1 thing this game tells me is...nerf artist! Because she's the real problem in dead by daylight! (Kidding but watch this space) also was a requested build on legion. But the "power role" even without the best killer and or perks, shouldn't experience this in a 4vs1 asymmetrical with mmr.
I always thought in a 4v1 game the power role should be given to the 1 and 4 fight for it but in DBD the killer is fighting for control and sadly for most of roster there fighting and losing hard.
First, this team was so toxic and this is very much what’s wrong with DBD. But I feel like you missed your chance when they body blocked to frenzy all 4 of them. Had they been forced to mend they couldn’t have went in lockers
@@johnwarner4178 they wouldn't have allowed me to get all 4 mending. But good idea, if it worked just once they would have never allowed it to work again so it would have only secured me 1 hook anyway.
Have you checked the information datamined by Swish yet? He found that the game utilizes your highest MMR killer as part of the formula when you queue on ANY killer, even one you haven't played before. For example, a 1900 MMR Spirit playing Legion for the first time still gets thrown into a 1700 MMR lobby even though killers should be starting at 1100 MMR. The devs stated previously that killers would have their own MMR but failed to mention that your highest killer's MMR still plays a role in the formula. That said, the hard cap is 3800 MMR so if you're bodying SWF at that rank then I'm pretty sure your Legion is going to be way higher than what MMR you're expecting it to be.
What's that, wraith can now semi compete? But what's that I hear? A shit survivor says he's over tuned on twitter and has loads of other entitled survivor mains agreeing? I think we need to nerf him, that shit survivor and group said so! we'll even use all the same terminology they used when mentioning it in the patch notes.
@@TrU3Ta1ent and since wraith has been buffed, we are considering giving survivors all a gun to use against the killer! It’ll have a 20 second stun on the killer, a 3 second cooldown, and you can use it whenever you want!
Because when you get a good challenging game as killer its FUN, and survivors have fun. You feel like a big terrible slasher monster but also they feel like horror film protaganists on the third movie that are trying to fight back. I had a round as legion where it went for 45 minutes as the last two survivors tried desperately to fix gens I was patroling and hiding expertly. then when they finished it was a massive race to the exit gate where only one of them managed to escape by the skin of their teeth and they were so happy we chatted for like 10 minutes about how good we all did. DBD when you have both sides accept their "roles" and play them to a T is a fun ass game. But when survivors wanna be monsters without being killer....thats when the game turns toxic quickly
@@NameIsDoc *Сringe* (You don't get fun if you be extrimely sweaty at entired game , You just be Mental Exhausted :D (That happend for me every time in that games), and that absolutly destroing your motivation and hope when you anyway losing! :D)
There is indeed zero incentive to get good with either role. As (solo) survivor at least half of your games are usually a breeze if you get good teammates even without the benefits of Discord - I mean, it's enough to throw down pallets after running a circle around them once or twice while your team is sitting on gens more often than not, so why would you try to increase your overall skills? As killer getting better, racking up kills and thus raising your MMR is being rewarded with pain and suffering (a.k.a. high MMR survivors as opponents) which is why I started letting the last 1 or 2 survivors finish up the gens and leave even if I previously dominated them to keep my MMR from going up substancially. When you don't play to win what's your motivation to improve? If I only get 1 kill instead of the 2 I'm normally going for, what's the big difference? In fact it's actually a "win" to kill less survivors because that means your MMR goes down and not up - it's just sad really. As a developer you know your game has pretty much screwed the pooch when "losing" as one role is factually more rewarding than doing well... sigh.
@@baseballfan4877 where’s the troll? Do you need me to point them all out? Stop watching mediocre gameplay like he’s the best player. Go learn from someone actually good
I've uninstalled DBD. I'm not a high MMR Killer and run into this stuff all the time. Low tier is fun and feels balanced but when you start to get out of it the game starts to fall apart. When they introduced MMR the balance was much better in my waters but then this kind of Survivor learned how to manipulate their MMR and away we go.
That was painful to watch, I had something similar happen yesterday and it’s frustrating. I may continue to watch, but it’s about time to walk away from this game, the developers don’t care, and there are more games out there to be played. It’s gonna be hilarious when the game inevitably dies do to lack of killers, then Behavior can look in the mirror and know their arrogance quickened the pace.
I feel you man. I was killer main and after having continuously rounds where I felt absolutely powerless to deal with survivors, which in many cases were toxic af, I stopped playing. It's too unbalanced and too frustrating, especially for killers. I still enjoy watching dbd content though.
This video needs to be shown to everyone in the dbd community, They went to nerf spirit massively, nerf deathsligner, nerf Freddy, nerf Billy, nerf wraith, but THIS is fine?! Where is the counterplay to a swf who can call you out constantly and set traps for guaranteed flashlight saves??? Why do killers need to be nerfed when survivors can loop this good AND jump into a team with strategic coordination and boons with infinite healing?! I don't know how you went on the stream, I'm switching games after that. I wouldn't have even put up with that, I faking chase and opening the doors myself.
You see that kind of SWF at worst once a month if you're a really big player, when other broken things you said are experienced almost each game. Stop crying omg.
@@MaxHamster94 What's broken? The nerfed killers that apparently had no counterplay? (I'll agree with Spirit to a level, but now her ability is awful) A swf of that level, toxic or not, has no counterplay either. Double standards. Circle of healing can be snuffed and replaced forever with over 100% bonus healing speed. People massively lower their mmr on purpose to face and demolish weak players on both sides. But you don't see a problem with that? It's a 1v4 game and a lot of people treat it like a 1v1 and get upset when they're caught in 60 seconds. This game could be so much more than it is, and yes this isn't a game you get everyday, but it's a game the "power role" should have a serious challenge, not get tossed around from survivor to survivor who are always backing each other up easily. Discord is the strongest survivor perk and the game should be balanced for it but isn't.
@@MaxHamster94 that’s true, but you’re missing point. The game is imbalance with right hands of people. This shouldn’t happen the killer role should be the power role. 4v1 this video highlights that basic mechanics of the game can be abused
This may sound too dramatic, but watching you play gives me strength. I'm like "if he can go through this and keep his calm, so can I" (But it's still just not worth it man)
@@elijefferson1994 ya, but I'd like it if he ditched this sorry excuse for a game and played something else that is more enjoyable. Cant see a reason why he would keep playing this
@@TrU3Ta1ent I saw a video by SpooknJukes where it was salty people and this whole team had flashlights so the killer took Lightborn and the streamer got pissed calling him all sorts of obsenities and quit the game simply because he couldnt bling him.
I raise my hat to you kind sir, I would most likely have thrown a punch into a wall after a game like this, you looked sad more than anything. Good luck next
I saw this as the future of dbd and people didn't listen coz they wanted to lie and pretend that this wasn't the direction we were heading. I'm not sad, just dissapointed at the ignorance around this game.
@@TrU3Ta1ent sadly at this point I think this game is just going to keep heading in that sad direction I started playing around silent Hill I even started getting better at killer but this developer is ignorant and the community theyve created is ignorant.
@@TrU3Ta1ent Just for curiosity, who are the people "not listening"? I feel like the players who are at public communication channels (reddit, twitter) mostly agree on what is broken and not (with many exceptions of course), but ultimately it comes down to developer incompetence (which is a well known fact at this point). Doesn't matter what the community say or not when clearly it's showing that the developers doesn't listen to the community but rather hang up on their own statistics.
@@shaNk9x Basically those who are Main Survivors, are the ones to blame for not improving the game, and the worst thing is that the developers take them into account, for example, the Main Survivors said that the old trickster was fine when it was the opposite
What the hell are you talking about....I main Survivor and I dont play like this and no one I play with plays like this but I can write a fookin book on how Killers play if you want to learn about that!? My concern is people whining about this experience could cause changes that effects me who plays casually and does not do stretch res comp SWF bully nonsense. I mean I get up to the occasional headon play now and again but once I am done chuckling about how funny it was I find I am getting power tunneled and I am like "yeah I deserve this". There is lot of fun in this game for top MMR killers and there is lots of fun to be had as Top MMR Survivor but Both sides tend to focus only on the narrowest of negative outcomes when wanting balance fixes or the devs to swoop in or just to complain about some toy they liked previously that got taken away. What actual record, what actual average result do you think you should be able to get as a killer? I think most killers AVERERAGE at least a 2k and non stop piss themselves about how survivor sided the game is lol. I do think that if Survivors just to the damn gens its super in their favor but thats not at all how it actually plays out. Hell you cant exactly accuse the survivors in this game of gen rushing, as they were too busy clowning at the Saloon, so do you want interaction with the survivors or do you want gen rushers?
an immense empathy, is what I feel for you at this moment. The lamentable state of the game is laughable, I personally, after several years being my main game, I am no longer playing, because the truth is that I no longer have fun. The MMR has me at a point, that I need to play at 100% of my concentration, to only get the occasional hang up. And I am not at that moment in my life, in which I need that level of stress, on the contrary, I need a game that I can play to disconnect, not to leave the pc wanting to break the whole house. Peace of mind is what I have now
@Boneits not at all, they got together and purposely calculated a build which doesn't have any counterplay whatsoever so they could abuse it, they couldn't "try to survive" cause people who exploit the game to choose easy mode like this, can't play normally, they don't have the brain capacity to get better. Also it's obvious that they don't do this for fun bc there is no fun in getting a free win while playing less then mediocre, it's given to them and they know it because they went after it
this is just the game at this point. best we can hopeful is it just keeps bleeding killer players. i've already seen some survivors complain about 15 minute queues. potentially have a deathgarden situation. everyone wanted to play scavenger, no one wanted to play hunter. as someone else said, i only watch the game now i've only played 3 matches in the past few months, only been logging in for the advent blood points.
@@123darkpassenger Imagine if Lightborn became meta at high ranks. Can you imagine how fast they'd rework it? *Lightborn now reduces the time you're blinded by 25%. Developer Comment: We've received a lot of feedback from survivors saying they can't bully a killer with Lightborn. To keep the game fun for everyone, we felt it was time to rework this perk.
Jesus. fucking. Christ. that was. I really don't know how you play this game every single day tru3. Incredible ammount of Resilance. All the respect to you.
@@BaldorfBreakdowns homie got pissed about a 3man swf with flashlights and was ready to accuse them of cheating because he didn't know about the window. He also willingly stayed around the building and was fuming post-match about the fact that the survivors were using stretched res- which we don't know for certain, btw. He bitched and moaned the entire match about how unfair swfs were and didn't stop for a moment to think that maybe he was falling for their bait. The random did the gens by themselves unimpeded because he literally never left chase with the swf. Is it difficult to counter bully squad swfs? Absolutely. But let's not pretend the man didn't get so pissed he tunnel visioned the three that wanted his attention and left the other person do gens without resistance. Yep, sounds like the thickest skin in the world doesn't it?
@@makashika That is what I said after all, that he has the thickest skin of all time, right? I'd love to have seen your reaction to going against this in a live stream. I'm sure you'd be 100% calm and collected and none of it would bother you at all. And gotten a 12 hook 4k.
The worst thing about these sweat squad swfs is that they try to downplay that they were being try hards and deny they were swfs. It’s utter pathetic when I check their friend lists or go into some of streamers twitch and see that they are 4 man swfs. Most of them don’t even play killers knowing full well that it is much harder and stressful than playing a survivor. They know it yet they act like they are some god gamers when they bring meta perks and 4 man swf.
I only watch DBD now. It's just more stressful/frustrating than fun. Even for solo survivor MMR completely has ruined the game. Devs clearly don't and never will care about the game at high level. I wish there was other games with a similar concept to enjoy playing.
There are other games that only just started, try them for a while maybe. Agree completely, its not even fun to watch anymore when you know stuff is broken and devs do nothing about it on survivor side.
@@corvette9218 Just encountered a swf with 3 brand new parts on Haddonfield, as a Freddy. I'm a killer devotion 1, 200hrs in game, how I'm supposed to win against them? With the House of Pain too on that map. I can't even try killers or fun perks because it's always like that! I'm not that bad as a killer but against THESE swf (with the convenient map for them) I can't win
Yep, players like this kept crying about killers like spirit because they couldn't do shit like this to her because she's "too op". its so annoying when you outplay them but are saved by bullshit mechanics
Leave this game while you can. As much as passion as you can have it ain’t gonna make any difference as to what you want done that’ll make it fun and fresh. These new chapters they’re doing ain’t even enough for me to even consider the possibility of playing the game again.
It's truly upsetting because this game has always had massive potential but if the Devs continue to not give a shit about how miserable this game is to play as killer I truly do hope it fails. Killers need to go on strike or some shit lol.
@@TrU3Ta1ent I've only just started watching your stream a few months back, 100% if you've had enough of DBD I'd and many others would glady watch you play something else until DBD gets some balance.
I wish this video went viral or instigated something. It's sad that this is allowed but the devs won't do shit as long as the player base is high and their add-ons are selling. Sadly, the best way to get the devs to listen is probably to stop playing
A lot of players, who also happen to mostly or only play survivor, love that the game is like this. They get to hop on DBD with their buddies and exert minimal effort compared to most of the killers they face, even if the killer player is good, and especially so if the killer is playing a non meta killer, and they reap all the benefits of the game being balanced around average/low skill players. They love that the game is terribly balanced because it benefits them. You won't see the majority of these people on MK, CSGO or really any other PvP game that takes actual skill and has balance.
@@sjokonge I knew about that window 7 months ago, and I thought they've fixed it by now because they've disabled this map once or twice but I guess they ignored it.
Behavior is killing their game. I used to mostly play killer and some survivor and now I only play survivor because this is what the game is like as killer. It's so stressful and not worth the time or the effort. So good job behavior. Amazing concept and such potential in this game but it's so wasted by a group of idiot devs.
After years with this game I finally had to drop it because it just became way too stressful to deal with anymore. I still watch gameplay from my favorite content creators and keep up with the game, but I just can't handle playing the game myself anymore with swfs being the only thing playing killer has to offer and a sudden rise of hackers with MMR. but I felt the need to comment because now just watching the game has become painful, especially this match. Everything you had to say about the game is true, and you aren't afraid to say things that other creators try not to say, and that's why I love your content. I don't know how you do it, but I'm glad you still enjoy the game, and I hope you continue to do what you seem to love doing.
I'm pretty sure most gaming companies would describe this as an exploit, essentially using a broken game design to gain an unfair advantage. This survivor community is already one of the saltiest I've ever seen, just sad. Game is dead without killers maybe salty survivors should be glad for some opposition and be thankful anyone is even willing to play a bunch of douchebags
Survivors who play like the ones at the first game can be really annoying to play against, but normally you get a free win because they aren't doing the objective much. These players were incredibly good though, so they are an anomaly. And as True keeps saying there is no counter-play to the locker-to-flashlight-save play, I mostly agree but also consider the fact that flashlights aren't unlimited. Could also have used Lightborn if you saw in the lobby they brought a lot of flashlights. The play would be to zone other survivors away from those lockers, but these survivors were incredibly skilled. Essentially I would say the problem comes down to really good survivors with really good perks, against a mediocre killer (the character, not the player) and "not the best" perks. It's a problem of game balacing on multiple factors, as well as a unique map-design "flaw". I also disagree that SWF is broken. It is absolutely way stronger than 4 solo-queues, but essentially it's not game breaking. It should come down to the ranking system evaluating them as better players, as well as rating them even higher when they are premades due to the likelihood of them being on communications / playing around each other. And finally, it doesn't help that the difference between the killer balancing are so high. If you are the best Nurse in the world, and the game gives you a survivor team accordingly, but you happen to be playing a WAY worse killer this game, you are automatically at a huge disadvantage. Then you factor in RNG elements like the map...
@@shaNk9x They select flashlight the last moment which is at six seconds before the game locks any actions. Furthermore, your opinion of the mmr ranking them higher just because they are SWFs is wrong. No matter how good the killer is, four people with communication and skill can bully them. Do not ignore the problem just because it suits your needs. Be a healthy person.
That particular corner locker with the drop right next to it is 101% without ANY argument an exploit, and that's why they heavily abused it. You literally CANNOT react to it.
The flashlight throu the miniscule space in the window was meant to be fixed. So basically those guys just exploited a bug, you should've reported them. BTW on high ranks as soon I see a flashlight I just go with Franklin's. Just to piss them off.
Holy fuck this was infuriating to watch. I remember when True would get dope ass 4Ks with Legion. It wasn't a total stomp. It was a fair game on both sides. He didn't necessarily have to camp or tunnel. This is especially painful to me because I absolutely love Legion. They're one of my favorite killers and because of the state of the game and people like this, they're nigh utterly useless.
So what were survivors suppose to do? Intentionally play bad? Not use the windows and vaults and items just so they can give the killer a pity hook? Not go for flashlight saves when they know how to do it legit? Boohoo you had 1 or 2 games where you were not the power role as killer...big fucking deal...eat the L and move on to the next match or another game. The game is asymetrical its 4 v 1 by design! You knew what you singed up for when you entered the community. SWF is one of its biggest selling points and it SHOULD BE. A video game is for fun not for ultra competitive no life solo ques who care about results and outcomes in a video game like their life depends on them .if you can't separate fun from competitive, thats a you problem. Go outside, touch some grass. But no, instead you are so obsessed over the results and outcomes of dbd matches, to the point where you can't sleep at night untill you vent your frustration on twitter at 12 midnight, HOURS after said match ended. Call me a loser, call me anything you want, even ignore me, but atleast i can sleep at night with even 0 kills as killers just as well as if i got 4 kills. My life does not revolve around the end results or expirience i get from a videogame.
@@tappmain8858 i'm sure your queen tru3ta1ent appreciates your loyalty. My bad, i didn't know you brainless drones treat the commentary section like a popularity contest. I'll take the L and the entire alphabet any day over being a whiney bitch like your hero or a brainless white knight like you. Cheers mate.
@@hilariouslookinggen1growli846 you probably couldn't read it even if you wanted to, seeing as that was the best you could come up with and looking at how you obey tru3 without using your own judgement. Cheers mate
Thats why i quit playing DbD. I play on the xbox. And what I noticed. Since we started crossplay, the number of cheaters has increased unbelievably. Before crossplay there was absolutely no cheaters on the console. Now felt in every 3 game something is wrong. Imagine playing with a controller against those people.... ZERO Chance.
One of the biggest things I keep noticing you doing is not using the gap in the outer second floor of the saloon to cut off a Survivor. For example, at 11:26 to 11:28, you could have instead simply went to that gap on your left and dropped down to cut off the Survivor or force them to go in a direction you wanted to go. Instead, you chose to keep going the same way the entire match. This might have been a mistake as you're actually going in the direction the Survivors want YOU to go, rather than forcing them to go the direction you want THEM to go. Simply jumping down from that area would have been something to mindgame them since you would've already conditioned them to go that direction on a constant.
Tru3 never likes to see that he mades mistakes and blames it on several things other than himself. Even with a debuff of time, those extra 50secs aren't gonna do shit lmao
Also he’s legion commit to the person with mend so they can’t stay in the locker, I noticed that too his pathing at main was very Hold W I’m not saying that there was counterplay but lightborn, franklins, deep wound I remember I baited a locker save with double lockers using Iron maiden once potato neas gotta love em lol
@@georgewashington9445 also what makes swf so frustrating and, like the title says, what's wrong with DBD. They'll act blasé and say that they're just trying to have innocent fun and that they aren't trying to be toxic, but they intentionally switch to flashlights before the timer is out and do other mind game stuff like that which is clearly intentional😂
Watching that was brutal… like the dude flash lighting you against the wall and then hopping in lockers to get a guaranteed flashlight save… this would be incredibly annoying to deal with
Survivors are getting stronger Why? The killer has become too difficult to play in There is no balance in the game between survivor and killer 1- They can delete your features 2- 16 advantages vs 4 and they can delete them 3- They can blow you up with light bombs 4- They can make booby traps 5- They can hit you with platforms 6- They have a flashlight that can blind you 7- Generator skills are very easy 8- There is no bleeding after the survivor is killed, and the survivors can help without first aid 9- They have a hole in the operating room if the last survivor is left without a generator. If the pit door is locked, they can escape the gates to get out 10- They have a key that can escape after 3 generators There are chests and windows in the map!! The survivor moves fast and dodges I don't know why all this support for the survivors?? How can you play all this against you!? There are many hackers where is your protection!?
THE MONTH SWF came out I said this shit would happen. Everyone kept saying "dude we just want to play our games with our friends". Fast forward 5 fucking years and this is what we have. However, you get 4 solo's in the same match together and killers absolutely fucking dominate almost every single time. Its not even close. The dichotomy this game exhibits right now is so disgusting.
omg this match looks so stressful that i would just quit , like i said one time in the past Tru3, the killers in this game are just entertainers doing a free job for the devs, some of us have lives and we don't want to deal with stressful things like this and the devs fail to understand this fact.
This is a very abusive swf and they are definitely exploiting animation locks, but to say there is no "counter-play" to that is incorrect. With the plethora of perks there are in this game, not every build is meant to dominate every match. Lightborn and Franklin's are perfect counter-plays to this.
@CPTALCATRAZ96IT am I wrong? If so please do tell. All I'm saying is yes swf is wrong with the game, especially ones like this. But to say there is no counter-play is incorrect
@@ssscorpius2011 He was doing a viewer build. There was no way to counter it in that game. You can’t slug because they’ll get him up again. You can’t frenzy that’s just a waste. How else was he suppose to combat this with those perks and killer?
Running a perk isn't coutnerplay. Counterplay is playing a specific way to counter a strategy/killer. Equipping light born or franklins to get rid of flash saves isnt counterplay
Everyone in the comments keep mentioning lightborn when you see them all 4 have flashlights in the pre game lobby but you guys forget about the possibility that they could exploit the feature of last second swapping survivors so he couldn't really prepare for it anyways if they did that. The killer is also given 0 indication of whether or not the survivors are queued together so there really just isn't a way around this stupid situation.
This is probably why I like to watch VHS now. Killer/Survivors there just seem much funner to watch and look like their all having some form of fun where in DbD higher level gameplay devolves into just bullying
I went against this so many times aswell. I respect how you kept playing, if I get those I usually go and get a coffee lr smthg and go to the next round cause why playing? Its not unlikely you win, its impossible. With some killers at least.
I love how at the end of the game he says "nobody told you to play legion". So its pretty much saying that you can only play meta killers or dont bother playing.
Well using a viewer build + having a good team would cause this issue. Yet playing certain killers gives your certain abilities. You know what will work and what will not playing top tier. Not all killers can get 4K versus top teams or people who know how to play the game. Even with Meta killers True has manage to escape either two or atleast himself. You play the killer of your choice and get good and can not win them all. So saying this is literally like saying yeah I feel a 9mm pistol should beat a 50. cal.
@@JaysGamingAdventuresPCVRAIRSOF I don't like the parallel you've made. You can change the 9mm pistol whenever you want if it doesn't work, meanwhile you can't swap Legion for Nurse within a same game to adapt to the people you play against. What you're saying is that it's fine that once you've reached a certain MMR, that you can't play a character anymore because it's bad. You should always have a chance to win even against the higher level players, that's just balance issues if you can't.
Some food for thought Tru3, legion specifically counters that gameplay style. Deep Wound downs survivors in lockers. You had one abort the locker cause they was about to go down. You just have to force them to stay inside.
It is because of this type of thing that there are no killers and consequently, the survivor ranks take longer, this game disgusts me so much that I am almost a month old without playing it
Honestly why I’m looking forward to VHS. The back and forth looks so fun, high level gameplay is so back and forth also. Watching this video solidifys why I hate dbd now
The biggest problem of the game has always been map balance. Its simply mindblowing how a lot of games are literally decided by which map you rolled with which killer. I dont understand why maps like Lerys or Red forest are still in the game and also how god windows that make infinites have not been addressed after so many years.
Same with me. Played as Myers on Badham map against Finnish swf. They went for "fun" locker plays in stupidly good MB(Head on/Quick & Quiet/DS/IronWill). At the end I got them all but damage was done. It was painfull. And I dont even close to the pro level like Tru3. I am just a casual that hop in DBD in the evening...
Just because certain locker save spots are bullshit doesn't mean certain killers who got nerfed weren't problems. The rest of the issues exemplified was just Legion getting rolled by DDS Main: So good survivors running a weak killer with no chase abilities on a main building that should probably be nerfed. However double locker saves, and lockers in very strong main buildings like DDS Main (especially that one where they could drop down) are definitely problematic. Again, just because one side has bullshit, doesn't make other bullshit fine. BHVR targeting Killer bullshit probably comes down to it being complained more about, which isn't fair either tho, but just how it is.
I’m honestly to the point where when I see a wanna be bully squad I legit just bring lightborn. Then I get to hear them cry at the end of the game when they don’t get their way lol. This game is so sad now tbh. All I do now is camp hook for second stage and tunnel someone out asap otherwise I’m getting mopped. MMR ruined this game forsure.
This is why you dodge lobbies if you see a single flashlight. Errybody quitting killer, so your queue times will be instant while these kids have to sit and wait another half an hour
This was super painful to watch and also the reason why I stopped playing DBD because Nurse is the only killer that doesn't have to deal with this. Hey BHVR if your watching, this is what you nerfed Spirit for and probably going to nerf Artist for next, right?
I have gone against teams like this in the past, absolutely painful. Flashlight saves are cool and all, but that was straight up abuse and I could never play like that as survivor. The way you kept it calm was amazing, I would have raged 100% I brought lighborn the other night and watched a survivor get her dreams crushed. It was absolutely hilarious when I started walking towards her. 😆
When I still played I'd always run lightborn with Bubba along with Enduring. Called it my "unstoppable" Bubba. It's funny cus one game someone actually raged at me and called me a bad killer for using LIGHTBORN of all things! I was like really? We're at that point where now lightborn is OP? Hilarious.
@@ras8472 hahaha you took away their power! 😆 I love lightborn. I think all my killers are going to have it in their build. It makes things less stressful!
@@Kelsoxoxo it actually became a main part of my Nemesis build for a while lol. I just wanted to try it once and then I got addicted to it and has to use it all the time XD. It was funny just walking up to survivors and jaw checking them as they tried to blind me with flashlight lol
I've been doing basement Bubba recently and playing less sweaty in order to to try have fun even using his chainsaw to get around the map. I switch between lightborn and blood warden because I love toxic survivors blinding me only to get hit shortly after as for blood warden I set it up so that they think they've just escaped a chase and are at the exit gates once they realise I stopped chasing them they do the usual teabagging I run up to them nodding my head as they try to dead hard out the trial only to be blocked by blood warden it's priceless how well karma works
@@noxiousunagi4045 lol I've given up trying to win i just play blight with shadowborn only and go for fun chases because my gens always get completed in 4 minutes anyways no point in running any gen defense perks
I said this once and I’ll say it again. With how the game’s balance has been going, we’re going to reach a meta where getting a hook will be literally impossible since all the survivor will run flashlights and all the killers (from nurse all the way to clown) will be nerfed to the ground and become unplayable because “Their was nothing you could do against clown, even without the pinky finger!”
I don't know how you do it everyday tru3, I really don't. Thank fuck you exist though, an actual honest and real streamer in this community is a rare thing, keep highlighting how broken this game is and showing these survivors with egos that their really not skilled, they just get their hands held by BHVR constantly
@@mikeystalks845 Scott jund is a survivor main simp pretending to be a killer player, There is a reason why he doesn't upload much killer content compared to before, because he gets his ass handed to him but he can't publicly acknowledge that because it'd upset his survivor biased community. He's a clown
Thank God I quit, I doubt this game will be fixed. With the other games like VHS being a lot more potential than DbD, Behaviour and the community of their game really ruined the game. Lightborn I seen from the comments would likely would of been the ONLY way to counter this team but even then, a 4 man SWF this high-level with MMR would likely been GG with the imbalancing and current form of the game. This is pretty much old DbD. I don't know if you think this is as bad as old DbD (I would like to hear your opinion personally if you would prefer this or old DbD with god loops and old loops like Cowloop being longer than it is). But yeah, personally, I made the right decision to quit. If I faced this EVERY game, I would likely feel helpless. Survivor isn't that fun to me either. It's too easy or not fun due to the imbalancing and how the game in its true form. Still huge respects trying your best with this game but I feel like playing this game wastes your time recently.
This is the reason why i just quit playing killer, and if for some reason i play i skip until there is no full SWF, is sad because i use to be a main killer
The devs just need to have actual good players give them input and show the flaws of the game rather than taking opinions from survivors who are complaining about a killer they lost to on their first game ever
They've known about it since day one. They just don't care to balance it since for day one transient n00bies that don't know the basics of looping, it is a hard game. So they balance for the literal lowest tier of player
Silly True, game design is supposed to make half the player base hate the game! That's why you should always base your design changes off of a few hours of your own low mmr gameplay!
I have to say you have an insane amount of patience to continue playing this match to the end. I don't always agree with what you say about the game, but I have to respect that you truly do just want whats best for the overall health of the game. I am a survivor main myself and if anything this match shows me more than anything that "Boon: Circle of Healing" needs to be nerfed or completely reworked to have a different effect. I am not sure if SWF needs to be nerfed or should solo survivor and killer be buffed (maybe both) but this match has definitely opened my eyes to just how broken a 4 man SWF with 16 meta perks can be. As a side note, you can actually get flashlight saves through the closed windows of the saloon on the ground floor. (you shouldn't be be able to of course, but I guess its a "bug") Thanks for uploading this I cant imagine you wanting to relive this match again but uploading it is important!
It isn’t going to do much because you’ll probably never rank up playing that way. You’ll just be bullying baby survivors, rather than hindering a team like this.
I do rank up, which is even worse. I’ve been pip’ing each game and I’m doing the bare minimum. Before mmr I was a consistent rank 1 so I’d assume I’d be on high mmr
He knows how to win. He's done so consistently before. In a lobby like this, what you know doesn't matter. Because 4 people abusing exploits is gonna win even if you are using exploits yourself. The numbers alone dictate as so.
That ending dialogue was pretty funny. True: SWF vs. Legion, pfffff SWF: Nobody told you to play legion Dono that requested True to play Legion and build: MonkaS At least we know they weren't stream sniping I guess lmao 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I really want to see devs reactions on this one. I don't believe devs can be out of touch with the game balance that badly. I can imagine them looking at Wraith's kill-rate at newcomers level and then nerfing him, but that is NOT the solution...
Legit I think if the devs saw this game, they would put in a nerf against Legion because Tru3 managed to get 2 hooks. For Legion, getting 2 hooks against a SWF bully squad is just 3 hooks too many.
You were playing legion,you can injure and force them to mend when you see they want to jump into a locker If they jump,just wait till the mend timer is forcing them to jump sooner or later
@@dreetosmoove only 1 did the gens.Thats why the game took 15 minutes. The other 2 waited for the flashy saves lol And that mending time isnt very long
@@gubbs4020dude I see ur comments on other videos u definitely have never touched killer once in your life and if u did u played like shit and quit. Ur the embodiment of basement dwelling entitled survivor main, no one likes players like you and you are also shit. Keep crying about getting camped and tunneled every game
I’ve had people like this a couple of times. I’ve found the only way to “counter” is to just camp the locker, or get one on the ground and just camp them on the ground and let them bleed out. You throw the game but it’s not really much of a game when they do this.
1 thing this game tells me is...nerf artist! Because she's the real problem in dead by daylight! (Kidding but watch this space) also was a requested build on legion. But the "power role" even without the best killer and or perks, shouldn't experience this in a 4vs1 asymmetrical with mmr.
yesssiiiir nerf artist that killer 2 strong 4 me
I always thought in a 4v1 game the power role should be given to the 1 and 4 fight for it but in DBD the killer is fighting for control and sadly for most of roster there fighting and losing hard.
First, this team was so toxic and this is very much what’s wrong with DBD. But I feel like you missed your chance when they body blocked to frenzy all 4 of them. Had they been forced to mend they couldn’t have went in lockers
@@johnwarner4178 they wouldn't have allowed me to get all 4 mending. But good idea, if it worked just once they would have never allowed it to work again so it would have only secured me 1 hook anyway.
Have you checked the information datamined by Swish yet? He found that the game utilizes your highest MMR killer as part of the formula when you queue on ANY killer, even one you haven't played before. For example, a 1900 MMR Spirit playing Legion for the first time still gets thrown into a 1700 MMR lobby even though killers should be starting at 1100 MMR.
The devs stated previously that killers would have their own MMR but failed to mention that your highest killer's MMR still plays a role in the formula. That said, the hard cap is 3800 MMR so if you're bodying SWF at that rank then I'm pretty sure your Legion is going to be way higher than what MMR you're expecting it to be.
Fun game, this was definitely not busted. . . anyway, guys, after careful consideration we're going to Nerf wraith because he's a bit wee op.
What's that, wraith can now semi compete? But what's that I hear? A shit survivor says he's over tuned on twitter and has loads of other entitled survivor mains agreeing? I think we need to nerf him, that shit survivor and group said so! we'll even use all the same terminology they used when mentioning it in the patch notes.
@@TrU3Ta1ent and since wraith has been buffed, we are considering giving survivors all a gun to use against the killer! It’ll have a 20 second stun on the killer, a 3 second cooldown, and you can use it whenever you want!
@@TrU3Ta1ent survivors are extremely entitled 😂
@@TrU3Ta1ent now imagine this crap with Unbreakable baseline...
nah billy still needs a couple nerfs or so, still wayyyyy broken and op. honestly we should make it to where his chainsaw two hits now 😂
i am tilted from just watching this i used to play killer so much now its just painfull either cheaters or this
The most A M A Z I N G thing about these survivors is that some o them get so salt when you manage to kill all of them
These people only write gg in post game chat if everybody escapes. :)
I can guarantee this team rarely loses, so I'd say you're 100% correct with this team lol
Nah they just play around till death
Amazing like true screaming “Stretch Rez sweat squad” over and over because a survivor team shit on him😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@UZSUOL yeah they totally outplayed him in a fun and balanced way while true was tryharding like never before on a op killer
I reeeeeeeeally dont get why people still play killer when survivors and the devs hate you and don't want you to win or have fun
It’s called masochism
This game should be called gen repair simulator. Objectives ? Just repair the gens and escape. No one can stop you from doing that
Because when you get a good challenging game as killer its FUN, and survivors have fun. You feel like a big terrible slasher monster but also they feel like horror film protaganists on the third movie that are trying to fight back. I had a round as legion where it went for 45 minutes as the last two survivors tried desperately to fix gens I was patroling and hiding expertly. then when they finished it was a massive race to the exit gate where only one of them managed to escape by the skin of their teeth and they were so happy we chatted for like 10 minutes about how good we all did.
DBD when you have both sides accept their "roles" and play them to a T is a fun ass game. But when survivors wanna be monsters without being killer....thats when the game turns toxic quickly
@@NameIsDoc *Сringe* (You don't get fun if you be extrimely sweaty at entired game , You just be Mental Exhausted :D (That happend for me every time in that games), and that absolutly destroing your motivation and hope when you anyway losing! :D)
@@NameIsDoc ignore the Matrix50 idiot.
This is what killers can expect if they get good at the game. Fun gameplay. totally balanced. No incentive to get good.
That’s why I reverse boost
There is indeed zero incentive to get good with either role. As (solo) survivor at least half of your games are usually a breeze if you get good teammates even without the benefits of Discord - I mean, it's enough to throw down pallets after running a circle around them once or twice while your team is sitting on gens more often than not, so why would you try to increase your overall skills? As killer getting better, racking up kills and thus raising your MMR is being rewarded with pain and suffering (a.k.a. high MMR survivors as opponents) which is why I started letting the last 1 or 2 survivors finish up the gens and leave even if I previously dominated them to keep my MMR from going up substancially. When you don't play to win what's your motivation to improve? If I only get 1 kill instead of the 2 I'm normally going for, what's the big difference? In fact it's actually a "win" to kill less survivors because that means your MMR goes down and not up - it's just sad really. As a developer you know your game has pretty much screwed the pooch when "losing" as one role is factually more rewarding than doing well... sigh.
Right because tru didn’t make a shit ton of mistakes
@@luminosity6 troll
@@baseballfan4877 where’s the troll? Do you need me to point them all out? Stop watching mediocre gameplay like he’s the best player. Go learn from someone actually good
I've uninstalled DBD. I'm not a high MMR Killer and run into this stuff all the time. Low tier is fun and feels balanced but when you start to get out of it the game starts to fall apart.
When they introduced MMR the balance was much better in my waters but then this kind of Survivor learned how to manipulate their MMR and away we go.
That was painful to watch, I had something similar happen yesterday and it’s frustrating. I may continue to watch, but it’s about time to walk away from this game, the developers don’t care, and there are more games out there to be played. It’s gonna be hilarious when the game inevitably dies do to lack of killers, then Behavior can look in the mirror and know their arrogance quickened the pace.
can't wait till VHS
It won't happen because the majority doesn't play like this.
Yeahhhh I quit the game already and it’s one of the best decisions ever lol. Just watch true for entertainment every now and then
I feel you man. I was killer main and after having continuously rounds where I felt absolutely powerless to deal with survivors, which in many cases were toxic af, I stopped playing. It's too unbalanced and too frustrating, especially for killers. I still enjoy watching dbd content though.
Haven’t played since the Silent Hill chapter and it was a great decision.
This video needs to be shown to everyone in the dbd community, They went to nerf spirit massively, nerf deathsligner, nerf Freddy, nerf Billy, nerf wraith, but THIS is fine?! Where is the counterplay to a swf who can call you out constantly and set traps for guaranteed flashlight saves??? Why do killers need to be nerfed when survivors can loop this good AND jump into a team with strategic coordination and boons with infinite healing?!
I don't know how you went on the stream, I'm switching games after that. I wouldn't have even put up with that, I faking chase and opening the doors myself.
You see that kind of SWF at worst once a month if you're a really big player, when other broken things you said are experienced almost each game. Stop crying omg.
@@MaxHamster94 What's broken? The nerfed killers that apparently had no counterplay? (I'll agree with Spirit to a level, but now her ability is awful) A swf of that level, toxic or not, has no counterplay either. Double standards. Circle of healing can be snuffed and replaced forever with over 100% bonus healing speed. People massively lower their mmr on purpose to face and demolish weak players on both sides.
But you don't see a problem with that? It's a 1v4 game and a lot of people treat it like a 1v1 and get upset when they're caught in 60 seconds. This game could be so much more than it is, and yes this isn't a game you get everyday, but it's a game the "power role" should have a serious challenge, not get tossed around from survivor to survivor who are always backing each other up easily. Discord is the strongest survivor perk and the game should be balanced for it but isn't.
@@MaxHamster94 that’s true, but you’re missing point. The game is imbalance with right hands of people. This shouldn’t happen the killer role should be the power role. 4v1 this video highlights that basic mechanics of the game can be abused
@@MaxHamster94 I found the survivor main
@@MaxHamster94 Lmao, once a month? Found the survivor main.
This may sound too dramatic, but watching you play gives me strength. I'm like "if he can go through this and keep his calm, so can I"
(But it's still just not worth it man)
he is prime example of keeping your cool. Be superior even in loss.
@@akashafofo6939 think he was abit annoyed tbf nothing wrong in admitting it lol
@@knowledge3275 never said he wasn't
@@akashafofo6939 oh right 🤣🤣
@@knowledge3275But he didn't rage quit and is gonna keep on playing
Games like this is why I play both survivor and killer because I couldnt imagine being a killer main and having to go through shit like this daily.
I'm a killer main that turned into a survivor main at this point because I get to stressed out playing killer.
Games like this are why I uninstalled and have enjoyed my life 10x more since lol
@@constipatedsheep6864 same lol. But I still like to watch Tru3, he makes good content.
@@constipatedsheep6864
Honestly its the better option, behavior won't get it in their thick skulls until killers start quitting on a large scale.
@@elijefferson1994 ya, but I'd like it if he ditched this sorry excuse for a game and played something else that is more enjoyable. Cant see a reason why he would keep playing this
This group probably would have rage quit if you had lightborn on.
Lightborn? Wow what a lame killer! Bet he has no life!
Bring Lightborn to a SWF with 4 flashlights?
Your mom most likely didn't love you enough
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Equipping lightborn against a team like this is the best feeling in the world. They get SO mad.
@@TrU3Ta1ent I saw a video by SpooknJukes where it was salty people and this whole team had flashlights so the killer took Lightborn and the streamer got pissed calling him all sorts of obsenities and quit the game simply because he couldnt bling him.
Nah they would've rushed the gens and more to the next game
I raise my hat to you kind sir, I would most likely have thrown a punch into a wall after a game like this, you looked sad more than anything. Good luck next
I saw this as the future of dbd and people didn't listen coz they wanted to lie and pretend that this wasn't the direction we were heading. I'm not sad, just dissapointed at the ignorance around this game.
@@TrU3Ta1ent sadly at this point I think this game is just going to keep heading in that sad direction I started playing around silent Hill I even started getting better at killer but this developer is ignorant and the community theyve created is ignorant.
@@TrU3Ta1ent Just for curiosity, who are the people "not listening"? I feel like the players who are at public communication channels (reddit, twitter) mostly agree on what is broken and not (with many exceptions of course), but ultimately it comes down to developer incompetence (which is a well known fact at this point).
Doesn't matter what the community say or not when clearly it's showing that the developers doesn't listen to the community but rather hang up on their own statistics.
@@shaNk9x Basically those who are Main Survivors, are the ones to blame for not improving the game, and the worst thing is that the developers take them into account, for example, the Main Survivors said that the old trickster was fine when it was the opposite
What the hell are you talking about....I main Survivor and I dont play like this and no one I play with plays like this but I can write a fookin book on how Killers play if you want to learn about that!? My concern is people whining about this experience could cause changes that effects me who plays casually and does not do stretch res comp SWF bully nonsense. I mean I get up to the occasional headon play now and again but once I am done chuckling about how funny it was I find I am getting power tunneled and I am like "yeah I deserve this". There is lot of fun in this game for top MMR killers and there is lots of fun to be had as Top MMR Survivor but Both sides tend to focus only on the narrowest of negative outcomes when wanting balance fixes or the devs to swoop in or just to complain about some toy they liked previously that got taken away.
What actual record, what actual average result do you think you should be able to get as a killer? I think most killers AVERERAGE at least a 2k and non stop piss themselves about how survivor sided the game is lol. I do think that if Survivors just to the damn gens its super in their favor but thats not at all how it actually plays out. Hell you cant exactly accuse the survivors in this game of gen rushing, as they were too busy clowning at the Saloon, so do you want interaction with the survivors or do you want gen rushers?
an immense empathy, is what I feel for you at this moment. The lamentable state of the game is laughable, I personally, after several years being my main game, I am no longer playing, because the truth is that I no longer have fun. The MMR has me at a point, that I need to play at 100% of my concentration, to only get the occasional hang up. And I am not at that moment in my life, in which I need that level of stress, on the contrary, I need a game that I can play to disconnect, not to leave the pc wanting to break the whole house. Peace of mind is what I have now
Damn i respect you kept your composure so well. That team was so cringe.
@Boneits you are probably one of these sweat nolife survivors lol
@Boneits not at all, they got together and purposely calculated a build which doesn't have any counterplay whatsoever so they could abuse it, they couldn't "try to survive" cause people who exploit the game to choose easy mode like this, can't play normally, they don't have the brain capacity to get better. Also it's obvious that they don't do this for fun bc there is no fun in getting a free win while playing less then mediocre, it's given to them and they know it because they went after it
@@onnikukkonenThe way they play yes
this is just the game at this point. best we can hopeful is it just keeps bleeding killer players. i've already seen some survivors complain about 15 minute queues. potentially have a deathgarden situation. everyone wanted to play scavenger, no one wanted to play hunter. as someone else said, i only watch the game now i've only played 3 matches in the past few months, only been logging in for the advent blood points.
This is why I always bring lightborn vs flashlights. Burying your face in walls doesn't even work against flashlights anymore.
I've done that and they all kill themselves on first hook lol
"Its boring" they say 😂
@@123darkpassenger Imagine if Lightborn became meta at high ranks. Can you imagine how fast they'd rework it? *Lightborn now reduces the time you're blinded by 25%. Developer Comment: We've received a lot of feedback from survivors saying they can't bully a killer with Lightborn. To keep the game fun for everyone, we felt it was time to rework this perk.
Yeah about 2 minutes into this game I would have went into the basement and stared at a corner til they left
Jesus. fucking. Christ. that was. I really don't know how you play this game every single day tru3.
Incredible ammount of Resilance. All the respect to you.
Money, mate.
this game is fucking horrible
And people try to say Tru3 has thin skin...
@@BaldorfBreakdowns homie got pissed about a 3man swf with flashlights and was ready to accuse them of cheating because he didn't know about the window. He also willingly stayed around the building and was fuming post-match about the fact that the survivors were using stretched res- which we don't know for certain, btw.
He bitched and moaned the entire match about how unfair swfs were and didn't stop for a moment to think that maybe he was falling for their bait. The random did the gens by themselves unimpeded because he literally never left chase with the swf. Is it difficult to counter bully squad swfs? Absolutely. But let's not pretend the man didn't get so pissed he tunnel visioned the three that wanted his attention and left the other person do gens without resistance.
Yep, sounds like the thickest skin in the world doesn't it?
@@makashika That is what I said after all, that he has the thickest skin of all time, right?
I'd love to have seen your reaction to going against this in a live stream. I'm sure you'd be 100% calm and collected and none of it would bother you at all.
And gotten a 12 hook 4k.
Remeber kids, every time you buy dlc or skins for real money in this game, you support this kind of gameplay.
Oh man, I dont know if I even want to play dbd right now.
The worst thing about these sweat squad swfs is that they try to downplay that they were being try hards and deny they were swfs. It’s utter pathetic when I check their friend lists or go into some of streamers twitch and see that they are 4 man swfs. Most of them don’t even play killers knowing full well that it is much harder and stressful than playing a survivor. They know it yet they act like they are some god gamers when they bring meta perks and 4 man swf.
Meta perks and swfs arent op stop complaining and just say ur bad and can't handle the heat
@@tokyo2637 based on your previous comments, I can tell you are just troll. So I won’t even waste my time arguing lol
@@dogerama792 a troll no im so serious swf is not op and it was a ez gg whats trolling about that
I only watch DBD now. It's just more stressful/frustrating than fun. Even for solo survivor MMR completely has ruined the game. Devs clearly don't and never will care about the game at high level. I wish there was other games with a similar concept to enjoy playing.
There are other games that only just started, try them for a while maybe. Agree completely, its not even fun to watch anymore when you know stuff is broken and devs do nothing about it on survivor side.
Never understood the problem true had with dbd until now. Damn...
Appeasing swf is the worst thing the Devs have done. Could of been a great solo game
Id be fine with the swfs if the game was just balanced but sadly its not.
@@corvette9218 Just encountered a swf with 3 brand new parts on Haddonfield, as a Freddy. I'm a killer devotion 1, 200hrs in game, how I'm supposed to win against them? With the House of Pain too on that map. I can't even try killers or fun perks because it's always like that! I'm not that bad as a killer but against THESE swf (with the convenient map for them) I can't win
Yep, players like this kept crying about killers like spirit because they couldn't do shit like this to her because she's "too op". its so annoying when you outplay them but are saved by bullshit mechanics
i wish there was a 1v1 mode
Leave this game while you can. As much as passion as you can have it ain’t gonna make any difference as to what you want done that’ll make it fun and fresh. These new chapters they’re doing ain’t even enough for me to even consider the possibility of playing the game again.
He has to because it’s his job. No DBD, no paycheck. He’s pretty much stuck unless he finds viewers who want to see games that aren’t DBD.
@@glibglob8755 which if your an actual fan I have done many times over.
It's truly upsetting because this game has always had massive potential but if the Devs continue to not give a shit about how miserable this game is to play as killer I truly do hope it fails. Killers need to go on strike or some shit lol.
@@TrU3Ta1ent I’m a fan of you, not DBD, not anymore anyway. And your main game is DBD. Your channel is a DBD channel.
@@TrU3Ta1ent I've only just started watching your stream a few months back, 100% if you've had enough of DBD I'd and many others would glady watch you play something else until DBD gets some balance.
I wish this video went viral or instigated something. It's sad that this is allowed but the devs won't do shit as long as the player base is high and their add-ons are selling. Sadly, the best way to get the devs to listen is probably to stop playing
They don't respect the minority of their customers, the killers.
Perfect commentary, i think the same thing
A lot of players, who also happen to mostly or only play survivor, love that the game is like this. They get to hop on DBD with their buddies and exert minimal effort compared to most of the killers they face, even if the killer player is good, and especially so if the killer is playing a non meta killer, and they reap all the benefits of the game being balanced around average/low skill players. They love that the game is terribly balanced because it benefits them. You won't see the majority of these people on MK, CSGO or really any other PvP game that takes actual skill and has balance.
at 3:14, flashlight beam can pass through that specific window. I thought they fixed that bug. I used to flashlight save people through that window.
I uploaded this clip to show you what I mean. ruclips.net/video/nR_1h4yWG4s/видео.html
that is shocking
Yeah i noticed later on.
@@sjokonge I knew about that window 7 months ago, and I thought they've fixed it by now because they've disabled this map once or twice but I guess they ignored it.
it's not a bug, it's a **fEaTuRe**
Behavior is killing their game. I used to mostly play killer and some survivor and now I only play survivor because this is what the game is like as killer. It's so stressful and not worth the time or the effort. So good job behavior. Amazing concept and such potential in this game but it's so wasted by a group of idiot devs.
i agree i use to play alot of killer now i mostly play survivor cause its too ez with the perks they have now
boons aren't game changing. devs even said so... 😂
This is why I run lightborn. It's especially nice with Bubba. I love watching them fall apart as soon as they realize they can't blind me.
It's a simple spell but quite unbreakable - Doctore Strange 2018
After years with this game I finally had to drop it because it just became way too stressful to deal with anymore. I still watch gameplay from my favorite content creators and keep up with the game, but I just can't handle playing the game myself anymore with swfs being the only thing playing killer has to offer and a sudden rise of hackers with MMR. but I felt the need to comment because now just watching the game has become painful, especially this match. Everything you had to say about the game is true, and you aren't afraid to say things that other creators try not to say, and that's why I love your content. I don't know how you do it, but I'm glad you still enjoy the game, and I hope you continue to do what you seem to love doing.
I'm pretty sure most gaming companies would describe this as an exploit, essentially using a broken game design to gain an unfair advantage. This survivor community is already one of the saltiest I've ever seen, just sad. Game is dead without killers maybe salty survivors should be glad for some opposition and be thankful anyone is even willing to play a bunch of douchebags
Survivors who play like the ones at the first game can be really annoying to play against, but normally you get a free win because they aren't doing the objective much. These players were incredibly good though, so they are an anomaly.
And as True keeps saying there is no counter-play to the locker-to-flashlight-save play, I mostly agree but also consider the fact that flashlights aren't unlimited. Could also have used Lightborn if you saw in the lobby they brought a lot of flashlights.
The play would be to zone other survivors away from those lockers, but these survivors were incredibly skilled. Essentially I would say the problem comes down to really good survivors with really good perks, against a mediocre killer (the character, not the player) and "not the best" perks. It's a problem of game balacing on multiple factors, as well as a unique map-design "flaw".
I also disagree that SWF is broken. It is absolutely way stronger than 4 solo-queues, but essentially it's not game breaking. It should come down to the ranking system evaluating them as better players, as well as rating them even higher when they are premades due to the likelihood of them being on communications / playing around each other.
And finally, it doesn't help that the difference between the killer balancing are so high. If you are the best Nurse in the world, and the game gives you a survivor team accordingly, but you happen to be playing a WAY worse killer this game, you are automatically at a huge disadvantage. Then you factor in RNG elements like the map...
@@shaNk9x They select flashlight the last moment which is at six seconds before the game locks any actions. Furthermore, your opinion of the mmr ranking them higher just because they are SWFs is wrong. No matter how good the killer is, four people with communication and skill can bully them. Do not ignore the problem just because it suits your needs. Be a healthy person.
That particular corner locker with the drop right next to it is 101% without ANY argument an exploit, and that's why they heavily abused it.
You literally CANNOT react to it.
The same can be said for Facecamping and Tunneling, but Ig it's only bad when Survivor's do it 🙄
@@Mimi._.Haruno_ exactly. Soany entitled killers in this comment section lol
The flashlight throu the miniscule space in the window was meant to be fixed. So basically those guys just exploited a bug, you should've reported them.
BTW on high ranks as soon I see a flashlight I just go with Franklin's. Just to piss them off.
Holy fuck this was infuriating to watch. I remember when True would get dope ass 4Ks with Legion. It wasn't a total stomp. It was a fair game on both sides. He didn't necessarily have to camp or tunnel. This is especially painful to me because I absolutely love Legion. They're one of my favorite killers and because of the state of the game and people like this, they're nigh utterly useless.
So what were survivors suppose to do? Intentionally play bad? Not use the windows and vaults and items just so they can give the killer a pity hook? Not go for flashlight saves when they know how to do it legit? Boohoo you had 1 or 2 games where you were not the power role as killer...big fucking deal...eat the L and move on to the next match or another game. The game is asymetrical its 4 v 1 by design! You knew what you singed up for when you entered the community. SWF is one of its biggest selling points and it SHOULD BE. A video game is for fun not for ultra competitive no life solo ques who care about results and outcomes in a video game like their life depends on them .if you can't separate fun from competitive, thats a you problem. Go outside, touch some grass. But no, instead you are so obsessed over the results and outcomes of dbd matches, to the point where you can't sleep at night untill you vent your frustration on twitter at 12 midnight, HOURS after said match ended. Call me a loser, call me anything you want, even ignore me, but atleast i can sleep at night with even 0 kills as killers just as well as if i got 4 kills. My life does not revolve around the end results or expirience i get from a videogame.
@@WiseCity Here take this -> L
@@WiseCity Holy God, I'm not reading all that.
@@tappmain8858 i'm sure your queen tru3ta1ent appreciates your loyalty. My bad, i didn't know you brainless drones treat the commentary section like a popularity contest. I'll take the L and the entire alphabet any day over being a whiney bitch like your hero or a brainless white knight like you. Cheers mate.
@@hilariouslookinggen1growli846 you probably couldn't read it even if you wanted to, seeing as that was the best you could come up with and looking at how you obey tru3 without using your own judgement. Cheers mate
Thats why i quit playing DbD. I play on the xbox. And what I noticed. Since we started crossplay, the number of cheaters has increased unbelievably.
Before crossplay there was absolutely no cheaters on the console. Now felt in every 3 game something is wrong.
Imagine playing with a controller against those people.... ZERO Chance.
Turn off crossplay then.
@@anim3z4u takes forever to find a game though
One of the biggest things I keep noticing you doing is not using the gap in the outer second floor of the saloon to cut off a Survivor. For example, at 11:26 to 11:28, you could have instead simply went to that gap on your left and dropped down to cut off the Survivor or force them to go in a direction you wanted to go. Instead, you chose to keep going the same way the entire match.
This might have been a mistake as you're actually going in the direction the Survivors want YOU to go, rather than forcing them to go the direction you want THEM to go. Simply jumping down from that area would have been something to mindgame them since you would've already conditioned them to go that direction on a constant.
Zoning isn't something you'll find on this channel.
Either way he was still getting flashlight saved lol 😂
Tru3 never likes to see that he mades mistakes and blames it on several things other than himself. Even with a debuff of time, those extra 50secs aren't gonna do shit lmao
Also he’s legion commit to the person with mend so they can’t stay in the locker, I noticed that too his pathing at main was very Hold W I’m not saying that there was counterplay but lightborn, franklins, deep wound
I remember I baited a locker save with double lockers using Iron maiden once potato neas gotta love em lol
@@winghealer5120 fair point but you can’t change mid game
When I see 4 torches in the lobby I usually just slap Lightborn on. Don't need that stress in my life
Unfortunately many swf switch last moment
@@georgewashington9445 Mmm very true
@@georgewashington9445 also what makes swf so frustrating and, like the title says, what's wrong with DBD. They'll act blasé and say that they're just trying to have innocent fun and that they aren't trying to be toxic, but they intentionally switch to flashlights before the timer is out and do other mind game stuff like that which is clearly intentional😂
@@JordanHance how the hell what they doing is toxic
ffs learn what the word mean before using it
He doesn’t even have proof they’re using stretched res but keeps waffling about it anyway
Watching that was brutal… like the dude flash lighting you against the wall and then hopping in lockers to get a guaranteed flashlight save… this would be incredibly annoying to deal with
Main reasons I refuse to play at all
Survivors are getting stronger Why? The killer has become too difficult to play in
There is no balance in the game between survivor and killer
1- They can delete your features
2- 16 advantages vs 4 and they can delete them
3- They can blow you up with light bombs
4- They can make booby traps
5- They can hit you with platforms
6- They have a flashlight that can blind you
7- Generator skills are very easy
8- There is no bleeding after the survivor is killed, and the survivors can help without first aid
9- They have a hole in the operating room if the last survivor is left without a generator. If the pit door is locked, they can escape the gates to get out
10- They have a key that can escape after 3 generators
There are chests and windows in the map!! The survivor moves fast and dodges
I don't know why all this support for the survivors??
How can you play all this against you!?
There are many hackers where is your protection!?
It blows my mind how the devs intentionally didn't add comms to the game, yet don't see an issue with swfs
Shoutouts to the comments not being shown here. That was absolutely hilarious to watch lmao
I honestly was laughing out loud throughout this 😂
"aM I nOt aLloWeD tO hAvE fUn aNd gAmE wiTh mY fRiEnDs???"
We have heard your thoughts about 4 man’s SWFs and as a result, we have decided to nerf the Pig
The devs don't care about this game. All they care about is putting out paid DLC to make money as fast as they can before the game finally dies.
THE MONTH SWF came out I said this shit would happen. Everyone kept saying "dude we just want to play our games with our friends". Fast forward 5 fucking years and this is what we have.
However, you get 4 solo's in the same match together and killers absolutely fucking dominate almost every single time. Its not even close. The dichotomy this game exhibits right now is so disgusting.
Even 4 EFFICIENT solos are almost impossible to deal with. Gens go just as quick as a 4 man.
omg this match looks so stressful that i would just quit , like i said one time in the past Tru3, the killers in this game are just entertainers doing a free job for the devs, some of us have lives and we don't want to deal with stressful things like this and the devs fail to understand this fact.
This is a very abusive swf and they are definitely exploiting animation locks, but to say there is no "counter-play" to that is incorrect. With the plethora of perks there are in this game, not every build is meant to dominate every match. Lightborn and Franklin's are perfect counter-plays to this.
@CPTALCATRAZ96IT am I wrong? If so please do tell. All I'm saying is yes swf is wrong with the game, especially ones like this. But to say there is no counter-play is incorrect
@@ssscorpius2011 He was doing a viewer build. There was no way to counter it in that game. You can’t slug because they’ll get him up again. You can’t frenzy that’s just a waste. How else was he suppose to combat this with those perks and killer?
Running a perk isn't coutnerplay. Counterplay is playing a specific way to counter a strategy/killer. Equipping light born or franklins to get rid of flash saves isnt counterplay
Everyone in the comments keep mentioning lightborn when you see them all 4 have flashlights in the pre game lobby but you guys forget about the possibility that they could exploit the feature of last second swapping survivors so he couldn't really prepare for it anyways if they did that. The killer is also given 0 indication of whether or not the survivors are queued together so there really just isn't a way around this stupid situation.
If I was playing I would've just went into a corner and stared at it, show them how fun it is to go against a team like that.
That'd be wise, it's not like I can't do other things instead.
Same. Thank God I have a life outside of DBD unlike these guys, so going AFK for 10 minutes is fine to me.
@@joaolima9622 ppl don't understand how much fun doing this 🤣🤣
This is probably why I like to watch VHS now. Killer/Survivors there just seem much funner to watch and look like their all having some form of fun where in DbD higher level gameplay devolves into just bullying
VHS?
I went against this so many times aswell. I respect how you kept playing, if I get those I usually go and get a coffee lr smthg and go to the next round cause why playing? Its not unlikely you win, its impossible. With some killers at least.
Basically you have a chance if you play nurse and play her perfectly
@@brodiemunro1156 nurse has such slow base-movement you’d probably never get a hook against this team with all of their body blocks.
Blight would've been a good choice
@@IvIRavenIxI nurse can blink
@@brodiemunro1156 nurse or an instadown killer to prevent the bodyblocks
I love how at the end of the game he says "nobody told you to play legion". So its pretty much saying that you can only play meta killers or dont bother playing.
Well using a viewer build + having a good team would cause this issue. Yet playing certain killers gives your certain abilities. You know what will work and what will not playing top tier. Not all killers can get 4K versus top teams or people who know how to play the game. Even with Meta killers True has manage to escape either two or atleast himself. You play the killer of your choice and get good and can not win them all. So saying this is literally like saying yeah I feel a 9mm pistol should beat a 50. cal.
@@JaysGamingAdventuresPCVRAIRSOF I don't like the parallel you've made. You can change the 9mm pistol whenever you want if it doesn't work, meanwhile you can't swap Legion for Nurse within a same game to adapt to the people you play against. What you're saying is that it's fine that once you've reached a certain MMR, that you can't play a character anymore because it's bad. You should always have a chance to win even against the higher level players, that's just balance issues if you can't.
u do realize that true mention legion that's why they said that
i mean u can't be that stupid to realize that
Some food for thought Tru3, legion specifically counters that gameplay style. Deep Wound downs survivors in lockers. You had one abort the locker cause they was about to go down. You just have to force them to stay inside.
And then he picks up the survivor and gets blinded
@@Ssscrubbb Don’t pick up, leave them slugged. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes
@@jedimario8860 he did slug someone and they got picked up while he was chasing someone else
Honestly, when I see at least 2 flashlights in the lobby, I bring lightborn. It works really well. Ofc you lose 1 perk slot but this is worth
Voice comms break the game as designed.
That's all that needs to be stated.
Along with asking BHVR what they are doing about it?
Absolutely nothing is the answer to your question
Ah, I love the fact that you can get blinded through that clearly closed window at around 3:30. Definitely necessary and not stupid.
True almost made it a full minute without humming. Impressive.
It is because of this type of thing that there are no killers and consequently, the survivor ranks take longer, this game disgusts me so much that I am almost a month old without playing it
Honestly why I’m looking forward to VHS. The back and forth looks so fun, high level gameplay is so back and forth also. Watching this video solidifys why I hate dbd now
Vhs is another dead on arrival dbd clone like the other 10 that came out.
@@leftismtoday6072 the fact you think it’s a dbd clone shows you know nothing about the game 🤣
@@1987marmitegame is dead clown LOL
The biggest problem of the game has always been map balance. Its simply mindblowing how a lot of games are literally decided by which map you rolled with which killer. I dont understand why maps like Lerys or Red forest are still in the game and also how god windows that make infinites have not been addressed after so many years.
At the end when they were dropping the flashlights I feel they were doing that more to be toxic, as in a ez gg type of way
I bet they DC when a killer brings Franklin's and lightborn
I mean I don't blame them! Franklin's and lightborn are so lame and boooooring!
no they just go down on pallets instead and have two other people gen rushing in the meantime
I had a game almost exactly like this playing as Mikey Myers on Ormond, it was so infuriating
Same with me. Played as Myers on Badham map against Finnish swf. They went for "fun" locker plays in stupidly good MB(Head on/Quick & Quiet/DS/IronWill). At the end I got them all but damage was done. It was painfull. And I dont even close to the pro level like Tru3. I am just a casual that hop in DBD in the evening...
i had a game on ormond aswell but i was playing nurse
Just because certain locker save spots are bullshit doesn't mean certain killers who got nerfed weren't problems. The rest of the issues exemplified was just Legion getting rolled by DDS Main: So good survivors running a weak killer with no chase abilities on a main building that should probably be nerfed. However double locker saves, and lockers in very strong main buildings like DDS Main (especially that one where they could drop down) are definitely problematic. Again, just because one side has bullshit, doesn't make other bullshit fine. BHVR targeting Killer bullshit probably comes down to it being complained more about, which isn't fair either tho, but just how it is.
I’m honestly to the point where when I see a wanna be bully squad I legit just bring lightborn. Then I get to hear them cry at the end of the game when they don’t get their way lol. This game is so sad now tbh. All I do now is camp hook for second stage and tunnel someone out asap otherwise I’m getting mopped. MMR ruined this game forsure.
Incoming Lightborn nerf lol
@@DoctorCataclysm Scott Jund new video is about Lightborn lmaooo. He's a bish
@@swampraider3488 lmao
@@DoctorCataclysm We both know why he made that video, am I right? Damn I despise Scott, Ayrun and all of those douchebags
@@swampraider3488 What did he say about lightborn?
This is why you dodge lobbies if you see a single flashlight. Errybody quitting killer, so your queue times will be instant while these kids have to sit and wait another half an hour
Auto games you at about 4-7 minutes.
Unless you’re Uber MMR.
This was super painful to watch and also the reason why I stopped playing DBD because Nurse is the only killer that doesn't have to deal with this.
Hey BHVR if your watching, this is what you nerfed Spirit for and probably going to nerf Artist for next, right?
Loved watching this. Tru3 getting absolutely BODIED and crying the whole time. More, please!
more like people exploting the shite game mechanics dummy
he's like the wings of redemption of dead by daylight minus the weight.
You must have been one of the 4 man swf
@@enriquenieto5239 Nope, just a bystander
You have problems
I have gone against teams like this in the past, absolutely painful. Flashlight saves are cool and all, but that was straight up abuse and I could never play like that as survivor. The way you kept it calm was amazing, I would have raged 100%
I brought lighborn the other night and watched a survivor get her dreams crushed. It was absolutely hilarious when I started walking towards her. 😆
When I still played I'd always run lightborn with Bubba along with Enduring. Called it my "unstoppable" Bubba. It's funny cus one game someone actually raged at me and called me a bad killer for using LIGHTBORN of all things! I was like really? We're at that point where now lightborn is OP? Hilarious.
@@ras8472 hahaha you took away their power! 😆 I love lightborn. I think all my killers are going to have it in their build. It makes things less stressful!
@@Kelsoxoxo it actually became a main part of my Nemesis build for a while lol. I just wanted to try it once and then I got addicted to it and has to use it all the time XD. It was funny just walking up to survivors and jaw checking them as they tried to blind me with flashlight lol
I've been doing basement Bubba recently and playing less sweaty in order to to try have fun even using his chainsaw to get around the map.
I switch between lightborn and blood warden because I love toxic survivors blinding me only to get hit shortly after as for blood warden I set it up so that they think they've just escaped a chase and are at the exit gates once they realise I stopped chasing them they do the usual teabagging I run up to them nodding my head as they try to dead hard out the trial only to be blocked by blood warden it's priceless how well karma works
@@noxiousunagi4045 lol I've given up trying to win i just play blight with shadowborn only and go for fun chases because my gens always get completed in 4 minutes anyways no point in running any gen defense perks
I said this once and I’ll say it again. With how the game’s balance has been going, we’re going to reach a meta where getting a hook will be literally impossible since all the survivor will run flashlights and all the killers (from nurse all the way to clown) will be nerfed to the ground and become unplayable because “Their was nothing you could do against clown, even without the pinky finger!”
I don't know how you do it everyday tru3, I really don't. Thank fuck you exist though, an actual honest and real streamer in this community is a rare thing, keep highlighting how broken this game is and showing these survivors with egos that their really not skilled, they just get their hands held by BHVR constantly
As much as he complains he’s right with the state of this game 😂😂
I mean he's right pretty much every time
@@fusion6497 yea he is Scott jund is just annoying af 🤣 “dbd balanced at high level” stfu 🤣
@@mikeystalks845
Scott jund is a survivor main simp pretending to be a killer player,
There is a reason why he doesn't upload much killer content compared to before, because he gets his ass handed to him but he can't publicly acknowledge that because it'd upset his survivor biased community.
He's a clown
@@123darkpassenger I fuckin hate him lmao he’s always like dbd is balanced only thing I agree with him is that badham id trash
@@mikeystalks845
Anyone with 2 braincells knows badham is trash, I give him no credit for that lol
Thank God I quit, I doubt this game will be fixed. With the other games like VHS being a lot more potential than DbD, Behaviour and the community of their game really ruined the game. Lightborn I seen from the comments would likely would of been the ONLY way to counter this team but even then, a 4 man SWF this high-level with MMR would likely been GG with the imbalancing and current form of the game. This is pretty much old DbD. I don't know if you think this is as bad as old DbD (I would like to hear your opinion personally if you would prefer this or old DbD with god loops and old loops like Cowloop being longer than it is). But yeah, personally, I made the right decision to quit. If I faced this EVERY game, I would likely feel helpless. Survivor isn't that fun to me either. It's too easy or not fun due to the imbalancing and how the game in its true form. Still huge respects trying your best with this game but I feel like playing this game wastes your time recently.
I am 1 year dbd free now. I pick up my guitar now instead. Fuck this game.
@@suminshizzles6951 I quit DBD years ago. Spend all the time I freed up banging my girlfriend now, no regrets
Moment I see someone get into that particular locker I dc I’m not even ashamed they don’t deserve the attention
Sorry but I have to side with survivors on this one , That survivor who typed “Gaming Chairs” was Right ! ✨
Gaming Chairs !
This is the reason why i just quit playing killer, and if for some reason i play i skip until there is no full SWF, is sad because i use to be a main killer
The devs just need to have actual good players give them input and show the flaws of the game rather than taking opinions from survivors who are complaining about a killer they lost to on their first game ever
Marth88 tried that years ago and the devs ignored everything he said.
The devs don't give a shit. They can't hear you over the sound of a new Feng cosmetic dropping.
They've known about it since day one. They just don't care to balance it since for day one transient n00bies that don't know the basics of looping, it is a hard game. So they balance for the literal lowest tier of player
Silly True, game design is supposed to make half the player base hate the game! That's why you should always base your design changes off of a few hours of your own low mmr gameplay!
Not going to lie, loved watching this.
I wonder why basement leatherface is so common after games like this. We will never know
I hope the Devs see this and realize survivors need to be nerfed. I’m a survivor main too and they are definitely OP
We have listened to the community and realized our mistake, in return we will be nerfing the hillbilly
"no one told you to play legion" I mean I think he said it was a requested build, so yeah they kinda did lol. no one plays legion, willingly lmao
It also shows their mentality like their saying “should’ve played nurse0
I have to say you have an insane amount of patience to continue playing this match to the end.
I don't always agree with what you say about the game, but I have to respect that you truly do just want whats best for the overall health of the game.
I am a survivor main myself and if anything this match shows me more than anything that "Boon: Circle of Healing" needs to be nerfed or completely reworked to have a different effect. I am not sure if SWF needs to be nerfed or should solo survivor and killer be buffed (maybe both) but this match has definitely opened my eyes to just how broken a 4 man SWF with 16 meta perks can be.
As a side note, you can actually get flashlight saves through the closed windows of the saloon on the ground floor. (you shouldn't be be able to of course, but I guess its a "bug")
Thanks for uploading this I cant imagine you wanting to relive this match again but uploading it is important!
I think ik you. I was a nurse the other night with you and a mikaela we kept doing chases
Started playing dbd again today, my goal as a survivor now is to fuck over every team I play with and honestly I’m loving every second of it.
Awesome 😎
It isn’t going to do much because you’ll probably never rank up playing that way. You’ll just be bullying baby survivors, rather than hindering a team like this.
I do rank up, which is even worse. I’ve been pip’ing each game and I’m doing the bare minimum. Before mmr I was a consistent rank 1 so I’d assume I’d be on high mmr
@@haff1088 mmr and rank aren't the same. Be sure to survive your matches if you want the mmr boost.
🤡🤡🤡
If this isn't broken i don't know what is
To win this, turn it into a slug and camp simulator. STBFL is mandatory at high level for this reason.
He knows how to win. He's done so consistently before. In a lobby like this, what you know doesn't matter. Because 4 people abusing exploits is gonna win even if you are using exploits yourself. The numbers alone dictate as so.
That ending dialogue was pretty funny.
True: SWF vs. Legion, pfffff
SWF: Nobody told you to play legion
Dono that requested True to play Legion and build: MonkaS
At least we know they weren't stream sniping I guess lmao 🤣🤣🤣🤣
But do we really?
I hate this map as killer.
I like how small it is but yeah that main building is awful
I really want to see devs reactions on this one.
I don't believe devs can be out of touch with the game balance that badly. I can imagine them looking at Wraith's kill-rate at newcomers level and then nerfing him, but that is NOT the solution...
Legit I think if the devs saw this game, they would put in a nerf against Legion because Tru3 managed to get 2 hooks. For Legion, getting 2 hooks against a SWF bully squad is just 3 hooks too many.
You were playing legion,you can injure and force them to mend when you see they want to jump into a locker
If they jump,just wait till the mend timer is forcing them to jump sooner or later
Wait for 1 person while 3 others do gens ?
@@dreetosmoove only 1 did the gens.Thats why the game took 15 minutes.
The other 2 waited for the flashy saves lol
And that mending time isnt very long
And then flashlight save or bodyblocks. No even that strat can break a team like that
"They called me a madman and what I predicted came to pass"
My blood was boiling watching this 😡😡🤬🤬
lmao, cry 😢😂😂🤡
@@gubbs4020dude I see ur comments on other videos u definitely have never touched killer once in your life and if u did u played like shit and quit. Ur the embodiment of basement dwelling entitled survivor main, no one likes players like you and you are also shit. Keep crying about getting camped and tunneled every game
Watching this after it’s been up for 2 years does not make me miss these days
But hey let's nerf pig, deathslinger, spirit, wraith!
I’ve had people like this a couple of times. I’ve found the only way to “counter” is to just camp the locker, or get one on the ground and just camp them on the ground and let them bleed out. You throw the game but it’s not really much of a game when they do this.