” describing the progress of a soul. An ancient Jewish view is that Psalm 119 was the first of 15 steps described as being used in procession to the Temple leading to the great portal, whilst the most ancient Christian tradition posits that they were ancient pilgrimage songs for going up to the Temple - I love to imagine the holy family singing these pilgrimage psalms with the boy Jesus….
In fact the commentary describes the recitation of the 15 “ Gradual Psalms” as a “ favourite private devotion of our Catholic forefathers…”
(Pg 335 LOBVM A Treatise Imprimatur Cdl Vaughan 1903)
Regarding the books mentioned, I believe you mean The Mass, Fr. Joseph Dunney available through Biretta Books
Father mentioned that the memento of the living is not necessarily the person the priest is offering this specific Mass for. Is there a point within the Mass where he directs that intention or is that something he does outside of the rite?
Great series, thank you!
There is no specific point in the rite for that - it is normally done before the Mass itself, for instance, once the priest vests, but it could be done at any time before the consecration of the chalice.
Is the "Traditional Latin Mass" synonymous with the Tridentine Mass? Why is the term Tridentine not used anymore?
And at 44.01 there's only two people at the altar and no children's finger paintings or lay women flapping around
during the incensaton of the Altar at both points why does the priest cense the cross instead of the tabernacle where our Lord is truly present??
Lord Jesus didnt tell what way we use in the mass, because it has to preserve for this end time. Same when John was about to write what he had seen in the vision, but the angel asked him.not to write it down what he had seen. So that part will be preserve for the future and that future is now !!!! In this last generation of human race!!!!. Now we can distinguish in the present life of our faith. The tradition or this.modern ways????? For me, we have to bring the traditional way of the mass. It is the way of how we purify truly our soul from.within us. Tradition is a way that works from within our inner true being!!!! True reverence before our True Lord Jesus Christ in receiving Him in the Holy Communion. Xxx
Can I be a Catholic in good standing with the Church and have access to all the Sacraments were I to join an FSSPX Parrish. Why settle on the 1962 Mass? There are earlier better Masses.
Are they better? Here, you don't receive the Eucharist. How is that better?
The logic behind using '62 instead of earlier versions is regarding the limits of self defense. The Society settled on '62 because it is considered the last acceptable version, not because it is the ideal version. The Church crisis is like an attack on the Faith, but even though an attacker may deserve a pummeling the victim can only do the minimum required for self-preservation and let a proper authority serve real justice later.The SSPX is not sedevacantist, meaning a degree of loyalty still needs to be demonstrated to the current hierarchy in Rome, and settling on the inferior (but still acceptable) '62 instead of re-adopting, say, pre-55' is the Society's way on doing that. At least that's my understanding.
Where's the sports joke, boasting, sjw and fluffy nice feelings speech that I'm used to? Lol
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We need to understand the prayers of the mass in a language we understand. Faith comes by hearing the Word of God to understand the Eucharist .the gift of the Blood and Body and. Body of `our Lord Jesus Christ. 84 year old cradle Catholic. The Holy Spirit more deeply. Converted me when I herd the mass in a language I understood.
When following the Mass with the Missal you have the option of Latin or vernacular, side by side. But you can always learn the rubrics in Latin, it’s kind of fun to learn new things anyway, isn’t it? Age is irrelevant for learning!
you have a bilingual missal to follow you. no excuses. the priest is talking to God, not you. Latin is a sacred language, and it will stay.
Jane Cormier. The Latin Mass is beautiful because it is universal, that is, small “c” catholic, a @dead@ language. The Wired’s will Vice the same, no meanings will change. Think of how vastly the word “gay” has changed over the years. A friend of ours loved her name. She could introduce herself by saying, “Hello, I’m Gay.” Today she’d be embarrassed .
When Latin is universally used for Mass you can go almost anywhere in the world and feel like you are home.❤
One simply cannot compare the tridentine Mass with the New Mass and be satisfied that it means the same thing. If one says that it is the same, they are delusional
Have you read: "How Christ Said the First Mass?" It almost sounds like you're saying that Jesus consecrated bread and wine and then left it for the apostles to figure out the rest. Kind of sounds like the heresy of Deism. So disappointing. That is the same mindset as the fine fellows who decided to give us a "New Mass."
Schismatics. Love of a Mass isn't love of Jesus. The Council of Trent is from the 1500 which means many ceremonies are far older. Get out and go act like Jesus and stop spending money on buildings. Invest in people's lives. Not in material things.
How are they schismatic? Present facts and proof rather than slander. You come across like a arrogant protestant.
I have something against the Latin Mass. There is so much singing and music. Why? I used to be Protestant and I played music there until they told me that I was causing people to sin by dating a non-Christian. I hate Christian music. It's so fake and yet when I watched a Latin Mass all there was was music. I could go to certain Novas Ordo Mass' with zero music. That is so appealing to me. It always will be.
So, in my opinion, Gregory the Great wasted his time creating nonsense for no reason.
There's another problem that i have with the Latin Mass. Why is it that the congregation never actually receives the Holy Eucharist? How is this a blessed event if the receiving never occurs? Once again, this huge moment occurs at every Novas Ordo Mass. In conclusion, the Novas Ordo is clearly superior. Sorry, but the Latin Mass sounds like an absolute waste of time.
I attend the Latin mass and I receive the Eucharist every time? Not sure what your comment meant…
Thank you